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I might just
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tell me when you're ready dear okay
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I can move it in here there you go
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not ready
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let's try this way okay
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Namaste
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Namaste Haribol
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Haribol and may and peace be with you
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it's an interesting thing
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and thanks for coming out
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hanging with us I've been informed by the boss that uh
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I ran a little we ran a little long on the last one
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it was supposed to be 10 minutes
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it was like 28 28 whoops
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didn't feel like 28 minutes
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but you know I've noticed that about um
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engaging in this process now for almost 26 years
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and the time can um
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you get a bit of a trance and time
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time just doesn't feel like it's the same
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you're most of the time of today in a kind of trance
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anyhow so yeah
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so anyway we'll start with some uh
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garonga breathing um
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it's your first time here
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it's four syllables go Ra angah
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the length of the breath and you can see
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whose body is more beautiful than molten gold
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and just these are nonsectarian
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non sect uh names
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they're in a language that's Sanskrit
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but whatever names of god you love
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just chant those but if you want to join with us
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that's wonderful and we think at a time
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when there is so much trial and tribulation
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and pain and misery going on in the world that um
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peace starts it has to start with ourselves
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and then between the people closest to us
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and then we extend to our neighbors
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we're surrounded here by so many creatures
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lizards and birds and sheep and goats
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and it's really beautiful that all of life
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everything that breathes praises the Lord
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one of my wonderful teachers once said
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thank you
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um
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that everyone gets to share in this transcendent sound
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vibration
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and if this is your lunch break
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or you're taking a little break before dinner
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or maybe it's early in the morning or late at night
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that we invite you we welcome you to
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let's just be at peace together for a few minutes
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just settle settle down
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and that peace peace starts at home
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it starts in the heart
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and we found that practicing these mantras
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it helps bring a lot of peace into our hearts
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and into our home wouldn't you say
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yeah I was just thinking of
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the first months that we spent together
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and I was still running around like a crazy chicken
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and you kept telling me settle down
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ha ha
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settle down it's a bit of a joke between us though
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settle down I
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I need to settle down too
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but anyway it's a
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yeah so we're just going to breathe in
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thinking of the sound gongan that well
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maybe we'll do
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maybe we'll do 10 of these today and we'll
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I've got another uh
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passage I want to read from Bhagavad Gita
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but um
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yeah you can just sit relax
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take a nice deep breath in
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if the mind wonders just bring it back to the sound
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relaxing the face and jaw and shoulders
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thinking of the sound go wrong as you breathe in
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for a long time
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four more times
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Haribo
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so welcome to Juicy Magic
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on the daily with Maria and Mark
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hello Namaste Haribo and peace be with you
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so
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how are you today
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how you feeling
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if you enjoy goronga
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we encourage you to just give it a go
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and first thing when you get up in the morning
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it's really nice if you can get up a little bit before
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or around sunrise
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I know everyone has different busy lives
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but I found myself and many others
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and throughout the ages people write about those
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those hours between 3:00am and 6:00am and 7:00am
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they're really really
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really quiet periods of time
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and you know you can't always make sounds around others
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if we're in you know
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our spouse or kids are sleeping
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but if you have another room you can go to
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if you wake up in the middle of the night
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don't don't get anxious
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you know just take some time
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you can plug one ear and do a very soft
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goaranga breathing
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and you may find it calms your
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your mind lowers your heart rate
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allows you to go back to sleep or if you're up
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then you can you can do um
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you can do this as long as you want to
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there's no hard and fast rules
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and you may find that maybe 30 40
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50 times a garong
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you really sink and drop and relax into a very
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very wonderful bubble of transcendental sound
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I really like it when you play it all night
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really quiet and just really soft in the background
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we have some you know wonderful
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there's so many incredible
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wonderful people out there who
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advanced devotees and souls who are
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they've made recordings
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and they're giving music accompanying this sound
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vibration and
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you can put it on I have a CD player where it's
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you know on repeat
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it's not so good with the phone
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you know
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if the lights on or if you don't have YouTube Premium
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then the commercials come on
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it's like ah
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you don't want that so
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um sometimes the old analog way yourself
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the nice thing about doing it yourself too
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is that you can feel the vibration
