I'm watching, and I'm listening.
Scott:This is Talk With History.
Scott:That's what we do.
Jenn:well, you better listen to me.
Jenn:I don't think I listened to you, which is fine.
Scott:And that, folks, is how the show rolls.
Scott:Welcome
Scott:to Talk With History.
Scott:I'm your host, Scott here with my wife and historian,
Jenn:Hello.
Scott:On this podcast, we give you insights to our history inspired
Scott:world travels, YouTube channel journey, and examine history
Scott:through deeper conversations with the curious, the explorers, and
Scott:the history lovers out there.
Scott:Now today, Jen, before we get into our main topic, I wanna thank our
Scott:Spotify listeners for 5 star reviews.
Scott:We actually just got a couple more last time I
Scott:checked, and so we're up to 9.
Scott:So if you're listening on Spotify, if you could be our tenth 5 star
Scott:review, that would be fantastic.
Scott:And we actually got another 5 star review over on Apple Podcast
Scott:from our friend, GE Historian.
Scott:So this 1 is her review starts with the subject line.
Scott:It's for the Masters of the Air episode that we did not too long ago.
Scott:The history of the Masters of the Air with an aviator turned historian, 5 stars.
Scott:Love this episode, Jen and Scott.
Scott:It was so fascinating to hear the history of aviation during World War 2 and how
Scott:it helped shape the future of aviation.
Scott:I'm a huge fan of Masters of the Air in your podcast.
Scott:My 2 favorite characters from the show is Buck and Bucky.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:I think
Scott:I I would agree with that.
Scott:I also love Curtis too.
Scott:Like you, Jen, I sympathize too with the aviators and how they have to make split
Scott:second decisions up in the air that may or may not go against the plan that their
Scott:superiors had created down the ground.
Scott:Keep up the good work.
Scott:Well, thank you so much.
Scott:We actually inter we actually interact with GE Historian a fair amount on
Jenn:Instagram.
Jenn:So if you wanna follow us on Instagram, we have a pretty big following
Jenn:over there, and we post pretty much
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:We're pretty active over on Instagram.
Scott:A lot quicker hit kinda history, little little hits over there.
Scott:We do have some membership options over there, and we appreciate this kind of
Scott:the support wherever we can get Today, we're taking a whirlwind tour of Memphis,
Scott:Tennessee, a city dripping with soul, swagger, and stories that shaped America.
Scott:From the king's throne to the fight for equality, Memphis packs a
Scott:historical punch, so put on your blue suede shoes and grab some dry rub
Scott:ribs because we're hitting the road on a Mississippi Delta adventure.
Scott:We're going to explore the birthplace of rock and roll, uncover a hotel with
Scott:a bit of adorable whimsy, and leave you humming a blues tune and hungry for more.
Scott:So stay tuned, history enthusiasts.
Scott:The Memphis magic is about to begin.
Scott:Now,
Scott:Jen Yes.
Scott:We actually haven't recorded in a couple weeks.
Scott:We recorded ahead, so we've been staying on our regular schedule, but
Scott:we didn't record because you and I are getting ready to move back to the
Scott:greater Memphis area, some navy moves.
Scott:And so with that, we wanted to kinda share some tips and tricks, travels, some top
Scott:5 things that you picked out that people can go see in Memphis that have both a
Scott:historical significance and are like the must sees in the greater Memphis area.
Jenn:Yes.
Jenn:So we've lived there before.
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:We lived there for 3 years.
Jenn:And moving from California to Memphis, we really didn't know anything about Memphis.
Jenn:So it is really the birth of Walk With History.
Jenn:Your very first video is from Memphis, Tennessee.
Jenn:It actually has to do around a Confederate statue that neither
Jenn:of us even knew who this guy was.
Jenn:And it was such a well known character in Memphis in the south that we
Jenn:were just shocked that there's so much knowledge and history of the
Jenn:south that is just not widespread.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:We we've we've told this story a couple times, and if you've never heard it
Scott:before the the channel actually started in about 20 21, not long after the
Scott:pandemic, and and you had been watching some YouTube you had actually gone out.
Scott:We were living in Memphis where I moved there for the Navy, and you had gone
Scott:out just with your, iPhone, you know, 10 or something like that at the time,
Scott:and just started filming vertical video saying, hey, I wanna show this to my
Scott:family and show them who this person
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:I made a Facebook group.
Scott:a Facebook group.
Jenn:was called walk with history.
Jenn:And I added a bunch of friends and family and asked them if they are interested.
Jenn:I'm gonna just film around the South and Memphis and things that I'm learning and
Jenn:if they're interested in learning too.
