It's like ready for Denver.

That'll be fun.

Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like, I'm trying to hang over every year.

It's like just four days of.

This load up on donuts and Dr. Pepper.

Yeah. Yeah.

It is a lot of fun

welcoming everybody.

It's a craft beer republic.

Thanks for drinking. Thanks for joining.

I am Greg being joined by the buffet

beer smoked beer hater in all of the Midwest.

And that is Lexi. What's up, Lexi?

Come on. I don't hate them.

They're just not for my palate.

But I'm really excited today to ask our guest what he thinks of pumpkin beers.

Oh, that is a great question, and I can't wait to ask him now either.

And speaking of said guest, he's trying to give Flex a run for his money.

He's got the guns out.

He is the head brewer over at 14 cannons.

Nick Bordelon, Nick, how's it going? Man going great.

Drinking on a monday.

There is nothing wrong with drinking on a monday.

There's nothing better than drinking on a monday, let me tell you. Yeah.

And you know, we have an excuse for it's like a hobby or something.

It's very efficient. Totally.

Yeah, exactly.

It's totally not alcoholism or.

Yeah, it's not a problem.

It's it's it's a hobby.

It's a lifestyle.

Get used. To podcast. Mom. Yeah.

Now get out of the basement.

We're recording.

Where's the meatloaf.

Yeah.

Have it ready for when the show is over.

All right, before we get into Nick and why he's hanging out with us

and what we're all drinking tonight, just a couple of quick things.

Find us on the socials at Craft Beer Republic at Flex Me Beer underscores

in between and of course at 14 cannons and 14 cannons.

Dot com.

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get your ten bucks off your first purchase and all that good stuff.

All right. I think that's the business.

Let's get right into the hydration.

I'm tired of not drinking on a monday.

All right. Nick and I are drinking two beers.

They have something in common, and that's that.

He made them.

I am drinking, of course.

14 cannons, Mariner Medicine, 5.4.

Is this weird when I give you the stats of your own beer?

No, it's good.

I get the refresher sometimes.

Yeah.

If you don't remember, it is a 5.3%.

It has apparently 22 IIB use.

Is that correct?

That feels made out at three three.

It's untapped.

So it's like, I'm going to believe it, I'm going to believe it.

It's like going to Wikipedia for a book report when the.

Brewer gives you the shrug.

I love it.

Who cares what I booze anymore, right?

They don't mean anything anymore.

And then apparently the description on untapped is amber lager.

Sweet malty clean lager.

Yeah, that one I agree with. Okay.

We're good.

This has won, I believe, the most awards of any of your beers.

Is that correct?

Yeah. For four medals now.

San Diego, L.A.

and California craft beer competition. That's what it is.

I can't keep them on my head, nor should I.

And any GBV plans with this beer.

It got submitted.

We'll find out next week.

Mm. Well, that is exciting.

Yeah. Once before.

Okay. So we're back at it.

Second time's a charm. That's what they say.

Let's hope. Yes.

This is one of the faves on tap at 14.

It's my wife's fave all the time.

This one and K 17.

I love that you make it year round.

I appreciate that.

And I also appreciate that even though it's like sweet malty, it's not too sweet.

I hate when you get those medicines that are just like

diabetes bombs in a glass.

This is not that. It's very well-balanced.

It's the proper amber color.

As the description appropriately says, and very clear

and just easy to drink all the time and appreciate it.

Like I said, the groundedness.

Sometimes when we're making like brats or sausages, we'll stop by the brewery

and pick up a a corral or of of the medicine and just good stuff.

I like to put it in my smoker. Oh.

It does. Really?

Well, that's a new hack.

The Melanesians talk. Nerdy to us.

Just.

Just works well with the brisket.

That sounds a shit.

Now, I'm going to do that next time.

And what are you drinking?

We're both drinking your beers.

I'm having a 17 hour check. Dark lager.

So good.

This one just won gold at

San Diego International, so I took some home to celebrate.

Yeah, you might thank you. Just. Yeah.

So now, is that one?

Have any ABV plans?

This one also got submitted.

So this is exciting time.

Exciting times for 14 cannons.

It's going to be a fun week.

