[00:00:00] Everyone I've done has value you know. It's important that's part of me, and it doesn't matter when I did it. You know, if you have an achievement and you get an award as you age, they don't disappear because you get older or you do different things. They're still part of you and it's still part of your value, and so you're not.

So it's all those ingredients that make up who you are and that is your value. And I had really forgotten about that. You know, one of the things, you know, go back and list all your accomplishments. I'm like, [00:01:00] what? You know, I'm like, well, you know, that happened so long ago. But one of the things is that the value in doing that is that you remember who you are.

Because if you don't stand in those roles where you're underemployed, under-resourced, you know, overeducated, and you attach yourself because the societal norms say what you do is who you are. And so you have to break yourself from that and realize that the only race you're running and the only person you're competing against is yourself.

So it doesn't really matter what anyone else is doing, cause you've got your race and your value and you're moving ahead. You know what you have to bring to the table is you and what someone else has to bring to the table is them. But you know, they're not mutually inclusive.

[00:02:00] Welcome everyone to While She's winning. I am your host, Christy Rutherford, and today we have the amazing, phenomenal, brilliant, talented, super nerdy.

Super duper, nerdy Vincine Brown. Vincine, you ready? Vincine.

I'm ready.

All right. Vincine is a neurodiversity architect. She bridges the success gap for neuro divergent minds through intellect, aptitude, and mastery. She's a [00:03:00] board member, the W I C T network, Southeast Alumni Board Chair, diversity, equity, inclusion.

Let's see, you got a lot. It's good though. Ms. Dean is committed to making sure African American youth and youth on the autism spectrum are aware of opportunities in the science and technology field. She is the founder and the chief Neurodiversity. Architect. Of IAM10 neurodivergent minds. Bringing, is it bridging or bringing the success gap?

Which one you?

It's bridging.

Bridging the success gap for neuro mind, neuro divergent minds through intellect, aptitude mastery. All right then Vincine has been featured in Applause Magazine, Cincinnati Inquiry, and other media Foot work in stem. She has a lifetime member of the National Technical Association.

President and Marita of the Cincinnati chapter, she has been recognized by [00:04:00] National Leadership for Success. She gives back to her alumni board as a chair of Diversity and Equity Inclusion, and is Advisory Board member of the History of Enslaved People Project of Alma Mater in Washington DC. She is a native of Washington DC a 2006 scholar of the Mid-Atlantic Health leadership Institute at John Hopkins University School of Public Health.

She created additional nutritional tool kit to assist in the decrease of childhood obesity. She has a bachelor's degree in national sciences thesis, completed a microbiology with a minor in marketing from Xavier, H B C U. She's an ordained minister.

I ain't know you as an ordained minister, Vincine. Cause you know what because?

We forgive you,

The Lord Forgive with me. All right. Vincine got a lot. We'll be here all day. She's the proud mom of three college graduates, a daughter and two [00:05:00] sons who are her motivations for modeling a called out life. Welcome, Vincine.

Thank you, Christy.

All right, so we got Simon on here. Jennifer, I think that this right here, you know, we told Amanda about her LinkedIn permissions. But anyway. All right. So Vincine.

Yes

Welcome to why she's winning. You're a woman who is winning. I am so excited to have you here cause you know it was a long, long row.

Yes, it was .Well worth it, but long.

Long, long journey to set you free. So Vincine, what was going on when you were like, you know what? I need to do something different with my life, and I'm ready to take a different action. What was going on with you?

You [00:06:00] know, I felt like I was going around circles and I needed to do something different, but I didn't exactly know how to get unstuck and I thought I needed to do all this different, all these different things.

You know, you have to collect all these accolades, you know, go back, get more education. You know, people say, oh, well go get your MBA, you know, so I signed up and for MBA program, you know, and then they said, well I didn't know you were that smart. I was like, what? What is that about? You know? And, but I was still in the same spot.

So even though I had working on another degree, I still wasn't getting out of that hole. I still had all this baggage. And so when I entered the program, I was weighed, weighed, weighed down, and for the first time in [00:07:00] my life I was having high blood pressure. I had never had high blood pressure, and I made stroke level high blood pressure, and I was like, this is serious.

So entering the program I was able to make a mind. You know, and also.

Okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Well, cause I wanna walk you through the journey. I don't want you to tell the whole thing cause I see it. You know look let me tell you also. Listen to me, okay.

