Hey, it's David. Welcome back to A Changed Mind, a sanctuary for your spirit, a place where each and every episode I will remind you of the certainty of the goodness of the future. I am your friend, your host, your guide, David Baer, and man, I was shocked at the response that I got from the video and the podcast episode that I posted where I shared my conversations with Bobby Kennedy Jr. after having a private dinner with him in Austin, Texas. I got to spend two and a half hours talking to RFK about his policies, getting to know an individual as best as you can in two and a half hours, getting to know him personally, and hearing him field questions from other influencers who I had invited to a very intimate 30-person dinner that was designed to give Bobby a platform to talk to other platform owners, people with communities, people who have audiences just like you. But it was an amazing experience. What I did not expect was how many subscribers I would lose on YouTube and the negative comments that would actually show up on the video. So I want to unpack what I think is going on in America today. Maybe it's going on in the world, but my experience is mostly in America in terms of our political divide, in terms of the way that we communicate with each other, because I think it is a pretty dramatic drift away from what the founders intended in terms of having a healthy debate, having conversations about topics and issues, respecting as human beings candidates, respecting as human beings every citizen, and not judging them by how they're going to vote. Now I don't know, I wasn't around in 1776, but I also sort of lean on the spiritual or religious traditions, and an easy way to sum that up is like, what would Jesus do? So it seems like a lot of people are not doing the WWJD approach to politics, and I think that's part of the problem. So let me share for a moment where I am in this conversation before I talk to you about what I believe is happening and why I lost subscribers and how that's a small example of a greater problem that is a tremendous threat to democracy in the United States today. My experience was back in 2008, I was enrolled into Hope and Change with Obama. It was the first time I became politically active. So I was born, my life started out coming out of, I ain't a bear, no this isn't like my childhood story, but I was born in 1775, so when 9-11 hit I was around 25 years old, and I started paying attention to world affairs and politics, and at that time we kind of had the Bush-Clinton era. We had Daddy Bush, and then we had Clinton, and then we had Baby Bush, and then we moved on to Obama. And I remember in my early 20s just sort of feeling secure with our political structure, with having a president. It seemed like both Bushes, the first Bush knew what he was doing, the Clintons seemed to know what he was doing. The second Bush kind of came off as an idiot, and then Obama shows up. By the way, I don't know if the second Bush was an idiot or not, because there's now, I'm realizing there's only a filter of a certain set of information that we have access to through the mainstream media, and at that point in time there was no independent media. Because if RFK Jr. had been around in the early 2000s as a prominent political figure, I'm sure they would have just portrayed him as a wacky conspiracy theorist lunatic. So I'm saying this was my perception, I'm not saying Bush Jr. is an idiot. Dan Quayle seemed like an idiot, but I don't know that either. So Obama comes on with hope and change, and he's talking about, basically he was the first person that started talking about draining the swamp, and he was going to drain the financial swamp. Remember in 2008, 2009 was the financial crisis, and literally overnight Congress gave $700 billion to the banks of our money to solve the problem that the banks knew that they were creating. And there was all kinds of collusion taking place, where the regulatory agencies were actually stacked with the same people who were industry insiders. And this goes on today, this is a big part of the problem, and Kennedy talks about this as corporate capture. And I was excited because Obama said, I'm going to come in and get all these people out. And Obama came in and he led the swamp creatures into the swamp. I mean, he put Tim Geithner, who at that time I believe was the head of the Federal Reserve, in charge of our treasury. That's crazy. So the treasury borrows money from the Federal Reserve, and you're going to put the guy who was in charge of the lender to the bank of the United States, now in charge of the bank? I mean, that's insane. But we're starting to see that this insanity is a structure. And so I watched Obama not do the things that he said he was going to do, and also enact an extraordinary military conflict and death toll around the world. I mean, I don't know how else you say it, right? With all the wars that Obama got involved with. He set up the Ukrainian war, the war in Syria, what's known as the American war in Syria that none of us are aware of. And then Trump takes over. So I look at Trump and I go, it's nice, it's an alternative. He has some awareness of the deep state, but I don't think he's intelligent enough to be able to see the architecture of the swamp. I think RFK is, as a lawyer, critical thinker, incredible historian. I understand why people like Trump because he, let's call it, speaks his mind. But Trump doesn't represent for me the values that I hold dear. Trump is not, in my mind, a loving human being. Trump doesn't treat people with respect. When I listen to Trump's conversations, he seems