Scott:

I'm watching, and I'm listening.

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This is Talk With History.

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That's what we do.

Jenn:

well, you better listen to me.

Jenn:

I don't think I listened to you, which is fine.

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And that, folks, is how the show rolls.

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Welcome

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to Talk With History.

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I'm your host, Scott here with my wife and historian,

Jenn:

Hello.

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On this podcast, we give you insights to our history inspired

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world travels, YouTube channel journey, and examine history

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through deeper conversations with the curious, the explorers, and

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the history lovers out there.

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Now today, Jen, before we get into our main topic, I wanna thank our

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Spotify listeners for 5 star reviews.

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We actually just got a couple more last time I

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checked, and so we're up to 9.

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So if you're listening on Spotify, if you could be our tenth 5 star

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review, that would be fantastic.

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And we actually got another 5 star review over on Apple Podcast

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from our friend, GE Historian.

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So this 1 is her review starts with the subject line.

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It's for the Masters of the Air episode that we did not too long ago.

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The history of the Masters of the Air with an aviator turned historian, 5 stars.

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Love this episode, Jen and Scott.

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It was so fascinating to hear the history of aviation during World War 2 and how

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it helped shape the future of aviation.

Scott:

I'm a huge fan of Masters of the Air in your podcast.

Scott:

My 2 favorite characters from the show is Buck and Bucky.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

I think

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I I would agree with that.

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I also love Curtis too.

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Like you, Jen, I sympathize too with the aviators and how they have to make split

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second decisions up in the air that may or may not go against the plan that their

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superiors had created down the ground.

Scott:

Keep up the good work.

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Well, thank you so much.

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We actually inter we actually interact with GE Historian a fair amount on

Jenn:

Instagram.

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So if you wanna follow us on Instagram, we have a pretty big following

Jenn:

over there, and we post pretty much

Scott:

Yeah.

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We're pretty active over on Instagram.

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A lot quicker hit kinda history, little little hits over there.

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We do have some membership options over there, and we appreciate this kind of

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the support wherever we can get Today, we're taking a whirlwind tour of Memphis,

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Tennessee, a city dripping with soul, swagger, and stories that shaped America.

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From the king's throne to the fight for equality, Memphis packs a

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historical punch, so put on your blue suede shoes and grab some dry rub

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ribs because we're hitting the road on a Mississippi Delta adventure.

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We're going to explore the birthplace of rock and roll, uncover a hotel with

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a bit of adorable whimsy, and leave you humming a blues tune and hungry for more.

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So stay tuned, history enthusiasts.

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The Memphis magic is about to begin.

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Now,

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Jen Yes.

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We actually haven't recorded in a couple weeks.

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We recorded ahead, so we've been staying on our regular schedule, but

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we didn't record because you and I are getting ready to move back to the

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greater Memphis area, some navy moves.

Scott:

And so with that, we wanted to kinda share some tips and tricks, travels, some top

Scott:

5 things that you picked out that people can go see in Memphis that have both a

Scott:

historical significance and are like the must sees in the greater Memphis area.

Jenn:

Yes.

Jenn:

So we've lived there before.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

We lived there for 3 years.

Jenn:

And moving from California to Memphis, we really didn't know anything about Memphis.

Jenn:

So it is really the birth of Walk With History.

Jenn:

Your very first video is from Memphis, Tennessee.

Jenn:

It actually has to do around a Confederate statue that neither

Jenn:

of us even knew who this guy was.

Jenn:

And it was such a well known character in Memphis in the south that we

Jenn:

were just shocked that there's so much knowledge and history of the

Jenn:

south that is just not widespread.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

We we've we've told this story a couple times, and if you've never heard it

Scott:

before the the channel actually started in about 20 21, not long after the

Scott:

pandemic, and and you had been watching some YouTube you had actually gone out.

Scott:

We were living in Memphis where I moved there for the Navy, and you had gone

Scott:

out just with your, iPhone, you know, 10 or something like that at the time,

Scott:

and just started filming vertical video saying, hey, I wanna show this to my

Scott:

family and show them who this person

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

I made a Facebook group.

Scott:

a Facebook group.

Jenn:

was called walk with history.

Jenn:

And I added a bunch of friends and family and asked them if they are interested.

Jenn:

I'm gonna just film around the South and Memphis and things that I'm learning and

Jenn:

if they're interested in learning too.

Jenn:

And you have to also understand it's just coinciding with me

Jenn:

getting my master's degree there.

Jenn:

So, again, former military used my GI bill and went back to school

Jenn:

at the University of Memphis and got a master's degree of history.

Jenn:

So for me, it was so poignant to get that degree there because my undergrad

Jenn:

is from Penn State, a a Yankee school.