The science queen of the science machine. People who are brilliant don't like open-ended questions. You know, I ain't sent her the questions, so she read it. Miss Vincine was gonna read all her script and that was gonna be it folks. Miss Vincine, I ain't come here and be playing with you, Christy. You play too much.[00:08:00] But we gonna make her a little bit uncomfortable.

So Miss, Vincine, are you okay with being uncomfortable today and outside of your comfort zone, young lady?

Yes, I am. Yes, I am.

Hey, I witness, I had to stop on moment to you. Brilliant people, scientists. Oh, don't ask us. Oh she wanted to know. I was like, wait I mean, I can send you the questions. I wasn't gonna ask you none of 'em. So that's pointless . Okay, so.

Right.

You had stroke level, high blood pressure. I could tell that I'm real cute in my white shirt.

I should wear white more often. Back to it. Anyway you look awesome as well, young lady.

Thank you.

So you are at stroke level high blood pressure, right?

Yeah.

And you got the degree and you were still stuck, [00:09:00] and you were aware that you had a lot of baggage, that you were dragging around.

Right.

So you actually did two years ago? I don't even know when it was last year. I did a three day event.

Correct.

And then we did the masterclass, and people who were like, oh, Christy, I'll join your next one. You know, I did that twice. I said, we ain't never doing that again.

Right.

Actually, I said I gonna never do it again after the first one. But I decided to do a second one just to collect the data, and never do it again. So what did you learn about yourself? I would say, cause even in the three days, just the precursor for the vision final math class. What did you learn?

Or I would say what was most shocking initially, cause I'm gonna walk you through the, your journey. What was most shocking initially? When you started to look in the mirror?

Well, I think the most shocking thing was you asked us a question and I was, you know, I'm thinking that, yeah.

I'm that Gucci bag and the [00:10:00] Marshall's apartment store, and then you just like, crush my spirit. You're like, what's a Gucci bag at a Marshall apartment store? You know and so it was about value and self-worth. And so then I began to kind of like, that's pretty deep, because, you know what you do is not who you are.

And a lot of times I think especially for black women who are professional, we attach what we do to who we are and. , clearly I was in a job that I didn't like. So if I attached that too who I was, then my level of self-esteem is self-worth was low. And so I wanted to, I was like, well, no, I gotta change this, I gotta change this, you know?

Asking for help and you know, is the first [00:11:00] step. Of, freedom and being, you know, very independent. You know, I get this, I can do this by myself, but I realized that I could not do it by myself. And I think that's really the beauty is being part of division Finders Masterclass is the community and the support and the connections.

All right, let's back up a little bit. You talking about how crush your spirit.

I jumped on whatever shell was stopping you and whatever lies that you had, the cocoon of the lies that you built around yourself was

Right, right.

Wake you open and drag you outta there. That's pretty much what happened. So I just want to be clear. For the saints that's on the live NC who don't really know me, I ain't crushed that spirit.

I set her free. I wanna crush the cocoon of lies that she had weaved around herself to tell [00:12:00] herself that she wasn't great. Let's be clear. So.

That's true. That's true, that's true.

Yeah. You like, because, go ahead. No, go ahead.

I mean, yeah, you did what in terms you like, you know, bust that shell or that secure box that I had around myself.

And so you just like, here cut it open and say, okay, now you're exposed. Let's deal with it. And so I was like, I don't know if I wanna do that. I don't know, and do that, you know? Then I had to stay after class for a to get a special tutorial session. I'm like, what is this?

You had, you told me it was a one day minister, that after class session might have went a little better.

Lord, please forgive me for what I'm about to do Vincine. You know you made me that my heart is pure as I drag her through the mud? So let's talk about it, right? Cause you're, how, [00:13:00] what's, are you willing to tell your age? On the line?

Sure. You know. Age was a number of mine is unlisted, but I'll share it.

How mature are you in these streets?

62.

Okay. So, and I ask you that right? Miss Vincine, for a question I mean for a reason because.

Right.

A lot of you know women who are well seasoned, like the delicious fried chicken at crisp atnd chick fillet on both sides. You well seasoned on both sides. You, may think that I'm stuck this way and I can't completely change my life.

Right.

