>> Speaker A: New week here on chase and birdies, and we are

into a new month.

And today's episode. Man, I can't wait. I cannot

wait to get into it, my man.

>> Speaker B: It is a fun filled episode.

M man, we took a shot in the dark

with our man and he actually came and it was awesome.

>> Speaker A: He did. I know.

>> Speaker B: He was great. The podcast is great. People are gonna

enjoy it. so I can't wait for y'all to hear about

that, but we gotta get into a little bit of.

>> Speaker A: And thanks for tuning in today. I forgot to say that in the beginning. So,

my man JP, what's shaking, baby?

>> Speaker B: Not much, man. I am doing this from

Indianapolis, Indiana. Back on the road,

dude. It's been a long road to this

point. Back on the road. tomorrow, have

a big appointment August 2. See if I get

my right shoe back. So now I don't have to just pack left

shoes. So that's exciting.

>> Speaker A: But one thing about you is you don't forget

how to do things. Some people might forget how to

drive.

>> Speaker C: Yeah, whatever.

>> Speaker A: Forget how to walk.

>> Speaker C: You.

>> Speaker A: You're wired in.

>> Speaker B: It's good.

>> Speaker A: It's great.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. But it's been a lot of work to get to this point, so I'm excited

to see what the outcome is tomorrow. Hopefully it's positive.

How the hell was your weekend, Buddha?

>> Speaker A: Oh, man. Did a little, venture, down into

Washington, DC. Caught a

nice rock show concert there Saturday night. But

more importantly, one thing I've realized is that

I don't care if you're left, if you're right, if you're center,

whatever you are. The

fact of the matter is this, when you go into DC, it's like a

melting pot. You see people of different

ethnicities. The food's

phenomenal. But one of the saddest

things for me is seeing all these homeless people, man. I

mean, it's not so much that I'm sad about it,

but I had this guy start yelling. He was

talking to no one. he's talking to himself, yelling. And

I come around the corner and he catches me off guard and he's

screaming to himself. But I felt like he was

screaming at me. And I'm like. And I just keep

walking. But great weekend.

No golf. Golf courses look, look great. Drove

past Chevy Chase country club

over there. You know, I played a congressional. Who played

there?

>> Speaker B: I played there. Us junior.

>> Speaker A: Did you?

>> Speaker B: US junior in 2003. Chevy Chase

Country Club.

>> Speaker C: Good spot.

>> Speaker B: Brian Harmon won that, us junior that year in

2003. So, But, yeah,

it was fun. It's beautiful spot. Small range there.

So, yeah.

>> Speaker A: So over the last couple weeks, Jason, birdies, we had

our two man event at Nemekolan

Resort, which you guys have followed along. We talked about

this at length now and officially it's

over. And let's do a little

recap of.

>> Speaker B: That today real quick because I don't want Jim or

Dan or Andrew thinking that we parted ways. But

today's episode is still brought to you by redvanley.

So go to redvanley.com. check them out.

Everybody loved the gifts. I know people have been going

online buying more swags. That's good. Daddy texted

me the other day for a code. I said, bud, I don't have a code.

Beat it. He said, I don't like paying retail. Like

he's, well, bud, you're paying retail. So there you go.

So he had to go buy shorts at retail. We

legit don't have a code.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: but, yeah, it was, it was, it was a great event.

And thank, you to red Van Lee. Thank you to solid

optics. And thank you to

code by Gentry. for

everybody supported that event. It was awesome. For those of

you don't know code by Gentry, today's guest,

Gentry Humphrey, played in the

event. VP of Jordan golf right

now and he has an incredible shoe

line. That, dude, I bought a pair. You bought a pair? Daddy bought a

pair. They're really comfortable and I can't wait to be able to wear

both on each foot. each foot. So make sure you go

over to code by gentry.com to check them out.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

So the event, though, kicked off with the pairings.

>> Speaker C: Party.

>> Speaker A: Great. Food was phenomenal. We picked out all

the teams. I got paired up with Jason doll,

you got paired up with the cart because you couldn't play. Actually got paired up

with. Pshap. But first

night, everyone's feeling good. Hit the course

thinking, you know what's going to be low today. Seven, eight

under.

>> Speaker C: Wrong.

>> Speaker A: Twelve under. Day one, John Barry and Eddie Ayman.

Twelve under on Mystic M Rock.

>> Speaker B: And that was with a bogey, too, dude.

So that's pretty

impressive. so they actually took the

$1,000 load. Low

day team.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And, there were four skins on either side, the net and the

gross. I know that each skin paid out 500.

So that was exciting.

>> Speaker A: And then, day two, no one. People kind of felt a

little deflated. Steve Perry laid in bed all night. Apparently he got

sick, couldn't even come out of the room. No one saw

him. He had some case of the I don't know,

hay flu or something. I don't know what the hell he had.

>> Speaker B: Only person not to get into the

skins on day two. And listen, he can say I was sick. I didn't

know. Dude, you're there. If you're gonna play, you might as well do it,

because he stuffed one on the par three,

made birdie. Somebody else made birdie.

And guess what? There was a skin now that would have been cut.

So, Steve Piering, you're the one who

didn't get in the skins because your tummy hurt. Your little

tummy hurt.

>> Speaker A: Well, you couldn't. It was like the flu game, basically.

But regardless, John Barry and Eddie, amen.

Congratulations on winning. I think they shot

17 under.

>> Speaker B: 17 under. John Barry. The money

payouts was John Barry and Eddie Amen in first. Then

we had a three way tie for second, which,

Jared Taylor and Jeff OGM. Yo,

Jim. I'm saying it wrong. Jeff. I'm sorry,

bud, but get an easier last name. my man

from the north of the border came in

second. And then, Wiz and Michael

George, finished in a third payout money.

And then my brother in law and Ek,

they lost not only in second place, they lost third place, and they

finished fourth, which means they did not get in the

money.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, and, you know, Brian, he was sitting there. He looked a little

somber at the time. And then I told Wiz they got bumped out

of it, too. Kind of kidding him a lot. And he was

all disheveled there for a minute. What are you talking about? I was. We were

13 under.

>> Speaker B: What?

>> Speaker A: Well, you know what? That's what happens

in this game of golf. And it

was great, man.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, good job to you, bud. I know it's tough to play in

your own event.

>> Speaker A: And good job to you.

Yeah, good job to you. All right, and we'll.

>> Speaker B: And great job to Nemekolin. The golf

courses were incredible. the staff was incredible. The

food was out of this world. not too many people got

in trouble, in the cigar bar.

So everybody stayed to Nemicolon. it was

a great few days. Thank you. To the participants. There were

40 guys and, dude, frickin

JB and Eddie. Amen.

Walked away after load team each day. And

winners, ten k. So five k each

in the pot for their. In their pockets.

now bass gonna make fun of me. But, dude, as you saw,

we had to get on booking it for next year already because dates were already

booked. I mean, we're just gonna say the dates right now. We

won't circle back around until probably February,

next year. But those of you that

want to play or have played

July 27 to July

29, 2025 at Neme

colon.

>> Speaker A: Yep.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Boom.

>> Speaker A: and let's now. That was great, by the way. You

just took up a couple minutes there, explained everything.

I liked it. But

we do have this episode sitting here waiting and there's a YouTube

video out there. Check it out on YouTube, our YouTube

channel. Gentry Humphrey, thank you again

for coming over here and seeing us in person at

nemacolanhe. Really, really awesome guy.

And I hope you guys like the episode here

on Chase and birdies.

>> Speaker B: It's gonna be, it's an exciting episode. all

of us have a pair of the Jordans.

He probably designed them. Let's roll it into there so you can

get his insight on how he designs them.

Code by Gentry and his golf game. Love for the

game of golf.

>> Speaker C: All right, we're back this week on Chase and birdies for

another in person interview. And today's

guest is a special guest and can't be, be more grateful for you,

Gentry, coming in here from the west coast.

Gentry Humphrey is joining us here today on chasing birdies

and businessman, entrepreneur,

works closely with Michael Jordan, for the

Jordan golf brand and also started a shoe line

code by Gentry. Really,

cool. You know, even in a short period of time just getting

to know you. I mean, the vibe's awesome. You're really a really good

human being. And thank you for coming on

today's show of Jason birdies and it

has.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Been a pleasure and an honor,

just to meet so many good people, just

to see how you guys flow, is

tremendous. You know, a lot of times when you're out in this

world there's so many things that you, can be

doing and to be blessed to play

the game of golf and to be in a position

to, just have that build

camaraderie with. Phenomenal. So thank you

guys for having me.

>> Speaker B: I gotta be honest. Whenever, you sent where you were flying from,

Ontario, ca, I'm like, my man's coming from

Ontario, Canada.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I travel a lot.

>> Speaker C: But he wouldn't be that I was.

>> Speaker B: Looking at Ontario, Canada flights. Boys.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. Ah.

>> Speaker B: And, it was Ontario, California. So

you're, you're kind of, you live in

California. You also live in

Las Vegas and then you sprinkle on a little Florida

time.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yes, quite a bit. And I, because of

my footwork company, I'm also in Vietnam quite a bit.

