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And today we are so excited.

I am like jumping out of my skin excited because this week we've got a very special.

Guest of honor.

Chelsey and I are so into these special guest of honor episodes

And then we have our special versus one in five star review episodes where we explore both

So it's a very exciting extension for us to invite some very special guests of honor.

on to talk about their experiences, dealing with online reviews, from

That's right.

And with their experience in their field, we have them down there Review Queen

And today, Oh my God.

we have got the renowned legendary talent.

Of Natalie Weiss.

So let me tell you just a little smidge about Natalie.

If you've literally been living under a rock, Natalie is a song, stress and educator

Her groundbreaking and fun approach to pop technique has become a growing standard in the

She has broken down the riffs with Tori Kelly.

Who's a God.

Ben Platt, Avery Wilson, Laura Osnes.

she's also song with Jojo Pentatonix, Todrick Hall, Liz Callaway, Shoshana

Natalie has performed her solo shows to sold out audiences, literally across the

I haven't even been to like, I've literally not been to any of those places where she

Natalie has performed on Broadway in, you guys, this is literally in my top three favorite

She was also on American idol, season four, she was a semifinalist and she performed the

Now you can hear Natalie's voice on the soundtrack of The Greatest Showman in which she appeared

But most importantly of all, Natalie is the vocalist our theme song.

So without further ado, let's welcome.

Our special guest of honor, the Natalie Robin Weiss.

I didn't, I didn't know what you were going to say.

Most importantly, I was like, that is so good.

Wow.

That sounds really cool when you read my bio, but then I get, we're not even on camera.

I was so awkward.

I was like,

Yes.

kind of hard to like, sit and hear.

it's very weird.

So Natalie, you know, our show, we focus on online reviews.

So we're just curious.

How would you say your decision-making is impacted by online reviews?

Hmm.

If I'm looking at like a knee, like a massage place, that's like cheap.

I'll probably in that case, read a few I'll scroll and see like high rating, high writing.

But I don't often read many reviews minus if I'm like, if I'm in a foreign city and I'm on

But it really is about those like little underground massage places is what I can

Yeah.

Like, am I going to get killed?

Is this a legitimate place?

Those kinds of things.

Have you ever left a one-star review yourself?

I've never left a review.

I don't think.

Have you guys

Not really.

Yeah.

Trey and I are not the biggest of Review!

writers.

We're more studying the art form.

reviewers?

Yeah.

Yeah.

well.

We're going to come back to this cause we're going to get a little personal

Yeah, we don't want to get personal too early.

Exactly.

So, um, as a warmup Natalie.

Chelsey, and I like to show our diversity as Review Queen by sharing how we

So, Natalie, I'm just curious, would you like to join us as we,

Lodge A Complaint.

I would definitely like to join you for this.

Okay,

okay, good.

I'll start.

start trying,

Okay.

Today.

I really want a Lodge, A Complaint against loud talkers in public.

Have you ever been like eating salad at Sweetgreen?

And you're like with a friend and they're just speaking so loud that You start

oh my God.

I hate that.

it feels like such a helpless experience because

can you lower your voice?

I know, actually the other day, my friend in a Broadway show, long

We met for the first time and we were like, got really close and we were in a Broadway show and

Why are you screaming?

And I said it in a funny way.

And so it wasn't as rude, but I totally get you.

Do you think you're always aware when your, that person I'm aware when there's

Well, I feel like I'm always super hyper aware of how I'm being perceived,

And he was like, you're like screaming, be quiet.

And I was like, what?

But that's a great, that's a great tactic, Natalie.

Just, make the suggestion as a joke.

Like, oh my God, why are you

I use that.

I use that technique all the time.

I usually will break into like my Jewish mother dialect when I do it.

I'm like you're screaming.

Well, I guess screaming so loud, you

So That's my complaint.

Just everyone.

Let's all be a little more, aware of how loud we're belting.

Speaking of Natalie, how about you Chelsey?

What do you want to Lodge A Complaint about today?

I've been thinking about this a lot.

So I want to lodge a complaint against the phrase and philosophy that blondes have more fun.

Okay.

Here's why,

on philosophy.

right.

Like my mom is blonde.

My sister is blonde.

Both of my grandparents were blonde.

So for them, they get to experience this phrase, like Yan I'm better than you.

And I just am resentful of this.

Like, I don't understand where the case study was done.

when did people decide that if you're blonde, you're like Marilyn Monroe,

I mean, I, I mean, like, I love her.

Trey.

You've been a blonde.

Do you think that you had more fun,

I, um, I don't know.

Now that it's such a question directed to me.

I don't know.

I think I did have more fun when I was blonde, but I don't know if I just felt duped.

for some reason I feel like it is credited back to Marilyn Monroe.

I don't know why, but she also was not a natural blonde.