Jenn:And you have to also understand it's just coinciding with me
Jenn:getting my master's degree there.
Jenn:So, again, former military used my GI bill and went back to school
Jenn:at the University of Memphis and got a master's degree of history.
Jenn:So for me, it was so poignant to get that degree there because my undergrad
Jenn:is from Penn State, a a Yankee school.
Jenn:And to get your graduate degree in a southern school, I it really is
Jenn:a crossroads of American history.
Jenn:And I did not realize how important Memphis is to American history until
Jenn:I started to really immerse myself into that culture and history.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:And so that was really the Genesis of Walk With History.
Scott:It started there, and then we kinda moved and life moved on.
Scott:And then all of a sudden, you know, a few years later, here
Scott:we are with Walk With History.
Scott:So let's start with the where Memphis fits in the greater
Scott:American history picture, and then we'll go into some some top
Jenn:Top 5.
Scott:Top 5.
Scott:Top 5 places to visit.
Scott:If you were going to Memphis for the first time, this is our list,
Scott:and we're gonna go in reverse
Scott:order.
Scott:But we'll start with some history, and then we're gonna go go in the top 5.
Scott:So
Scott:stick around.
Jenn:So usually when I listen to podcasts, I'm driving somewhere
Jenn:and I'm like, oh, does anyone have a podcast about this so I can
Jenn:listen to it before I get there?
Jenn:So if you're on your way to Memphis, first time, these are your top 5 places to visit
Jenn:if you've never been to Memphis before.
Jenn:But some background on Memphis is it's at the southern west tip of
Jenn:Tennessee on the Mississippi River.
Jenn:It is an old Chickasaw area.
Jenn:So Chickasaw was the American Indians that live there, the Chickasaw people.
Jenn:And then it was bought by Andrew Jackson pretty early in in land grants.
Jenn:Andrew Jackson's from Tennessee.
Jenn:And if you remember, he his home is outside of Nashville.
Jenn:And so he's a early landowner of the Tennessee area.
Jenn:So he owns Memphis.
Jenn:And him and 2 other people established the city.
Jenn:And that's about 18 19.
Jenn:And because it's on the Mississippi, which is the second largest river
Jenn:in America, it looks like the Nile.
Jenn:And so for Andrew Jackson, he wanted to name it after a city in Egypt.
Jenn:And Memphis is the name of a city on the Nile in Egypt.
Jenn:So Memphis, Tennessee is like Memphis, Egypt because of its place along the Nile.
Jenn:Because of that, there's a lot of Egyptian influence in Memphis.
Jenn:And even when I went to the University of Memphis, we have a big statue
Jenn:of Ramses out front of the school because we have an Egyptology program.
Scott:And I think it's it's 1 of the largest in the country.
Jenn:Yes.
Jenn:So if you like Indiana Jones, everybody most people who I
Jenn:went to grad school with are are Egyptologists, reading hieroglyphics.
Jenn:And we have at the University of Memphis Museum, we have mummies.
Jenn:And a lot of that schooling is there.
Jenn:So it is 1 of those larger programs.
Jenn:Most people will go to Egypt and do a dig.
Jenn:And I also got a certificate in museum studies.
Jenn:So I was also working with them in that realm as well as well.
Jenn:So you may not realize how big Egyptology is in Memphis because
Jenn:it's like the middle of the south.
Jenn:That makes no sense.
Jenn:But it is.
Jenn:It's it's
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:It was it was neat to learn about that as you were going through
Scott:grad school and and it kinda
Scott:makes sense for some of our 1 of the items on our list here, and actually
Scott:probably the first 1 that we're gonna talk about about kinda why it
Scott:was designed the way that it was.
Jenn:So the fifth place on our list, because we're gonna jump into
Jenn:this, I don't want people sitting on I hate sitting on a podcast going,
Jenn:when are they gonna get to it?
Jenn:Is the pyramid.
Jenn:There's a huge pyramid in Memphis right on the Mississippi and because of Egypt.
Jenn:So think of if you've ever been to Vegas and you've seen the
Jenn:Luxor, it's almost the same thing.
Jenn:But it was built as arena in 19 91 to hold 20000 people.
Jenn:And it had some famous concerts there.
Jenn:The Grateful Dead played there.
Scott:Oh, I didn't realize
Jenn:It's also known for a Mike Tyson fight.
Jenn:In 2002, Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson actually fought
Scott:Oh, I didn't know that.
Jenn:was like an arena.
Jenn:But after that, it it closed, and it was revamped as a Bass Pro Shop.
