Speaker A

So what was the question that you put forward to him?

Speaker A

And let me.

Speaker A

Let me look.

Speaker B

So the question was, if animals rely on their senses and humans rely on intelligence, who would you say is more in tune with the omniverse?

Speaker A

If animals rely on their senses and humans rely on intelligence, who would you say is more in tune with the omniverse?

Speaker A

Is the omniverse an intelligence?

Speaker B

Well, let's say that it was.

Speaker B

That it's consciousness.

Speaker B

One big ass ball of consciousness.

Speaker A

You will go with that definition?

Speaker B

I could.

Speaker B

I could.

Speaker A

Now, here's the question.

Speaker A

Here's my question to you.

Speaker A

Is that consciousness?

Speaker A

Because what's the definition of conscious?

Speaker B

Let's look it up and see.

Speaker A

Well, according as an adjective, it's aware of.

Speaker A

Of.

Speaker A

And responding to one's surroundings awake, having knowledge of something.

Speaker A

Aware.

Speaker A

I guess if you go with that definition, you therefore have to say animals are conscious.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

How.

Speaker A

How can I say that?

Speaker A

You ever watch lions hunt gazelles?

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker A

You have a group of gazelles out there, and they sitting up there eating the grass.

Speaker A

You know, they can't see anything, they can't hear anything or whatever.

Speaker A

But all of a sudden, one gazelle sticks his head up, and then, you know, another gazelle may stick their head up, and all of a sudden the pack starts running.

Speaker A

Which.

Speaker A

Which gazelle usually gets e.

Speaker B

The slowest

Speaker A

or the sick one or the one that ain't paying.

Speaker B

That ain't paying attention?

Speaker A

Hey, it is the equivalent to, hey, you ever see.

Speaker A

Hey, you ever been around a bunch of black people and.

Speaker A

And just start running?

Speaker B

Well, what would happen?

Speaker B

Y' all know what gonna happen.

Speaker B

Ain't no black person asking no questions.

Speaker B

They gonna take off running.

Speaker B

We ask questions when we get the.

Speaker B

Away from where the we just came from.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Hey, bro, you were running for so.

Speaker B

Cause that was running.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So going back to the gazelle.

Speaker A

And here's the question.

Speaker A

What made that first gazelle, that second gazelle stick their head up?

Speaker B

Well, the first gazelle, I would say, sensed something.

Speaker B

Whether he.

Speaker B

Whether it heard it or.

Speaker B

Or actually felt the presence of something or the smell senses Definitely, definitely came into play.

Speaker B

Now, the second one probably seen what the.

Speaker B

That got down.

Speaker B

The first one was trying to, you know, was looking at or it picked up on the.

Speaker B

On the sense as well.

Speaker A

Did.

Speaker A

Did they pick up a vibe that.

Speaker A

Did they feel a shift of energy?

Speaker A

What let them know, hey, something ain't right?

Speaker A

Lions around us, I would say it

Speaker B

really depend on what sense alerted the.

Speaker B

The gazelle to look up.

Speaker A

So is that consciousness?

Speaker B

Is that consciousness of becoming aware of some, according to the definition.

Speaker A

So are you saying.

Speaker A

Would you with that, going with that, Would you say animals are more connected to the Omniverse than we?

Speaker B

I think they are.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

So, so, yeah.

Speaker A

Could a person turn around and be more connected than the animal?

Speaker B

More connected?

Speaker B

I don't.

Speaker B

I don't think.

Speaker B

I don't think humans have the capability of being more connected than the animal.

Speaker A

I beg to differ, young man.

Speaker B

You can, you can.