This is Hip Hop Movie Club, the show for serious hip hop fans who want to deepen their
cultural knowledge.
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We are longtime hip hop fans who've watched over 75 hip hop themed films.
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And in this episode, we will dive into the popular new Netflix documentary, Sean Combs: The Reckoning, produced by Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson.
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We'll ask, is hip hop ready to hold its legends to the same standards as the world around
it?
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I'm Dyno Wright, filmmaker.
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designer and I'm passing the mic to JB.
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I'm JB, eighties and nineties, and once again, that is the incredible Boogie.
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And I'm Boogie, a DJ, a long time hip hop fan, and once again, we are the Hip Hop Movie
Club.
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Right.
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lot to unpack with this documentary.
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Sean Combs: The Reckoning and from the lens of 50 Cent.
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It is a damning portrait of the man we know as Sean “Puffy”, “P-Diddy” Combs.
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Wow.
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jaw dropping allegations.
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He obtained a lot of the footage from the days leading up to his trial.
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in the fall of 2024 and really exposed him as a monster in so many words.
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Yeah, my mouth a little agape watching some of the people that were talking throughout
this documentary.
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People that were once close friends and confidants and colleagues and business
collaborators and collaborators with them.
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Just giving a little bit of a lot of behind the scenes.
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stuff.
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There's been rumors floating around for decades but nothing has been really put out there and able to stick until fairly recently and I feel like the floodgates have been opened
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and I think that even after this documentary I think there's much more to come.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's a treasure trove of sorts.
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When you really dive in, I thought that Kirk Burrowes was a star in this documentary, the
co-founder of Bad Boy Records, because they were business partners.
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They grew this franchise to enormous heights, probably in hundreds of millions enterprise.
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And he really exposed Diddy as a fraud and someone that exploited everybody on his way up.
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And was ugly.
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I think even like how the documentary, like how it even opens up with him talking
to his attorney, like, six days before his arrest and, the pressure that he's
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trying to put attorney, Mark Agnifilo, um to kind of make it go away and for lack of
better words.
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He's like, you you guys, you're the experts, you guys do what you do and make this go
away.
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Basically, it's like, bro, we can't make things go away.
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Like people are, everyone's seeing the video of, Cassie getting, chased down the hallway
and dragged and beat in the hallway.
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Like that's out there.
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You can't make that go away.
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some of these allegations that are, with very specific details now in
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in cases that are being filed and now you have this major federal set of charges that have
been brought against him based off evidence that was presented to them.
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You can't make that go away.
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Now the feds aren't going to come after you unless they think they have something that
they can make stick.
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Whether they do it or not, whether the sticks are not, yeah, we don't know.
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But they won't come after you unless they feel like they have a case.
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In other words, they're not going to bother you if they don't have a case.
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there's no making that go away.
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You got to ride that one out.
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You got to go to court for that one.
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Yeah, but the problem is domestic violence wasn't part of the federal case.
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That's all part of the civil cases.
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so the frustration that everyone has is that he's in jail.
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But the trial that he had went through for racketeering and Mann Act violations and that
stuff.
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he basically got off except for the transportation for prostitution.
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And so he gets his 50 months time served too.
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I think that the real thing in this documentary is that it's all out there for everyone to
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Like now it's on Netflix.
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His beating of Cassie's on Netflix.
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And that you can’t come back from. I mean, there’s no way out!
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Yeah, I got it.
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I got it.
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It takes us back like, I was talking to my family, my
children, why do people do such terrible things?
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And it's tough to explain why, right?
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You can psychoanalyze people.
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And in this case, it seemed that, it takes us back to his upbringing, right?
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His father died at a young age.
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He was murdered.
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It was part of a drug deal or something like that, right?
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His mother was very hard on him.
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made sure that he was tough and always fought back.
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And it seemed that he kind of had a chip on his shoulder, he dropped out of Howard
University at age 19.
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You can't doubt that he worked very hard.
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broke his way through the internship at Uptown Records, made sure he met Andre Harrell.
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kept harassing, you know, Heavy D introduced me to Andre Harrell.
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And then,
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and then I'm.
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He kind of watched some of those.
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Blacksploitation films, the Mack it's all that type of stuff.
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So he kind of sees his mother would throw these big parties and there was a stage inside
his living room.
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So he saw a little bit of that flashiness.
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it seems to be that once he got power and then money, it's like the song, more money, more
problems, but it was like more money, more mo ego, more power, more problems and like.
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Erick Sermon from EPMD said he thought he was like Scarface.
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You could see as his
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He was definitely a Tony Montana kind of figure.
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As his influence grew, his ego grew and he seemingly didn't care who he stepped
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Like he's climbing the ladder, he's just stepping on people's heads to just advance.
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In fact, he had the habit of just stealing people's girls.
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stole Kim Porter right from Al B Sure
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Misa Hylton was Erick Sermon's girl, actually.
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That was his first love interest.