Jenn:And that's what it is today.
Scott:let me tell you folks, it is such a fun Bass Pro Shop.
Scott:I I so enjoy going there.
Scott:And if I know there's people that have been stationed with me there in in
Scott:Memphis, Millington area before, and I'm I'm sure they probably feel the same way.
Scott:It's just kinda 1 of those things that hey.
Scott:I'm gonna go after church.
Scott:I'm gonna go there on a Sunday afternoon and just you could spend a couple
Scott:hours there literally just walking out looking at whatever you wanna look at.
Scott:And it has all sorts of stuff inside, like lakes and fish
Scott:and gators and all this crazy
Jenn:It it's so it's free.
Jenn:So if you wanted just something fun to do with your family,
Jenn:you could park there, walk in.
Jenn:You can look at all the cool aquariums.
Jenn:They have a bowling alley.
Jenn:They have a nice restaurant upstairs, like fine dining.
Jenn:They have an a a good restaurant downstairs.
Jenn:It's more family friendly.
Jenn:And you can even stay there.
Jenn:They have rooms and
Scott:That's right.
Scott:There's a hotel.
Scott:There's a hotel aspect to it, but it has all the classic Bass Pro Shop stuff.
Scott:All the classic Bass Pro.
Scott:It's it's super fun.
Scott:Well, I highly recommend if you're if you want something a little
Scott:that every the whole family would enjoy, I I think this is a a an easy
Jenn:And you would see it.
Jenn:If you're driving through Memphis, and you're taking the Memphis bridge across
Jenn:the Mississippi, you'll see the pyramid.
Jenn:It is right there on the on the coast of the Mississippi
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:that Memphis Bridge it's going across you know, the Mississippi
Scott:there, it looks like a big m.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:It's right there.
Jenn:It's
Jenn:right there.
Jenn:So let's move on to number 4.
Jenn:And this is important historically.
Jenn:We'll talk about that as well.
Jenn:It also is in a movie, but it's the Peabody Hotel.
Jenn:So the Peabody Hotel is 1 of these old Southern hotels.
Jenn:The original was built in 18 69, right after the
Jenn:Civil War.
Jenn:Now, it wasn't at the present location.
Jenn:It is today.
Jenn:The present location of the Peabody today was built in 19 25.
Jenn:But you would remember it from The Firm, the Tom Cruise movie where he
Jenn:gets offered the job and they're on top of the Peabody having a party.
Jenn:And you can see the big words, the Peabody.
Jenn:It also has a great view of the Mississippi from it.
Jenn:And another thing that people love to see at the
Scott:Yes.
Scott:And that was cool.
Scott:I it wasn't something I had seen the firm, you know, before we moved
Scott:there, but I wasn't aware of the
Jenn:Mhmm.
Jenn:So the firm is that Tom Cruise movie.
Jenn:It was written by Grisham, where he plays a lawyer in Memphis.
Jenn:Just so people like what?
Jenn:Yes.
Jenn:If you remember that 1 of the John Grisham novel, john
Jenn:Grisham is from the South.
Jenn:But the ducks in night in 19 33, some duck hunter came into the hotel and
Jenn:they have a big fountain in the middle.
Jenn:And he thought it was funny to put his duck decoys in the fountain.
Jenn:And it just made people laugh.
Jenn:And so they thought it would be like a novelty to have real ducks.
Jenn:And so they do now.
Jenn:So every day they parade the ducks in in the morning and it's a big deal.
Jenn:You can sit there.
Jenn:They're they're housed at the top of the hotel.
Jenn:They come in in the morning.
Jenn:They walk across the red carpet and they sit in the fountain all day.
Jenn:And then at the afternoon or the 3 or 4, they parade the ducks out to go to bed.
Scott:and and don't I guess, certain people on host hotel staff, they're
Scott:like they're like I want I don't know the word for it, but they're,
Scott:like, integrated with the ducks.
Scott:The ducks know these
Scott:particular people, and they wranglers.
Scott:They they will follow them.
Scott:through the through the hotel.
Scott:And so I think I've seen it once, but only kinda on the periphery because I
Scott:was trying to kinda help the kids see
Scott:it.
Scott:So I'm actually looking forward to going back and actually seeing it truly
Scott:seeing it for myself, you know, sometime
Jenn:Again, it's free.
Jenn:It's something fun to do with your family.
Jenn:They have a great lobby area where you can go have a drink or hot cocoa,
Jenn:and you can get food or just dessert.
Jenn:We go there after date night sometimes, and we just sit in the lobby.
Jenn:It's a beautiful lobby.