It's going to be a busy week.

Before we I want to have a few more questions about JB

and then of course, the big party coming up.

Before we do, I just wanted to mention real quick a huge congratulations

to our friend Brett down the street from Nick over at Knotty Pine Brewing.

They had their first anniversary last weekend and it was quite the party.

We had a blast.

They also released she released her one year anniversary marathon, also delicious.

So if you're in the hood,

you want to do some beer science, start up at 14, grab one

and then head down the streets into your pint and grab another one.

You can you can drink a few they're lower ABV.

It's good stuff.

So we'll talk more about the party next week.

We got we got a voicemail from the party some people were getting hydrated.

It was definitely a good time.

All right.

So speaking of anniversary parties, Nick, you guys are having

an anniversary party in a couple a week and a half or so, right?

Yeah.

We from Saturday tell five. What the fuck?

How did that happen? I was thinking about today.

I was like, Holy shit, what were we all doing five years ago.

Man? It's been it's been a wild ride.

We're super stoked with our anniversary beer

that we're canning is going to be what you're drinking.

Now, Greg, a version of our marzen.

So we took that recipe and I've been aging it

in new French oak barrels too.

So we're going to call this barrel aged marzen lost at sea

class and and super excited

it is tasting fantastic I have been peeking at the barrels

so we're lager in the marzen and new French oak with a medium

plus toast for all you wine nerds, if there are any on this show.

Yeah. One or two.

Yeah. And it's taste and lovely.

So it's, it's our most popular lager and we've never put it in cans before.

So when we were talking about what are we going to do for our fifth

anniversary, make it special, it's, it's our most requested beer to put in cans.

So I don't want to just put marzen in cans.

So we did a fun little twist and we've been aging it on new French oak.

Nice. Yeah.

I've always been surprised that it never made the canning line, so that's exciting.

Yeah.

I'm not sure if I have ever heard of, like, an oak aged beer like that before.

I copied fire, so I'm not going to

rip them right off.

They do an oak aged Octoberfest every year.

That's lovely. There's the first beer, I believe.

So it's a light lighter beer and it's aged in oak as well.

And it's the beer.

I look forward to drinking every Octoberfest season around here,

so we decide to do that with our Marzen and it's tastes great.

That's hilarious and what a way it is.

Like, Hey, I like this beer, I'm

going to make it slightly better and add a little more to my liking.

We'll see. Dig it.

I saw some hints on the ground that you guys are doing another coffee.

Beer, which I'm excited about. Yeah. So?

So that anniversary of beer losses

is just one of four new releases we're doing that day.

We got a little ambitious with this.

This anniversary. It's fire.

Well, yeah, it's. It's a big one. Yeah.

So the other beers we have, we have a surprise beer that I brewed with my band.

So the scuba kids are SCOBY and we'll be playing at the anniversary party.

So we'll be releasing a scuba kid beer at the anniversary party.

It is.

Is that the name of it?

Scuba Kid is named after our most streamed song, which is Banana Bread.

The name and the name of the beer is Banana Bread.

So you can probably guess what style of beer it is.

Got it.

That's that's awesome.

Yeah, it's going to be soon. So it's a super fun day.

We had the whole band over in the morning and we brewed a batch of beer together.

So listen, a bunch of punk and scala, we were brewing away.

So that was a lot of fun.

It would be.

Well, it's not.

We have a new coffee.

Beer with California Coffee Republic.

Again, that is going to be a nitro coffee stout.

So going classic with that this time, I've always done like order styles

with with their coffee,

you know, like our morning watch was, you know, a light beer.

And so which.

Was delicious, by the way.

So, yeah, we were on the last keg of it.

Oh, so very last keg.

So it's just perfect timing.

And as soon as that kicks, we'll have the new coffee beer out.

It's almost what I drink tonight.

I just figured they'd be a little too cliche.

Yeah, right.

That's like seven times on the show.

Yeah.

And then

I'm doing the unspeakable.

The what?

We never thought.

We don't. Say it.

We're doing. It.

Is it a fruited sour or seltzer?

It is a hazy terrain aside. Oh.

So I found.

I like I like the sound of that.