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And it was almost like a challenge to him and just kind of like evil genius, so to speak.
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Yeah, it was crazy.
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was like, know, bro, like it was funny that kind of we first talking about, Kim
Porter, they said, and I remember she was she was absolutely stunning.
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And like she's the first face you see when you get off the elevator, Uptown Records.
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And he's like, she's dating Al B Sure, who's been touring the world and women are chasing him down hallways and everything.
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And like, yeah, I could take his girl.
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alright, man, what you got to offer.
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You know, that's
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Al B Sure, you are you.
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Like, and then they said, one thing about it was like, when he says he wants something,
he's going to get it.
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It might not be right away, but he's going to chip away and make it happen.
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And he did.
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same with Misa, Erick Sermon was like, he was like, yeah, I need you to get on my album.
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And, know, I really, EPMD is my favorite rap group, Erick Sermon said, you know, I'm
making a friend in the industry.
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No, bro, he's trying to get your ex.
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Like, it's crazy.
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It's crazy work, man.
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Even with Cassie, Cassie was with Ryan Leslie.
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Ryan Leslie at the time was a producer and an artist.
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I remember, his first album is phenomenal.
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I had that album and I played it so much.
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Ryan Leslie's album was amazing and Cassie's singing on it.
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He's like, yeah, I want to bring her into the studio and work with her.
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then little by little, he's kind of pushing Ryan Leslie out of the picture.
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Like, hey, we need to work on this a little bit more.
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I want to have some more, some of the songs and I want to tweak the production a little
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Let's get her some voice sessions.
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those little, couple of hour sessions started going to 10 hours and Ryan Leslie is trying
to do his own thing.
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So he's not in the studio.
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So it's like, dude, just...
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Yeah, he's just of pushed him out of the picture and you're showing her the lifestyle that
she's never seen before.
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I mean, yeah, Ryan Leslie is an artist and is a producer, but he didn't have Diddy money.
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At the time, Bad Boy had already exploded.
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Sean John had already exploded.
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Ciroc had already started to explode and he's got money everywhere.
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So he's going get her that way.
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Even if they started off as just friends, which was probably what happened.
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He groomed her like, typical and gain the trust and then slowly chip
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Crazy.
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It's like methodical.
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But, Diddy's legal trouble started really early on too, because it recounted that 1991
celebrity basketball game that he promoted where it was, there's some rappers and some
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other celebrities and at City College of New York and was not planned well because it was overrun maximum capacity and people were literally nine people died, from either getting
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trampled or
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suffocation just because there was just way too many people and there was
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Not a good plan for that.
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And he had face up to that.
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But I think in the documentary, they said that like he got his way.
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he got through that.
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And then he was like, oh, wow, like that actually was oddly a launching pad to success.
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His name was out there.
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Further escape accountability.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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Started early.
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Like this young guy.
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a good talk.
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And one thing that they mentioned too, that was kind wow, I didn't realize.
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Cause I remember that whole incident.
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I wasn't aware of Puffy, Puff Daddy at that time, but I do remember that incident, with
the, with the basketball game, Kirk Burrowes was saying that when
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they decided to form Bad Boy, they gave his Puff's mother 75% and gave him 25% to keep it out of his name.
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So that when the families.
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to go after the money they couldn't because it wasn't in his name.
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I was like, wow.
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And he's like, that's when he started looking at him differently.
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he's not the same, he's not the same Sean that he grew up with or that he knew from back
in the day.
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He started to see how he's he's calculating how, to get out of situations to keep money.
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It's like, wow, that's where.
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He's not dumb.
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He's manipulative.
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He's not dumb.
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Not at all.
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Yeah, not in the least bit.
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With Misa, he had a child with her.
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allegations that he had beat her.
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And then early on, one of the bigger allegations was that Joi Dickerson-Neal who starred
in an early music video that Diddy produced, and she claimed to have been drugged and
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sexually assaulted and videotaped against her will.
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And that was eye-opening.
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Yeah, that it's like so many instances in this documentary just kind of hit home because when they showed the I have that actual album the single for Straight from the Soul upstairs
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right now like so when it came on I'm like and I remember the video I'm like, my god,
that was her.
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I didn't even realize that was him in the video, but I recognize the girl right away my
god.
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Yeah, this she goes right there.
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my god.
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He was the one I was driving the car.
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my god.
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Volkswagen Rabbit.
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Yeah, it's like even like they were showing the old clips, you know, with Stacy Lattisaw,
the Fine Young Cannibals and he's dancing in the background.
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I'm like, my God, all these times I watch these videos and he's in the videos.
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like one of these mysteries movies that they play it back and they flashback.
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Oh, he was in the background of all these things.
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Dancing.
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It's like, wow.
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It's like the first time I think I remember hearing about him was with, was like Mary.
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It was Mary J.
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Blige.
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Mary J.
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Blige and Jodeci.
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I think were the first time I remember hearing his name mentioned.