Jenn:They have a lot of events there.
Jenn:So Saint Jude is in Memphis.
Jenn:And a lot of Saint Jude's events will be at the Peabody.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:And now the Peabody all that's there, and it's right in the downtown area
Scott:next to our number 3 place on the
Jenn:I wanna talk a little bit more about the history of Memphis.
Jenn:So Memphis, again, along the Mississippi River and during
Jenn:the early times of America and enslavement, this was a cotton area.
Jenn:And Memphis was the cotton market of America.
Jenn:That's where they they did the cotton exchange because you could
Jenn:bring cotton up the Mississippi, exchange it, and then send it further
Jenn:up north to basically sell it and
Scott:Well and and also in that neck of the woods, in that part of
Scott:the south of the Mississippi Delta area you can grow cotton for so
Scott:long.
Scott:Yes.
Scott:You know, the the the growing season is is pretty
Scott:long.
Jenn:still see cotton growing there today, which is something
Jenn:we never saw until we moved there.
Jenn:But during enslavement, this is where you get a lot of African Americans and working
Jenn:through getting free or not being free.
Jenn:And so you have the blues.
Jenn:The birthplace of the blues is Beale Street.
Jenn:they really think the birthplace of jazz will be Bourbon Street in New Orleans,
Jenn:but this is the birthplace of the blues.
Jenn:And Beale Street is our number 3 place to visit because it is that birthplace
Jenn:of that particular kind of music, which is jazz, but more on a sadder
Jenn:storytelling, just like your your your travels and trials through life.
Jenn:And you get famous people like BB King and Muddy Waters who really
Jenn:left their mark on Beale Street.
Jenn:But it was WC Handy who was a trumpet player, who African American, who
Jenn:wrote the song and became known as the Memphis City Blues or the Beale Street
Scott:Oh, cool.
Jenn:how Beale Street got its name.
Jenn:So you would know it from the new Elvis movie, Lansky Brothers, where Elvis
Jenn:got his clothes is on Beale Street.
Jenn:Elvis visits Beale Street.
Jenn:It's just a major musical influence
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:there.
Scott:was actually a pretty long scene in that movie where he's at some bar, some
Scott:music spot downtown, and he's hanging out right with other musicians down
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:He's hanging out with just other influential musicians because the African
Jenn:American sound was so influential to his
Scott:And if you It's it's an easy Google search.
Scott:You can Google Beale Street, and there's a there's a lot of fantastic places to eat,
Scott:great bars you can go listen to music too.
Scott:They actually have what do they call them?
Scott:The Memphis Street flyers
Scott:where Yes.
Scott:They will they will kinda do gymnastics.
Scott:They will tumble, kinda doing
Scott:flips.
Jenn:you remember in The Firm, when Tom Cruise is kinda challenged to do flips
Jenn:down the street, they have people who do
Scott:And they They still do it to this
Jenn:still do it to this day.
Jenn:Great places to eat like you said.
Jenn:We love Blue City Cafe which is right on the corner.
Jenn:It's also from The Firm where Tom Cruise meets the FBI agents for the first time.
Jenn:But they have the best gumbo cheese fries I've ever had
Scott:They're they're fantastic.
Scott:1 of the other places that I wrote down that's just off of
Scott:Beale Street is Rendezvous.
Jenn:So rendezvous so so when we say gumbo cheese fries, that's not barbecue.
Jenn:When we're getting into barbecue and you get into rendezvous, rendezvous
Jenn:is by the Peabody, which is just 2 blocks away from Beale Street.
Jenn:And Rendezvous is down a back alley from the Peabody.
Scott:And and if folks, if you're listening and you're like, oh my gosh.
Scott:I gotta take all these notes.
Scott:Don't worry.
Scott:I have links to all of these places.
Scott:I will put them in the show notes.
Scott:So just save this episode or text it to your husband or your wife
Scott:or whatever and be like, hey.
Scott:On our trip, we have to relisten to this, and we gotta look in the
Scott:show notes because I have links.
Scott:I'm gonna have links to all these places in the show
Jenn:Yes.
Jenn:And rendezvous Justin Timberlake is from Memphis, and
Jenn:rendezvous is his favorite ribs.
Jenn:So if you want some good barbecue ribs, rendezvous is where Justin
Scott:Rendezvous Rendezvous really good.
Scott:It's it's pretty cool too because 1 parking is it can be tricky around
Scott:there, but it's like you have to go into this alley to get into Rendezvous, and
Scott:then it's like down inside, and it's actually pretty expansive once you get
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:And I still use Rendezvous spices when I make chicken for us.