I am so like thrilled with.

When I went to CBC earlier this year, Craft Brewers Conference

talked with the people from Berkeley Yeast up in Berkeley, California,

and they are insanely smart nerds

and they have genetically engineered yeast

to give off the same

like Essence Styles is what they're called

into the beer as like tropical hops give to it

so think mosaic thing Nelson yeah.

Who now.

So when the when the yeast is fermenting it's giving off these same flavors

and it's also very hazy.

So we used that yeast in the batch of our trans side and it is just,

it's, it smelled like

a fruit salad like coming out of the day before it was even dry hot.

It was so fruity.

So we're really excited for that.

So it's our first ever, ever like actual hazy IPA

using this fun new use from Berkeley yeast.

Did you brew it exactly the same way just swapped out the yeast with.

Yes, we just started the yeast and I did remove the bitter and hops.

Okay.

So we took it so hazy IPA aren't bitter.

So we took out we took out the bitter hop editions in the, in the early boil

and just did all whirlpool but the same exact whirlpool hops

so it's still the same cryo hopped monster some common technique equal not.

Did that did that hurt you a little bit to do that.

You know.

We'll see.

It's still in the tank.

It was my idea because I was so I was so excited

trying this new product when when I sampled a beer from them

using, you know, this this new tropical yeast training they have

I it tasted like one of the happiest things I've ever had.

And they didn't brew with any hops. Wow.

So all the flavor and aroma is just coming from this wild,

genetically modified yeast.

That's insane.

Yeah. Yeah. So I almost didn't believe them.

And then, you know, when we brewed this batch of beer,

it was overwhelmingly tropical and hoppy and fruity.

So we're really excited.

I'm I'm excited for it. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know how I'm going to get down there,

but I'm going to I'm going to try. Try this bad boy.

I'm not a fan of shipping crawlers.

We'll see.

Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend that.

It's a little. Dicey.

Yeah. Have you tried it yet? Have you.

Have you take a little sample of the tank.

Oh yeah.

We've been, we've been sampling daily because everyone's so excited.

And you don't look angry about it.

No, I mean, it's tasting fantastic.

It's tasting really, really, really nice.

So we're we're not going to centrifuge it.

That was I was leaning maybe I'll centrifuge it and just do it real loose.

But we don't want to call it a hazy and it not look hazy.

So it's not like we've gone on any rants about that around here.

So don't get us started.

That's hilarious.

I love it.

Do you have any, I don't know, examples of hazes

outside of your own that you like, that you're like,

all right, if it tastes like this, we're okay?

Or is this going to be the first hazy that you're down with?

No, I like a lot of them all this the peach ones.

But now I think it's is really fantastic haze work when they do a hazy IPA

and then the one that locally that we drink a lot is

come on now.

It just just just left me.

Midwest. Midwest. Thank you.

Oh, wow.

Right.

Yeah, yeah. I say it time and time again.

It's the best regularly produced hazy IPA in there.

Right. Right. So, so that that one's great.

So hopefully the hazy trans side stacks up.

I think we're going to call it tropical trans side. All right.

Because the yeast strain is so overwhelmingly tropical.

I like it. I'm excited.

I I'm I'm on the on the haze train aisle.

I'm looking forward to it.

You know, you don't me.

I'm I'm classic haze boy over here. Right?

I love me a good West Coast but can't do I love me some haze these men.

Yeah. Get on the plane, man.

I'm not send you a crawler. That's dicey.

No, no, I'm not asking for you.

I got to find my way down there to get this.

Yeah.

So at our anniversary party on the 15th, we'll have a flight.

You can do the anniversary flight of all four of these new beers.

Oh, hell, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, that'll be fun.

All right, so for new beers, scuba, kids are playing.

A couple bands.

It's going to be a proper concert.

It's a big show.

I love that you play at your own events that

that might be my favorite thing about you.

It's not you're not self-absorbed or anything like that.

You just.

Yeah, well, it's even better

when I tell people that I'm headlining right.

Send them up.

Yeah, well, that's brilliant.

That's brilliant.

Yeah.

Scuba kids are headlining in the alley behind my brewery.