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And then, of course, when, Big hit the scene, it was just like, all right, cool.
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This guy's he's a good producer, but then I realized later he wasn't even a producer.
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man.
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was cracking about Mark Curry.
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When they were talking about Diddy's musical talents, he's like, sucks, man, he sucks.
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This brings me back to, it's like 2008, maybe 2010, but Maronzio Vance, the comedian, had
this great YouTube video.
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I've shared this with you guys, Puffy is Poison.
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I've watched it maybe a hundred times since then.
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It's so true.
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Every act he signed to Bad Boy just crashed and burned.
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They crashed and burned or they left.
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They left.
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Like worse off, they weren't any better for having been with Puffy.
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Nah, the LOX were good but the LOX didn’t really blow up, the LOX didn’t
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really blow up per se until they left and became D-Block.
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Their first album
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and they were in shiny suits and stuff
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And Mase finds religion after being with him.
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Like all these people like, wow, I can't deal with this lifestyle.
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And he unfound it.
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But it was wild.
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it's a shame because the clips with Craig Mack, the late Craig Mack’s, his widow saying how
he was exploited.
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Like he had the number one song and he's like asking to borrow a hundred dollars.
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It was sad.
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Making Moves with Puff is one my favorite songs.
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And of course, here he is dancing in the background of the video.
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Yep and getting paid to dance in the videos
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Yeah, and yeah, so like, self-dealing.
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Man, it was so conniving.
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He's always one comes first.
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oh, let me put that.
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I'm in the video.
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Pay for my appearance there.
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My cameos.
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Yeah.
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you're going to pay me for using the studio.
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you're going to pay me for being in the video.
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My cameo, you're paying for my cameo.
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If I talk on your song in the beginning, you got to pay me for that.
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It's like, oh my God, man, really?
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It's like it was never about the music.
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It was about him acquiring power and influence and money through the music.
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And he was so corny and performative sometimes.
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Come on, Really?
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It's like it makes me so mad that I bought that New Way Out album.
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It's like why did I buy that?
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That first Craig Mack record is really great though, I mean.
241
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I knew why I bought Craig Mack.
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I knew why I bought Biggie.
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I knew why I bought Total, Mary J, and Jodeci.
244
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I knew why I bought those.
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Why did I buy that No Way Out album?
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It’s like
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All About the Benjamins was alright.
248
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It was pretty good.
249
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But other than that, like, after that, if you don't have Craig Mack or Biggie, I'm not
interested.
250
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And the craziest thing about it is that All About the Benjamins, that song wasn't even
them.
251
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I it wasn't even a Diddy song.
252
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It was a Lox song.
253
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I remember when it first came out on a DJ Clue mixtape.
254
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There was no, we played that song over and over and over that DJ Clue mixtape.
255
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And then it ended up on his album.
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Cause it was already a hit.
257
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So he said, all right, people are gonna listen to it.
258
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Still on the album, Boost the Sales.
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Well, I'll be missing you.
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Almost like unironically, like just copies it.
261
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And it also includes like the creepiness of the original Police song.
262
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Because that's how Diddy runs himself.
263
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That's how he operates.
264
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Total creep show.
265
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lyrics to the Police, it's like someone's being stalked.
266
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But I always felt thought it was odd that this is his best friend’s song, paying tribute to him and
mourning him.
267
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And he's out and he's doing his little diddy bop in the background dancing.
268
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Why are you dancing in the background?
269
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Like dancing on his grave almost.
270
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Yeah.
271
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Exactly.
272
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It's not a praise.
273
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It definitely wasn't a praise dance.
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it's almost like you see dollar signs like in his eyes, know, like literally the album
Life After Death, and they said that they didn't even have that as the potential working
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title.
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And it's like, life after death.
277
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And it is released like a couple of weeks right after he died.
278
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And it's like, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
279
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I didn't realize this, but
280
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We all saw that we've all seen the videos of the long funeral procession, the funeral and
Bed Stuy didn't realize it.
281
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Like Diddy charged Biggie's estate to it?
282
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It's not like all the money that Diddy has, you know, and he's not putting up a penny.
283
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It's like, was.
284
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not how you acquire resources or maintain your resources.
285
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Kirk Burrowes was like, yeah, he's like, oh, I'm gonna take care of this and I'm gonna take care of that.
286
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We're gonna do this.
287
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And then we saw like the price tag.
288
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He just kind of reneged on it like, I was like, oh man.
289
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Because the whole time, like you said, we've seen the processions and I'm
thinking that he did take care.
290
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He took care of that.
291
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But he didn't.
292
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That's like, wow.
293
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Biggie was a means to an end.
294
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Yep.
295
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That's how it was.
296
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On top of the damning of the character literally 50 Cent puts out
there really puts Diddy at the heart of the deaths of both, Tupac and Biggie, right?
297
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Both really incriminates him.
298
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Yeah.