Jenn:So I buy it even for that because it's special.
Jenn:But yeah.
Jenn:You can't miss Beale Street.
Jenn:FedEx Forum is there right off of Beale.
Jenn:FedEx Forum is our big arena now where the Grizzlies will play.
Jenn:We saw Justin Timberlake there.
Jenn:We saw Garth Brooks there.
Jenn:There's a great hotel right beside it.
Jenn:If you don't wanna stay at the Peabody, there's a hotel right there by the FedEx
Jenn:Forum, which is your right on Beal then.
Jenn:There's other great music places on Beal.
Jenn:You can hear the blues coming out the door and you can stop in and have a drink.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:Beale Street is 1 of those things if you can't hit all 5 of these places
Scott:in 1 day, if you do 1 thing in the morning and then you kinda do 1 thing
Scott:later on evening dinner time, Beale Street is the is that great place.
Scott:That 1 last thing kinda before we move on to the next 1 that I noticed the
Scott:last time we were there, They have those musical notes like Hollywood
Scott:Boulevard has the, you know, walk of fame, but they have these kind of
Scott:brass notes that are in in the sidewalk with all these famous musicians that
Scott:have been there, played there, or or from the area or something like that.
Scott:So you can see all these names that you will recognize
Scott:that are in the sidewalk
Jenn:The musical influence of Memphis is tremendous and far reaching.
Jenn:I will also mention the oldest establishment on Beal is Schwab.
Jenn:It's it's a good store.
Jenn:It has great ice cream in there now.
Jenn:It's another great place to start with your family
Scott:Great great place to get souvenirs and all the
Jenn:Yes.
Jenn:And that's what has the fountains.
Jenn:If you go up on the second floor, they have a little museum and they
Jenn:show you fountains from segregation.
Jenn:Because again, Memphis is really a part of American crossroads and segregation and
Jenn:enslavement is all part of the history.
Jenn:And we'll get more into that in our next location.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:So our our next location is a little bit more of a serious note, but this
Scott:is actually pretty well known and a lot some people may know it as the
Scott:National Civil Rights Museum, but in Memphis, it started off as something
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:Lorraine Motel.
Jenn:So it's important.
Jenn:If you're in Memphis again for a day, you can just drive by it and stop.
Jenn:You don't have to go inside the actual motel, which is now the National
Jenn:Civil Rights Museum, because because you can see the balcony where Martin
Jenn:Luther King was assassinated on April fourth 19 68 just by standing outside.
Jenn:And it's open and free to the public to do that.
Jenn:So Martin Luther King was in Memphis for the sanitation strike.
Jenn:Again, this is the sixties.
Jenn:This is Jim Crow.
Jenn:This is segregation.
Jenn:Sanitation workers were the basically the garbage men in town.
Jenn:And it was segregated where white workers drove and black workers had to
Jenn:stay in the back of a garbage truck.
Jenn:And a garbage truck had malfunctioned and killed 2 black men.
Jenn:And the sanitation workers, African American sanitation workers, walked
Jenn:off the pick walked off the job because of their working conditions.
Jenn:They weren't paid as much.
Jenn:They weren't allowed time off.
Jenn:They had to sit in the back of a garbage truck, and then 2 men had died.
Jenn:So if you ever see those I Am a Man posters, that's from the sanitation
Jenn:strike of Memphis, Tennessee.
Jenn:And that's what Martin Luther King was doing in town to help
Jenn:support that strike and that
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:We actually have a great video that you did from there.
Scott:And if if you know anything about Martin Luther King and you're familiar with his
Scott:I have seen the mountaintop speech, that is the last speech that he gives because
Scott:he's there for those sanitation strikes.
Scott:You know, if you I would encourage you to listen to the whole thing because a lot
Scott:of people are familiar with that phrase.
MLK:But somewhere I read.
MLK:Of the freedom of Assembly somewhere.
MLK:I read of the Freedom of Speech.
MLK:Yes.
MLK:Somewhere I read of the Freedom of Press.
MLK:Yes.
MLK:Somewhere I read that The Greatness of America is the right to protest.
MLK:for right.
MLK:I'm so blessed.
MLK:As I say, we aren't gonna let.
MLK:Dogs or water hoses turn us around.
MLK:We aren't gonna let any injunction turn us around.
MLK:Well, I don't what will happen now.
MLK:We've got some difficult days ahead, but it really doesn't matter with me now
MLK:because I've been to the Mountain Top
MLK:like anybody.
MLK:I would like to live long.
MLK:Life Longevity has its place, but I'm not concerned about that now.
