Cool.
Speaker BSo episode 38, we're going to talk about branding and we're going to talk about being uncouppable.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd let's get started.
Speaker DIf you covered your name and your picture, would people be able to see that this specific content actually came from you?
Speaker DIf not, maybe you shouldn't have it on your platform.
Speaker BSuper interesting.
Speaker BToday we're going to talk about everything, about being uncouppable, making sure that you stand out and create really, really great and heavy marketing that pulls people in, which is one of the most important factors to make your coaching business run smoothly.
Speaker BWe are just coming out of our bootcamp three days, working with our clients on this theme of becoming marketing heavy and making sure that we are making marketing a core piece of our existence with the realization that we're going to help so many more people with our marketing than our clients.
Speaker BThe question then is, what do I need to do in my marketing and what does my marketing need to look like in order for that to even become possible?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BBecause if you're just a part of, like everyone else sending out noise that is being looked over or bypassed by almost everyone, then you got up your game.
Speaker BBecause 2025, where we're moving towards them with AI and more noise, more content, more people believing that they can become content creators.
Speaker DWe need quality in order to build a personal brand.
Speaker DWe need to stand for something.
Speaker DWe need to be clear who we are, what we believe, what we stand for, what we do not stand for, who we are, and we need to be very clear.
Speaker DI think you said it a lot of times when we've been having these episodes, talking about, like, being clear before you allowed.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker DTaking that personal brand and making it to your content, how does that show in your content, as you said?
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DThere is a lot of AEI generated content and I understand it.
Speaker DAnd it's same thing has been happening to us because we were recording these podcast episodes and to save ourselves time, I have a little bit of help from ChatGPT and turn it into content, and then we got the email, turn.
Speaker BIt into emails and turn it into.
Speaker DEmail, and then turn it down, that email down to it.
Speaker DSo it got diluted and diluted.
Speaker DAnd even though we split speak here, that's you and me.
Speaker DLet's be giving away our voice and what we believe in and what we stand for at these podcasts.
Speaker DLike, this is the raw episode and raw foundation of who we are and what we stand for.
Speaker DIt got diluted.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker DInto our content.
Speaker DIf you feel like you're a little bit uncertain about, like, I'm not good at writing content or I'm not creative.
Speaker DAnd we all have those days where we don't feel like creative and, you know, I need to get the content out and I'm not creative.
Speaker DI don't know what to write about and all of that.
Speaker DAnd it's so easy to just open chat dbt and say, hey, make a piece of content about this thing.
Speaker DBut it's not personal.
Speaker DIt's just so generic.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BLike you said, we need to show what we stand for, but we also need to show what we stand against.
Speaker BAnd we need to be opinionated.
Speaker BWe need to have strong opinions, and we need to put more weight into our marketing and.
Speaker BAnd what it is that we are communicating, because otherwise we will never, ever be someone who people wants to follow.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd when it comes to figuring out what do I stand for or what do I stand against, you need to create a context where you are literally testing yourself out in different circumstances to see within what context do you stand for.
Speaker DWhat we work with the clients in this weekend, and I think it was really funny working with coaches.
Speaker DWe.
Speaker DWhat I realized is once we got them through some exercises to work with, what do they believe?
Speaker DLike, what do they really stand for?
Speaker DBecause I believe everyone has a stand within the niche you work with, you have a clear stand.
Speaker DWhat it is that some people believe and teach that you believe is absolutely bull.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker DWhat I realized is that there is just so many coaches that are so polite, they don't want to be.
Speaker DBe seen as not being supportive or disagreeable.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DThey don't want to.
Speaker DSo this is exactly what happens.
Speaker DIt's about telling your TR truth and speak it out loud, not hiding it and trying to please everyone in your content.
Speaker DBecause when we try to please everyone, it's not you.
Speaker DIt's a vague version of you.
Speaker BOur opinions, even if they are controversial or not controversial, they are coloring everything that you do and everything that you've done in order to get to where you are.
