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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The life you want isn't hiding under another strategy, it's waiting inside the version of you who already believes it's possible. Hi, and welcome to the UWorld Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life, health, transformational coaches, and spiritual entrepreneurs.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coaches alchemist, on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible, leveraging podcasts and Substack. Today, we are speaking with Jim Fortin. Jim is a transformation strategist and subconscious reprogramming expert who helps people break free from the invisible limits shaping their lives.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Blending insights from NLP, hypnosis, and neuroplasticity, he guides clients to shift their identity at the deepest level, so success stops feeling like an uphill battle. With a proven approach that goes beyond willpower and motivation, Jim teaches how to rewire your beliefs, habits, and stories that keep you stuck, and step into the self-image that naturally

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Attracts the results you desire.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Welcome to the show, Jim. It's great to have you with us.

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Jim Fortin: Thank you for the invitation, I'm thrilled to be here, and I'm looking forward to assisting people who are listening, helping them literally just discover more about themselves so they can be, do, and have more in life.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, I love that, I love that. So let me ask you the big question, and then we will get rolling here. So, what's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?

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Jim Fortin: Kind of a two-fold answer, 100% applies to your podcast, is self-evolution. Evolve. The planet, consciousness, the universe, is in the process of evolving and shifting right now.

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Jim Fortin: And this is happening universal-wide. And what many of us do, we live from our old frames, our old structures about who and what we think we are and what the world is. That world, if you look out your window right now and around the world, all the way from Washington, D.C. to Toronto to Sydney to Milan, that old human structure is collapsing.

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Jim Fortin: So the most important thing we can do is evolve ourself and better come to know ourself.

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Jim Fortin: In my opinion.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that. I love that, and I think you're right on track. It's a matter of we're all co-creating the reality that we're getting to experience, and the more of us that can come together and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and really…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: put the world into a place, or the reality that we're experiencing into a place, pulling out from consciousness the things that we wish to have in our lives or to experience, the more consciousness gets to experience novelty, which is…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: ultimately, I think, what it's all about. It's the experience that we're going through.

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Jim Fortin: That's all it is. Life is a roller coaster. That's what I tell people. It's a roller coaster, metaphorically. It's… you agreed to incarnate.

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Jim Fortin: you're on the roller coaster, and then everyone gets on it, and then most people are like, I don't like this ride. Well, you agreed to the ride, and the ride's gonna go up, and it's gonna go down, and it's gonna go fast, and it's gonna go slow, and it's gonna be enjoyable, and it's gonna scare you.

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Jim Fortin: But you're on the ride, so why not enjoy the ride, and evolve and grow as much as you can?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I was talking with a friend of mine who was mentioning that we all agree to certain things before we come here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… and some of those things, and this may be a trigger for some people, because, you know, I think good and evil exist, and they're not… they're not good or bad, they just exist.

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Jim Fortin: They balance. You can't have the good without the evil, or you can't have the light without the dark. They must balance the yen and the yang. Please continue.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, exactly. And if you… if you want to just have all good in your life, it… it can't exist. It becomes boring, and then, by definition, it becomes bad.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You just… you just… and nothing ever exists…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: forever, in one state. It's constantly changing.

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Jim Fortin: That's the one thing that people miss. They just… we tend to take our life and put it only in the context of the current moment. So here's where I am, and I live in Idaho, and this is my home, and this is my partner, and this is my dog, and this is my kids, and I like the way that I've lived before, is what a lot of us do.

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Jim Fortin: But the truth is, the… what we're seeing happening in the world right now is an evolution of consciousness. The entire human experience is changing. We're seeing that physiologically, or physically on the planet with

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Jim Fortin: The magnetic poles are shifting. The core of the Earth is now spinning counterclockwise.

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Jim Fortin: the Schulman resonance, different things that are happening on the planet energetically, and then people don't recognize we're bio-electromagnetic beings, and being is we're magnetized to the planet, when the planet ships, it's going to affect us.

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Jim Fortin: Then look at culture and society and economics. It's all collapsing around us. Why? New world is coming. And it's gonna be a little messy till it gets there, and depending on how we manage that, but a new world is coming for humanity.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm so excited.

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Jim Fortin: I agree, I'm excited about it, and part of me also is, why does it have to be so hard sometimes for, you know, so many people make it so hard for themselves.