like he has a hard time holding a single thought, right? It'll go from, well, people have told me that the border is a crisis, but there are lots of crises in the world. There's a crisis in China. The Chinese have been manufacturing a lot of things, and the things that they manufacture, they sell for cheap here, and things are cheap, lots of cheap. Real estate is cheap. You can buy real estate cheap right now. It's the best time in America to actually grow wealth and grow investment, right? You can make more money than ever before, and that's what I'm going to do to bring back America to making more money. It's like, wait a minute, we were talking about the border a second ago. That's my experience of Trump. And I listen to other people who seem highly intelligent, like Patrick Bet-David, for example, is one who comes to mind with his show, Valuetainment, and they don't really take RFK Jr. as a serious candidate. A lot of platforms don't, and they're pro-Trump, and I can't figure it out other than this incredible distaste for the progressive left represented by Biden. So if you want to be a Trump fan, be a Trump fan. Like if you want to vote for Trump, come over to my house, right? I'll have you here. I don't look at my friends based on if they want to vote for Trump or they want to vote for Biden. Now, if you're a racist, I'm probably not going to have you over to my house, and I'm not saying all Trump followers are racists, but being in a family that is of mixed origin, my wife's side of the family is Colombian, we were in Sarasota, Florida when there was a Trump rally, and I watched a Trump follower in his early 40s, super drunk, shove and push over what must have been an 80-year-old woman who was standing on the side of the street. I've heard and seen massive groups of Trump followers who were anti-minority because of the way that Trump articulates the immigration crisis, and I've seen how my family members are afraid of a lot of Trump's rhetoric and what it inspires in other people. Because there's an anger frequency in it. It's a populist frequency. It's a fear frequency, right? To be clear, I'm just calling Trump for what I see Trump, and someone can be a Trump follower, and as long as they're a good human being, I love them, I'm with you, I mean, I try to love everybody, but I'm saying I'll spend time with you. I'm not making my decisions about who I follow or who I spend time with based on who people vote for. I published one video on RFK Jr., I have something like, I don't know, it's close to 20,000 subscribers on this channel, and 1,000 people stopped watching this channel because I had dinner with RFK Jr. to hear what he had to say, and I shared my thoughts around it. To me, that's a problem. We should be able to talk about our views, and I'm sharing some of mine with you, around politics, around the world, around issues, around individuals who are running for office. I don't think Trump has the level of intelligence to deal with the extraordinary complexity of corporate capture and the existential issues that exist today in the environment with $33 trillion of debt, the chronic health problems in the United States. I don't think he's capable of doing it. He hasn't shown me when he brought in his team before that he could do it. In fact, we accumulated even more debt, I think it was like another $8 to $12 trillion under Trump. You can't do that. You can't run a business that way. I don't actually think Trump was a great businessman, I think Trump is a phenomenal marketer. I think Trump comes with a high level of certainty, and people when they're afraid, people when the world seems chaotic and conflicted, they want certainty in their leader, and he's phenomenal at that. I'm not saying he's a bad person, right? Even though he was caught on tape talking about grabbing women by the P. Okay, I mean, I've said some stupid stuff when I was younger too, so I'm not trying to generalize anything around Trump, but I don't see him as capable of dealing with the issues that are here today in the United States and abroad. Then you've got Biden, and I don't know about Biden. Everything I watch with Biden is not substantive. It's not giving me real policy issues. It's not telling me how things are going to be handled. We're now finding that some, if not a lot of his interviews have been scripted. He's giving very few interviews. You can't have a conversation with Biden. It seems like he's struggling mentally, but I don't have the full picture. If it were my dad, and what's being represented in how he's showing up in the media is actually accurate to who he is and who he's being, which I kind of lean towards it is because the legacy media is obviously not supportive of Trump. They're obviously not supportive of RFK Jr., and so they're supportive of Biden, and it still doesn't look good, then that's problematic. If he were my dad, I'd be like, dad, we got to step down. You can't run the country. My sense is, although this is just a sense, because America has been captured by powerful interest groups, that it's actually perfect that Biden is fairly incapable, because now you've just got a figurehead that doesn't have his full cognitive capacity around him, and that allows the puppet masters full control. By the way, when I talk about this, make no mistake, I told you at the beginning of this episode, I believe in the certainty of the goodness of the future. None of this is to be afraid of. It's an observation. It's like, we're Jane Goodall going into the jungle, and we're evaluating, how does this society operate, and how are people interacting around this? Unfortunately, we're