Hey, one more thing before you go.
Speaker AWhat does it mean to create a life of alignment and fulfillment?
Speaker AHow can we blend spirituality, mindfulness and mindset work to help us break free from the cycles that hold us back?
Speaker AYou're in luck because today I'm joined by a guest who embodies the kind of deep, engaging and thought provoking discussions we love to have here on the show.
Speaker AStay tuned.
Speaker AWe're going to answer those questions and many more.
Speaker AI'm your host, Michael Hirsch.
Speaker AWelcome to One more Thing before you go.
Speaker ADaniel Anderson is a holistic success and legacy coach who guides people through personal transformations, helping them break free from burnout, disconnection and limiting patterns to create a life of purpose, which is what we all want, an alignment.
Speaker APassionate about exploring everything from pop culture to the greater mysteries of life, Daniel combines spiritual spirituality, mindfulness and mindset work to uncover profound insights into human connection and the broader mysteries of existence.
Speaker AIn this episode, we're going to discuss Daniel's powerful framework like the Legacy method and how they can help you step into a more meaningful, authentic life.
Speaker APlus, we're going to explore breaking free from inherited patterns and redefining success that can pave the way to a purposeful legacy.
Speaker AIf you're ready for an engaging and inspiring conversation that leaves you with actionable insights, you're in the right place.
Speaker ALet's dive in.
Speaker AWelcome to the show, Daniel.
Speaker BThank you for having me.
Speaker AWhat an, what an amazing journey your life has taken and where you've come to now.
Speaker BIt sure has been quite, quite the ride from being the youngest of eight children and not really finding my voice or knowing I had a message or a voice, to be honest with you, to finding my true purpose in life and now helping other people discover theirs and guide them on their journeys as they grow and learn.
Speaker AThat's a big family.
Speaker AI had an older brother, older sister, younger brother, and, you know, that in itself was enough chaos.
Speaker AI can't imagine being with eight.
Speaker BYeah, it was very, very chaotic.
Speaker BBut since there was such a big age difference, I'm 16, 15, and 14 years younger than my three oldest siblings, so things calmed down fairly quickly, but it was always hectic.
Speaker BWe had a lot of fun, though, and especially around the holidays when we would all get together.
Speaker ANow that, that I can relate to overall.
Speaker AWe have a big family.
Speaker AMy grandmother on my mother's side, she had nine kids.
Speaker ASo when we got together for family events, there was like, I don't know, 60 everything.
Speaker AKids, grandkids, nieces, nephews, cousins, you name it.
Speaker AEverybody showed up and we took up, like, the whole block almost.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was a lot of fun.
Speaker BI always love that.
Speaker AYeah, a lot of fun.
Speaker AMade for great football out in the.
Speaker AOut in the front yard.
Speaker AMade for great baseball games.
Speaker AIt made for great basketball games.
Speaker ABut you had to get in line first to get to the food.
Speaker AI will say that.
Speaker BSounds familiar.
Speaker ASo where I could start at the beginning.
Speaker AWhere'd you grow up?
Speaker BI grew up in a suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, called Wauwatosa.
Speaker BAnd house I grew up in, as it turned out, was really haunted.
Speaker ANow, that's cool.
Speaker BI, on many occasions, have seen spirits growing up, as well as several other family members have in that house.
Speaker BAnd I've had the opportunity to hear some stories from a couple people that lived there after I did, and they were experiencing much of the same thing.
Speaker AAnd I think we need to explore that just a little.
Speaker AJust a wee bit more, I think.
Speaker AYou know, anytime anybody goes up in a haunted house, we have to.
Speaker AWe have to change direction just a wee bit.
Speaker BNo problem.
Speaker AHow old's the house?
Speaker B1940S-60S, I think.
Speaker BIt was built somewhere.
Speaker BSo not super old.
Speaker BBut then again, for me, it feels like 1980 was 20 years ago.
Speaker AYes, I can relate to that statement.
Speaker AVery much so.
Speaker ASo what was your first experience?
Speaker AWhen did you first experience seeing a spiritual being or a ghost or anything like that?
Speaker BFirst time was between ages of 7 and 8.
Speaker BAnd what really seemed odd was how it showed up to me.
Speaker BAnd I always thought I was a little crazy for it, but I was coming down the stairs in the front of my house, and there was a dining room and, like, a little entryway that connected the dining room and living room.
Speaker BAnd something formed out of the corner of my eye.
Speaker BAnd when I looked, it was a black that I can't describe how deeply black.
Speaker BIt was a pair of pants, and it looked like there was a body in it, but you couldn't see the body.
Speaker BAll I could see were the pants.
Speaker BAnd they walked from the dining room into the living room, and then they disappeared.
Speaker BScared the bejesus out of me.
Speaker AI would think it would.
Speaker AI think it would.
Speaker ADid you ever find out or know whether anybody died in the house or died in.
Speaker AIn the area?
Speaker BYes, I.
Speaker BI do.
Speaker BThe family that lived there before us were owners of a bakery that used to be pretty well known.
Speaker BSee?
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BI can't think of the name of the Bread.
Speaker BJaeger.
Speaker BJaeger Bakery, which was similar to the.
Speaker BThe Wonder Bread we have today.
Speaker BAnd they owned the house before us.
Speaker BAnd they had a 16 year old son named Tim who tragically took his own life in the hub in that home.
Speaker AUnfortunate, but it also leaves it open for unfinished business.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BAnd then I'm not sure if his mom died there, but shortly after that she passed away.