299
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And ultimately he was threatened by Biggie because Biggie had the talent and the charisma.
300
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yep
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And he was blowing up.
302
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And he was fearful, he was fearful for his life.
303
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And they were, they were warned multiple times, don't step foot here on the West coast
after that beef, you know, obvious after Tupac's killed that the beef hit the Source
304
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Awards and everything.
305
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It's like, do not go out there, do not go out there, right?
306
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And he goes there and wait, let's go wake him up in the morning.
307
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Let's go, let's go out here, let's go out here, let's go out here, here, here,
308
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here, let me use you as a human shield.
309
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Go out there and take a few bullets.
310
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And not even just go out there, but he was supposed to leave to go to Europe and just completely called up Kirk at the last minute.
311
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It's like, no, you know, cancel all of that.
312
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We're going to keep him out here to promote a party.
313
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Like, bro, promote a party.
314
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Like, are you kidding me?
315
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Like, it's real out there.
316
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It's real.
317
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and it's not that you can't miss him.
318
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He's not a little guy.
319
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Like, come on, man.
320
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I was so frustrated watching all of that play out because all that been avoided.
321
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I mean, to a certain extent, you know people want you.
322
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Yeah, they might get you eventually.
323
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They may not get you, but why go to them?
324
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Why put yourself out there? Like, right.
325
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risk literal life and death?
326
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Exactly.
327
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yeah, we've seen the footage of, the Quad Studios where Tupac was attacked and the way
that it's framed here is that, Diddy was there.
328
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He knew, and I think Tupac's quote after he was shot is like, they're calling this a
burglary.
329
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Like literally you're not taking my what?
330
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$80,000 watch, right?
331
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Yeah.
332
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I was a target here.
333
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They're showing Diddy jumping up and down a little bit.
334
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Surprised he wasn’t dancing in the background.
335
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Animated, yeah.
336
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the affiliation that, I didn't realize the affiliation Diddy was affiliated with the South
Side Crips and Suge Knight with the Bloods.
337
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And Diddy had several conversations with Keefe D and the nephew Orlando Anderson, you who
was at the heart of those attacks in Vegas.
338
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So that was really incriminating.
339
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Yeah.
340
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yeah.
341
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told that one story about that incident in Atlanta, when Suge showed up with the one guy and
somebody just walked up on him and just started, know, stood there and just just pulled
342
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the trigger, shot him five times.
343
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I'm like, wow.
344
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That was Big Jake, right? His friend. Yeah.
345
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that was the first time I ever heard of that incident.
346
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It's like, you know, Suge had to grab Puffy.
347
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to say, hey, listen, if you're gonna get me, you're gonna get him too.
348
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That whole scene, I couldn't even imagine how wild that must've been.
349
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It's crazy.
350
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Yeah.
351
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they insinuate the big conversations at Greenblatt's deli that Diddy wanted both Pac and
Suge Knight killed.
352
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Like a one million dollar deal with these guys like Keefe D and maybe Orlando Anderson to
kill both and then didn't even pay up because only one of them was killed.
353
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And he kind of filtered it through, what was the one guy's name?
354
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He filtered it through the one guy and didn't even pay them directly, apparently.
355
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Zip, yep.
356
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Zip was his boy.
357
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So even pay Keefe D, Keefe D gets locked up.
358
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He gets locked up and he doesn’t even get the money.
359
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Everyone else takes the rap.
360
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Like Shyne
361
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yeah.
362
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Shyne's the sacrificial lamb.
363
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Mm-hmm.
364
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And what was really interesting, Kirk Burrowes was intrigued, before the assassination of
Tupac, why did he want all these multiple cars rented and driven across the country?
365
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Like, got so much money, he can just fly out there, but I that was kind of to cover tracks
because something was going down.
366
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Yeah.
367
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Yep.
368
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Yeah.
369
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Crazy.
370
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Yeah, crazy.
371
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Then there was other incidents along the way.
372
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Like you can see a whole rap sheet, no pun intended, like the 1990 club, the club shooting
with JLo there.
373
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And that one poor woman was a victim and we've seen her in the documentaries and
374
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Got shot in the face.
375
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Yeah Yep, even like though with the whole incident with the Death Row East with
Suge trying to start Death Row East and was trying to court Craig Mack to Death Row in he
376
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even feared for his life at one point You know, it's like Wow
377
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Diddy assaulted Steve Stoute who was actually Nas's former manager over some, I think it
was over video airplay.
378
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Yeah, that was the Hate Me Now when they had him up on the cross.
379
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I'm trying to think his name.
380
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You know, he wanted to remove the footage and he didn't want to take it down.
381
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And they assaulted him and broke his arm and beat him badly with, aw man.
382
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And then the reality shows Making the Band.
383
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didn't realize how how much he exploited women in Danity Kane and then Da Band.
384
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Yeah.
385
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Aubrey O'Day.
386
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Yeah.
387
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Grooming these people too.
