>> Dr. Terry Simpson: There's been a lot of talk about mitochondria
Speaker:lately. You had RFK Jr claiming as he walked
Speaker:through an airport he can see kids who are
Speaker:mitochondrial challenged. Now, RFK Jr. Unless he's
Speaker:developed a superpower to see inside living cells
Speaker:at 40 yards past TSA, no, you can't diagnose that.
Speaker:On the other end of the spectrum, you have Peter
Speaker:Attia, the current longevity guru of billionaires,
Speaker:doing three hour podcasts on mitochondrial decline
Speaker:and longevity, all while hawking some AG1. And in
Speaker:between, there's an entire wellness universe
Speaker:selling mitochondrial detox powers, peptides,
Speaker:resets, cleanses, and basically everything except
Speaker:mitochondrial reality. So why are we talking about
Speaker:them? Because it turns out mitochondria are, are
Speaker:the reason we age, get old and lose our health
Speaker:span. So today we are going to talk mitochondria
Speaker:reality and why mitochondria matter, what they do,
Speaker:how we age, and what you can do to keep them
Speaker:really healthy without buying powdered unicorn
Speaker:horn from the Internet. And, uh, please don't be
Speaker:like RFK Jr. Let's stick with the science. Today
Speaker:we're making sense of the madness of mitochondria.
Speaker:I'm Dr. Hi, I'm Terry Simpson, your chief medical
Speaker:explanationist. And this is Forku Fork University,
Speaker:where we bust myths, make sense of the madness,
Speaker:um, and explain that complicated world of food and
Speaker:medicine without the woo m. Inside every single
Speaker:cell of your body, except for red blood cells,
Speaker:live tiny structures called mitochondria. They're
Speaker:like their own little organ, and they behave like
Speaker:a mini cell inside your own body. They have their
Speaker:own set of DNA separate from the cell's DNA. They
Speaker:divide independently and they act independently.
Speaker:But what they are really important for is they run
Speaker:the energy production of your cell and your life.
Speaker:By the way, you inherit mitochondria from your
Speaker:mother, which is why mitochondrial DNA is so
Speaker:useful for tracing ancestry. And, and because the
Speaker:mitochondrial DNA is pretty hardy, we can actually
Speaker:get mitochondrial DNA almost from fossils. About a
Speaker:billion and a half years ago, a, uh, primitive
Speaker:cell swallowed a bacteria and instead of ingesting
Speaker:it, they became symbiotic. One saying, you make
Speaker:energy and I'll keep you safe. And that swallowed
Speaker:bacteria and became the forerunner of what we call
Speaker:mitochondria today. But more important, that
Speaker:ancient merger between a single celled organism
Speaker:swallowing another that became symbiotic was the
Speaker:start of complex life, making all of us possible.
Speaker:Now, what do mitochondria m do without the
Speaker:biochemistry? Here's a version that won't give you
Speaker:flashbacks to college Biochem Mitochondria take
Speaker:glucose from your food, from your body and turn it
Speaker:into ATP, the energy molecule your cells use to
Speaker:lift your weights, pump your heart, fire a neuron,
Speaker:whether it be in your brain or in your toe, and
Speaker:heal tissue. Now, ATP supplements exist and they
Speaker:don't work. If ATP worked orally, TikTok would be
Speaker:full of glowing people. The only way you can
Speaker:really get ATP usefully is by having your
Speaker:mitochondria make it from the universal currency
Speaker:of metabolism, glucose. Now there are, ah, young
Speaker:mitochondria and there are old mitochondria. And
Speaker:here's the difference. Young mitochondria are like
Speaker:my teenage son. He's energetic, he's fast, he's
Speaker:resilient, annoyingly efficient. And old
Speaker:mitochondria, they kind of remind me of that 14
Speaker:year PhD student who knows where every coffee shop
Speaker:on campus is, drinks too much caffeine, has
Speaker:written absolutely nothing on his dissertation
Speaker:since 2011, but likes to flirt with the co eds and
Speaker:wants to have that fatherly figure too. Well, you
Speaker:know, old mitochondria are slow, but they leak
Speaker:oxidative waste, lots of inflammatory tissues,
Speaker:they cause mutations, they become unreliable. And
Speaker:here's the kicker. Mitochondria constantly fuse
Speaker:with one another and they divide. And if a damaged
Speaker:mitochondria fuses with a healthy one, it's like
Speaker:pouring spilled milk into a fresh gallon of milk.