So I got a crazy travel sky.

I've logged in probably 120

something days of travel throughout the year, man.

>> Speaker C: And that wears you down.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Oh, yeah. It gets. It goes old fast. But, hey, I've been doing it for so

long.

>> Speaker B: It does get old fast. Everybody thinks it's the lifestyle. Like, it's

not.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Hotels and flights and food. That's the

main thing.

>> Speaker B: I mean, the flights, though,

you get delayed. You get delayed. Like, people don't

realize that's a whole day that you've just

lost in your travel. And you talk about flying somewhere to

Vietnam. Imagine you get stuck in Vietnam for another two days.

I think you want to see your wife.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Well, you know what's so funny, though, is

I have this crazy biological clock.

So, even when I'm at home, I always get up at for

the longest, especially before I retired, I would always

wake up between 419 and

421. No matter where I was in the world, I could

be in Japan on their time, go to bed

whenever and wake up between 419

and 421. It was the weirdest thing.

It was. Right. And then once I retired, it, you know, kind

of went away a little bit. But. But I still get up early every

day.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. I think it's good to get up early. That's a great

trait for humans, though, in general. Like, you

accomplish so much more in your day. Your

day feels longer, but it should. But you just get

so much more done. And I don't understand. I

personally, I can't sleep in. I just can't. I'm

not saying I get up at 419 or 421, but. But

by 530, I'm pretty much ready to roll.

Yeah. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: I'm a morning person. I love to just wake up, have a cup of

coffee. Nobody's downstairs. Answer your

emails.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Kids come down, see them for a little bit, and then

head to the office. It's like. It's just a routine. And you get yourself

in that routine. I go to bed, like, ten, 3011.

So he goes, 830.

So,

yeah, so, yeah, I mean, so to

your career. You. You worked for Nike for

30 plus years. And nowadays,

for people to stay at one, organization for

that long is. It's it's unheard

of.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: what got you into what

you did for Nike at that time, or how

did it get you?

>> Gentry Humphrey: How did I get there? well, you know, it's really interesting.

I am a huge basketball fan.

You know, you couldn't tell me coming out of high school. That I was

not gonna be the next bud web. Like,

I was that guy.

didn't get any major division one offers coming out

of high school, so I ended up going to,

I had a bunch of division twos, but I was like, I can't get to the league from

division two. So I, ended up going to

junior college and started, to

play there. And that summer coach ended

up recruiting, this huge guy

who, ultimately ended up being where we

went. We changed our entire offense to go around this

guy. So instead of a run and gun

offense that the team had shoot the three, we

would walk the ball up court, throw it in the big

and let him go for 40 every game. So I was like,

okay, you weren't the big. No, I was not the big.

So I was like, I better get a new, a new

hobby and a new career path. And so,

I was always into kind of the fashion world.

And I ended up working for Nordstrom, the retailer.

>> Speaker C: Oh, yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And, my parents had always told me, like,

whatever you do, you be the best that you can be and everything will

take care of itself. So I just took that mentality. I started

as a stock person. You walked into

my section of the stock room. It looked like wallpaper was so

perfect. they ended up,

moving me up to a sales position. I became the number one

salesperson. That led me to be

a buyer for the store. so I became the number one

buyer. did a lot of things, changed the whole

format, brought the, introduced the athletic

format footwear for Nordstrom.

And, ah, Nike came to me at that point. They

recruited me from there. And then from there was,

you know, I did a lot of things in Jordan, Nike, basketball. But

then myself and three other

gentlemen went to Phil Knight's office to

start, that asked him to start the Jordan

brand.

>> Speaker B: So real quick.

So when you were a buyer with Nordstrom, you

were obviously buying off of Nike.

and you developed a relationship there

with Nike's, you know,

seller. What do you

feel like was the reason that Nike came to you

and was like, you're our guy?

>> Gentry Humphrey: You know, it was pretty, it's kind of easy because I

was, I'm such a basketball

guy. they would come in and I would do

just really weird things that people were

unheard of. But it led to success in the

business and the rep that would come in who

actually ultimately ended up being the president at one time.

But he had come in and,

he would sit down and show me the line. And I already knew

about the line before he even pulled things out. I'm like,

hey, you left out whatever. Whatever. He's like, dang, this guy

would, you know, but then, as a buyer, you only had

so many dollars to buy, you know, the

product that you're bringing in. And so

I would do just crazy things. So, like, there one time, we

had this basketball shoe that, they

were introducing in a limited collection, and it had these

crazy neon colors that I thought were really cool, but

I had used up most of my open to buy spend to get them,

so I wanted to have a great presentation on the

floor. So I took one colorway, bought them all in

half sizes. The other colorway bought them all in whole

sizes, knowing that consumers, if they love them that

much, they'll rock a half pair up or down,

right? They didn't have their exact size, but the

presentation was immaculate. And then, you know,

folks. So just doing unconventional things.

>> Speaker C: Yes.

>> Speaker B: That's interesting to take that.

They'll buy it regardless, even if it's a little bigger, a little smaller to

get it.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, they like it.

>> Gentry Humphrey: yeah, that's pretty. If it's

hot. Hey, two socks,

take the sock liner out. If it's too tight, you know, there's ways to

get around it if you like it that much.

>> Speaker C: I definitely have that, situation

happening sometimes because there are

shoes that I can. These might even be, I don't know what

size these are specifically, but these are eight and a halfs.

But there are some shoes that I can only get a nine,

and I can squeeze into a nine. It's not like it's that big, but

other times, if it's. If I have to have an eight

and a half, it's like, well, shoot, I can only get an eight.

Now, that becomes a little bit of a tougher, tougher

things. But going up a half sometimes, you know, and it makes.

It makes me feel a little better. I mean, you know, five, six, I'm rocking a

nine. Like, let's go. You know what I'm saying? I

like that, and I know you like that, too.

So the not to over jump the

Nordstrom side of things, but you go to this meeting with Phil Knight,

which, you know, obviously, he has

become a magnet in the world of business, and

specifically Nike, for the sake of that. But

I mean, what, what's that conversation

like?

>> Gentry Humphrey: You know what? That

man is so smart.

how he's built the empire that it is, is

incredible, but he's just super sharp. The.

The first thing that he said, we're getting ready to walk into the

mediaev. The first thing he asked, he goes, well,

I guess it was a good ride, wasn't it? Because Michael had retired

when we started to do the pitch. and so

we, he was, he had left the game. And so he's like, I guess it was a

good ride. You know, we rode this thing out and I was like. And

we had already built a plan saying, like, yo, there's so

much equity in this logo. We can ride this

thing a lot further than what, you know, what people

think. And so he said, I guess it was a good ride. And

when he said that, I was like, man, he just

doesn't believe in it. I'm like, no. I'm like, this

thing's not over. And so he said, okay, well,

let's hear what you got. So we sat down, we did the

presentation, and we walked out of there

and he was like, let's do it, you know, make this

Jordan brand a true brand. And, you know,

we, I mean, we had a lot going for us. You

know, the brand itself

was blowing up. You know, obviously,

you got the perfect storm when you have an

icon. You know, when you think about how Nike started,

you know, you had two guys put

$1,500 together and

basically poured rubber into a waffle iron,

adhered it to a simple textile,

upper, and it became a running shoe. And they sold shoes out of

the back of their car. Well, that's how Nike

became, you know, what they were. Now

you fast forward and you have

a billion dollar empire in

Nike who now has a

man with a logo that represents the man

and the symbol of excellence in all that Michael did

with that billion dollar company backing it

versus $1,500 backing it.

And the opportunity for success is

real. And so that's ultimately how we were able to

parlay it into a huge, business.

>> Speaker B: Today, you and I had this conversation over lunch, and

it's, it's so true because my seven year old

son loves Jordan. And I told

you this story. a friend of ours,

Facetiming and Wayne Gretzky got on the, on the, on the

FaceTime. And my son said, who's that? And I'm sitting there thinking

he's the greatest hockey player of all time. What are you talking about? Who's that?

But my son has never

watched Michael Jordan play basketball.

He knows the logo and he associates

that. And my son could tell you who Michael

Jordan is because of that. And my

point in that is that, like, think of that. He's

seven years old.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, right.

>> Speaker B: 20 some years away from watching Michael Jordan play. But he loves

Michael Jordan.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And my point to that is that Wayne Gretzky doesn't have a brand.

A brand that he's selling out there. He is a brand. He's

an incredible brand.

>> Gentry Humphrey: But, yeah. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: My point is, is that my son knows who Michael Jordan is because of the brand.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And that's huge.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it is. It's, you know,

it's, it's been a cultural,

phenomenon, to be honest with you.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. When that movie came out a couple years

ago with Matt Damon and,

like, you're. Because you were

in the know on everything, like, is that

legitimate? Like, is that. Is there embellishment at

all?

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: That, in all honesty. Well, first of all, let me say

this. I actually thought the movie was pretty

entertaining.

>> Speaker C: Yeah, it definitely was entertaining.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I think what people need to

realize, though, is it was a movie, not

a documentary.

>> Speaker B: Right?

>> Speaker B: Right.