So.

I don't know.

I hear the complaint.

There is, it is just something in our culture about, you have to change who you are.

Everything is like You're too fat.

You're too old.

too brunette.

is bad.

All right.

Good complaint.

you.

We have we've um, we've gotten everything off of our chest today.

So, Natalie, it's your turn Lodge?

A Complaint.

I would like to Lodge A Complaint about people who don't pronounce

She was really known for that.

I listened to two very famous podcasts recently, which I'm not going to say what

And I had to turn it off because of the Eden's it's so grading to my ears.

Wait.

I literally caught myself and didn't start over.

But when I said breaking down the rafts, I said breaking down the

no break in is fine.

Cause that's like, break-in this is, I am physically enabled to put the back of my

So if you say you, is this a musical theater audience?

Okay.

I'm still hurting,

Oh yeah.

Oh Mike, so

that even?

And I haven't figured out the consistency because people I know from so

you been able to correct?

Yes.

I have worked.

I have actually posted a video about this maybe three years ago because the girl I was

So it was like

Oh,

we're having a kick ass time and being who you want

So why was the breakthrough there?

Did the person, even here they were too.

No.

She didn't know until I told her, so not to call it my friend, Carl, but he has this song.

He's unbelievable.

And he notices now, so he was saying, we're facing it now.

Let's say we're facing it now we're facing it now.

And he's saying we're facing in now.

We're facing it.

And it was so jarring that he rerecorded, not just for me.

He did another version.

but he couldn't unhear

Wow.

He could not hear it.

So the, basically the thing is like, how do you say the word ring ring?

Ring.

Ring.

then the ring singing.

And they're like, what?

This is so weird.

Yeah.

I wonder if like the Kardashians do it or something.

Like, I wonder if there's like a very specific point in pop culture

if you can figure this out, please

I personally have like a gut instinct that it's like, what is that?

That ball hanging ball.

The you, what is that call?

Yeah, I think it's that?

I think

Just blame the uvula for

no, I think it's a week.

uvula and it's, uh, it's like without using this word incorrectly, it's like a retardation of the

Ring ring.

Good.

When you do that, feel the uvula just saying I'm not a vocal coach.

You guys not even close, but it's the uveal as vault is my instinct.

That was really fun.

So now that we've kvetched.

Yes.

Let's rate and review someone else's kvetch.

Great idea.

Trey.

Natalie.

Since you are a world renowned singing teacher, I have brought in a review from the

I will read the review and together the three of us we'll break it down and rate the impact of

It's a very Regal process that we call.

Assess That Kvetch

it is your turn, Natalie to embody your Review Queen-ness

are you ready for this challenge?

Yes.

Scared.

be scared.

Review That Review.

All right.

So Natalie, when I knew that you were coming on today, I thought,

And I came across a website and the website is called actoresteticc.com They have

And I thought, okay, let me take a Gander.

The list includes a personal steamer amongst other things.

But I decided to go with the personal steamer, cause I thought maybe, you

So this is a three-star review of the Vick's personal sinus steam inhaler with soft face

Okay.

That's a mouthful.

So this review is written by geekdrop[.]com.

Now it's important for me to let you guys know.

I don't know why, but the period in.com is surrounded by brackets.

Why?

I don't know, but it just, it is.

And I want to make sure that I'm honoring the name as it, as it lies here.

So.

And this is on Amazon.

This is a three-star.

Yes, Amazon review by geekdrop[.]comped.com.

First, the good.

It will clear a nose and it's easy to use.

Now, the bad.

It will clear your nose, but you're also breathing in what seems mostly

Like maybe a 90% heat, 10% vapers, what it feels like.

For a machine developed for the sole intention of generating steam, there is NO steam.

Like really?

I could drink a hot cup of tea and fart a larger cloud of steam.

The country has been utilizing steam for centuries.

You think they'd have this down by now, but even on the high setting, if I wanted to see

In which case I think I might've seen a small whisp or two once in a while.

Mostly you just see water droplets building up in the mask to let you know

All that said, I tried to give it a fair chance and kept my face super close to it.

Even placing my face right on the mask for awhile.

And you definitely do feel the heat.

And after some time you do notice it cleared up your nostrils, but I am also a

And I wanted to get all the way down into my throat and lungs, but I really didn't notice

Which is a disappointment.

To be sure my device wasn't faulty, I went and YouTube dub bunch of user videos

Therefore, I think it's just not much of a steam creator.

I was expecting PLUMES of steam to come out of one of these things.

If you set it on high with the ability to dial it back as needed, almost like you see from

It comes with a menthol pad to use.

I tried that and wasn't really fond.

That's just a personal preference though.

I know there's a whole essential oils culture out there right now, but for some reason I get

I prefer to try to keep my lungs as pristine as possible.