MLK:I just want do God's will and he's allowed me to go up to the mountain
MLK:and I've looked over and I've.
MLK:The Promised Land.
MLK:I may not get there with you, but I want you to know the night that we as
MLK:a people will get to the Promised Land.
MLK:So I'm happy tonight.
MLK:I'm not worried about anything.
MLK:I'm not fearing any.
MLK:My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
Scott:But listening to the whole thing that I remember doing this for the
Scott:videos, it's it's a phenomenal speech.
Scott:It's it's absolutely incredible.
Scott:That's the last speech that he gives.
Scott:And then the next next morning?
Jenn:Next evening.
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:He's at 6 0 1 PM.
Jenn:He's out of room 3 0 6 on the balcony there at the Lorraine Motel.
Jenn:Today, the Lorraine Motel is the National Civil Rights Museum.
Jenn:So if you do visit, it's a tremendous museum.
Jenn:It walks you through the African American experience in America from enslavement
Jenn:to civil war, reconstruction Jim Crow, segregation, and now mass incarceration.
Jenn:So it's a really fantastic museum.
Jenn:And then they also own across the alleyway, the boarding house
Jenn:where James Earl Ray was staying.
Jenn:And that walks you through more Martin Luther King and the assassination.
Jenn:But like you said, we have a video.
Jenn:And we go to the church where Martin Luther King delivered that last speech.
Jenn:We show you what that's off the beaten path.
Jenn:But if you're interested in that, that video will show you where that is at.
Jenn:It's about 2 miles away from the Lorraine Motel.
Jenn:And then we take you to the Lorraine Motel and give you all of that background
Jenn:as well if you're interested in watching that video before you visit.
Scott:And I believe we actually have another podcast episode that's a little
Scott:bit more in-depth about the Martin Luther King assassination, things that you
Scott:learned while you were in grad school,
Scott:and kinda different perspectives of people who who grew up and
Scott:and lived in the area of that.
Scott:So,
Scott:If you're if you're interested in kinda going further into depth in that, I'll
Scott:I'll put some links in links in the show
Jenn:And like I said, I got my degree there.
Jenn:So it was a lot of learning for me as a white woman learning a
Jenn:lot about understanding this race problem that has been happening
Jenn:in Memphis for years, centuries.
Jenn:The Lorraine Motel was a segregated motel.
Jenn:So that is why Martin Luther King was staying there.
Jenn:There were white and black hotels at the time, and you
Jenn:couldn't stay in the same hotels.
Jenn:It was built in 19 25.
Jenn:It was named after the owner's wife.
Jenn:But famous African Americans had stayed there.
Jenn:Nat King Cole had stayed there.
Jenn:Aretha Franklin had stayed there.
Jenn:It was the place you stayed if you were an African American
Jenn:influencer in Memphis at the
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:Highly recommended.
Scott:That's why it's number 2 on our list.
Scott:Moving on from there is someone who is a a Memphis local that
Scott:many of you most people will know.
Scott:And this is the, I believe, the second most visited house in the entire nation.
Scott:So what is number 1 on our list
Jenn:It's Graceland.
Scott:It's Graceland.
Jenn:How can you not?
Jenn:It's the king.
Jenn:Again, so when we learned we're moving to Memphis, I think
Jenn:that is the 1 thing we knew.
Scott:It was Graceland.
Scott:And I because I had actually been there before.
Jenn:Mhmm.
Scott:15 years prior or something like that, maybe 12 years prior.
Jenn:So the other 4 places, Bass Pro Shop, Peabody, Bill Street,
Jenn:Lorraine, they're pretty close.
Jenn:You could probably walk to all of them.
Jenn:Graceland is off the beaten path.
Jenn:You you will have to wanna go visit that if you, specifically,
Jenn:if you wanna see it because it's at 37 64 Elvis Presley Boulevard.
Jenn:But at the time, it was the out skirts of Memphis, the only 4
Jenn:miles from the Mississippi border.
Scott:of a ranch
Jenn:Yeah.
Jenn:He had bought a ranch and it was Elvis's home from 19 7 to 19 77.
Jenn:So 20 years he lived there.
Jenn:And it it's preserved in the way it would have looked in the sixties.
Scott:It's awesome.
Jenn:it's amazing.
Jenn:And so what they have there too is they have the new Graceland
Jenn:Hotel, which is right beside it.
Jenn:And you can stay there and you can get suites with all different kind of themes.