>> Gentry Humphrey: You know, so, so a movie, you get,

you got to build in, you know, plots and.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And all that. M so being there,

it might have been 50% accurate.

>> Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: and so, you know, so, so there's a lot

of things that. That I saw that I was like, oh. Didn't happen that

way. But I truly respected

kind of it for what it was.

>> Speaker C: Yes.

>> Gentry Humphrey: For how it was supposed to be an entertainment tanning

movie. And I think for the most part, you know, it got. The tough part

is that a lot of people don't realize it, that

it wasn't a true documentary. So they take all

that for the gospel truth.

>> Speaker C: And it's not just that.

Yeah. Yeah. The.

The campus is impressive. Peering took me out there. Steve. You met

Steve here in our tournament. He used to work for Nike. Nike

back in the day. And he took me there and, and I was

standing in the lobby of one of the buildings. He had a nice pair of

Cole Han Nikes on. And I'm drinking a cup of coffee,

and they're like blue suede. And knocked the coffee right out of

my hand onto his shoes. Ruined them.

He's standing there looking at me. I'm like, sorry.

>> Speaker A: Sorry, bud.

>> Speaker C: Can't get those. Those are one offs, I guess.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Canvas is pretty special.

>> Speaker B: So what, so you're saying when

Michael was retiring, so that was what, 95?

96 when that was the first time.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And then obviously.

>> Speaker B: Okay, so, so you go in there and you're. This

is, our plan. Let's roll with it. Is that something

that you guys take to Michael and say, hey, are

you good with this? Or is it more of a business

transaction? That he's going to benefit from anyways.

>> Gentry Humphrey: A little bit of both. So

the funny thing is, so his

first contract, so he signed in, 85.

The very first contract, was

needed, to be renewed in 88,

89. And,

at the time,

the businesses just started to flourish,

did something that was completely different in the industry. I mean, who

would have thought that something as simple as

color could be irreverent and

innovative at the time? Because all basketball shoes were

like white and gray, white and blue, white and blue.

They were just basic air Jordan one comes in and

it's just color that made a huge impact in

a statement. Then we started building

first mid cut, which was AJ three,

and we just started doing things a little bit different. So we started to

establish ourselves, but we were, we had

to renew Michael's contract. And part of the pitch

in making sure that the brand kept him was,

hey, you know, one day this could go beyond

just a shoe. You know, be

potentially another brand. Now, in all

actuality, the conversation was like, okay, yeah,

if we get there, then we get there. But this is a good part of the

pitch that could help land this guy to make sure he

stays. And then you fast forward to

98, and that comes to life. Like

part of the pitch. You built up a ton of equity in the

logo. You built a huge business.

Quite honestly, got scared to death the first time that he

retired because kind of got caught with our pants down. You know,

he didn't even really let us know, and we're like, oh, shoot,

we've had a nice business here, now it's gone. Like, what are we

gonna do? But that was a great lesson to learn,

so that when the time did come for him

to retire, we can start to plan for it

and build a business around it. So

when that time came, it was easy to pitch the

business. And we did go to Michael prior to, to

say, hey, look, we told you back in

88, it's time to make that happen. And

he, of course, he was excited about it because it meant

broadening the scope of the business. You know, going from one

shoe to multiple shoes, going to, you know, an

apparel line that was a little bit more

substantial.

athletes, bringing new athletes into the fold, carry

the torch on.

>> Speaker B: So you talk about, new athletes, and one of my

favorite all time athletes, was

Allen Iverson. And I

loved Allen Iverson at Georgetown. He wore those

patent leather, black AJ

eleven s with the white leather and the black

patent leather. Was there ever a point that

you guys are like, this is our guy like, this is the next

guy.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Hey, so I'll

never forget, we were, We had done a shoe. I

mean, Allen was such a great, he

was a. First of all, he's a phenomenal athlete. I think he

gets short sighted in the conversation of

great, great basketball players. I mean,

pound for pound, inch for inch, he

could be one of the best.

>> Speaker B: He was a dog.

>> Gentry Humphrey: He's a beast. and he was so

exciting. He, one might argue he was kind of

like the Michael Jordan of

division one basketball at that time.

so to have him and have the team in Georgetown

rocking the product that we had created was

phenomenal because if you look at

his generation and how he was

basically representing the hip hop era, like,

it was a perfect way to transition

the brand. So having him in the.

In the product at Georgetown was huge. And, you

know, his nickname was Bubba Chuck. And we used to

have, we created this shoe that was a spinoff of the air

Jordan eleven called a bubba Chuck. And so

we went in and pitched him on this shoe at the

time. And, ultimately, the shoe was

dope. We didn't end up, he actually ended up obviously

going to Reebok. The money kind

of took him that way sometimes. Yeah.

Although I still think long term, what we could

have done with him, I think could have been

huge, but who knows? but

yeah. so we ended up losing him

to Reebok. But I think, you know,

back then, what was so great about the brand,

like, when our backs were against the

wall, like, you had to watch out because we were going to

come out swinging. So we might have lost out on a good

one, but, it just made us stronger to kind of

create hotter stuff and go after the next

guy and continue to do what we do.

>> Speaker B: You told me a hilarious story about your

first meeting.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: with Michael Jordan. And,

you feel like that that's part of the reason why you guys

are so tight right now is. Is because, you know,

we. We had conversations about not

putting these people on pedestals. They don't want

that. And when you treat them and you give them a

little bit, they. All right, I could roll with

you on that. So your, first

meeting with Michael Jordan.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it was crazy. So, you

know, in my

opinion, he is the greatest to ever

play the game. and so

when I was. When I was,

put to the task of, presenting

the, you know, his brand to him and taking lead

on it, the first meeting that we had, he

used to do a basketball camp in, Santa Barbara.

California for kids. And it was an overnight

camp. Kids would come and he'd do his whole

thing. And so they stayed at this

hotel. And back then, you know,

computers were like, they weighed,

blocky, hundreds of pounds, you know. And then we had all

these samples that I was going to show Michael so that he could see

the line that we had created in the whole

nine. And so he says,

hey, meet me at the hotel.

And, here's where I'll be. So

I'm all excited. I'm like, okay. Hang out with the

man. Make this happen. I'm like, I'm gonna

get there early. Presentation's gonna be dialed. I'm gonna

be straight. So I get there about 30 minutes early.

I call him and say, hey, I'm here. Where do I need to

go? So he gives me, this

direction, or tells me to go to this particular spot.

So it's hot. And this

hotel, huge. So

I'm traipsing across the entire

hotel, and

trying to find, go to the spot where he was.

Got this heavy computer, got all these samples. I'm

sweating because it's hot in the summer. And I get to

this spot, and he's not.

I'm looking around like, what the hell? Hey, Michael.

Like, I'm here, but

nobody's here. He goes, oh, my bad,

dog. My bad. He goes, we had to bounce. We had

to go do this, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, he goes, meet us over this

spot. So I'm like, okay, that spot

is on the other side of the hotel.

Here we go. So now I'm starting to get kind of hot

because I'm traipsing this stuff all

across. It's sweaty. I'm now

late, and I pride myself on being on time.

And, so I was like, dang. So I get

there. Nobody there. No.

I'm like, michael. I'm

like, hey, dude, I'm here. Like, what's up? I

mean, you did say this spot, right? He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. He

goes, you know what, though? Again, we had to

move. I was like, are you serious?

So gives me another spot. So I'm going all the way

back over to where we were the first time, zigzagging.

Yeah, now I'm hot.

>> Speaker C: Yeah, now you're just living.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I'm like, okay, I'm sweaty. Like, what

the hell? So get to the

spot. Knock on the door. One of

his boys answers the door, and he. I

could see him in the background. He was playing cards with some of his

buddies. And he opens the door,

doesn't say hi, doesn't say. He says, it's about

time, you short shit.

And I said, if you're asking, give some damn directions. I might have

been on time. Fell out laughing.

He thought it was hilarious, and I was still kind of hot.

>> Speaker C: Yeah, you're still. I'm like, look.

>> Speaker B: You're like, no, but seriously.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And he was, he thought it was the funniest thing ever.

Well, what I didn't know is that was

his way. Like, he wanted to know

if I was gonna be a guy that was gonna be a

yes man, if I was going to be that guy that was going to

say, oh, Michael, you know, I'm sorry. I would have been here on time

if, da da da da. because he gets that all

the time. And I didn't know this, but

because I was ticked off, I popped off right back at

him. And he thought that that was the

best thing ever. He's like, this is a guy that I can roll

with. And so, from that minute

on, we ended up building a relationship that,

you know, that it is what it is today.

and it's just, you know, I just, you

know, I have never really been afraid to

tell him how I feel about certain things. And the

crazy thing is, is a lot of the stuff

that we talk about, we almost finish each other's sentences, especially

when it comes to product creation and stuff. So we've built

a relationship, of over 30 years, and we've had,

you know, we've had so much to

talk about in the creative space and how we do things

that we think a lot of, like, about a lot of stuff.

>> Speaker C: Well, and, you know, for you,

being the type of guy that you are,

driven, entrepreneurial,

now you get thrown in this nucleus, this world, a little bit

of his world.

and from the basketball, you

see this thing change. You know, there's been a couple guys

in the, and Ali moved the needle, Tiger

moved the needle, Jordan moves the needle,

and you pivot off that basketball. And now, next thing you

know, this whole world of golf comes into play.