Speaker BSo I know for sure that there was somebody upstairs, there was somebody on the main floor and definitely some things in the basement.
Speaker AWell, you know, as a kid we see more things than adults do because in, you know, as, you know, society and culture, for the most part at least an hour, neck of the woods kind of quashes at that.
Speaker AYou think you saw a ghost, you saw a spirit, and they go, no, that doesn't exist, or no.
Speaker ADid you tell your parents?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAnd it wasn't until years later that, I mean, I know they told me back then that I was just seeing things or imagining things because of how little I was.
Speaker BBut my mom really started becoming a believer because when we were home, and I've been home with her plenty of times growing up, obviously, and we would hear stomping around in the, in the upstairs when it was just her and I down in the main floor.
Speaker AWhoa.
Speaker BTimmy would go and steal my mom's keys or her purse and then she'd yell at them and they would show back up where she just looked a couple of minutes prior that they weren't there.
Speaker ANow that's pretty crazy that, you know, I've had a lot, I had a lot of conversations over the years with paranormal investigators and ghost hunters and, you know, anybody that's looking within that realm, psychics, mediums, you name it.
Speaker AThe fact that you interacted with that, that entity the way that you did your mother, you know, enacted with that, that entity and it listened to her.
Speaker AThat's kind of profound, actually.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's really funny because when he would make a lot of noise stomping around and she would finally get sick of it and yell at him and it would stop immediately.
Speaker AOh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker AYou know, it's, that's.
Speaker AThat, that in itself I think is an amazing.
Speaker AYou guys should get somebody like the ghost adventures there to kind of really talk to them and get them out in the open.
Speaker BWell, they're, to be honest, ghost adventures.
Speaker BThey are fake.
Speaker AOr I can refer you somebody that would love to come to your house that.
Speaker BWell, I'm really, honestly, I'm a paranormal investigator too.
Speaker BIt really sparked my interest throughout my life.
Speaker BAnd starting a few years ago, I started doing it as a hobby.
Speaker BAnd I'm on my third team now and hopefully I can reach out to somebody that lives there.
Speaker BSo because I want to investigate it myself.
Speaker AI find the most interesting part of that is typically you don't you.
Speaker AYou know, people will see a dark shadow, people will hear something going on, people will feel it.
Speaker ABut to have somebody like your mother say, give me my purse back and the purse shows back up again or stop doing that and they go, oh, oh, sorry.
Speaker AThat's kind of a new approach.
Speaker AI like that.
Speaker AI like that I should bring her.
Speaker BWith me on one of my investigations.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AI need you to talk to me.
Speaker ANeed you to talk to me now.
Speaker ANothing like a mom, right?
Speaker BYep.
Speaker AYou got to stand up.
Speaker AOh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker ASo you got, you got interested in paranormal investigation from about what age.
Speaker BI was interested obviously growing up, you know, with all the experiences that I've had.
Speaker BThere had another one where one of my friends and I were outside and we happened to look up into the attic window and we saw somebody standing in there.
Speaker BAnd it was somebody around the age of 16.
Speaker BWe could see him pretty clearly, but see the boxes that were behind him.
Speaker BAnd then that was probably when I was about 12 years old.
Speaker BAnd then in high school I've had four of my friends and I see a full bodied thing walking down the back stairs, stop, look down at something, turn around and float back up.
Speaker BAnd I can tell you honestly that we were all standing outside looking inside the house and my house was empty because my parents were in three hours away.
Speaker BSo really I've had an interest in.
Speaker BIn paranormal investigating without really realizing it ever since my first encounter.
Speaker AI think that sparks the interest in all of us that have a fascination with that or an interest in it to even explore it the way we have.
Speaker AThat's what got me into talking to people on this program.
Speaker AAnd you know, I've been lucky enough to meet some individuals that really have some amazing stories.
Speaker ASoul sisters.
Speaker ASumner had come on here, Chris Sumner and she came in and was talking about when they went to investigate mall and Ma Barker and I forgot Ma Barker's kid's name, but where they had the shootout with the FBI and, and where they ended up dying.
Speaker AAnd she went, she got into there and she was able to record and she recorded.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker ASounded like Ma Barker and her kid in there talking about how they were going to try to rush the police and her saying, no, we got to shoot it out here.
Speaker AAnd it was the most amazing piece of thing that I've heard because it was just.
Speaker AYou could hear the distinction between a Female and a male voice.
Speaker AYou could hear them getting ready, like getting ready for the cops to come in.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AYeah, it was pretty.
Speaker APretty profound, actually.
Speaker BShe's pretty amazing.
Speaker AYeah, she's done things with the Allegheny.
Speaker AWas it Allegheny Mental Hospital out there?
Speaker AShe's done things actually, all over the east coast and the south.
Speaker AAnd her.
Speaker AAnd another woman, she called herself the biker.
Speaker AThe ghost biker.
Speaker AShe goes and does.
Speaker ABecause she loves history.
Speaker AShe goes and does historical places and then ghost hunts while she's at those historical places.
Speaker AOpened a museum down in Tennessee, I believe.
Speaker BThat is very cool.
Speaker ASo what you said you've had other experiences other than your own home?
Speaker BI have.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe one that will always stick with me is I was at my best friend's house and we were in high school and we were in his basement and nobody was home that time either at his house.
Speaker BAnd all of a sudden we hear the back door opening up the screen and the heavy.