Jenn:And they recreate the staircase in Graceland so you can actually because you
Jenn:can't walk up the real staircase, but you can walk up the staircase in the hotel.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:If you've been to Graceland before and you're you're listening to this, but you
Scott:haven't been, I think the hotel and kind of the new exhibits opened in about 20 19.
Jenn:Yes.
Scott:So we were there during the transition because it used
Scott:to just be really centralized.
Scott:Everything was at in Graceland proper, and then they really expanded.
Scott:They open up the
Scott:hotel, and they op they they took a lot of stuff, and they spread it out
Scott:to to exhibits across the street.
Scott:And now they have this really expansive, you know, kind of museum
Scott:experience for all of this Elvis stuff.
Scott:So if you haven't if you haven't been back since 20 19, there's
Scott:a lot to kinda go back and see.
Jenn:So we did it before and after.
Jenn:So we can talk about that.
Jenn:We were there for his fortieth anniversary of his death.
Jenn:And they had prepared for that with this huge expansion where they had
Jenn:taken everything out of the racquetball court, which used to hold all of
Jenn:his records and all of his costumes.
Jenn:They took everything out of the pool house, which used to hold all
Jenn:of the family kind of memorabilia, his tuxedo, Lisa Marie's crib,
Jenn:and moved it all into their own separate museums across the street.
Jenn:So across the street, there are huge museums just dedicated to
Jenn:Elvis life in the military, just dedicated to Elvis' costumes, just
Jenn:dedicated to Elvis' life in Tupelo.
Jenn:So it's an immersive place.
Jenn:You can you can spend a day there, even 2 or 3 days.
Jenn:And your tickets, you can buy tickets for different things.
Jenn:You can buy tickets just to see the house.
Jenn:You can buy tickets for the house and all the museums.
Jenn:You can buy tickets for the house museums and there's like food places there.
Jenn:And now they even have a auditorium to do shows.
Jenn:I saw Bret Michaels
Scott:Oh, that's right.
Jenn:So they have it's just a huge experience now.
Jenn:The house is great.
Jenn:We've seen the house many times.
Jenn:You can only visit the first floor.
Jenn:You cannot go up on the second floor.
Jenn:No one's allowed up there.
Jenn:But if you wanna just see the the graveyard, these the serenity garden where
Jenn:Elvis is buried with his parents, his
Scott:Right next to his pool.
Jenn:next to his pool, his grandson, and Lisa Marie, his daughter are all there.
Jenn:It's free every morning from 7 30 to 8 30 AM.
Jenn:You can park right in front and you can just walk right up.
Jenn:And they allow that every day, 1 hour.
Jenn:If you wanna pay your respects to the king like we did, we left him
Jenn:a flag for his military service.
Jenn:Now you don't get to go inside the house, but you can take
Jenn:pictures in front of the house.
Jenn:So if you didn't wanna spend the money or you didn't have the time or you're just
Jenn:driving through, it's very easy to stop.
Jenn:But it's only that 1 hour in the morning that is open for people to
Scott:It it really is walking through classic Americana.
Scott:He is
Scott:such kind of a part of the the American culture, and there's a
Scott:reason that is the second most visited house in the entire country, and and
Scott:number 1 would be the White House.
Jenn:Number one's the White House.
Jenn:And we know because as we live there, you would hear celebrities going to Graceland.
Scott:yeah.
Scott:I remember it was like Aerosmith and
Jenn:Jagger had gone when we were there.
Jenn:And so you would just see them in the news.
Jenn:Be like, oh, they went to Graceland today.
Jenn:So usually everybody who visits America, it's like going to Disney World.
Jenn:It's I'm gonna go to Disney World.
Jenn:I'm gonna go to Graceland.
Jenn:And when I was out there for Elvis week, it's the week of Elvis's
Jenn:death in August, they closed down the street in front of Graceland.
Jenn:And I would talk to people because I wanted to know, again, as a
Jenn:historian, what did Elvis mean to you?
Jenn:Why are you here?
Jenn:And most everyone was born.
Jenn:Most everyone was not from America.
Jenn:And it was just so amazing to be a part of that in that culture.
Jenn:So, yes, number 1 place to see in Memphis.
Jenn:If you're even driving through, you can just stop and check out Graceland.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:So so if you if you're listening if you're kinda listening and and you're
Scott:curious about our list, I would actually go in the in the reverse order.
Scott:Start with number 1.
Scott:If you have to visit 1 thing, you have to see Graceland.
Jenn:Well, we we need to add something onto that.
Scott:That's
Jenn:Sun Studio.
Scott:Yes.
Scott:The Sun Studio is not near Graceland.
Jenn:It's not near Graceland and it's not really it's kinda
Jenn:near downtown, but also away.