not able to have conversations with other people without it becoming like personal ad hominem attacks. I'm happy to discuss Biden's policies. I'm happy to discuss whether Biden's capable. I'm happy to talk about the person of Biden with someone who supports Biden, and I'd love to explore it. Same thing with Trump, same thing with RFK. I happened to go and host a dinner for RFK Jr., because it wasn't easy to hear what he had to say through traditional media. He did the independent media route, and he piqued my interest. Trump doesn't pique my interest. Now, if I had an opportunity, and you told me I could sit across from Trump for two and a half hours, hell yeah, I'd do it. If you said I could sit across from Biden for two and a half hours, hell yeah, I'd do it. Was I as motivated and inspired to bring together 30 influencers in my network to do that for one of those other two candidates? No, not based on what I've heard, but the issues that RFK was talking about, I was like, wow, these are the most important things we should be talking about, and he's actually got plans and strategies, policies for implementing these things. I want to understand what he's talking about. But some people were upset, and so they unsubscribed from my channel. I think that that's indicative of, unfortunately, the way that we're treating politics, which is like sports teams. It's actually worse than sports teams, because usually it's like, if you're a Mets fan, you're not going to not be friends with a Yankee fan. That's not how we make our decisions. Some Mets and Yankees fans might do that. I was a Lakers, Showtime, 80s, 90s, all the way up until the Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, failure to beat the Spurs in the finals, and I gave up on basketball. But all that time that I was a Lakers Showtime fan, it's not like I wouldn't hang out or talk with a Boston Celtics fan. In fact, we'd probably have a great time just ripping on each other and ripping on each other's teams. But that's not how it is with politics, and I think the media has made it this way. I think we've been influenced to believing that this is the way it should work with politics because it keeps us divided and it prevents us from having intelligent conversations. And so we treat this as if you're the enemy if you support somebody that I don't support, and I'm not going to talk about any of the issues or take the time to understand any of the issues of the opposing parties. I'm not willing to have a conversation around it, and I'm just going to not be around you. I'm going to move back into my own echo chamber where I either just yell at people, external me, or I connect only with people who believe what I believe. And you can see how problematic this is. It creates these dogmas and these orthodoxies, and no matter who wins, what ends up happening is you've got 70% of the population that's not happy with whoever the person is, but that 70% of the population hasn't even taken time to understand their policies. There's something that exists today where, and I think it's social media, it's so easy to have an opinion and to have absolutely no factual foundation for it. Just to have an opinion. If someone presents you with a different set of facts, you'd rather just hold onto your opinion than go, oh wow, really? I didn't know that. Is that true? Let me go take a look to see if it's true, because then I might change my mind. What we believe in has become such orthodoxy that it's become a part of our identity and a part of our sense of self-security and a part of our own personality. And it's amazing the levels of complexity that have been created at an unconscious level to keep us in that same opinion rather than us being open to changing our mind. It's so ego-driven. I had a conversation with my brother, and my brother's amazing, and my brother's very open-minded. My brother posted something on social media that said, hey, it's really this simple. We have to support the war in Ukraine. Keep financing the war in Ukraine. We have to help the Ukrainian people. And he had someone who commented on it that said, hey, this post is a little tone-deaf. And so I reached out to him and I said, hey, someone commented your post is tone-deaf. Let me explain to you why they may have said that. And I started explaining to him the history of the Ukrainian war, 2014, Obama administration, really driven by the neoconservative movement and Victoria Nuland, who just stepped down, deciding that they were going to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine, which was pro-Russian. They didn't like that it was pro-Russian. So they created uprisings and conflict through nongovernmental organizations within Ukraine and eventually the CIA, in partnership with George Soros and the Open Society Organization, overthrew the government and put a new government in place that was pro-US. And we do this a lot, right? But the problem is the new government is a bunch of Nazis, or we put in a new government which is a bunch of terrorists, or we put in a new government which is a bunch of extremists. Because those are the people who are around to fund and finance if you want to overthrow a government, right? You go work with the extremists and you finance them to overthrow who was there, because it's not ideologically aligned with what you want to achieve. And so now you've got these Nazis supported by US and NATO. I mean, how crazy is this, right? And they start killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine, around 10,000 to 12,000 ethnic Russians in two regions in Ukraine. And they start amassing