Janice Porter: Hello, hello and welcome to this week's episode
of relationships rule. I'm your host, Janice Porter, as usual
and I have a very special guest all the way from Cyprus. This
week, her name is Noemi Baris, I should have checked that before
I said it. No, me I got your first name, right. I know that
sort of No, I mean, there is. And we have met a couple of
times. And again, as I've said, so many times, I met No, me on
LinkedIn. And I just keep repeating that it is a place to
meet good people. So I'm very excited about that. And first of
all, welcome to the show.
Noemi Beres: Thank you so much for having me today. I really
appreciate that.
Janice Porter: You're very welcome. So I know that, that
you are a an entrepreneur, that you have your own business and
your business is all about podcasting. It's a you're the co
owner of the podcast connections, booking agency,
correct? Yeah, correct. So tell me a little bit about what you
do. And tell my audience you know, what you do and how that
all works in your world of podcasting?
Noemi Beres: Yes, thank you. So we have entrepreneurs to connect
to quality podcast shows and enrich their lives through
connections. It's we operate like a PR agency and just solely
focusing on podcasts and podcast interviews worldwide. We work
with mainly podcasts from the US, Canada, UK, sometimes
Australia, New Zealand, very few cases, because I find the
difference. It's
Janice Porter: crazy, right? Absolutely. Yeah, it's where you
are right now.
Noemi Beres: It's 7pm. It's past 7pm. Yeah.
Janice Porter: So it's nine. Is it? Is it? Is it what day of the
week? Is it? Thursday? There are Yeah, it's Thursday. Yeah,
Thursday. Okay. See, I never know. Okay. So, um, so
podcasting has become like, cool. It's just, you know,
exploded, right. And so there are, of course, a lot of podcast
booking agencies out there. I get pitched all the time, by
people, I have no idea who they are they, they say they've
listened to my podcast, but I know by their comments in that
thing, they have no idea because they'll send me people that
don't even make sense for me, okay. So when I come across
someone who takes the care and really looks for that
connection, and says to me, as you have on a couple of
occasions, I think I have someone that would be a good fit
for your podcast. It's that know, like, and trust. Once you
get some, excuse me, once you get somebody introduced to you
by someone like you, and it's a good fit, okay, now you open up
a little bit more now you you trust what they're doing, and
that it's working. And you build relationship as I have with you
with the agency person, because you want good people and you
don't want all these, you know, flaky people that send you weird
content, and there's no heart in much of what? So, so because I
know you do differentiate? How do you differentiate? How does
your agency you know, stand out amongst that, that sea of people
that send me people? That's
Noemi Beres: a great question. And nobody asked me that
question before. It's all about human connections. I mean,
that's just so important, just connecting with people. And when
I connect with a host, I really want to get to know them, not
just pitch someone and you know, just get money or whatever,
because the clients are paying me to do that. I really want to
know you. I really wanted to know Jenny sporter Hoon Shan is
forgeries. I wanted to know more about what you do about your
business about your podcast. And yeah, it just starting some kind
of relationship with the hosts. Because once we established that
we trust each other, as long as we have trust, we can, you know,
we can work together in the future for many, many years to
come. And I'm lucky to say that, like, there are so many great
podcast hosts in the world out there that I know and I work
with, like every day, and I just love working with them. They are
just so important. My life and they are as important as my
clients because like, yeah, it's it's an important
Janice Porter: it's it's probably really important that
yeah, the right connections for your clients because they've
invested their time and money with you. And so you know, you
want to get it right and I totally get that. So now I
forgot the question I had in my head
template, it was a good question too. And it completely went out
of my head. It'll come back, so I'm not going to worry about it.
But oh, well. So when you're looking to make those
connections like that, With Me podcast hosts, what are you
looking for? As a good podcast? What are you seeing as, and I
don't mean, you know? Well, whatever that means to you, you
know what, what constitutes, you know, podcast hosts worth
pursuing.