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Jim Fortin: And when they make it hard for themselves, they go out on the world because they're in fear, and they make it harder for a lot of people as well.

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Jim Fortin: This is what I… we are… what I heard in marketing one time.

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Jim Fortin: A guy was saying, people aren't gonna stop until they get to the bottom of what's called your funnel. And they're gonna be like, it's gonna be like a greased chute. Once you start, you're gonna finish at the bottom. You can't stop. Well, what we're in.

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Jim Fortin: no one can stop, but a lot of people, especially a political movement in the US, is trying to stop the evolution of consciousness.

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Jim Fortin: It ain't gonna happen that way. Nations aren't gonna exist the way they have. Socioeconomics, political structures are not… social structures are not gonna stay that same way, but many people are fighting to take it back 20 years ago, because that's the way that they knew it, when change is gonna happen, whether you like it or not.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: an older person, and I can… and I have… my father's still alive, and he's very, … his… he's got all his marbles. He's pushing 90, but he's….

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Jim Fortin: That's good.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: he… he's a person who's from the generation of the late 50s, early 60s. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And there was a definite, idea of how the world was supposed to be, and what was supposed to be right and wrong. And…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: those people

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's still a group of them, they're in their 70s and 80s, primarily, and a few in their 90s, but those people are still politically

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: active.

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Jim Fortin: Yup.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: world right now, and as those people leave power.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm hoping that younger people, and I'm talking about people in their 30s and 40s, will start showing up, because those are the people who really embrace the world as it is now. There are groups of older people, and I'm not painting with a big brush.

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Jim Fortin: Sure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But there are groups of people, and they're…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: not to disparage you, but they're primarily older white males who are used to… you know, they talk about male privilege? Yeah. I didn't used to think that that was a thing, and….

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Jim Fortin: What's the thing?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is a thing. Yeah. And, …

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And they used it to manipulate people, and they're still trying to do that, but more and more people are just saying, no, we're not putting up with it. And you can tell me whatever you want to tell me, but I'm just not believing you, because you've lied to me so many times.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that pretty much, if I hear it on the news, or if I hear it from a trusted source.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I automatically think, that's probably not the story.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She's my knee-jerk reaction!

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Jim Fortin: I see all that, and even though I'm a white male, I am not in that camp that thinks the world works that way. But see, here's the thing. I think many people listening, we've always known we were different from a very early age.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When I was 15, I was already reading the Rosicrucians.

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Jim Fortin: You know, and sacred wisdom and all that. And when I was in college.

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Jim Fortin: my fraternity would go out and play beer ball in the park every Friday. And I'd go, guys, I'll be out there in a bit. I need to meditate first. And, you know, so it's always been a part of me.

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Jim Fortin: My brother-in-law is… my sister's husband is a real shaman, like you would find in the Amazon.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My family has been inside Deote Wiacon for 2 nights, Cheops for 2 nights, Machu Picchu for 2 nights.

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Jim Fortin: Haleakala, Uluru. We've been at power spots on the planet during the spring equinoxes.

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Jim Fortin: My brother-in-law, I've apprenticed with for 32 years.

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Jim Fortin: He told me several years ago that up until about 1965, things shifted around 1965,

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Jim Fortin: And in 1965-ish, that's when the indigos started coming. You've probably heard the phrase indigo. The indigo kids. The indigos started coming. And then in 1980, that shifted to, from the indigos

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Jim Fortin: to what started showing up on the planet in the 1980s was the crystalline, and their higher functioning, higher frequency beings that are evolving on the planet. This is why we see, and this will… this will rub a lot of people the wrong way, but I'm going to tell you what he said. This is why

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Jim Fortin: we see an explosion of people on the spectrum and autism after about 1980. He said these kids are coming at higher frequencies. The example he gave me was, you know, I, for example, me, he's 74 now. He goes.

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Jim Fortin: People that are of that generation, if they're spiritually evolving, that is by conscious choice. People that are the indigos, they just feel called to do something. People that are the crystallines are seeing more clearly.

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Jim Fortin: But where I was going that might upset some people, he said the explosion of autism in the spectrum is because these kids are coming at a much higher frequency, and they can't handle the physicality of the old way.

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Jim Fortin: This is why they're sensitive to noise, and light, and sound, and touch, is that they're vibrating

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Jim Fortin: frequency-wise, at a much higher level, but then we're trying to treat them with our old ways, and it doesn't work that way. And we're trying to pull an evolutionary being backwards. And the final comment was, where I was going and I lost track there.