more weapons and they start activating chemical biological labs. I mean, Victoria Nuland publicly said this, yes, we have biolabs. I cannot deny that we have chemical biological weapons and labs in Ukraine, right up against the Russian border. And they're killing ethnic Russians and then finally Putin steps in and invades, right? And we call it unprovoked. So what I explained to my brother was, hey, like when we're talking about financing, supporting the Ukrainians, be clear, what we're talking about is taking taxpayer money, funneling it through our government and these packages that then go to weapons manufacturers to buy more weapons to put into the hands of Ukrainian boys to go after war to die. That's what's continuing to support the war is. So realize that's what you're posting on social media. And so we started getting into a conversation about it. And at one point I said, well, he said, so what's the solution? I said, well, I believe the solution is you stop funding the war. If there's no more weapons, there's no more fighting back. Russia will stop and then there'll be a peace agreement and a reorganization. And he says, well, I don't think that that's possible. So I say, well, but they had the Minsk Accords and my brother goes, well, what's that? I said, well, that was the peace agreement that Ukraine and Russia had that was almost signed that everybody was happy with. And then Boris Yeltsin was sent over to essentially tell Ukraine, you can't do this agreement and you got to go to war because we're using Ukraine as a proxy war against Russia to exhaust their resources, which I believe it was Mitch McConnell, one of the majority leaders in Congress who came out and said that, yeah, this war is to exhaust the resources, but you just got to go look, you just got to go look and listen. But you can't sit there and just continue to have an opinion. And then the crazy thing is, is when people tell you, hey, this is actually the way it is. You go, well, I don't know if I can believe that. Okay. Well, you can go look it up. Yeah, but I'm not going to go look it up. You know, another thing my brother said was, well, how do you know that Putin would actually back down if we no longer put weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian? And I said, well, he said that. My brother actually said, it'd be nice if you could hear Putin say that, right? And there's always this like next question from people, this next thing from people. Well, it would be nice if we could see this or if this were true. And then you go, well, it is. He did say that. Well, where'd he say that? On an interview with Tucker Carlson. Yeah, but Tucker Carlson is biased. Yeah, but he's interviewing Vladimir Putin. So a minute ago you said, it'd be nice to hear Vladimir Putin say this. Now I'm saying he's saying this and you're saying, well, but it doesn't matter that he's saying it because he's in an interview with Tucker Carlson. And then you go, holy shit, this is why we're all screwed, right? This is why it's all messed up. So, and then, well, but how do you know if you believe him? Let me just go back to my original opinion, which makes no sense in the first place.Which makes no sense in the first place. We need to keep supporting the Ukrainians. Let's keep giving them money, which is saying, let's give it to weapons manufacturers to keep the war going. So it requires, it requires an amount of intellectual fortitude and effort to actually get to the root cause, understanding of what's going on in the world. And most people are not willing to do it. It is so much easier to just have an opinion. And now it's easier than ever before to just share your opinion on social media. And so if we've got a, we've got a whole collective that's sharing these uneducated opinions that are emotionally charged, that they then take on as a personal identity of being right, because so many of us feel like we're not good enough. So here's a wonderful opportunity for us to be right about something and to assert our rightness against other people so that they can be wrong and it has nothing to do with the reality of the situation. And so we continue to spend time or, or congregate around people who agree with what we agree with. That most of the time has no basis in reality. It's just opinion. And we disassociate from other people who have a different opinion and we disassociate from the information that might actually change our opinion. Listen to this. This is a guy who posted on my, on my YouTube video, the one I did recently. You can check it. It's a few episodes ago, my private dinner with RFK Jr. And I mentioned something about, I discovered RFK Jr. because we decided to have a more natural childbirth. We saw that a lot of aspects of what's referred to as the birth machine, medicalized birth, creates trauma for the child. You're just at a fundamental level. Like I was circumcised, probably TMI right there. I was circumcised. And, um, I realized after reading a book by this woman, Ida May, who is like the, um, what the doula, like the, she's the midwife, um, that wrote the book on midwifing and natural births. So we started seeing all of these things. Like, Hey, did you know that women used to stand and dance and walk around when they gave birth? Did you know why they started laying women down? How that was part of making it easier in the medical environment. Do you know when these medications for inducing labor came into play or these, um, what's it called when you get a shot in your back? God, I can't even remember right now. The, um, the thing that numbs the woman. I'm sure it'll come back to