388
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Yep.
389
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Yep.
390
00:21:34,541 --> 00:21:37,333
I remember those shows, there was an exodus from Bad Boy.
391
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like we mentioned earlier, Faith was gone.
392
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Total was gone.
393
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Big had passed away.
394
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Craig Mack wasn't with the label anymore.
395
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had a couple people that was coming on here and like, he didn't have one big act.
396
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he was always like, all well, what's he gonna do about this?
397
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He's like, I'mma form a band.
398
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All right, cool.
399
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Let's see what he does.
400
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So I was, I was watching those shows and I'm looking like, ain't no way in hell.
401
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You know, he had these guys like, it's like a minstrel show, you know, it's like, yeah,
you guys walk down to Junior's and get me a cheesecake.
402
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And I'm like, man, listen.
403
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to Brooklyn, like, because he could.
404
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Because he's like that.
405
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Babs, it's funny because the quote was actually in the documentary.
406
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She's like, I'm from New York and I've never walked done this walk like what is going on?
407
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they actually did end up gelling together.
408
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But he did the same thing when he said he signed them to become famous.
409
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But that.
410
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But not rich.
411
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Yeah, and they put out the one album.
412
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But that was it.
413
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And then he was like, all right, we're gonna try it again.
414
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And then, Danity Kane is like, they actually sounded good together.
415
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One of my favorite songs is Damage.
416
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I love that song.
417
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And I played a lot, but I didn't realize that.
418
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He was after they had formed that he was he was acting like that towards Aubrey and then
all of a sudden I started hearing like like through the rumor like I said a lot of this
419
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stuff in the documentary there's been rumors of it.
420
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So you hear stuff here and there but you're like yeah you don't know if it's sticked or
not if it's just people talking.
421
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So I knew that she had some problems having problems with her and that's she ended up
leaving the group and then I remember when they formed Dirty Money with Dawn and Kalenna
422
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And I'm like, that's different.
423
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Like, okay, what happened to Danity Kane.
424
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He just snatched Dawn out the group.
425
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Like, what the heck is going on?
426
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Come to find out like, right.
427
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And then come to find out he was, messing around with Dawn and treating her crazy.
428
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Like, what the heck is going on, bro?
429
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Like, can you just keep it to just a business?
430
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Like,
431
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:33,791
Yeah, all the loot.
432
00:23:33,791 --> 00:23:34,375
It’s not about the music.
433
00:23:34,541 --> 00:23:39,041
Yeah, all the lewdness with Aubrey was, yeah, that was eye opening.
434
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Yeah, just very.
435
00:23:40,208 --> 00:23:50,291
I felt so bad for her when I went like especially when she told us she was contacted by
the lawyer because she was mentioned in somebody's case and then she started reading the
436
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The affidavit and the woman was was that was a witness to her.
437
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her being assaulted and she walked in on her and I'm like, oh my God.
438
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And she's like, I don't even remember that.
439
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Like I can't recall it.
440
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I don't know.
441
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She's like, did it really happen?
442
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And I'm like, I felt so bad in that moment for her, she wasn't numb, but she was trying to
process it.
443
00:24:12,541 --> 00:24:13,083
sad.
444
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poor Babs.
445
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was going through custody battle and she was just wanted to like $5,000 or something and
Diddy would not help her out.
446
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really nasty, like abusing these folks, exploiting them.
447
00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:26,583
Never pay Lil Rod either.
448
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I can't pay you bro.
449
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Yo, hit me up next week.
450
00:24:34,666 --> 00:24:37,291
Lil Rod got put through the wringer, no pun intended.
451
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Yeah, Lil Rod got nothing.
452
00:24:39,375 --> 00:24:40,541
He still ain't got paid.
453
00:24:40,541 --> 00:24:44,000
None of these Bad Boy acts got paid.
454
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None of these got paid.
455
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He was abused too.
456
00:24:46,208 --> 00:24:50,500
He said he was likely drugged multiple times because he doesn't have memory of a lot of
this.
457
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And so he's drugging these people, taking advantage of them, not paying them, just getting
their services.
458
00:24:56,458 --> 00:25:01,791
they also indicate Puffy was dabbling in a lot of different drugs.
459
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They said he may have got hooked on Percocet when he had that issue with his wrist, which
may or may not have been self-inflicted.
460
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earlier on when he was younger and then reports of designer cocaine, ecstasy.
461
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All kinds of stuff.
462
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G in the baby oil, right?
463
00:25:19,583 --> 00:25:21,083
What is this?
464
00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:22,541
This is crazy.
465
00:25:22,625 --> 00:25:28,166
That just really took the whole baby oil imagery to another level.
466
00:25:28,583 --> 00:25:29,625
How much was it absurd?
467
00:25:29,625 --> 00:25:30,625
Right!
468
00:25:30,625 --> 00:25:33,375
It was already absurd but you just put it on a whole other level.