Though, I still like that the option is there if wanting to use it.

Ultimately I returned it and I'm going to try a different brand that I saw on YouTube that

My final verdict is yes, it will work, but don't expect to see much, IF ANY

Wow.

How much time does that person have,

I know that was so

literally who would write that long?

Review!.

I'm really struck by the fact that they were bragging

I know.

I

and then they returned the product.

can't!' you catch the flu from isn't that.

Oh, and

I

contagious?

The flu

oh, good point.

So they use that, they spread all their flu germs all over it, and

That's gross.

Natalie, what do you know about these like personal face steamers as a singer?

I have the, MyPureMist, which is apparently like the only one to

So

your steamer produce a lot of steam?

it, it produces steam.

Plumes??

plumes.

I like, I love I like to take off the mask to just drink the straw, but, um, no, not maybe plumes.

Maybe you need

Like you could see it.

If you didn't put it against a black surface, the amount of science, you know what I mean?

I really feel like that's why geekdrop[.]com is geekdrop[.]com because they seemed like they

How old do you think geekdrop[.]com is?

25.

I don't know.

What do you think?

Are you getting older?

I w I felt younger until he said, cutie patootie, young kids with vapes,

Cause I feel like I call the kids that vape kids.

Yeah.

Same Trey, like, I, this whole time was picturing like a young snooty college student

But then when I got to the 2d fruity part, I was like, is this a 50 year old man?

I don't like, I don't, I, I, I felt like I didn't even know,

you know,

It's also curious to me that they were like, it produces a

So I had to press my face right on the mask.

What didn't You think you would put your

You literally

Yeah.

I w I thought that too, I was like, where are you holding your face?

Like

He thinks it's going across the

I don't, I don't know, but it's like, it just doesn't make any sense.

Like, why do you think the mask is soft?

It's soft so that you can put your

face

on it?

Also, this whole thing about they can drink a cup of tea and then fart

No, that was another question far more seem.

I mean, I just think it was the geekiest joke I've ever read.

You know, I just think geekdrop[.]com was really trying to bring on the comedy and

Yeah.

I was going to say that about the humor.

I think it's pretty low on humor, but okay.

What about the value?

Because I think I am feeling like perhaps, like maybe I wouldn't want to try vex and then

Yeah.

I mean, I've heard mixed about it because it is salt.

My peer mist is between one 50 and 200 and VIX is probably 25.

Right,

Right,

but some people just are like, I just need some steam who cares,

right, right, right.

Well, right.

Cause I feel like this personal steamer, which this is, is not going to produce plumes.

If you want plumes, then you're going to get like an actual VIX, like for the room, right?

Like a humidifier for nighttime.

Yeah.

Do we trust geekdrop[.]com?

Cause I feel like our trust in them is, is waning as they go on.

I feel split about that because I do feel like they, I mean, this is so lengthy.

They really went through a lot of effort.

So it makes me think they've done a little bit of work here to form this opinion.

Yeah,

a little bit of like a judgment with me of like somebody who

And so I'm still like how long.

Did they spend on that?

If I was like, this is literally the worst service I've ever experienced in my life, do not go there.

Maybe one more sentence is the longest Review!

I'd leave.

Right.

If you were to see a Review!

as long as geekdrop[.]coms, what'd you be like not reading that Review!

I think I would read it if it's, I would be curious to see the one-star

I wouldn't read everyone

And this is a three-star review.

You should note, do we feel like three stars are the appropriate amount?

for that long.

I feel like maybe he thought it was

Yeah.

I don't get three stars from this.

They returned the product.

Yeah, I feel like this is a one star Ms.

Qualified as a Three,, which doesn't happen often.

Usually it's the other way

Wait, so do we think that this is a common experience or do we think it's a flu?

I feel like, I wonder if geekdrop bracket dot bracket com got a faulty product.

I don't know.

I just feel like it wasn't working because they have the flu.

Oh

I'm so grossed out now by the fact that they returned the product after they had

All right.

Last thing.

What's the spelling grammar like,

excellent.

Solid score.

on, on spelling and grammar.

Hmm.

All right, Natalie, any final thoughts before we go on to crowning?

All right.

I think we're ready.

yeah, I think I can crown it too.

All right.

So Chelsey, Natalie and I each have our own set of one to five crown cards.

In an effort to be fair and not influence one another.

We will simultaneously reveal our writings.

Did I say it.

wrong again?

you said it's weird.

You said influence, but it's you didn't say the

But that's what he says.

Insurance

I'll know you say insurance.

I say, see Matt instead of

What's

Halloween, Halloween.

influence.

Jersey

Delete you don't say EAN.

A'..

Okay.

Here we go.

Okay.

The Queens.

Tabulating.

Oh my goodness.

Trey.

Okay.