me. My wife was reading this book and she's like, did you know, did you know, did you know, did you know, and you start looking at this and you're like, Oh, I don't want to go along with that process. Epidural. So we decided we're going to have a natural birth. And then I'm like, why would I circumcise my kid? Like if I actually look at the risk reward, you know, there's what? Some risk of infection if he's uncircumcised over time, if you're not properly cleaning the genitals, right? The other option is, Hey, little man, welcome to earth. Let me snip off the tip of your deck. Like, no, that's not what we're doing here in welcoming Gabriel to the planet. That's not what we're doing. And so I started looking at all these other things. I'm not puncturing my kid, injecting needles. If we're doing it, it's on a must do basis only, right? He's hanging out with mom. We're playing soft music. We're covering the fluorescent lights with nice colored sachets or sashes or however you say the word, right? And we're doing this as naturally as possible. We're welcoming this being onto planet earth. I am not cutting his genitals within the first two hours. So I started going down the vaccine path and like, okay, which vaccine should I give my kid? Because when I was born in 1975, there were a handful of vaccines that I got and only a handful of shots. And after 1989, that list exploded. And like, now I'm vaccinating my kid for things like hepatitis B. Why he is not at risk of that unless his mom's got it, unless he's going to be a drug user or go out and have unprotected sex and my kid's not going to do it. And if you look at the history of the hep B vaccine, they were like, oh, Hey, let's just be preventative. So that, you know, when people become too traumatized and start using drugs and start having sex, they may not spread hep B in the prison system. Okay. But I'm not worried about that for my kids. So we're taking that one off the schedule. And I read this incredible book called Vaccines 2.0, where these two doctors mapped out the efficacy of all the vaccines, the risk of all the diseases they vaccinate against, which ones are life-threatening, which one, I went through the whole thing and I made some decisions based on that, not based off of some for-profit schedule that's put together by whoever it is, the CDC, the NIH, the FDA, right, a bunch of people who make a shit ton of money based off of how big this schedule grows, where there's no accountability for the pharmaceutical companies and, oh, by the way, where they've modified these products over the last 30 years. And like most other medical products, they don't have to go back and resubmit or retest. They just do an addendum to some vaccine that they proposed back in, you know, 1991, that's now a very different version of it in, in 2024. So I made some decisions about that. And in that journey, I discovered RFK Jr. And he's talking about it in an intelligent way. I'm not saying don't vaccinate your kids. I'm not saying, you know, do a modified schedule. I'm not saying space it out more than, um, what the CDC or the, is telling you to do. I'm not, I'm not saying go do those things. I'm saying since 1989, there's been an epidemic of chronic disease among children and Kennedy talks about it in a really intelligent way. And he's not blaming vaccines. He's saying it's external factors. It could be glyphosate. It could be Roundup. It could be other pesticides. It could be things in the air, things in the soil. It could be electromagnetic frequency and it could be medical products. Some of those might be vaccines. Let's look at all of it because our kids are dying as they're coming into the world. Right? Right now, one in 10,000, 70 year olds have autism. So this is not an issue in misdiagnosis. Right now, one in 10,000, 70 year olds have autism. Right now, one in 24 boys have autism. Okay. We have to figure out what's going on. And Kennedy wants to talk about that. Trump ain't talking about it. Biden ain't talking about it. I'm passionate about it. I don't want kids coming into the world dying. I don't want my kid or other kids coming into the world and, and, and to have something that either we're doing something we're doing, let's be clear, because whether it's environmental or whether it's a medical product or whether it's something else is something we've done on this planet is making these kids sick and we should figure it out. So this guy comments on my YouTube that unfollows me. He says, did your parents have you vaccinated when you were a baby? Well, yeah, my parents had me vaccinated when I was a baby. I think the vaccination schedule was seven, not 70. I'm not saying don't vaccinate. And I said that in the episode. Yes. My parents vaccinated me when I was a child. What about your dogs? Do you get your dogs vaccinated to protect them from rabies and distemper? Yes. Those are two vaccines, two vaccines. I don't vaccinate my dog with 60 to 80 shots over the first 10 years of their lives. Right. And by the way, it wouldn't even be the first 10 years of a human's life is the formative years. First 10 years of a dog's life is over half the years, but yes, of course I vaccinate my dog for a couple of things that would be life-threatening, right? And they get a couple of shots. If you were in a car accident and had to go to the hospital and you were in excruciating pain and they offered you a shot of morphine to ease your pain at the hospital. Would you say thanks, but no thanks? No, I'd take the morphine. What does that have to do with the volume of medical products that we're putting in children as their immune system