1 00:00:00,148 --> 00:00:03,471 When we have this kind of punitive form of 2 00:00:03,591 --> 00:00:06,713 punishment, what I would ask is what is it 3 00:00:06,814 --> 00:00:10,517 teaching children in the long run? Punitive punishment is 4 00:00:10,577 --> 00:00:13,759 not the answer because it doesn't teach our 5 00:00:13,799 --> 00:00:17,908 children anything. Welcome to Neuroeducation, where 6 00:00:17,948 --> 00:00:21,250 we're exploring the neuroscience of how to switch on the brain to 7 00:00:21,331 --> 00:00:25,133 supercharge learning. I'll be sharing with you innovative teaching techniques, 8 00:00:25,314 --> 00:00:28,796 effective parenting strategies, and educational advocacy. I'm 9 00:00:28,836 --> 00:00:33,100 your host, Angie Deeee. Together, let's revolutionize children's 10 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:36,783 learning. Hello 11 00:00:37,143 --> 00:00:40,726 and welcome back to Neuroeducation with Angie Dee. 12 00:00:40,826 --> 00:00:43,987 Thank you for tuning in for this episode. We're going 13 00:00:44,007 --> 00:00:47,189 to be diving in deep to looking at 14 00:00:47,329 --> 00:00:51,452 the reality of punishments and restorative 15 00:00:51,492 --> 00:00:54,994 justice within education, but this is also something 16 00:00:55,034 --> 00:00:58,396 that we can reflect on at home with how 17 00:00:58,496 --> 00:01:02,359 we treat our children and what kind of consequences 18 00:01:02,799 --> 00:01:05,961 punishments we're giving our own children and 19 00:01:06,162 --> 00:01:09,724 what really works in the long term. Traditionally in 20 00:01:09,865 --> 00:01:14,028 school we have what you would call a punitive method 21 00:01:14,468 --> 00:01:17,731 of punishment. That means if you've done 22 00:01:17,791 --> 00:01:21,294 something bad you get punished, you've been naughty, 23 00:01:21,614 --> 00:01:25,697 here's your punishment. You get a detention or you get a suspension or 24 00:01:25,757 --> 00:01:29,320 you get expulsion if you've done it enough times. 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,182 But I would ask you to think, what 26 00:01:33,682 --> 00:01:37,124 is this teaching our children? If 27 00:01:37,204 --> 00:01:41,125 they've done something that's incorrect, if 28 00:01:41,165 --> 00:01:44,407 they've misbehaved and you give 29 00:01:44,487 --> 00:01:48,909 them a punishment that doesn't fit the crime, they 30 00:01:48,949 --> 00:01:53,491 bully somebody, they get a detention. Has 31 00:01:53,731 --> 00:01:57,518 the bullying stopped or 32 00:01:57,578 --> 00:02:02,140 will it stop? Maybe, maybe not. But has the child learned 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,161 anything to improve that behaviour? So 34 00:02:06,681 --> 00:02:10,142 has they learned something to be, how to be more compassionate, how to relate 35 00:02:10,202 --> 00:02:14,643 more empathetically to, let's say if they bully Jessica, have 36 00:02:14,683 --> 00:02:18,504 they thought about that more deeply? Have they changed 37 00:02:18,744 --> 00:02:22,025 their morals to be kinder to 38 00:02:22,105 --> 00:02:25,524 others? So when we have this kind 39 00:02:25,564 --> 00:02:28,969 of punitive form of punishment, what 40 00:02:29,069 --> 00:02:32,334 I would ask is what is it teaching children in the long run? 41 00:02:33,035 --> 00:02:37,221 Is it teaching them to be responsible for their actions? Is 42 00:02:37,281 --> 00:02:41,098 it teaching them to make amends? to 43 00:02:41,178 --> 00:02:44,380 resolve their problems, to resolve their 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,763 actions and ideally to reconnect with 45 00:02:49,163 --> 00:02:52,645 whoever the person is that they've done it to, to make 46 00:02:52,705 --> 00:02:57,148 sure they have made amends for the