So Trey is holding up four crowns, Natalie, two crowns, and I'm holding up one and a half crowns.

I'm the outlier.

mean the real ally, I was shocked,

Wow.

I'm shocked for

Right.

Natalie, let us know that it's high, I think, but Trey will defend himself in a second.

So Natalie, let us know why you gave geekdrop[.]com two crowns.

Honestly, he wasted too much of my time.

Um,

Okay.

It just was too long.

Like we get it.

You don't like it.

Yes.

Okay.

That's fair.

Trey.

Let's hear

it.

right.

I, I said four, I took one crown off because it.

was way too lengthy as well.

But the fact that they went on YouTube, the fact that they tried the product, I feel

So I think it would give me pause.

That's the impact for me?

So I said four, but Yeah.

I am still turnt about the fact returned it.

That's so disgusting.

Chelsey, why did you say one and a half?

Okay, I hear you try it.

I want to validate your opinion because I do think that there are people out there

So for those people, maybe this would be a four for me.

It was a one and a half geek job.com was like attempting to make me laugh on successfully.

The flu thing really gross me out.

I gave them one crown because the spelling and grammar was really good.

I threw on an extra half crown because it was a three-star, Review!

not a One,.

So they were at least acknowledging a few times in the Review!

that it kind of works.

Like it did clear my, my nostrils up.

Right.

So for that, I decided to give them the one and a half crown, but I

So that's it.

That's my decision.

Yeah.

All right, everyone.

So we're going to take a quick break.

And when we return, Natalie Weiss has agreed to share a Review That she herself has received

Oh, boy, I cannot wait to crown that we will be right back.

Hold your crown we'll be right back.

It's game time.

All right, Natalie and Chelsey, it is time for us to take a quick spin on the Meryl.

Go round.

I love this.

'I don't feel like an icon.

Here's the deal.

Trey has picked a rotten scathing, pithy One-Star-Zinger for Natalie and himself.

And with 30 seconds on the clock, they'll take turns, trying to recite the zinger

Just like queen Meryl Streep, who does it all, including singing.

before the clock runs out.

Okay.

Natalie, I just texted you a review that says zinger.

Okay.

right, Natalie, since you're our guest of honor, I would love it.

If you would go first today, and can you let us know?

Where is your zinger from?

So this is a one-star review for vocal ease Amazon product.

And this is from Jessie S, "IT DIDN'T WORK MY VOICE IS STILL HOARSE NO CHANGE."

it's not an all caps.

Wow.

Okay,

right.

Natalie, we got to strap you into something before you got on the Meryl-Go-Round.

fling off.

Yeah, We don't have liability insurance.

So I'm picturing like a bedazzled microphone.

Okay.

So like sort of like an, like a nod to Whitney Houston.

So strap yourself in.

Okay.

Are you ready?

Three, Two,.

Jazz singer

it didn't work level is still so home.

There's no change.

Am I doing it to this music?

Okay.

country,

And then

Brittany

it didn't work.

AHPRA, diva.

Oh, my God.

I like, I think I might just have to like pay extra to hear you do

Oh, my God.

I was so nervous because you know why I heard the key of the other song and I was like, I have to

I can see kept repeating the same

first of all that Brittany was like epic.

So you got four Natalie, but I don't know, like, if you will let us, I would

I want to, I want to do more.

Okay.

Okay, good.

I want you I'm like so excited.

So if you're not on Patreon, this is a really good reason to join All

believe I have to follow that.

got to follow that act.

So with that in mind, I'm going to strap you into a Mike with Auto-Tune just so like it can

You're welcome.

Just high belt, just high belt, Trey.

All right.

So today my zinger is also from amazon.com and this is for the Andover pipe,

Oh my

this is written by Tim lover and the one-star reviews subject is, does not work.

And the Review!

is had to blow hard and long, not helpful.

Okay.

Okay.

Moving on, Trey.

Are you ready?

Okay, Here we

go.

Here we

Three, Two, One, GO!.

Heavy metal.

Hey,

so

I'm like, I am so embarrassed and I'm friends with

literally, what are you talking about?

I can't even built that high stop.

I'm not giving you Natalie.

Cause you didn't get it in time.

So Trey.

No, no, no.

I'm not giving him the point

that's fair.

No, it's

which is

fair because he came in, he came in after the buzzer

And you know, I'm the one that's judging this.

So that's only fair.

So that means that it's a tie divas just saying Trey, I think the Auto-Tune helped.

That's all I'm gonna say about that.

I agree.

Review That Review.

All right.

We are back from that rousing game break and now it's time to get a little more personal, but

Let's hear a clip from.

So sometimes when I feel down, I like to go on the internet and

now everybody's entitled to their opinions.

That's what we're here to talk about.

And why are these?

Natalie has a fierce belt, a fierce, fierce nose.