I mean, not only does he have a golf course, but the

Jordan brand now is, in some respects,

synonymous with golf. So

for you, as a visionary, being the guy that you are,

you know, what's your forecast or future look like

to grow that brand even further into

the game of golf?

>> Speaker B: I think the cool thing about this whole, the golf

portion of it is, is that you retired from

Nike. He started code by Gentry.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And Jordan specifically is saying, I want my guy

to run the golf side. I think that's so

neat that, like, that shows your

relationship trusting.

>> Speaker A: Well, it's so.

>> Speaker C: And that's a good pivot because, you know, I was going to ask you about your

brand, naturally, as I mentioned earlier, code by

Gentry.

So kind of a two part thing to just kind

of harp on a little bit, you know, your brand specifically. And then,

you know, what, you see the future for the golf business with respect to

the Jordan brand.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. So, first off, you know,

again, to your point, it was, I

was honored in a way, you know, because when I made

the decision to retire from the brand,

I just, I really wanted to do some things

that, in my opinion, is

about paying it forward to the next level of

creative talent that's out there. So, you

know, when I was knee deep into running

the Jordan business, we would do collaborations

with, you know, known designers and artists

and, you know, fashion folks.

and what I noticed is, was that, we would talk

to a lot of people and people that were well known, but

the reality of it is the creativity that a lot of those

folks were bringing weren't as strong as some of

these unknown folks that were out there. And

so when it was time for me to start what

I was going to do with my own brand, that was the impetus for

me to do something different, was to look at

these other, entities that are out there that we never,

ever get a shot at doing a collaboration,

and try to make some things happen on the golf side

folks like the east side golf.

>> Speaker C: Oh, yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So those guys, they came, I met them through Chris

Paul and Chris Paul's brother, CJ. And

I felt like, it was a great opportunity to

give some young gentlemen who had, a

business moxie to them, who had a lot of

the similar thinkings that we thought about the Jordan

brand, trying to evolve it to just not just a

performance brand, but to a lifestyle brand as well.

And so those guys were doing some things. And so I sat down with

MJDe and said, hey, look, it'd be great to kind of give

these guys a, leg up and get them started.

And then we knew we were going to start the Jordan golf

version, but we wanted to give them an opportunity up first.

So those types of things started to happen with the Jordan brand. But then

when I did my brand, I did it in a whole different way. And I'll

tell you about that later. But, but, yeah, so, so the,

the. In starting it, and where

I sat down with Michael, he basically

said when I told him I was going to retire, he's like, well, if

through your consulting firm, if we can work it out,

where you run with Jordan golf

and take it to the next level, are you

in? And so we talked about what it could mean, what it could

be. And of course, I love golf. I

love the brand. he trusted me with the brand

because at one point in my career, I left,

the Jordan group. I went to work on the Nike side.

I did some things in the Nike sportswear side and

helped build that air force one business, backup and

phone posits and all that. Then I moved over to

Nike golf. And because Michael had

interest in golf at that time,

but no one on the Jordan side really knew

anything about golf, he said, gee, why don't

you run golf, Jordan

golf, through the Nike side while I was over there?

And so, I started that. I kicked that off. And so we started.

That's when you started to see some of the projects start to

come to retail. We did it in small. We started off in. Michael

was a part of 50 greengrass

country clubs. We started in those, gave them an

opportunity to buy them, and then it started

to blow up from there. But when he

came to me after I retired and basically said,

would you want to do this? it

was a no brainer for me just because of my love for both the game

and the brand. And so we talked about

the vision of what it could be.

And then I fell in love with it

even more because we have a very

different position than most girlfriends.

I was at the PGA show last year,

and, man, if I saw another flower shirt, I might have thrown up,

so many flower shirts out there and so many different companies

out there that were doing apparel, but no one really

had, like, a true standout

position, that would separate them from everyone

else. So we talked about what the apparel is going

to be. We've already done some things with the footwear.

introduced a retro, you know, spike version of

that, which is obviously no brainers. Introduced a

shoe called the ADG, which stands for all the golf,

which is more of a classic type silhouette that allows

folks who aren't really into going retro route to do

something a little bit classic. And then

next year, you're going to see a crazy shoe. We

built a shoe, truly from an innovative standpoint,

that actually it is tested

and is proven, by professional athletes as

well as up and coming young, superstars at the college

level to actually increase club head speed,

which obviously leads to a little more distance.

>> Speaker C: I thought, ah, you were gonna say height.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Hey, we both could use that.

>> Speaker C: No, this is my chance.

>> Speaker B: No, you'll be wearing nines and looking taller, but, yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So, yeah, so there's swing speed. Yeah.

So it actually works on

stability and, rotational

torque. And it's proven. And it

gives you, more clubhead speed and

so adds to more distance. So,

so, and that, that's on the footwear side and then on the peril side.

Like, I think people will be blown away when we launch

what we're going to do on the, peril side.

>> Speaker B: That's what I'm, I'm, I'm kind of itching to

see that Jordan

golf, apparel side of things,

pop off because their stuff.

But I think there's gonna be a lot more.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And, that's exciting for you guys as a company, as

a brand, because Jordan is not just a

basketball brand, it's a lifestyle

brand. And people's lifestyles are on the

golf course. And I know that you guys even did a Roger

federer tennis, shoe.

and so you guys can go any which way and

guess what? People are gonna listen when you talk.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Well, and the great thing is, it's

authentic, you know, because Michael

plays 36 damn near every day.

>> Speaker B: Well, we can tell you our experience.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So, I mean, it's who he

is, you know, and it's his love. And so

we still ground everything that we do, you

know, in authentic MJ, as

well as the game.

>> Speaker C: I love that.

>> Speaker B: I want to get back into the golf thing because we're going to have so

much to talk about with golf. But

how did you come up when you left Nike,

you obviously sat there and you probably one day you're like, I'm so bored

right now. Right. And at some

point and code by Gentry

started, you obviously have a love for fashion

and, footwear.

How did this all start being in the

position you were in? Some people, like, what are you doing?

Enjoy the ride. But, like he said, you're an entrepreneur.

The itch is there.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny cause,

I used to say, man, I'm the most overworked, retired guy in

the world. And I've

quickly realized it wasn't really a retirement, it was more of a

transition. and so,

again, I hinted to it a little bit, like, for

me, honestly, like, what I've been,

known for is

bringing retro to the culture,

and we call it basketball culture, which usually

incorporates music,

art, fashion and sport. When

you bring those four things together, and you have a cultural

experience. Jordan has been

a huge part of that. And so me, you know, sitting

down and working on the first retrositive, you know, running

the business and making sure there was an opportunity to bring those back the

right way and tell new stories so that people could

appreciate those stories. That was the

past. after I

retired, someone reached out to me to do,

a book. And I was like, I'm not

really into doing a book. I'm like, especially if I

got to write it, I'm like, there's so much stuff that I

forgot that I. Right, yeah, I just can't.

And they said, well, to be honest with you, we don't even really.

We think the book is the second part they want to do.

So I signed it, actually signed a deal with Disney,

and they're doing a documentary. It's gonna come out next

year. so. And so

sick. Yeah. So there's that. That's gonna be pretty cool.

But the reason that I really wanted to

do it is because I want. I

feel like the legacy should move beyond

just bringing retros, introducing retros

to a culture. And that,

for me, means being able to pay it forward to

the next generation. And so, that

was the main reason I started my brand. So, for

instance, I used to sit down

with athletes, and, we

would find out what the athletes into. We go through his

closet, whether it's MJ or whoever.

Kevin Garnett, at one time, you know, all the athletes that I've

worked with in the past, and we would

try to take something from their life

and veneer it on a product, tell

an authentic story, and if you

veneer it correctly, you create something that's unique and

different, and it becomes a spark for people to

ask questions as to why you did what you did.

And so we would introduce that. We'd sell the product,

the athletes would get royalties against it,

and, company would make money. And so everybody was

good. Well, I was like, well, how

come that. Why can't that format work

for young creatives? So if I create my own

brand and I find these young

creatives that are out there, who will never probably have

a chance to start their own brands or might find

it difficult to start their own brands, I sit down,

do a collaboration with them. We built

my company, builds the product for him, we sell the

product for them, and we give them the

royalties the same way that a signature athlete would get

royalties in the sport world. So now that

that individual has a chance to, you know,

either start his own company or if she wants

to go to design school, they now

can use that as membership money to go to design school.

So that was a huge part of

why I wanted to start the brand. And, And I also thought that there

was just a. There was a niche, you know,

I love as much as I love the, Air force ones and Air

Jordan ones. With the world kind of transitioning,

like, all these young millennials were

moving into this space where, you know,

they. They have to be. They're graduating from school, they're going to

be young professionals, and they got to look

a little bit more professional. And so sometimes air

force ones and air Jordan ones, while everybody's wearing it

from a fashion standpoint with a sport coat, sometimes they

just don't really.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So if I could create a comfortable product that

truly worked that way, then to me,

that's the birth of what code is. And code is really

about meeting the dress code in

any environment. And so, And so that's why

I like.

>> Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, I was. That's what I was gonna. I didn't know if it was an

acronym for something or.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it's. We. What we like to do is

we feel like we can, give you the code to

any environment. So any of the shoes that. That

we create in our line, you'll see they had taken

on three different personalities. One, we can do it in an

all white version, and it'll look like a luxury

sneaker, but then we can do it in all

black, and we change the materials up on it, and

you can wear it with a tuxedo. You can dress

it up, same shoe. Then we do

Runway fashion show versions of them. So if

we want to, you know, guys going out with his girl

or going out into fashion, you

know, make, a statement, put spikes and crazy.

Yes, and crazy material. So that same shoe can take

on three different personalities, and that allows

that person to be dress for any of the

occasions. And so we're gonna look

to expand to women's, line,

probably early next year. We've got some new models

coming, later part of this year.

>> Speaker B: So I saw

them for the first time in person. I've obviously checked the site out, but

I. What you were saying, that's what I was thinking is that, like,

you can wear with a sport coat or you can wear with a nice t shirt,

or you, can wear it with a suit if you want to be a little fashion

forward. So that's really

cool. yeah, I gotta get you guys.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Some cause, comfort wise, you'll be blown away. Like,

I think that's been one of the biggest things. Like, people.

Well, I intentionally started

with knowing, the business I started

in a place where I know people,

they kind of, like, take for granted. So

the sock liner, what you stand on, you slide

into the shoe, and you literally stand on top of

most, people. What happens is you design a shoe and you

have these target margins that you want to make on this particular

product. You create it, you get the shoe back,

and nine times out of ten, it's

overpriced. So the first thing that most companies

do is take the sock liner out and put a cheap one

in, just because they know you got to stand on something.

But they don't pay really attention because they want

to make money. And people, they. They gravitate

towards what they see on the outside, not necessarily on

the inside. Well, I flipped it. I'm like, I'm

gonna start with a sock liner. I'm not gonna sacrifice

the sock liner, because I want people, when they stand on something,

I want them to, as soon as they put them on and be like,

wow, I can go all day in these. And

then I did simple things. Like, all of

them are done with this red leather top cloth, because I

want people to feel like they're walking on the red carpet whenever they're

wearing a pair of my shoes. So little storytelling,

little comfort stories that.

>> Speaker B: You know, like, you don't realize how much detail

and background goes into that. Like, you would never think that.

So it's interesting you say that maybe I'm wrong here,

and you can tell me I'm wrong. Probably. My, wife tells me

that I, feel like the AJ

one golf shoe sock

liner is more comfortable than the

AJ one street shoe.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Really? You know, it's so funny.

>> Speaker B: do you think that that's because of the bottom

on the golf shoe having a little more traction?

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, I think a little bit. A little bit there. we had

to construct that shoe a little bit different than the

inline street shoe, mainly because we had to make a

waterproof stability, too. Yeah. Had to

have it a little bit more stable. We actually, it

typically runs about a half size larger because of some of the

things that we had to do construction wise. So,

I think, you know, especially if people have a little bit wider

foot, they find that it's a little bit more comfortable.

again, if the people don't necessarily

have a wide foot, they usually take it down a half size. That's what we

talked about earlier. And then they're good. I've heard

it, and I've heard it both ways. Some people say, ah, these

aren't as comfortable as the inline ones. So.

So it goes both ways.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, that's, that's crazy. I mean, I don't know.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I just, but if you're, think about it, you're probably

walking around in those consistently a lot more

than you're walking around in a pair of, you know,

inline shoes. Like, you wear them for a little bit, you walk, you'll stop.

But you're 4 hours on a golf.

>> Speaker B: Course at one point. I did that.

>> Speaker C: Today was 5 hours.

>> Gentry Humphrey: You got stuck.

>> Speaker B: yeah, buddy, for you.

So let me say something, gentry. These?

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, yeah.

>> Speaker C: Watch yourself.

>> Speaker B: But the design on these.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yep.

>> Speaker B: I think this, this is one of my favorite aj ones that

you, you've done.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Thanks.

>> Speaker B: the double logo, patent leather.

I say stingray.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yep.

>> Speaker B: That's what it is, the stingray.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: It's just badass. So where

did the inspiration, where does gentry

flying on an airplane, come up

with this?

>> Gentry Humphrey: So, so what we try to do with, with,

what we try to do is every year we take the

majors and we try to create something

cool around the majors. And

this one was a, ah, story that was going to be around,

the masters. Now, if you know anything about

Augusta national, they are like the strictest

group folks to work with. You can't do anything that

if you can do something that's, you know, in those colorways,

they're trying to get a piece or

fight you on it or whatever. So for me, it was

about how do we tell stories? And so

we like to do things with the folks on the Nike side

to help stories, come

to life in somewhat of a collaborative

way. so the story that

Nike was working on, on their side

for the particular masters was

this, story called metamorphosis.

And so they had created their version of what

metamorphosis was. And so

I said, okay, well, what I'd like to do is create

our version of metamorphosis. And how it's going to come to

play is allowing people to

appreciate the past

as the past metamorphosizes into the

future. So what I did

was I took the other shoe, that's the complimentary shoe to

that, which is an air Jordan nine.

And if you think about the traditions

of golf and you look at how

far the history goes, and if you ever been to Augusta national, you'll

see that they store all the

players, old clubs, and all that

stuff, at the on the facility.

Well, if you look at some of those clubs, they were

all made out of, wood.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So you had hickory, you had ash, you had all these

different woods that made up the other shoes that made

up, those, those, those, clubs.

So I sat down and talked to these

guys that, are well known, couple guys from a,

company called happy life. And they're

really good group of guys. They do, wood carvings. They

love the Jordan brand, and they don't stain

the woods that they create. They find these natural

woods that actually become the same color

as the actual item. So if you did air

Jordan Chicago color, they would find a wood

that is that exact colorway.

>> Speaker C: Wow.

>> Gentry Humphrey: and sculpt it into that. And so we sat down and started

talking and vibing. Had a great vibe. And so they

built, they worked with me on. On

a design of a shoe that was actually.

If it were to be made out of wood, what would it look

like? So the other shoe, the AJ nine, was that

brown one.

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Saw the brown one.

>> Speaker B: Yep. It's like, mimics.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it mimics the wood.

>> Speaker B: Looks wood.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it looks like wood. And we had a lot of, you know, a lot of

details to it, to the soul, to the sock

liner. You see all these, you know, wood carvings, the grain,

all that stuff. So that represented the traditions of

the game. Now the metamorphosis, or the

future, was going to be moving people

into a new state, a state that is more

athletic, but yet a little more

sophisticated and a little more

futuristic. And that's how this AJ one came about,

is just taking a sneaker

approach that can be worn on the course or

off the course. Bringing into the

future, you get the iridescent, you know, double

swoosh. You get stingray material.

>> Speaker B: Love this.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. So I love that in the future.

>> Speaker B: I love that one shoe.

>> Speaker C: Those are really. Honest to God, I'm not.

>> Speaker B: There's a bad for a left

shoe, and I only had to pack one.

>> Speaker C: A guy's about to metamorphose into his,

his new golf game with two, plates and

a couple screws for the first time. How long did it take you to save

up for those, bud?

>> Speaker B: So I'm going to tell a cool story about

the AJ nine, the Pinehurst edition.

I ordered them because I wanted a nice white with

gray shoe. And so I get

them. I order them, I get them, and I'm like. And I opened the

box. There's this little thing in there. Little.

>> Gentry Humphrey: It's like a card. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And it tells the story of the shoe.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Which I thought was really cool, because, I mean, most people probably didn't read it,

but I'm a nerd, and I read it, and it basically was

talking about the tobacco road of Pinehurst.

Well, you know, with my family being living in Pinehurst in

a few months. Not my family, my mom and dad.

but I'm like, I need these. And I start

reading it. I'm, like, looking at the shoe. I'm like,

that looks like a damn cigar. Bandaid on the tongue. I'm

like, oh, my God, the shoelaces, they have, like,

matches on the end of it. And I'm like. I

text him. I said, but I said, I just got the

nineties. I said, these are my favorite shoes. I ordered

two pairs, boys. Because whenever they

go away, like, shoe for me, because

I genuinely love a cigar. And for me,

yeah, it's incredible.

It's perfect for me. Right? And, like, that. It's so

cool to me that there's that story about

Pinehurst, and there's so.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Many, like, little gems that people

may not have. Even you might have been caught. So. So

again, with that story, I basically was sitting down

with MJ M, and I said, hey, you've played there. I was like, what's

the first thing you think of about playing there he goes.

Tabletop greens. He's, like, some of the

hardest greens in the world to hit. And so then

we started talking about, okay, when you drive

from North Carolina to

Pinehurst, what route do you take?

And so he told me the route that he takes. And then I said,

well, what's. What's the best score you ever shot there?

And he said, 74. So

when you talk about the road to get there, that was

the reason to do a white gray version, because the

gray was meant to represent asphalt. So you

see the texturing around the gray part of it

that represents asphalt.