And a lot of women don't even attempt or try to. Our internet is acting up, so if I'm fuzzy, it's my internet job. I'm sorry, we gonna get it in order. But a lot of women die. You know, we have women not in their forties and fifties, but they think that I'm [00:14:00] 60, 61, 62, I'm stuck and I can't change and I can't completely, and when I say completely have a completely different quality of life. And so I'm happy that you're here. I'm happy that you shared how mature you were. Even though age's is really nothing but the number, but you know, I've met 20 year olds, who have different quality of lives than I do. And the life that I live today is better than when I was living in my twenties, my late twenties, and my thirds.

So let's talk about, You said there was a box and a story that you created around your stuff self. There's a story of, and a box of safety, of really playing small that you had life circumstances created.

Correct.

And then I come over there, drill it open, I would say punch it open, kick it open however y'all wanna do.

I know it's a military officer, and then drag you out and then be like, you know, you can have a different [00:15:00] life. Right. So, , you said something so good. You said we attach our value, how we feel about ourselves to what we do. And if we have a job we're working so far beneath our value over time, we think that we don't have value because we're attaching what our value is to something completely outside of us.

Correct.

And the story of awakening that made sense to you. Was I yell? I think I was yelling because I said you're like a Gucci bag that fell off of a UPS truck , and somehow you ended up in, in Marshalls

Right.

And you forgot that you were a Gucci bag. You don't belong in Marshalls.

You belong. You are a brand new. Coveted, highly valuable. The Gucci bag that's on the shelf in Gucci and the [00:16:00] Gucci bag that's on the rack at Marshall's is the exact same bag. It is based on where it's placed as to what's gonna determine the value of it. That was good , and I was yelling because I was like, you are an authentic Gucci bag that fell off the UPS truck and ended up in Marshall's. And how did you get there? That's pretty much how I remember the conversation.

Yeah . That's pretty much, that's pretty much and be in the space that I was in at that time. So also we were, I was able to go back and say, Hey, everything Everyone I've done has value you know it's important. That's part of me, and it doesn't matter when I did it. You know, if you have an achievement and you get an award as you age, they don't disappear [00:17:00] because you get older or you do different things. They're still part of you and it's still part of your value, and so you're not.

Necessarily as a seasoned person starting over, you're adding to your value because you have all of that, you know, you've been seasoned, you know you like that meat that's been marinated, you know that you just put it in the pan, you gotta wait. Or that what's that? That fruit cake that takes, you know, what three or four days to make before you can sell it. So it's all those ingredients that make up who you are and that is your value. And I had really forgotten about that. You know, one of the things, you know, go back and list all your accomplishments. I'm like, what? You know, I'm like, well, you know, that happened so long ago. But one of the things is that the [00:18:00] value in doing that is that you remember who you are.

Because if you don't stand in those roles where you're underemployed, under-resourced, you know, overeducated and you attach yourself because the societal norms say what you do is who you are. And so you have to break yourself from that and realize that the only race you're running and the only person you're competing against is yourself So it doesn't really matter what anyone else is doing, cause you've got your race and your value and you're moving ahead. You know what you have to bring to the table is you and what someone else has to bring to the table is them. But you know, they're not mutually inclusive.

Alright, Vincine. Dropping fine, did you write that down or you just like laid that up. [00:19:00]

I just yeah. Made that up. We don't have my notes but you ain't ask me nothing about what I got.

Yeah, put that notes away. Cause we ain't talking about that.

Yeah.

So, that was good. Because you, what you talked about, when I think about. Women who were in their fifties, early fifties talking about ageism, I'd be like this, ageism is a easy to point to say they don't want me because of my age, as opposed to they don't want me because I'm not showing up as the full on Gucci bag.

Does that make sense? Because, you know, expensive bags, Herme's bags, appreciate. Certain bags appreciate and Beyonce out there in Jay-Z they buying 500,000 million dollar bags because they appreciate. Now the way that you treat an Herme's bag, authentic Herme's bag that [00:20:00] appreciates is completely different than how you treat a bag.

You know, treat a bag that you get from TJ Max for 12 dollars.

Correct.

So yes, you'll say ageism because a $12 TJ Max bag that ages don't age well. Let it be kind of, you know, looping off and it's kind of raggedy. You can put it on the floor, you can drug it around you let all play with it, but you ain't putting and letting nobody touch a $500,000 Herme's bag.

So it is how you see yourself. We were like grasshoppers in our own site first. And so we were to them numbers 13:33, turn your Bibles, then sing the numbers 13:33. It is like people see who you see, right?