Speaker:You don't get half fresh milk, you don't get all
Speaker:fresh milk. You get one giant ruined bit of milk.
Speaker:That's why mitochondrial aging accelerates
Speaker:cellular aging. Your body has a way to clean up
Speaker:old mitochondria. It's called mitophagy. Sounds
Speaker:like autophagy, but it's specific to mitochondria.
Speaker:And it's a process where our cells have this great
Speaker:recycling process where they clean out old damaged
Speaker:mitochondria, replacing them with new one. But as
Speaker:we age, the ability to clean out those old
Speaker:mitochondria become older, the cleanup trough
Speaker:becomes kind of tired. Broken mitochondria stay in
Speaker:the system, dysfunction spreads, and the decline
Speaker:is one of the fundamental drivers of aging. Now,
Speaker:aging mitochondria don't just underperform, they
Speaker:cause mischief. They leak oxidative stress
Speaker:molecules. They confuse normal cell signaling,
Speaker:triggering retrograde signaling, which is
Speaker:distressed messages back to the nucleus of the
Speaker:cell, changing gene expression and in dangerous
Speaker:ways. Meaning that can actually promote pathways
Speaker:that cancer cells use. Increased resistance to
Speaker:chemotherapies and other therapies. It supports
Speaker:metastasis and it drives Chronic inflammation. So
Speaker:when the balance of fission and fusion fall apart,
Speaker:mitochondrial chaos becomes cellular chaos. Aging
Speaker:mitochondria aren't innocent. They actively
Speaker:sabotage tissue. Let me give you an example. In
Speaker:the brain. Now, your brain depends on mitochondria
Speaker:more than almost any other organ. The neurons use
Speaker:a massive amount of energy. So when mitochondria
Speaker:slow down, thinking slows down, memory fades,
Speaker:synapses weakens, inflammation rises. You move
Speaker:more slowly, you move more hesitantly. In
Speaker:Alzheimer's disease, for example, mitochondrial
Speaker:dysfunction shows up early, even before major
Speaker:amyloid buildup. Damaged mitochondria worsen the
Speaker:inflammation in the brain, disrupt neuronal
Speaker:communication and accelerate decline. And even
Speaker:blood tests can show this. Older adults with
Speaker:weaker mitochondrial function often perform worse
Speaker:on memory tests, while stronger mitochondrial
Speaker:performance predicts a, uh, lower dementia risk.
Speaker:Put it simply, healthier mitochondria, healthier
Speaker:brain. So why do we age? We age because our
Speaker:mitochondria age. Now, we've talked in the last
Speaker:two episodes about Nadia. People wanted to top off
Speaker:the nad tank and sounds clever, but it just
Speaker:doesn't reverse aging. And we talked about
Speaker:urolithin A, which is an interesting molecule
Speaker:because it improves endurance a little bit, but it
Speaker:doesn't restore youth. What actively people are
Speaker:looking for is a mitochondrial reset switch, which
Speaker:we don't have yet. We want to have young
Speaker:mitochondria. Well, there are things we can do
Speaker:that actually improves mitochondrial health. Let's
Speaker:start with resistance training. When you lift
Speaker:weights or, uh, push resistance in any form, your
Speaker:mitochondria literally are upgrading themselves.
Speaker:Not only do you make better mitochondria, they
Speaker:remodel. They have a stronger respiratory
Speaker:capacity, they make ATP more efficiently, they're
Speaker:more resilient, they are better with all of those
Speaker:oxidative stress molecules. And that happens in
Speaker:either young people or adult people. And what's
Speaker:more, resistance training for builds new
Speaker:myonuclei, which are control centers that stick
Speaker:around for life and help you adapt faster next
Speaker:time you train. Yes, muscle memory is real, and
Speaker:mitochondria is part of the reason you need
Speaker:examples of resistance training. Dumbbells,
Speaker:resistance band, bodyweight, squats, wall sits,
Speaker:push ups, pilates, kettlebells, chair based
Speaker:resistance for older adults. If you push against
Speaker:force, you're building mitochondria. Now, before
Speaker:anyone asks, no, Vinyasa, yoga is not resistance
Speaker:training. I know it's my favorite exercise. And
Speaker:yes, I've tried to convince myself that holding
Speaker:downward dog for 30 seconds counts as hypertrophy.