Noemi Beres: Right? It's always about quality, obviously. And it
doesn't necessarily mean quantity. Some, some guests and
some of my clients, they just want to be on podcast, they have
like 150 episodes and 95 ratings. And you know, they have
very, very specific expectations about the host. But what I found
in my job that there are so many great, like smaller particles
out there, too, that are quality, but they are niche. So
they are in a certain niche, but they're doing an absolutely
amazing job. And it doesn't really matter how many episodes
they have, as long as they are in your niche. And they are,
they are great, and they have value, and they give value to
their audience. And it's just so important. Obviously, when we
were checking out podcasts, we use listened nodes. So we can
see what podcasts are in the top five, five to 10%. And we
usually work with those podcasts, and podcast host. I
mean, they have to have like the stick to like a certain number
of episodes, obviously, that's important. So someone just
starting out, and they have like five episodes, we can't really
work with them yet. We keep an eye on them. And we'll see. And
they check back and we listen to them. So you know, how, what are
they doing? How good they are. And to be honest, sometimes I'm
the guinea pig. And if the niche is fine, I'm just going to show
and I check them out. And it's a great way to test them. Because
it's fine for me. I don't you know, I know. That's okay. And
yeah, it's a good thing to test out the podcast. But obviously,
I can do that with all the podcasts that I'm sending my
hosts. But yeah, I mean, I think it's quality before quantity for
sure. And it's not about numbers, not about downloads not
about just listenership because that's not all. It's important.
But that's not all.
Janice Porter: Yeah, definitely. I think I agree with you. And
you can tell I'm not 100% Today, I was just sharing earlier that
I sprained my ankle. I'm not on top of my game today. But what
do you think? Oh, I was gonna say so. Yeah, I think when
somebody is new, I think you have to see if they're being
consistent if they're gonna last right for a while before, you
wouldn't invest your time in that because I am actually quite
proud of the fact that I haven't missed a week and I'm at, I'm in
three years now. So I
Noemi Beres: think, congratulations.
Janice Porter: I love my podcast, because I love talking
to people and interviewing people and use. One thing that
you know about me that I have always done is I don't go in
blind with my podcast guests. I like to talk to them first. Not
because I want to plan the podcast, but because I want to
build some rapport and feel that it's a good connection for me,
otherwise, it's not going to happen. And nine times out of 10
It's been pretty good. That you know, I've had the odd one that
I've felt, maybe I was afraid to say no, but I earlier on but but
it wasn't a comfortable situation. And you can usually
tell if that happens. I've never sort of not published or aired
an episode. But I know people do that if it doesn't work out in
their favor. Have you ever had that happen with, with, with
people you've placed on podcasts
Noemi Beres: once or twice? Rarely? Very rarely. I mean,
they usually they usually it happened, for example, the
podcast stopped that was more often that like a podcast just
stopped operating. And, you know, something happened in the
hosts live. And they just they couldn't continue. Yeah, that
was like, I didn't really have that once or twice. I think it's
sometimes it's not because of the quality of the guests
reasons. I don't know what happened. And sometimes it can
be anything. Yeah.
Janice Porter: So do the majority of people you talk to
do what I do or not, like have want to have an intro?
discussion because a lot of I've been when I've been a guest on
podcast, he just send me a form and you know, away we go. And
that doesn't do it. For me.
Noemi Beres: It's like 5050 like some post, they just want to go
straight on the show and they just do the interview. They
don't have time. And they just do that and there are holes that
I know a lot and they do pre course all the time. So as a as
an agent is a bit it's a bit of more work. Of course you have to
organize like it's two times like you'd had you have to
organize a pre call then you have to organize the injury you
but I completely understand your point of view but because it's
just so hard that you meet someone at the first time
obviously because we met before and we had Chad before So it
just easier but like somebody just coming to you and say,
Okay, let's start start talking about something. Yeah, I, I
would say it's important to have that common vibe and just just
get to know each other a little bit just like 10 minutes. 15
minutes. It doesn't have to be long. Yeah,
Janice Porter: usually, you know, right away anyway. Yeah.
So when you're priming your clients to be a good podcast
guest, what does that look like? What makes what it what would
you say the top three things are for being three, five things,
whatever, for being a really good podcast guest from your
perspective.
Noemi Beres: First of all, if you're a great good guest, great
guests, you have to do your research, you have to listen to
that podcast, at least one episode before your interview.
If you have time, do it like more and leave a review. And if
that's important, and but try to listen to the episodes, try to
get familiar with with the style with the vibe of the topics and
just just how they operate, how the hosts operate. It's so
important, because everyone has a different style. And someone
can be like free flow, the other host can be like very strict,
and we're just focusing on certain questions. So yeah, just
check it out. And which is the second thing is, which is really
important. It's like come always prepared, don't wing it. It's
like, even if you are a seasoned guest, I mean, prepare yourself.