Jenn:

And to get your graduate degree in a southern school, I it really is

Jenn:

a crossroads of American history.

Jenn:

And I did not realize how important Memphis is to American history until

Jenn:

I started to really immerse myself into that culture and history.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And so that was really the Genesis of Walk With History.

Scott:

It started there, and then we kinda moved and life moved on.

Scott:

And then all of a sudden, you know, a few years later, here

Scott:

we are with Walk With History.

Scott:

So let's start with the where Memphis fits in the greater

Scott:

American history picture, and then we'll go into some some top

Jenn:

Top 5.

Scott:

Top 5.

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Top 5 places to visit.

Scott:

If you were going to Memphis for the first time, this is our list,

Scott:

and we're gonna go in reverse

Scott:

order.

Scott:

But we'll start with some history, and then we're gonna go go in the top 5.

Scott:

So

Scott:

stick around.

Jenn:

So usually when I listen to podcasts, I'm driving somewhere

Jenn:

and I'm like, oh, does anyone have a podcast about this so I can

Jenn:

listen to it before I get there?

Jenn:

So if you're on your way to Memphis, first time, these are your top 5 places to visit

Jenn:

if you've never been to Memphis before.

Jenn:

But some background on Memphis is it's at the southern west tip of

Jenn:

Tennessee on the Mississippi River.

Jenn:

It is an old Chickasaw area.

Jenn:

So Chickasaw was the American Indians that live there, the Chickasaw people.

Jenn:

And then it was bought by Andrew Jackson pretty early in in land grants.

Jenn:

Andrew Jackson's from Tennessee.

Jenn:

And if you remember, he his home is outside of Nashville.

Jenn:

And so he's a early landowner of the Tennessee area.

Jenn:

So he owns Memphis.

Jenn:

And him and 2 other people established the city.

Jenn:

And that's about 18 19.

Jenn:

And because it's on the Mississippi, which is the second largest river

Jenn:

in America, it looks like the Nile.

Jenn:

And so for Andrew Jackson, he wanted to name it after a city in Egypt.

Jenn:

And Memphis is the name of a city on the Nile in Egypt.

Jenn:

So Memphis, Tennessee is like Memphis, Egypt because of its place along the Nile.

Jenn:

Because of that, there's a lot of Egyptian influence in Memphis.

Jenn:

And even when I went to the University of Memphis, we have a big statue

Jenn:

of Ramses out front of the school because we have an Egyptology program.

Scott:

And I think it's it's 1 of the largest in the country.

Jenn:

Yes.

Jenn:

So if you like Indiana Jones, everybody most people who I

Jenn:

went to grad school with are are Egyptologists, reading hieroglyphics.

Jenn:

And we have at the University of Memphis Museum, we have mummies.

Jenn:

And a lot of that schooling is there.

Jenn:

So it is 1 of those larger programs.

Jenn:

Most people will go to Egypt and do a dig.

Jenn:

And I also got a certificate in museum studies.

Jenn:

So I was also working with them in that realm as well as well.

Jenn:

So you may not realize how big Egyptology is in Memphis because

Jenn:

it's like the middle of the south.

Jenn:

That makes no sense.

Jenn:

But it is.

Jenn:

It's it's

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It was it was neat to learn about that as you were going through

Scott:

grad school and and it kinda

Scott:

makes sense for some of our 1 of the items on our list here, and actually

Scott:

probably the first 1 that we're gonna talk about about kinda why it

Scott:

was designed the way that it was.

Jenn:

So the fifth place on our list, because we're gonna jump into

Jenn:

this, I don't want people sitting on I hate sitting on a podcast going,

Jenn:

when are they gonna get to it?

Jenn:

Is the pyramid.

Jenn:

There's a huge pyramid in Memphis right on the Mississippi and because of Egypt.

Jenn:

So think of if you've ever been to Vegas and you've seen the

Jenn:

Luxor, it's almost the same thing.

Jenn:

But it was built as arena in 19 91 to hold 20000 people.

Jenn:

And it had some famous concerts there.

Jenn:

The Grateful Dead played there.

Scott:

Oh, I didn't realize

Jenn:

It's also known for a Mike Tyson fight.

Jenn:

In 2002, Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson actually fought

Scott:

Oh, I didn't know that.

Jenn:

was like an arena.

Jenn:

But after that, it it closed, and it was revamped as a Bass Pro Shop.

Jenn:

And that's what it is today.

Scott:

let me tell you folks, it is such a fun Bass Pro Shop.

Scott:

I I so enjoy going there.

Scott:

And if I know there's people that have been stationed with me there in in

Scott:

Memphis, Millington area before, and I'm I'm sure they probably feel the same way.

Scott:

It's just kinda 1 of those things that hey.

Scott:

I'm gonna go after church.

