Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode on the NJ podcast.

And remember that the theme of the show is that success is a progressive realization of a worthy idea.

That means you're going after what you've always wanted to go after because it's aligned with your highest values.

And that is the only way for you to live a truly fulfilled, inspired life.

And on the show, we've got, we speak to people from all walks of life, people who are famous and some people who act like they're not famous, people who are fitness freaks.

And we speak to politicians, teachers, actors, or people from all walks of life, because everybody has got a story to share and insights that we can all learn from.

And everyone is on their own success journey.

And you will find us on all of the podcast platforms, you'll find us on the YouTube.

And today, finally.

Oh, it's been a while.

This has been a long time overdue.

I have got the one, the only, and the most famous person in the world whose name is that?

Elon Musk.

See a stone.

And she is.

She's absolutely awesome.

It's about time.

It's a long time coming that this has been coming.

So she is Sia Stone.

If you know, you know, you know, you know.

And she is the head coach and owner.

Listen, Layla, owner.

We only speak to owners on this show.

Pela, owner at Misfit Bedford View.

She's a yoga instructor at Virgin active and an independent herbalife distributor.

And her goal is to help more people live a healthy, active lifestyle and teach them how to share their healthy lifestyle with others.

She's built classes that started off with six people to 42.

Is it still 42?

Is it more than that now?

Yeah, it's still ranging there.

Okay.

Six to 42 people where each person has fallen in love with their bodies.

Oh, yes.

Yes.

I need to join so I can form in love with my poor.

Yeah.

When they feel stronger, more flexible and more aware of themselves in their body.

And her ladies get results within ten days of consistent efforts and training towards their body goals.

Thank you very much for all the time.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, it's good to have you on.

So, Sia, outside of you being the girl boss, the owner of your own fitness empire, budding fitness empire.

Just tell us more about yourself.

Where is it you come from, where you studied?

And just what makes you so passionate about the topic of health and fitness?

Yeah.

Okay, so I am Sia Stone from Bedfordview.

I went to school in Bedfordview, went to Rhodes University for varsity ru.

That's it.

Look, at school, I was always really into sports, was where I thrived the most, so took that on.

And then in varsity, did drama, organizational psychology.

I did human kinetics and ergonomics.

You're the smart people.

Like, I never could understand what you guys are doing.

What do you guys do?

Yeah, we're understanding the body.

Okay.

All right.

Sure, sure.

So with the drama and the human kinetics and ergonomics, I'm just going to refer to it as hke.

Hke.

Yeah, yeah.

I was able to just bring my love for moving my body, the sports, into one.

I've always really been into entertaining.

I've entertained my friends just sitting and, you know, making jokes, laughing around.

Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, after that, came back to Joburg, did some work at a production house.

Yeah.

Then I felt pregnant.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

All right.

So I am a mom to a seven year old boy.

Oh, you're a mom.

She's a mom to a seven year old boy.

Mom to a seven year old.

Boyden.

M I l f.

You know.

Yes.

Okay, I'll take it.

I still feel fresh anyway.

I know, I know.

Someone's thinking that right now.

I can tell you that someone's forgetting right now.

Yeah.

So, yeah, then I stayed home, took care of him, and then ended up getting another job at this place called active education.

So we're doing edutainment.

Then again with my drama and my movement.

Went there.

Then I decided, no, actually, I need to do something with my life.

It's something that I really enjoy.

And I remember the one time I got invited to this free yoga class.

It was an african kemetic yoga class, and I fell in love.

African kinetic, ancient egyptian yoga.

Ancient egyptian yoga.

Okay, so did that class.

Fell in love.

I knew that I needed to share that with everyone.

How?

I had no idea, but the universe heard me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Got an opportunity from the production house that I was working with.

They had this deal that they were doing with liberty life, and they needed an extra and a talent, and they picked me.

So had to go through all the auditions and all of that.

Got it.

Got a nice pay that could pay my yoga training.

Okay.

So I just paid for that.

Went into that.

I didn't know how I was going to move from there, but I just.

I did it because I knew that this was my thing.

Ended up getting certified.

I got, like.

I don't want to say let go, but I did go and check planet fitness, virgin active to see if they were keen to take me on.

And no, unfortunately not.

This was.

I want to say, 2019.

2019.

Five years ago?

Yeah.

All right.

I approached this private studio, the nest space, and they were keen to take me on.

So I started there.

I did online training and.

Yeah, for years, because, I mean, you know, Covid did its thing.

Covid was amazing.

Covid was amazing.

The best thing ever.

All right.

How not.

Oh, my goodness.

Because people didn't lose their jobs and their houses and their cars and their money and their businesses.

Mental health was all in general.

Mental health was at an all time high.

Money was abundant.

Geez.

Like, it was absolutely great.

It was amazing.

No, no, it was a dumpster fire.

I want a refund.

I want my refund.

That's every single year now.

I check.

I want to check the terms and conditions of the next year before I enter.

Wow.

Yeah.

But anyways, through the online training, then joined joined herbalife.

Okay.

That was when I was like, okay, cool.

I've got my certificate.

I can do online training.

I can jump on these products.

Yeah, yeah.

Use them, sell them, help others do the things and.

Yeah.

Been uphill from then.

Yeah, from then being able to work at Virgin active.

I had so many classes in the week.

I was at so many private studios.

I then got approached by the head coach at misfit, Bedford View, to be a butterfly coach.

And what's a butterfly coach?

It's like a fill in, like a part time coach.

My only reference to butterflies is swimming.

Yeah.

And that was my main stroke.

I used to be a swimmer.

Oh, you used to be a swimmer as well?

You know, you're breaking stereotypes because.

Yeah, yeah, come on.

I know, but I mean, I grew up in Bedford View.

Oh, yeah, I grew up.

I was in the view.

Yeah, you were in the view.

People call it deaf review.

Bedford View.

Deaf review.

Sometimes I know why.

No, I don't want to say anything about that, but I know why.

It's in the name.

Dead.

What happened?

What happened, man?

What happened?

Because I still.

I serve some.

Some of my offices over there, and then when I'm there, I'm like, why do you call this place dead?

For the view.

Now there's too many shootings.

People are dying.

Oh, all the shootings.

Oh, yeah, I heard about a few of those, but I just thought it was an anomaly.

I thought, it's an actual thing.

It's an actual thing.

It's an actual thing.

I remember at the back of our house, I don't know what was going on at Bedford center, but I think there was a shooting there and right at the back.

So we stay in a gated community, and we are, like, at that.

Oh, look at that.

They stayed in gated community.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

You didn't choose this life.

This life chose you.

Hey, hey.

What must I do?

Hey.

Yeah.

So there was a shooting literally happening right at the back.

I could see.

If I stood by my son's room, I could see what was going on.

You could see the shootout happening.

No, no.

But I was hiding.

Why would I be like, oh, let me just see where.

No, just go back a little bit.

You missed the person on the left.

No, like, dancing.

Mandy.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm not going inside, but, yeah, it's.

It's deadfit view for a reason.

Oh, okay.

I thought it was just quiet.

That's why you're okay.

I.

That's.

I didn't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It could be also because it's quiet.

But now I've got a real reason why they call it dead for you now.

That's.

That's my reason.

That's your reason?

I said I have another reason why.

Yeah, yeah.

Not the reason.

Yeah.

No, no.

There are multiple reasons, clearly.

Okay.

But.

All right.

I love it.

It is.

It is quite quiet when it's quiet.

It's quiet.

Yeah.

It's very enjoyable.

But, man, it's hectic.

And it's hectic.

It's proper hectic.

It's hectic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, sure.

I'm gonna stop going to the movies there.

There's east gate, and there's Bedford Center.

I like going to the movies there, but now I'm not so sure anymore.

It's okay.

Just.

Yeah.

Nowhere safe.

I'll say that.

Nowhere is safe.

Yeah.

Nowhere.

Someone can just pop off and be like, eyo.

Yeah, that is very true.

Like, anywhere.

That is very true.

That is very true.

Okay.

Yeah.

Right.

So, uh, misfit Bedford view.

Misfit Bedford view.

I was there, um, did my part time thing there.

She was.

I think she was getting married.

Is that the owner who said, you need to become a butterfly?

The head coach.

The head coach.

Okay.

Sure.

She approached me, and she asked.

She came to one of my classes, and she was blown away.

And she was like, you know what?

Actually come through.

African kemetic, not kinetic.

Yo.

Yeah.

African.

African kinetic.

Yes.

How's that?

Yes, yes, yes.

That's my son's name, actually.

Amun.

Ra.

Amun, not Ra.

We've changed Ra to Langa because Ra and Langa have, like, an energetic.

They share the same energetic.

I thought they meant the same thing, though.

Ra is like the rays of the sun.

Oh, I thought it was the sun.

Okay.

Yeah.

And the sun.

The rays of the many things.

It's like seeing what you see, what you don't see.

Yeah, there's a lot of things, but, yeah.

So we've changed it to Amun langa.

Okay.

Instead of.

But yeah.

Ended up there, and then I think she.

Life was laughing with her.

Oh, okay.

And they obviously needed someone to fill in her space, so then they asked me to fill in the space, and then I ended up becoming the head coach at the misfit, Bedford View.

I remember I was standing on the rooftop, and I was just like, whoa.

Like, I would love to have one misfit, like, just for myself and have my own studio.

It's such a beautiful space.

And my boss, the owner at the time, asked me what I wanted to do for the next five years, and I mentioned it to her, and she was like, okay, cool.

I want to own Bedford View.

No, a misfit.

Because she has Bedford view.

Right.

So I was like, I mean, I don't know where, but it would be.

I want your job.

I want your job.

Yeah.

She approached me a few months after that, and she offered the space to me, and I was like, okay, okay.

She's like, would you be keen to buy?

And I was like, yeah.

Not knowing what this means, how this.

And I was also mind blown because, like, how is this happening?

And I'm.

I'm just, like, feeling and thinking of having the space.

Yeah, yeah.

Not.

I wasn't doing the research or anything like that, so it was pretty cool when.

When she approached me.

So, yeah.

Signed everything, and by the 1 September, it was mine.