And I always do that, like every single, before every single
interview, I try to get ready, like mentally, emotionally, just
get into this space, and I'm going to have an interview, I'm
going, I'm not going to focus on my work today, like not today,
just for that hour, or just before, like 20 minutes. And I'm
just focusing on the particular interview, because I owe that to
the host. I mean, you I you know, you've spent a lot of time
and energy on these episodes. So let's do that. Let's do the
same. And I think it's really important, then why you under
Show speak, clearly be engaging, not too stiff, and just try to
be conversational and friendly. As if nobody listens to that
podcast, just to have you there. And just having a conversation,
like you know, in a cafe or you know, wherever you are, just be
engaging, and just try to just enjoy that conversation, because
that's the most important for both of you. Then, obviously, be
respectful with the host, and don't use the host platform, the
podcast as an advertisement for your product service book
everything. Yeah, there are no, I know.
Janice Porter: Wow. Yes. Very interesting when that happens,
right. But yeah, so those are, that's really good advice. But I
agree that I like to sort of set this the scene for myself too
first, and just, you know, do a little bit of last minute,
looking at your LinkedIn profile looking right, right, looking at
the notes that that I've made as sort of getting into the zone
before, before the call today. I was nursing my ankle but but I,
I was actually fascinated by the fact that you are a linguist and
I want to talk about that. If I could I know that's not your
world now. But I remember being so long time ago, but I remember
taking a course at university on linguistics. Who does? Like
nobody? I know. You and me. Yeah, well, it's been a long
time ago. And but language fascinating etymology.
Fascinating, fascinating. And, and, and sometimes, like, I'm a
real jeopardy fan, I watched Jeopardy every night. And you
can, you know, you can get an answer by just looking at the
word or getting a sense of, you know, where the word comes from,
or whatever. And so what drew you to being like, what was that
all about? When you became a link? You got a master's degree
in Danish literature? Because you went school in Denmark?
Correct.
Noemi Beres: You're in school in Denmark, but I completed my
master's degree in Hungary in Budapest. Yeah, so it's like,
that was just like, that was I was an exchange student in
Denmark when I was a teenager. So that was before University.
Yeah, that's actually goes back to my story. Because I was I
became an exchange student when I was 16. So I spent an entire
school year in Denmark in like, went to Danish High School,
lived with a Danish family. And that was before when we use
internet and emails and zoom and you know, whatever. We just had
phones and stuff, like landline, not mobiles. And I'm old. And so
I stayed there for a whole year. So I learned Danish. I was
fluent in Danish by the time I got back to Hungary, so I had
all kinds of language exams
Janice Porter: and different language, just like yeah, it is
See
Noemi Beres: I compared to Hungary and it's like, we are
like different parts of the world and, like language wise as
well, linguistically as well. But it was really fascinating. I
mean, Danish is a very strange language for sure. It sounds
like, yeah, no offense to Denmark, but it sounds weird,
but because it's like part of my heart, it's like, whatever, it
always stays in my heart. But it's a strange language for
sure.
Janice Porter: My mother in law was Danish. And you know that.
Noemi Beres: And I also learn Swedish, so I both because I, so
that was like, very easy to learn. And then I understand
Norwegian, because of the other two, I can speak. They're
similar. So they're very similar. They're like
neighboring countries, and they had just one language group. So
it was really, it was easy to learn. So it was fun. So you
went to just you get one master's degree, but then you
understood the other end. I studied, I wanted to study
Swedish. And then yeah, and that was like a strange choice. And
my dad wanted me to be a lawyer or doctor, whatever. But then I
told him, You know, I want to study Danish linguistics. And
it's like, there were about like five girls, including me, in our
group. And I mean, there was there wasn't a huge interest,
you know, to do that course. But I enjoy that. And I had a great
time. And it was really interesting time on my life. I
went to like, spent like five years in Budapest in the
capital. So yeah, unfortunately, right now, I don't really use
Danish, but obviously still with me. And I love reading Danish
books of watching movies. And it's fun. And there's
Janice Porter: a lot of actually here. There's a lot of Danish,
really good Danish programming on Netflix. Yes,
Noemi Beres: yeah. Amazing movies. Yeah, I love them. Yeah.
And I just watched them, like in the original language. And like,
I didn't know, it just flies me back to the old times. It's
like, Ah, I missed that. Mark.