Scott:

I'm gonna go there on a Sunday afternoon and just you could spend a couple

Scott:

hours there literally just walking out looking at whatever you wanna look at.

Scott:

And it has all sorts of stuff inside, like lakes and fish

Scott:

and gators and all this crazy

Jenn:

It it's so it's free.

Jenn:

So if you wanted just something fun to do with your family,

Jenn:

you could park there, walk in.

Jenn:

You can look at all the cool aquariums.

Jenn:

They have a bowling alley.

Jenn:

They have a nice restaurant upstairs, like fine dining.

Jenn:

They have an a a good restaurant downstairs.

Jenn:

It's more family friendly.

Jenn:

And you can even stay there.

Jenn:

They have rooms and

Scott:

That's right.

Scott:

There's a hotel.

Scott:

There's a hotel aspect to it, but it has all the classic Bass Pro Shop stuff.

Scott:

All the classic Bass Pro.

Scott:

It's it's super fun.

Scott:

Well, I highly recommend if you're if you want something a little

Scott:

that every the whole family would enjoy, I I think this is a a an easy

Jenn:

And you would see it.

Jenn:

If you're driving through Memphis, and you're taking the Memphis bridge across

Jenn:

the Mississippi, you'll see the pyramid.

Jenn:

It is right there on the on the coast of the Mississippi

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

that Memphis Bridge it's going across you know, the Mississippi

Scott:

there, it looks like a big m.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's right there.

Jenn:

It's

Jenn:

right there.

Jenn:

So let's move on to number 4.

Jenn:

And this is important historically.

Jenn:

We'll talk about that as well.

Jenn:

It also is in a movie, but it's the Peabody Hotel.

Jenn:

So the Peabody Hotel is 1 of these old Southern hotels.

Jenn:

The original was built in 18 69, right after the

Jenn:

Civil War.

Jenn:

Now, it wasn't at the present location.

Jenn:

It is today.

Jenn:

The present location of the Peabody today was built in 19 25.

Jenn:

But you would remember it from The Firm, the Tom Cruise movie where he

Jenn:

gets offered the job and they're on top of the Peabody having a party.

Jenn:

And you can see the big words, the Peabody.

Jenn:

It also has a great view of the Mississippi from it.

Jenn:

And another thing that people love to see at the

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

And that was cool.

Scott:

I it wasn't something I had seen the firm, you know, before we moved

Scott:

there, but I wasn't aware of the

Jenn:

Mhmm.

Jenn:

So the firm is that Tom Cruise movie.

Jenn:

It was written by Grisham, where he plays a lawyer in Memphis.

Jenn:

Just so people like what?

Jenn:

Yes.

Jenn:

If you remember that 1 of the John Grisham novel, john

Jenn:

Grisham is from the South.

Jenn:

But the ducks in night in 19 33, some duck hunter came into the hotel and

Jenn:

they have a big fountain in the middle.

Jenn:

And he thought it was funny to put his duck decoys in the fountain.

Jenn:

And it just made people laugh.

Jenn:

And so they thought it would be like a novelty to have real ducks.

Jenn:

And so they do now.

Jenn:

So every day they parade the ducks in in the morning and it's a big deal.

Jenn:

You can sit there.

Jenn:

They're they're housed at the top of the hotel.

Jenn:

They come in in the morning.

Jenn:

They walk across the red carpet and they sit in the fountain all day.

Jenn:

And then at the afternoon or the 3 or 4, they parade the ducks out to go to bed.

Scott:

and and don't I guess, certain people on host hotel staff, they're

Scott:

like they're like I want I don't know the word for it, but they're,

Scott:

like, integrated with the ducks.

Scott:

The ducks know these

Scott:

particular people, and they wranglers.

Scott:

They they will follow them.

Scott:

through the through the hotel.

Scott:

And so I think I've seen it once, but only kinda on the periphery because I

Scott:

was trying to kinda help the kids see

Scott:

it.

Scott:

So I'm actually looking forward to going back and actually seeing it truly

Scott:

seeing it for myself, you know, sometime

Jenn:

Again, it's free.

Jenn:

It's something fun to do with your family.

Jenn:

They have a great lobby area where you can go have a drink or hot cocoa,

Jenn:

and you can get food or just dessert.

Jenn:

We go there after date night sometimes, and we just sit in the lobby.

Jenn:

It's a beautiful lobby.

Jenn:

They have a lot of events there.

Jenn:

So Saint Jude is in Memphis.

Jenn:

And a lot of Saint Jude's events will be at the Peabody.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And now the Peabody all that's there, and it's right in the downtown area

Scott:

next to our number 3 place on the

Jenn:

I wanna talk a little bit more about the history of Memphis.