By the 1 September was yours?

Yeah.

Okay.

How did you finance it?

That's just me being.

Well, loans.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I thought they were going to give it to you for free.

No, no, no.

She's very nice, though.

She like the payment plan and all of that.

She's been very, very kind with that.

Okay.

And obviously, this was after Covid, right?

This has happened.

Like, now.

Now.

Like, now now.

I like now.

Like, now.

The 1 September.

I thought.

Yeah, yeah.

Well done, well done, well done, well done.

Geez, that's good.

Yeah.

Wow.

I'm gonna go out and have some juice after this to celebrate.

Sparkling juice?

Just juice?

No appetizer?

No, no, no.

Just juice.

No.

No sparklers?

No, no, no, no.

You're not gonna get me canceled.

No, absolutely.

I'm gonna have some juice to go celebrate.

I'm gonna have, you know, the health shots.

The health shots.

You know, the ginger and the turmeric.

I'm gonna have those whole shots to celebrate.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

But anyway, well done.

That's amazing.

That is amazing.

I love seeing people win.

Yeah.

Amazing.

I love it.

Yeah.

No, it's.

It's definitely been a journey.

Yeah.

I appreciate it.

So how does it make you feel?

Like.

Look, I will say that my energy and my vibe towards, like, myself and the space has changed.

Okay.

Completely.

I wake up different.

I step into the space different.

I walk different.

Yeah.

Do you walk around like you own the place?

Because you do.

I need to.

Ah, yes.

That's my spot.

That's my house.

Yes.

You know, it is my sandpaper.

And if you don't like it, you can get out.

There.

It is.

But, yeah, I definitely do feel different.

Sometimes.

It can get overwhelming, because for the longest time, I was only doing yoga with people, selling products to people.

Yeah, yeah.

Helping with transformations and, like, just physically moving my body now it's admin.

Now it's making sure that rent is paid.

Is there still toilet paper?

Like, is that an actual concern?

It's an actual concern for other people, not just you.

No, no, no.

Like, is this space still moving the way it needs to?

Like, how can I improve?

How do I just better myself?

Better?

The space, it's different now.

Completely different.

There are no games are being played.

No, no, no.

And it's nice because everything then comes back to me.

Yeah.

So I really need to put my best foot forward.

Yeah.

100%, all the time now.

You just can't oversleep.

No.

What's that?

You see?

You see?

That even exists?

This is a message to all the employees out there who've never owned a business a day in their life.

No.

They come to work late and then they want bonuses and promotions.

Have done nothing.

Own something and then miss a payment and see what happens.

It's insane.

Yeah, it is insane.

But very grateful, because now I'm definitely out of my comfort zone.

I had no idea what was the next step after just doing what I was doing, being an instructor.

But now here I am.

This is the next step.

That's amazing.

That is amazing.

You still write all yours for that rhyme to give you a gift when you double this one.

This is monumental.

Monumental, right.

So explain the tenets of yoga to me, please, because I understand yoga to be just stretching.

That's my basic understanding of it.

And then others say that there's spiritual implications to it.

Some conservatives saying, like, oh, you're gonna be possessed.

Others are saying that it's aligning with.

Aligning with your energies.

Please explain to me, as a person who's a noob, a novice, in understanding what yoga is.

So, yoga is the Sanskrit name of union of mind, body, spirit, because we are mind, body, and spirit of the asanas are the postures.

We call them asanas.

And yes, there is a lot of stretching in yoga.

Yoga can be very strength based.

So the yoga that I have been teaching recently at virgin active has been strength based.

African kinetic yoga has a bit of strength to it, but more alignment and, liKe, endurance.

Yeah.

So it is the alignment of the energy centers.

There are seven main energy centers that the SANSkrit yogis, the HATHA yogis, the vinyasa yogis focus on.

But we actually have about.

And I might be butchering this, but 108 energy centers in our bodies.

Did you say 108?

108 energy centers.

But the main ones that we focus on is the root chakra, the sacral chakra, your solar plexus.

Okay.

The heart chakra, throat chakra, your third eye, and the crown.

So, solar plexus is your stomach.

Right.

Solar plexus right here by your diaphragm, like, just a few fingers away from the diaphragm.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

So when reason I know that is because I used to watch the wwe a lot.

Oh, he got punched in the solar.

Solar pexels.

Yes.

Okay.

Right, right there.

Yeah.

It is exactly where it is.

What happens if someone punches you there?

Yeah.

Like, think about it.

I'm asking, do you die?

Whatever.

No, no, no.

Not die.

But on an energetic level, there is an imbalance that happens 100%.

The aim is always to try keep your energy centers balanced so that you are really aligned in yourself, not for anyone else but yourself.

There is a spiritual aspect to Yoga because of the energy centers.

Yeah, yeah.

Right.

So I kept on reading this one thing.

It's literally left my mind.

But the energy centers is literally, like, who we are.

Okay.

Right.

Without them, we don't exist.

So with each energy center, they have, like, a different thing that they run.

Yeah.

So, for your root chakra, it's your legs, your feet.

You're grounding, you're feeling secure, you're feeling safe.

It's inertia.

Right.

And then your sacral chakra is the sex organs, your creativity, your.

I'm being.

Almost not.

I'm being.

But your feeling.

Right.

And then you've got.

Your Solar plexus is your willpower, your discipline, your go getter energy.

The heart chakra is very much about love.

Loving yourself, loving others, and just taking care of self.

It's the bridge between the lower energy centers and the higher energy centers.

Then you've got your throat chakra that is in charge of hearing, listening, communication.

But, like, honest communication.

I know with me, if I'm not speaking honestly to myself or listening properly to what anyone else is saying to me, and I know that I need to hear it.

I feel like a.

It's almost as if lump in your throat.

Not even a lump.

It feels like someone on the inside or something on the inside.

Is striking you.

Yeah.

Is reaching me like this.

So is that how I can spot a liar?

Like.

No, you can spot yourself lying to yourself.

Oh, not spot someone else lying to me.

No, no.

That's what I want to know, man.

You can tell someone if they're lying because you can even hear it, right?

Lies you can hear.

Yeah.

If you're just gonna say this, this, and I'm lying to you, like, I'm the greatest basketball player in the world.

I've been playing for the NBA.

I'm an Olympic swimmer.

I can already feel myself, like, lying.

I can feel it.

Like, my body's just like, you're a liar.

You're a liar.

But you can also see, like, the way I was, like, acting, I guess the performance you can.

We are in tune.

But some people are very good liars, though.

Yeah.

It's the micro movements that you need to watch.

The micro movements, because you might even see that someone starts to do the.

Shoes moving or like a tiny or someone is busy.

Like, you know, there's always things that you can see.

The third.

The third eye, this one.

It's literally what you see.

But, like, your creativity, your visualizations, what you say, and see yourself in the future, in the past, in the present.

Oh, is it right?

And then the crown chakra is you being my being.

Okay.

You are just your being.

You're here.

Okay.

Your presence.

Okay.

All right, cool.

Yeah.

Third eye, how does that work?

Like, what's the importance?

I know you're talking about.

It's how you see yourself past, present and future.

You being in tune.

Yeah.

And I know some people talk about opening your third eye.

Is that an important thing?

It's something that we can all do.

It would be great if we can all do it.

Look, not everyone thinks that it is important.

So for me, yes, it's nice to have.

Because then, like, you're in, your intuition is different.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, the lying thing of catching someone lying.

If someone is lying through their teeth and you can't really see because they're holding it down, but you can, like, you can see.

No, man.

Oh, lord.

There's something.

Game recognized game.

And you're looking pretty familiar right now.

You are lying to me.

Okay.

You understand?

Opening your third eye just helps you being aware of the space where you are reading the room.

If you like that whole feeling, I don't know if people still feel it, but you go into a room and you can feel.

Actually, it's feeling a bit.

I shouldn't be here.

Yeah.

Or yes, it's a vibe.

It's because of the energies that we let out, because our energy centers are not only just on the inside, they go out into our auric field.

And you can also probably feel this with people's bubbles.

Right?

If you standing a bit too close to someone and then they want to step back.

Like, you.

You're in my personal space.

Men, get out.

I should have a stick.

Like, hey, yeah.

That's one thing I really appreciated about COVID But now the social distancing, now people don't get it.

People are still like, you're standing in line with gas.

Like, right here.

Like, you're right here.

Like, no, you don't need to be this close to me.

Like, but there's a lot to yoga.

I can really go deep.

We do a lot of breath work.

It's a lot of.

And I like to say this, like, when doing yoga, you really start to feel who you are in the space.

You're more aware of your body.

And I really like it for people who train on a daily basis, because when you're doing the asanas, you're on the mat, you're doing the things.

You're breathing.

You can feel your body changing.

Your energy centers are opening up.

Some of them are getting balanced.

You're releasing a whole lot of traumas.

But you know what it feels like to be balanced in this spot.

Then you go to the gym and you hit a workout, and then you feel a.

I'm about to land.

Funny.

You can catch yourself quickly.

Is it?

You already know, like, especially with hiking.

Hiking is a great example where the stones and the rocks are not leveled.

Some of them are loose.

The moment you take a step, you can already feel that.

This one is a bit tricky.

Okay, then you're okay.

You know that you can step back.

Or if.

Even if you're doing something, I don't know, like, how do I explain this with, let's say when I'm chatting about myself and I want to get to know myself for myself, and I'm journaling and I'm writing all this stuff down, and I can feel, okay, this feels like it's just pouring out of me.

It feels good.

And then I try to adjust what I'm trying to think, and then it's like, okay, let me go back to the truth.

Yeah, yeah.

It's not nice sometimes when you see, okay, these are the facts.

But those are the facts.

These are the facts.

Yeah.

It's just being aware of yourself, learning how to breathe.

It also helps with posture.

And this is a chat that a lot of people have about yoga, is that we always try to in the alignment.

So when you start, you always want to keep your spine erect.

You want to keep the energy centers one on top of the other, so that when you're moving, you're able to keep everything open.

You know what I mean?

Um, but, yeah, it really is an experience.