Right.

So if you say, I don't have value, they don't think that you have value. How people see you is the direct reflection of how you see yourself.

And you talked. , you got stuck because you had a job where [00:21:00] you were underemployed. You were undervalued. You were overqualified. So you can't have a harmonious work environment where you don't belong.

Right.

And go ahead.

Yeah. And that makes it difficult, that it, you know, That was a source of my stress, that was a source of my high blood pressure. And I didn't really you know, realize that, you know, cause I'm thinking like, why am I having high blood pressure? You know? Is it because of the pandemic?

I'm in here eating everything. I'm not supposed to be eating and that exercising. Or was it really because of I was in a space that I was so unhappy and I was taking [00:22:00] it all in, and I was about to explode literally.

So which creates more fear, which keeps you locked there, because that's the cycle and the pattern.

Right.

I did it when I was in the Coast Guard and had arthritis. I wanted to resign after my three years cause I was like, these mofos was crazy. I mean, I love my job. I just, y'all know people who crazy everywhere. I love what we did. I loved our mission, but I developed arthritis and my medication was a thousand dollars an injection.

I took two a month and two week. It was $8,000 a month. So I now need the insurance, the a hundred percent medical insurance to cover the condition that the organization created. So if you have high blood pressure, the job is creating you feeling stagnated and you're misery, and now [00:23:00] you can't leave because you don't think that you have value and you're more mature.

So then you kind of get stuck in this loop. And the reason why I'm dragging the story out a little bit, is that there are women who are listening to me who are right where you were. What advice do you have for them? , you know, on the other side of where you are. Like if you're talking to yourself last January where you're stuck in that scenario, what advice would you have for yourself?

That I am worthy. That age is just a number. It's never too late to begin anything that you wanna do and it's really you. It's 90% mental, 10% physical. And it really is not only believing it, but actually seeing it. You know [00:24:00] we say that, you know, faith is a thing that faith is acting like a thing is. So even though it's not, so in order to be so. And so with that, you're embodying whatever it is that you do.

So you're setting out to do. And I would say to my younger self if I was giving advice that Run your own race. Run your own race, you know, you get on social media, you get on TikTok, Facebook, Lincoln, and when you see all this stuff, you know, if you're in a bad space, you're gonna be think like, wow, you know, my life is not worth anything.

This person is doing this, this person is doing that. You know, cause you're playing the comparison game. But you know, God has placed in each of us our own purpose. And so if your purpose is in you from the very beginning, your birth, it doesn't matter what anybody else is [00:25:00] doing because your purpose has not left your body.

God is just waiting for you to catch up with that purpose.

See you bringing the smoke on a Friday . You got pearls, all right, you're being twist, huh?

The other thing was really, Christy was you were relatable. You when you shared your story, you know, I felt like, oh God, there's somebody that has some similar. Experiences that I have also had. And so when you see people who are able to come out of the situation that you were in, you're like, Hey, well I want some of that.

I wanna know, you know, what you're doing so that I can do it. Because it is possible, you know, you've been in [00:26:00] that, you know, in the ditch under the mud. Under the mud. Under the mud and keep on digging and getting further, further in the ditch. But you were able to get out. So what was that? You know?

And if it's for, if you can do it, then it is possible for me. And I felt that it was very relatable. You know, I shared, you know, one-on-one with you the details of my story, but it was not until I really was able to confront all of that. I could really get free because I was just carrying that baggage around from one year to the next year, from one job to the next job from one, you know, city to the next city.

And then all of a sudden, you know, it's like, well, you know, you have so much baggage, you don't even have any room for the baggage that you have accumulated. And, if you wanna be free, you've gotta let that go. You've got to, [00:27:00] you know, change your mindset. And the beautiful thing is about the support group.

And even when you get down, you know, because you know, I would be not authentic if I say that, you know, going through the program and now everything is happy. And I never have any, you know, any problems. Like when you come to Jesus and just say, you know, you're saved, but you, you're a sinner, but you just sinless now that you're in Christ.

But is that you don't, there are things that. My experience doesn't allow me to go back, if you know what I mean. It's like, well, I wanna go back to that pity party. I wanna sing that story. I wanna sing that song again. But you can't, you maybe can sing it a little bit and you listen to somebody and they say, okay, well that's good now.