>> Speaker B: I was wondering why that gray was like.

>> Gentry Humphrey: It's like, texture, the

asphalt. Then if you look on the back, you

know, you get those route 76

signs. It says route 74 to represent MJ's. M

74.

>> Speaker B: So let me ask you, before you point, I know you're pointing

out the little emblem on the back. Is that meant

to be a lit cigar end

with the red being red and brown on the front on the

top? So in the back, you got a little

emblem here that's red. It's the Jordan.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Oh, yeah. No, no. So that. That actually

is a part of the original shoe. So the

original shoe, the air Jordan nine, originally was

represented kind of the most global version

of all of the air Jordan collections. So on the original

one, you see. You see this globe on that one, we meant

to make it look like the dimples on a bass on

a golf ball. Oh.

>> Speaker B: To me, it looks like a, bird cigar. You're, like, smoking a

cigar.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it kind of does look like, but,

yeah, it was.

>> Speaker C: Those are the ones you have in the car.

>> Speaker B: Right yesterday.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Like, I gotta see.

>> Speaker A: I want to see.

>> Speaker C: Now that I know the story. Yeah, that's badass.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And so that's the

lace.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Is so, like, cool.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Literally, there's. There's small details on the lace ends that

you're like, why would I put the white laces on? I threw the white laces away

because what I don't need.

>> Speaker C: Yeah, no, I mean, that's. That's

genius. Brilliant.

>> Gentry Humphrey: But see, you know, but again,

when I. Part of my

creation process is to. Is to

tell original stories. And I tell this story to

young creatives. If you think about

when you go to a museum and you see a painting,

Picasso, when you see a

painting, you look at his

artwork, and you'll see these crazy geometric

shapes. Like, you know, geometric shapes all over. You

got dark areas, bright areas. You got eyeball over

here. Eyeball over. Like, just, you look at it like,

okay, what was this smoking?

>> Speaker B: You know?

>> Speaker C: Yeah. Where to get it.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. And it's worth millions, you know?

But then when you read the composition

that's next to the painting that talks about what Picasso

was going through, through in his life at that time, you start to

understand that there were a lot of dark times in his life.

And the eyeball sitting in that dark area is him being

able to have a vision of the light. And

now you start to see how that all comes in, and you're like,

damn. Okay. that thing looked crazy when I saw it, but now I

read the story behind it, and now it makes sense.

And so that's what I always try to do with

my team. And as we create products, I want to

build authentic story so that if you

don't like it, at least if you understand the

story behind it, you might learn to appreciate

why it is what it is.

>> Speaker C: Yes.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And most of the time, you. Most of the time, when

people understand the real story behind, they're like, I love this

even more. You know, I didn't like it. Now I do.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So.

>> Speaker B: So this, again, this is why our podcast is called

chasing birdies, because everybody's chasing birdies on the golf

course. Like, you guys did today, you guys. but

your whole story, even if you did not

golf, you're chasing Bernie. You're

always chasing to do the next best thing or whatever. I

don't care what you do, but for your last 40

years of you being an entrepreneur, you were chasing

birdies 100%. And so that's why this

is what we're doing.

And so now that we've gotten your

story, we need to talk golf, man. Like, and we need to

know your love of the game. When it started, did it. Did mj

m basically force you to play golf?

>> Gentry Humphrey: No, no, no.

>> Speaker B: Did you love the game before?

>> Gentry Humphrey: You know, it's funny. Like,

I think my dad actually tried to get me to play

it when I was probably about eight or nine years

old. And I was too into basketball

and too into football. And so I was like,

I can't do this. And then, but I, but

I, you know, I picked it up because I played

a lot of sports, and so I hit the ball, and,

you know, I had a decent swing at the time, but I was like, I

got other things to work on than this. And

then, really, it wasn't until after

college that I really started to play the

game a little bit more and really respect and

appreciate it. And, you know, just like you guys, you

know, you can go to a range and,

you know, shank the ball and hit a bunch of bad shots, but

when you hit that sweet spot, m there's

not a better feeling than, you know,

hitting it, right.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And so I got addicted, you

know, and the more I started to hit the

sweet spot a little more, and I became more and more

addicted to it. And so I started playing it

after college. And, you know,

what I, what I quickly learned is that.

And this happened for me, too,

with my father as he started to get older. We would

play every Saturday morning. And

where are you going to spend 4 hours of

quality time with, in.

>> Speaker C: That case, people you love.

>> Gentry Humphrey: But in other cases, great friends,

in some cases, folks that I've met for the first time,

that is, this trip has been phenomenal. And

so, typically on the golf

course, you're gonna meet good people.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I mean, every now. And you get some knuckleheads.

>> Speaker C: Every now and then you get a bad egg.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Yeah. But for the most part, yeah, you

meet great people, and so. And you learn a lot about

people, like, you know, the knuckleheads that

you learn real quick. Yeah. If they're cheating out there on the golf course, they're probably

cheating in life.

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: all those types of things, you know, you

learn real fast. Like, okay, so

I just fell in love with the game and,

everything that it's about. And honestly, like,

you're battling with yourself. Like, you're. Yeah, you will beat

your opponents, but at the end of the day, it's the

core. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: You versus course.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. Is you in the course? Are you against your head? Your own

head?

>> Speaker B: Oh, my God.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Trying to get out of your own head.

>> Speaker C: And I think golf, where it is

professionally, obviously has some. There's some hair on,

needs to be trimmed down a little bit. But from a leisure

perspective, I mean, what a lot of these guys that have

used their platform, for example, Steph Curry,

you know, these guys that are professionals

in other realms, but they've really grown. The game

of golf. I mean, they put it out there, and

what does that do? It attracts the youth. And if

it's. If the youth isn't interested,

then. Then we have no future. So.

Yeah, so in that perspective, I love

where the game is. it's. There's nothing like it, man.

So go play golf.

>> Speaker B: It's true, because, I mean, to be honest,

we met you for the first time, and we threw you into

a group of 38 guys. You had no clue. And you're probably

thinking, what the hell? Like, who are all these yo yos?

And everyone's having a great time,

everybody's getting along. It's not like we're saying, hey, you're going to go

shopping with this person over there. You're like, no, I'm not

golfing. You're like, let's do it.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And I mean, back to what he was saying. These other

athletes, 1520 years ago, athletes did

not golf. I'm not playing golf.

Back to our trip. We've, we've, you know, we'll get into the grove

23, which is the day we're there. You

think about the athletes that were there, scattered

throughout that, the different sports that they

played and the names that were there, how big they

were.

>> Speaker C: I mean, you had me. You had you.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.

>> Gentry Humphrey: But you don't get any better than

that.

>> Speaker B: But you look around, you're like, golf is

in really good position because of these. Look at all these people

from different backgrounds, different sports. They're here

playing off and the time of their life with their buddies.

>> Speaker C: Yep.

>> Gentry Humphrey: But, you know, we gotta

continue to evolve it because it's

such a traditional game that, you know, a

lot of folks, like, fight, you know, fight

to evolve it. And, you know, I give a lot of

these,

country clubs some credit because

they're under. They're realizing that, you know, some

of their old members are starting to move

on. Yeah. And in order to

stay relevant with a new

consumer that has disposable income,

you know, you got to be you. You got to move with the times. and

so that's kind of why the brand is actually,

you know, is in Jordan is trying to get

people to feel like they can

represent their authentic selves out on the course. They don't

have to, you know, be something that they're really not,

you know? And so you got athletes, to your point,

that those guys think about it

like, the game is so

difficult to master. When you're a professional

athlete, you're always in constant pursuit of

perfection.

And to master it is difficult in whatever

sport. So it's kind of natural for those guys

to get off of their field of play or

court of play and then evolve into

the game of golf, because now it's something

else for them to try to master and, you know,

shoot. We all know you can be banging the drive,

you know, one day and snap, hooking that mother the

next day, you know, or putting, whatever.

And so the constant pursuit of perfection, I think those

athletes, you know, really respect and

appreciate. Appreciate it for what it is.

>> Speaker B: It is. I mean, it's so much fun

to play the game of golf,

with your friends and be competitive and,

travel the world to play golf. I mean, you're in a

farmington, Pennsylvania. You never thought you're gonna be here.

But again, the game of golf,

we probably wouldn't be sitting here with you. So for

us, it's all because of golf.

>> Gentry Humphrey: That's right. That's right.

>> Speaker B: So.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And, you know, it is super global. I mean, I

was. Here's how crazy might

think I am, but I was, when I was working at Nike, we had

this thing that we called sabbaticals. And so we could

take up to, like, nine weeks off if you ran your

vacation in with it. In. And so I

ended one of my trips, in on a trip in

Asia at one of the factories. And I started

sabbatical at the end of that trip. And

there's a course in, Taiwan called

Mission Hills. And they have

1018 whole golf courses

in one facility.

1010. So my

goal was to play all ten of those

in three days.

>> Speaker C: So you.

>> Speaker B: You are Michael Jordan's buddy.

>> Speaker C: So, no, I knew how many holes was.

>> Speaker B: I'm saying it like that.