It's a practice for a reason, because you need to keep going back into it to do it.

It's not a one stop shop, as I.

It's not like I just go there for a tune up and then stop.

No, you gotta continue.

I want to use this term way.

Of life, quote unquote, way of life.

Okay.

It is a way of life because you do.

Yeah.

You are aware of the things that you.

You need to do good to yourself, right.

When you do good to yourself, you can do good to others.

And it's not even a thing of, like, I'm trying because it's who you are.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then, controversial question.

Do people get possessed while doing yoga?

So I think the possession part of the yoga comes from the fact that a lot of the sanskrit poses, like the hatha poses do, and even the comedic poses, and I don't want to lie about this, is we mimic the deities or the gods of Sanskrit.

Sanskrit.

Or then the kemetic deities.

That would be like your horuses and.

Yes, your osara.

Your oset.

Who's this other one?

Is it Osiris?

Osiris.

Osa.

Oh, okay.

And then Isis is osset.

Oset.

Oh, okay.

I didn't know.

I just know the names that I know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But you're just mimicking the energies that they carry.

So even with, like, a pose, like a yogic squat, that really is.

It's a grounding pose to help you with gratification.

When you're sitting in that squat, you're open you're very open, right?

Sure.

You're encouraged to keep everything open and then in that pose you just, it's the energy that pose carries of like you're grounded.

It's safe to share what you're grateful for.

Okay.

Okay.

You know what I mean?

And then there's pose of Osa.

Pose of Osa is very like stern, sturdy, rock solid.

I've got this, but also doesn't exist without oset.

So it's a thing of like I've got masculine energy in me.

Yes.

But I also have my feminine energy in me, so I'm guided in a balanced way.

Yeah.

So it's just the energy of.

It's not necessarily I am.

Okay, okay, the pose, yeah, yeah.

So I think because there's many gods in these different with the yoga.

But isn't, doesn't yoga have its roots in, is it, is it Hinduism?

Is that where originates from?

Yes.

So then how did it get to african kinetic.

So, yeah, I.

These are the chats, right.

What's your chat, Sierra?

What's your chat?

What's your chat?

So from what I remember in my studies is african kemetic yoga is the originator.

It comes from Africa, from Egypt.

Right.

Ancient Egypt.

Doctor Umar Johnson is going to be very happy to hear.

100%, 100%.

What happened is back in the day and many years ago, when the people were migrating, the cousins of the ancient Egyptians migrated to India, the Dravidians.

The Dravidians took the practice with them because it is a way of life.

Took it with them to India.

Yeah, they did the things and then they got colonized by the English, the British almost.

They merged the yoga with gymnastics.

Oh, okay, okay.

And then it became gymnastics.

Gymnastics.

A lot of people might be like, you've got this wrong, which is okay, this is the story that I understand.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So if you've got different facts, come through with it, please, because it's very nice for us to ask her, not me.

I don't know, it's nice for us to learn, but this is the story that I remember from the books that I was reading.

So that's what happened really.

But yoga is.

Yoga is yoga.

It has the same effect of alignment, getting to know yourself, being aware of yourself, doing good to yourself, because it is then, like I said, body, mind and spirit, what you're consuming, be it food, information, music, what you're smelling like, you know what I mean?

So you pretty much have to mind everything that you do.

Yeah.

Like how are you breathing, you know, like exactly I mean, you can already feel panting, like that is going to make you anxious.

So when you already feel like you're.

Worked up, like, oh, this person is trying me today, then you just like.

Because we teach people how to breathe different ways, then you like, another breath that I like to do if I'm starting to get like.

Is just like curling my tongue, and then.

I already feel calm on this.

It's like the.

It's cooling.

It's a cooling breast.

Oh, is it?

Yeah.

And it really does cool you down.

You're like, okay, where does.

What does wusa come from?

From bad boys two.

I love that I can't do it here because where does it come from?

I actually don't even know.

Oh, is it okay?

It's not a yoga thing.

Okay.

All right.

Yes, yes, yes.

Relax.

Yes.

The taxi driver cut you off again.

It's okay.

No, but I feel like now for.

If you've been driving for a while.

And you've been in South Africa, you must know, you.

You just need to give them away because let them go on a strike.

Just, ah, it's a madness.

If the taxi drivers go, there we go.

I don't want them to go on.

No, exactly.

So just drive.

Guys, they are helping the economy.

Economy.

They've been building that economy like that for a very long time.

Let's let them have their spot.

Yes.

Even if they stop in the middle of the road.

It's their spot.

Yeah, it's their spot.

They stop in the middle of the road.

Like, I don't even get.

I don't even get upset.

I appreciate the hazards when they put their lights on.

You know, I'm like, I'm grateful that you actually get it.

Yeah, but in the middle of the road, bro.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Someone is on the way to feed their family.

That's.

That's it.

I'm not.

I'm not going to stand, shout out.

To the taxi driver's, yo, taxi boss on the show.

But, uh, do it.

What?

Me?

I don't want to die.

I don't want to die.

So, guys, if you know a taxi boss out there who is safe?

I just want to just chat about the business model around the taxi industry.

I don't want.

Look, I feel like some of them are actually really nice.

I don't think.

I think they need to be, like, rough and tough because of the industry.

You've heard stories, but when have you never heard stories anywhere?

There are some stories that I am more afraid of than others.

I'm sure there's the samburi me.

I'll find them.

I'll find them.

But I just.

I just want to die.

No, you won't.

Come on.

I just want to die.

Yeah, I'll find them.

The day I remember doing some consulting work for Sa taxi.

They're the guys that fund taxi owners for their.

For their buses and for their cars.

No wonder these guys are so angry.

Do you know what you need to go through just to get insurance and funding for a vitaxing?

My gosh.

No, no, no, no.

Guys, there has to be a better way.

No, no, no, no.

The interest rates are.

Matt, I sort of get that.

The application, the background checks, all of that.

It's like, sort of you being self employed and then you want a loan from a bank.

Yeah.

Think about that process a hundred times harder, because then they'll ask you questions, like being some guys and stuff.

They'll ask you questions because I do work for a bank.

Right.

So then I understand the question that they'll ask you.

Okay, so, sia, on this day, when that debit order went off, but then it was returned, what happened?

They questioned everything.

Everything.

Oh, geez.

Like, yeah, I'm gonna get a taxi pass on.

Yeah, do it.

I think there's.

There's definitely one that's keen.

Well, that's keen.

Yeah, send them through.

Send them through.

Yeah, I'll make sure.

I'll move my guests for next week.

Yeah, 100%.

So.

So, basically, when you're on the road, you're seeing a taxi driver cut you off, you can just do that pose, right?

Do that pose.

Okay.

They're just feeding the family.

They're just.

They're feeding the family.

I literally, that's, like, the one thing that I always say to myself if I start to go into, like, a negative.

Yeah.

Thought process, like, I.

The moment I catch myself, I, like, poor myself with positivity, like, overflow, so that I can.

How do you.

How do you do that for a lot of people?

Because, um, I don't, if you understand, I know this, uh, you.

A lot of people are angry.

Yes.

They just.

They're just angry.

Unprovoked at work in shopping malls and shopping centers.

The cashiers are unhappy.

The people who are working at the gym are unhappy sometimes.

All of them.

Not notion, act of select.

I mean, I.

Everyone's great there.

Right?

Right.

I.

Right, right.

Okay, maybe not so a lot of people.

A lot of people.

Don't break my heart here.

A lot of people are.

I feel that the anger that they have and the hostility that they have is, it's too much.

And I don't think it's rooted in something that is.

I don't know what the word is that it's, it's that.

Not that it's viable, that it's actually, they're making things out of things that are not things.

You know what I mean?

So with the people that are very angry, wholesale, what are some of the practices that you will suggest that they take and how do they pour themselves with positivity?

Like, how do you do it?

Look, those things are hectic, first and foremost, because you need to be keen to change your mindset.

It's a mindset thing.

Who are you spending the most time with?

Yourself.

Yep.

That is true.

You are with yourself every single time.

Sleeping, waking, all the days.

If you're tired of being sick and tired of being angry, upset, always, things will happen.

And you are now able to take that and be like, okay, it's on me, then we can move.

Yeah, you can do the things.

But if you're still gonna be like that person, this situation.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm just gonna let you vent.

But isn't it easier to do your thing, blame other people and be angry at other people isn't easier?

Yeah.

Okay, then for me to look at.

Myself and like, why would you want to blame yourself?

Why?

Why, Meena?

As perfect as I am, Mina, it's all you people.

Magic.

I'm the greatest.

I am the greatest.

It's tough.

It really is tough.

And I will stick by this.

It is a mindset thing.

I'm very grateful.

Look, the people who reminded me, the herbalife community, my yoga teacher who shut it down, Ursula, they gave me books.

I read the books.

Things that I had to practice to get into this mindset.

And being okay with that, understanding what negative energy does to you, and then how you can just use the positive energy and help mask that.

I've been told many times that I'm on, like, a toxic positivity train or I'm way too positive.

How is that?

And I'm like, help me understand.

No, I don't understand.

So I can help you understand.

Help me understand.

They use the words toxic positivity?

Yes.

The last time I checked, they don't.

Yeah.

What's that thing in English?

I don't know.

What?

It's oxymoron.

It's not an oxymoron.

Right.

It doesn't work like the two opposite things.

Yeah.

Look, I don't get it.

And, yeah, I don't know.

So maybe your positivity is being toxic.

To them, probably because it was a.

I remember.

I don't want to say names, but I was having a chat with a friend, and it was a thing of like, but how are we gonna get a car?

Like, the stresses of this and that?

Where's the money for this?

And I was like, just put it out into the universe.

Be grateful for this car that you don't have.

Like, I'm grateful I have this car.

I'm grateful that I get to pour.

Petrol in this car until the petrol prices go up.

No, because when the petrol price goes up, this means that more money is coming in.

Sure, sure.

Right.

For you to afford that.

Right.

So just being in that mindset, but that whole thing, I don't think they were understanding what was going on or where I was coming from.

They were like, you were definitely starting.

There you go.

With all your positivity, actually.

You know what I mean?

