1 00:00:01,319 --> 00:00:04,139 Janice Porter: Hello, hello and welcome to this week's episode 2 00:00:04,169 --> 00:00:08,459 of relationships rule. I'm your host, Janice Porter, as usual 3 00:00:08,459 --> 00:00:12,689 and I have a very special guest all the way from Cyprus. This 4 00:00:12,779 --> 00:00:16,589 week, her name is Noemi Baris, I should have checked that before 5 00:00:16,589 --> 00:00:20,249 I said it. No, me I got your first name, right. I know that 6 00:00:20,249 --> 00:00:23,819 sort of No, I mean, there is. And we have met a couple of 7 00:00:23,819 --> 00:00:30,539 times. And again, as I've said, so many times, I met No, me on 8 00:00:30,749 --> 00:00:35,609 LinkedIn. And I just keep repeating that it is a place to 9 00:00:35,609 --> 00:00:38,759 meet good people. So I'm very excited about that. And first of 10 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:39,929 all, welcome to the show. 11 00:00:40,740 --> 00:00:43,470 Noemi Beres: Thank you so much for having me today. I really 12 00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:44,280 appreciate that. 13 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:48,330 Janice Porter: You're very welcome. So I know that, that 14 00:00:48,330 --> 00:00:52,800 you are a an entrepreneur, that you have your own business and 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,250 your business is all about podcasting. It's a you're the co 16 00:00:56,250 --> 00:01:00,210 owner of the podcast connections, booking agency, 17 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:04,260 correct? Yeah, correct. So tell me a little bit about what you 18 00:01:04,260 --> 00:01:09,030 do. And tell my audience you know, what you do and how that 19 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:11,880 all works in your world of podcasting? 20 00:01:12,510 --> 00:01:17,010 Noemi Beres: Yes, thank you. So we have entrepreneurs to connect 21 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:20,850 to quality podcast shows and enrich their lives through 22 00:01:20,850 --> 00:01:26,340 connections. It's we operate like a PR agency and just solely 23 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:30,660 focusing on podcasts and podcast interviews worldwide. We work 24 00:01:30,660 --> 00:01:36,690 with mainly podcasts from the US, Canada, UK, sometimes 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Australia, New Zealand, very few cases, because I find the 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,650 difference. It's 27 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:45,420 Janice Porter: crazy, right? Absolutely. Yeah, it's where you 28 00:01:45,420 --> 00:01:46,140 are right now. 29 00:01:47,010 --> 00:01:49,320 Noemi Beres: It's 7pm. It's past 7pm. Yeah. 30 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:53,640 Janice Porter: So it's nine. Is it? Is it? Is it what day of the 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,480 week? Is it? Thursday? There are Yeah, it's Thursday. Yeah, 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Thursday. Okay. See, I never know. Okay. So, um, so 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,580 podcasting has become like, cool. It's just, you know, 34 00:02:05,580 --> 00:02:10,860 exploded, right. And so there are, of course, a lot of podcast 35 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:14,310 booking agencies out there. I get pitched all the time, by 36 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:17,460 people, I have no idea who they are they, they say they've 37 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:21,240 listened to my podcast, but I know by their comments in that 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,880 thing, they have no idea because they'll send me people that 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,710 don't even make sense for me, okay. So when I come across 40 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:34,230 someone who takes the care and really looks for that 41 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:38,010 connection, and says to me, as you have on a couple of 42 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:40,860 occasions, I think I have someone that would be a good fit 43 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:43,950 for your podcast. It's that know, like, and trust. Once you 44 00:02:43,950 --> 00:02:48,000 get some, excuse me, once you get somebody introduced to you 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,440 by someone like you, and it's a good fit, okay, now you open up 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,330 a little bit more now you you trust what they're doing, and 47 00:02:57,330 --> 00:03:01,410 that it's working. And you build relationship as I have with you 48 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,790 with the agency person, because you want good people and you 49 00:03:05,790 --> 00:03:10,410 don't want all these, you know, flaky people that send you weird 50 00:03:10,410 --> 00:03:16,050 content, and there's no heart in much of what? So, so because I 51 00:03:16,050 --> 00:03:20,280 know you do differentiate? How do you differentiate? How does 52 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,620 your agency you know, stand out amongst that, that sea of people 53 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:27,630 that send me people? That's 54 00:03:27,630 --> 00:03:29,310 Noemi Beres: a great question. And nobody asked me that 55 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:33,720 question before. It's all about human connections. I mean, 56 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,110 that's just so important, just connecting with people. And when 57 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:40,470 I connect with a host, I really want to get to know them, not 58 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:43,710 just pitch someone and you know, just get money or whatever, 59 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:47,070 because the clients are paying me to do that. I really want to 60 00:03:47,070 --> 00:03:50,040 know you. I really wanted to know Jenny sporter Hoon Shan is 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,310 forgeries. I wanted to know more about what you do about your 62 00:03:53,310 --> 00:03:58,110 business about your podcast. And yeah, it just starting some kind 63 00:03:58,110 --> 00:04:01,710 of relationship with the hosts. Because once we established that 64 00:04:01,710 --> 00:04:05,340 we trust each other, as long as we have trust, we can, you know, 65 00:04:05,340 --> 00:04:07,890 we can work together in the future for many, many years to 66 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:11,970 come. And I'm lucky to say that, like, there are so many great 67 00:04:11,970 --> 00:04:15,420 podcast hosts in the world out there that I know and I work 68 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:19,020 with, like every day, and I just love working with them. They are 69 00:04:19,020 --> 00:04:22,530 just so important. My life and they are as important as my 70 00:04:22,530 --> 00:04:26,310 clients because like, yeah, it's it's an important 71 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,090 Janice Porter: it's it's probably really important that 72 00:04:30,090 --> 00:04:34,620 yeah, the right connections for your clients because they've 73 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:37,710 invested