So you said you had all the guys from the band over at Rainbird The Beer,

and you said you listen to a bunch of Scone Punk.

I'm not super fond of ska music, but what's your favorite punk rock band?

Oh, that's hard.

I mean, I've been listened to.

I've been on the odd, like, Streetlight Manifesto kick lately.

Okay.

Then I've been really enjoying that.

I think that's just because the horn lines are really tasty.

But yeah, it's.

It's gonna be fun.

We have like three other punk bands that are going to be playing with us,

so it's going to be a fun show.

All music, all night out back.

It's awesome. It's what?

What, you want it like a beer event, an anniversary event.

Just great live music, great beer, great times.

Yeah. Yeah.

And we were talking about it before the show and then sort of a hint

as we were drinking our beers.

You guys be at a f coming up here and few days and yeah.

What are you allowed to tell us besides the two where you talked about

led to tell us all the beers you entered?

We just said we did our four core lagers.

So we did our Mexican lager, our pilsner, the Marzen and K 17 no.

Uh, Tyrannosaur side IPA Categories.

DC True.

When you think about the it's like five 600 entries

in every IPA, Juicy IPA,

there's just thousands and thousands of IPA entries that GBV.

So it's more of a crapshoot. Like how do you

come across different?

Is there a cold IPA category and an IPL category or.

I think that's under experimental IPA this year.

They have a category for all of them.

It's I want to bring up the fact that since the last time

we hung out with Nick that like it seems like cold IPA

have I don't know tampered down just a little bit.

They might have called them a flash in the pan and yeah, it is fast but.

Some people are still coming out with them.

Yeah.

Cells I feel like the cold IPA IPL thing has really been like a line in the sand.

You can see the breweries who are like,

Yeah, fuck yeah, we're jumping on the trend.

And then you can see the other brews like, That's bullshit, we're calling this

an IPL and we're brewing more ipl's too called an IPL because that's what it is.

Yeah, it's an IPL.

My favorite one. My favorite one I had was

they deemed it a cold

IPA in quotation marks, but then they classified

the beer as a West Coast pilsner and I just thought that was outstanding.

I like that. Sweet that.

And what we want to announce here on

the show is the fifth special release for the anniversary is a cold IPA.

Everybody

it's hard to say with lager yeast.

And Nick sweating over there now.

Yeah, he's like, I got to go.

That's not touching my lager.

And dang. Yeah.

And then at JB,

if you guys going to have a, uh, a booth or do you guys just for it?

Yeah.

So anyone listening, you're at GBV, any of the sessions were there, so

come by, say hi, meet the guys.

My fiancee will be there as well.

We must be getting chilly at nighttime, I'm sure.

Or days. I don't know.

It's the after parties are nuts and so is the event itself.

Yeah.

Cause they generally at like the least bar or least beer

related establishment possible or it's a mix.

There is some of that.

But then there's also like everyone waiting in line at beer

stop for it and they're slow pour Pils right.

Yeah. You get that kick you out.

Yeah it's it. That's every night. Yeah. Yeah.

Line up for 2 hours to get your five, five minute bar.

Yep, yep.

And I know off off air we were talking about you.

You're not excited for The Hangover.

The future hangover.

It's four days of just wanting to die.

But then, you know the weird thing, you start drinking, you feel great again.

Well, so.

So what's your.

What's your hangover cure? What's your head?

Too many beers last night, and you got to have this the next day to feel okay.

It's straight

up pretzel and sausage, beer side.

And then. More beer. Yeah, that's.

That's breakfast.

Right? I'm so good.

They had a go wrong with that over a beer stat to inflects.

I think you had a very important question for Nick, I.

Oh, yeah. Hey, Nick, what's up, man?

So just, just curious what your feelings on pumpkin beers are.

Pumpkin beers never made one.

And I think that says it all, folks.

Yeah, to be fair, he's also never made it hazy.

And then here we go.

So that's true.

Well, what's your. Anniversary, pumpkin? Beer.

I feel like he can brew any beer. Super.

Well, it's just the matter of him wanting to do it.

Well, there's also that I don't blame you for not wanting to brew a pumpkin beer,

that's for sure. You know what?