I will say that it's helped me a lot.

Like, I would not be able to be at the place that I'm in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Without that mindset of, I can do this, and the universe has got me.

Yeah.

Can you give us a time where you're, like, other than Covid, or you can use Covid, whatever it is, where you're, like, you're filled in.

You're in this negative space, negative mindset, negative time, negative situation.

Then you were able to flip it around with your toxic positivity.

Sure.

Yeah.

I remember I was actually hosting my first herbalife boot camp at Galuli's farm.

And I had invited all these people from Facebook, my friends.

I was like, homies, we are doing this.

Got food, got all my shakes, got all the mats, got tables, got clothes.

I literally got everything.

And then I.

Night before.

Sorry, Sia, I can't make it.

Sorry, Sia, I'm not gonna make it.

And legit.

Everyone other than one said that they weren't able to make it.

Listen, with every single.

Sia, I can't make it.

My heart.

Do you understand?

You don't understand.

My heart was beating like that.

So hard, so sore.

But I was like, no.

Do you do the Denzel Washington?

You think you can do this to me?

I put in cases at all.

You people shoot program lockdown.

No, I was saying, so many people are coming to this place.

Oh, this pooch.

You carried on saying that even though people.

Even though these messages were coming in and I was filling it up, my heart would be so sore.

And I would fill up with, I'm so excited.

So many people are coming to this boot camp.

It's going to be the greatest bootcamp I've ever hosted.

It's going to be amazing.

Everyone's going to love it.

Love it.

I kept on saying it with every single cancellation.

Then come the day, and I was like, yeah, the mats are laid out.

I've got my table, I've got my shakes, I've got my food, all the things.

It's game time and it's game time, but one mat is full.

I was like, wow, one mat.

One mat.

I was like, okay, cool.

No, it's fine.

My mom came.

That friend that was the one who did not cancel still came through.

Yeah.

There were so many people at Galuli's farm, I had no space.

Like, everyone came through to fill it up.

So people who you didn't invite happened to be there still?

No, the people I invited didn't come.

Yeah, but the people at Galuli, at.

The farm, that's what I'm referring to.

At the farm.

They decided to go.

Yeah.

Oh, wow, look at that.

They came through, they filled it up.

I got all how Philip Coululy is.

It was a true success because I got a whole lot of clients from them.

That was when I knew that, no, this thing works.

This thing works.

You just gotta also radiate that positive energy, because also, if you're in that vibe.

I was gonna say the other vibes.

Yeah, that.

Those.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you're in those vibes.

Yeah, yeah.

Then you're gonna.

People are gonna feel that.

You're gonna just spread that out to a whole lot of people.

But if you're vibrating on a high frequency of love and positive energy, there is no way it's going to go wrong.

Even when there's delays, even when things are not going right.

Grateful.

I'm grateful for this delay.

I'm grateful that this person wasn't able to show up.

Yes, I'm hurt, but I'm grateful because God is steering me in the right direction.

I don't know where.

But you're a much better person than I am.

People don't know this.

What?

But I'm very petty.

Oh, my goodness.

I am Petty.

I am.

Oh, I'm very petty.

Did you see your eyes?

Even you were like, you go to cancel on me.

Okay, all right.

Okay, all right.

Okay.

You see that?

It's great.

I need to work on my pettiness.

I'm going to admit I go to be open, honest.

I need to work out my pet school.

Wow.

Look, we were supposed to be sitting here many, like, a long time ago.

Yeah.

But now I'm here as an owner.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, now.

Now I think.

I think this was the right time.

It was the perfect time.

Yeah, yeah, the perfect time.

So.

Yeah, so, geez.

Like, wow.

I would have been like, you cancel on me.

Okay.

All right.

You think you could do this to me?

My time?

I'm putting cases on all.

All of you.

All of.

And then when I become successful.

Yeah.

Guess what I do?

I do.

I do what Steve Harvey did to death to his teacher.

You know what he does to his teacher?

What did he do to teach you?

Like, my pettiness is like, I need to work on that.

Like, y'all.

You pray for me.

Pray for me in my pettiness.

Steve Harvey's a teacher.

Told him you'll never be on tv.

Oh, yes, I remember this one.

And then now that he's made it, every single Thanksgiving, every year, he sends her a big screen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

I would have.

I would have made a note to everyone who canceled.

And the day I'm big, I'm sending them yoga mats.

Yoga mats out every single day that they were there.

That is so hectic.

Oh, my goodness.

Noise.

Oh, man.

Yeah, okay.

No, that's.

That's very good.

Well, I mean, well done.

Well done, well done, well done.

Let's keep that going.

That's good.

So for those people who want to start preparing for, like, a marathon or like, a fitness go for, this is.

Let's just take a marathon.

So it is coming up to oceans is going up.

People want to do comrades.

Someone says, okay, sia, you are a health and wellness coach.

You're a girl boss, owner of Misfit reference.

Now.

You miss and then fit.

You're a misfit.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

She owns misfit now.

She thinks she can do whatever she wants around here.

You know, people say that.

You know, some people say that probably.

It's okay.

I appreciate that.

Doesn't matter.

One of you come with the energy.

Come with the energy.

Yeah, yeah.

And then I'll send you your comments.

So if I want to prepare for a.

I've never done a marathon a day in my life.

Never done a marathon.

What are you going to recommend that I do in terms of the training?

Maybe the yoga, maybe the diet mindset.

What would you say I should do?

So definitely yoga.

Yoga for endurance.

Endurance.

We're definitely going to have to do a lot of, like, yin yoga is a very, like, stretch based yoga.

Tends to the ligaments, your tendons.

It does tend to the muscles.

It also, like, goes deep into the energy centers.

With the yoga, you'll obviously get into a nice, healthy Mindset every single time.

When we have a yoga session, we always have an intention, or I will always encourage the people to think about things that they're grateful for and we take it on.

And I mean, for an hour, if you are being reminded about the things that you're grateful for and a positive intention, you're going to leave there feeling light.

So I'll definitely get into that.

My thing is, because I'm learning a lot more in my industry, is I would definitely refer them to a biokineticist.

If I'm being honest, is that the straight person?

That is the person who will tend to all your things in your body.

Okay.

With regards to your food, you need to eat.

You need to eat.

Don't tell me you're gonna go run a whole marathon and you're not chowing.

No, you need to have your breakfast.

A nice, healthy breakfast.

You need to have your snacks.

Can you go with a healthy breakfast?

You have to.

Can't I have my chocolate and wine for breakfast?

Look, let's balance it out.

I love how she's not saying no.

Yeah, no, no, no.

I don't want to say no, because we're human living in the world that we're living in right now with the influences that we have.

So let's not take it out.

Let's just not have as much.

Oh, okay.

Just taper it down.

Yes, taper it down.

But on your day to day, like, look, after what you're consuming, it has to be healthy.

You have to have your snacks.

You need to have a healthy lunch.

You need to have a healthy snack after lunch.

You need to have a nice, healthy supper.

And depending on what time you're going to sleep, you need to have your snack before you go to bed.

Right?

So if I go to sleep around like eight, nine pm, when should I have a snack?

Well, I'm asking for a friend.

I'm asking for me.

I'm asking for a friend.

So if you're having dinner at five or six, yeah, yeah.

Then 2 hours after that.

But if you're gonna sleep soon after that, then maybe, like, just like, let it not be something with sugar.

Maybe even just a protein would be great.

What if I like my sugar?

If I go to sleep?

No, no, no.

Sorry.

No, no.

Like straight up.

No, no, no.

Ulala Ganjani.

Your body's busy digesting you can't dream nicely, my bro.

How are you dreaming?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It needs.

No, no, no.

The judgment.

The judgment that's going.

It's not even the judgment.

It's just being aware.

You need to be aware of how your body moves also.

This is why.

And like, probably, like, completely out of it.

But life orientation deprived us of things that we need to learn.

What do you mean we need to learn tax.

We need to learn every, like, financial literacy.

We need yoga in life orientation.

Yes, we've got Pe, but that's PE.

Just go kick a ball.

No, no.

Tell me about my body, how it moves.

Yeah, teach me how to breathe.

What is the economy looking like in Saudi?

And in the world, let that not just be in business.

The economy is great, man.

What are you talking about?

What am I talking about?

What are you talking about?

Economy is great.

No, no, no.

Let's be, let's be real.

I love positivity, but, uh, but, yeah.

It'S challenging, but it's, but in that, like, let's, it doesn't have to be positive for us to learn about it to know what's going on in the world.

You know what I mean?

Like, yeah.

I don't think they did enough for life or end.

It's life orientation.

Orientation.

I'm like, guys, like, let it.

I wish they should.

They didn't teach me to not be petty.

They, that's, they, they did me a disservice.

I think also they rushed through the whole thing.

Like, let's, let's, yeah.

I don't know.

It is what it is.

Anyways, we're here now living life.

Yeah.

So, so then, like, what would constitute healthy breakfast lunch at a very basic level.

Okay, so the, my go to is the herbalife products.

I'll have my herbalife shake.

I'll have a Formula one shake with a PDM.

Or I'll have my rebuild strength.

What is PDM now?

PDM is a protein drink mix.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.

Yes.

So two scoops of formula, one shake, and then two scoops of protein drink mix, and I'm good to go.

Some people like to add banana, others will have, like, oats.

But you just need to feed your body with like, a nice vitamin boost.

Yeah, a protein boost.

Something that will fill you up nicely until your next snack in the morning.

Sure.

And then what would that next snack be?

The next snack would be a protein with a carbohydrate.

So let's say an apple with bultong.

An apple with bolton?

Yes.

I thought you was going to say banana nicotine.

I mean.

Okay.

Let'S keep the banana.

Let's keep the.

I caught.

And then the egg from the quarter Maru.

The egg, the quarter.

Bread.

No.

Okay, let's have a couple boiled eggs and banana, right?

Sure.

All right, cool.

Let's.

Let's do that.

That rather.

Hey.

Yes.

The aromat or not?

Okay.

No.

Okay.

So no aromatic, guys.

No aromatic salt.

No salt.

Look, add your.

Just not too much.