Speaker BAnd if you're a coach, that is a part of the ingredients that allows your future clients to get all the way to where you are as well.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's not about being a bad person or a good person.
Speaker BIt's understanding what do I need to leverage of myself in order to take my next step.
Speaker BActually stumbled across an old training we made, and that training four years ago was about motives, and we spoke about motives, and we have those nice motives.
Speaker BThe thing that motivates us and moves Us forward that are cute and cuddly, like, oh, I want to change the world.
Speaker BI want to feed the hungry.
Speaker BI want to end world.
Speaker DI want to pretty wise world.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe pretty wise.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BBut then on the other side of the same thing, we have the ugly.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BAnd it's just as important to understand that we have motivators that doesn't look as nice.
Speaker BAnd one of them for me has always been, am I enough?
Speaker BLike, can I be a part of the group?
Speaker BWill I be accepted for who I am?
Speaker BWe understand that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo we are conditioning our behavior with all the beautiful wise, the pretty wise, and we are also conditioning our behaviors with all the ugly reasons to why we behave the way we do.
Speaker AMm.
Speaker BAnd when we're putting all of those ingredients together, you're getting the outcomes that you now have in your life today, good and bad.
Speaker BAnd that is one part of your secret sauce that could add some spice to your content.
Speaker DHow do you add that to your content?
Speaker DHow do you take that from your world and put it into your content so it becomes you?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo one of the ways of doing it is to be blunt.
Speaker BWho do we have in the coaching space that is blunt?
Speaker BGrant Cardone is one of them.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker BVery blunt.
Speaker BDoesn't really give much care to who says what and who cares about whatever.
Speaker BSpeaks very, very clearly about the American 401k.
Speaker BHe's against millionaires and he is for billionaires.
Speaker BHe is about 10xing everything.
Speaker DAnd cash is king.
Speaker BCash is king.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BOne way is to be blunt.
Speaker BBut again, in order for you to be loud about something, you need to be clear first.
Speaker BTake a second.
Speaker BYou can pause this podcast for a second and think, what do you really stand for that isn't conventional, that isn't really the norm, but that you really believe in?
Speaker BWhat if you had a reason to believe why toothbrushing wasn't the most efficient way to keep your dental hygiene?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThen say that and see what kind of responses you get.
Speaker BI haven't brushed my teeth in, like, in 18 weeks.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker BIf we were to have a better option.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BIt's not socially accepted.
Speaker DSo having a brand voice or having your voice heard is speaking your truth, your opinion, and putting your insights into your content, your point of view into content.
Speaker DIt's about saying things only you can see.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker DBecause it's your opinion, it's your experience, it's your insights.
Speaker DYou're sharing in your content.
Speaker BWhy is it only you that can say it?
Speaker DNo one else is living my life and seeing it from My perspective and have my opinion about it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThey can't back it up with reason.
Speaker DSay the things that only you can say.
Speaker DJust doing that and you are standing out in the crowd of AI generated content.
Speaker DI care what you think, what you believe, because it says who you are as a character, as a person.
Speaker BAnd it creates reactions and those reaction creates emotions.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd emotion creates connection.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd that connection is what makes people follow you.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker BSo either they're going to follow you because they disagree or they're going to follow you because you're agreeing.
Speaker BYou don't have to sell the coaching to people who disagree, but you're definitely going to be able to sell your coaching without an effort to the people who are agreeing.
Speaker DWhen you speak these things that only you can say, like where do you find your inspiration?
Speaker DIt's easy.
Speaker DIt's live your life and how do you live your life as a coach?
Speaker DYou have a life besides doing coaching, but you also spend time with your clients.
Speaker DIf you go through your week, you spend a lot of time having chats with clients, helping clients with their questions.
Speaker DAnd when you sit in with your clients, I bet there's not one coach who's in a room with a client and a client ask a question who's not willing to share their opinion or share their insights and give away their insights to the client.
Speaker DAnd since we're doing it already internally, inside our courses, inside our programs, towards our clients is literally just about taking.