their time and money with you. And so you know, you 74 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:40,830 want to get it right and I totally get that. So now I 75 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:42,390 forgot the question I had in my head 76 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:50,190 template, it was a good question too. And it completely went out 77 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:52,560 of my head. It'll come back, so I'm not going to worry about it. 78 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:58,530 But oh, well. So when you're looking to make those 79 00:04:58,530 --> 00:05:02,760 connections like that, With Me podcast hosts, what are you 80 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,060 looking for? As a good podcast? What are you seeing as, and I 81 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:13,110 don't mean, you know? Well, whatever that means to you, you 82 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:18,000 know what, what constitutes, you know, podcast hosts worth 83 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,630 pursuing. 84 00:05:19,470 --> 00:05:22,710 Noemi Beres: Right? It's always about quality, obviously. And it 85 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:26,190 doesn't necessarily mean quantity. Some, some guests and 86 00:05:26,220 --> 00:05:29,160 some of my clients, they just want to be on podcast, they have 87 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,130 like 150 episodes and 95 ratings. And you know, they have 88 00:05:32,130 --> 00:05:36,720 very, very specific expectations about the host. But what I found 89 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,950 in my job that there are so many great, like smaller particles 90 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:44,340 out there, too, that are quality, but they are niche. So 91 00:05:44,340 --> 00:05:47,190 they are in a certain niche, but they're doing an absolutely 92 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:51,090 amazing job. And it doesn't really matter how many episodes 93 00:05:51,090 --> 00:05:54,060 they have, as long as they are in your niche. And they are, 94 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:57,480 they are great, and they have value, and they give value to 95 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,610 their audience. And it's just so important. Obviously, when we 96 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,670 were checking out podcasts, we use listened nodes. So we can 97 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:10,380 see what podcasts are in the top five, five to 10%. And we 98 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:13,530 usually work with those podcasts, and podcast host. I 99 00:06:13,530 --> 00:06:17,070 mean, they have to have like the stick to like a certain number 100 00:06:17,070 --> 00:06:19,890 of episodes, obviously, that's important. So someone just 101 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:23,130 starting out, and they have like five episodes, we can't really 102 00:06:23,220 --> 00:06:26,430 work with them yet. We keep an eye on them. And we'll see. And 103 00:06:26,430 --> 00:06:30,180 they check back and we listen to them. So you know, how, what are 104 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:33,420 they doing? How good they are. And to be honest, sometimes I'm 105 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:37,200 the guinea pig. And if the niche is fine, I'm just going to show 106 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,790 and I check them out. And it's a great way to test them. Because 107 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:46,200 it's fine for me. I don't you know, I know. That's okay. And 108 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:49,680 yeah, it's a good thing to test out the podcast. But obviously, 109 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,010 I can do that with all the podcasts that I'm sending my 110 00:06:53,010 --> 00:06:57,660 hosts. But yeah, I mean, I think it's quality before quantity for 111 00:06:57,660 --> 00:07:01,050 sure. And it's not about numbers, not about downloads not 112 00:07:01,050 --> 00:07:05,340 about just listenership because that's not all. It's important. 113 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:06,270 But that's not all. 114 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:09,420 Janice Porter: Yeah, definitely. I think I agree with you. And 115 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,530 you can tell I'm not 100% Today, I was just sharing earlier that 116 00:07:16,530 --> 00:07:23,400 I sprained my ankle. I'm not on top of my game today. But what 117 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,700 do you think? Oh, I was gonna say so. Yeah, I think when 118 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:30,030 somebody is new, I think you have to see if they're being 119 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:33,390 consistent if they're gonna last right for a while before, you 120 00:07:33,390 --> 00:07:36,990 wouldn't invest your time in that because I am actually quite 121 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:40,650 proud of the fact that I haven't missed a week and I'm at, I'm in 122 00:07:40,650 --> 00:07:42,900 three years now. So I 123 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:44,880 Noemi Beres: think, congratulations. 124 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:48,210 Janice Porter: I love my podcast, because I love talking 125 00:07:48,210 --> 00:07:52,620 to people and interviewing people and use. One thing that 126 00:07:52,650 --> 00:07:57,060 you know about me that I have always done is I don't go in 127 00:07:57,060 --> 00:08:01,380 blind with my podcast guests. I like to talk to them first. Not 128 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:04,800 because I want to plan the podcast, but because I want to 129 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,030 build some rapport and feel that it's a good connection for me, 130 00:08:09,060 --> 00:08:13,320 otherwise, it's not going to happen. And nine times out of 10 131 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,010 It's been pretty good. That you know, I've had the odd one that 132 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:23,100 I've felt, maybe I was afraid to say no, but I earlier on but but 133 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:25,830 it wasn't a comfortable situation. And you can usually 134 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:30,900 tell if that happens. I've never sort of not published or aired 135 00:08:31,170 --> 00:08:34,650 an episode. But I know people do that if it doesn't work out in 136 00:08:34,650 --> 00:08:38,040 their favor. Have you ever had that happen with, with, with 137 00:08:38,970 --> 00:08:40,980 people you've placed on podcasts 138 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,430 Noemi Beres: once or twice? Rarely? Very rarely. I mean, 139 00:08:44,430 --> 00:08:47,430 they usually they usually it happened, for example, the 140 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:51,150 podcast stopped that was more often that like a podcast just 141 00:08:51,150 --> 00:08:54,120 stopped operating. And, you know, something happened in the 142 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,870 hosts live. And they just they couldn't continue. Yeah, that 143 00:08:57,870 --> 00:09:02,220 was like, I didn't really have that once or twice. I think it's 144 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:04,590 sometimes it's not because of the quality of the guests 145 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:08,280 reasons. I don't know what happened. And sometimes it can 146 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,120 be anything. Yeah. 147 00:09:09,390 --> 00:09:12,870 Janice Porter: So do the majority of people you talk to 148 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:16,470 do what I do or not, like have want to have an intro? 