And I was going to have one on tonight, but I drank my last one last night.

Poor timing on my part.

You're so basic, though.

Basic. Sue me.

All right, so go check out the party on the 15th.

If you're in the SoCal area and if you're in Denver for a brief

go, head up Nick and the fiance and get some paws.

Absolutely. Are you guys porn?

Everything that you've entered, is that how it works?

Yep. You'll get some Casey Fountain.

You won't be sorry. It's, uh. Thank you. Thank you.

Just pound the shit out of that.

Well, Pound makes it sound like I just get hammered.

Drink the shit.

Well, that's the same.

There's a lot of pounding it. Yeah. All right, fair enough.

All right, before we find out what Flex is doing

and we have a voicemail from the home, it's your beer.

And I wasn't going to play it cause we had Nick on it.

And it's no surprise.

It's a lengthy voicemail.

But you are kidding me.

I know there are some things in this voicemail.

I think Nick can talk to you so we're going to go with it.

Ernie, strap in, get your beers ready.

Smoke them if you got them.

Here's a voicemail from your beer.

So confused.

Sounds like a lot of extra steps.

Thanks to you.

But you live in California.

We don't have all the winter.

Tom Selleck wore short shorts.

Can't go there.

Can't go there, though.

Utah.

Oh, gosh.

It's all downhill.

Let's Happy New Year, Greg.

Thank you.

All right.

Math, my wife

says the same thing.

I think with the.

Length of that voicemail, he's helping us get to an hour and a half show.

You know what that was super flattering

and it's not the first time I've heard the episode needs to be longer.

Greg Okay, I have some friends who listen to it and they're like,

Hey, this show's pretty solid, but just a little bit longer.

Yeah, I'll tell the producer, I'll let them know.

Yeah, if you can find him somewhere.

Yeah, he takes your feedback very seriously.

Crickets.

Yeah.

So anyways, I wasn't going to make Nick talk to the whole

leotard thing, but I was.

Asking about. Loggers and seltzer's.

Not really about Seltzers, but one of the things you brought up was

we talked about Seltzers being passed up by lagers

in sales over Labor Day weekend according to Drizly,

which was like the first time it happened and way too long.

Have you guys seen any uptick in lager sales?

Huge, huge uptick.

Is it the weather or

is it people trying.

To sell move a lot?

Yeah, I don't think it's the soft thing,

but we just saw a huge

a huge push for our good towards of Mexican lager in the L.A.

market. So it actually got picked up by L.A.

Distribution Company and they're flying through like 7-Eleven.

Wow. Wow.

So stardom cold in 7-Eleven and they're flying off the shelves.

So it it's been fun to watch that happen.

Now you need to collab with a caterer say Slurpee.

I don't hate that.

I hey, you heard it from me.

I'm just saying.

Next summer.

Next summer, come down, we'll get the washing machine out.

I'm sorry, man.

Instead of hot dogs, the only thing is, it's.

It's tacos that you could pair with your car towards a Slurpee.

Courtesy Slurpee with a lime and some tacos. Oh.

I don't think you can beat that.

I'm here for it all summer long.

There we go.

Sixth anniversary. Let's do. This

tour.

Are already planning a year ahead of time. I love it.

Yeah.

Hey, you know, planning an ounce of planning is better.

I don't know.

Yeah, it's. Better.

Something like that. Anyways. No, but that's.

That's interesting that the loggers are going.

So I wonder if it's, if it's the weather.

It's been so hot out, but I don't know.

I'm glad to see Seltzer's.

Uh, getting taken over.

You know how I feel about that.

You know it's sad. Yeah.

Yeah, everyone's sad about it.

All right, Flex.

We asked the question.

Yeah, go ahead and ask it.

Let's ask.

Em. Yeah.

Can you hear me?

All right?

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Well, yeah.

I mean, that's pretty that's pretty stone ass there.

I don't know if I don't know if we're allowed to say that anymore, but

these guys are.

The chewy body, though.

It it's a it could be a little chewier,

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It is a double hazy.

So it is hazy, but it definitely starts with that tropical

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Not bitter at all because the you know zero IPAs abuse thank you untapped

but yeah it's just that I love these guys

they make really really really good beer.