The thing is that these are the chats, right?

It has to be balanced.

That's the only.

And what is balanced, if you're taking, I don't know.

Also, like, people eat different.

Like not too much salt.

Yeah, too much aromat.

Aromat is good.

Tastes like it makes a meal.

It slaps.

It slaps so hard.

Yeah, but sukale la I aroma tsingkati going to finish or it's been borrowed.

Maybe it has been borrowed.

Maybe it's about to finish.

Even if it's been borrowed.

Don't overdo it.

This is how you work up a health and wellness coach, by saying ridiculously.

You can already see me tweaking, right?

Cheapers.

What?

Like, honestly, some guy was joking to me and said, I have a balanced meal.

Every time I'm like, I have a McDonald's burger in each hand.

It's a balanced.

It's balanced.

Do you understand?

And I hear him.

I hear him.

It is balanced.

It's not bad.

What are we doing?

No, it's balancing each hand.

Yeah, that's what he means.

But really, is it the.

No, no, no.

Is it the.

And then you'll have another snack, which is a protein and a carbohydrate.

And then your healthy supper.

Dinner meal.

Right.

For me, I'm on a maintenance plan, so I'm not looking to lose weight.

But it's different for everyone.

If you want to lose weight, we recommend two shakes.

I always like to have my clients have their shake for breakfast and then for supper.

Okay.

And then for lunch.

It needs to be a nice meal, you know, green with greens, veggies, protein, vegetables.

Protein.

A carbohydrate, so not a carbon.

Carbohydrates are good.

We need them.

It's energy.

Yeah, but we need carbohydrates.

But just don't have Igor, guys.

I was.

That's exactly where I was going.

I was going to Igor Kota.

Loaf.

K o t r.

It's not quarter k o T.

A cheapest last number.

Jonga have it.

This is what I'll say.

Yeah, you can have your quarter, let's say Monday.

Sure.

And then you'll see it again next week.

Next week?

Yeah.

Don't have it the next.

Uh huh.

Okay.

Don't you remind me of my dietitian.

No.

My dietitian.

I was asking you these exact same questions.

I was like, what about KFC?

I've got a.

I've got a.

I've got a word for that.

I'll tell you offline because I don't want to get cancelled.

Yes.

I'll tell you.

You know that word that starts with a k?

Yes.

Yeah.

I don't want to.

You know that word?

You know that word?

Yeah.

Okay.

Hold that word.

Yes.

That word.

First choice.

That's what.

Oh, my gosh.

And I've heard that one before.

I have.

That's insane.

But on the line, though, I mean, like, have you been here?

But it's not really.

It really isn't.

Okay.

Go to the view and then Bedford view, and then you'll see if it really means that.

You know, the view is a different country on its own.

I believe sometimes with the people that are there, I'm like.

Or maybe even here on Lingsfield drive.

Yeah, that's true.

It's different.

It's not.

It doesn't apply anymore.

It doesn't apply anymore.

No, not as much.

No.

Maybe chicken, Nikki.

Maybe I don't.

Yeah, I know chicken.

I don't know.

Let's be honest.

Let's be real.

Let's be real.

I'm a realist here.

You know what I'm talking?

Okay, cool.

So what do you say to those people who want to get rid of belly fat and get this six pack on?

Because every.

When does summer start?

Now?

Summers.

Well, here in South Africa, it's already started.

Okay, so, like, if you were to pick a month where summer starts, right?

Where would that be?

I would.

I would say October.

October or November.

Because it's November.

December.

January.

Okay.

Okay.

So, right.

Every single year on the 1 January, what's the first thing people say they're going to do?

New Year's resolution.

Yes.

The first one on the list is not change their boyfriend or change their girlfriend or make money cut tops with people that we all know you guys are going to do every single year.

But they say, I'm going to get myself in shape.

I'm going to get that six pack.

And then the gyms are packed.

Not the select clubs.

Of course the gyms are packed.

Thank you.

We don't have to bring all shoes get polished.

My shoes get polished.

My clothes get prayed.

Listen, listen here.

Like, my favorite is the bathrooms, but anyways.

Oh, geez.

Like, the jacuzzis.

Ah, bro, jacuzzis.

But not just one multiple ease.

I can read the latest, uh, business day.

It really is a beautiful.

I can get, like, listen, I get my, my fruit allocation just from there.

Do you understand?

You don't.

Yeah, I love.

And the best thing is, like, I don't have a queue for equipment.

No, I've, I haven't, haven't queued for equipment in a very long time.

Yeah, it feels good.

I took my, my homie who stays with me there, I'm like, let me ruin your life.

Actually, no, because I got him a guest pass.

I'm like, let me ruin your life.

Virgil active.

You guys did the best with this thing.

I get on my guest pass.

Like, come with me.

We went to the Sandton one, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Because they had the Jacuzzi bigger.

That's the only reason.

Jacuzzi is bigger.

So I'm like, yeah, guys take them on a tour.

They went out.

The worker, they worked area outside.

Or if you've been to Alice, then you've been there working area outside the, the treadmills that charge your phone, like, like the hanging yoga thing there.

I think they're discontinuing that, by the way.

They're doing sound baths now.

Um, I think, yeah, they might be adding it because sound bath has been added to most of the va's.

Oh, is it, is it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All of that.

And then, like, we don't, don't have Kawhi.

We've got new.

Hey.

New.

Yes.

Hey.

It's nice.

You press my clothes, you shine my shoes.

Jeffrey's there.

Just like anything pressed.

Yes.

How I don't have to bring tiles.

It's like how much?

I'm like, fine, that's.

I'll do it, I'll do it.

I'll do it.

Guys, if you go to gym more than five times a week, you ought.

To go to the ones, the collections.

Yeah.

So.

So basically they get to the beginning of the year.

They say, I'm going to get my summer body.

I'm going to make this a priority for the first three months.

That's actually too long.

For the first three weeks, everyone is at the gym.

And after that, quiet, quiet.

It's my favorite time.

I'm like, look at the side of silence.

Drop a pen.

I heard it.

So that is one of the biggest, if not the biggest news resolution people want to make is I'm going to lose the weight or I'm going to gain the muscle or whatever the case is.

So what do you say to someone who's trying to get rid of belly fat and trying to get a six pack?

Yeah, I need to get my six pack back because of all that chocolate I was eating.

As I was stressed.

I was stressed.

So I will always say it starts in the kitchen.

Okay, but I was hoping you were.

Not going to say that.

No, but we know this.

It starts in the kitchen.

I want to lie to myself.

No, I want my chakra here to just lock.

Allow me to lie to myself.

Oh, geez.

Like, sure.

But there are many different body types out there, and everyone is going through their own.

Tell us about body types, because I hear a lot about that.

Yeah, well, they've got different shapes.

You've got the apple shape and the pear shape and then the triangle.

Not the triangle under the rectangle shape.

There's just many.

But I don't necessarily want to take a deep dive into that.

But people have got telling me that round is a shape.

Round is definitely a shape.

So, guys, if you are round, you are in shape.

It is a shape, but you work with your shape.

So people have got thyroid issues.

Other people, they've got their own things going on.

It's multiple things.

So there's, again, it's not a one size fits all, but generally.

Generally speaking, yeah.

It will start in the kitchen within your two shakes a day and your nice, colorful meal with your hydration, at least two liters of water on a.

Daily basis, and no quarter there.

But you have a cheat meal.

A cheat meal.

Not a day like this person.

Like, give us.

A cheat meal.

Not a cheat day.

I'm never inviting you again.

What is that?

So many steps back.

You've done.

You've made so much progress.

And then.

Can I have my eye spine?

Can I have eye spine?

No.

Do you think no?

I'm nyabooza.

Balance it out.

You can say no.

You can.

Do you think no?

I don't want to say no because I also have my cheek given.

No?

No.

I'm saying given the goal that has been set.

Yes.

I want to get rid of.

Buy a belly fat.

No, you need to be strict on yourself.

Let's.

Let's get it together.

Okay.

But also, like, it's a mind, but I always say it's a mindset thing.

Does this person really want to do this?

Sure, because we know that there are people.

No, I just want to do it for.

And then it's not a must for them.

It's a shirt.

Yeah.

So you need to catch those ones who are really into it.

Even the ones who are like, okay, you, New year's resolution?

I'm not too sure, but I'm just going to try it out and then Yanni Umtu will just try it out.

There's a difference between trying and doing, right?

Others will do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah, like, I'll try low fat ice cream.

Doesn't work.

But.

But you've tried.

Yeah.

And then we go back to full, full cream.

Milk that ice cream in there.

Yes, do it.

But, and there's.

There's nothing wrong with that.

There's really nothing wrong with that.

But your six pack will start in the kitchen.

Also with the stress hormone cortisol.

You need to balance that out.

How do you manage that stress hormone?

Because people work stressful jobs, live stressful lives.

Yeah.

They support Manchester United.

Shameful guys.

They've been stressed every day.

These are the shots that are being fired.

These are not shots.

I have got good friends that are being abused every day by Manchester United.

Man United.

Please stop.

Please stop.

They must stop.

They must stop.

Are you a manufactant?

It's not your fault.

Are you a man?

You fan?

I don't watch or follow soccer.

Oh, okay.

I'm not that girl.

Okay.

But I've recently taken a deep dive into rugby.

Okay, so this is why you look so great.

You don't support Man United.

Guys wanna look good.

Stop.

Stop following Man United.

There's not no positivity.

The world can save you from that.

There's a guy following a team called Chelsea and they trusted sometimes themselves.

But anyway, yeah, look again, you need, like, you need to balance it out for yourself if you're gonna live stressful lives.

And it's.

Sometimes it's a thing that you need to do because you need to feed yourself, you need to feed the family.

And, you know, but even with that, being able to say no, like, that's a very powerful stress reliever.

Yeah.

And it might even put on stress for some to say no, but to then be comfortable in saying no to things that you actually know you shouldn't be doing because it's going to stress.

You out even more.

And then also knowing that if you're going to do something that's going to stress you out even more, you need to then get into something that's going to help de stress you.

Yeah.

Right.