Speaker BThe heavy door itself and both close.
Speaker BHis dog at the time always barked when somebody walked in the house and would run upstairs.
Speaker BAnd she did that, but then she never came down.
Speaker BAnd we never heard anybody else at all walking around or talking or called down to us.
Speaker BAnd nobody left the house again.
Speaker BSo after like half an hour, my friend and I thought that was really odd.
Speaker BSo we went upstairs and looked, and there was nobody there.
Speaker BWe looked in closets.
Speaker BWe looked everywhere.
Speaker BAnd we started to freak out because we thought somebody was.
Speaker BHad broken in and was hiding there.
Speaker BSo we ended up running out of the house to a different friend's house and got his dad to come over with us and a couple golf clubs just in case.
Speaker BAnd we all searched the house again and there was no sign of anybody ever being there.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat is.
Speaker AThat's significant.
Speaker AI think that I told you I was a police.
Speaker AI'll retire police sergeant.
Speaker AAnd we had a place in the city that I worked in that had burned down three times.
Speaker AAnd huge hotel actually, and famous hotel actually.
Speaker AAnd by the.
Speaker AThe third time it had burned down.
Speaker AThe second and the third time there were people that had died.
Speaker ASo they pretty much abandoned it after the.
Speaker AThe third time.
Speaker AAnd they've since rebuilt it into something absolutely beautiful.
Speaker ABut we used to get calls out there all the time because people would see who they thought was somebody walking around the old.
Speaker AThe building.
Speaker ASo we'd have the cops walking around looking for somebody in this huge building.
Speaker AAnd of course, we never found anybody, at least from the paranormal part.
Speaker AWe did find.
Speaker AWe did find people that were kids that were Going in there and, you know, Daria, I.
Speaker ADaria, I, Daria.
Speaker AAnd those kind of things, you know, we're just here to see the haunted.
Speaker AHaunted hotel.
Speaker AYou know, that's all we're here for and things like that.
Speaker ABut I unfortunately never had any experiences in there.
Speaker AI wish I would have.
Speaker BThey can be life altering.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker BIt's funny because the reason I started my spiritual journey a couple years ago actually was to become a better paranormal investigator and really tap into the gifts that I had when I was younger.
Speaker BBecause, you know, being little and when you grow up, you tend to lose some of your abilities or you just block them or whatever.
Speaker BAnd so I started an internal journey thinking that it would make me get those abilities back and make me better at what I love to do, which was investigating.
Speaker BAnd it turns out that the journey that I went on went way deeper than that.
Speaker BIt led me to my divine calling of becoming a coach.
Speaker BIt led me to everything that I've been doing with the business for the last couple years.
Speaker BIt led me to write that book and get, I think, 17 diplomas and certificates in different modalities.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BMostly in 2023, and I've gotten probably five more since 2024.
Speaker BThat pretty much devoted myself now to learning to something.
Speaker BAlso weird, because I hated school growing up.
Speaker AI think we all have.
Speaker AMy grades weren't great in high school, but when I went to college, you had to pay for it.
Speaker AAll of a sudden I was getting good grades.
Speaker AYou know, it kind of changes your perspective.
Speaker APlus, I think the desire for wanting us to learn more comes with maturity and it comes with, you know, our age.
Speaker AIt evolves us into something that we want to learn and we want to expand.
Speaker AThat's quite an education you built around yourself.
Speaker BSome, you know, some of the courses have been just for fun.
Speaker BI've got a parapsychology diploma, a paranormal investigation diploma, one in cryptozoology.
Speaker BAnd like I said, those are just.
Speaker BThose were for complete enjoyment.
Speaker BI still got the diploma in distinction like I did with pretty much everything.
Speaker AWell, you know, it.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AI think that going into this hobby and turning it into something more than a hobby allows you the opportunity to utilize what you've learned in all of those.
Speaker AI've got a friend of mine that actually, his podcast called the thirteenth Floor Podcast, and they do a lot of stories in interviews and investigations with cryptoids and, you know, things like that, Bigfoot, and, you know, a whole slew of those opportunities.
Speaker ASo, you know, anytime you get opportunity, I think That's a good thing.
Speaker AThe spiritual journey that you, that you came to now, I mean, theoretically.
Speaker ALet me, let me regress just a minute.
Speaker AI know that you say you have a lot of education, you got a lot of certificates and diplomas.
Speaker AWhen you left high school, what did you want to be when you grow up?
Speaker ADid you want to go into being a paranormal investigator or.
Speaker AOr from where you're at now, what did you, what did you want to be?
Speaker BI wanted to be a teacher growing up.
Speaker BI even had my classes registered and picked out and everything and was getting ready to go to a really, really great university here in Wisconsin.
Speaker BAnd I decided to screw off one day in high school and skipped out of going to a teacher's assistant position that I was holding.
Speaker BIt was for a course credit and a paycheck, but I blew it off and went to the mall instead because I was a dumb 18 year old.
Speaker BSo my dad, who was going to pay for my college at the time, he said that if you're going to screw around for free in California in high school, I'm not going to pay 20 plus grand a year for you to screw around in college.
Speaker BSo I blew my opportunity.
Speaker BAnd after that, I ended up following in his footsteps in the dry cleaning business, which he had been in for.
Speaker BHe was in for 71 years and worked actually three weeks until three weeks before he passed away, which was two weeks ago.
Speaker AI'm sorry if I can.