149 00:09:17,850 --> 00:09:21,930 discussion because a lot of I've been when I've been a guest on 150 00:09:21,930 --> 00:09:25,950 podcast, he just send me a form and you know, away we go. And 151 00:09:26,460 --> 00:09:27,570 that doesn't do it. For me. 152 00:09:28,050 --> 00:09:31,110 Noemi Beres: It's like 5050 like some post, they just want to go 153 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:33,960 straight on the show and they just do the interview. They 154 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,980 don't have time. And they just do that and there are holes that 155 00:09:37,980 --> 00:09:42,300 I know a lot and they do pre course all the time. So as a as 156 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:45,900 an agent is a bit it's a bit of more work. Of course you have to 157 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:47,910 organize like it's two times like you'd had you have to 158 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:50,400 organize a pre call then you have to organize the injury you 159 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,300 but I completely understand your point of view but because it's 160 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:57,390 just so hard that you meet someone at the first time 161 00:09:57,420 --> 00:10:00,690 obviously because we met before and we had Chad before So it 162 00:10:00,690 --> 00:10:03,450 just easier but like somebody just coming to you and say, 163 00:10:03,450 --> 00:10:07,800 Okay, let's start start talking about something. Yeah, I, I 164 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,730 would say it's important to have that common vibe and just just 165 00:10:11,730 --> 00:10:14,580 get to know each other a little bit just like 10 minutes. 15 166 00:10:14,580 --> 00:10:17,070 minutes. It doesn't have to be long. Yeah, 167 00:10:17,310 --> 00:10:19,560 Janice Porter: usually, you know, right away anyway. Yeah. 168 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:25,980 So when you're priming your clients to be a good podcast 169 00:10:25,980 --> 00:10:29,280 guest, what does that look like? What makes what it what would 170 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,700 you say the top three things are for being three, five things, 171 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:36,660 whatever, for being a really good podcast guest from your 172 00:10:36,660 --> 00:10:37,350 perspective. 173 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,410 Noemi Beres: First of all, if you're a great good guest, great 174 00:10:40,410 --> 00:10:43,590 guests, you have to do your research, you have to listen to 175 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:46,650 that podcast, at least one episode before your interview. 176 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:50,400 If you have time, do it like more and leave a review. And if 177 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:55,260 that's important, and but try to listen to the episodes, try to 178 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:59,970 get familiar with with the style with the vibe of the topics and 179 00:11:00,150 --> 00:11:03,780 just just how they operate, how the hosts operate. It's so 180 00:11:03,780 --> 00:11:07,200 important, because everyone has a different style. And someone 181 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,140 can be like free flow, the other host can be like very strict, 182 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:13,080 and we're just focusing on certain questions. So yeah, just 183 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,000 check it out. And which is the second thing is, which is really 184 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,080 important. It's like come always prepared, don't wing it. It's 185 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,970 like, even if you are a seasoned guest, I mean, prepare yourself. 186 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,540 And I always do that, like every single, before every single 187 00:11:30,810 --> 00:11:35,700 interview, I try to get ready, like mentally, emotionally, just 188 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:38,940 get into this space, and I'm going to have an interview, I'm 189 00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:41,940 going, I'm not going to focus on my work today, like not today, 190 00:11:41,970 --> 00:11:45,630 just for that hour, or just before, like 20 minutes. And I'm 191 00:11:45,630 --> 00:11:48,810 just focusing on the particular interview, because I owe that to 192 00:11:48,810 --> 00:11:52,500 the host. I mean, you I you know, you've spent a lot of time 193 00:11:52,590 --> 00:11:55,560 and energy on these episodes. So let's do that. Let's do the 194 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:59,910 same. And I think it's really important, then why you under 195 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:06,330 Show speak, clearly be engaging, not too stiff, and just try to 196 00:12:06,330 --> 00:12:10,500 be conversational and friendly. As if nobody listens to that 197 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:13,830 podcast, just to have you there. And just having a conversation, 198 00:12:13,830 --> 00:12:17,490 like you know, in a cafe or you know, wherever you are, just be 199 00:12:17,490 --> 00:12:21,150 engaging, and just try to just enjoy that conversation, because 200 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:25,230 that's the most important for both of you. Then, obviously, be 201 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:30,600 respectful with the host, and don't use the host platform, the 202 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,260 podcast as an advertisement for your product service book 203 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:36,960 everything. Yeah, there are no, I know. 204 00:12:38,010 --> 00:12:41,340 Janice Porter: Wow. Yes. Very interesting when that happens, 205 00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:45,570 right. But yeah, so those are, that's really good advice. But I 206 00:12:45,570 --> 00:12:50,160 agree that I like to sort of set this the scene for myself too 207 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,000 first, and just, you know, do a little bit of last minute, 208 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,690 looking at your LinkedIn profile looking right, right, looking at 209 00:12:57,690 --> 00:13:01,020 the notes that that I've made as sort of getting into the zone 210 00:13:01,020 --> 00:13:09,810 before, before the call today. I was nursing my ankle but but I, 211 00:13:10,350 --> 00:13:14,610 I was actually fascinated by the fact that you are a linguist and 212 00:13:14,610 --> 00:13:17,880 I want to talk about that. If I could I know that's not your 213 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,740 world now. But I remember being so long time ago, but I remember 214 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:27,570 taking a course at university on linguistics. Who does? Like 215 00:13:27,570 --> 00:13:32,160 nobody? I know. You and me. Yeah, well, it's been a long 216 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,820 time ago. And but language fascinating etymology. 