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Jim Fortin: Let's say, you know, I use Apple now, but let's say we're on Windows. We've gone through Windows 6, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 9, and whatever they're on now. These kids are coming at, like, Windows 15, and most people are back at Windows 10, trying to pull these kids backwards.

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Jim Fortin: And it's not serving anyone, and it's not serving the evolution of the planet.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can see that with young kids. It's….

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Jim Fortin: I get it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they… they talk about sending kids to school, but… and I'm… I'm like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's the dumbest idea I ever heard.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They get it. School is so useless at this point. We need to be teaching kids, you know, how to commune with Earth, how to actually grow your own food.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The… the things that you need to survive as a human being, we are… we are also beings that exist

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: On… in a realm that requires nutrition, and we're depending on people to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: give us stuff. That… that's dangerous to me, but instead of, like, herding all of these… these unique individuals into a little container called a classroom, with one person who's supposed to be an authority who

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: is… Arguably clueless about.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the world works.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To try to train these beings, it's like, just let them play.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can learn everything you know in 2 years. Need to know in 2 years.

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Jim Fortin: The challenge with the world right now, in my opinion and observation, is my brother-in-law, the shaman, and I have talked about this.

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Jim Fortin: Is he goes, these kids come so gifted, but they take it for granted because they're so gifted that they won't work to evolve and develop other skills.

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Jim Fortin: And so, they… many times, they throw away their spiritual gifts.

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Jim Fortin: About 3 weeks ago, I was hanging out with some college friends. We've been out of school now for 40 years, thereabout.

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Jim Fortin: And 3 of my friends are PhD college professors, two at the University of Texas and one at Marquette.

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Jim Fortin: And they were saying, as we were sitting outside on the deck one night, we were at a beach house.

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Jim Fortin: They were saying that they can't teach their curriculum anymore because the kids don't know how to learn. And I speculated, because I do this for a living, but I'm like, kids… I'm like, guys, what do you think calls this? And they all three said, technology and social media.

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Jim Fortin: People, kids cannot connect and think anymore. They don't know how to communicate, because technology does it all for them. So what I'm looking at is the dualism here.

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Jim Fortin: They're evolving, they're coming to the planet at a much higher evolutionary level, but they're sucked backwards by the technology and the hijacking of the brain with social media.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's an interesting perspective, but I think schools feed into that, in that they… Sure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They promote the technological aspects.

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Jim Fortin: For sure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: kids go to school and they're just put in front of a computer. I mean….

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Jim Fortin: They don't know.

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Jim Fortin: See, these teachers… that's interesting, I never thought until just now, that word, these teachers, they really aren't teachers, they're facilitators of a dogma given by a culture to, here's what our curriculum is.

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Jim Fortin: And right now, you see that… and this is not… I'm not political, even though I worked at the Carter Presidential Center, but that was humanitarian many years ago.

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Jim Fortin: We see political institutions now trying to dogmatize all American institutions. Education has to teach America's the best, and America's this, and this is all covert.

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Jim Fortin: People don't see this, but… Propaganda! Well, also, what's promoted right now is that white people are better than other people, and rich people are better than poor people. And this is all being promoted, even hidden and covertly, from, let's just say, the political powers that be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it's… and it's done through school systems, and if you take your kids out… They'll be fine.

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Jim Fortin: And then you're penalized, or if you don't get vaccinated, you're penalized, because that's what culture says you have to do, and now they're taking that apart. Yeah, so where I seek to live from is be in this world, but not of this world.

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Jim Fortin: I don't care what anyone thinks, I know for a fact, because I've had a near-death experience, I am not from this world. I am temporarily stopped over, living my time, a very short time. I'm 60, even if I left at 90, that's still a very short time.

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Jim Fortin: I'm here to contribute, I'm here to learn, I'm here to evolve, and I'm going to my next journey. But so many people get trapped in the identity, which you used earlier.