Okay, that's all you got. Now, tomorrow when I talk to you, you're gonna do x, y, z. But internally, [00:28:00] you know, I don't know if I've ever shared it, but I, it was one point where I was like, okay, I've done all this. I can't go back. You know, I was having a real bad day and I was walking around my house and I was saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going back to that space.

I am not going back to that space. And I kept on repeating, went outside, walked around, picked up some affirmation cards and started the same because I'am like. No, I've done the work. Why would, why do I wanna go back? And yes, it's hard, but it's because you have lived a life or experiences that have accumulated.

And so it's like they're part of you and they come up. It's not, I mean, you didn't get that wear overnight, so it's not gonna be released overnight. But it's a daily exercise. It's a daily exercise. It's a daily, you have to die to that baggage [00:29:00] so that you can be remain free.

This scene said you can't put new wine and old wines baby. So Mr. Grayland Chestnut is giving you senior is giving you shots out. He said you brought value and then that your presence alone was minister to others. Right. And I agree with that. And, but here's the thing is that we are the superwomen that can't be vulnerable, you know?

Yes. We know Vincine walks in the room and crushes it in any room that she walks in and she serves, but at a certain point. You know, even Elijah needed Elijah to wash his hands. This scene. So, you know, we gonna get over here we going. You want quote? Cause you know, that's my, that's my jam. Right? That's my right.

But, even the ministers [00:30:00] need to be ministered too. Even the women who serve need to be served. We're not stopping. We washing everybody's hands, washing everybody's feet. Cooking everything, doing everything, being everything to everybody. And a part of, you know the journey is we need to stop long enough to allow somebody to pour into us and to allow other people to be great to us.

So, yes, I do agree Mr. Graying Chestnut Senior, but You know, we're talking about Superwomen taking time to rest and then recuperate and get back to it. So one of the things that you said that was good I wanna bring back to it, was you said we had to confront your past and that was, I don't know how many times I held you act back after class.

I don't worry. They were all necessary.

Well before new, right? But here's the thing, [00:31:00] you know, we serious about change over here. We serious about it? We ain't just gonna let you slide through. Get this money invested. You come out on the other side unchanged. You be like this. Oh no. If they say meet me after the class, I got something for you.

. And so, because I could tell, right, this is a predictable process of freedom. We know week one, week two, week three, and you weren't getting your breakthrough. There was no, you weren't breaking through and it's because you were doing the work, but you were holding on to the ball of fire that you had been carrying around for a long time.

And I think it may have just taken that much time. Three things I think were occurring some things. One, you watching all the women around you get free and you are like this, they all getting free, they getting happy. I'm still, moving, but I'm stuck, right? Two, you hadn't removed enough stuff around it to just kind of see the one thing that was still sitting there.

Does that make sense? Like we had taken all [00:32:00] the peripheral things up and three, I think we built trust enough to let you know that it was a safe place for you to be able to talk because everybody's been through something. Let's just be clear. Everybody walk around with a ball of fire. I don't care who you are, where you from what your geographic location is, how much your socioeconomic break ground background, like your race, your culture, everybody got something, right?

We ain't talk about, we won't tell people business out here, but once you said, once we talked about it and then we let that go, then what happened? , once you confronted it. What, like, what were the immediate things? And I want people to, to understand, like, you gotta confront, you gotta confront it if you wanna be free.

Right.

So what happened? I would say, what changed in your life once you confronted, that scenario?

Well you begin to show up different.

No, you began to show up different so you not Yeah, not me. [00:33:00] You began to show up different.

Yeah. I began to show up different and it, you were free, you know, so there were things that were coming to me.

I think literally after one session, you know in terms of, you know, getting promoted twice getting a new job. You know, starting IAM 10, which is something that I've been wanting to do and really embracing of who I am now for some people, you know who know me, this is about being closed.

So for a long time everybody always see me say, but you got all this bag. So even in every aspect of my life, this luggage was. Following me around no matter what I did. So, you know, recently I was, I went somewhere and someone said, oh, you got on those short shorts, you know, I was like, yeah, because I would never wear [00:34:00] like shorts in public.

I just wouldn't do it. I mean, you know, so now, you know, I went outside just the other day. I went to visit somebody had on my shorts and my t-shirt, you know, like, Hey, you know, ,

I'm gonna be cool. And I said to myself, yeah, I'm gonna wear these shorts. I'm gonna wear all of these shorts, , you know, during the summertime.

