1 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:03,930 Martin: Ego net cost. 2 00:00:06,230 --> 00:00:10,678 Welcome to Ego Net cost live streaming. 3 00:00:10,774 --> 00:00:23,622 I am Martin Lindeskop and this session will be then an editing edited version, episode 132 of 4 00:00:23,686 --> 00:00:25,062 Ego Net cost. 5 00:00:25,206 --> 00:00:27,182 And it's middle. 6 00:00:27,196 --> 00:00:32,258 I have some talking points here mid year, week 26. 7 00:00:32,434 --> 00:00:37,650 And in a way, I'm happy to start with ego Net cost. 8 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:44,122 Again, last episode or previous episode was end of last year. 9 00:00:44,226 --> 00:00:51,074 I been having plenty of podcasts running and ego Net cost is my first podcast. 10 00:00:51,242 --> 00:00:59,510 So now it's still first day in american time, it's Friday in swedish time, european time, 11 00:00:59,890 --> 00:01:02,242 and then it's tourstog. 12 00:01:02,346 --> 00:01:04,530 And that's first day. 13 00:01:04,650 --> 00:01:09,830 Thorstag is with Thor God, norse God. 14 00:01:10,170 --> 00:01:12,298 So that's in Swedish Thorsdog. 15 00:01:12,434 --> 00:01:17,470 And I will use the Thor's hammer and ventilate a bit. 16 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:25,086 And I had to talk with my co host, Blair of the secular foxhole about the debate, the 17 00:01:25,118 --> 00:01:29,170 debate night hash, debatenight on Twitter and other places. 18 00:01:29,790 --> 00:01:32,630 And I was thinking of, should I watch this or not? 19 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:35,974 And in a way, I'm happy that I did that. 20 00:01:36,102 --> 00:01:41,758 And also, why did I watch it for 90 minutes? 21 00:01:41,934 --> 00:01:49,270 Plus, I had recently invitation by Robert Beagley that had been a guest and returning 22 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:58,178 guest on the secular foxhole, this professional speaker and also helping other 23 00:01:58,234 --> 00:01:59,070 speakers. 24 00:02:00,330 --> 00:02:04,842 So he has a course on the forum for speakers 25 00:02:04,906 --> 00:02:06,082 elite forum. 26 00:02:06,146 --> 00:02:09,150 And now I'll see here, it's live on air on 27 00:02:09,810 --> 00:02:11,830 YouTube and LinkedIn. 28 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:14,754 And something is up with Facebook. 29 00:02:14,842 --> 00:02:20,138 I don't know what, but I have to check with Boomcaster and Facebook settings. 30 00:02:20,314 --> 00:02:30,586 So I was reflecting on that, on this debate between Trump and Biden and all the settings 31 00:02:30,658 --> 00:02:36,110 and all the rules and specifications for this debate. 32 00:02:36,970 --> 00:02:45,050 Of course, it's a challenge to then talk and do talking points, questions from this panel 33 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:54,382 for 90 minutes without any like, show notes that I'm showing now on live, like a note card 34 00:02:54,446 --> 00:03:01,330 or some prompt for your memory and whatnot. 35 00:03:01,870 --> 00:03:04,278 And then, of course, it's this back and forth 36 00:03:04,334 --> 00:03:09,090 between two candidates, you could say, and opponents. 37 00:03:10,310 --> 00:03:13,232 So, yeah, that's a challenge. 38 00:03:13,366 --> 00:03:17,284 And why comment on this is, it's due to this 39 00:03:17,332 --> 00:03:21,040 thing called freedom of expression, freedom of speech. 40 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:22,572 Free speech. 41 00:03:22,756 --> 00:03:24,956 And to have a real debate. 42 00:03:25,108 --> 00:03:33,036 This was a debate between two candidates, former president and the now president in 43 00:03:33,068 --> 00:03:33,668 power. 44 00:03:33,844 --> 00:03:36,876 And then it's the election year coming up 45 00:03:36,908 --> 00:03:45,346 here, and who will run the country and become a commander in chief for next four years. 46 00:03:45,498 --> 00:03:51,578 And yeah, it's a sad state, you could say, and I will do an ending and reflect on history a 47 00:03:51,594 --> 00:03:54,394 bit regarding debates. 48 00:03:54,482 --> 00:03:57,274 When it started with television, in a way, it 49 00:03:57,322 --> 00:04:02,738 got popular in the sixties so this is something to ponder and think about. 50 00:04:02,914 --> 00:04:09,652 And then in America, and I will talk more about this, how it is in Sweden and European 51 00:04:09,716 --> 00:04:10,268 Union. 52 00:04:10,364 --> 00:04:14,772 And we had recent elections very also that it 53 00:04:14,796 --> 00:04:23,180 was with two candidates from Democratic Party and the Republican Party, but no third parties 54 00:04:23,300 --> 00:04:26,160 or independent candidates. 55 00:04:26,980 --> 00:04:30,796 And CNN, it's a private company and they are 56 00:04:30,828 --> 00:04:36,470 of course allowed and up to them to set the rules for the debate. 