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Jim Fortin: the identity of, oh, I'm a human being, and I'm going to actually wrap myself in all the trappings of what it means to be a very limited human being. That's a very faulty strategy from my perspective.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, yep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like, I'm just…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: causes you to create stories about things that don't really matter. And you're free to make up any story you want about your past that you want to. I give you permission.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah, but we're… society is indoctrinated by media at this point. Even look at the adults. You've got a left, and you've got a right, and algorithms only show you what you look at, and then people get indoctrinated by that. We've got the greatest division

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Jim Fortin: I find it really interesting. I heard many years ago a phrase by somebody that I knew a lot of years ago, he's not on the planet, named Wayne Dyer. And Wayne said, a tree never sets fire to the other… like, branches don't set fire to the branches on the other side.

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Jim Fortin: Because it's all one. So right now, we've got lighter fluid on both sides, setting fire to the branches, not recognizing we're all part of that one tree.

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Jim Fortin: And you'd ask about what's the most important thing, it's that, when I said evolution, or evolution of self, it's the awareness that we are all part of the same

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Jim Fortin: human experience and experiment. We are all part of this, and we are here to serve, not to tear each other down.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, that's… That's my philosophy, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, I know you coach people, and how does that look? Are you doing it as… in groups, one-on-one? Do you write books? I know you have a podcast, do you want to tell us about your podcast also?

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Jim Fortin: Yeah, it's called Transform Your Life from the Inside Out. It's in the top 1 tenth of 1% of podcasts in the world. I'm ranked number 4 in Australia for education. I'm ranked in top 50 in the rest of the world for education and personal development. It's all about evolving your life from the inside out, because everything starts on the inside, the way that you be.

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Jim Fortin: I've done one-to-one coaching for many years, I don't do that anymore. I do group coaching with a program called the Transformational Coaching Program. It's a 13-week immersion program with me of both ancient wisdom.

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Jim Fortin: brain science, psychology, and I merge and marry all these things together to help people better understand who and what they are at a deeper core subconscious level, so they can change their lives.

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Jim Fortin: The group, we find.

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Jim Fortin: I've had as many as 1,000 people at a time in group coaching with me. Right now, our programs are a little smaller, maybe 300-400 people in the 13-week program with me. I coach in there daily, and the reason that group works so well is because we all crave community.

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Jim Fortin: We all crave like-minded people that are evolving, but here's the thing, when you heal, and people see something that you healed, it then shows them they can heal themselves. Whether it be depression, or anxiety, or fears, or money, or whatever it is.

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Jim Fortin: excuse me, we demonstrate the concept of social learning. We learn from each other, which is literally how we're hardwired to, you know, to learn.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it allows us to be in community, too.

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Jim Fortin: That's vital.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're designed to be in community. You were talking about tech earlier, and tech just, like…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Most people just, like, They're interacting with digits.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Not other beings, and….

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Jim Fortin: I've had 3 employees… I've got… I've had as many as 15 employees at a time on the team. Excuse me, team members, I prefer that word.

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Jim Fortin: But…

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Jim Fortin: Last year, I hired 3 young, very, very, very tech-savvy 23- to 25-year-olds. All 3 demonstrated an extreme ability to, or inability to connect.

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Jim Fortin: with other people. They were great at the digital world, but they had no resources in terms of human connection.

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Jim Fortin: And my director of operations said, they've got the hard skills, but they don't have the soft skills, because they've never had to connect with people.

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Jim Fortin: And they would… I asked all three guys, I'm like, what do you do in your free time?

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Jim Fortin: All three said, I stay at home, I work on my computer, I play games, or I spend time with my girlfriend. That was it. That was it. And I'm like, well, what about friends and going out?

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Jim Fortin: camping and all… they didn't get it. It was so alien to them, and that's the current generation, and why is this happening? Just part of the evolutionary process and plan. As far as why, I don't know, but I know it's part of

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Jim Fortin: The bigger evolution of all of us.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I… I have children in the 20… in their 20s, and I… I… I've seen…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have kids from 40 to 21, so I have a broad range of them.

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Jim Fortin: But you're a different mother, though, too, than most parents, so you probably have raised your kids differently in terms of their experience with you in early life, which has affected who they are now, when this early one is 21. This one is 21, it's probably different than a lot of other 21-year-olds. Sorry to interrupt you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No, you're totally right, but I've also seen her… the people around her, and when I….

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: bash schools.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm really bad about that, but I educated my children at home, and then I stuck them in an alternative school for two and a half years when they were 13, so they all graduated at 16. The youngest was 15 and a half when she graduated.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: getting straight A's, but they have that little piece of paper that said, you know, I have a diploma.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Which is so important in the world for no apparent reason. … sorry, my….