And it's totally nice.

Maybe busy, maybe not the prettiest girl ever, but certainly a great

Oh, my God.

uh,

girl who needs to eat.

Stop.

tell us about the creation of doing the mashup of bugaboo scrubs

How did you get the idea?

How has it evolved, et cetera?

Well, I have used mean commons in my shows for so long.

I had put the mean comments to something else.

I'm not sure.

And then I realized the way that I already started a song as like a ballad.

Like you make me want to throw my pager out the window.

Very, very deep.

I knew I needed, like, I guess zinger is a different, I use it as like a, like the

Everything is fine.

You know, trying to kind of take the high

Yeah.

What's the general reception, like

they love it.

I just love that you're doing this because the thing that brings me the

Kind of dismantle them.

And I really think that that's what you do.

Not only are you dismantling the insanity of someone going on the internet

And by doing that, giving permission to other people, to like, hold that

You know, we always on the show, it's saying, ignore the haters.

You're a queen, but it's true.

Like you are embodying that.

And I think there's so much power in that.

It really makes the rest of us feel like, okay, I can have a thicker skin.

I mean, that's like a really awesome way of putting it.

Like thank you.

But I have to say I have the thinnest skin, like.

Of anyone.

So when I re like, I remember where I was when I saw a girl who did you eat?

And it crushed me.

And then now, because it is absolutely absurd years later, I was like, this is insane.

Of course, I'm going to use this in my show.

There are some comments I won't read that are too truthful to my own insecurities

And I'm like, oh, I read me for Phil.

But the ones that are like insanely, like how would anyone ever write that?

What are you saying?

Those are the ones, but the ones that are really, really dig deep, like I need to

So it's, I'm glad I can do that after the fact, but I'm definitely not like that.

These people I'm not like that at all right

I really recommend everyone go to YouTube type in Natalie Weiss mean comments.

It's the first video that comes up.

She's wearing white.

But even though, like you said, like, oh, like, I'm glad you see it that way,

I think that like that's even more brave and more true.

It's like, yeah, I feel terrible when I read this and I'm not going to just sit

Yeah, thanks.

All right with that in mind.

Okay.

With, With, all of that background in mind, Natalie, we asked you to bring

That was either a harsh critic or an MVR, which is the most valuable reviewer.

Which is basically a negative or a positive review that you have personally received.

And then it just like before we, well,

Assess That kvetch.

Then after Trey and I have crowned, we will ask you to share with us

was on you.

So, Natalie, what have you asked Trey to read?

So in 2014, eight years ago, I was doing two cabarets at this Houston

I got a tweet from the reviewer that said, check this out, Natalie.

And so I clicked on it.

Long story short, you'll hear the Review!

They tweeted it at me.

Oh, okay.

So I was like, what's this?

Hi.

All right.

Okay, so you got this.

So this is a harsh critic and you got this the morning before you had

I had to do another show, the exact same concert.

All right.

So this is a BroadwayWorld Cabaret Review.

This is written by David C.

And the subject is 'Natalie Weiss's Personality Overshadows Vocal Talent In Houston Cabaret.

Here we go.

a YouTube sensation, many are familiar with Natalie Weiss's voice and face, and

Yet, somewhere along the way, her abrasive personality overshadowed her vocal talent.

Don't get me wrong.

The brash new Englander is my favorite form of American.

I enjoy the stereotypical confidence and charisma of the typical Northeasterner.

However, when one comes on stage to sing for an audience, that is what I expect to happen.

It's easy enough to forgive the 17 minute delay at the beginning of the concert.

Well, that is until the first act wrapped in about 35 minutes.

The second act of dragged out a bit longer as Natalie Weiss added a song to

She also returned for a three song Encore.

Even with this, the concerts still ended at the stroke of 10:00 PM.

Meaning between banter and singing.

Last nights, audience got approximately 88 minutes of Natalie Weiss on stage.

Moreover, Natalie Weiss's banter didn't really hook the audience in Houston.

It took almost the entirety of the first act for the crowd to warm up to her.

Before the act one closer, she read actual messages from her OkCupid inbox.

This was Natalie Weiss at her most genuine.

I get that quote, all the world's a stage and her job is to perform.

However, the beauty of an intimate cabaret concert is that you get to be real.

Others treat the experience like they are performing in their

And that dynamic is what seemed to be missing the most from last night's concert.

Moreover.

a second moreover, her Encore was a fun selection of audience favorites.

It started with a lovely take on, Bring Him Home from Les Miserables, but the song fell apart for

Then she closed with her take on Demi Lovato's Skyscraper.

I can't deny that the vocal performances that she offered were thrilling.

Natalie Weiss also deftly delivered many, an impressive vocal riff,

She made the performance fund by walking through the crowd to get to the stage.