Speaker AFor you, Lawson, your father, that's what.
Speaker ALong career.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BHe would have been 90 years old today, which is a huge part why I wanted to come on this podcast and talk with you on this specific day, because I knew it would be something that he'd want.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AWell, I'm honored.
Speaker AI appreciate that very much.
Speaker AI think that, you know, maybe he's with you at the moment and have you had any opportunity to try to connect or reach out to him?
Speaker BI have, actually.
Speaker BOne of the gifts I found out that I have is using a pendulum.
Speaker BSo I can make any of these dangling weights on a string.
Speaker BI can make anything.
Speaker BHave conversations with me.
Speaker BI call forward angels.
Speaker BI speak to them constantly.
Speaker BI have spoken to my father now think.
Speaker BAnd I'm so thankful for that.
Speaker BI've gotten to speak to him three times since his death and he had told me, because he was never a religious person at all, he had told me, I can't believe this, but God is real.
Speaker BAnd that's the first thing that he told me.
Speaker BAnd he said he went in peace and all he feels now is peace and love and that's how we're supposed to act.
Speaker BHe had been divorced from my mom for close to 30 years after being married for 35.
Speaker BAnd he had remarried and been remarried for an additional 25 years.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BAnd he had said to me a few days, actually late last week he came and he's like, you know, I'm really sorry for leaving you guys when I did, but it was just time.
Speaker BAnd he said, tell your mother when it's her time to go to come look for me so we can spend eternity together.
Speaker AWhat a, what a profound statement, a message, a heartfelt and hope and love and compassion that he gave you to give to your mother.
Speaker BAnd then we had a.
Speaker BHe didn't want a funeral per se, but you know, we still had a service for him.
Speaker BAnd then he said, I want to throw a party.
Speaker BAnd he had told my sisters that he was going to pay for it because all he wants is to be celebrated and to have a huge party.
Speaker BAnd if huge party it was.
Speaker BThere was I think around 130 people at the service and holy smokes, I think 99% of them showed up to the party afterwards because of the open bar.
Speaker AThat's a testament to either.
Speaker AWell, it could be a testament to both actually.
Speaker AOpen bar and you know, your ability for your father to connect with the community.
Speaker BYes, he, he really had a very strong legacy.
Speaker BHe owned two dry cleaners in the inner city of Milwaukee and service.
Speaker BThe, the.
Speaker BSome of the poorest people around in our town and just built relationships with them.
Speaker BWe had, you know, employees and former employees show up to his service customers of his for many years.
Speaker BIt's just, it was really amazing to see how many people were there that my father had an influence on.
Speaker AThat's very cool.
Speaker AIt's got to be heartwarming for your, for your soul in regard to at least that portion of it.
Speaker AAnd you know, the, the one more thing before you go is the whole reason.
Speaker AOne more thing before you go being created was based upon my personal life and my career.
Speaker ABecause I lost my father at a very young age.
Speaker AI didn't have the opportunity to say goodbye to him.
Speaker AI didn't have the opportunity to say what I wanted to say to him.
Speaker AMy mother, the same thing I lost my mother did not have that opportunity.
Speaker AI was with too many people that didn't.
Speaker AI was the last person that they saw.
Speaker AAnd you know, it was.
Speaker ACan you please tell my wife I love them?
Speaker AMy husband, I love them.
Speaker AMy, my sons, my.
Speaker AProud of my sons.
Speaker AAnd my daughters, my, you know, my grandma, my uncle, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker AAnd gave me the motivation, especially in the beginning of this podcast, was to give people a voice when they didn't have the opportunity to get to say what they wanted to say or do what they wanted to do before losing somebody.
Speaker ASo I appreciate your story in the fact that you emphasize that to the viewer, my audience, and my community, that we always have one more thing that we can do.
Speaker AWe always have one more opportunity for us.
Speaker AAnd you got that opportunity presented to you to be able to talk to your father after he passed on, so that you had that connection.
Speaker AYou got some answers from him in regard to it.
Speaker AYou were able to get some closure some more, I'm assuming, some additional closure in regard to the fact that he is in a good place.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd to.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AI mean, that's.
Speaker AThank you for doing that, because you were able to validate something my community is.
Speaker AIs always seeking and, you know, and looking for.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BSo what I've learned now really, is there's really no such thing as death.
Speaker BAnd I've learned this through my spiritual journey, too.
Speaker BThere's really no such thing as death.
Speaker BIt's just transition.
Speaker BBecause when.
Speaker BWhen the Bible had said that God made us in his image, it didn't mean this, because you look at pictures of yourself from when you're 4 years old to 12 years old, to 30 years old to 50 years old, and even more, what you see back in the mirror isn't the same person you saw at those other times, but you feel exactly the same because that you and me is inside of us.
Speaker BAnd we are our souls, and they never die.
Speaker BOur bodies may give out and may go away, but that doesn't mean our loved ones do.
Speaker BI can honestly feel my dad standing right behind me right now.
Speaker BAnd also my sister took a picture today of her, one of my brothers and my sister's son from a little diner.
Speaker BAnd coming swooping across them in the picture are just a rainbow, beams of light.
Speaker BAnd we think that's my dad.
Speaker BBecause the.
Speaker BThe sun was shining from the south, and these beams of light were coming in from the east.
Speaker BSo our loved ones, they never leave us.
Speaker BThey're always with us.
Speaker BAnd you are always with our Creator, and our creator is always with you.