It's about all I can say about these guys.

These were great beer, great beer names.

All of them.

The name's worth the hype itself.

So get.

Well.

The last one I bought from these guys was My safe word is Murder Hornet.

So that's perfect.

Do a collab beer with cola and call it them.

I say if word is pineapple joke.

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I know.

I remember a few years ago like the big oh my god

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And to me it's whatever.

Yeah, it's not like they're making zero abuse costs, you know.

Right. That would be a little weird.

That would just change the game. Yeah.

Game changer.

Not a good way.

You're going to be very Westy at that point.

All right.

A couple of new stories we should talk about before we head on up out of here.

We'll try and get this one to an hour and a half just for chew.

Not really either.

Yeah.

Oh, good news for Flex.

Well, good news. Question mark.

Eagle Park Brewing has acquired Milwaukee Brewing Company's intellectual property.

So we talked,

I don't know, a couple of months ago that Milwaukee Brewing

got bought out by the company from Chicago.

Who's going to turn the brewery into pilot project three?

Yeah. Brewery incubator for the correct term.

And so Eagle Park is going to take the name and the IP

and the recipes and continue on the legacy just with their own brewing system.

Yeah.

So this is like super exciting news here in the city and in the state.

So Milwaukee Brewing Company has been around, you know, for anybody

who's been into craft beer, it's like one of your first craft beer

beers have been McKay brewing.

So how I see this is at Eagle Park took the

smart cheaper way into this deal right.

Because you know we talked about this two or three months ago when MKC announced

they're selling at and they said the bidding started at $250

million or something for their facility and everything was that high.

It was that high. It was insane.

Because I remember you joked around about me

making a bid for $250 million, and I think I said it was 249 million.

900 is something more than what I can afford. But

but anyway, so you get this company from Chicago who,

you know, spends a shit ton of money, I don't know how.

And then Eagle Park swoops in and says, Hey, we'll take your recipes,

your branding.

You know, anything that you guys have, that's MKC.

And we're going to take it and we're going to do it

in our own facility and just kind of keep it going

and they're already brewing their beer.

It's already running through their facility and in their tanks,

and which means it will be canning quite soon. And

again, it's just a super

exciting thing for everybody in the craft beer scene in in Wisconsin.

So thank you, Eagle Park, for doing that.

Yeah, one of your favorite breweries and one of your favorite breweries.

Yeah.

I mean, Louie's demise MK Brewing is Amber Ale and it was like

one of the first craft beers I had getting into the scene and

blew my mind.

So then to find out that MK was just selling off

and they were under new ownership for a couple of years and

you know, the guys weren't craft beer guys.

It was more like a business thing.

And so, you know, this is really, like I said,

was just really good news for the whole craft beer scene in general.

Sweet, exciting, can't wait to see them hitting the shelf.

And then speaking to Milwaukee, not the brewing company, Molson Coors

Union Workers are picketing over

their lack of contract with Molson Coors.

Hell, yeah.

Take it to the man.

So Flex.

I guess if you're looking for any

Molson Coors product gurus products that might be delayed conveniently.

I'm not.

So this is this is okay for me perfect.

A bill that has been put on the desk of the Massachusetts governor

would finally allow happy hours to take place

and it is likely to be vetoed.

Sign it now.

It's not going to get signed.

I'm on Nick as a part owner of a brewery.

Your thoughts on Happy Hour.

I love our happy hour every Monday.

Yeah, shameless plug

line.

The city of Boston probably doesn't need one man.

Just they deserve it.

There will be deaths

there will be deaths.

There will be spousal abuse.

I don't that's that's not funny.

I'm not laughing.

Now. I can hear laughing.

He's probably not wrong there.

I mean, it's Boston.

I mean, God forbid the Patriots lose during halftime.

Oh, God, that could be dangerous.

Happy the city would burn.

Well, then just make it like a no.

Sunday's clash Monday night. Happy hour in there.

But then you're going to compete with New Jersey for being shitty.

There's no competing with New Jersey.

They're they're on their own.

In fact, here I'll mix things out of order.