Jenn:

So Memphis, again, along the Mississippi River and during

Jenn:

the early times of America and enslavement, this was a cotton area.

Jenn:

And Memphis was the cotton market of America.

Jenn:

That's where they they did the cotton exchange because you could

Jenn:

bring cotton up the Mississippi, exchange it, and then send it further

Jenn:

up north to basically sell it and

Scott:

Well and and also in that neck of the woods, in that part of

Scott:

the south of the Mississippi Delta area you can grow cotton for so

Scott:

long.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

You know, the the the growing season is is pretty

Scott:

long.

Jenn:

still see cotton growing there today, which is something

Jenn:

we never saw until we moved there.

Jenn:

But during enslavement, this is where you get a lot of African Americans and working

Jenn:

through getting free or not being free.

Jenn:

And so you have the blues.

Jenn:

The birthplace of the blues is Beale Street.

Jenn:

they really think the birthplace of jazz will be Bourbon Street in New Orleans,

Jenn:

but this is the birthplace of the blues.

Jenn:

And Beale Street is our number 3 place to visit because it is that birthplace

Jenn:

of that particular kind of music, which is jazz, but more on a sadder

Jenn:

storytelling, just like your your your travels and trials through life.

Jenn:

And you get famous people like BB King and Muddy Waters who really

Jenn:

left their mark on Beale Street.

Jenn:

But it was WC Handy who was a trumpet player, who African American, who

Jenn:

wrote the song and became known as the Memphis City Blues or the Beale Street

Scott:

Oh, cool.

Jenn:

how Beale Street got its name.

Jenn:

So you would know it from the new Elvis movie, Lansky Brothers, where Elvis

Jenn:

got his clothes is on Beale Street.

Jenn:

Elvis visits Beale Street.

Jenn:

It's just a major musical influence

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

there.

Scott:

was actually a pretty long scene in that movie where he's at some bar, some

Scott:

music spot downtown, and he's hanging out right with other musicians down

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

He's hanging out with just other influential musicians because the African

Jenn:

American sound was so influential to his

Scott:

And if you It's it's an easy Google search.

Scott:

You can Google Beale Street, and there's a there's a lot of fantastic places to eat,

Scott:

great bars you can go listen to music too.

Scott:

They actually have what do they call them?

Scott:

The Memphis Street flyers

Scott:

where Yes.

Scott:

They will they will kinda do gymnastics.

Scott:

They will tumble, kinda doing

Scott:

flips.

Jenn:

you remember in The Firm, when Tom Cruise is kinda challenged to do flips

Jenn:

down the street, they have people who do

Scott:

And they They still do it to this

Jenn:

still do it to this day.

Jenn:

Great places to eat like you said.

Jenn:

We love Blue City Cafe which is right on the corner.

Jenn:

It's also from The Firm where Tom Cruise meets the FBI agents for the first time.

Jenn:

But they have the best gumbo cheese fries I've ever had

Scott:

They're they're fantastic.

Scott:

1 of the other places that I wrote down that's just off of

Scott:

Beale Street is Rendezvous.

Jenn:

So rendezvous so so when we say gumbo cheese fries, that's not barbecue.

Jenn:

When we're getting into barbecue and you get into rendezvous, rendezvous

Jenn:

is by the Peabody, which is just 2 blocks away from Beale Street.

Jenn:

And Rendezvous is down a back alley from the Peabody.

Scott:

And and if folks, if you're listening and you're like, oh my gosh.

Scott:

I gotta take all these notes.

Scott:

Don't worry.

Scott:

I have links to all of these places.

Scott:

I will put them in the show notes.

Scott:

So just save this episode or text it to your husband or your wife

Scott:

or whatever and be like, hey.

Scott:

On our trip, we have to relisten to this, and we gotta look in the

Scott:

show notes because I have links.

Scott:

I'm gonna have links to all these places in the show

Jenn:

Yes.

Jenn:

And rendezvous Justin Timberlake is from Memphis, and

Jenn:

rendezvous is his favorite ribs.

Jenn:

So if you want some good barbecue ribs, rendezvous is where Justin

Scott:

Rendezvous Rendezvous really good.

Scott:

It's it's pretty cool too because 1 parking is it can be tricky around

Scott:

there, but it's like you have to go into this alley to get into Rendezvous, and

Scott:

then it's like down inside, and it's actually pretty expansive once you get

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And I still use Rendezvous spices when I make chicken for us.

Jenn:

So I buy it even for that because it's special.

Jenn:

But yeah.

Jenn:

You can't miss Beale Street.

Jenn:

FedEx Forum is there right off of Beale.

Jenn:

FedEx Forum is our big arena now where the Grizzlies will play.

Jenn:

We saw Justin Timberlake there.

Jenn:

We saw Garth Brooks there.