So you're, it is kind of that, you know a feeling of freedom. You know, the self-confidence come back and you say, okay, I've got this down period, but I've got my tribe. That's gonna help me get through it. And you say, okay. But now I have the tools, the necessary tools, you know, to build a different box. You know, I can build whatever kind of box I wanna build, you know or , go back and finish a box that I started.

And so for me, I think it was like [00:35:00] finishing. The path that I had started, you know, and so I tie that back to you. So going back and reclaiming my purpose and saying, Hey, this is what I'm going to do, and, you know, this is my value. This is what I, you know, I bring to the table, you know, and that, yeah.

I, you know, I'm a badass. You know, I raised three kids and I'm a single mom. They all graduate from college. You know, they graduate from high school, they got good jobs, you know, so yeah, I did that thing. And, you know, you wanna learn how to do it. Talk to me, you know, , talk to me. I can give you some tips.

Just embracing that because as you say, they're playing small. Like I would always say, oh yeah, well, you know, [00:36:00] I did that and everybody said, well, you, I mean, but that's a big accomplishment than saying, oh, okay. You know, because it was easier to kind of play small as opposed to walking in my purpose.

You know, because when you walk in your purpose, you also gotta be a, you know, you gotta be willing to, you say, be uncomfortable, Christy to put yourself out there and be uncomfortable, but also know that it is okay to be uncomfortable. Cause what you don't know you don't know. But when you do know, then you gotta do better.

And so for me it was about, you know, people that know me, it's like, I'm like the walk-in library, you know, say, okay, well, and I got all this information. Like, we'll good, this information if you're never gonna act on it, you know? So, and when you are empowered with information, then you should [00:37:00] act on the information, you know?

So for me it was just a free, you know, I just felt free like my blood pressure, high blood pressure went away, went away, it went away, went away, went away, went away. So lost some weight, you know, but it was just, you know, a free, being more happy in terms of believing that I could go ahead and do what I wanted to do.

Impact. You know, each person is here for a purpose. And until you walk in your purpose, and like you said before, you're here to be a blessing for others. So your blessing and your purpose is really not for you, it's for other people. And so you've gotta go out there and make an impact for other people.

Impact other people's lives. So that's what you're here for. And so, I am happy that now I'm in the place [00:38:00] that I'm getting back on that path, so I can impact other people's lives, more people's lives.

Okay, Vincine. One day everybody count that collection of what she said, I wrote down.

So, the title you know, it takes a while. Like the team, you asked me, Christy, what did you know when I get ready to interview y'all, what do you wanna talk about? I was like, what? Seeing or talk about, it took me two days to think about, I don't know. And it was like, release your past to access your future.

Forgive your past. What's the name of this to access your Future? Cause the future is waiting, and you said something so good, you said, I'm getting back on the path that I started. You started this path back when you was 15, 60. Oh, you [00:39:00] was 12 when you started this path. . I mean, legit.

And when I first won my first science contest, I was like, what, eight?

So the path was being created at early on, and then you got to 8, 9, 10. Vincine in high school featured the newspapers and she's Vincine seeing the, you know, the ish, the this like, and then life derailed you, and then you came back and now you're just restarting , the tape player, the song in your music that you paused.

Does that make sense? Or like drowned out?

Yeah.

And so I love what you shared because. , a lot of women have paused. You know, a lot of women have allowed the circumstances of whatever happened to them in life to be able to derail them or to disrupt their music and disrupt what they are meant to do and what they're called to do.

Oh, you gonna [00:40:00] get to it? And I've told you several times, God, I will redeem the time. It's going to happen fast once you get into alignment. And so a part of you said, I got promoted twice. Check. Did you send me the numbers? cause you know I need to count your money. Then you got a new job then you started the IAM10, which is what your purpose is.

You said I'm a badass. I was like, I'm a Yeah. And then you said I won't go back. And so one of the things I wrote down earlier when you talked about, you said, I'm walking around the house and I'm like, I'm not gonna go back. I said, the space is waiting for you. Cozy and complacency is calling you every day.

It's a decision to get up and live your purpose. And it's not easy. And you have the tribe now who won't let you rest. They won't let you park. They won't let you stay. Cause we all dragging Vincine through the mud until she becomes bigger than Bill. Not a science guy. Vincine is the science machine. Okay.