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I often I really notice it here in my heart
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it said in Scripture
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and all the great teachers teach the same thing
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that the the kingdom of god is within you and in fact
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god the Supreme person comes with you
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you the living entity
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are here in the heart
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and it's what's creating all the energy in the body
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and the and the appearance of life in the body
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as soon as you leave
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the body shows its natural tendency
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which is inert matter it's just matter
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life doesn't come from matter
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matter forms around the living entity
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and the body looks like it's moving around
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this meat puppet suit but it's
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anyone that's seen anyone after they've left their body
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that body is just a just a
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only recently I had the opportunity to see my
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my father's body
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he left his body when I was away from him
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but it's nice I
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we did a lot of chanting together
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and read a lot of scripture together
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and he was a really really good man
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and I'm so lucky to have had him in my life
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but I had a video
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someone took me into where his body was being kept
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before the cremation and he uh
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he was not there anymore he wasn't there anymore boy
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it was hard though you know I
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I was very attached to him and I
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um I still miss him very much
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but this um
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this kind of meditation this kind of information
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that we'll read from the Bhagavad Gita
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and just being engaged in Sadhana Bhakti
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in the practice of love
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and devotion and service to the Supreme being
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the highest form of yoga
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the sort of the ultimate goal of all gyanis
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yogis and bhaktis bhaktas is
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is love for god so
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and knowing that he's gonna
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he's gonna go to where he goes next and and
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but every moment around us there's bodies
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we see them at the side of the road
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someone hits a cat person in a cat body
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I had one of my favorite cats
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it's just a little guy
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and someone wasn't paying attention and hit him
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and our neighbors brought him over to us and he had
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his head was caved in and
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and I used to play
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I still do of Goranga meditation all night long
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and the people in the four legged bodies
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they got a lot of nice after they've left
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anyone that's had a pet knows they
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they don't often stick around as long as
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a person with a human form
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so this human form is actually a really great
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taking off point
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for spiritual life um
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we have a unique opportunity in the human form of life
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to actually inquire into
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well who am I now
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what am I doing here
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ha ha and where the heck am I going
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oh god you know
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and and we can also inquire into who's God
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and what's he like why did he put me here
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or well that's a whole others
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we can we can do a class just on that
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we can do a we can do a um
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you can do a whole course yes
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it was on the daily but you didn't put us here
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we put ourselves here
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we chose to come here but but anyway
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so just being around this transcendent sound
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it's really nice for ourselves
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but nicely and it puts us into a peaceful state
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which then
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allows us to engage with the people around us
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in a proper way
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none of us come to this process perfect and I certainly
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meditation can help you
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remember every little thing you ever did in your life
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that was
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caused someone stress or distress or harm in in body
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speech or mind that you've done
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and that's the beautiful thing about forgiveness too
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is that we can seek to forgive
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and also seek forgiveness from those we may have heard
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or harmed in deeds of body
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speech and mind as one of my great teachers S
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Ingoinka you know
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taught through the process of the Boston so um
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so what's the topic of today
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well we're gonna read from the Baghdad gate as it is
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we were we'd read yesterday from 2:20 that um
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for the soul
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there is neither birth nor death at any time
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he has not come into being
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does not come into being and will not come into being
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he is unborn eternal
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ever existing and primeval
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he is not slain when the body is slain
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and I thought we'd continue with the the next
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2:22 is another beautiful one where
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and I'm going to read the purport actually
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because it's so wonderful
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from divine is Divine Grace
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C s Bachtiverdant Swami propod
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this is two twenty-two from contents of the gita
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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudeva
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thank you yes
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we offer our respects to all the teachers and Eishnavas
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end of Bhagavad Gita
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2:22 as a person puts on new garments
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giving up old ones
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the soul similarly accepts new material bodies
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giving up the old and useless ones
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so I guess today's topic is about death
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it's also about life which is eternal yeah
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yesterday I felt like give me a new body please yeah
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and you know
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you can we
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we're not gonna record that
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we're not gonna put the date and days on these dailies
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sometimes we record them as they come each day
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sometimes we do three or four in a day
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and then release them each day
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we hope that you don't have to binge watch these like
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like prime or Netflix you know
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where you like it's just a little augment to your day