Speaker BSo there's nothing to fear in life.
Speaker BIf you have any dreams that you want to go for, don't hesitate and go for them, because you're not alone.
Speaker BYou can do whatever you put your mind to.
Speaker BAnd I firmly Believe in the mantra that it's not.
Speaker BYou'll see it.
Speaker BYou'll believe it when you see it.
Speaker BIt's you will see.
Speaker BYou will see it once you believe it.
Speaker BBecause where we put our energy is where, you know, the focus goes, is where the energy flows.
Speaker BAnd we are the creators of our own doing.
Speaker BAnd people find that really hard to believe.
Speaker BBut yet if they.
Speaker BIf you really think about it and you just focus on bad things and the lack of money and the lack of freedom and the lack of time, that's Keith, that's what you keep seeing.
Speaker BSo maybe if you challenge your limiting beliefs by questioning them if they're real or not, and trying to figure out evidence of whether or not it's valid, which generally those negative things are not, then you realize that you create the negative stuff.
Speaker BSo start thinking about the positive things and the things that are coming to you, because once you know they're coming to you, and once you ask for them, they will come to you.
Speaker AI agree with you.
Speaker AI think that we as human beings are innately always are seeking answers and we're always seeking approval.
Speaker AWe always want approval from someone or somebody.
Speaker AEven within ourselves, we're looking and seeking approval.
Speaker AWe also want to understand life from the perspective of what we have and what we don't have.
Speaker AIssues, I think, built into us from the time we're children and as we grow up.
Speaker AI agree with you.
Speaker AWhen we start learning that we need to be grateful for what we have and what we are in present, that it allows and opens the door for more to be presented to us in a very positive way.
Speaker ABecause I appreciate what you said about the lack of.
Speaker AI think too many people focus on.
Speaker AAnd I'm guilty of it.
Speaker ANot, you know, as well, I slip back into those old bows like everybody else.
Speaker ABecause we're human.
Speaker AWe're always focusing on what I don't have and not what I do have.
Speaker AIs that where legacy, your legacy method, was born from?
Speaker BYes, absolutely.
Speaker BAnd has to do with learning to take personal responsibility and accepting responsibility for everything you do in your life.
Speaker BThe next phase of it, because legacy is a.
Speaker BAn acronym.
Speaker BSo it's learning to take responsibility.
Speaker BAnd then it goes into examining the subconscious mind.
Speaker BLet me go back here.
Speaker BL is for leveraging responsibility and ownership.
Speaker BE is taking a deeper examination into the subconscious mind and kind of goes into the limiting beliefs and why we think the way we do.
Speaker BG in the legacy is growing new belief systems, which is challenging your limiting beliefs and autopilot behaviors that are keeping you stuck and it will help you replace the outdated definitions and societal definitions of success, what your self worth is and your happiness.
Speaker BAnd it aligns you with your beliefs and true values and aspirations.
Speaker BSo then we go into a in legacy which is align values with actions.
Speaker BSo it's a way to ensure that you show up daily or how you show up daily reflects your true priorities.
Speaker BAnd we also get into the fact that success doesn't mean much if it doesn't align with your purpose and what truly matters to you.
Speaker BAnd then it's in that part of the program where you're going to bridge the gap between who you are now and who you are destined to become.
Speaker BBecause you every.
Speaker BEverybody here is here for a purpose and a destiny.
Speaker BAnd it's just.
Speaker BIt takes a little nudge sometimes to.
Speaker BTo figure out what it is.
Speaker BThe C and legacy stands for cultivating fulfillment.
Speaker BAnd we do that through the six human needs.
Speaker BAnd basically it's a kind of a psychological portion of the program too where you learn to fulfill the.
Speaker BThe six human needs of certainty, variety, significance, love and connection, growth and contribution in healthy ways rather than destructive ways.
Speaker BAnd why is stands for your emotional mastery.
Speaker BAnd it's basically teaches you to navigate challenges and build your.
Speaker BResist your resilience with presence and clarity.
Speaker BBecause when you become a master of your emotions, you no longer react out of fear or react from past wounds.
Speaker BYou respond with intention and become the conscious creator of your life.
Speaker AWhich is something I think we all need to try to strive for.
Speaker AYou have a passion for exploring life's mysteries.
Speaker AAnd I'm saying that out loud because I think even bringing up the paranormal and the spirituality perspective of paranormal, we all, every one of us, unless you've really experienced it yourself and have firsthand knowledge of experience, really want to know what's out there and how we fit into it all.
Speaker ADo you think that.
Speaker AThat how do you incorporate the curiosity about the universe into your.
Speaker ALike into your, your coaching or what we just talked about when you bring it there and your experiences with all this.
Speaker BWell, for me what really led everything and where I, where I try to come from is we all.
Speaker BSome.
Speaker BI'm sure all of us.
Speaker BI know I spent most of my life just thinking is this all there is to life?
Speaker BWhat is, what else is out there?
Speaker BWhat you know, I know I'm meant for more and why am I stuck in this?
Speaker BAnd that comes from our higher self.
Speaker BWho knows?
Speaker BOur higher purpose.
Speaker BUs.
Speaker BAnd you know, people may get uncomfortable calling it God, but God and Allah in the universe and the Creator and Source.
Speaker BIt's all the same thing.
Speaker BIt's in my studies, you know, Right.