Exercise is a great way, eating healthy is a great way, yoga is a great way.

Breath work is a great way.

Taking a walk is a great way.

Dancing, man.

You want to go to the club?

You haven't been to the club in the longest time.

I'm your shaver.

Do the burpees version of you.

For real.

But I'm being serious.

People need to do things that they enjoyed.

Go take a coloring book.

Paper pen.

Go draw.

Play FIFA.

Play FIFA.

Yes.

I love doing that.

I love playing FIFA.

Play FIFA.

It really like, because it's you now taking yourself out of that situation.

Yeah, yeah.

You need to find the things that de stress you.

Yeah, yeah.

Have you trained in bodybuilders?

No.

No.

Okay.

And I would love to.

I want the bodybuilders in the yoga studio so bad.

Yeah, so bad.

Just to qualify that she wants to train the bodybuilders and the yoga studios.

Okay, that's, that's what, that's what she meant, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah, yeah.

I want to, I want to flow with them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Get their energy centers.

I feel like they'll pose different.

Like, the muscles will pop different.

Yes.

Like, do you understand?

Like, look, I was gonna get into bodybuilding.

I was.

I wanted to do the bikini.

The bikini modeling.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then I saw the.

The eating habits that you need to get into.

Yeah.

And I was like, okay.

I just had to hear dehydration.

And I was like, I'm out.

I hear you have to dehydrate yourself.

Yes.

And I was like, is that to make your muscles pop?

Yeah.

So that then there's, like, no liquid.

It's just skin and muscle and tendons and ligaments.

Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder.

Right.

I can't even, because it's not me, you know, but, yeah, I want.

I heard the dehydration, and I was like, nah, I'm good.

It's fine.

It's funny.

My dietitian, she had, we used to date someone who was a bodybuilder, so.

Right.

He had too much weight.

Not weight, water in his system.

Right.

He wasn't a dehydrated now.

It's a wild concept.

So before he was supposed to go on stage, like, getting the story correct, he started spitting, bro.

He starts spitting.

Yeah.

You see now?

And he needs to win because he's put in so much work.

Like, I don't blame him.

Like, spit it away.

Yeah.

Wow.

Like, do you want to do that to yourself?

Right.

No, not only you don't.

I can see her eyes, her third eyes open to that.

She doesn't definitely do not want to do that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Would you go into bodybuilding?

I don't think I have the discipline, from an eating perspective to do that.

Okay.

Because it's insane, right?

Madness.

You have to eat, like, eight meals a day.

You have to change twice.

You can't be walking unnecessary, necessarily.

No, no, no.

It's.

Yeah.

Like, like pro body.

I love.

I love watching those guys.

I like the discipline, because when you go to the gym, I love lifting weights.

I just love it.

Right?

So that's why I do the bodybuilding exercise.

Yeah.

I just know the discipline from a diet perspective.

Right.

But the guys like Ronnie Coleman, and you've heard of Roddy Coleman.

Big round.

Yeah, buddy.

Roddy Coleman, Jay Cutler, all these bodybuilders, all of them guys, bigger because she's a house.

He's massive.

Like, I want to actually see these guys in real life.

I'm like, I actually want to.

Like, I actually want to see the biggest bodybuilder in the world and be like, yo, you're massive.

How do you go on a plane being that big?

Right.

So there's natural bodybuilding.

That's something I could do.

But.

But then also, they say, if you are pro bodybuilder, I don't know how true this is, is that you have to be on roids or the juice or the gear if you're a pill, apparently.

But there's, there's people who guide you to do it properly.

You know, granted, granted, people guide you to it properly.

So the exercise is 100% the, the dieting discipline.

I actually want to see how far I can, and.

You can have it after the comp.

If you're going to enter competition, you can have it after.

Yeah, but, like, you know how nice it is, though.

I do.

I was afraid you just say, no, I don't.

I do.

Aha.

Uh huh.

Yeah, you do.

I do.

I get.

Okay, all right.

Like, yes.

That double quarter powder with cheese.

Oh, my goodness.

Remember when they had the spicy one?

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

The only reason I like the double quarter powdered cheese is because you've got something they call pub.

I got it from pulp fortune.

Royal cheese.

I'm like, what's a royal cheese?

Double quota.

Fine.

I'm like, that's my burger from now on.

Yes, that's my burger from now on.

So.

So the day will come.

Like, I owe myself an explanation, and I owe a lot of people explanation.

I need to be on the COVID of a fitness magazine.

Do it.

So I need to do that.

I do.

That I don't know.

Yeah.

I don't know how I need to pay to do that.

First have to look the part, then you have to pay.

But also, do you see yourself on the magazine?

Yeah.

Okay.

Definitely.

Do you?

Yeah.

And can you feel everyone seeing and flipping through that magazine, or.

I need to do that practice now.

Yeah, do that practice.

Do it.

Like, enjoy just feeling and watching people look at you.

Yes.

On the magazine and being like, look at this.

Yeah.

Look at this guy.

Yeah.

Do you understand?

You don't go there.

You don't understand.

These are goals, you know?

Definitely.

Yeah.

So the back workouts.

I love back workouts.

Like.

Right.

My back never fails me.

It doesn't.

Leg day, guys.

Your leg day is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because if you don't do leg day, you're not a proper gym, bro.

Amen.

Young Johnny Bravo.

Chicken legs.

Chicken legs.

No way.

Yeah.

So.

All right, so at the point where you can ask me questions that you would like to ask and things that you'd like to know that I can hopefully answer.

Okay.

When you started doing your podcasts.

Yes.

The NJ podcast.

We're in over 25 countries, over 17,000 subscribers, lots of downloads.

One of my biggest audiences.

Hey, you have to monetize that first.

One of my biggest audiences is in India.

Oh, the US.

Yes.

And I laughed at this one.

Nigeria.

Nigeria.

Yes.

Yes.

But that's powerful when you.

Yeah.

Shout out.

Shout out.

Yeah.

Do you see yourself now expanding and then how soon would you like the expansion to happen?

Good question.

I definitely see myself expanding.

So I know you asked me, off the record, how I started, so I love speaking to people.

Well, you know this.

And I started with just my laptop, speaking to people on my laptop.

Right.

I didn't know podcasting was a thing.

So after my second book in 2019, I was like, because that one is called you are a business.

So I was trying to improve the vision that I have for myself to expand my game, as Doctor DeMartini would say.

Then I said, let me start a podcast, because I was advised to start one.

One of my coaches said, have one.

Just have someone on.

Just use your phone.

Just talk.

Right.

Then I started 2019.

Recorded my first guest in February and the second guest in actually in the same month.

And then the best time of all time happened.

Covid happened, and I had to figure my life out.

Right.

I'm glad because it moved people to remote work, and I love that right now.

That was.

That was a gift.

That was a gift that keeps on giving.

Then I was like, you know, what?

I've got the time.

I've got money because I'm not going out anymore.

I'm not partying anymore.

I was too depressed to have a mug order.

You know, I couldn't go to the gym.

I wanted to kill myself.

Couldn't go to the gym.

There was no.

I was not allowed to drink alcohol.

So that that stopped.

So now I've got all this surplus money.

I'm not driving places I need to go.

Then I was like, sure, I've got access, money, let me get the first rounds of equipment.

And I was like, hey, do you want to be on.

Hey, do you want to be on the.

And people love talking, so you would know.

So then that's how it started growing.

That's how it started growing.

And then I think what made me be like, okay, I'm really going to go after office 100% is one.

People were dying left, right, and said, I'm like, I can't be.

I won't be alive forever, so I might as well do it.

And then I watched one of my, one of the people that were big in the podcasting game.

We've got this man.

I don't know if you know him, Joe Rogan.

Like, he signed a hundred million dollar deal with Spotify.

I was like, this is.

This thing is possible even if I just get, like, a 10% Spotify, just.

But other than that, when I actually went into it, I started becoming so fulfilling to actually do it.

Then I did, like, 20 guests in the space of, like, two, three months with the week that we launched, which was quite.

This was.

This was wild.

Listen to the story.

I did, like, an ad campaign, ran the ads, and then for about a week.

It's not a long, long time, but I'll take it for about a week.

This podcast was number eight in the country in self improvement category.

I'm like, oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

Look at me, look at me, look at me.

But one of the things that I found was quite interesting is that all those above in the self improvement category, that's the only category I wanted to do, is all of them were american based podcasts that were being listened to in South Africa.

So I'm like, that's dope.

Yes.

I'm like, that's dope, right?

But then that means we need most african creators in a certain niche.

So, yeah, so that's where it started.

And then started doing international guests.

I've.

She's like, people, like, started doing motivational speakers.

I did.

People speak in church.

One guy, one lady who was a victim of.

Who's basically.

Basically a victim of a predator in church.

So I'm like, yeah, I need to get that.

Yeah.

And when you go to church, you're supposed to feel safe, right?

Not her, not her, not her.

So she was taking advantage of bypass.

Her name is Sandy Kirkham.

It's on.

And then one of the most interesting guests I did was the person who started Comedy central, Mister Art Bell.

He told me about all these comedians.

He told me about Eddie Murphy, told me about Dave Chappelle.

He told me about Kevin Hart, how he started the entire thing.

It was like, it was actually wild.

Mister Ott Bell, that was.

That was quite great.

And then I took a break for a bit, and then I started doing like, something daily.

Like, I'll do motivational Mondays, transformational Tuesdays, wisdom words Wednesdays.

I did thriving project management Thursdays because that's a field compassionate about five point Fridays, significant lessons Saturdays, and spiritual development Sunday.

Yeah, yeah.

So then that was, that was.

That was really tough because now you need to plan all this content.

You need.

You shoot it, do the audio.

That was really tough as well.

Like, I almost burnt out a bit.

So I just took a break on my game.

Just do one every other month.

But then now I have a podcast network where I've got this.

This show.

I've got one that, sisters house music.

I've got one that talks about spiritual development and the bible.

Then there's one, one of my friends here, he finished his fifth episode last week.

He's doing a 6th one this week.

And people quit after the fourth one.

Right?

The drop off was like 90% off the fourth one.

So if you.