Jenn:So you have to be specifically looking for Sun Studio.
Jenn:Studio.
Jenn:And that's why we kinda kept it as a 1 a
Scott:This is our this is our bonus
Jenn:because you probably would want to see Sun Studio,
Jenn:specifically to see Sun Studio.
Jenn:And this is where Elvis recorded his first record.
Jenn:This is where the claim of they recorded the first rock and roll
Jenn:record in 19 50 Howling Wolf.
Jenn:And the and it Ike Turner was there and this is where they
Jenn:claimed the birth of rock and roll.
Jenn:Elvis Presley walked in at 18 years old in 19 53.
Jenn:He records his famous song, That's Alright, Mama, in 19 54.
Jenn:And it also has spawned all these other careers.
Jenn:You get Johnny Cash from there and Jerry Lee Lewis is from there.
Jenn:But you have famous, famous people who want to record in Sun Studio.
Jenn:And you 2 did an entire album from Sun Studio.
Jenn:So, again, that's I saw Mick Jagger was there and Aerosmith Steve
Jenn:Tyler was there when we were there.
Jenn:So it's another mecca of music, but people usually specifically want to see it.
Jenn:So it's our 1 a with
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:It's a I I call it a a bonus place to visit, you know, for this for this top 5.
Scott:And they do do public
Scott:tours.
Scott:So look them up ahead of time because you can you can get in there, and
Scott:you can stand next to the microphone.
Scott:You can take your picture in the studio and and do all the
Scott:fun stuff.
Jenn:microphone, Elvis.
Jenn:sang
Scott:right.
Scott:Yeah.
Jenn:1 last thing.
Jenn:Let's talk a little barbecue.
Scott:Yes.
Scott:So those are the top place top 5 places to visit.
Scott:Now the other thing that that area of the country is known for is the
Scott:barbecue.
Jenn:the barbecue.
Jenn:And we hear we heard everyone's opinions when we moved there.
Jenn:And we ate at a couple different places.
Jenn:So Rendezvous, definitely best ribs.
Scott:is phenomenal.
Jenn:off of Peabody.
Jenn:Blues City Cafe, definitely best gumbo.
Jenn:But if you're looking for other, there is Tops Barbecue.
Jenn:That's a big 1.
Jenn:Central Barbecue
Scott:a couple of those.
Jenn:have the best barbecue nachos.
Jenn:And then there's 1 that's not in Memphis.
Jenn:It's in actually in Mississippi.
Jenn:It's a Memphis barbecue.
Jenn:And Guy Ferreri was there.
Scott:That was probably honestly so we we tried all these
Scott:places, and Memphis barbecue was actually probably my favorite.
Scott:Just straight Scott Bennie's personal favorite.
Scott:Again, just across the border
Scott:That's that's right.
Scott:Because, you know, picture Memphis, it's that bottom left corner of Tennessee.
Scott:So it's right there.
Scott:The border is
Scott:not not far away.
Scott:It might be maybe 30 minutes
Scott:from Memphis, something like that.
Scott:But if you wanna try the different barbecue places, again, I'm gonna
Scott:list kinda all these places.
Scott:I'm gonna have links to them into all all the show
Jenn:Yes.
Jenn:I mean, most people do go for the food.
Jenn:You want some southern soul food and and that's definitely the places we ate at.
Jenn:Now the commissary has to be on the list too.
Jenn:It's outside of Memphis, but they do have amazing barbecue and banana
Jenn:pudding, which is my favorite.
Jenn:But, yeah, Memphis will always hold a special place in our heart.
Jenn:And there's so much more history there that we didn't cover.
Jenn:But these are the big ones if you've never been before and you just want to
Jenn:get a taste of Memphis driving through.
Jenn:These are definitely the top
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:We're we're excited to be moving back there.
Scott:And in future recorded episodes of Talk With History, we will be recording
Scott:from the Greater Memphis Area.
Scott:So history buffs, we've barely scratched the surface of Memphis' magic.
Scott:From Graceland's grandeur and to the grit of Beale Street,
Scott:this city pulsates with stories.
Scott:We hope you've enjoyed our whirlwind tour on this podcast.
Scott:Remember, history isn't confined to museum and monuments.
Scott:It lives in the music, the food, the very spirit of Memphis.
Scott:So head down there yourself and soak it in and see what stories you uncover.
Scott:Before we sign off, we wanna say a big thank you to all our listeners
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Scott:And if you're feeling peckish after all that southern comfort food talk, don't
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Scott:I'm gonna make sure to add some of those good barbecue options in there as well.
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