Death of the Fox is a brewery in New Jersey, has filed a lawsuit

against New Jersey's draconian taproom restrictions.

Nick, have you heard about all the bullshit

happening in New Jersey with breweries?

I start in New Jersey. I have not heard.

Now smart.

Basically, the restaurant industry hates

the breweries there and has done their best to stifle them.

There's all these insane rules.

Like you can only have 25 events per year, but showing a football game counts

as an event. Yeah, I get that.

So if they show, if they have a sporting event on TV, they have to have it on mute.

Otherwise right is considered as an event.

Yeah. Okay. That's wild. That's wild. Yeah.

I was going to talk to you in New Jersey, but that's that's not fair.

It's all kind of insane rules to stifle the breweries.

So anyways, Death of the Fox Clarkstown New Jersey based Death of the Fox

Brewing has filed a lawsuit in the Superior Court of New Jersey,

the appellate division, over what its lawyers have called

brewery restrictions.

The issue stemmed from a special ruling.

We've talked all about it.

NJ, ABC From 2019, they started enforcing a few months ago, prohibits them

from serving food on site, prohibits them from inviting food trucks.

No way. Oh, yeah, it's crazy.

No food, nothing.

Bans on selling any beverages that were not produced on

site, including water, soda, that kind of stuff.

Death of

the Fox is the state's only combined coffee roaster and craft

brewery and was allowed to continue selling its own coffee.

The ABC has argued that the special conditions exist to quote

strike a fair and appropriate balance between the interests of full retail

license holders such as restaurants, bars and the craft brewing industry.

End of quote.

The Pacific Legal Foundation, which is representing the fox, argues

that the bars and restaurants are fundamentally different from breweries

because breweries can sell only their own product.

These rules exist only to protect established businesses

by hamstringing newcomers ability to thrive.

But they are unlawful, the PLF wrote, for one, capping the number of onsite

special events that may be advertised violates the First Amendment.

An interesting one state law also requires that agencies follow

proper notice and comment procedures when imposing new rules.

They must also submit a proposed rule to the legislature.

The NJ ABC did not do either of those things, which means the whole laundry

list of rules imposed through the ABC's special ruling are invalid.

New Jersey legislators have filed several bills

that would loosen the restrictions on the state's breweries

and are preparing to tweak the regulations.

Yeah, it's a shit show over there.

We talk about cool.

That brewery name is the. Death. Of the Fox.

Holy shit. Is cool. Is pretty sweet.

And now they're going to be everyone's hero out there.

Hopefully they come to California.

Yeah.

Jersey Breweries will.

Welcome with open arms.

Like we'll do all the collabs.

Yeah. I know.

I know a lot of businesses don't love a lot of things about California,

but if there's one thing to love, it's our alcohol laws.

Now you need to collab with Death of the Fox

to reach out to them and be like, Hey, y'all are tired. I'm down.

Let's do this. Shit.

Let's go, like, have a Hamilton duel or something.

New Jersey

have a

collab and castle then, like next week's food truck is.

Yeah. Canceled?

Yeah, that's perfect.

Oh, that'd be great.

Yeah. Thanks.

New Jersey keeps us going over there.

Well, we'll leave it on this one because I had the medicine as my beer.

I figured the ten best medicines slugfest beers of 2022.

According to the always intelligent users of untapped.

So evil twin trio's hazy.

Is there a KBC marathon in years?

Probably a last of the top five number

ten lager town from half acre brewing.

Feel free to stop me if anybody has any comments.

Number nine Oktoberfest from Paulaner Brewery.

We all know I was going to pronounce that properly.

Number eight, Spartan.

I think we've all had Spartan at any

celebration.

I've had Spartan at October 1st time.

I think they keep that on tap year round at the local dove bar in my city.

I mean, why not a bad dove?

No, no, not at all.

That's a that's a good beer to be without that.

And Francis Gardner. Yeah. There you go.

Number seven, Clawhammer October Fest from Highland Brewing Company.

Number six, Monster Fest from three, four.

Three. Floyds Brewing, right on Midwest.

Five. Yeah.

Number five, Octoberfest Lager from Drogues Independent Brewing.