469
00:25:33,375 --> 00:25:38,875
You got all these bottles of baby oil but now we're finding out these bottles of baby oil were like...
470
00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:39,500
They were laced.
471
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,333
They were laced!
472
00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:42,833
Ugh.
473
00:25:43,416 --> 00:25:44,458
God!
474
00:25:44,458 --> 00:25:50,166
there was one guy that ordered male gigolo that, apparently ordered to be with him and
Cassie multiple times.
475
00:25:50,166 --> 00:26:00,166
And man, what was really disturbing to me on top of all this stuff was like on the
anniversary of his death, March 9th, like he orders this guy like every year and they
476
00:26:00,166 --> 00:26:01,250
celebrate and party.
477
00:26:01,250 --> 00:26:02,583
I'm like, this is your friend.
478
00:26:02,583 --> 00:26:04,291
Like you're mourning the day of the death.
479
00:26:04,291 --> 00:26:08,333
Like that's really off putting.
480
00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:10,416
I don’t want to. Yeah.
481
00:26:10,416 --> 00:26:15,250
police anyone's grief process, but it certainly looks weird.
482
00:26:16,166 --> 00:26:17,625
Bad optics.
483
00:26:17,625 --> 00:26:22,333
You know, this is the same thing he did after he died, dancing around with Sting on stage.
484
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,625
I don't know.
485
00:26:24,625 --> 00:26:29,375
Maybe this is his way, but it's a little off the norm.
486
00:26:29,791 --> 00:26:31,583
50 Cent got everybody to kind of spill the beans.
487
00:26:31,583 --> 00:26:39,208
Capricorn Clark, was a long time assistant and she had known Suge Knight, prior to meeting
Diddy and that was a big issue for him.
488
00:26:39,208 --> 00:26:47,125
So sloppy like you could do background checks like if you're that
worried about it like that's such a miss for him.
489
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:47,791
Really?
490
00:26:47,791 --> 00:26:55,541
it's easy to say in hindsight. I don't know my job they did a background check and
I'm like nowhere near that kind of thing.
491
00:26:56,625 --> 00:26:58,291
You could have found this out.
492
00:26:58,333 --> 00:27:00,041
This didn't have to be surprise.
493
00:27:00,041 --> 00:27:07,083
The crazy thing about it is that he probably did find out, knowing how he thinks, he
probably wanted to see what kind of buttons he could push.
494
00:27:07,166 --> 00:27:12,625
The whole, riding around all day and he's breaking down her job duties and all of a sudden they end up in a dark Central Park with the bodyguard with him and the
495
00:27:12,625 --> 00:27:13,875
bodyguard, him, her and the bodyguard.
496
00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:18,500
Like, yeah, I understand, you know, Suge, you know, and if things go left, I might have to
take you out.
497
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:19,875
Like what?
498
00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:20,750
On first day!
499
00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:23,833
It's so weird!
500
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,458
And she's like, you know, I've dealt with all kinds of weirdness.
501
00:27:27,458 --> 00:27:40,333
So like it didn't even register with her, she's kind of just like yeah, whatever, anybody else would have ran for the hills Like I don't need this job, I'm sorry
502
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:43,000
Training Day with Denzel Washington, Ethan Hawke, felt like that.
503
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,791
Like, this is getting a little too real here.
504
00:27:46,791 --> 00:27:50,083
exactly exactly like oh my God
505
00:27:50,083 --> 00:27:55,208
The one person I wish I had heard from, and a lot of people were asking this, like,
where's Fonzworth Bentley?
506
00:27:55,208 --> 00:27:57,083
I already knew you were going say that.
507
00:27:57,083 --> 00:27:58,666
I knew you were going with it.
508
00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:01,875
But knowing him, he's probably got a crazy non-disclosure agreement.
509
00:28:01,875 --> 00:28:03,458
That's probably, yeah.
510
00:28:03,458 --> 00:28:08,666
The dude is smart and probably has a nice big firewall around him.
511
00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:12,500
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's got a crazy non-disclosure agreement.
512
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:20,041
Um, that probably, he probably won't be able to talk until like 50 years from now or
something like that.
513
00:28:20,041 --> 00:28:21,083
If then.
514
00:28:21,166 --> 00:28:22,791
yeah, yeah.
515
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:26,750
But that's the thing, think that's the thing, everybody's like, where's Fonzworth at?
516
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:27,958
He talks.
517
00:28:28,125 --> 00:28:30,291
But yeah, we won't hear from him.
518
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:31,250
I doubt it.
519
00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:40,916
If he's smart, he's probably recording some kind of documentary right now, like a diary, like, upon my death, play this.
520
00:28:43,541 --> 00:28:49,000
You know, if anything mysteriously happens to me, play this tape or something like that,
or open this envelope.
521
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,791
If I get stabbed with an umbrella, this is why.
522
00:28:52,166 --> 00:28:54,291
This message will self-destruct type thing.