So, like, so basically, if you get you to the fifth one, you're, you're.

You're an elite company.

All because consistency is important.

Like, it's like, yo, that's not a one stop shop.

And then, you know, I mean, um, so the next thing is that I've got a whole backlog of guests I need to get on.

There's a lot of them.

And then from an international perspective, there's a lot of people internationally to speak to as well.

My dream guest, if I can get this one guy on, I don't know what to do with myself.

Hey.

See, I just wouldn't know.

Hey, I wouldn't know.

I wouldn't know.

I wouldn't know if I could get Trevor Noah on, I'd die.

Like, I die.

Yeah.

Elon Musk would be great.

Jeff Bezos is nice.

Kevin Hart would be amazing.

Hey, Dave Chappelle.

Hey.

Hey, Dave.

Hey, Dave.

Hey, Dave Chappelle would be great.

He'd be nice, but, like Trevor, I just wouldn't know how I'd handle myself, and.

Yeah.

And I think I should just shoot and get him on, but, you know.

Look, I will say, just from the bobs.

The bobs.

Yeah.

And what I see around me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me.

Yeah, yeah, that's happening.

It's happening.

It's happening.

Oh, my God.

I.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, for real.

No, I think.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's.

Keep putting it out there in the universe.

Yeah.

So the expansion is.

I mean, so the mission statement from a relational wellness perspective for me was, you have this holistic wellness that I believe in.

I was a wellness leader.

Rhodes.

You know, those.

Those.

Those oaks.

Yeah, I was one of those oaks.

Yeah.

Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up.

So there's the financial.

There's a spiritual, there's a physical.

Then there's the intellectual.

Then there's relational, then there's emotional.

So, from a relational perspective, my mission statement is to have the best and brightest minds on my speed dial.

That means you're speaking to them consistently.

And if you're speaking to those people consistently, you become the people you speak to.

So that's.

That's what it is.

So all the greatest people in the world that are alive and still to be born, I just want to sit down and just chat with them.

That's.

That's.

That's the mission statement behind the podcast.

That's why you see me doing this consistently as I am.

Yeah, yeah.

You're definitely becoming a better person.

Yes, yes, definitely.

I'm a much better person.

Yeah.

There's some crazy people out there, man.

A lot of crazy people out there.

And we appreciate them.

They show us that we're not so crazy.

No, the shout out seems there, especially the closest.

They are.

You see your face.

If you can see your own face, you're proving my point.

You're making my point.

Imagine being told that you're crazy, and then I must be like, you're making my point.

Own it.

Own it.

No.

Stereotype.

It's a stereotype.

It's literally a stereotype.

It's, hey, khasa woman, apparently.

Hey, yay.

I'm a mixture.

You're a mixture.

Yeah.

What's the mixture?

Zulu and xhosa.

My mom is closer.

My dad is Zulu.

Okay.

No, no, sharp.

You're not closer than I, so I'm closer, but I.

My bro.

Hey, hey, hey.

I'm skiffing you from.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

It's not me who say, hey, listen, it's not me who said it's there.

It's the people.

It's the people.

It's the people out there who are saying the cousin are crazy.

No, there are a lot of stereotypes out there.

Zulu, Zulu people are violent but they're like.

Like, they're violent but soft.

Um, who's that doll that was also a doll?

Wasn't chucky a doll?

Wasn't chucky a doll?

Okay, I'm trolling.

I'm trolling.

I'm trying.

There are no stereotypes of that like Zulu man or violent.

I mean, that's definitely can't be true.

Zulu women are subservient.

Well, no, tosamen Elias.

Apparently, apparently a.

I think maybe you should stop.

I'm just, I'm a a.

These are stereotypes that I don't believe.

That I don't believe, by the way.

Really?

No, I don't believe them.

Yeah.

Come on.

Okay.

No, I don't believe that.

You're definitely not crazy.

You are, um, you're enlightened.

You're, you, you are enlightened 100%.

100%.

And I'm sweaty, also known as lies as well.

So really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'll throw chakra.

No, those are just stereotypes that I, that I don't believe.

But it's just what I just what I've heard.

Yeah.

If you speak, we've spoken to as many people as I have on the podcast.

They always come out.

They always, I guess people have a lot of biases out there and I.

Can'T, I can't fight you with that one.

Yeah.

Because there's not, hey, hey, it's not me saying hey, it's the people's out there.

All right, give me another question.

Another question.

Okay, so we know about this expansion.

Yeah.

What made, like, when was it the day that clicked to you that actually, I just, I want to be a better person.

Like what happened?

A better person.

I think it was 2009.

I was like 1718.

Yeah.

I think it got to the point where I was watching people around me, my peers in high school around me.

And I'm like beginning all these, these better marks.

Yeah, they're doing all these amazing things.

They're flying to London for holidays.

You know, I didn't even go to the view.

I go to woods with my grandmother.

And I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

And then I just watched the world around me and people achieving great things and just making the most of themselves from what I saw.

And I'm like, why can't I be like that?

And why are certain people this way and some people are not?

Were you doing, like, the bare minimum?

No, I wasn't.

Were you really trying?

I think at that time, I believed I was trying.

Okay?

But then, retrospectively knowing what that moment did for me, I started trying harder.

But then I.

As a result, I was prone to a lot of anxiety because I'm always trying to achieve all these things.

And then I was like, you know what?

And also I was like, I think I want to be a genius.

You know, I want to be a genius.

I want to be known as a genius.

Yeah.

So then that clicked for me, and then I was like, I got to start finding the answers.

And as I go, like, Wikipedia, how to be organized.

And I actually asked my dad to borrow his credit card so I can.

By some guy.

It's called, like, the guy to genius intelligence.

I still have that to this day.

And then I was like, I need to find the answers and whatnot.

But little did I know that.

I think that moment hit me was, like, 17.

But then there was a moment before that.

I was, like, 1415 entering grade eight.

And I wrote down five things that I want to achieve in this five years.

So one, I want a white blazer.

What that means.

Yeah.

What that means is that you.

It's like, the highest form of achievement in a certain discipline.

It could be cultural activities, your public speaking, debating and drama.

Then there's academics where you have to be, like, super smart.

I didn't get that, of course.

No, no, no, no.

Those are for the.

Those a.

You know, hey, we had Brenner, we had label, we had Shannon, we had Brendan Wall carrier.

We had all offense.

It was inspiring to have them up there.

Yeah.

I was like, yeah, like, you know, do it for me.

Like, I know what you're doing, but, like, do it for me.

Yeah.

And then there's one.

There was one for community service, there was one for sports and all that stuff.

So I wrote down I wanted to have white blazer, because at that school, St.

Dunstan's, no one.

No black person had ever done it in 92 years.

No black person.

No black person.

Mandela left prison.

No, listen.

Mandela was born, went to prison, left, came out, became the president of this country, retired, and was four years away from.

And no one had no black person.

They were indian guy.

Do get one for the academic.

Okay, so I'm like, yes.

At least someone who's not.

Who's not of the light of persuasion.

You say, hey.

She said, not me.

Hey, hey, hey.

Not someone of the.

Not someone who's fair skinned.

Yes, yes, yes.

Fair skinned.

Is this really.

Yeah, you've got to be pele.

So the Caucasians, we were getting them right?

And then the Asians were getting them like, yeah, yeah.

They were just genuinely smarter.

Yeah.

That's some of the things that got caught me.

And I said, I want to get top of my class on something.

I'm like, can I get to my class on something?

So I think those were some of the three things I wrote down.

There were five.

I want to fly high into university, right?

Yes.

So that was me, grade seven going into grade eight.

So then it clicked again for me.

And when I say it, I'm like, okay, I need to put on more effort.

So then I worked, I worked, I worked.

And then 2009 was a landmark year for me because that, that's what I realized, that what you put your mind towards and you're passionate about something, there mustn't be something you're not passionate about because you can achieve something that you're not passionate about.

And then now you're like, is this all there is?

Right?

So then in that year, so I was a.

They could have called them prefix.

Now I was head of house.

I was the only black person there.

Like, guys, would you do better?

Let's.

And then I was also head of drama.

And all this because I loved it.

There's nothing drama debilitated into public speaking conversations.

I was that guy.

That guy.

Drama is amazing.

Yeah, it's amazing.

No, no.

The actual discipline, the actual subject, but not the state of being.

No, no.

Yeah, not the state of being.

Yeah, no, I hear you.

No, not that drama that you get if you do.

We date on my psychopath.

Oh, no, of course.

Oh, God.

No, that's not.

Oh, geez.

Oh, wow.

It's a story for another day.

But wow.

Anyway, so, so what happened in.

So that year, 2009.

So you hear me crying, laughing.

So what happened 2009?

I think it was March.

I, like, I did everything that I could.

There was one public speaking contest I placed second in, but the year I was joined first when that happened, ah.

Like, I was so deflated, I'd given up.

I'm like, ah, you know, Jesus.

Okay, I guess it's not gonna happen.

And then I think was like the 1 March, 1st, 2nd, 3 March, sitting in assembly.

And then misses Wallacer.

Yes, yes, misses Wallace.

You that english teacher?

Everyone's afraid of him.

This is what I so gets.

Up.

And then she's like, reading awards.

And then she's like.

Then she.

There's one guy, Brendan Ward.

He was my good friend of mine, right?

Um, so he had gotten white blazer in academics, community service and cultural.

Oh, my good.

Like, this guy.

Community service?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

Just like, so what?

I.

So then I'm just chilling there.

I'm like.

And then it's like, right, so now we're going to read out the citation for honors.

For cultural honors.

And then I'm like, then she used to read my name out.

I was like, oh, shit.

She read out the entire citation.

I'm just chilling there, like, I don't know if you can fucking explain this, but I felt like the heavens opened up.

Yes.

And I just.

You know, when you've got that sense of peace, you're like, yes.

But you're also, like, proud of yourself, but not like, yeah, ying lo.

It's like, I was like, actually read out everything I'd done.

So from grade eight, I've been my steadfast.

The public speaking, the drama and everything, all of that.

And I was like, ah.

And then I got up and she's like, please don't.

She's like.

