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Hi, this is Stephanie Maas.

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And today I want to talk to you about references.

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This day and age, everybody still asks for references, but legally, no one can say squat about anything.

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So I think it's time that instead of taking a reactive response to reference checking, we take a proactive one.

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And here's what I suggest.

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First and foremost, everybody has a reference.

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Everybody has somebody that they can call on professionally to speak on their behalf, even in the middle of the utmost confidential search.

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So here's what I recommend.

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Instead of waiting for HR to have you fill out an application and them call and ask some standardized questions.

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What were the dates of employment?

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Yes.

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Check.

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Are they eligible for rehire?

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Yes.

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Check.

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Tell your references.

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Hey, reference.

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I'm actually confidentially, so please be discreet, interviewing with XYZ Bank.

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Tom Smith is who I've been interviewing with.

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Would you please take 10 or 15 minutes, here's his number, here's his email, and reach out directly to him and speak on my behalf.

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Here are three things that have me really excited about this opportunity, and here are two or three ways that I think based on what they're looking for, I could really make a difference or make an impact.

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Would you please call?

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Proactively on my behalf and share that information with Tom.

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Boom.

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What a difference maker.

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Again, if your reference calls Tom on his own, he can say anything he wants and they can have a real conversation on your behalf.

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Isn't that better than verifying dates of employment?

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I think so.