523
00:28:54,708 --> 00:28:57,375
But yeah, man, that's is wild.
524
00:28:58,208 --> 00:29:05,791
And like, I think that one part that was that was a little disturbing too, with Little Rod
was talking and I felt bad for this guy, man.
525
00:29:05,791 --> 00:29:07,500
He's an up and coming producer.
526
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,333
He's trying to make a way.
527
00:29:09,333 --> 00:29:13,000
He gets, invited to work on his Love album.
528
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,833
And Diddy’s just grooming him!
529
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,708
Oh yeah, you we're gonna move you down here.
530
00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:19,583
We will move you next door.
531
00:29:19,583 --> 00:29:22,083
we're gonna have you producing this album.
532
00:29:22,083 --> 00:29:23,291
You're gonna be the man.
533
00:29:23,416 --> 00:29:27,208
You go down here and round up, round up these women and bring them back.
534
00:29:27,208 --> 00:29:28,416
He's doing what he got to do.
535
00:29:28,416 --> 00:29:29,666
You know, I get it.
536
00:29:29,666 --> 00:29:32,333
But, things started getting kind of weird.
537
00:29:32,375 --> 00:29:34,125
He said he went to that, KK was her name.
538
00:29:34,125 --> 00:29:35,916
And she kind of down just downplayed it.
539
00:29:35,916 --> 00:29:37,708
Like there was nothing.
540
00:29:38,166 --> 00:29:39,250
Yeah.
541
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:40,875
It's like, aw man.
542
00:29:40,875 --> 00:29:51,208
I, yeah, I can't imagine being in a situation where, cause at that point he was so deep
in, he had put all those hours and hours and hours, and now he's trying to wait on his
543
00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:52,208
pay.
544
00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:53,375
And.
545
00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:55,708
all this weirdness is going on.
546
00:29:55,708 --> 00:30:01,125
He’s noticing that he's waking up with no recollection of what happened and he's sore and whatever.
547
00:30:01,208 --> 00:30:03,375
It's like, oh my God, yeah.
548
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,291
Then in recent years, there was the Kid Cudi incident.
549
00:30:06,291 --> 00:30:10,541
Kid Cudi went hiking with Cassie and Diddy finds out, he's enraged and he wants
to kill him.
550
00:30:11,333 --> 00:30:13,833
I didn’t hear about that, that’s a new one for me.
551
00:30:13,833 --> 00:30:17,375
Yeah, I remember hearing about that because my son's a big Kid Cudi fan.
552
00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:19,833
He tried to blow up his car or something or think it's either blow up.
553
00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:22,041
He blew up his car, but he wasn't in there.
554
00:30:22,041 --> 00:30:26,666
He was in the house with Cassie and luckily nothing happened to them.
555
00:30:26,666 --> 00:30:29,291
But that was a wild scene that could have gone
556
00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:30,208
terrible way.
557
00:30:30,208 --> 00:30:31,791
That was crazy.
558
00:30:32,916 --> 00:30:34,666
He blamed Capricorn for that.
559
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:37,458
Like, you knew this and you didn't tell me.
560
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,750
And he just picked it up and took her with him.
561
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:41,666
Like, you're coming with me, we're to go kill him.
562
00:30:41,666 --> 00:30:42,958
Like, what?
563
00:30:44,041 --> 00:30:49,000
And luckily he wasn't home because the dude really just walked him in the house with a gun
in his hand.
564
00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:51,416
that could have gone all kinds of left.
565
00:30:52,416 --> 00:30:54,666
And then called her up and she was with him.
566
00:30:54,666 --> 00:30:56,291
And he's like, you don't get down here.
567
00:30:56,291 --> 00:30:58,666
I'm not letting her go to you.
568
00:31:00,041 --> 00:31:00,166
come to us or whatever, like what?
569
00:31:00,166 --> 00:31:07,208
Yeah, I feel bad and I feel bad for the way things ended for Kim Porter who, passed away
several years ago, right?
570
00:31:07,416 --> 00:31:13,625
Because it was the whole thing with, you married him had had, children, the twins and
another child with Diddy and then he's just off with Cassie.
571
00:31:13,625 --> 00:31:18,125
It's like the wife, the wifey thing that said, you know, you have the wife and the wifey
and she's like, that's it.
572
00:31:18,125 --> 00:31:19,041
I'm not dealing with this anymore.
573
00:31:19,041 --> 00:31:23,166
And finally, you know, I eventually filed for divorce and I got to focus on raising the
kids.
574
00:31:23,166 --> 00:31:25,291
That was a shame that she had passed.
575
00:31:25,291 --> 00:31:32,416
And also really felt bad for Kirk Burrowes because he was like coerced to sell his 25 %
share in Bad Boy.
576
00:31:32,416 --> 00:31:38,333
Like literally like threatened like this guy's probably gonna kill me or something like,
and then he tried to get it back.
577
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:40,458
Sued Diddy, but wasn't able to recoup it.