Jenn:

There's a great hotel right beside it.

Jenn:

If you don't wanna stay at the Peabody, there's a hotel right there by the FedEx

Jenn:

Forum, which is your right on Beal then.

Jenn:

There's other great music places on Beal.

Jenn:

You can hear the blues coming out the door and you can stop in and have a drink.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Beale Street is 1 of those things if you can't hit all 5 of these places

Scott:

in 1 day, if you do 1 thing in the morning and then you kinda do 1 thing

Scott:

later on evening dinner time, Beale Street is the is that great place.

Scott:

That 1 last thing kinda before we move on to the next 1 that I noticed the

Scott:

last time we were there, They have those musical notes like Hollywood

Scott:

Boulevard has the, you know, walk of fame, but they have these kind of

Scott:

brass notes that are in in the sidewalk with all these famous musicians that

Scott:

have been there, played there, or or from the area or something like that.

Scott:

So you can see all these names that you will recognize

Scott:

that are in the sidewalk

Jenn:

The musical influence of Memphis is tremendous and far reaching.

Jenn:

I will also mention the oldest establishment on Beal is Schwab.

Jenn:

It's it's a good store.

Jenn:

It has great ice cream in there now.

Jenn:

It's another great place to start with your family

Scott:

Great great place to get souvenirs and all the

Jenn:

Yes.

Jenn:

And that's what has the fountains.

Jenn:

If you go up on the second floor, they have a little museum and they

Jenn:

show you fountains from segregation.

Jenn:

Because again, Memphis is really a part of American crossroads and segregation and

Jenn:

enslavement is all part of the history.

Jenn:

And we'll get more into that in our next location.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So our our next location is a little bit more of a serious note, but this

Scott:

is actually pretty well known and a lot some people may know it as the

Scott:

National Civil Rights Museum, but in Memphis, it started off as something

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

Lorraine Motel.

Jenn:

So it's important.

Jenn:

If you're in Memphis again for a day, you can just drive by it and stop.

Jenn:

You don't have to go inside the actual motel, which is now the National

Jenn:

Civil Rights Museum, because because you can see the balcony where Martin

Jenn:

Luther King was assassinated on April fourth 19 68 just by standing outside.

Jenn:

And it's open and free to the public to do that.

Jenn:

So Martin Luther King was in Memphis for the sanitation strike.

Jenn:

Again, this is the sixties.

Jenn:

This is Jim Crow.

Jenn:

This is segregation.

Jenn:

Sanitation workers were the basically the garbage men in town.

Jenn:

And it was segregated where white workers drove and black workers had to

Jenn:

stay in the back of a garbage truck.

Jenn:

And a garbage truck had malfunctioned and killed 2 black men.

Jenn:

And the sanitation workers, African American sanitation workers, walked

Jenn:

off the pick walked off the job because of their working conditions.

Jenn:

They weren't paid as much.

Jenn:

They weren't allowed time off.

Jenn:

They had to sit in the back of a garbage truck, and then 2 men had died.

Jenn:

So if you ever see those I Am a Man posters, that's from the sanitation

Jenn:

strike of Memphis, Tennessee.

Jenn:

And that's what Martin Luther King was doing in town to help

Jenn:

support that strike and that

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

We actually have a great video that you did from there.

Scott:

And if if you know anything about Martin Luther King and you're familiar with his

Scott:

I have seen the mountaintop speech, that is the last speech that he gives because

Scott:

he's there for those sanitation strikes.

Scott:

You know, if you I would encourage you to listen to the whole thing because a lot

Scott:

of people are familiar with that phrase.

MLK:

But somewhere I read.

MLK:

Of the freedom of Assembly somewhere.

MLK:

I read of the Freedom of Speech.

MLK:

Yes.

MLK:

Somewhere I read of the Freedom of Press.

MLK:

Yes.

MLK:

Somewhere I read that The Greatness of America is the right to protest.

MLK:

for right.

MLK:

I'm so blessed.

MLK:

As I say, we aren't gonna let.

MLK:

Dogs or water hoses turn us around.

MLK:

We aren't gonna let any injunction turn us around.

MLK:

Well, I don't what will happen now.

MLK:

We've got some difficult days ahead, but it really doesn't matter with me now

MLK:

because I've been to the Mountain Top

MLK:

like anybody.

MLK:

I would like to live long.

MLK:

Life Longevity has its place, but I'm not concerned about that now.

MLK:

I just want do God's will and he's allowed me to go up to the mountain

MLK:

and I've looked over and I've.

MLK:

The Promised Land.

MLK:

I may not get there with you, but I want you to know the night that we as

MLK:

a people will get to the Promised Land.

MLK:

So I'm happy tonight.

MLK:

I'm not worried about anything.

MLK:

I'm not fearing any.