And then she's like.

She read out the citation for, like, a minute, minute and a half.

It was the longest minute, minute, half where I just felt like, euphoria.

You know what I mean?

Like, damn, this is me, guys.

I'm like, yeah, yum.

No.

Yeah, yum.

No.

Yeah.

So then I got up and I was walking, and she's like, please don't do any of your Michael Jackson stuff.

No.

Oh, wow.

Just walk, get your certificate and go back.

So I got that.

I was like.

I was ecstatic.

I got.

When I got back.

And then one of my.

The teachers, Mister Kuroswami, came up and said, hey, he's the first black person to do this.

Oh, my God.

Ever.

In 92 years.

Mandela was born, went to prison, left was the president, retired, and no black person ever done that.

Who did you spend most of your time with?

Brendan Ward.

The guy that got honest for three years.

I spent most of my time there.

Yeah.

So I.

They were like, oh, look at this coconut.

I'm like, hey, it's fine.

I've got a goal.

I've got a goal to reach here.

No.

Shout out to you.

For real?

Yeah, yeah.

Because you.

You definitely.

I picked my spot.

I picked the person that I wanted to be like, yeah.

And not in terms of color and not in terms of.

But in terms of what they were achieving or they were achieving.

So listen, like, it was.

Sometimes I was like, you better not go there.

And then I was like, okay, fine, I'll listen to you.

It's like, okay, you better study like this or work like this.

And that's why the influences in your life are very, very, very important.

That's why listening to podcasts like this or doing podcasts like this is very important.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I wouldn't have a person who's currently a serial killer on the show.

I just.

Because I don't want to be a serial killer.

You know what I mean?

Maybe someone who was and has now converted and can tell me the story about the redemption.

Yes.

But not current.

No, no, no.

Yeah.

Because success exists in many.

Yeah.

You can be a successful murderer.

You.

You could be cuff daddy, right?

Yeah.

But you can't.

You can be cuff daddy.

You could be Jeffrey.

Donald.

Jeffrey who's not Epstein, the guy who's a mirror.

Yeah.

And Ted Bundy.

No, no, it exists.

It's real.

The people who are highly, highly successful, and they highly psychotic.

And you see it all every now.

You need to pick your level.

You what?

You need to be successful.

I don't think you can be success.

This is just me.

I don't think you can be successful in something that fundamentally harms the entire human race.

Yeah.

For example, if I say I want to be most successful wife beater in the world, imagine.

Imagine you can.

You.

You're successful in what you set your goal, because once you have a goal and you're reaching towards that, I think you are successful.

Yeah.

But is it going to be to the betterment of the entire world?

Yeah.

Is going to be the betterment of the entire society.

That's hectic.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I chose him to.

To.

To listen to.

And then.

So then, so I got that, I went back and I called my dad, who's now pastor, like, yo, dad, yo, listen, I just got a white blazer, man, that my relationship I had with my dad was one of.

Every time I achieved something, I call him up, right?

So I called him like, he was like, hey, Barack Obama.

Because Obama was.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

I was like, yeah, he's.

And then he's like, I am impressed.

100%.

3 seconds silent.

I am very, very impressed.

All right, so what are you gonna do now?

I'm like, I'm gonna go sleep.

That's what I'm gonna do.

Because what else am I gonna do with all that excitement?

No.

Yeah.

So then that's amazing.

Yeah.

He took me to.

I still have the white basil now.

I still keep.

Yeah, why would you not?

Yeah, I still keep.

I actually like.

You see the wall of there?

I just picked out a spot and put it there.

So, like, when.

When things are going really bad, I'm like, yo, concha.

That happened.

Yeah.

So is really bad.

Yeah, yeah.

And then that same year, this is why setting intentions and goals are very important.

I remember, I remember I said I wanted to fly high into university.

So again, for the first 92 year history, black people were not doing a lot right.

We're doing well because we had hit boys and head girls and, you know.

But then the principal for the Angus Patterson, he wanted to give out for the first time a leader of the year award for, like, recognizing leadership and excellence.

Right?

So again, it was the 1 October, remember, still to this day, I was there.

My brother was there.

My dad was there.

Well, my dad walked in when they were.

When they were announcing who was the leader of the year.

Right?

So I'm just chilling there again, Mister Wallace, you know, the english teacher, everyone's friend gets up and then says, okay, so listen, so we're giving this award to the leader that's just done a lot of good things and it's done very well.

This was a unanimous decision.

And then, and then my sister was right next to me.

Like, who they talking about?

Me?

I don't know.

Me.

I'm just here to do my duties.

Ah.

Then they call me up.

I'm like, hey.

I was like, yes, yes, yes.

I woke up in my white plays up.

By the way, this is how things come.

360 in my white plays.

I woke up and I get.

It's like this massive trophy.

I need to have that recreated because they kept it.

So I want to recreate.

Yeah, it's massive trophy.

I'm like, and it's glass, it's crystal.

So I don't want to break it in.

People are giving me standing ovation.

Yeah, because.

Well deserved.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Again, 92 here.

History of the school.

First person gift.

Happened to be a black person.

I love it.

And all that that came from.

And I don't want to say to impress you, but it's.

It's a principle that I've seen work time and time again for a lot of people.

And again, it has to be something that you believe is going to serve the greater good and it's going to serve a lot of great people.

So sat down, wrote out that intention and then start surrounding myself with people and then I had awakening moment to say, people are achieving all these things, why can't I do it?

And that's the same for pretty much everybody else.

Yeah.

So that was a changing moment.

So then that's the.

I think that was the, like, my high school years were very formative in terms of how I think now.

Yeah.

And then that carried me through on how I operated in university as well, because pretty much almost exactly the similar result.

Investor grows 100, subordinating twice, dean of students, leadership, toastmasters, presidents, honors degree with distinction, all of that stuff.

Yeah.

This is how we knew you also like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We knew you like this, dimlo.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Yeah.

And it's.

And I don't if they believe that I'm that special, maybe I am, but it's because I set out the intention and I surrounded myself with the people who were going to help me.

Yes.

And I really believed in what I was doing, and I still believe in what I'm doing now.

Yeah.

How do you.

How do you handle the haters?

I'm a hater.

Yes.

You love her.

So the hate.

Remember how petty I am?

So.

And I was gonna ask, like, I remember you saying that you were petty.

But, like, I keep a list.

I keep a list.

I keep a list not.

Not to be evil or mean, spiritual or whatnot.

Because if you become successful in something, you can be complacent.

Yeah.

I'm sure you know this as well.

I mean, like, I think when you.

When you became the owner of misfit.

Yeah.

I'm sure you're grateful, but then I'm sure for, like, even if it's like a second or 10 seconds, you're like, I can relax now.

Maybe that feeling was there for a bit.

Just for a little bit.

Just for.

Yeah, no, I'm sure.

But I'm saying that you.

Not that you're doing it, but I'm sure that feeling.

Yeah, okay, I just arrived.

I just arrived.

Now I've arrived.

But then when you've got a list of haters and people said, you wouldn't do this, you can't do this, who do you think you are?

Like, I don't know why people ask you, who do you think you are?

Why do you think you asking that question?

I don't know.

Maybe.

Maybe someone will tell me.

So the haters, I think it's this way.

And I've been a hater myself.

I actually.

I am a hater right now.

Manchester United.

I'm joking.

Joking.

Also, people.

No, no, I'm really so I think when people are hating on you, they're not.

And I had to reflect on myself, why am I being a hater to this guy and this guy and this guy?

Why am I being a hater?

I think the hate is coming from, one, not appreciating how just how much work it takes to get certain things, and two, not understanding the other person's story.

Because Osiya owning misfit doesn't mean that she's better than me.

It means that she knows something that I don't.

And if I can find out what she knows and understand how she did it, then I can do it for myself.

But not taking away her misfit, I can start my own misfit, and maybe we can collaborate.

And so, haters, the hating mentality is some people just don't like you.

Just because they don't like you, it doesn't mean that they hate you.

Just don't like you.

Like, you know, look at the guy with the small ears.

They just don't like.

They just don't like you.

And it's okay.

Some people, they hate not you, but they hate maybe something that you represent, or this is what I found.

You are highlighting their inadequacies and how inadequate they feel about themselves.

And then rather than dealing with your inadequacies, dealing with your shortcomings, you want to take that and project it outwards to somebody else because that somehow makes you feel better about yourself.

So if I can hate song, hate somebody else, or hate on somebody else and pray for their downfall, then that makes me feel a lot better.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, that's.

So in terms of dealing with the haters, treat them with love and compassion, because I really identify with what it is that's happening.

And your haters are not people who are far from you.

There's sometimes they're closer to you because the people who troll you on social media, they don't hate you.

They're just doing it for views and for vibes they don't know.

Like, you can't hate some.

Something you don't know.

Yeah, like, you know, I can't.

I actually have no right to hate you because I don't know you that well.

Yeah.

So, like, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

So if you can't.

So that's how you deal with the haters.

I see it at work every single day.

Like you do something.

Like you actually do your job.

By the way, let's say you're doing your job.

You're doing your job very well.

If you do a job very well, you get recognized for it.

Yeah.

If you recognize for your job, if people are going to hate it, like, why is it being recognized for the work that they're doing, whether it be a promotion, bonus, increase, more business, whatever the case is, then they start hating you for that.

What they're saying is that they don't hate you for that.

They just upset.

That's not them.

Yeah.

And they don't want to do the work to get there.

Whereas people who are appreciative and become inspired, they're like, sia, how did you do it?

I'd like to learn how you did.

This is inspiring.

This is great.

So with the haters, it's like I had to learn the hard way that you can't do anything about it.

Yeah.

I can't guess.

I can't teach someone to act right.

I can't even get myself to act right.

It's a thing.

So that's how you deal with it.

And then.

And then I used to be naive because in high school and in varsity in my early working career, I was like, why do these people not like me?

Why?

I just wanted to be light.

I just wanted to be light.

And then I just got tired.

I'm tired, bro.

Yeah.

I'm literally tired.

And other people need to get to the point where they're tired.

I don't know.

Reverend Ike.

No.