Her Spark of Creation from Children of Eden was captivating.

My favorite performance of hers was the energetic and colorful mashup she did of

Even with the impressive vocals, her need to stop and restart some songs

It also rubs me the wrong way when she called out David Lerner on the drums twice for

At least she tried to cover it in jest, attempting to make a joke out of it by

However it was her declaration of quote.

'Usually I don't do this.

Normally, I can't talk by now!' At the beginning of the Encore that really raised my

This concert in Houston, wasn't a total bust.

The audience got to hear some sturdy vocal performances, the teenagers

Everyone had some laughs.

However, I'd hazard a guess that Natalie Weiss, who seemed truly to be performing

I'm so mad at David.

See, I need to like take a breath.

too.

really super long Review!, but I, okay.

I'm curious because I feel like David contradicts themselves because they say

And then later as like, how dare her be casual,

Yeah.

Oh, wait, how dare her?

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm not going to.

So I have so many thoughts now, first of all, his assessment is so

I was turned off by this, but then proceeds to list a bunch of things that he likes.

He also says that the audience as a whole, because suddenly they've all

But then was like, they got to see their hero and they were so excited and we all had some

I literally was going to mention that because first of all, David approaches this

a bizarre point.

If you're trying to like, Review!

something, but they separate themselves from the audience, which I think is bizarre,

That's the first sentence.

But then yeah, no, they just, it seems very contradictory.

I also think it's completely bizarre that they bragged about loving the

That that's their favorite and then had a problem because they found Natalie brash.

I don't know.

David.

See, I think you're shady.

And I think you can go ahead and leave.

David's say

I just, one other little thing that jumps out to me is, um, you know,

And so when you see them and a concert, you know, they, they mentioned how the

Which how do you know that?

But like, let it go.

Like, I think there's maybe like a handful of people that can sing that.

And then, I mean, here we go.

It says, let it go.

Skyscraper.

Natalie holds like a G sharp or

something crazy.

It's like titanium.

That's like Jennifer, Hudson C uh, like crazy people sink.

That's not an easy, it's like all of these songs, the spark of creation, they are

It's not like Natalie's going out singing lullabies.

Like I don't understand the whole judgment about her offering three songs as an Encore and making

No, there are so many things in this Review!

that are contradictory.

So I don't, I immediately don't trust the author.

I also really hated the entire section where they were talking about if she knew the proper way to

All of a sudden, Natalie doesn't have the technique to get through these songs.

Like give me a break, David.

See, I want to see you get up there and sing all those songs and not have a moment where

I was like, blessed enough to see Whitney Houston.

And she had taken many minutes to be like, oh, that was a song.

Give me a second.

I'm going to have some water.

Like, what is it that you're expecting?

I don't think you're honoring the crowd of people that are going to this show that want to be there.

And if you don't want to be there, then you shouldn't be there.

And that's why I don't trust him.

Well, that's why I also think there's something wrong with the value here,

So the value that you're adding feels mean like an unnecessary, okay.

Obviously spelling and grammar is great because I'm sure BroadwayWorld

I mean, I think it's shady.

I think they're just intentionally like having a superior attitude and like

I mean, based on the fact that David C excludes themselves from the crowd makes

Oh, is that something you guys do with all the reviews?

I love that.

Okay.

yeah,

And then humor where you entertained.

I mean,

no.

I was like stunned to silence.

A mad,

And then final question before we crown, is what's the impact?

Is this a deal breaker?

It makes me like, it's interesting because I think the intention of the Review!

it's flipped for me because it makes me feel defensive of the artist and that

And that's really maddening.

You know, it is interesting, cause this is like about an art form.

So then it gets subjective and people have, see what they want to, you know, it's

So like this is a deal breaker for me.

I think it's a deal breaker for me for reviews from this reviewer.

Agreed.

Totally

All right, well I'm ready to crown.

Do you want a crown?

I am ready to crown.

Yes.

here we go.

All right, let's do it.

The Queens are Tabulating.

Okay.

I'm committing a show first.

I

want you to know Natalie.

This is a show first and I am giving David C zero crowns, zero crowds,

What

Yep.

Trey.

tell us about the show first.

I swear my life.

I'm not just saying this because Natalie is sitting here.

as a performer.

I'm so like trigger warning about these type of reviews and I'm so mad.

I don't think there's any value here.

I don't think we're tapping into the audience.

I think David C can go ahead and go home.

And for that reason, zero crowns, David.

See, do better.

a

And I did a half crown because I think the only value here is that I get

So I feel like I would fit in with the crowd.

Like I think that I would also be like, oh my God.

Oh my God, it's she's doing

let it go.

Oh my God.

And it makes me feel like I'm more of a fan because I felt like this

And that makes me feel like I'm closer to the person.

I'm a fan of, because I want to like, make it better,

you know,

Agreed.