whole situation. Because 47 00:02:57,248 --> 00:03:00,370 ideally that's the kind of skill we want for life. If 48 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:03,952 we fast forward 20 years and they're in a relationship and 49 00:03:03,972 --> 00:03:07,934 we have a husband and a wife partnership, what 50 00:03:07,955 --> 00:03:11,167 do we want each adult to be able 51 00:03:11,187 --> 00:03:14,489 to do in that relationship. If they make a mistake, if they've 52 00:03:14,529 --> 00:03:17,651 messed up, if they've done something wrong. We want them to be able to 53 00:03:17,711 --> 00:03:21,013 make amends. We want them to be able to talk about it, maybe to 54 00:03:21,053 --> 00:03:24,475 say sorry. We want them to have some kind of interception which 55 00:03:24,515 --> 00:03:27,877 means understanding what happened, what was going on in their mind, what 56 00:03:27,897 --> 00:03:32,280 was going on in their bodies, why did they act like that and 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,183 how can they make a positive change not to do that in the future. So 58 00:03:36,203 --> 00:03:41,466 they're not re-acting negatively but they're responding consciously. If 59 00:03:41,566 --> 00:03:45,351 we want that to happen between husbands and wives or 60 00:03:45,772 --> 00:03:49,236 in between co-workers, in between adults, we 61 00:03:49,277 --> 00:03:52,621 have to coach children how to be able to do that from a young age. 62 00:03:53,502 --> 00:03:57,567 Punitive punishment is not the answer because 63 00:03:57,607 --> 00:04:00,954 it doesn't teach our children anything. Yes, they get 64 00:04:01,054 --> 00:04:04,756 disciplined for something they've done, but it doesn't teach them how 65 00:04:04,836 --> 00:04:08,339 not to do it in the future or how to change their behaviour. 66 00:04:08,839 --> 00:04:12,541 Restorative justice is the new buzzword in 67 00:04:12,601 --> 00:04:16,964 America and it's a buzzword for a big reason. It 68 00:04:17,104 --> 00:04:20,327 is working and transforming the lives of 69 00:04:20,687 --> 00:04:24,109 parents, teachers, and students in 70 00:04:24,169 --> 00:04:28,073 American schools. In one American school 71 00:04:28,093 --> 00:04:31,615 where they implemented restorative justice, which means 72 00:04:31,635 --> 00:04:35,978 we're going to restore relationships 73 00:04:36,559 --> 00:04:39,781 and restore what has gone on to make 74 00:04:39,841 --> 00:04:43,624 amends. So where they've implemented restorative 75 00:04:43,664 --> 00:04:47,626 justice, they have seen misbehaviour. 76 00:04:48,347 --> 00:04:51,907 That means students acting out, and 77 00:04:52,267 --> 00:04:55,549 suspensions and expulsions reduce by 78 00:04:56,770 --> 00:05:01,072 50%. Now if 79 00:05:01,152 --> 00:05:04,313 you could go to any teacher in a primary school or 80 00:05:04,353 --> 00:05:07,575 a high school around Australia and you could say I can 81 00:05:07,655 --> 00:05:10,896 reduce misbehaviour, suspensions and 82 00:05:10,976 --> 00:05:14,918 expulsions by 50% I'm sure 83 00:05:15,098 --> 00:05:18,343 they would be all ears. tell me how you're doing it, 84 00:05:18,864 --> 00:05:22,845 because it's something we all face. Unfortunately, 85 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:26,887 with the demands of the curriculum, which we can debate later 86 00:05:27,047 --> 00:05:30,408 about how appropriate these demands of 87 00:05:30,468 --> 00:05:34,129 certain curriculums are in Australia, with the demands of the curriculum 88 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:37,731 and the pressures that teachers face and the pressures students face, 89 00:05:38,708 --> 00:05:42,190 They are literally on a steam train going through 90 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:45,892 subject after subject. How engaged are they? How interested 91 00:05:45,952 --> 00:05:49,794 are they? How empowered are they in their educational journey? 