Janice Porter: That's fantastic. Because people in North America
do not learn languages, the way Europeans and do and you know,
I'm always in awe of people that speak so many different
languages. I think it's amazing. I speak English. That's it. I
mean, I took French and Spanish in school. But can I speak it?
No, I could maybe read some of it. But that's about it. But I
wanted to, I don't know if I did this before. But I wanted to
share with you this book that I absolutely adored. And it's
about grammar. And I don't know if you ever got into grammar. If
linguistics
Noemi Beres: doesn't Yeah, yeah, we had to Yeah, we had.
Janice Porter: This is a book is it written by a British woman? I
think it's called Eat shoots and leaves. Did you ever hear it?
No,
Noemi Beres: I didn't. But I would love to read it. If it's
about linguistics, or anything.
Janice Porter: I'll show it to you off here because it's over
there in my queue. Oh, my gosh. Quite funny. Actually. It's
quite funny. But anyway, I love language and words. And so I was
too. Yeah, I got Did you ever think of becoming like,
international translator or anything like that when you were
younger?
Noemi Beres: At one stage of my life. But what I figured out
I'm, I'm not really interested in that you really have to focus
on translation, and it can be really dry to do translation
work. And plus After university I like I applied for so many
jobs in Hungary. I did you know, I they didn't really want me
anywhere. And then that's why I ended up abroad first in Denmark
then in Ireland. And I, yeah, yes. Yeah. For seven years. I've
been living in Ireland for so many years. And it was it was a
beautiful place. And you know, there's, again, a special place
in my heart. Although it's too cold for me. I had to decide to
move to Cyprus in 2011 So it's going to be like 13 years in
2024
Janice Porter: Yeah, fantastic. Now I don't know anything really
about the island of Cyprus? I'm sure it's beautiful. Because it
is beautiful.
Noemi Beres: Yeah, it says tonight it's a divided Island
occupied by the Turkish army like a Turkish on the other part
so it's like the capital Nico Zia is divided. And so is the UN
troops are still there and but it's like it's it's peaceful and
everything, it just we are in the Greek part, and there's the
Turkish part. I see.
Janice Porter: Okay. Fantastic. So, the other thing I have to
ask you about which is again, totally unrelated is about your
the collages that you do so your crafts person as well. Right.
And you played the drum, the FRIS hang and frame drum what is
the hanging frame drum? Is it Hank
Noemi Beres: is Hank is a handpan it's like a metal No no,
you have to like put it down because this huge like they are
big. Oh like a metal pipe drum like it's a steel drum. It's
just to the drum. Yeah, it's not metal steel. Yeah, it's a steel
drum and they are pretty big and heavy and I got it for my 40th
birthday from my Mom, it was a birthday gift. So I, you know,
we're just so happy that they're quite expensive. So my mom was
like, I want to buy it for us like, Oh, thank you. I love it.
So I have it here actually in my office. And the frame drum is a
frame drum that you hold, and it's like a big frame drum and
they
Janice Porter: say you're like feeding it this way.
Noemi Beres: I do. It might have been my hand by my hands. Okay,
yeah, yeah. Well, you hold it, there's like a little thing. You
can just Yeah. And it's like, perfect stress release. Relief,
if you like, Yeah, after a hard day, or during the weekend. I
love doing it. And it can be really loud. But we have only
one neighbor. So that's fine. He's okay. Or
Janice Porter: just some women have multi talents. I love that.
Thank you. So I know I didn't, you weren't expecting me to ask
that stuff. But those are the things that interests me the
things that that are no, I
Noemi Beres: have never said that. I'm always like, it's not
only about word, but like, that's what beers is off. It's
like a puzzle puzzle pieces. And that's like, yeah,
Janice Porter: so. So let's go back for a minute to podcasting.
And let me ask you this. Where do most of your clients come
from? Do they come from like me LinkedIn? Or do they come from
you from referrals? So they come from networking events you go to
online, or what?
Noemi Beres: It's now is word of mouth and referrals. Obviously,
at the beginning, when we started our business in 2020, it
was all about cold pitching cold emails, calling the messages.
That's how we started. I mean, we didn't have any connection in
the podcast booking world. I didn't know anything about it.
So it was I, it wasn't an easy way to learn it. But it was fun.