MLK:

My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.

Scott:

But listening to the whole thing that I remember doing this for the

Scott:

videos, it's it's a phenomenal speech.

Scott:

It's it's absolutely incredible.

Scott:

That's the last speech that he gives.

Scott:

And then the next next morning?

Jenn:

Next evening.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

He's at 6 0 1 PM.

Jenn:

He's out of room 3 0 6 on the balcony there at the Lorraine Motel.

Jenn:

Today, the Lorraine Motel is the National Civil Rights Museum.

Jenn:

So if you do visit, it's a tremendous museum.

Jenn:

It walks you through the African American experience in America from enslavement

Jenn:

to civil war, reconstruction Jim Crow, segregation, and now mass incarceration.

Jenn:

So it's a really fantastic museum.

Jenn:

And then they also own across the alleyway, the boarding house

Jenn:

where James Earl Ray was staying.

Jenn:

And that walks you through more Martin Luther King and the assassination.

Jenn:

But like you said, we have a video.

Jenn:

And we go to the church where Martin Luther King delivered that last speech.

Jenn:

We show you what that's off the beaten path.

Jenn:

But if you're interested in that, that video will show you where that is at.

Jenn:

It's about 2 miles away from the Lorraine Motel.

Jenn:

And then we take you to the Lorraine Motel and give you all of that background

Jenn:

as well if you're interested in watching that video before you visit.

Scott:

And I believe we actually have another podcast episode that's a little

Scott:

bit more in-depth about the Martin Luther King assassination, things that you

Scott:

learned while you were in grad school,

Scott:

and kinda different perspectives of people who who grew up and

Scott:

and lived in the area of that.

Scott:

So,

Scott:

If you're if you're interested in kinda going further into depth in that, I'll

Scott:

I'll put some links in links in the show

Jenn:

And like I said, I got my degree there.

Jenn:

So it was a lot of learning for me as a white woman learning a

Jenn:

lot about understanding this race problem that has been happening

Jenn:

in Memphis for years, centuries.

Jenn:

The Lorraine Motel was a segregated motel.

Jenn:

So that is why Martin Luther King was staying there.

Jenn:

There were white and black hotels at the time, and you

Jenn:

couldn't stay in the same hotels.

Jenn:

It was built in 19 25.

Jenn:

It was named after the owner's wife.

Jenn:

But famous African Americans had stayed there.

Jenn:

Nat King Cole had stayed there.

Jenn:

Aretha Franklin had stayed there.

Jenn:

It was the place you stayed if you were an African American

Jenn:

influencer in Memphis at the

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Highly recommended.

Scott:

That's why it's number 2 on our list.

Scott:

Moving on from there is someone who is a a Memphis local that

Scott:

many of you most people will know.

Scott:

And this is the, I believe, the second most visited house in the entire nation.

Scott:

So what is number 1 on our list

Jenn:

It's Graceland.

Scott:

It's Graceland.

Jenn:

How can you not?

Jenn:

It's the king.

Jenn:

Again, so when we learned we're moving to Memphis, I think

Jenn:

that is the 1 thing we knew.

Scott:

It was Graceland.

Scott:

And I because I had actually been there before.

Jenn:

Mhmm.

Scott:

15 years prior or something like that, maybe 12 years prior.

Jenn:

So the other 4 places, Bass Pro Shop, Peabody, Bill Street,

Jenn:

Lorraine, they're pretty close.

Jenn:

You could probably walk to all of them.

Jenn:

Graceland is off the beaten path.

Jenn:

You you will have to wanna go visit that if you, specifically,

Jenn:

if you wanna see it because it's at 37 64 Elvis Presley Boulevard.

Jenn:

But at the time, it was the out skirts of Memphis, the only 4

Jenn:

miles from the Mississippi border.

Scott:

of a ranch

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

He had bought a ranch and it was Elvis's home from 19 7 to 19 77.

Jenn:

So 20 years he lived there.

Jenn:

And it it's preserved in the way it would have looked in the sixties.

Scott:

It's awesome.

Jenn:

it's amazing.

Jenn:

And so what they have there too is they have the new Graceland

Jenn:

Hotel, which is right beside it.

Jenn:

And you can stay there and you can get suites with all different kind of themes.

Jenn:

And they recreate the staircase in Graceland so you can actually because you

Jenn:

can't walk up the real staircase, but you can walk up the staircase in the hotel.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

If you've been to Graceland before and you're you're listening to this, but you

Scott:

haven't been, I think the hotel and kind of the new exhibits opened in about 20 19.

Jenn:

Yes.

Scott:

So we were there during the transition because it used

Scott:

to just be really centralized.

Scott:

Everything was at in Graceland proper, and then they really expanded.