And

Sorry, I'm typing.

I'm writing notes.

Cause you have so many good points.

that was a lot, but, but I want to just say like quickly again, like I'm not

I don't give them any credit for that because I think that's expected as a part of the assignment.

I will just throw in.

I don't know how this works.

I, I don't know if BroadwayWorld commissions reviews.

I don't know.

I, I don't know if you're right or wrong.

I'm just throwing out.

I don't know how it works to be a contributor for BroadwayWorld.

So I just want to clear the air.

Okay.

So show first, zero and a half crown, which is insane.

So first of all, Natalie, thank you for being vulnerable and sharing this.

I know that like, we've been sort of tiptoeing around this, this whole second half of

People are very forthcoming behind keyboards and you have handled a lot of

And so since we have you, we want to know what the impact of this.

You, you mentioned you got this in between two performances, so take us back to 2014.

And what was, why was that?

Sorry.

I did a lot alongside, I need a water.

Um, okay.

First of all, thank you for pushing me to do this because as Trey

I'm super triggered by this Review!

because I don't really talk about it.

And it's also on the internet for life

and it was so hurtful and I like, I know who they are and I never talked about it again.

I don't want any, any fights with anyone, but.

So I'll take you back and then I'll say, first of all, thank you guys,

And I know like, you know, I just met you, but Trey and I have known each other for so long.

And obviously I know you're, my friends are going to give it a zero Review!,

blah, blah, blah, or a crown.

But it is interesting objectively the things you're saying, I'm like, yeah, you're right.

I did feel that way.

But basically when I saw the tweet, I opened it being like, oh my God, I got it.

And then I just like, saw it.

And I was like, Andrew, Andrew.

And he was like, Natalie, why did you Google your name?

And I was like, what do you mean?

I'm not just searching mean comments.

Like that's like, no.

And so I had to like tell the producers.

That I was like, this is insane.

I can't believe I have to go back and do this again.

Like, and the thing is, it's not, she can't act, I've heard enough of that.

It was like a direct attack of me as a person.

So it feels so, so personal.

And I had to do the exact same show and I was like, so in my head, and then the person who

Nobody felt that way.

Literally nobody, they loved it because I had such a high meeting the

Like I did it, I got through it.

I was singing.

Um, bring him home then as with a fuck you in my head of what, this is my interpretation of

On the other hand, I will say I took it as a learning experience because.

Um,

To defend myself.

One, Trey has seen many of my shows and I hope that he would attest to part of

I am chilling out in my living room.

Me self-deprecating is on brand of like, oh my God, Ooh, lost my voice cracked.

Oh, that is more to me.

I'm not going to change that.

That is more like, I'm perfect.

I'm going to crack.

I'm going to joke.

I literally inhaled my spit on an inhale.

I distinctly remember when I went, sorry, because that's, it's not, I'm not in a Broadway show where

like, I can't leave the stage.

I actually can ban.

So that was just like, take a seat off of your high horse.

I am totally self-deprecating and joking where I can learn is like, yes, the

He missed, messed up two things.

And I definitely, I will take that as a, I probably can't ever call them out.

Of course I did it in jest because that's my humor.

I wasn't like, excuse me, where my backup singers.

I wasn't like, excuse me, somebody singing my note or like you played the wrong thing.

I was like, oh, where'd you go or something shady.

But I would say, I would learn from that.

I probably won't ever do that again because that rubbed him the wrong way.

And he is allowed to be rubbed that what seemed like bitchy to a

We kind of bonded me and the drummer.

I thought that we have this rapport.

I think that's probably why I was like, we had spent two days together.

So I thought maybe we had that rapport okay.

I don't remember why we started 17 minutes late.

Maybe it was the venue.

Maybe I, I don't even know why the whole I'm singing.

If she really knew how to sing really gets me.

I can't with that.

The thing was that I had to do it again.

That was super hard.

Um, and he didn't get it.

That, that's the thing that really hurt the fact that like, I think the audience was

I started second guessing everything.

I was like, everything he said is right.

Everything he said is right.

I will never do that again.

Not fuck him.

It was.

And now looking back, like hearing like objective, like wait, huh.

You know, so.

I mean, I'm just, I'm so glad we could do that for you because it's like

So I, you know, I empathize.

Right, right, right.

And something you said at the very beginning is like, what do you

Like, I think that is something that's very key, especially in a world that is musical

We think things are a certain way.

And where is the creative license?

And you weren't doing Les MIS you were doing a concert and you were singing a male song.

So like, why can't you do what you want to

I don't know the definition of cabaret, but I think any cabaret that

I mean, who wants to hear a straight classic over and over again?

We've all heard it before.

We're coming to the cabaret to hear a different take on it.

I have a question.

Did you alter the show at all?