217 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:41,430 Fascinating, fascinating. And, and, and sometimes, like, I'm a 218 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:45,420 real jeopardy fan, I watched Jeopardy every night. And you 219 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:49,140 can, you know, you can get an answer by just looking at the 220 00:13:49,140 --> 00:13:52,290 word or getting a sense of, you know, where the word comes from, 221 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:58,020 or whatever. And so what drew you to being like, what was that 222 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:01,290 all about? When you became a link? You got a master's degree 223 00:14:01,290 --> 00:14:04,440 in Danish literature? Because you went school in Denmark? 224 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:04,890 Correct. 225 00:14:05,310 --> 00:14:07,290 Noemi Beres: You're in school in Denmark, but I completed my 226 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:10,470 master's degree in Hungary in Budapest. Yeah, so it's like, 227 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:13,230 that was just like, that was I was an exchange student in 228 00:14:13,230 --> 00:14:16,770 Denmark when I was a teenager. So that was before University. 229 00:14:16,770 --> 00:14:21,060 Yeah, that's actually goes back to my story. Because I was I 230 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:25,200 became an exchange student when I was 16. So I spent an entire 231 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,610 school year in Denmark in like, went to Danish High School, 232 00:14:29,790 --> 00:14:32,880 lived with a Danish family. And that was before when we use 233 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,300 internet and emails and zoom and you know, whatever. We just had 234 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:45,870 phones and stuff, like landline, not mobiles. And I'm old. And so 235 00:14:45,870 --> 00:14:50,970 I stayed there for a whole year. So I learned Danish. I was 236 00:14:50,970 --> 00:14:54,540 fluent in Danish by the time I got back to Hungary, so I had 237 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:56,430 all kinds of language exams 238 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,970 Janice Porter: and different language, just like yeah, it is 239 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,210 See 240 00:15:00,210 --> 00:15:02,100 Noemi Beres: I compared to Hungary and it's like, we are 241 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:06,540 like different parts of the world and, like language wise as 242 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:09,750 well, linguistically as well. But it was really fascinating. I 243 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:13,710 mean, Danish is a very strange language for sure. It sounds 244 00:15:13,740 --> 00:15:16,860 like, yeah, no offense to Denmark, but it sounds weird, 245 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:20,400 but because it's like part of my heart, it's like, whatever, it 246 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,830 always stays in my heart. But it's a strange language for 247 00:15:22,830 --> 00:15:23,130 sure. 248 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:26,220 Janice Porter: My mother in law was Danish. And you know that. 249 00:15:28,110 --> 00:15:32,280 Noemi Beres: And I also learn Swedish, so I both because I, so 250 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,430 that was like, very easy to learn. And then I understand 251 00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:38,040 Norwegian, because of the other two, I can speak. They're 252 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,530 similar. So they're very similar. They're like 253 00:15:40,530 --> 00:15:43,470 neighboring countries, and they had just one language group. So 254 00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:47,400 it was really, it was easy to learn. So it was fun. So you 255 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,160 went to just you get one master's degree, but then you 256 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,370 understood the other end. I studied, I wanted to study 257 00:15:53,370 --> 00:15:56,760 Swedish. And then yeah, and that was like a strange choice. And 258 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,270 my dad wanted me to be a lawyer or doctor, whatever. But then I 259 00:16:00,270 --> 00:16:03,000 told him, You know, I want to study Danish linguistics. And 260 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,290 it's like, there were about like five girls, including me, in our 261 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,920 group. And I mean, there was there wasn't a huge interest, 262 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,570 you know, to do that course. But I enjoy that. And I had a great 263 00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:19,500 time. And it was really interesting time on my life. I 264 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:21,960 went to like, spent like five years in Budapest in the 265 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,730 capital. So yeah, unfortunately, right now, I don't really use 266 00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:30,240 Danish, but obviously still with me. And I love reading Danish 267 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,320 books of watching movies. And it's fun. And there's 268 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,500 Janice Porter: a lot of actually here. There's a lot of Danish, 269 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,850 really good Danish programming on Netflix. Yes, 270 00:16:41,849 --> 00:16:45,479 Noemi Beres: yeah. Amazing movies. Yeah, I love them. Yeah. 271 00:16:45,479 --> 00:16:49,139 And I just watched them, like in the original language. And like, 272 00:16:49,169 --> 00:16:51,539 I didn't know, it just flies me back to the old times. It's 273 00:16:51,539 --> 00:16:53,399 like, Ah, I missed that. Mark. 274 00:16:53,609 --> 00:16:56,729 Janice Porter: That's fantastic. Because people in North America 275 00:16:56,759 --> 00:17:02,279 do not learn languages, the way Europeans and do and you know, 276 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:05,129 I'm always in awe of people that speak so many different 277 00:17:05,129 --> 00:17:07,949 languages. I think it's amazing. I speak English. That's it. I 278 00:17:07,949 --> 00:17:11,159 mean, I took French and Spanish in school. But can I speak it? 279 00:17:11,159 --> 00:17:14,609 No, I could maybe read some of it. But that's about it. But I 280 00:17:14,609 --> 00:17:17,039 wanted to, I don't know if I did this before. But I wanted to 281 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:20,789 share with you this book that I absolutely adored. And it's 282 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:25,349 about grammar. And I don't know if you ever got into grammar. If 283 00:17:25,349 --> 00:17:26,069 linguistics 284 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:28,920 Noemi Beres: doesn't Yeah, yeah, we had to Yeah, we had. 285 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,720 Janice Porter: This is a book is it written by a British woman? I 286 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,980 think it's called Eat shoots and leaves. Did you ever hear it? 287 00:17:38,250 --> 00:17:38,760 No, 288 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,350 Noemi Beres: I didn't. But I would love to read it. If it's 289 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:42,330 about linguistics, or anything. 