Speaker BThere was an ancient text, the Dowda Ching, and then it says the Dao, which is, you know, that the source of creation, the dao that can be named is no longer the Dao, which means basically, putting a label on God doesn't make it more or less God than if you call it Bob.
Speaker BAnd also, you know how I've heard this said, too, where you can't get wet from the word water, so you can it.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker BYou're what you see in life and what you label things are.
Speaker BAre not exactly what they are.
Speaker BIt's how you perceive them.
Speaker BYou could be totally crazy and.
Speaker BAnd point at a tree and tell somebody, that's a.
Speaker BThat's a rock, you know, but it doesn't change the fact that it still is what it really is and doesn't exactly have a name, if that makes any sense.
Speaker AWell, it does.
Speaker AI think in society and culture overall, we give a designation for things just so we have a better understanding of what we're looking at or what we're feeling and what we're touching, what we're eating, what we're watching.
Speaker AAnd I think that we can accept what that is because that seems to be the societal norm, or we can question what that is, and then there's a balance in between.
Speaker AWe've grown up knowing that what's out there in my front yard that has got bark and is growing in the ground and it's got leaves and branches, is a tree.
Speaker AThat's what we've been told.
Speaker AThat's what we've always been told, that it's a tree.
Speaker ABut in reality, it's hard as a rock.
Speaker AYou know, you go.
Speaker AYou hit.
Speaker AHit the bottom of the trunk.
Speaker AIt's hard as a rock.
Speaker ASo I think that our perception.
Speaker BOur.
Speaker APerception of things can also be governed by society.
Speaker AI mean, even I talk.
Speaker AWe talk pop culture on this podcast as well, on this show.
Speaker AAnd I.
Speaker AI think that even pop culture has an opportunity to give a different perception to people.
Speaker ALook at social media these days and the messages that are being portrayed and what's normal and what's not normal with somebody.
Speaker AWhat we think may be normal and not normal, but in.
Speaker AIn each instance, somebody believes in it to be normal.
Speaker ASome people believe in it to be not normal.
Speaker ADo you think that even with that, do you think that, like, your legacy program helps us to have a deeper understanding of the aspects of ourselves and the connection to the world?
Speaker BOh, absolutely.
Speaker BThe way I run My programs, I try to, I strive to do a, take a holistic approach.
Speaker BYou know, the mind, body and spirit.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd really everything will change on your outer world once you get a handle on the inner world.
Speaker BBecause what you have inside of you, be it trauma or anything like that, expresses itself in the outside world.
Speaker BSo you know, learning, resiliency and mindset shifts and everything changes how you see everything.
Speaker BAnd that reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Dr.
Speaker BWayne Dyer is change the way.
Speaker BWhen you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.
Speaker BAnd when I first started my journey, I wasn't really sure what that meant even.
Speaker BBut now, you know, with the profound connection that I've got with guys, my spirit guides and angels and everything else, and all the messages I've.
Speaker BI keep receiving, things have started to look different in my life.
Speaker BI know if you ask anybody that, that knew me even three or four years ago, say I'm a completely different person now because of how I've grown internally and how I've gotten in touch with my spiritual self and my higher self and surrendered as much as I can up to this point to the greater good in whatever our Creator is designing for me.
Speaker BAnd I'm trusting the process because that, that's actually a message I get all the time.
Speaker BTrust the process and trust God's plan.
Speaker BAnd once you really let go and start to put your trust and faith into a higher power, whatever you consider it to be, it's absolutely life changing.
Speaker AI know that you have mentioned and some of the stuff that I have researched on you and the information that was given to me, you yourself had to overcome trauma within your life in order to reach the spiritual perspective that you are at now.
Speaker AIs that trauma outside of seeing a dark pair of pants walk through your house?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI was actually partially abused growing up.
Speaker BOf course back in the 70s and early 80s, it was just discipline or spanking.
Speaker BSome of it went overboard.
Speaker BSo some of it, you know, was from family.
Speaker BI was horrifically bullied growing up.
Speaker BSo I had a lot of mental trauma and some physical abuse and that scarred me for many years and, and led me to just believe in myself that I was worthless, that I wasn't going to make it, that I wasn't going to do anything.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI had that little inner voice in my head that would scream at me at high volumes, constantly telling me how worthless I was and how, you know, that I was a failure and just settle for this and settle for that.
Speaker BSo I settled for very low paying jobs.
Speaker BPretty much most of my life doing what I thought my father wanted me to do and what society deemed necessary for me to do.
Speaker BThen I snapped out of my.
Speaker BMy haze, I guess you could really.
Speaker BThe way I look at the movie the Matrix now, it.
Speaker BIt's almost like a documentary with action sequences because we are so wrapped up with our ego self and the way things appear, you know, and that negative feeling voice in our head that once you let that go, your eyes finally are open and you can see what the world really is.
Speaker AI think as an enemy that a lot of us have to fight is allowing those kind of emotions to be released and let go because they stop too many people from moving forward in a positive way.
Speaker AHave you been able to.
Speaker AYou and your father have been able to kind of clear the air with that and.
Speaker AAnd help you get through some of that?
Speaker BYeah, you know, I'm still grieving a lot, understandably, but I've actually, one of our conversations we had, I was able to tell him some stupid things that I did when I was younger and apologized to him for it.
Speaker BAnd he accepted my apology, thankfully, because that's.
Speaker BThat's all he is now, his love.
Speaker BAnd so I was able to.
Speaker BTo clear the air after he was gone.
Speaker BI wish.