Scott:

They open up the

Scott:

hotel, and they op they they took a lot of stuff, and they spread it out

Scott:

to to exhibits across the street.

Scott:

And now they have this really expansive, you know, kind of museum

Scott:

experience for all of this Elvis stuff.

Scott:

So if you haven't if you haven't been back since 20 19, there's

Scott:

a lot to kinda go back and see.

Jenn:

So we did it before and after.

Jenn:

So we can talk about that.

Jenn:

We were there for his fortieth anniversary of his death.

Jenn:

And they had prepared for that with this huge expansion where they had

Jenn:

taken everything out of the racquetball court, which used to hold all of

Jenn:

his records and all of his costumes.

Jenn:

They took everything out of the pool house, which used to hold all

Jenn:

of the family kind of memorabilia, his tuxedo, Lisa Marie's crib,

Jenn:

and moved it all into their own separate museums across the street.

Jenn:

So across the street, there are huge museums just dedicated to

Jenn:

Elvis life in the military, just dedicated to Elvis' costumes, just

Jenn:

dedicated to Elvis' life in Tupelo.

Jenn:

So it's an immersive place.

Jenn:

You can you can spend a day there, even 2 or 3 days.

Jenn:

And your tickets, you can buy tickets for different things.

Jenn:

You can buy tickets just to see the house.

Jenn:

You can buy tickets for the house and all the museums.

Jenn:

You can buy tickets for the house museums and there's like food places there.

Jenn:

And now they even have a auditorium to do shows.

Jenn:

I saw Bret Michaels

Scott:

Oh, that's right.

Jenn:

So they have it's just a huge experience now.

Jenn:

The house is great.

Jenn:

We've seen the house many times.

Jenn:

You can only visit the first floor.

Jenn:

You cannot go up on the second floor.

Jenn:

No one's allowed up there.

Jenn:

But if you wanna just see the the graveyard, these the serenity garden where

Jenn:

Elvis is buried with his parents, his

Scott:

Right next to his pool.

Jenn:

next to his pool, his grandson, and Lisa Marie, his daughter are all there.

Jenn:

It's free every morning from 7 30 to 8 30 AM.

Jenn:

You can park right in front and you can just walk right up.

Jenn:

And they allow that every day, 1 hour.

Jenn:

If you wanna pay your respects to the king like we did, we left him

Jenn:

a flag for his military service.

Jenn:

Now you don't get to go inside the house, but you can take

Jenn:

pictures in front of the house.

Jenn:

So if you didn't wanna spend the money or you didn't have the time or you're just

Jenn:

driving through, it's very easy to stop.

Jenn:

But it's only that 1 hour in the morning that is open for people to

Scott:

It it really is walking through classic Americana.

Scott:

He is

Scott:

such kind of a part of the the American culture, and there's a

Scott:

reason that is the second most visited house in the entire country, and and

Scott:

number 1 would be the White House.

Jenn:

Number one's the White House.

Jenn:

And we know because as we live there, you would hear celebrities going to Graceland.

Scott:

yeah.

Scott:

I remember it was like Aerosmith and

Jenn:

Jagger had gone when we were there.

Jenn:

And so you would just see them in the news.

Jenn:

Be like, oh, they went to Graceland today.

Jenn:

So usually everybody who visits America, it's like going to Disney World.

Jenn:

It's I'm gonna go to Disney World.

Jenn:

I'm gonna go to Graceland.

Jenn:

And when I was out there for Elvis week, it's the week of Elvis's

Jenn:

death in August, they closed down the street in front of Graceland.

Jenn:

And I would talk to people because I wanted to know, again, as a

Jenn:

historian, what did Elvis mean to you?

Jenn:

Why are you here?

Jenn:

And most everyone was born.

Jenn:

Most everyone was not from America.

Jenn:

And it was just so amazing to be a part of that in that culture.

Jenn:

So, yes, number 1 place to see in Memphis.

Jenn:

If you're even driving through, you can just stop and check out Graceland.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So so if you if you're listening if you're kinda listening and and you're

Scott:

curious about our list, I would actually go in the in the reverse order.

Scott:

Start with number 1.

Scott:

If you have to visit 1 thing, you have to see Graceland.

Jenn:

Well, we we need to add something onto that.

Scott:

That's

Jenn:

Sun Studio.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

The Sun Studio is not near Graceland.

Jenn:

It's not near Graceland and it's not really it's kinda

Jenn:

near downtown, but also away.

Jenn:

So you have to be specifically looking for Sun Studio.

Jenn:

Studio.

Jenn:

And that's why we kinda kept it as a 1 a

Scott:

This is our this is our bonus

Jenn:

because you probably would want to see Sun Studio,

Jenn:

specifically to see Sun Studio.

Jenn:

And this is where Elvis recorded his first record.