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Jim Fortin: That's fine, unless… I tell people this, you know, when we went to school, I'm 60, that was what you did, because you had to do that to get a better life. A lot of companies wouldn't even interview you unless you had a college degree. It's a different world.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 5. I just, like, I totally get what you're talking about.

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Jim Fortin: And the world now, if I had kids at that age now, and they said, Dad, should I go to school? I would say, well, number one, what lights you up? What turns you on? What brings you alive? Now, do you need school? Do you need trade school? Do you need formal education? Do you need, like, the school of life?

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Jim Fortin: What do you need? Because that old model, now, which is also broken, go to school.

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Jim Fortin: And dad could pay for it because I have the wherewithal, but many kids are graduating $200,000 in debt for a $40,000 a year job. Do you not see a racket happening here when

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Jim Fortin: I have made millions online. I've got many friends, students of mine, they're in their 20s, making millions a year, never went to college. It's obsolete to a large degree, unless you're an engineer, lawyer, or brain surgeon, or a doctor. Otherwise, for business and all this philosophy and history.

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Jim Fortin: Go to the world, you can learn that stuff like that out in the world.

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Jim Fortin: We're on the same page.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, we definitely are.

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Jim Fortin: Very much, St. Page.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, I know that you offer people the 9-day challenge,

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Jim Fortin: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: About what it means to be at a soulful level, unstuck.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah. We, I created that probably 4 years ago, basically as a just, you know, challenges are kind of a big deal online.

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Jim Fortin: And the average challenge is about 4 days. That one's 9 days, and I charged $97 for it when I was putting it out. We can track all of our metrics, because everything's traceable through technology. We had a 93% finish rate at the end of 9 days, which is extraordinary.

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Jim Fortin: So, what we're doing now is basically I just give it away, but I don't just give it away randomly, it's not on my website. So, for people that have been with you and are listening right now, I like to give things away. I want to give people that 9-day challenge, no charge, like I said, it was $97.

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Jim Fortin: And the whole foundation of that challenge, even though we call it getting unstuck, because most people are stuck, they're stuck because they don't know who and what they are at a soulful level. The premise in that training

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Jim Fortin: The challenge is be to have.

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Jim Fortin: How do you have to be so you can do what you need to do to have what you want? But the deeper premise is.

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Jim Fortin: what does it even mean to be? Because most human beings are not first human beings, they're first human doings. That's what they learn to do. When we forget that we are beings, what does it mean to be? Because being is the foundation of all creation, and we have to understand and discover ourself.

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Jim Fortin: At a being level. And for people that want that, you can go to, jimfortin.com, J-I-M-F-O-R-T-I-N dot com slash heart, H-A-R-T.

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Jim Fortin: jimfortin.com slash heart.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I must name.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I was looking for the E in there.

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Jim Fortin: Nope.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No E.

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Jim Fortin: No way. H-A-R-T. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Got it. Alright, we'll make sure we tell people that.

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Jim Fortin: Wait, my team, my team gave it to me. Is it H-A-R… it's H-A-R-T, correct?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's H-A-R-T, yeah.

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Jim Fortin: That's what I thought, because I did research on you, and I wanted to learn about you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What would you do? In my mind, I was… I was thinking that you were… you were talking about heart, you know, like.

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Jim Fortin: H-E-A-R-T.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and I was… and I wrote it down so that I would be sure to put it on… on the show notes.

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Jim Fortin: You know your name is Hart, right?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes!

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Jim Fortin: Yeah, no, it's your last name.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: when you get something you're totally not expecting. I think that kind of summarizes this whole podcast interview.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah, it's been an interesting experience. Listeners don't know this, but we had some… some, … we had to rework some things before we started, but as I said to you, everything happens for whatever reasons it needs to happen. And people apologize to me a lot. I'm sorry that happened. Hey, it is what it is.

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Jim Fortin: And what am I to learn from what happened, or what's being orchestrated behind the scenes that I can't see, and it needed to happen that way. I'm good with it all.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I'm… I'm the same way. Life is an adventure, and we're just gonna experience it, and you can choose to be upset about things, or you can just embrace them and say, well.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That will be memorable.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah, I used to listen to a lot of Aleister Crowley, and I know our time is limited, but he's an occultist from the 1800s.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And he said one line one time that's always stuck with me.