Speaker:But my yogi swan does the power yogi interval
Speaker:thing where Suddenly, you're doing planks, lunges,
Speaker:and warrior poses at Mach 3. And by the end, I'm
Speaker:sweating like I'm defending my PhD thesis. So,
Speaker:technically, I get some strengthwear. But let's be
Speaker:honest, if you ever hear me brag about yoga being
Speaker:my resistance training, just pat me on the head
Speaker:and hand the dumbbell a dumbbell. How about Zone
Speaker:two exercise? That's good. So what is Zone two
Speaker:exercise? Now, you can get some wearables, like a
Speaker:whoop or a, uh, Withings, and you can see it. But
Speaker:basically, if you can talk but you can't sing and
Speaker:you're doing some exercise, that's great. For
Speaker:mitochondria, sleep is a mitochondria's
Speaker:powerhouse.
Speaker:That's when mitochondria become repaired. Clean
Speaker:out the old mitochondria. Sleep is your
Speaker:superpower. We're going to have an entire episode
Speaker:about sleep later on. Mediterranean diet. Wow.
Speaker:Yep. Once again, it's protective. It's anti
Speaker:inflammatory. It's proven. Now, there are other
Speaker:things you can do. Here's what makes things worse.
Speaker:High blood sugars, high blood pressure, high ldl,
Speaker:they all destroy mitochondria at a record speed.
Speaker:Take high glucose in patients who have
Speaker:uncontrolled diabetes. Think of them as
Speaker:caramelizing proteins. Think of hypertension or
Speaker:high blood pressure as blasting organs like a fire
Speaker:hose hitting a garden. Think of the high
Speaker:cholesterol that oxidized LDL inflames arteries.
Speaker:Now, we've known about high blood pressure since
Speaker:fdr. Unchecked, high blood pressure destroys
Speaker:longevity. And now we have better medications.
Speaker:Aging is chemistry. It's not mystery. Okay, you're
Speaker:going to hear some influencers insist insulin
Speaker:resistance is the root of everything. And that
Speaker:keto or carnivore solves aging, depression,
Speaker:autoimmune disease, and probably your taxes. Peter
Speaker:Attia and Taubes championed this model years ago.
Speaker:They funded rigorous studies, and the model
Speaker:failed. There's no metabolic advantage to low carb
Speaker:eating. There's no magical fat burning, no insulin
Speaker:trick. And mitochondria actually age a little
Speaker:faster with low carb diets. But the coaches that
Speaker:you'll find on TikTok, uh, Instagram and
Speaker:everywhere else didn't change their program. They
Speaker:just changed their affiliate links. What about
Speaker:alcohol? Alcohol generates oxidative stress that
Speaker:hits mitochondria like a wrecking ball. It damages
Speaker:mitochondrial DNA, disrupts the fission and fusion
Speaker:process of mitochondria, slowing recycling. You
Speaker:know that hangover? It's your mitochondria saying,
Speaker:please don't do that again. Now, this has been
Speaker:kind of a graduate level mitochondria stuff, but
Speaker:you probably figured out that some people use
Speaker:mitochondria and mitochondrial disease the way
Speaker:Deepak Chopra uses the word quantum as some
Speaker:mystical placeholder for whatever they can't
Speaker:explain. It's a God of the gaps thing again. But
Speaker:mitochondria are real. They drive inflammation,
Speaker:metabolism, cancer risk, cognitive function and
Speaker:energy. Understanding them and keeping them
Speaker:healthy helps us age better. Your mitochondria are
Speaker:trying help them out. Research and writing for
Speaker:this episode were done by me, Dr. Terri Simpson.
Speaker:While I'm a board certified physician, I am not
Speaker:your physician. If you're going to change your
Speaker:diet, please see a doctor and a registered
Speaker:dietitian. And for God's sake, if you're
Speaker:undergoing surgery or seeing your doctor, tell
Speaker:them m about every single supplement you take. All
Speaker:things audio come from my friends at Simpler Media
Speaker:and the chief mitochondrion himself, Mr. Evo
Speaker:Terra. As always, Producer Girl Productions turned
Speaker:what started out as a graduate level biochemistry
Speaker:rant into something hopefully you can actually
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Speaker:breakdown and references and your doctor's orders
Speaker:and4q.com whichever one you like. Have a great
Speaker:week. Take care of your mitochondria. They're
Speaker:working hard even when you're resting. Hey, Evo,
Speaker:how are your mitochondria doing? Well, after this
Speaker:episode, I've got a whole new plan. Sleep more and
Speaker:get my mitochondria to quit drinking. Right. Okay,
Speaker:let's go with that.