>> Speaker C: He can do that. How many can you get? In a day.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, it was crazy. And they. When I

got there, they had shut down, few of the

courses, I couldn't play all of them, but in three days,

I ended up getting in 108 holes.

And so. So I was in switch.

>> Speaker C: Well, you could if you. Yeah, if you were dyslexic, you

switch that eight and zero around you. Yeah. 180.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: 108. One eight.

>> Speaker B: Insane.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yes.

>> Speaker B: That's crazy, though.

>> Speaker C: I see those videos all the time of the. Of the Asia, in

Asia, the golf. And obviously the game's grown over

there. But I mean, they.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Have you ever played over?

>> Speaker C: Never.

>> Gentry Humphrey: If you go play in Japan, it is the craziest thing.

It is an all day event. Like, you go there, you play the front

nine, and then after the front nine, you're

probably spending at least 2

hours eating, talking, whatever, and then they just

go back, out.

>> Speaker C: I was like, I know that culture. That's one area I would

love to explore. I mean, I'm basically at

China wall in downtown Morgantown getting some takeout.

That's.

>> Gentry Humphrey: That's my.

>> Speaker C: So I need. But I do. I want to experience that real time. I want

to experience that.

>> Gentry Humphrey: It's great.

>> Speaker C: And no, I mean, you know, with. With the case of you,

for all the travel we discussed earlier, how much

travel you've done, I mean, certainly you're gonna be. Your

ears are gonna be open to saying, hey, where can I pick it up today? Where

can I get around?

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, I actually have a set of clubs

in Vietnam.

>> Speaker C: No way.

>> Gentry Humphrey: So if I can know, finish working on

my product line and. And go hit

them afterwards. I do.

>> Speaker C: So we. You obviously are Grove

23. Well, you play

there.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, I play there. But honestly, the guys that

are responsible, I have a really good friend who, the GM of there is a guy

named Kenwyan. He's phenomenal. And

obviously MJ M and him are really tight as well. So

those guys. I'm just blessed to be, you

know, with those guys and indulge in the game the

way. But those are the

guys that make that place tick.

>> Speaker C: Well, it in, it ticks. I mean, it's awesome.

>> Speaker B: But that's the thing that people don't realize. People probably

think MJ just shows up, plays golf.

>> Speaker C: Oh, he's on it. But I want to know when we

went where there, is the drone thing real

or is that fake?

>> Gentry Humphrey: The drone thing is real. It doesn't happen often. And it

happened more early on.

>> Speaker C: Okay.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Now, but, It has.

>> Speaker C: It has happened. That has happened.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Okay. Yeah, but that. But if. But

like if we ever go there and together and

we get a chance. But, like, I'd love to, like, walk you

around because again, the same way

that I tell these stories about the shoes, like,

that place is built the same exact way. Like

everything has a purpose and a meaning. Like

every painting, every, you know, piece of

architect, that's, you know, sketched out on the wall. Like

every single thing has a reason for

being there. And when you see it and you know the story behind it,

you really respect it and appreciate.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. modern architecture really interests me. And

that clubhouse is crazy. Is

ridiculous.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Did you notice how the elephant print on certain,

like, the. The elephant print

is. Is printed on a. A, glass,

overhang? And in the mornings

you don't. You won't see it reflect off the wall,

but at night, you see it reflect off a wall. In the

mornings, there's another, side that. Where the sun

hits and you'll see it reflect off of the concrete.

All of that stuff was very purposeful. And it's

just cool graphics that.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. I think I noticed on the outside of

the waterfall was there. Is that where one of

that light. And I was like, yeah. Like, Nick,

we were waiting for our uber.

>> Speaker B: Why don't you show us around, bud?

>> Gentry Humphrey: super cool. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Like, even, even the detailing there,

I noticed playing, you know, we put the

t markers. Six rings.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Six sets of tees.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Every color of tees is, you know, his.

His, Laney.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Chicago bulls color. Charlotte hornets colors.

UNC colors. Every detail is.

Every detail. There is a detail and everything.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. And they're used. So those six rings, like,

like you'll have a distance to the,

to the pen. And you have a distance

to the front of the green on those six rings too.

I don't know if you noticed that, but, yeah, it'll have sets.

And then. And then the other cool thing is, you know,

they can make that. You get a new scorecard

every single day. Scorecard changes every day.

>> Speaker B: That's a nick was telling us it's so cool.

>> Gentry Humphrey: They can move the tee boxes.

>> Speaker B: Never the same based on the wind.

>> Gentry Humphrey: And, and then it's built to where you can. You

know, if you literally wanted to play twelve holes,

you can still kind of end up like right

clubhouse or you won't play six holes. Yeah, it's

just.

>> Speaker C: It's strategically detail.

>> Speaker B: I love

1516 1718 there, you make it or

break it a, Gamblers four holes, 15 m

150 the middle of green. Where we played from. I don't know where we

played from. 150, the middle of green 16,

drivable par 417, reachable par

518, a dog.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Ah.

>> Speaker B: All of a sudden, you're playing. You're playing.

And then these four holes, you're like, this is where it can change

very quickly.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And I think that was done for a reason.

>> Speaker C: Well, I tell you this much, and I know we'll

wrap up here shortly because we are appreciative of your time,

but, you had yourself

a good little partner today. Our good buddy junior Hess. You're in a

chasing birdies two man event, and you're in the hunt right now.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Hey, I'll take that, man.

>> Speaker C: You're in the hunt.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Let's take it back. Yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that.

And this format, anything can happen in

amateur golf.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Four shots is like half a shot.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Really?

>> Speaker B: John Barry. Like, again, JB John

Barry. I don't know if he has to fight him for the last.

>> Speaker C: He looks like a peacock right now, walking around with his feathers

all.

Tomorrow's the day.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Hey, we're gonna give it a shot, man. We ham and

egg did really, really well today. so, hey, hopefully we

can do that tomorrow.

>> Speaker C: Well, I can't wait to peg it with you one day.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah, man.

>> Speaker C: And let's do it, man.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I love it. Like, again, as we talked about, this

is a, great friendship and

relationship that won't stop here, you

know? I mean, you guys have been so

hospitable. It's been amazing. And I

appreciate kind of you guys even just reaching out. Well,

hey, it was awesome.

>> Speaker C: We appreciate you, and I'm very welcome.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I appreciate you even responding.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Well, I'm glad because I don't really do a lot of my

social media stuff. I have a person who does all my stuff, and so when she

told me about it, I was like, let's look into

this.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I signed a message. I said, he's never gonna

answer, but whatever, it's fine. And 2

hours later, she's like, he's really interested. Can you email us

details? I'm like, yeah,

here we go. Yeah. And, like,

again, neme, they've been tremendous

this week. It's a special place here. It's a little.

I'm glad we've seen a slice of your heaven down in

Florida.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And this is a slice of our. Our heaven up here. That's very

special to both of us.

>> Gentry Humphrey: For real.

>> Speaker B: So for.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Hey, this. This place is special because we were

driving up. I ain't gonna lie. I was like,

where we got. No, I'm not sure about this. Yeah,

he's hyping this. This thing up. pretty good.

>> Speaker B: But you get here

phenomenal, and, honestly,

there's not much you can't do. Where we're going to the peak,

there's three pools. There's axe throwing. There's,

bowling, there's arcade. Don't worry. My son will just throw it on his

tab.

I told him last night, I said, parker's out there.

Everybody's bowling on Parker's tab.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. My man walked out of the bowling alley

to the pool with bowling shoes on. I'm like, but

take them off.

So our last segment of the show,

presented by betnardi Golf. Check him out

online@betnardi.com. phenomenal pedestrians.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Good. Those are good people, man. People.

>> Speaker C: this is a tap in segment. My man's gonna ask you four questions

that demand your quick response.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Okay.

>> Speaker C: It doesn't have to be quick.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. Okay.

>> Speaker C: I mean, questions.

>> Speaker B: All right, Gentry, what advice would you give yourself

as a kid?

>> Gentry Humphrey: I I would

say, make sure that

you continue to

strive to be the best that you can be in

anything that you choose to do. Know

that there's nothing that you can't do if

you put your mind to it.

Treat people with the utmost respect,

and you'll gain respect.

and probably,

just know that,

being able to pay it

forward to some individual is

what makes life sustainable.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. And I'm a firm believer of

don't burn bridges.

>> Gentry Humphrey: That's right. That's right. 100%.

>> Speaker B: your favorite golf experience.

>> Gentry Humphrey: This is a hard one just because,

like, I have had, being in the position

I've been. I've been so blessed, like,

the people that I've.

>> Speaker A: I can imagine.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I mean, like,

playing golf with Nelson man. with, I'm sorry.

With barack, obama met Nelson, man. I mean,

like, muhammad ali, like, all these tiger

woods, like, all these, like, I have

experiences that I couldn't put a price tag on. So this is

kind of hard for me because, you know,

sometimes, like, you know, I mentioned

earlier, just being able to play golf with my dad for 4 hours,

that's super special. But I've also

had probably an ultimate foursome, with, you know,

I'm in a meeting with Michael. He says, hey, let's go play. We go

play. And it was hilarious. So, we go

drive to this course, and on the way to the

course, Kobe Bryant pulled up next to

us, and we're like, what's up, kobe. Like, we're just talking to

Kobe and we're like, what do you guys do? And it was just

so flukish. Yeah. And so he gets

the light and he goes a certain way. We go our own way. We get to the

chorus and I didn't know who we were playing with. and

when we get there, we're playing with Tiger, and

John Cook. So it was m me,

MJ, tiger, John Cook, you know, in a

foursome.