92 00:05:50,314 --> 00:05:53,535 Unfortunately for the teacher and the student, not a lot in 93 00:05:53,776 --> 00:05:57,297 our educational structure in Australia. However, this 94 00:05:57,377 --> 00:06:00,719 is something all teachers and even 95 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:04,741 parents at home can do to improve 96 00:06:05,661 --> 00:06:09,347 student behaviour. And that is called connection. 97 00:06:10,068 --> 00:06:13,791 Restorative justice is about preventative first. So 98 00:06:13,831 --> 00:06:18,134 we're preventing the behaviour by connecting with a student. And 99 00:06:18,174 --> 00:06:21,296 if you think about this, if there's a teacher that 100 00:06:21,316 --> 00:06:24,499 you really like, how often did you 101 00:06:24,539 --> 00:06:28,061 misbehave for that teacher? Very rarely. 102 00:06:28,562 --> 00:06:31,864 If there's a teacher you didn't like, how often did 103 00:06:31,884 --> 00:06:35,787 you misbehave for that teacher? In Montessori, 104 00:06:36,887 --> 00:06:40,148 The first few weeks of any schooling year 105 00:06:40,268 --> 00:06:43,870 is really about bringing the students and the teachers together 106 00:06:45,471 --> 00:06:49,212 and making sure there's a cohesive classroom environment. 107 00:06:49,733 --> 00:06:53,314 So just like when you get to finally go on a school camp 108 00:06:53,354 --> 00:06:56,540 and they play all these team games, This is 109 00:06:56,620 --> 00:07:00,644 what is done at the beginning of every school year in Montessori and 110 00:07:00,864 --> 00:07:04,367 I feel like if teachers invest more 111 00:07:04,488 --> 00:07:08,351 time at the beginning of the school year, yes demands 112 00:07:08,431 --> 00:07:11,975 aside, into allowing children to 113 00:07:12,375 --> 00:07:15,799 build those relationships in the classroom and consciously building 114 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:19,757 those relationships with their students then 115 00:07:20,258 --> 00:07:24,001 what we see is better and better behaviour. And the restorative justice 116 00:07:24,301 --> 00:07:27,983 and the research on it in America is so clear. 117 00:07:28,884 --> 00:07:32,107 It works. Yes, it takes time. It's 118 00:07:32,167 --> 00:07:35,949 not a one stop shop. It's going to be fixed in a minute. It 119 00:07:36,029 --> 00:07:39,812 takes time, but it works. It's an approach that 120 00:07:39,912 --> 00:07:43,075 works for the long term. And 121 00:07:43,895 --> 00:07:47,538 if you want a positive classroom environment, if 122 00:07:47,930 --> 00:07:51,372 you want your children to feel connected and 123 00:07:51,392 --> 00:07:55,314 to be working positively 124 00:07:55,454 --> 00:08:00,136 with you and with others around you for not 125 00:08:00,196 --> 00:08:03,418 just fear of punishment but for the joy of 126 00:08:03,538 --> 00:08:06,680 connection then this is something you 127 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:10,641 want to be able to implement and research more on. Restorative 128 00:08:10,702 --> 00:08:14,023 justice, it's a buzzword and that's just 129 00:08:14,103 --> 00:08:18,254 because it works. Thank you for tuning in 130 00:08:18,274 --> 00:08:22,015 to this podcast. Do us a massive favor. 131 00:08:22,115 --> 00:08:25,757 It really helps the podcast if you leave us a five star review on 132 00:08:26,157 --> 00:08:29,718 Apple podcasts or on Spotify and please 133 00:08:29,778 --> 00:08:33,379 subscribe on YouTube. Follow all the links down below 134 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,021 for all the information that you need from Angie