[00:41:00] Right. Like, and until we see, cause we can see it. And we're now cheering for you as opposed to consoling you over here. So either you got friends who consoling you or you got friends who cheer for you, and we be like, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, I'll let you talk about this today, but tomorrow.

You better on it. And so what is that like now, you know, to have a group? Because leadership is lonely, life is lonely. For the brilliant talented, you know, women. What is, that like for you now to have that network and that support group?

It's very refreshing.

Because, you know, iron sharpens iron so you. One, you can't get [00:42:00] better by doing things by yourself regardless of what you think consists. That's just an illusion in your mind. Two, is that, you know, everybody. , you have a group that's gonna help you and people that are gonna hold you accountable. And there are, you know, whatever you're doing, different other aspects of your life.

You may need different support and coaching, you know, different coaching. But you have this tribe that says, Hey, and you have also resource's. and so now it's like, you know, congestion, you know, connections and resources and a tribe that you didn't have before, which is powerful of people of like-mindedness.

So everybody thrives when they're in groups of like mine. It's [00:43:00] like, you know, I felt like. I've now gotten back into the water. I was a fish outta water. And you're trying to assimilate and to fit into an environment that you just don't belong. And the longer you stay there, you begin to die. And I always say this, when I talk to people, I say, you know, you've gotta leave. You know, I tell people, I say, you've gotta leave because if you don't, you are gonna be like a grave.

Dried up fruit on a vine and then you're gonna fall off and be rotten and not good at anybody. And you know, I've been there, I've done that. You know, it's not a good place to be. It doesn't feel good. And you know, it is only those people that really love you, that are willing to come in, pick up that rotten fruit and make it whole again.

But there are a lot of people that would just walk away. But you don't have to get to that spot you know? But a [00:44:00] lot of times we do because of the whole, you know, it's the same thing. You know, I've done this and I've got this degree. I've done this. I went to this school and look at my life now look at the other person, you know?

And you don't, I think the forgiveness for me was forgiving myself, you know, saying like, Hey, okay. , you know, some of the circumstances were outta your control, you know, even though you wanna continue to live your life, like, you could have controlled those circumstances, but you couldn't and what you did, you know, and people that know me in terms of being resilient and I, you know, if there's a will there's a way, you know, I can make stuff, you know, I was a research cameras, product development, so I know how to, you know.

Look at something and make something great out of it. And so for me, now I can say I value myself [00:45:00] and I appreciate my own greatness and I can become greater. You know, so for me, I think that's a bigger, and I think, you know, it is an inspiration for my kids. You know, my children so are different. You know, am I being.

And they knew that, you know, the job that I had was. I mean, you know, I don't know who was more happy than me, , I said I was. But , you know, so it affects every aspect of your life, but it is just very free and I think for everybody to begin to set boundaries and live life on your own terms. Is healthy. It's empowering, you know the law of attraction is real, you know?

And so those things that you want and resources begin, [00:46:00] you know, to come your way, to come your way to come your way, to come your way. And so, but it is still a daily exercise. Incidental exercise. So you, yeah. I mean, you have to remember that, but it is about your mindset. I'm like, I'm not going back. I'm not going back.

So you begin to get particular about what it, you know, choosing those things that you want and what you will and will not do, and having those boundaries. So it's been great. It's a great ride.

All right, Vincine, go ahead. What were you gonna say?

I said it's a great ride and I'm, you know, I'm living in my purpose and you know, I'm excited about, IAM10 and if anybody wants to ride along with me and connect with IAM10, you can do that.

Support. IAM10.Org.

So, [00:47:00] okay, we gonna pause my commercial break and we gonna create yours. What do you need as support? What do you need for IAM10. So I want you to because you talked about, , I want you to tell people what you've done. I tell people what you've done, not finally , right?

Like so your soul was on the spectrum.

Your son was on the spectrum. And, you were like, and what happens is when kids are born, different people label it as something negative and they wanna push them in the corner and be like, you're now special needs. And you said, not. Not in the Vincine science machine, household, not my child.

And then what does your son do today?

He works in the technology field as a [00:48:00] software engineer.

He's a senior software engineer. Right?

A senior software engineer.

So, alright. Right. So her son was born on the spectrum. People said, your son push him over in, put him in special classes, he gonna be all right. He's special needs.

And Vincine said, not today. And then now her son, how old is he?