Speaker BThat out to your inter marketing and content into your.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWhat you can do as well is that you can look at the journey that your clients are taking as well as look at your own journey and see what common truths are there around this area, what is commonly taught by others or what is the general advice.
Speaker BAnd you can ask that.
Speaker BChatGPT can help you to navigate and figure out what are the general ideas, what are the general truths, what is accepted way of approaching this kind of problem.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DWhat do you hear your competitors are saying in their marketing?
Speaker DWhat do you hear the clients are saying?
Speaker BAnd then figure out why do you agree or why do you disagree?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo I actually have a lot of both coaching friends and coaching clients are doing well in their businesses just because they are taking advice that is out there from other people's content.
Speaker BAnd then they do a reaction video on that.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd emphasize so why is this true?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd then they're stating their opinion based on someone else's truth that you agree with.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd you can also take someone who says something that you don't agree with.
Speaker BAnd you can do the same thing.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BYou can quote people and your two cents.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BTo that quote both in whatever way that you want to.
Speaker BI agree.
Speaker BI disagree.
Speaker BThe better you become at picking apart those common beliefs that exist within your market, the easier it is for you to grab attention.
Speaker BAnd there are so many common beliefs of how to behave in a relationship or how to navigate the business or whatever kind of coach you are.
Speaker DA lot of people are just saying, yeah, that's easy.
Speaker DI'm going to do that one day when I have time.
Speaker DAnd because we realized it was so embarrassing with the things we've been sending out, like we really did not like the image we've been sending out, the content we've been sending out.
Speaker DSo we took it back and I can assure you we saw the results of it immediately.
Speaker DOur click through rates are higher.
Speaker DOur open rates are higher.
Speaker DMore people are watching our content because we made it.
Speaker DAnd as the owner of your coaching business, you have two primary jobs.
Speaker DHelp your clients and do marketing and get more clients and get more clients.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DThat's what you should do.
Speaker DAnd all of this is about the same.
Speaker DIt's the same things you talk to your clients about, you do in marketing.
Speaker DAnd no, you're not giving away your course in your marketing because it's short form content of a one minute piece of content or one post that is your entire coaching program.
Speaker DYou need to take a look into your program because then you probably need to add a little bit more value.
Speaker DI don't believe that for one second.
Speaker DIt's a limiting belief.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd I would say that we have about 10 hours of material in our podcast.
Speaker BIf you look from first episode to this episode, and it doesn't even come close to touch on anything of everything that we do.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker BBut we are not holding back.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo anything that we truly believe and that we know is working, we're giving it away within a context so that it's applicable.
Speaker BBut it isn't at all coming close to comparing to any of our programs or processes that we help our clients through.
Speaker BGive your best stuff.
Speaker BThat's something that I learned from Alex Hormosi.
Speaker BThat is one of the best advices that I've gotten.
Speaker BAnd if you're looking at Hormosi, the only thing he does is to give away core strategies that is working, seen from the right perspective, done in the right way, but give away your best stuff.
Speaker BSo if you have a killer thing in your program, then use it for marketing.
Speaker BThat is what you're going to talk about.
Speaker BThat is what you're going to dissect because people are going to judge you for what you give away for free, not the stuff that you have in your program.
Speaker BBecause if you don't give away the best stuff, they are not going to judge you long enough for them to ever consider joining your program.
Speaker BSo they're never going to see it.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BBut if you give your best stuff, you might actually have an opportunity to get a new client so that they can do the journey and get that outcome that you help them get.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DSo gonna add a link below with a training on how to get your own, like, unique brand heard, get it out there, your own brand voice, your own uncoupable edge to your content, becoming more spicy, becoming more of who you are.
Speaker DTurn that up so your marketing becomes better and your brand stands out much more clear.
Speaker DWe'll put the link down below.
Speaker DGo and watch that training and thank you for spending your time with us.
Speaker BThank you for spending your time with yourself.
Speaker DAnd then don't forget and listening to us.
Speaker BDon't forget to like and subscribe and we'll see you in a new episode.
Speaker BTake care, guys.