is developing? What, what is that? Did I say don't do medicine? Did I, did I? No, I didn't say that. Right. But you can just see someone comes in and this is what's happening. And this is the point with an emotional perspective. It's not an intellectual, it's an emotional perspective. People feel a certain way about things, and then they don't do the exploration as to why they feel that way. They don't look at the thinking. They don't look at the intellectual component of it and then question it or be open to other people who may be able to provide different perspectives that may be more accurate, more aligned with what's true. They just react and they do it on social media. Right. Um, in the old days, we didn't vote for people like RFK Jr. We voted for people with a working knowledge of how the government works. Okay. We're talking about someone who grew up in potentially, arguably the greatest political dynasty and family that ever existed, right? That would like be like saying that like, I live in a family of technologists, but I know nothing about how technology works. Right. So you've got a guy who's a lawyer, who's been working with and against government agencies for the last 20 years, understands how they work as an environmental protection attorney and grew up in the greatest political dynasty in the history of America. Right. Back in my day, we voted for people with a working knowledge of how the government works. Oh, all right. Gotcha, buddy. We weren't single issue voters. We voted for the lesser of the, of the evils. Personally, I wouldn't vote for RFK Jr. For the low or, or for the local dog catcher in my town, because my dog has more government experience than RFK Jr. These are voters, you know what I mean? And so if you really get to the root issue, if you want to go like to the cause of the cause of the cause of the cause of all of this, there is now a call for us to heal ourselves. That's what this is about. Each and every one of us, whether we're supporting RFK, whether we're supporting Trump, whether supporting Biden, whether we're, what's the new word, non-committed, uncommitted. Um, everything that we're seeing external to us, all the chaos, all the problems, all the corruption, all the dysfunction, all the damage, all the destruction, that's just a materialization of unprocessed trauma inside of all of us. The, the degree to which we are healthy inside is the degree to which we will experience a healthy world. And so, you know, that's, that's why I started this podcast. And that's why I believe in the certainty of the goodness of the future. Right now we're witnessing at a deeper level of awareness, all of, all of the unintelligence, all of the chaos, uh, all of the trauma, right. That's out there, which is unresolved inside of us. And so if we want to create change, you know, this episode is actually not about voting for Trump or voting for Biden or voting for Bobby. That's not what it's about. This episode is about being able to have enough emotional and spiritual sovereignty to allow the political process to unfold and for allow people to have their opinions and to encourage us into an intelligent conversation around these topics that are important to all of us, right? I would think that like chronic disease among children is important to all of us. The fact that we have $33 trillion in debt and within the next couple of years, 50 cents of every dollar is going to have to go to service. The debt is important to all of us, right? The fact that millions and millions of millions of people are dying in what could be perceived as unnecessary wars or wars that start, but could end, but don't end because there's a motivation for profit coming out of these wars. That's the thing that's important to all of us, right? The border and, and, and having a proper way for individuals to come legally into the United States, which is a place of hope and a place of freedom. But to also make sure we keep out the undesirables who we truly don't want, who are coming across the border to, you know, grow their drug businesses or, you know, commit acts of terror. That's important to all of us. And I think us all being able to discuss these ideas together, even taking concepts that are shared by a particular platform, like how Trump would handle it or how Bobby would handle it or how Biden would handle it, and then for us to talk about like, how else do we think we could handle it? That's a bottom up responsibility, right? That's a responsibility civilians have. And I think we've, we've lost touch with that responsibility. And so we get, there was an interview between Bobby Kennedy on Jocko's podcast recently, where the tagline or the title was something like, you know, you, you, you get the government that you deserve. And so we're getting the government that we deserve right now, because we're, we're not grounded enough in ourselves. We haven't healed ourselves enough to be able to see through the facade that's being created, to be able to stand undivided, a mixed, um, uh, encouragement for division, uh, and to be able to, from a really loving place, address each other and address these issues so that we can make some progress together. So I go back to this idea that the solution is a changed mind. The solution is you doing the work, you healing yourself, you being in a place where no matter what someone thinks or does around you, you're not reactive. You're responsive from a WWJD place from a, what would Jesus do place? It's what I like about Bobby Kennedy, by the way, if you watch some of his interviews, they just attack him ruthlessly. And he just