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Jim Fortin: Humans were not put on the planet to be beasts of burden.

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Jim Fortin: Most humans live here, though, as beasts of burden. Let me work, let me do everything physically. Forget about my mind, because we don't learn about that. Forget about my energy, forget about my frequency. Forget about my vibration. I just have to physically do things, and when I physically do things to make my money or create my life.

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Jim Fortin: now I'm a beast of burden.

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Jim Fortin: And most people spend their entire life being a beast of burden, as opposed to enjoying the roller coaster and the ride and the evolution of self.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's never too late to… Start a new chapter.

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Jim Fortin: I, I….

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you were one way last week, doesn't mean you have to be that way today.

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Jim Fortin: I've got so many stories, and again, I know we're on the clock. I was watching something from Jane Fonda, and she said that she's, what, 86 now? But about 10 years ago, she said, I see life in 3 stages. My early stage, my middle stage, and my final stage. She goes, how am I going to live my final stage?

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Jim Fortin: I'm 60. What I'm looking at is I'm not going to be on this planet forever, thankfully, and I mean, I'm not looking forward to leave tomorrow, but I know I'm going to leave, and I'm fine with that, because I was somewhere before I got here.

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Jim Fortin: But what I look at is, how do I want to live, and how do I want to be in my final stage, and what mark do I want to live on the world?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Love that. And it's really so important, we all have a mark to leave. And, you know, my tagline is, get visible. It's because everybody…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You're here for a purpose. You're… you're an integral part of the whole that it is… that is us.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Everybody matters. Even the people that you don't like, they do matter, and you are connected to them, and they're.

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Jim Fortin: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for a reason. And, you know, I… we were talking about white male privilege earlier.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they're still connected to you. They are you. We're not…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we're not disconnected. Yes, maybe the way reality has formed around the way that, Situations have evolved.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Made it so that the spotlight was shown in that direction for a while.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But this… it's shifting.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's an ebb and a flow life. It is not a standing in the middle of the stream as a rock.

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Jim Fortin: I was watching some YouTube last night, and there were two young guys, probably 22, 23, 24 years old.

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Jim Fortin: They were watching 1970s TV and then commenting on it, and they were watching something I'm sure you've seen.

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Jim Fortin: All in the family with Archie Bunker. And they were playing snippets of the episode, all the racism and the white privilege and the Christianity, and these two young guys are like, oh my god, they could say that on TV back then?

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Jim Fortin: And a lot of Archie Bunkers still exist, and a lot of the tribe that's following the current administration. To your point.

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Jim Fortin: where I work from, I don't hate on them. I mean, I'm more about evolution. Let's all grow together. Let's… a high tide raises all ships.

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Jim Fortin: But what I look at is they give me the opportunity to learn to be more loving, more compassionate, more accepting, more understanding.

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Jim Fortin: The yen and the yang, the dark and the light. I'm not saying I'm the light, I'm not saying I'm the dark. I'm a part of the component. And the other part of the component is helping me evolve and grow, so I value. And a final comment, and I'll be quiet, but in Thailand.

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Jim Fortin: The monks, they don't actually wash their potatoes.

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Jim Fortin: They put them in a big vat, and they stir the vat. And what happens is the friction of the potatoes washes the dirt off the potatoes. We are all on the planet in a big vat. Our job is to wash the dirt through the friction off from each other, so we all become

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Jim Fortin: Clean.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Fuck.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you so much for joining us today, Jim.

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Jim Fortin: Thank you, Jill.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Amazing conversation.

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Jim Fortin: Thank you, I really enjoyed visiting with you, and I'm here if I can be of service in any way, and thank everyone for listening as well. Let's go out, I tell people this, the world needs us. The world is in change and transition. The more we grow, the more we evolve, the more we can help ourselves, our friends, our family, our community, and the world, so let's all evolve.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Jim, and to schedule a consult with him, or access his challenge, please go to jimfortin.com forward slash heart, H-A-R-T,

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'll be sure to put that link in the show notes below. And I want to thank you all for tuning in with us today. If you have a podcast or you're interested in starting one, be sure to reach out to us at support at heartlifecoach.com. We love to help spiritual entrepreneurs and coaches amplify their voice and monetize their mission and offer a variety of ways to do this leveraging Substack.

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