And now referrals word of mouth. And I have to say and I have to
talk about I always do. I talk about the Go givers and bobbers
community, because a lot of my clients actually they come from
the community. We I you know, I joined the community, the Go
givers. That was in June, I think. And since then, I just
really became like an active member of it. And I enjoy every
moment and every meeting we have. And people just started to
you know, this is wanting to work with me. And I'm just so
happy to have them in my in my life because they are amazing
Janice Porter: plastic. That's fantastic. So Bob Berg, who
wrote co wrote the Go Giver back Yes. Seven who isn't a gentleman
who actually was a guest on my podcast. I know that I listened
to that interview. It was just so special. And I've wanted to
have him on for a long time. And it took me I guess it wasn't
meant to be until it was right. And because another gentleman
who's been on my podcast twice Mark given who's a wonderful
man. And he mentioned, Bob, and I said, you know him? And he
said, Well, yeah, I do. I haven't talked to him for
awhile. I said, Would you introduce me? I'd love to have
him on the podcast. He said, of course. And that and it happened
like the next week that I spoke to him. So it was it was really
cool. So I I'm interested in looking forward to checking out
that station with you, because he's just got the right heart,
you know, and so the people that were there that are there, I'm
sure do too. So that's really cool that you've established
yourself as, as the the podcast person to go to the go to person
there. And I think that's great. You I saw a quote that you did
the other day that said, podcasts are fuel for the
curious mind. Yes. So what I'm going to there's a couple of
things. I want to ask about that. But first of all, what do
you do you only listen to podcasts that you know you're
trying to find a place for your clients? Or do you have any
favorites that you listen to just for just because? Because I
usually
Noemi Beres: usually it's work, obviously, because I check them
out. And but I do have one favorite one. And I started to
listen to this podcast. I don't know if it's running right now
because I haven't listened to it for a while. But it's about
music. I love music, and I love drumming and music is my go to
thing when I'm sad when I'm happy, whatever. And there's
like a musician called Josh Klinghoffer. He was the
guitarist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And I and he started a
podcast during the pandemic. And he was talking about music. He
invited his friends. And then they actually showed very unique
music and they actually played them during the interviews. And
that was so fascinating. And I loved it because that was
unique, really unique. But I have so many favorite interviews
and so many favorite podcasts also I could then listen, and I
could listen to them all day long.
Janice Porter: So I just heard some great news because my
favorite podcast was Julia Louis Dreyfus, his wife,
Noemi Beres: I remember you said that Yeah,
Janice Porter: well I saw on on Instagram that she won podcast
of the year somewhere. And there is a season two coming. So I'm
pretty excited in January, I think because she is just
hysterical. And interviews, women who she believes are wiser
than her because they're older than her generally and that and
she's 62. So there's some really interesting, wise women that she
interviews and she really does her homework as a host. I'm so
impressed with what she does, because she's got producers that
feed her stuff to, you know, while the research for her, but
she has to do it, or she'll watch their movies or because
you're all famous, or read their books or whatever. That's
fascinating. And so I'm I like to listen to podcasts, sometimes
based on listening to the host, and how they the questions they
asked her the way that we operate. So it's kind of fun.
But yeah, there's so many now it's loads
Noemi Beres: of them, like 3.5 million for I don't know, it
just growing numbers.
Janice Porter: So you may have noticed on the sheet that I sent
you that one of the questions I like to ask my audience is about
curiosity, not my ideas, my guess. And that's what I want to
come back to with that podcasts are fuel for the curious mind.
So do you believe that curiosity is innate? Or is it learned?
That's part one? I've answered that first.
Noemi Beres: That's a very interesting question.
Janice Porter: And there's right I mean, it's I know,
Noemi Beres: I think it really depends on how you grew up and
what kind of family you have, because my mom was like, a
kindergarten teacher. And she always like, helped me to being
curious and, and to teach me how to learn things. And I always
keep learning things. So I don't know if it can be learned, if
you are with the right people, and especially with kids,
because kids are innate, like from the beginning. And we are
like that, but there may be around teenager age, we just
lose that kind of interest in everything. But I noticed with
my son, like he loved reading and I was just like, Okay, can
you read this page? It's like, No, I don't. So it's like, yeah,
that kind of curiosity stops for a while. But then I don't know.
It's like, I for me, when I'm I'm 44 this is not a secret
about anything. But I'm, like, more curious than ever. So I
don't know, it comes with age, and I don't know what's going
on. But it's still innate. And it can be learned to which just,
you just have that kind of urge to learn new things. And, and
when you're an entrepreneur, you need to do that. I'm doing that.
I've been doing that since 2007, since I became an entrepreneur.
