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>> Dr. Terry Simpson: There's been a lot of talk about mitochondria

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lately. You had RFK Jr claiming as he walked

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through an airport he can see kids who are

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mitochondrial challenged. Now, RFK Jr. Unless he's

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developed a superpower to see inside living cells

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at 40 yards past TSA, no, you can't diagnose that.

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On the other end of the spectrum, you have Peter

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Attia, the current longevity guru of billionaires,

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doing three hour podcasts on mitochondrial decline

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and longevity, all while hawking some AG1. And in

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between, there's an entire wellness universe

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selling mitochondrial detox powers, peptides,

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resets, cleanses, and basically everything except

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mitochondrial reality. So why are we talking about

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them? Because it turns out mitochondria are, are

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the reason we age, get old and lose our health

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span. So today we are going to talk mitochondria

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reality and why mitochondria matter, what they do,

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how we age, and what you can do to keep them

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really healthy without buying powdered unicorn

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horn from the Internet. And, uh, please don't be

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like RFK Jr. Let's stick with the science. Today

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we're making sense of the madness of mitochondria.

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I'm Dr. Hi, I'm Terry Simpson, your chief medical

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explanationist. And this is Forku Fork University,

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where we bust myths, make sense of the madness,

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um, and explain that complicated world of food and

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medicine without the woo m. Inside every single

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cell of your body, except for red blood cells,

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live tiny structures called mitochondria. They're

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like their own little organ, and they behave like

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a mini cell inside your own body. They have their

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own set of DNA separate from the cell's DNA. They

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divide independently and they act independently.

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But what they are really important for is they run

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the energy production of your cell and your life.

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By the way, you inherit mitochondria from your

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mother, which is why mitochondrial DNA is so

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useful for tracing ancestry. And, and because the

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mitochondrial DNA is pretty hardy, we can actually

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get mitochondrial DNA almost from fossils. About a

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billion and a half years ago, a, uh, primitive

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cell swallowed a bacteria and instead of ingesting

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it, they became symbiotic. One saying, you make

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energy and I'll keep you safe. And that swallowed

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bacteria and became the forerunner of what we call

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mitochondria today. But more important, that

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ancient merger between a single celled organism

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swallowing another that became symbiotic was the

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start of complex life, making all of us possible.

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Now, what do mitochondria m do without the

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biochemistry? Here's a version that won't give you

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flashbacks to college Biochem Mitochondria take

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glucose from your food, from your body and turn it

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into ATP, the energy molecule your cells use to

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lift your weights, pump your heart, fire a neuron,

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whether it be in your brain or in your toe, and

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heal tissue. Now, ATP supplements exist and they

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don't work. If ATP worked orally, TikTok would be

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full of glowing people. The only way you can

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really get ATP usefully is by having your

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mitochondria make it from the universal currency

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of metabolism, glucose. Now there are, ah, young

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mitochondria and there are old mitochondria. And

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here's the difference. Young mitochondria are like

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my teenage son. He's energetic, he's fast, he's

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resilient, annoyingly efficient. And old

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mitochondria, they kind of remind me of that 14

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year PhD student who knows where every coffee shop

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on campus is, drinks too much caffeine, has

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written absolutely nothing on his dissertation

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since 2011, but likes to flirt with the co eds and

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wants to have that fatherly figure too. Well, you

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know, old mitochondria are slow, but they leak

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oxidative waste, lots of inflammatory tissues,

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they cause mutations, they become unreliable. And

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here's the kicker. Mitochondria constantly fuse

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with one another and they divide. And if a damaged

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mitochondria fuses with a healthy one, it's like

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pouring spilled milk into a fresh gallon of milk.

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You don't get half fresh milk, you don't get all

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fresh milk. You get one giant ruined bit of milk.

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That's why mitochondrial aging accelerates

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cellular aging. Your body has a way to clean up

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old mitochondria. It's called mitophagy. Sounds

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like autophagy, but it's specific to mitochondria.

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And it's a process where our cells have this great

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recycling process where they clean out old damaged

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mitochondria, replacing them with new one. But as

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we age, the ability to clean out those old

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mitochondria become older, the cleanup trough

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becomes kind of tired. Broken mitochondria stay in

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the system, dysfunction spreads, and the decline

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is one of the fundamental drivers of aging. Now,

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aging mitochondria don't just underperform, they

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cause mischief. They leak oxidative stress

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molecules. They confuse normal cell signaling,

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triggering retrograde signaling, which is

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distressed messages back to the nucleus of the

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cell, changing gene expression and in dangerous

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ways. Meaning that can actually promote pathways

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that cancer cells use. Increased resistance to

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chemotherapies and other therapies. It supports

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metastasis and it drives Chronic inflammation. So

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when the balance of fission and fusion fall apart,

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mitochondrial chaos becomes cellular chaos. Aging

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mitochondria aren't innocent. They actively

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sabotage tissue. Let me give you an example. In

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the brain. Now, your brain depends on mitochondria

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more than almost any other organ. The neurons use

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a massive amount of energy. So when mitochondria

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slow down, thinking slows down, memory fades,

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synapses weakens, inflammation rises. You move

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more slowly, you move more hesitantly. In

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Alzheimer's disease, for example, mitochondrial

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dysfunction shows up early, even before major

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amyloid buildup. Damaged mitochondria worsen the

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inflammation in the brain, disrupt neuronal

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communication and accelerate decline. And even

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blood tests can show this. Older adults with

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weaker mitochondrial function often perform worse

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on memory tests, while stronger mitochondrial

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performance predicts a, uh, lower dementia risk.