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if you feel like watching more
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going back there's always gonna be more information um
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it's never endings
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transcendental knowledge is ever fresh
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it's alive
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it's always
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one is always deepening one's understanding of
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of it because it's it's transcendental
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it's not material material
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you know chewing the chewed
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as they say that the things
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the material things and sounds and places
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they get old
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that's why we all keep traveling around the world
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and doing this thing and that thing
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but this stuff's ever fresh
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so the purport I'll read it one more time
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the estanza as a person puts on new garments
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giving up old ones
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the soul similarly accepts new material bodies
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giving up the old and useless ones
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purport
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change of body by the atomic
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individual soul is an accepted fact
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even the modern scientists
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who do not believe in the existence of the soul
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but at the same time
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cannot explain the source of energy from the heart
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have to accept continuous changes of body
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which appear from childhood to boyhood
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and from boyhood to youth
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and again from youth to old age
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from old age the change is transferred to another body
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this has already been explained in a previous verse
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2:13
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transparency of the atomic
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individual soul to another body
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is made possible by the Grace of the supersoul
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known as the paramatma
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the supersoul fulfills the desire of the atomic soul
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as one friend fulfills the desire of another
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the Vedas like the Mundaka Upanishad
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as well as the Saphata Saphasphatar Upanishad
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compare the soul and the super soul
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to two friendly birds sitting on the same tree
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one of the birds the individual atomic soul
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the Jiva Atma
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is eating the fruit of the tree
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and the other bird Krishna
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the Paramatma the Lord in the heart
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is simply watching his friend
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of these two birds
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although they are the same in quality
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one is captivated by the fruits of the material tree
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while the other is simply witnessing
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the activities of his friend
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Krishna
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Krishna is a name of god
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it means he who is all attractive
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or that person who attracts everyone
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and of course the supreme being
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the supreme personality of Godhead
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he's all attractive he's all opulent
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all wealthy all famous
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all wise all renowned
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and all beautiful very beautiful
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the most beautiful that's why he's called Krishna
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and he's who's all attractive
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or has all the attractive qualities in full
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Krishna is the witnessing bird
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and Arjuna is the eating bird
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Krishna is speaking this Bhagavad Gita
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to his disciple and friend Arjuna
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one of the Pandavas on the battlefield of Kurkshetra
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just north of New Delhi now
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although they are friends
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one is still the master and the other is the servant
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forgetfulness of this relationship by the atomic soul
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is the cause of one's changing his position
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from one tree to another or from one body to another
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the Jiva soul is struggling very hard on the tree
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of the material body
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but as soon as he agrees to accept the other bird
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as the supreme spiritual master
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as Arjuna agreed to do
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by voluntary surrender unto Krishna for instructions
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the subordinate bird immediately becomes free
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from all lamentations
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both the Mundaka Upanishad 3 1
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2 and Svetasvetatar Upanishad 4.7 confirm this quote
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although the two birds are in the same tree
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the eating bird is fully engrossed with anxiety
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and moroseness
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as the enjoyer of the fruits of the tree
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but if
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in some way or other turns his face to his friend
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the Lord and knows his glories at once
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the suffering bird becomes free from all anxieties
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end quote
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Arjuna
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has now turned his face toward his eternal friend
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Krishna
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and is understanding the Bhagavad Gita from him
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and thus hearing from Krishna
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he can understand the supreme glories of the Lord
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and be free from lamentation
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Arjuna is advised herewith
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by the Lord not to lament
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for the bodily change of his old grandfather
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and his teacher
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he should rather
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be happy to kill their bodies in the righteous fight
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so that they may be cleansed at once
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of all reactions from various bodily activities
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one who lays down his life on the sacrificial altar
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or in the proper battlefield
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is at once
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cleansed of bodily reactions
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and promoted to a higher status of life
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so there's no cause for our junas lamentation
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you have to understand the context here
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there was a great fratricidal war
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which they were trying to avoid at every step
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and every cost of course
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the
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a proper warrior will try to avoid battle at any cost
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but sometimes at some point
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fighting and war cannot be avoided
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now there's no more righteous wars anymore in the world
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they're all political and devious by nature
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but this was 5,000 years ago and there's a great war
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and Arjuna was really stressed about it all he was
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we can also take this meta as a metaphor
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in sense for our own lives
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and that we have this battlefield in front of us
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every day you know