Oh, for the second day,

Yeah.

And then in general, moving forward, cause you said it was a lot, there were a lot of blessings

I probably didn't start 17 minutes late.

You know what I mean?

Like who knows?

Um,

were singing when they were walking in.

like literally,

You're like I'm early.

and then, yeah, exactly.

Um,

So no, not

really.

You were able to

I definitely, probably didn't call off the drummer,

Right.

you know,

I feel like, I guess like, we've talked about how you do

what would your advice be to your younger self?

Like how do you keep producing and not hiding in a hole somewhere?

I guess people have said to me, if you're on the internet, the more known

And so you're doing something right.

If people are talking, but it's hard because not everyone can like you, you can't serve everyone.

I'm like, oh, what do you mean?

You

Right.

Yeah, no, I do now.

I also just, I want to end this little section here.

Yes.

Obviously, like you're sitting here with us, but I would just say as authentic as possible.

I remember when David and I went to see your show at the high line and we were in the front row

and I feel like, um, I feel like I'm getting emotional, but I feel

What your specific talent that you just like God given possess.

And it was like, it makes me feel emotional because I feel like so many

So it makes me feel really crazy that someone wouldn't get that or what twist it in a

Like it pains me because it's just a waste of energy and time.

totally agree.

if we could just all add positivity, like we wouldn't have this

It's like, what's the point at the end of the day?

Totally.

Yes.

I concur with all of that.

Okay.

Let's All right.

Let's move on.

All right.

Let's everybody grab some tissues.

All right.

We're going to crank up the heat.

Yeah.

If you thought that burner was all the way up, you're wrong.

Cause there's a few more levels.

So Natalie, We have some questions for you,

We have some very serious questions.

Not only it's time for some strong opinions.

We want to hear your first gut reaction.

There's no wrong answer.

Just your immediate.

Chelsey, and I will alternate pulling questions out

We're going to put 60 seconds on the clock and you will try to answer as many of these

And if you get more than eight, we're going to send you a five crown t-shirt in the mail.

Are you ready?

Yeah.

Virbrato or straight tone

Love on top.

or Bohemian Rhapsody,

Love on top.

food poisoning from a restaurant.

What'd you go back

No

Streisand or saline,

saline,

Rodgers and Hammerstein or Sondheim,

sung through or a book musical

book, musical

bachelor, or bachelorette.

bachelor.

Apennine or Elphaba

Lose your voice or lose your savings.

this might savings.

One song for internety.

She used to be mine.

or waving through a window

She used to be mine.

Yeah,

Judy,

fast virbrato or slow vibrato.

slow vibrato,

prison with a lead reviewer status.

Is that a turn on

or turn

turn off.

I guess

That's

are so clever who wrote those?

We both dead.

You guys are so clever.

4 5, 6, you got six of mine.

so funny.

Cause normally I'm either or I'm like neither.

And I was like, so clear about

some

got seven of mine out all you, so you crushed,

you got

Natalie.

nah,

Oh

Wait, can I ask you one more that we didn't get American idol or the voice

Oh, the voice.

I have three more.

should I do?

yell?

Let's just do them.

Singing on a cruise ship or singing at a theme park.

Theme park.

you see an ENT with a three-star rating,

No

Under study or swing.

understanding.

final question, flat or sharp.

sharp.

Okay.

Oh, interesting.

We had a lot of fun making those up.

Yeah.

Sweet dad.

Great job, Natalie.

You have officially proven yourself to be a certifiable Queen.

Thank

you have earned yourself a five crown.

Whew.

That will be in the mail on its way to you.

So Natalie, now that you have been queened, we have reached

Is there someone or something that you think is deserving of five crowns?

Who are you inducting today for?

My Royal Highness

I will be giving five stars to MealPrepChef.

They are a company started by a girl that went to Penn state under me, Alyssa and I have been

And if my teaching days are crazy, it sounds very bougie, but it's kind of really affordable.

And she has a bunch of chefs.

So I have a personal chef sounds again, but I, and that personal chef, like

And it's based customized menus based on what you need.

So like I'm doing whole 30 paleo, but if you're like, I'm gluten free or I

I get delivered meals every week but they usually cook in your home and it's an

And the food is as I quote trademark moldable.

wow.

love that.

I'm going to look into that cause you know, David and I do eat clean

Yes.

Yeah.

What a worthy induction.

It sounds like if it's moldable.

Moldable.

All right.

So that's it.

We did it.

That is another round on the R U a R Q Ferris wheel of life.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

Natalie

for having me.

where they can find You et cetera,

You can find me at on socials, the Natalie Weiss, and you can

or they can find you at NatalieWeissVoice.com.

yes.

That's where my online course.

Oh, cool.

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Oh, my God.

I, even as she's joking,

I know, I know me jail.

It's amazing.