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Put it simply, healthier mitochondria, healthier

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brain. So why do we age? We age because our

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mitochondria age. Now, we've talked in the last

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two episodes about Nadia. People wanted to top off

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the nad tank and sounds clever, but it just

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doesn't reverse aging. And we talked about

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urolithin A, which is an interesting molecule

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because it improves endurance a little bit, but it

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doesn't restore youth. What actively people are

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looking for is a mitochondrial reset switch, which

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we don't have yet. We want to have young

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mitochondria. Well, there are things we can do

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that actually improves mitochondrial health. Let's

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start with resistance training. When you lift

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weights or, uh, push resistance in any form, your

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mitochondria literally are upgrading themselves.

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Not only do you make better mitochondria, they

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remodel. They have a stronger respiratory

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capacity, they make ATP more efficiently, they're

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more resilient, they are better with all of those

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oxidative stress molecules. And that happens in

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either young people or adult people. And what's

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more, resistance training for builds new

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myonuclei, which are control centers that stick

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around for life and help you adapt faster next

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time you train. Yes, muscle memory is real, and

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mitochondria is part of the reason you need

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examples of resistance training. Dumbbells,

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resistance band, bodyweight, squats, wall sits,

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push ups, pilates, kettlebells, chair based

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resistance for older adults. If you push against

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force, you're building mitochondria. Now, before

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anyone asks, no, Vinyasa, yoga is not resistance

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training. I know it's my favorite exercise. And

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yes, I've tried to convince myself that holding

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downward dog for 30 seconds counts as hypertrophy.

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But my yogi swan does the power yogi interval

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thing where Suddenly, you're doing planks, lunges,

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and warrior poses at Mach 3. And by the end, I'm

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sweating like I'm defending my PhD thesis. So,

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technically, I get some strengthwear. But let's be

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honest, if you ever hear me brag about yoga being

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my resistance training, just pat me on the head

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and hand the dumbbell a dumbbell. How about Zone

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two exercise? That's good. So what is Zone two

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exercise? Now, you can get some wearables, like a

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whoop or a, uh, Withings, and you can see it. But

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basically, if you can talk but you can't sing and

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you're doing some exercise, that's great. For

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mitochondria, sleep is a mitochondria's

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powerhouse.

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That's when mitochondria become repaired. Clean

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out the old mitochondria. Sleep is your

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superpower. We're going to have an entire episode

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about sleep later on. Mediterranean diet. Wow.

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Yep. Once again, it's protective. It's anti

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inflammatory. It's proven. Now, there are other

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things you can do. Here's what makes things worse.

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High blood sugars, high blood pressure, high ldl,

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they all destroy mitochondria at a record speed.

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Take high glucose in patients who have

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uncontrolled diabetes. Think of them as

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caramelizing proteins. Think of hypertension or

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high blood pressure as blasting organs like a fire

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hose hitting a garden. Think of the high

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cholesterol that oxidized LDL inflames arteries.

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Now, we've known about high blood pressure since

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fdr. Unchecked, high blood pressure destroys

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longevity. And now we have better medications.

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Aging is chemistry. It's not mystery. Okay, you're

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going to hear some influencers insist insulin

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resistance is the root of everything. And that

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keto or carnivore solves aging, depression,

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autoimmune disease, and probably your taxes. Peter

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Attia and Taubes championed this model years ago.

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They funded rigorous studies, and the model

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failed. There's no metabolic advantage to low carb

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eating. There's no magical fat burning, no insulin

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trick. And mitochondria actually age a little

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faster with low carb diets. But the coaches that

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you'll find on TikTok, uh, Instagram and

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everywhere else didn't change their program. They

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just changed their affiliate links. What about

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alcohol? Alcohol generates oxidative stress that

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hits mitochondria like a wrecking ball. It damages

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mitochondrial DNA, disrupts the fission and fusion

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process of mitochondria, slowing recycling. You

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know that hangover? It's your mitochondria saying,

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please don't do that again. Now, this has been

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kind of a graduate level mitochondria stuff, but

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you probably figured out that some people use

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mitochondria and mitochondrial disease the way

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Deepak Chopra uses the word quantum as some

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mystical placeholder for whatever they can't

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explain. It's a God of the gaps thing again. But

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mitochondria are real. They drive inflammation,

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metabolism, cancer risk, cognitive function and

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energy. Understanding them and keeping them

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healthy helps us age better. Your mitochondria are

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trying help them out. Research and writing for

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this episode were done by me, Dr. Terri Simpson.

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While I'm a board certified physician, I am not

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your physician. If you're going to change your

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diet, please see a doctor and a registered

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dietitian. And for God's sake, if you're

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undergoing surgery or seeing your doctor, tell

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them m about every single supplement you take. All

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things audio come from my friends at Simpler Media

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and the chief mitochondrion himself, Mr. Evo

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Terra. As always, Producer Girl Productions turned

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what started out as a graduate level biochemistry

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rant into something hopefully you can actually

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use. Please subscribe and rate the show and follow

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me on Substack, where you'll find the full

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breakdown and references and your doctor's orders

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and4q.com whichever one you like. Have a great

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week. Take care of your mitochondria. They're

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working hard even when you're resting. Hey, Evo,

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how are your mitochondria doing? Well, after this

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episode, I've got a whole new plan. Sleep more and

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get my mitochondria to quit drinking. Right. Okay,

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let's go with that.