So what was the question that you put forward to him?
Speaker AAnd let me.
Speaker ALet me look.
Speaker BSo the question was, if animals rely on their senses and humans rely on intelligence, who would you say is more in tune with the omniverse?
Speaker AIf animals rely on their senses and humans rely on intelligence, who would you say is more in tune with the omniverse?
Speaker AIs the omniverse an intelligence?
Speaker BWell, let's say that it was.
Speaker BThat it's consciousness.
Speaker BOne big ass ball of consciousness.
Speaker AYou will go with that definition?
Speaker BI could.
Speaker BI could.
Speaker ANow, here's the question.
Speaker AHere's my question to you.
Speaker AIs that consciousness?
Speaker ABecause what's the definition of conscious?
Speaker BLet's look it up and see.
Speaker AWell, according as an adjective, it's aware of.
Speaker AOf.
Speaker AAnd responding to one's surroundings awake, having knowledge of something.
Speaker AAware.
Speaker AI guess if you go with that definition, you therefore have to say animals are conscious.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHow.
Speaker AHow can I say that?
Speaker AYou ever watch lions hunt gazelles?
Speaker BYep.
Speaker AYou have a group of gazelles out there, and they sitting up there eating the grass.
Speaker AYou know, they can't see anything, they can't hear anything or whatever.
Speaker ABut all of a sudden, one gazelle sticks his head up, and then, you know, another gazelle may stick their head up, and all of a sudden the pack starts running.
Speaker AWhich.
Speaker AWhich gazelle usually gets e.
Speaker BThe slowest
Speaker Aor the sick one or the one that ain't paying.
Speaker BThat ain't paying attention?
Speaker AHey, it is the equivalent to, hey, you ever see.
Speaker AHey, you ever been around a bunch of black people and.
Speaker AAnd just start running?
Speaker BWell, what would happen?
Speaker BY' all know what gonna happen.
Speaker BAin't no black person asking no questions.
Speaker BThey gonna take off running.
Speaker BWe ask questions when we get the.
Speaker BAway from where the we just came from.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHey, bro, you were running for so.
Speaker BCause that was running.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo going back to the gazelle.
Speaker AAnd here's the question.
Speaker AWhat made that first gazelle, that second gazelle stick their head up?
Speaker BWell, the first gazelle, I would say, sensed something.
Speaker BWhether he.
Speaker BWhether it heard it or.
Speaker BOr actually felt the presence of something or the smell senses Definitely, definitely came into play.
Speaker BNow, the second one probably seen what the.
Speaker BThat got down.
Speaker BThe first one was trying to, you know, was looking at or it picked up on the.
Speaker BOn the sense as well.
Speaker ADid.
Speaker ADid they pick up a vibe that.
Speaker ADid they feel a shift of energy?
Speaker AWhat let them know, hey, something ain't right?
Speaker ALions around us, I would say it
Speaker Breally depend on what sense alerted the.
Speaker BThe gazelle to look up.
Speaker ASo is that consciousness?
Speaker BIs that consciousness of becoming aware of some, according to the definition.
Speaker ASo are you saying.
Speaker AWould you with that, going with that, Would you say animals are more connected to the Omniverse than we?
Speaker BI think they are.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo, so, yeah.
Speaker ACould a person turn around and be more connected than the animal?
Speaker BMore connected?
Speaker BI don't.
Speaker BI don't think.
Speaker BI don't think humans have the capability of being more connected than the animal.
Speaker AI beg to differ, young man.
Speaker BYou can, you can.