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we have to upkeep our bodies for me
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I have to take insulin and check my blood sugars
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it's a bit of a battle
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it's my own battle
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we all in in other traditions they say you gotta
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you know you gotta take up the cross every day
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you gotta bear your you you gotta bear your cross
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but you try to help others lift theirs
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so here
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Christian is advising us that not to get overly
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upset at the changing of the garments
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the overshirt and the
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the mind is just the mental under shirt
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they're both material and nature
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but we the living entity are eternal
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everlasting and undying
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and so um
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knowing this it can help us
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shoulder the burden of loss a little better
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according to our
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realization of these transcendental truths axioms
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I mean you saw you saw your body
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didn't you see the body of your father after he passed
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oh yeah I I didn't see him for many years
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and then I got invited at the funeral
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and the coffin was closed
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but then they sent everybody out
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and just
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the closest family members were allowed to stay
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and they opened the coffin
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I think his brother demanded he wanted to see him
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so I I was standing at the coffin
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when they opened it and I was able to look at my dad
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haven't been seeing him for so many years
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it was quite a strong experience
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but I'm very thankful for it and I would really
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really um invite you to do the same because uh
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it helped me to say goodbye
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because seeing the bodily form I
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I knew he
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he had left and when they put the body in the coffin
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they close the coffin again and they put him in the
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in this hole in the ground
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and they just put the earth on top of it
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and just I knew he wasn't there
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ha ha I knew he was gone and it really helped me
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so many people don't wanna look at the dead bodies
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and they always keep the coffins closed
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in Europe I don't know
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I think in US they it depends it depends on the culture
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yeah it's it's really strange and they say no
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I want to remember him how he was blah blah but I
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I really like this we watched it on this one show
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and there was this Ruban Ruban
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and he said he never seen a dead body before
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I've seen that body oh yeah
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and actually at the age of 19 I was in India yeah
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at Varanasi and that was a major
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like the sound of a gong going off in my whole body
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when I could see the bodies burning by the ganchis
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I still have
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one of the few analog photos I still have on my desk
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is a these feet sticking out of the flames
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and it really dawned on me that
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that's gonna happen to me
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that they're gonna burn my body
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and it made me really think about who am I
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I think it's helpful to see that the body or it's
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it helps to say goodbye
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and to realise that person is not there anymore
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that person had left
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so in a long time ago at least in America
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and before the industry of
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the funeral and cemetery industry got going
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I used to work I used to work in funeral and cemetery
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services and products for a while
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and great learning there but people used you know
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people would die in the home
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and people would sit with the body for a good day
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it was very common practice to to mourn and wail and
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and sit with the body and
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take a sponge and clean the body
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wrap it
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and then out back
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or to the local cemetery down the road
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you would bury
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there's a great hymn called
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they say
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all the Cowboy Junkies from Kansas saying
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it called to love is to bury
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it's just about you know the the cycle of of the body
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yeah I think
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it's really sad that they take the bodies away so fast
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now they just
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you know so you don't have to by law
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you know if someone passes away
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you don't have to immediately have them come and
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take the body away I mean we don't wanna
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we don't need to go the other way
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the extreme and try to preserve the
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the dead body but
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you know it is good to
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to see it for what it is and
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there's so much death going on in this world
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all the time
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and it can be a helpful
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sobering
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meditation to some degree to see
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you know
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whether you bury it or burn it or dump it in the sea or
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some places
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they chop up the body and put it on the hill for
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the vultures
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the novices in that tradition go up
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and they do that to remind them that hey
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it's gonna happen to you your body
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not you but the body you're in
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and some other traditions
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they put the bones up on top of these long towers
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they're called towers of silence in Zoroastrianism
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in Persia and parts of India
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where the bones get bleached
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and then they get swept down these long tunnels
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so whichever way your body goes
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it's a
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I think it was Socrates who was
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he had been condemned to death
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you know for being a heretic
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isn't that usually the truth
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people that teach the truth are usually called heretics
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and hated
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um
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and one of his students said well
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what do you what
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what should we do with your body
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00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,033