Speaker BWish it would be.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWith him sitting in front of me.
Speaker BBut, you know, really, you don't need to go to a psychic or a medium or even delve into that world yourself to discover if you have gifts or not.
Speaker BIf you talk to your loved ones after they go, they will hear you.
Speaker BAnd if you are able to just center yourself and focus on breathing and quiet the inner.
Speaker BA hole that we all have in our head and start to listen for the good.
Speaker BYou'll.
Speaker BYou'll hear them, they'll talk back.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhat a profound opportunity that was that you had in order to be able to help clear that air.
Speaker ABecause a lot of people don't understand that you do have that opportunity after someone's past to be able to reach out and do that.
Speaker AYou just have to.
Speaker AYou just have to recognize the signs and listen.
Speaker AFeel in your heart and listen.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker AYou know, I think we.
Speaker AWe can all take a lesson from that in overcoming that kind of trauma, in breaking the inherited patterns that we bring forward.
Speaker AI believe in intergenerational trauma as well.
Speaker AI was introduced to that term about three years ago with a doctor that I had interviewed on the show, and I brought him on the show a couple different times, and I had never thought about it before then, up until the time that I'D interviewed him.
Speaker AI never heard about it.
Speaker AAnd I was a domestic violence investigator for my whole police career.
Speaker ABut in specific, a domestic violence task force.
Speaker AThat's all we did for about four years.
Speaker AAnd understanding any kind of domestic situation, whether it be emotional or physical, that kind of trauma sticks with you and creates a PTSD kind of a situation.
Speaker AYou don't have to be a soldier to be ptsd.
Speaker AYou don't have to be a cop or firefighter or doctor to have ptsd.
Speaker AYou can have it with any kind of traumatic incident that.
Speaker AAnd I'm not teaching you because you know and understand this.
Speaker AThis is for everybody that's.
Speaker AAnybody that's listening.
Speaker AIt can be any traumatic situation that leaves, that leaves an effect on you so, so badly or negatively that it doesn't allow you to function in a very positive way or move forward from something because of it.
Speaker ASo do you think that what you just spoke about, in regard to the spirituality, to listening and the talking, do you feel that.
Speaker AWhat advice would you give to someone who's feel, who has experienced that, especially with a family member or a loved one and, and how they should approach that and getting it resolved?
Speaker AThat's a long question.
Speaker AI'm.
Speaker AI'm sorry.
Speaker BNo, no worries.
Speaker BBest answer is forgiveness.
Speaker BThey need to start by forgiving themselves.
Speaker BAnd that's, that's.
Speaker BIt's a lot of shadow work.
Speaker BAnd all that really is, is examining things deep in your soul and saying the things that happened were not your fault, you didn't do anything wrong, you didn't deserve the trauma that you underwent.
Speaker BAnd it's all part of the plan, as stupid as that sounds.
Speaker BI wouldn't be where I am today if I wasn't.
Speaker BDidn't go through my traumas.
Speaker BBut basically what you really need to do, you need to forgive.
Speaker BAnd you forgive the person.
Speaker BYou don't even have to say it to them.
Speaker BYou just say, I forgive you, I love you, and I release you now and just let it go.
Speaker BIt sounds like, I'm sure some of the listeners would be like, oh, come on, that sounds really impossible.
Speaker BHow can I forgive somebody in it?
Speaker BIt's not about forgiving them.
Speaker BIt's about bringing peace back to your own life.
Speaker BBecause letting these generational things and these patterns and old traumas and old abuse and everything linger.
Speaker BAll that's doing is.
Speaker BIs holding you down and keeping you back and keeping you from where you belong and what you should be doing.
Speaker BSo the forgiveness part is to forgive yourself and also while forgiving them, healing yourself by Letting it go.
Speaker AThat's some good advice.
Speaker AThat's some good advice.
Speaker AAnd in your coaching career, has it ever overlapped into your spiritualistic perspective?
Speaker AHave you gotten messages from anybody else that maybe you were working with somebody and messages had come through or you felt a presence or something that needed to be said?
Speaker BNot in, not particularly really, but basically the messages that I do get for myself can in a lot of ways go to, towards anybody else.
Speaker BAnd that's, you know, trust the process, trust the purpose, trust God's plan, forgive yourself.
Speaker BAnd the biggest thing is the one true power in our universe is love.
Speaker BAnd love can overcome anything.
Speaker AThat's a fact.
Speaker AIt sounds like a cliche, but it's a fact.
Speaker AYou know, it's one of those statements that's been around for eons and you hear it all the time.
Speaker AYou see it in the movies all the time and see it in TV shows all the time.
Speaker ABut in reality, yeah, it means a.
Speaker BLot because yet, you know, people do consider it a cliche.
Speaker BSo they just keep on holding on to the, the hate and the anger.
Speaker BAnd fortunately, yeah, it's so it's, it's a cliche because it's true.
Speaker AIt is true.
Speaker BI never thought that either I was one of the biggest non believers and angry people that you could possibly have ever met.
Speaker BA few years ago I was lost, I was angry, I was depressed, I was suicidal.
Speaker BAnd just when I changed my perspective from the inside and forgave my inner self, that's when everything else changed.
Speaker AI, I think that everything that I have learned, what you just, that statement you just said in, in yourself, that we have to look inside ourselves and work on ourselves in order to have a, A better perspective of the rest of the world.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker BAnd there's that saying, nobody's coming to save you.