290 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:43,890 Janice Porter: I'll show it to you off here because it's over 291 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:47,580 there in my queue. Oh, my gosh. Quite funny. Actually. It's 292 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:50,910 quite funny. But anyway, I love language and words. And so I was 293 00:17:50,910 --> 00:17:55,950 too. Yeah, I got Did you ever think of becoming like, 294 00:17:56,220 --> 00:17:59,820 international translator or anything like that when you were 295 00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:00,690 younger? 296 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,540 Noemi Beres: At one stage of my life. But what I figured out 297 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:10,500 I'm, I'm not really interested in that you really have to focus 298 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:15,420 on translation, and it can be really dry to do translation 299 00:18:15,420 --> 00:18:20,850 work. And plus After university I like I applied for so many 300 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:24,180 jobs in Hungary. I did you know, I they didn't really want me 301 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:28,410 anywhere. And then that's why I ended up abroad first in Denmark 302 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:34,140 then in Ireland. And I, yeah, yes. Yeah. For seven years. I've 303 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:38,130 been living in Ireland for so many years. And it was it was a 304 00:18:38,130 --> 00:18:41,040 beautiful place. And you know, there's, again, a special place 305 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,830 in my heart. Although it's too cold for me. I had to decide to 306 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:53,880 move to Cyprus in 2011 So it's going to be like 13 years in 307 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,780 2024 308 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,680 Janice Porter: Yeah, fantastic. Now I don't know anything really 309 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,830 about the island of Cyprus? I'm sure it's beautiful. Because it 310 00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:02,580 is beautiful. 311 00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:04,860 Noemi Beres: Yeah, it says tonight it's a divided Island 312 00:19:04,860 --> 00:19:07,800 occupied by the Turkish army like a Turkish on the other part 313 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,180 so it's like the capital Nico Zia is divided. And so is the UN 314 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:15,900 troops are still there and but it's like it's it's peaceful and 315 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,510 everything, it just we are in the Greek part, and there's the 316 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:20,430 Turkish part. I see. 317 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:26,070 Janice Porter: Okay. Fantastic. So, the other thing I have to 318 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:29,310 ask you about which is again, totally unrelated is about your 319 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:36,870 the collages that you do so your crafts person as well. Right. 320 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,040 And you played the drum, the FRIS hang and frame drum what is 321 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,470 the hanging frame drum? Is it Hank 322 00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:46,650 Noemi Beres: is Hank is a handpan it's like a metal No no, 323 00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:49,410 you have to like put it down because this huge like they are 324 00:19:49,410 --> 00:19:52,800 big. Oh like a metal pipe drum like it's a steel drum. It's 325 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,500 just to the drum. Yeah, it's not metal steel. Yeah, it's a steel 326 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:59,220 drum and they are pretty big and heavy and I got it for my 40th 327 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:02,040 birthday from my Mom, it was a birthday gift. So I, you know, 328 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,340 we're just so happy that they're quite expensive. So my mom was 329 00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:08,400 like, I want to buy it for us like, Oh, thank you. I love it. 330 00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:12,420 So I have it here actually in my office. And the frame drum is a 331 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:15,600 frame drum that you hold, and it's like a big frame drum and 332 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,200 they 333 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:18,420 Janice Porter: say you're like feeding it this way. 334 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:21,930 Noemi Beres: I do. It might have been my hand by my hands. Okay, 335 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,870 yeah, yeah. Well, you hold it, there's like a little thing. You 336 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:29,220 can just Yeah. And it's like, perfect stress release. Relief, 337 00:20:29,310 --> 00:20:32,910 if you like, Yeah, after a hard day, or during the weekend. I 338 00:20:32,910 --> 00:20:36,540 love doing it. And it can be really loud. But we have only 339 00:20:36,540 --> 00:20:39,480 one neighbor. So that's fine. He's okay. Or 340 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,270 Janice Porter: just some women have multi talents. I love that. 341 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Thank you. So I know I didn't, you weren't expecting me to ask 342 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,200 that stuff. But those are the things that interests me the 343 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,610 things that that are no, I 344 00:20:50,610 --> 00:20:52,920 Noemi Beres: have never said that. I'm always like, it's not 345 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,190 only about word, but like, that's what beers is off. It's 346 00:20:56,190 --> 00:20:59,790 like a puzzle puzzle pieces. And that's like, yeah, 347 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:03,870 Janice Porter: so. So let's go back for a minute to podcasting. 