and he was like what should we do with you
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and he said you're gonna have to catch me
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he knew he wasn't his body
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he was gonna leave his body
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so you know yeah
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I wanna be burned I don't want any place yeah yeah
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you know where I just
566
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we have fun with this is part of our estate plan
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we actually talk a lot about what we want done
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not much you know
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I just for me
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my grandfather's the remains of my grandfather's body
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my great grandfather's body
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my dad's body are all scattered in Kempton Bay
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north of close to Barry northern
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north Ontario
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North Toronto and uh that's I just I would ideally
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you know if I pass away in Greece
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then obviously yeah
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I wanna change my my my will
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I don't wanna be scattered in the ocean
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I wanna be scattered on the olive trees please
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ha ha okay
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I I prefer noted olive trees
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scattered Maria's body ashes at the
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under the olive tree but just I mean
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try not to make it too difficult whoever has to um no
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there is so many
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there are thousands of olive trees here
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just choose a couple
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and what if you leave your body in Germany
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00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:56,066
it's gonna be hard to find an olive tree
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then you have to drive down to Greece
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you see we
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we we we have this understanding that we're not
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we know we're not our bodies and we're not our minds
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and so we can joke about it a little bit
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but we welcome you to you know
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we also know that people can get quite upset um
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we certainly yeah
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it's so funny when people say that this is morbid
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that it's morbid to talk about death
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and I'm like what
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00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:22,566
so saying
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it's morbid to talk about taxes with your account
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it's you gotta do it
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00:29:25,966 --> 00:29:27,300
so you know
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I I have my idea
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it's not morbid to talk about death no
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no no
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so why should it be morbid to talk about death
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yeah you should cry at birth if you're crying at death
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so um yeah
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for for the that birth old age
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disease and death those are the four
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suffering aspects of the material world so
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you know better to face it than to avoid it
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my grandfather he was I love my grandfather so much
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he was such a cool guy and we had a lot of fun together
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but he struggled a lot
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he was really sick for quite a while before he passed
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and I was with him by his bedside chanting and and
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but he was just crying and he was struggling
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00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,366
and he didn't want to let go
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he was scared and I'm not judging or criticizing
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but I was paying attention
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00:30:11,966 --> 00:30:14,066
I was really noticing that like
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I don't want to be that upset
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that not at peace that frayed at when I leave my
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so obviously I love to help people
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leave their body in a nice way when it's their time
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I mean obviously
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we try to keep body and soul together for the use
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for the service
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loving service for practicing our Arama yoga and
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and for advancing our god consciousness
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00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,366
and self realization but at some point we gotta let go
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you know at some point
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no matter how many tubes and vitamins
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the body by nature is
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00:30:48,666 --> 00:30:50,966
gets old and denuded and broken down
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00:30:50,966 --> 00:30:52,133
and you have to leave it
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00:30:53,366 --> 00:30:55,500
sometimes really quickly if you're in an accident
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00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:56,400
but hopefully
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you can live a life where you can leave your body
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consciously or somewhat consciously
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00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:03,866
and those around you can help you
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00:31:04,033 --> 00:31:06,466
one of the ways you can help is through hearing and
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00:31:06,633 --> 00:31:08,800
and repeating and remembering
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00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,566
either scripture or Goranga meditation
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00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:13,766
we'll teach some other
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00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:15,833
we'll offer some other meditations
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00:31:15,833 --> 00:31:18,000
we do the guitar the Maha mantra
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00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,200
the Hindu Christian mantra and japa mala on our beads
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00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,600
I will chant in your ear yeah
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00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,433
please do hold hold my hand and chant in my ear
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00:31:26,433 --> 00:31:28,200
and I'll hold your hand and chant in your ear
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00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,633
thank you and you know
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00:31:28,633 --> 00:31:30,700
hope we try to do that for every living entity
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00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,200
whether they're in a 4 legged body or a two legged body
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so um
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yeah we hope you enjoyed today gathering
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thank you for coming out
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we really wish for you peace
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freedom and joy and love
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surrender and devotion as we say that's the kind of way
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00:31:52,866 --> 00:31:55,700
the the way up is down ha ha ha
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if you humility and patience and forgiveness
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00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000
and gratitude and gratitude
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these are the qualities
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that we really want to try and develop
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while we're in a human form of life
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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,766
and most importantly
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00:32:06,766 --> 00:32:10,933
our our self and god realization actualization
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00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,566
Christian consciousness so we say peace be with you
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Namaste Namaste and Haribol we'll see you tomorrow hi
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I'm Mark and oh a stick I'm Mark
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and I'm Maria and this is Juicy Magic
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alright bye bye
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was that No. 3 no that was number four