responds with information, love, kindness. He said, that's what his campaign is about. One of the questions I asked him when I was sitting across from him was, Hey, I've never seen anyone be able to have the level of emotional resiliency and emotional control that you have. Clearly he's superior to Trump and Biden in terms of his emotional capacity and what he's shown. Um, that doesn't mean that you have to vote for him, but it just, as we start to evaluate, you know, Trump, Trump does not have a lot of emotional control, emotional intelligence, Biden. It's hard to tell anymore because you get so little out of him when you see him publicly. Um, but I said to Bobby, I said, is this because of the work that you've done in 12 step recovery? And he said, yeah, 100%. He's been in 12 step recovery, Alcoholics Anonymous recovery for over 30 years, goes to nine meetings a week. And that is a program of emotional resiliency. And it's a program of love. It's a loving path. It's a program of tolerance and accepting others. And I think that that's the way through all of this, but we can't just have a president who actually embodies that. We all have to embody that. And that's a big part of what our relationship here is. That that's a big part of why I'm doing my best to share with you, you know, how to move out of fear around your money, how to move out of fear and move into love and your relationships, how to move out of fear and move into inspiration in your business. Um, how to understand how these root cause principles work like time, uh, what causes self-sabotage, what, what creates anger or overwhelm, um, what's really going on in the world with this thing that we'd call the new world order and totalitarian control and putting each of these pieces in perspective for you so that you can actually be in love and calm in it. This process will resolve, you know, when I was in the depths of my addiction and my life had become unmanageable and I was operating from a place of insanity and I felt powerless to change it. That's what brought me into my spiritual awakening. It's what brought me into my personal power. It's brought what brought me into my ability to actually lead myself and lead others. And that's what's happening in the world right now. The world is in a process of unmanageability. It's an addiction and it's really an addiction to insecurity. It's an addiction to the thought patterns and the emotions that we haven't properly processed. Thousands of years of trauma that have come through. It's, it's the addiction represented by the ego. And so we're materializing an ego driven world, just like when I was in my addiction, I had materialized in the ego driven life. And when you create an ego driven world, it becomes unmanageable for you. You have a breakdown and a meltdown. And from that place of knowing not what else to do, you start to reconnect with noble principles, forgiveness, love, kindness, grace, patience, curiosity. And if you can train your nervous system to operate from that place, well, then you're going to have the thoughts and the ideas that are going to actually solve the problems of the world today. You're going to have the thoughts and ideas that will create the new system regardless of how big or scary or now they've got AI, right? The old system is, I don't, I don't believe that the old system is going to sustain itself and you become a better person, right? Think about it. You being a better person because you've metabolized and processed your trauma and your mommy and your daddy shit, and you're feeling good about yourself and you're loving towards others. That's, that's going to wear off on other people. Isn't it? It helps other people. If you're happy, other people around you are happier. And so this goes to that idea of be the change in the world. So it's all moving in the right direction. I heard recently, Russell Brand was interviewing someone who said like, if we don't get control of this, you know, corporate captured totalitarian system that has emerged with the world economic forum and, you know, control of the media and censorship and the military industrial complex, he's like, once they get their hands on AI, we're going to enter the, uh, uh, uh, what did he call it? The dark ages of totalitarian control. It's like, no, we're not. It seems like that on paper, but no, we're not, you know, in my relationship with my higher power, like my God of my understanding is so much greater than totalitarian control. And I think that's why faith or belief in something greater than ourselves is necessary in order to navigate through this. You know, I go back to the story of the Bible, you know, what were the chances that David could overcome Goliath? Zero, right. But he had God on his side. He had a higher power on his side. And I think it's important, you know, whether the God of, of, of your understanding is in Christianity or Islam or metaphysics or the universe. It's, it's important. And what I love about the, the, the scripture is that it tells us about what our higher power can do for us individually and collectively. You know, when the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt under Pharaoh, that was the dark ages of totalitarian control, wasn't it? Maybe I'll do a whole separate episode on this, but that was the dark. That was no way out. I mean, you're a slave in Egypt, you're done. And, uh, and God used that as an opportunity to go, let me show you how I operate and just through a couple of people, right through Moses, his brother Aaron, um, they led the Hebrews out of the totalitarian, uh, the dark ages of totalitarian control