348 00:21:03,870 --> 00:21:08,580 And let me ask you this. Where do most of your clients come 349 00:21:08,580 --> 00:21:12,450 from? Do they come from like me LinkedIn? Or do they come from 350 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:16,980 you from referrals? So they come from networking events you go to 351 00:21:17,250 --> 00:21:18,840 online, or what? 352 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:22,950 Noemi Beres: It's now is word of mouth and referrals. Obviously, 353 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:26,130 at the beginning, when we started our business in 2020, it 354 00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:30,510 was all about cold pitching cold emails, calling the messages. 355 00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:33,360 That's how we started. I mean, we didn't have any connection in 356 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,690 the podcast booking world. I didn't know anything about it. 357 00:21:36,930 --> 00:21:42,240 So it was I, it wasn't an easy way to learn it. But it was fun. 358 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:45,600 And now referrals word of mouth. And I have to say and I have to 359 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,680 talk about I always do. I talk about the Go givers and bobbers 360 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,850 community, because a lot of my clients actually they come from 361 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,150 the community. We I you know, I joined the community, the Go 362 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:02,520 givers. That was in June, I think. And since then, I just 363 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:05,820 really became like an active member of it. And I enjoy every 364 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:09,120 moment and every meeting we have. And people just started to 365 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:11,610 you know, this is wanting to work with me. And I'm just so 366 00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:14,490 happy to have them in my in my life because they are amazing 367 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,100 Janice Porter: plastic. That's fantastic. So Bob Berg, who 368 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:24,210 wrote co wrote the Go Giver back Yes. Seven who isn't a gentleman 369 00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:27,630 who actually was a guest on my podcast. I know that I listened 370 00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:32,400 to that interview. It was just so special. And I've wanted to 371 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,020 have him on for a long time. And it took me I guess it wasn't 372 00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:41,730 meant to be until it was right. And because another gentleman 373 00:22:41,730 --> 00:22:44,880 who's been on my podcast twice Mark given who's a wonderful 374 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,030 man. And he mentioned, Bob, and I said, you know him? And he 375 00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:50,970 said, Well, yeah, I do. I haven't talked to him for 376 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:52,890 awhile. I said, Would you introduce me? I'd love to have 377 00:22:52,890 --> 00:22:55,890 him on the podcast. He said, of course. And that and it happened 378 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:59,550 like the next week that I spoke to him. So it was it was really 379 00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:04,710 cool. So I I'm interested in looking forward to checking out 380 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:10,560 that station with you, because he's just got the right heart, 381 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:13,230 you know, and so the people that were there that are there, I'm 382 00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:16,140 sure do too. So that's really cool that you've established 383 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:23,490 yourself as, as the the podcast person to go to the go to person 384 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:28,500 there. And I think that's great. You I saw a quote that you did 385 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:31,800 the other day that said, podcasts are fuel for the 386 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,600 curious mind. Yes. So what I'm going to there's a couple of 387 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,520 things. I want to ask about that. But first of all, what do 388 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,760 you do you only listen to podcasts that you know you're 389 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,170 trying to find a place for your clients? Or do you have any 390 00:23:49,170 --> 00:23:53,850 favorites that you listen to just for just because? Because I 391 00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:54,510 usually 392 00:23:54,540 --> 00:23:57,420 Noemi Beres: usually it's work, obviously, because I check them 393 00:23:57,420 --> 00:24:02,940 out. And but I do have one favorite one. And I started to 394 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:05,520 listen to this podcast. I don't know if it's running right now 395 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,100 because I haven't listened to it for a while. But it's about 396 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,340 music. I love music, and I love drumming and music is my go to 397 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:14,640 thing when I'm sad when I'm happy, whatever. And there's 398 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,460 like a musician called Josh Klinghoffer. He was the 399 00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:22,440 guitarist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And I and he started a 400 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,550 podcast during the pandemic. And he was talking about music. He 401 00:24:26,550 --> 00:24:31,110 invited his friends. And then they actually showed very unique 402 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:35,880 music and they actually played them during the interviews. And 403 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,270 that was so fascinating. And I loved it because that was 404 00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:44,280 unique, really unique. But I have so many favorite interviews 405 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,370 and so many favorite podcasts also I could then listen, and I 406 00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:48,840 could listen to them all day long. 407 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:53,190 Janice Porter: So I just heard some great news because my 408 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:57,390 favorite podcast was Julia Louis Dreyfus, his wife, 409 00:24:57,690 --> 00:24:58,830 Noemi Beres: I remember you said that Yeah, 410 00:24:59,370 --> 00:25:03,240 Janice Porter: well I saw on on Instagram that she won podcast 411 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,440 of the year somewhere. And there is a season two coming. So I'm 412 00:25:07,650 --> 00:25:10,500 pretty excited in January, I think because she is just 413 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:16,080 hysterical. And interviews, women who she believes are wiser 414 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,930 than her because they're older than her generally and that and 415 00:25:18,930 --> 00:25:24,420 she's 62. So there's some really interesting, wise women that she 416 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:28,890 interviews and she really does her homework as a host. I'm so 417 00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:32,970 impressed with what she does, because she's got producers that 418 00:25:32,970 --> 00:25:37,080 feed her stuff to, you know, while the research for her, but 419 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,900 she has to do it, or she'll watch their movies or because 420 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:42,690 you're all famous, or read their books or whatever. That's 421 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:48,450 fascinating. And so I'm I like to listen to podcasts, sometimes 422 00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:53,580 based on listening to the host, and how they the questions they 423 00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:56,910 asked her the way that we operate. So it's kind of fun. 424 00:25:56,910 --> 00:25:59,700 But yeah, there's so many now it's loads 425 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:02,160 Noemi Beres: of them, like 3.5 million for I don't know, it 426 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,750 just growing numbers. 427 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,440 Janice Porter: So you may have noticed on the sheet that I sent 428 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,740 you that one of the questions I like to ask my audience is about 429 00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:15,090 curiosity, not my ideas, my guess. And that's what I want to 430 00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:18,480 come back to with that podcasts are fuel for the curious mind. 431 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:27,000 So do you believe that curiosity is innate? Or is it learned? 432 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:30,240 That's part one? I've answered that first. 433 00:26:30,930 --> 00:26:34,440 Noemi Beres: That's a very interesting question. 434 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,680 Janice Porter: And there's right I mean, it's I know, 435 00:26:38,370 --> 00:26:41,610 Noemi Beres: I think it really depends on how you grew up and 436 00:26:41,610 --> 00:26:44,340 what kind of family you have, because my mom was like, a 437 00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:48,960 kindergarten teacher. And she always like, helped me to being 438 00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:54,540 curious and, and to teach me how to learn things. And I always 439 00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:58,740 keep learning things. So I don't know if it can be learned, if 440 00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:01,350 you are with the right people, and especially with kids, 441 00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:04,320 because kids are innate, like from the beginning. And we are 442 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,100 like that, but there may be around teenager age, we just 443 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,370 lose that kind of interest in everything. But I noticed with 444 00:27:11,370 --> 00:27:14,460 my son, like he loved reading and I was just like, Okay, can 445 00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:17,550 you read this page? It's like, No, I don't. So it's like, yeah, 446 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,630 that kind of curiosity stops for a while. But then I don't know. 447 00:27:21,630 --> 00:27:26,040 It's like, I for me, when I'm I'm 44 this is not a secret 448 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,150 about anything. But I'm, like, more curious than ever. So I 449 00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:32,400 don't know, it comes with age, and I don't know what's going 450 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,690 on. But it's still innate. And it can be learned to which just, 451 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,680 you just have that kind of urge to learn new things. And, and 452 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,830 when you're an entrepreneur, you need to do that. I'm doing that. 453 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,040 I've been doing that since 2007, since I became an entrepreneur. 454 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:50,010 So it's just continuous learning, and continuous 455 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:53,640 curiosity of new things. And like now AI or, you know, 456 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,840 changing how to train GPT to, to do the prompts. And it's just so 457 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,120 fascinating. I had a conversation with a host 458 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:04,320 yesterday about that. So it was like, wow. So I 459 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,760 Janice Porter: Yeah, totally. Okay, so part two is what are 460 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,650 you most curious about right now? 461 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:14,340 Noemi Beres: I think that's that's the thing that's like 462 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:18,450 change GPT and how to train it, how to help my work, and still 463 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:24,420 trying to stay original. And not to lose my identity. I use Excel 464 00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:27,900 GPT. So it's kind of yeah, that's, that's the way I found. 465 00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:33,690 Janice Porter: Fair enough. Okay, so that's, that's always 466 00:28:33,690 --> 00:28:36,240 fun to find out what people think about that. I've actually 467 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,980 done a little bit of a, I had to I did an article on curiosity. 468 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:44,070 And I started to look back at how many people that I 469 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:46,650 interviewed said one thing and how many have said the other and 470 00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:48,810 it's kind of 5050. So it's, it's 471 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Noemi Beres: absolutely, Oh, yeah. And this was one more I 472 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,350 was really curious about about my ancestors. And I just had 473 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:59,490 done an Ancestry DNA test a couple of weeks ago, and I got 474 00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:03,180 the results last week. And I was like, Estonia is just like, what 475 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,520 it was. It was really fun. Like, it turns out, I'm Hungarian, 476 00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:11,670 like, you know, I was born and raised there and only 1% less 477 00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:16,470 than 1% Hungarian. And my origins go back to Maldivian and 478 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:22,560 Ukrainian, Greek and something from the Balkan. It's yeah, it's 479 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,890 fascinating. That's the kind