57 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:42,786 And I think it's, is it ABC News that will have the second one, if it will be one, but 58 00:04:42,818 --> 00:04:48,842 then you have to show in order to be another opponent or candidate or speaker, you have to 59 00:04:48,866 --> 00:04:58,310 have certain polls and surveys, certain amount, I think it was 1015 percent or whatnot 60 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:59,816 to reach that. 61 00:04:59,968 --> 00:05:04,416 And then the whole system, in order to have in 62 00:05:04,448 --> 00:05:10,376 all the districts and all the places to have a candidate being a candidate on the ballot that 63 00:05:10,408 --> 00:05:10,992 is challenged. 64 00:05:11,016 --> 00:05:12,440 So that's something to think about. 65 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,140 The whole system in America as we see it now. 66 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,088 And that will be interesting to hear from 67 00:05:19,144 --> 00:05:23,080 experts and scholars and what will be the future here. 68 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:31,280 So now I'm thinking of talking about for around 15 minutes and already talked for like, 69 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,880 yeah, five, six minutes here. 70 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,672 So, so what Robert F. Kennedy junior did, 71 00:05:38,816 --> 00:05:44,936 because he is like an independent candidate, I think he's registered as a Democrat and he's a 72 00:05:45,008 --> 00:05:52,376 bit of a character, you could say, with his heritage and relatives and ancestors and the 73 00:05:52,408 --> 00:05:55,778 political line there and in the debate. 74 00:05:55,834 --> 00:05:58,146 I don't know if swedish mainstream media will 75 00:05:58,178 --> 00:06:03,230 talk at all about him as a candidate and what he wanted to do. 76 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:07,230 And you could listen to all, he's all over the place. 77 00:06:07,930 --> 00:06:12,978 But he set up a site called the realdebate.com. 78 00:06:13,154 --> 00:06:20,412 and there he, John Stossel, that is a libertarian leaning individual. 79 00:06:20,476 --> 00:06:22,080 And he has his own show. 80 00:06:22,820 --> 00:06:26,996 He was on Fox News, I think now he's running 81 00:06:27,028 --> 00:06:29,740 his own show on the Internet. 82 00:06:29,860 --> 00:06:32,516 He was in the panel, you could say then, and 83 00:06:32,548 --> 00:06:41,932 then Robert F. Kennedy junior commented on Trump and Biden's answers to the questions. 84 00:06:42,036 --> 00:06:46,140 And so it took longer time with this one, you could say. 85 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:54,740 And now I was watching the debate on something called, that's by James Critland. 86 00:06:54,860 --> 00:07:04,700 He has a service called LiveNow News where you could have click on different squares or 87 00:07:04,860 --> 00:07:12,330 symbols or small windows, you could say, and then a bigger window will open on the screen 88 00:07:12,410 --> 00:07:14,138 and you could watch news. 89 00:07:14,274 --> 00:07:18,682 So I watched the CNN live there and then on 90 00:07:18,706 --> 00:07:19,586 the phone. 91 00:07:19,778 --> 00:07:23,866 I drive then to watch go to the 92 00:07:23,898 --> 00:07:25,322 realdebate.com. 93 00:07:25,426 --> 00:07:27,034 and what's happened there? 94 00:07:27,202 --> 00:07:34,826 They got some error message and maybe it was traffic there and lots of visitors and 95 00:07:34,858 --> 00:07:42,446 viewers, and it was also should be linked to Twitter or x there. 96 00:07:42,478 --> 00:07:44,262 I also got an error message. 97 00:07:44,326 --> 00:07:49,494 And then over time, they went to rumble the 98 00:07:49,542 --> 00:07:57,726 video service so you could follow it where you had the chat thing and comments and thumbs up 99 00:07:57,758 --> 00:08:00,470 and down so you could follow that. 100 00:08:00,630 --> 00:08:03,472 So I watched that at the end also. 101 00:08:03,646 --> 00:08:10,388 And at the end, it's like these two minutes, they had this closing statement or remarks. 102 00:08:10,444 --> 00:08:13,908 And then, of course, Robert F. Kennedy did that. 103 00:08:14,044 --> 00:08:18,452 And you all have to practice on your speaking skills. 104 00:08:18,596 --> 00:08:20,244 And I'm doing that also myself. 105 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:22,884 So that's why I'm so thankful for Robert 106 00:08:23,012 --> 00:08:30,804 Beagley inviting me to this forum and course, for speakers over a year, for a year time. 107 00:08:30,972 --> 00:08:39,940 So with Biden, but with Seclus Vauxhall, my co host Blair, he had a joke that is not so fun 108 00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:46,180 in a way, when you think about it, but it's going in the lines like one can't complete a 109 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:49,880 sentence and one is sentenced to jail. 110 00:08:50,780 --> 00:08:55,356 So you hear Biden, his images and expressions, 111 00:08:55,428 --> 00:08:59,828 facial expressions, having a hard time stumbling with the words. 112 00:08:59,924 --> 00:09:08,652 And then you have Trump's way of doing things with his mimics and, yeah, doing his gestures 113 00:09:08,716 --> 00:09:09,640 and so on. 114 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:12,972 And then you listen to Robert F. Kennedy. 115 00:09:13,116 --> 00:09:22,380 I think he has some kind of issue or how do you say, condition with his speech. 