Speaker BAnd all that means is you have to do the work not on the things around you, because the things are that are around you are reflections of what's inside of you.
Speaker BSo work on the inside.
Speaker BWork on the shadow.
Speaker BForgive your inner child.
Speaker BLearn to love yourself.
Speaker BMeditate.
Speaker BIt doesn't have to be some sitting on the mountaintop chanting Om.
Speaker BIt can just be closing your eyes and focusing on your breath, focusing on different areas of tension in your body and releasing them.
Speaker BThat's how I started affirmations.
Speaker BYou know, they would make fun of that in TV shows.
Speaker BYears ago on Saturday Night Live, the Stuart Smalley, I'm good enough, smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me.
Speaker BBut once you start writing those down, you start Embodying it and you start, you know, and.
Speaker BAnd what.
Speaker BAnother thing that I do that's really helped me grow considerably is every day in the morning writing three things you're grateful for, three affirmations for the morning, three things you want to accomplish during the day, and then in the evening you write three more things you're grateful for, three more affirmations, and do a checklist of.
Speaker BTo see if you've actually accomplished any of your goals.
Speaker AThat's some really good advice.
Speaker AI think that comes a little bit with journaling too.
Speaker AI think writing those down like that.
Speaker AI think it also gives us an opportunity to understand the benefits of journaling and writing down, not just the affirmations, but in what you're grateful for, which I think is extremely important.
Speaker AWe said that earlier.
Speaker ABut be grateful for where you have and where you're at because there are others.
Speaker AYou may not love the house that you're living in, but there are people out there that don't live under a roof.
Speaker AYou may not like the food that you're eating, but you have food in your stomach and there are people that don't have it.
Speaker ASame thing with your job.
Speaker AYou may not like the job that you're in, but there are thousands out there who don't have one.
Speaker AYou have to be grateful for where you're at and what you have in life before more can come to you.
Speaker AJournaling, I think is important because it allows us.
Speaker AI'm just asking for an affirmation in regard to this.
Speaker AIt allows us to kind of get our feelings out, whether they be negative or positive, to release them.
Speaker BFor sure.
Speaker BThat's absolutely correct.
Speaker BPutting them on paper turns them into a reality.
Speaker BYou know, it turns the, the energy of your thoughts into a real thing in, in black and white, basically.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI think thoughts are.
Speaker AThoughts can be dangerous to ourselves, I believe.
Speaker AAnd you mentioned earlier about you constantly thought yourself your self esteem wasn't where.
Speaker AWhere it needed to be and where it should be as an individual and a human being.
Speaker ABruce Lee, I love one of his philosophy quotes is that, you know, you never call yourself ugly.
Speaker AYou never tell yourself something you can't do.
Speaker ABecause if whatever you tell your body, your ma.
Speaker AYour body listens to you should always tell your body that you're beautiful and that you're happy and that you're, you're, you know, you're being positive and, and treat it that way.
Speaker ATreat it with respect.
Speaker ATreat it with the fact that whatever you say to your body, your body's going to listen.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker AWe could talk for another hour, but this hour went by really fast.
Speaker BSure did.
Speaker ASo you'll have to come back on.
Speaker AWe'll have to have some more.
Speaker AWe'll have to have some more conversation.
Speaker AI think that we got some more.
Speaker BTo talk about would be an honor.
Speaker AI think we'll have some fun.
Speaker AWe can expand a little bit more.
Speaker AI think.
Speaker AI think it would be good.
Speaker AIn the meantime, let's tell everybody how they can get to you, how to find your book.
Speaker AAnd I know you got some coaching programs, some one on one programs and how to find your website, please.
Speaker BYou can go to my website.
Speaker BMy book is called Stay Focused and Move with the Universe and it's available on Amazon as a hard copy, a softcover or even a Kindle.
Speaker BAnd if you have any questions about any of the other programs that I have, you can send me an email@danielachdanielanderson.com and if you want more information on spiritual growth, you can check out my YouTube channel.
Speaker BJust search up the symbol the Soul Searchers Society.
Speaker AAnd I'll make sure that all of those are in the link in the bio and on the webpage that's specifically built for our episode.
Speaker AIt'll be all in there so they can find you quick and easy.
Speaker ADaniel, thank you very much for coming on the show.
Speaker AI really appreciate your wisdom, your experience, your.
Speaker AYou gotta go out and find some more spiritual ghosts and, and some more things that we can, you can bring back to me.
Speaker BI'm hoping to do so soon.
Speaker BWe're gonna be going on a few investigations coming up in the next couple months.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker ASo I'm looking forward to the evidence.
Speaker AYou'll have to keep me, keep me updated so I can, I can follow you in regard to your journey with that.
Speaker BSounds good.
Speaker AOutstanding.
Speaker AThis is one more thing before you go.
Speaker ASo before we go, do you have any words of wisdom you can share?
Speaker BWell, just stay focused, trust the process.
Speaker BKnow that when you ask for things, they're going to come.
Speaker BIt's just the matter of what we consider to be time and what the universe's time really is, which is now, are completely different.
Speaker BSo when the time is right, when you get, you will get what you ask for.
Speaker ABrilliant words of wisdom.
Speaker AI think we should all take heed to that.
Speaker AAgain.
Speaker ADaniel, thank you very much.
Speaker AI'll make sure everything's in the show notes and on the webpage.
Speaker AI hope you have an absolutely wonderful day.
Speaker BThank you.
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