of curiosity is like, where, where 480 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,230 did I come from? It's like, where I'm from, like my 481 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:29,970 ancestors from so that's 482 00:29:29,970 --> 00:29:32,460 Janice Porter: very, very interesting. So what's on the 483 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:35,640 horizon for 2024? For you? 484 00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:40,950 Noemi Beres: 2024 will be a very busy year, and I started to work 485 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:45,720 with a business coach this year. And I actually met her through 486 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,830 one of our networking group and she's amazing. She's from the 487 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:53,820 US, but she lives here in Europe, and we're just working 488 00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:58,140 on my plan is to working less in the business and working on the 489 00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:01,470 business and I think I'm on the right I pay right now. So I can 490 00:30:01,470 --> 00:30:05,880 free up my time. And I can organize a masterclass or 491 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,370 workshops for for people who want to be podcast guests. And I 492 00:30:11,370 --> 00:30:13,410 just want to give my knowledge and share the knowledge with 493 00:30:13,410 --> 00:30:17,610 them. And that's why it's important to just restructure my 494 00:30:17,610 --> 00:30:21,360 business right now. So it's a big work. And it's very, it's 495 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,230 hard, but it will worth it. And yeah, that's why looking for it 496 00:30:25,230 --> 00:30:25,320 and 497 00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:31,200 Janice Porter: having people do the research for you to find the 498 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:33,810 hosts and lists. Yeah. And then yeah, working 499 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:36,210 Noemi Beres: with a virtual assistant already for two years. 500 00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:40,110 So she's pretty good at that. But we still need a couple of 501 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:44,040 people on board. So we're expanding. Yeah, it's a very 502 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,680 interesting phase of the business. It's very exciting to 503 00:30:46,740 --> 00:30:50,580 Janice Porter: Yeah, that sounds exciting. And do you see a book 504 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:54,000 in your future? Or a podcast of your own in your future? 505 00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:59,340 Noemi Beres: Yes, I think one of the I already started to be like 506 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:02,220 a podcast host, one of my friends asked me to interview 507 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:07,170 him for, for, for, for actually, or an event and the virtual 508 00:31:07,170 --> 00:31:12,450 event he's doing. And he's going to hike the Appalachian Trail. 509 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:15,390 And I interview him like every week about it, but it's just, 510 00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:18,810 you know, I'm just learning it. So I'm, yeah, I have a lot to 511 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:23,220 learn. I would love to be like you. So I have any 512 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:26,550 Janice Porter: training to how to be a podcast host. I just 513 00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:27,870 Just curious. 514 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,460 Noemi Beres: Are you doing an amazing job. And the other thing 515 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:35,070 is this, that's what I'm practicing right now to how to 516 00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:38,940 be a host. It's fun, because it's funny, because I'm always 517 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:41,160 on the other side of the microphone. So it's, it's 518 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,730 interesting. The other thing, what was what I wanted to say 519 00:31:44,790 --> 00:31:48,720 yes, about that the book. Yeah, because I'm an artist. So I make 520 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,650 collages, like digital paper, and collages, and canvas, like 521 00:31:52,650 --> 00:31:56,400 hands on collages, and canvas. I would like love to have a coffee 522 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,610 table book with all of my collages, like, you know, 523 00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:03,780 beautifully photographed. And I would love to write the story of 524 00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:07,080 each and every collages that I made, because they usually based 525 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,770 on my past about my family about my family's history, my 526 00:32:10,770 --> 00:32:13,830 memories. And I would love to include that. And that would be 527 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:16,980 like an album or something like that. But that's for the future. 528 00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:17,400 Not right. 529 00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:20,820 Janice Porter: Very cool. Well, this has been delightful. I've 530 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,230 learned a lot more about you know, me and your business. And 531 00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:29,850 I know that we're going to be staying in touch through the 532 00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:33,810 next year and see who comes on my podcast from your agency. 533 00:32:33,810 --> 00:32:37,830 It's kind of fun to to to know that. That's what you're doing. 534 00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:42,810 And I'm always open to speaking to people that come from you. So 535 00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:46,110 thank you so much for being here. Any last words for my 536 00:32:46,110 --> 00:32:46,950 audience? 537 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,100 Noemi Beres: Yes. Yeah, um, you know, my advice, just people be 538 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,490 consistent and persistent. Whatever they do. When it comes 539 00:32:56,490 --> 00:33:00,090 to podcasting, when it comes to being an entrepreneur or doing 540 00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:03,810 their art or whatever, we're exercising. It's just being 541 00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:08,100 consistent and persistent. And we always reach our goals if you 542 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,750 do that. Thank 543 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:11,820 Janice Porter: you. That's great advice. And thank you to my 544 00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:14,970 audience, again, for being loyal and for being here. And if you 545 00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:20,220 like what you heard, please let us know. And don't forget to 546 00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:22,350 stay connected and be remembered.