116 00:09:22,420 --> 00:09:26,540 I don't know what it is, if it's something with his throat or something. 117 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:27,814 It sounds very. 118 00:09:27,932 --> 00:09:30,170 Yeah, a special thing to listen to. 119 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:32,802 So it was hard overall. 120 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:36,098 The thing that was the panel was because often 121 00:09:36,154 --> 00:09:39,474 in tv studios, they could be very harsh. 122 00:09:39,522 --> 00:09:42,250 And also that they ask you questions and don't 123 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:43,066 listen to the answer. 124 00:09:43,098 --> 00:09:44,810 But there, I think it was pretty 125 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:45,950 straightforward. 126 00:09:46,610 --> 00:09:48,922 And, of course, you could wonder about how 127 00:09:48,946 --> 00:09:51,490 they pick these different questions. 128 00:09:51,610 --> 00:09:54,990 And especially at the end, it was this, that 129 00:09:55,610 --> 00:10:05,298 Trump was not answering that about if he will accept the election and the results, and also 130 00:10:05,354 --> 00:10:13,682 about this violence with the January 16 that happened, with the storming of the capital and 131 00:10:13,706 --> 00:10:14,290 so on. 132 00:10:14,410 --> 00:10:18,154 I don't know if Joe Biden got that question. 133 00:10:18,282 --> 00:10:20,170 They should get the same questions. 134 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:22,206 But I didn't watch that. 135 00:10:22,338 --> 00:10:24,862 So that's something to think about. 136 00:10:25,006 --> 00:10:28,942 And so I will continue doing this on 137 00:10:29,006 --> 00:10:38,422 Thursdays, live streaming around 15 minutes, talking about stuff and ventilating a bit in a 138 00:10:38,486 --> 00:10:39,830 civil manner. 139 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:42,262 But that's the good thing, again, that we have 140 00:10:42,286 --> 00:10:47,850 freedom of expression and we could have a debate, discussion and discourse. 141 00:10:48,510 --> 00:10:55,454 So at the end here, I will include in the show notes when I edit the episode and post links 142 00:10:55,582 --> 00:11:03,422 to an article in Wired magazine online about TikTok live and independent candidates and 143 00:11:03,446 --> 00:11:09,810 third party candidates and how Robert Kennedy have attracted viewers there. 144 00:11:10,110 --> 00:11:14,940 And also reviews and summaries about the debate. 145 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,100 That I will include. 146 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,880 And following along here as an end note here 147 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:29,936 is could you think about how the debate was tv debate, television debate between Nixon versus 148 00:11:30,008 --> 00:11:32,060 Kennedy in 1960s. 149 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,120 They're so called people who listen to the 150 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,794 radio and I will check with the survey. 151 00:11:42,842 --> 00:11:47,586 But when they said Nixon so called one debate. 152 00:11:47,738 --> 00:11:55,130 But when we saw him in the tv studio, we saw that he was having these facial problems and 153 00:11:55,170 --> 00:12:01,714 was on the spotlight in his face and all kind of things that they could you trust this 154 00:12:01,842 --> 00:12:07,354 person? So when Kennedy was polished and his things, 155 00:12:07,402 --> 00:12:14,130 so that was something that had lots of analysis and discussions about that and maybe 156 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:19,418 that have shaped the whole debate thing in modern times. 157 00:12:19,554 --> 00:12:25,410 And there something that maybe you could think about with Trump and Biden, that you looked at 158 00:12:25,450 --> 00:12:29,186 Biden and maybe thought that he looked like Nixon. 159 00:12:29,338 --> 00:12:38,526 And when you looked like Trump, he's not same polished as Kennedy, but he was very secure in 160 00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:45,862 himself, even if he had his tics and jargon, his gestures. 161 00:12:46,046 --> 00:12:48,410 So that's something to think about. 162 00:12:48,710 --> 00:12:51,918 And then the whole discussion about this. 163 00:12:51,974 --> 00:13:01,288 What will happen now before the election and what will Biden be the running person or will 164 00:13:01,424 --> 00:13:10,808 Camilla Harris step in or somebody else? And also, Svend, is it time for third party 165 00:13:10,904 --> 00:13:15,488 candidates to be in the debates also? In either way. 166 00:13:15,544 --> 00:13:22,816 But I liked what they did with this realdebate.com and how you could use new media 167 00:13:22,928 --> 00:13:27,632 in order to have your voice and have your saying so. 168 00:13:27,696 --> 00:13:33,720 With that I say thanks for watching and talk to you soon again. 169 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,900 Bye for now. 170 00:13:51,610 --> 00:14:27,270 Martin: Radhe ego net goddess.