24 year old senior software engineer. So the challenge, you know, when I was dragging Vincine through the mud and over the icicles through the ocean is you have a gift. The world needs you to work with kids on the spectrum because you've proven the model in your house. First. You've proven the model and said, not my son. Now you say, not these communities, not other [00:49:00] kids. So that was a challenge to then sing and it makes sense now in the path that you started when you were eight and then the 15, and then the 18, and then you got derailed.

You were created for such a time. This where kids are now being born on the spectrum and being pushed in the corner and told that what they can't do when their parents are giving doomed and dooming information and now you have a whole New message to share and a whole new conversation to share with regards to what's possible for kids who are born.

So that's what IAM10 is ladies and gentlemen, . I just wanna be clear on what she just created because that's going to be her life's work. That is her life's work. And now it's on and popping. I got my fiddle and my banjo in the background. Cause, you know, I like to play country music. We cheer it for you.

We cheer it for you. So what are you looking for? You know, what support do you need with [00:50:00] regards to IAM10.org?

What we're looking for people that wanna partner with us so we can get the word out. So I am, you know, in the process of now, you know, developing my website so that I can spread the word.

We want to not only do kids, but we wanna get mentor those employees so that in the workplace they can live their authentic self, that they can get the tools and resources that they need, and that we can go ahead and educate those employers that think missing out on all of these valuable resources.

People who are brilliant and when we're in a technology age, you know, and so you're missing out on them. So imparting with IAM10 and what we need is people to give us access into those spaces [00:51:00] so we can support and educate them. And connect them with the tools so they can be successful.

Is it IAM10.org or Im t e n?

It's IAM10.org.

Oh, I'd like to be right. All right, so you need partners. , you need organizations. So that'll be like recruiters and stuff like that for people who want to who are missing out on talent. Right? And this is new, so you just breaking ground. You don't need a website breaking down.

Right? You don't need no website, Vincine, don't get it twist. You don't need all that stuff.

I don't need a website. Okay?

You don't need a website. You just need the mission, right? You can create a Facebook page and like get this out. And so this is new ground, so if you wanna work, talk to Vincine about it and if, you know, have any ideas for how she can prove the model with other people's kids, because that's pretty much what it is.

She ain't starting over, [00:52:00] she's done this already. Let's be clear, Vincine has done this. Her kid is a senior sophomore engineer at 24 was told who he wasn't going to be, and she said, not in my house. Now how is it going to impact households all around the world? Because this is a worldwide problem. So and she also needs resources.

Right.

From large companies who want to sponsor and be a part of and put their name on top of what IAM10 and the impact of what they get ready to go and do into this world. Cause it's gonna be phenomenal. So Vincine, I appreciate. Gray Chestnut said, connect with me and I will assist in your efforts.

IAM10 support at IAM10.org Look, let's be clear. I am so proud of you. Cause we have, I said Mike. Yeah. When is Lady gonna wake up? And it's funny cause when you were like, oh, she said, list all your accomplishments. I was like, she talking about me. [00:53:00] Right. And I ain't know why I gotta do all that.

But heaven sakes, where is this lady? Gotta be free. That was always my question. But you always showed up. Most of the time you leave, you come back with leave. Actually, now I think you left. But I would come and snatch you back and then you would try to run away. You couldn't get away. Right. And this is the thing, and I wanna say this and then we'll close like your mission is so big.

The world needs it. And a lot of times people think that, I don't think that people think I do this money because if you really knew me. No, it ain't even about the money. I'm we coming for change and we're coming for your gift. We're coming to unpack your gift so you can share your gift with the world.

That's what we do over here at Vision Find International. That's, what we do. That's all we do. That's all we want, and we are willing to come drag you out at your house. Which, today's a do song and Vincine wearing her short [00:54:00] shorts and I got her confidence back. She said, I'm wearing my shorts.

So I just, I really want to say publicly that I am proud of you. I am proud of the work that you're doing. I'm proud of the work that you did on yourself first, and then you got into alignment with who you already know. You are right, not who you supposed to be. You already know purpose is revealed.

Like you're already this person and now you're continuing on the journey that you started long ago to be able to make worldwide impact. And Vincine, the science machine, prove me, right? Because I'm waiting. It will be like. So I'm proud of you. So, all right, y'all. Hit Vincine support at IAM10.org.

Y'all already know where they find me at, but I want this to be Vincine end for the commercial. So Vincine. Let's get ready to rumble. Baby its already pack and out. Can't go back. Bye y'all.

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