Jenn:

This is where the claim of they recorded the first rock and roll

Jenn:

record in 19 50 Howling Wolf.

Jenn:

And the and it Ike Turner was there and this is where they

Jenn:

claimed the birth of rock and roll.

Jenn:

Elvis Presley walked in at 18 years old in 19 53.

Jenn:

He records his famous song, That's Alright, Mama, in 19 54.

Jenn:

And it also has spawned all these other careers.

Jenn:

You get Johnny Cash from there and Jerry Lee Lewis is from there.

Jenn:

But you have famous, famous people who want to record in Sun Studio.

Jenn:

And you 2 did an entire album from Sun Studio.

Jenn:

So, again, that's I saw Mick Jagger was there and Aerosmith Steve

Jenn:

Tyler was there when we were there.

Jenn:

So it's another mecca of music, but people usually specifically want to see it.

Jenn:

So it's our 1 a with

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's a I I call it a a bonus place to visit, you know, for this for this top 5.

Scott:

And they do do public

Scott:

tours.

Scott:

So look them up ahead of time because you can you can get in there, and

Scott:

you can stand next to the microphone.

Scott:

You can take your picture in the studio and and do all the

Scott:

fun stuff.

Jenn:

microphone, Elvis.

Jenn:

sang

Scott:

right.

Scott:

Yeah.

Jenn:

1 last thing.

Jenn:

Let's talk a little barbecue.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

So those are the top place top 5 places to visit.

Scott:

Now the other thing that that area of the country is known for is the

Scott:

barbecue.

Jenn:

the barbecue.

Jenn:

And we hear we heard everyone's opinions when we moved there.

Jenn:

And we ate at a couple different places.

Jenn:

So Rendezvous, definitely best ribs.

Scott:

is phenomenal.

Jenn:

off of Peabody.

Jenn:

Blues City Cafe, definitely best gumbo.

Jenn:

But if you're looking for other, there is Tops Barbecue.

Jenn:

That's a big 1.

Jenn:

Central Barbecue

Scott:

a couple of those.

Jenn:

have the best barbecue nachos.

Jenn:

And then there's 1 that's not in Memphis.

Jenn:

It's in actually in Mississippi.

Jenn:

It's a Memphis barbecue.

Jenn:

And Guy Ferreri was there.

Scott:

That was probably honestly so we we tried all these

Scott:

places, and Memphis barbecue was actually probably my favorite.

Scott:

Just straight Scott Bennie's personal favorite.

Scott:

Again, just across the border

Scott:

That's that's right.

Scott:

Because, you know, picture Memphis, it's that bottom left corner of Tennessee.

Scott:

So it's right there.

Scott:

The border is

Scott:

not not far away.

Scott:

It might be maybe 30 minutes

Scott:

from Memphis, something like that.

Scott:

But if you wanna try the different barbecue places, again, I'm gonna

Scott:

list kinda all these places.

Scott:

I'm gonna have links to them into all all the show

Jenn:

Yes.

Jenn:

I mean, most people do go for the food.

Jenn:

You want some southern soul food and and that's definitely the places we ate at.

Jenn:

Now the commissary has to be on the list too.

Jenn:

It's outside of Memphis, but they do have amazing barbecue and banana

Jenn:

pudding, which is my favorite.

Jenn:

But, yeah, Memphis will always hold a special place in our heart.

Jenn:

And there's so much more history there that we didn't cover.

Jenn:

But these are the big ones if you've never been before and you just want to

Jenn:

get a taste of Memphis driving through.

Jenn:

These are definitely the top

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

We're we're excited to be moving back there.

Scott:

And in future recorded episodes of Talk With History, we will be recording

Scott:

from the Greater Memphis Area.

Scott:

So history buffs, we've barely scratched the surface of Memphis' magic.

Scott:

From Graceland's grandeur and to the grit of Beale Street,

Scott:

this city pulsates with stories.

Scott:

We hope you've enjoyed our whirlwind tour on this podcast.

Scott:

Remember, history isn't confined to museum and monuments.

Scott:

It lives in the music, the food, the very spirit of Memphis.

Scott:

So head down there yourself and soak it in and see what stories you uncover.

Scott:

Before we sign off, we wanna say a big thank you to all our listeners

Scott:

for joining us on this journey.

Scott:

If you enjoy this episode, please leave us a review on your favorite platform

Scott:

and let us know what other historical hotspots you want us to explore.

Scott:

And if you're feeling peckish after all that southern comfort food talk, don't

Scott:

forget to check out our show notes for the links and locations we mentioned.

Scott:

I'm gonna make sure to add some of those good barbecue options in there as well.

Scott:

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Scott:

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Scott:

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Scott:

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Scott:

Thank you.