So it's just continuous learning, and continuous
curiosity of new things. And like now AI or, you know,
changing how to train GPT to, to do the prompts. And it's just so
fascinating. I had a conversation with a host
yesterday about that. So it was like, wow. So I
Janice Porter: Yeah, totally. Okay, so part two is what are
you most curious about right now?
Noemi Beres: I think that's that's the thing that's like
change GPT and how to train it, how to help my work, and still
trying to stay original. And not to lose my identity. I use Excel
GPT. So it's kind of yeah, that's, that's the way I found.
Janice Porter: Fair enough. Okay, so that's, that's always
fun to find out what people think about that. I've actually
done a little bit of a, I had to I did an article on curiosity.
And I started to look back at how many people that I
interviewed said one thing and how many have said the other and
it's kind of 5050. So it's, it's
Noemi Beres: absolutely, Oh, yeah. And this was one more I
was really curious about about my ancestors. And I just had
done an Ancestry DNA test a couple of weeks ago, and I got
the results last week. And I was like, Estonia is just like, what
it was. It was really fun. Like, it turns out, I'm Hungarian,
like, you know, I was born and raised there and only 1% less
than 1% Hungarian. And my origins go back to Maldivian and
Ukrainian, Greek and something from the Balkan. It's yeah, it's
fascinating. That's the kind of curiosity is like, where, where
did I come from? It's like, where I'm from, like my
ancestors from so that's
Janice Porter: very, very interesting. So what's on the
horizon for 2024? For you?
Noemi Beres: 2024 will be a very busy year, and I started to work
with a business coach this year. And I actually met her through
one of our networking group and she's amazing. She's from the
US, but she lives here in Europe, and we're just working
on my plan is to working less in the business and working on the
business and I think I'm on the right I pay right now. So I can
free up my time. And I can organize a masterclass or
workshops for for people who want to be podcast guests. And I
just want to give my knowledge and share the knowledge with
them. And that's why it's important to just restructure my
business right now. So it's a big work. And it's very, it's
hard, but it will worth it. And yeah, that's why looking for it
and
Janice Porter: having people do the research for you to find the
hosts and lists. Yeah. And then yeah, working
Noemi Beres: with a virtual assistant already for two years.
So she's pretty good at that. But we still need a couple of
people on board. So we're expanding. Yeah, it's a very
interesting phase of the business. It's very exciting to
Janice Porter: Yeah, that sounds exciting. And do you see a book
in your future? Or a podcast of your own in your future?
Noemi Beres: Yes, I think one of the I already started to be like
a podcast host, one of my friends asked me to interview
him for, for, for, for actually, or an event and the virtual
event he's doing. And he's going to hike the Appalachian Trail.
And I interview him like every week about it, but it's just,
you know, I'm just learning it. So I'm, yeah, I have a lot to
learn. I would love to be like you. So I have any
Janice Porter: training to how to be a podcast host. I just
Just curious.
Noemi Beres: Are you doing an amazing job. And the other thing
is this, that's what I'm practicing right now to how to
be a host. It's fun, because it's funny, because I'm always
on the other side of the microphone. So it's, it's
interesting. The other thing, what was what I wanted to say
yes, about that the book. Yeah, because I'm an artist. So I make
collages, like digital paper, and collages, and canvas, like
hands on collages, and canvas. I would like love to have a coffee
table book with all of my collages, like, you know,
beautifully photographed. And I would love to write the story of
each and every collages that I made, because they usually based
on my past about my family about my family's history, my
memories. And I would love to include that. And that would be
like an album or something like that. But that's for the future.
Not right.
Janice Porter: Very cool. Well, this has been delightful. I've
learned a lot more about you know, me and your business. And
I know that we're going to be staying in touch through the
next year and see who comes on my podcast from your agency.
It's kind of fun to to to know that. That's what you're doing.
And I'm always open to speaking to people that come from you. So
thank you so much for being here. Any last words for my
audience?
Noemi Beres: Yes. Yeah, um, you know, my advice, just people be
consistent and persistent. Whatever they do. When it comes
to podcasting, when it comes to being an entrepreneur or doing
their art or whatever, we're exercising. It's just being
consistent and persistent. And we always reach our goals if you
do that. Thank
Janice Porter: you. That's great advice. And thank you to my
audience, again, for being loyal and for being here. And if you
like what you heard, please let us know. And don't forget to
stay connected and be remembered.