Number three

fest from Sam Adams.

That's good.

Nick, what are you.

What is your feeling on Sam Adams?

Oktoberfest.

I drink this shit. It belongs to 20.

Oh, I think it's so good.

This is. This year's batch was really good.

I haven't had it a couple of years, but it used to be great.

I look forward to it. Yeah.

Yeah. It's been a few years for me.

I will say this about Sam Adams.

Not a huge fan of, like, the Boston Lager.

I don't like it at all.

But I enjoy some of their seasonals.

Like some of their seasonals are surprisingly good.

We do that.

We do the Costco Octoberfest every year.

There you go. And it's like a dollar a beer.

Yeah, it's crazy.

We have an Octoberfest party. That's the way to go.

Number two, ultimate Oktoberfest from Founders Brewing.

Yeah.

And then number one, staghorn Oktoberfest.

From New Glarus Brewing.

Dude, that total reverse

that Oktoberfest is fucking nuts.

So can I tell you a quick story about that real quick?

And it actually has to do with untapped.

Right. Okay.

So my sister in law's husband love staghorn

and I had seen he rated it a five out of five and untapped.

I said, Hey, Mike, what are you doing, man?

Like the stag horn. Five out of five, like.

And he goes, Nah, it's not.

He goes, It's about the style.

He goes, This is the best October festival ever had in my life.

So I'm rating that.

A five out of five.

So there you have it.

That that's not surprising at all.

It's good reason in Wisconsin. Represent.

And uh cheers to that.

Yeah.

Maybe make a liver review for morning watch while he's at it.

Well, we got to get him something.

I guarantee he's never had a coffee culture before.

I go. Good. Let's get him on.

Because those dicks on October fast can burn around on untapped skin circuit.

But I don't have any strong feelings about it.

This is why Nick doesn't check on Taft anymore.

No, that's it. It's. You've never bet on it.

Not in the last ten years.

Oh, okay. Well, it's on ours. Yeah.

So smart.

Yeah. Don't.

Don't follow your own beers.

It's no heart breaking.

People are dumb, though.

My favorite is like when they say something that you read

and it's inherently, like, negative, and they're like, for it's like, what?

That was like.

That was like a to review. But you gave it.

I don't know, but.

That doesn't make sense. You're right. Yeah.

Or the idiots that have no idea what they're drinking is like.

Oh, this is really bitter. Must be too many hops.

It's like, did you read that? There's coffee in it.

Did you, did you.

Did you see the fucking menu anyways?

I'll stop because this could start a whole new segment of the show

though you would probably like it because it brings us to an hour and a half.

All right.

I'm going to hit some big and we're going to get up on out of here.

I'm going to say everybody go check out the the October fest.

We had a beer.

Go check out the 14 cannons anniversary on October 15th.

Fun starts at noon, I believe noon.

Music's probably 6 to 10

fun day.

So, I mean, it is a long day.

Let's let's talk about the important stuff.

When's the headliner coming out?

Scuba kids, baby.

What will be playing around 830. Okay.

Yeah, don't. Don't miss. The set.

I said.

You know, that's good news for me.

Actually, I think I might be able to make the last set. I have to.

Well, I'm not going to talk about it anyways.

I think I can make the last set.

Go out there, get your drink on, get the the flight.

The anniversary flight. I'm excited for that.

And go tell Nick that he's got to make more aces.

And try that.

Yeah, try that. He's let us. Know. Come try it.

Yeah.

Please let us know how it works out and if there is any warning

watch left by then.

Drink the shit out of that while you're there.

Last gig. Last gig. I can't wait.

I want to be the one that kicks it better tomorrow.

And then, of course, 14 cannons dot com

and at 14 cannons on the gram, you can find us at craft beer republic

you can find flex at flex me a beer underscore is in between mail

at craft beer republic and 805538 beer it's 2337

Nick thanks for hanging out with us tonight and insurance and just good stuff.

Cheers. Have fun at GBV. Hi, Vanessa.

Yeah, get some donut and some diet.

Dr. Pepper. Go, and you'll be glad you did.

Everyone stay hydrated out there.

And on that.