away from Pharaoh. Well, how did it happen? It happened through miracles. It happened through plagues. It happened with Moses trusting and outstretching his hand over the Red Sea and watching the sea part and the Hebrews escaping through the sea. And then it's swallowing the armies of Pharaoh. And what's so cool about that story is, you know, God didn't just take the, the Jews, the Hebrews out of slavery and take them to like non-slavery. He didn't just take them from slavery to the better land. Where did he take them? He took them to a place called the promised land. It was the best land, right? It was the best place. It's what was promised. And so in many ways, like we're living in that promised land today and the story is repeating itself. And I think that oftentimes you have to have something that shows up that feels like the dark ages, that feels like there's no way out in order for us to remember that we're really not in control, but there is one that is. And, and that higher power will work through us and around us in order to, um, shepherd us through any type of challenges. So I share this story with you because just some of my private clients are like, yeah, I'm scared. Like, what do I do? The banking system collapses. Do I buy gold? Do I build a farm? Do I raise sheep? I'm like, listen, no, you, you, you, you strengthen your faith. You, you, you heal yourself. You clean yourself out. You become a pure vessel of intelligence and love and inspiration, and you'll be guided to do all the right things. And you'll be guided to be a part of creating this next level of humanity and creating this next level of earth. And you'll get to do it with other people who are doing the same thing. Right. And that's a beautiful life. That's a powerful living experience. That's the way through. And so I'm sharing it with you because I don't want you to buy into any of this. It's okay. Let's understand it. Let's take a moment to kind of see what's going on because that allows us to go, wow, don't want more of that. I want to create something that's exactly the opposite. It allows us to observe it without being entangled with it. Right? Because until we emerge from it, we're entangled with it. We're part of it. And then we're going to move into fearless people. We're going to move into faith-based people because the only thing that is keeping the structure in place is actually the unprocessed fear that we still hold in our nervous system. Yeah. Think about it. If you have your own life, but you have a lot of fears, you're going to materialize those fears in your life. Well, if we, as a people hold a lot of fears, that vibrance, that, uh, that resonance, it's going to materialize itself into sort of these larger structures. So what do we do? What's the antidote or solution when we're working on our own individual lives? It's to detoxify ourselves of fear. It's to have more faith. It's to have more empowered decisions, less limiting beliefs. It's to forgive our resentments, right? It's to surrender and live life and flow and in cooperation with a power greater than ourselves. Well, if we can do that as a, as a collective, then we're going to change the collective reality too. So, you know, I feel very grateful for those thousand people who unsubscribed from my YouTube channel because it inspired this conversation. And I think this conversation is supremely clarifying and really important and it makes me feel good, you know, to be able to have a conversation like this, but at the end, feel good, feel certain that things are moving in the right direction. And I'm part of that moving in the right direction. And I'm doing the work to actually be part of that positive right direction. And you're doing the work because you're here tuning in and listening to this. I mean, there's no coincidence, right? It's all frequency. It's all energy. You're resonating at this level of this conversation, which means like you're actually part of creating the new world and you are part of safety within the chaos. You are part of abundance within the scarcity. So you're, you're in the right place at the right time right now. And I just want to acknowledge you. I also, you know, I don't have any paid sponsors on this podcast. Every once in a while, I'll tell you about my book or an event that's coming up. But if you want to pay it forward, this is my ask for you. Tell somebody about this episode, go listen to another episode, share the podcast with other people, because again, the solution is a changed mind. And you know, the feedback that I've been getting from people is like, Hey, when I listened to these episodes, I get reoriented to what I always knew was true, but didn't know how to articulate. And we need to be bring as many people into this truth school, this wisdom school as possible. And so if you want to be again, at another angle on you being a change agent in the world, you know, do you and me and all of us a favor, let's bring more people into this conversation. Tell somebody about the podcast or this episode. So I love you. I hope that was helpful for you. I hope it was grounding. I think you're going to start to notice that when you see these external chaotic things in the world going on, you're going to be less afraid and you're going to know a little bit more. Hey, this change is taking place, but you are on the leading edge of where it's going, right? Safety, security, prosperity, abundance, love, joy, and connection. And just keep doing the work, just keep showing up and doing the work with me. I love you so much. I'll see you in the next episode.I'll see you in the next episode.