>> Speaker C: What?

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah. So, so

we're playing the back nine first, and

there's this hard dog leg left and right

in the kind of the center of the dog leg. There's this

huge house. So I hadn't played there. And so I'm, I

asked tiger, I said, hey, like, where am I going? He goes, well, it's

a hard dog leg left because if you see that

trap out there, if you hit towards that trap and you're right behind the

trap, you'll have like 100 and 2130 in.

I'm like, okay. So

I go. And I hit. He gets up and he hits

it over the house, over the corner of

the dog leg. I was like, where is that? He

goes, we get to the green. He's like

15ft for the pin. I like, this is

ridiculous. And he ends up. He ends up

shooting 59 that day. And he double

bogey the 18th hole.

>> Speaker C: No way.

>> Gentry Humphrey: It was, it was cra. And I've seen him do

stuff like, like, just

ridiculous. Like, we're on the range

and he throws the ball up. He feels like, no, he

throws like he's got, like a handful of balls. Six, seven balls. Throws them

up in the air. They all land. I'm like,

what are you doing? He's like, well, the

goal is to make this pattern

of these six, seven balls. The way they

sit here. I need them to sit around

that pin. That's at 130 in the exact same

pattern.

Freaking from what, when he did it,

from. From what I could tell now it's 130 yards

away. It looked almost identical.

>> Speaker C: That is insane.

>> Gentry Humphrey: But he could. But he could do that. He would. There were. We

were in the same spot at one time and he said, what'd you get for

distance? I said, 124, 125. He

goes like, what? He goes, well, which is

it? 124, 125. And he was

dead serious. I was like, dude, your game is at a whole

nother level than mine. Like, I'm just happy to be close, bro,

but so crazy experience.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: So he does.

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: I mean, yeah. Multiple.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Favorite Jordan shoe you have designed.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Oh, Mandy.

this is a hard one, too, because, you know,

the pressure of

continuing the legacy of the air Jordan shoe

is. Was always tremendous. Like,

there's no more pressure than that because you got all

eyes on you. So the

real deal is, like, they all become

kind of like your children and you would never see which is

your. So they're all kind of there.

But if I had to pick one, I would

say the air Jordan eleven and the white black

Concord. But, for different reasons. Like, to me,

when I first saw that shoe, like, you

could not tell me it wasn't the

greatest sneaker of all time. When I first saw it and no

one came in and no one had seen it, I

was like, this thing is incredible. It

was incredible because, ah, it just moved in

a different direction than anything else. And it was so

just sophisticated. It, like, worked with their. I was

like, this shoe was just phenomenal. But

back then, we would go out and we have all these

focus groups and we would go all over the world and share it with

kids and get their opinions. And

90% of the kids could not

stand pat leather because, you know, they had only seen Pat

leather on tuxedo shoes. And so

usually we take those focus groups really

serious and we go out

and make changes. We sat down and

with 90% of people saying, take it off,

it could have been the first shoe that, I mean, it could

have never happened. We stuck to our

guns. Michael loved it. Michael actually wanted to put patent

leather on the nines, way back in the day. Then he

retired and the tens went. So we came back to it on

eleven. And it has a really functional

purpose that is meaningful from a performance

standpoint. But because

we stuck to our guns and now it's the

all time sneaker of all time.

That's why it's more my favorite shoe.

>> Speaker B: That's so cool.

>> Speaker C: That's a good, good story behind that last question.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Yep.

>> Speaker B: What are you chasing?

>> Gentry Humphrey: Oh, man, these days I'm chasing.

Continue to chase dreams. continue to chase

perfection. Continue to chase,

my code business. Trying to take that to another

level.

yeah, just constant pursuit of

perfection.

>> Speaker B: I love it.

>> Gentry Humphrey: I do.

>> Speaker B: I love it, man. My man.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Thank you, Gentry.

>> Speaker C: My man, thank you so much. You guys out there listening,

check out gentry code by gentry google,

check out his shoe collection and also check him out on Instagram.

What is gentry 23?

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Gentry Humphrey: Tw zero three.

>> Speaker B: You ever heard of that number?

>> Speaker C: My man, it was awesome.

>> Speaker B: Thank you.

>> Speaker C: Thank you, Gentry.

>> Speaker B: And I got to be honest, I have to say this is one of my

favorite episodes we had because we all wear the

product that he designs now that he's

involved with Gentry and Jordan. And like

I said, his own brand code by Gentry.

I mean, you talk about being an entrepreneur. He's that.

And it's exciting to see how he can

handle everything, dude, because he's got his code by Gentry, yet he's still

with the VP of Jordan golf. He did all that stuff

with Jordan. I love the story how

Michael Jordan felled him out for the first

time.

>> Speaker A: That he methadore, made him walk around. No,

in. Yeah. Incredible. I mean, just

awesome. career. And the shoes code by gentry.

Shoes are absolutely one of the most comfortable pair

of shoes.

>> Speaker B: They're badass.

>> Speaker A: I've had there. They are badass, clearly. So

make sure you check that out. Now, for me, the Jordan golf

shoe, I always have said they are extremely comfortable on

a golf course. There's no two ways about it. Now, you are a little more

technical with respect to the design, the

models, you know, the twos, the eights, the sixes, the elevens, the

twelve. Like, I I still don't know what those are.

I mean, I do, but I don't not like you. So someone might say

to me, man, you got the eleven s on. I'll be like, they're size

eight and a half. But I

still kind of appreciate the design

aspect. And I, you know, watching you hear that

story about that shoe with the. The asphalt

rope coming from the Jordan.

>> Speaker B: Nines for the US Open. That's so sick.

>> Speaker A: That is a badass.

>> Speaker B: I knew a lot of the details already, but

that part of the road was really cool.

>> Speaker A: Nice little touch and most people don't know that. So getting an

inside look with gentry, that was awesome.

And, you know, for us, we were able to

do this and bring him into

our region here in southwestern Pennsylvania at

Nemacollen Resort. For you people out there

listening, maybe from California, Florida, Georgia,

wherever you may be right now, make sure you check

out nemacolan.com. come on up

here in the fall, come on up here in the late summer, winter, whatever

you want. There is something to do for everyone.

Everyone is welcome and you will

not be disappointed. So nemecolin.com,

hopefully you can come up for the snow falls here in

a couple of months.

>> Speaker B: But I get around the golf in here. I tell you what, the courses

look beautiful for you guys. So I'm glad.

>> Speaker A: Courses are great courses, placements.

But you did good, man. You know,

people were, you know, yucking it up a little bit. Like, what the

hell pep thinking? I said, well, he's not, but that's. That's the

whole point. so it was good. It was good.

And I was watching a little bit of the three m open on. On

this weekend, and it was so freaking boring. I'll be honest with you. I love

seeing John Vegas win it now back. he looked.

Yeah, he looked good on Saturday, but I did switch over

to watch a little bit of live golf tournament. Now I look dead. I don't know

if that's the case, but I definitely was more in

tune to the live tournament this past weekend than I was the three m

open, purely because of the players.

But it was good to see John Rahm get it done.

And can I? Yeah, you can.

>> Speaker B: Does John Rom seem like a little bit of a dick?

It's always. There's always something with him yelling at the

crowd every event the last three weeks. Yell at the crowd. Yell at

the drone, yelling at this dude. In

reality, who cares about where your golf shot went? You got 200,

$300 million.

>> Speaker C: It doesn't matter.

>> Speaker A: Right, but that's true. Like, yeah,

I mean, he might still want to win, but. But you could. Don't

block. Yeah, block out it. Some

knucklehead yelling, he don't care.

>> Speaker C: Don't matter.

>> Speaker A: But anyways, guys, we hope you enjoyed this week's

episode on chasing birdies. And like I said, head on over to our YouTube

channel. Shout out p Shep for doing the

audio, the videos, blah, blah, blah, blah. Always a good

time with p chef media, and you got to spend some good time with

him.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. Other than him dropping the suitcase on my busted foot, it was

great. It was a good time. So, you're gonna see some

videos, some insight, some, you know, we're gonna. And we

follow some guys, watch them, play the whole. Whole

videos, in the cart. So there's gonna be a lot of content coming

through. our man p. Shep, we just gotta get him back from iceland

for this, to get us this. So, But, yeah. Thank you to

everyone. Thank you again to gentry for

hauling all the way across the country for,

the event and the podcast. And make sure you go to

code by Gentry to check out his shoes and

help my man out.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. And you guys out there, thanks again for tuning in here on chase and

birdies. Thank you to evo allie, Emily at simpler media for

putting this thing together, and Jacqueline

de Paterio, Rachel London, for all your social media help. You girls

kicking ass here. We hope you all have a great first

weekend of August, and we'll catch

y'all in two.