578
00:31:40,458 --> 00:31:43,166
And then he was blacklisted for 25 years.
579
00:31:43,166 --> 00:31:45,875
And in fact, he said he think he was homeless for a while.
580
00:31:45,875 --> 00:31:46,750
Mm-hmm.
581
00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:48,458
yeah, I don't even think he sold this only with he sold his portion.
582
00:31:48,458 --> 00:31:52,458
I think Diddy just took it He's just like I'm gonna give it back.
583
00:31:52,458 --> 00:31:56,083
He's I'm gonna give it back Yeah, he said I'm give it back.
584
00:31:56,083 --> 00:32:01,041
I'm gonna give it back I just gotta work out this deal and I'm gonna give it back and he
never gave it back
585
00:32:01,833 --> 00:32:06,458
I picture them kind of like Willy Wonka, like fine print, like you get nothing.
586
00:32:07,541 --> 00:32:09,541
Black and white, black and white.
587
00:32:09,541 --> 00:32:11,208
You lose nothing.
588
00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:13,041
like, my God.
589
00:32:13,041 --> 00:32:15,000
Yeah.
590
00:32:15,041 --> 00:32:22,750
my man, he just like, I mean Diddy just trounced on every anybody and anybody and there
was one part we didn't mention he even took the cover of Rolling Stone magazine from
591
00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:23,791
Biggie before his death.
592
00:32:23,791 --> 00:32:28,500
Like he was all said it's like no I got this No Way Out coming out, I'm gonna put myself
out there.
593
00:32:28,916 --> 00:32:29,833
I mean.
594
00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:33,875
yeah, there's all kinds of levels to how screwed up that was.
595
00:32:34,416 --> 00:32:38,708
And then to talk about Biggie but Biggie had just renegotiated his contract.
596
00:32:39,041 --> 00:32:46,250
And he wants Kirk to like fluff up the middle in favor of bad boy and without telling
anybody because it was already signed.
597
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:47,875
And when Kirk didn't do it.
598
00:32:48,291 --> 00:32:48,708
Yeah.
599
00:32:48,708 --> 00:32:52,375
And then when Kirk didn't refuse to do it because it was unethical.
600
00:32:52,708 --> 00:32:53,833
Let him go.
601
00:32:54,458 --> 00:32:59,125
Not only do you take his 25 % of the company, but now he doesn't have a job.
602
00:33:00,083 --> 00:33:02,125
And now he can't work in the industry anymore.
603
00:33:02,125 --> 00:33:03,250
It's like, that's crazy.
604
00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:04,666
It's crazy!
605
00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:11,208
Yeah, it's going to be hard for him to overcome like he's got so many more detractors now,
Diddy.
606
00:33:11,208 --> 00:33:15,291
Like if, like I said, if you're a Diddy Apologist, you don't have much to stand on after
this.
607
00:33:15,291 --> 00:33:17,916
There's just so much.
608
00:33:18,125 --> 00:33:18,708
Right.
609
00:33:18,708 --> 00:33:23,041
Seventy seven civil suits as the filming was still pending, there was over 100.
610
00:33:23,666 --> 00:33:24,166
Yeah.
611
00:33:24,166 --> 00:33:25,166
be more common, right?
612
00:33:25,166 --> 00:33:26,375
Yeah, yeah, absolute madness.
613
00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:28,625
I was just like, wow.
614
00:33:28,625 --> 00:33:32,500
In the court of public opinion, Diddy's guilty on like all these charges.
615
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:39,291
And I kept saying like this rumors, there's even like, I don't, they didn't talk about it
in the documentary, but there's even rumors that, you know, surrounding Kim Porter's,
616
00:33:39,291 --> 00:33:44,000
passing that are like there’s questions, that he might have had something to do with that.
617
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,416
I mean, it's not in the documentary, but I've definitely heard the rumors.
618
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:48,916
So it's like,
619
00:33:48,916 --> 00:33:54,083
of pneumonia but I don't know if there was a full autopsy or not.
620
00:33:54,083 --> 00:34:02,791
Right, it's all kinds of stuff surrounding it, like questions that aren't answered and
things just looking a little shady or weird and it's like, wow.
621
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:07,916
When you're a young, fairly healthy woman, it's kind of odd, right?
622
00:34:07,916 --> 00:34:10,166
She like 47 or something when she passed.
623
00:34:10,166 --> 00:34:11,250
wasn't like...
624
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:12,875
She was fairly young, yeah.
625
00:34:12,916 --> 00:34:19,708
When you have a lot of financial resources and you have pneumonia, that's something you
should be able to overcome.
626
00:34:19,708 --> 00:34:23,041
But again, Diddy's been known to withhold financial resources.
627
00:34:23,041 --> 00:34:28,250
Who knows if he's cooking books and she's not receiving the financial resources she needs.
628
00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:28,875
Who knows?
629
00:34:28,875 --> 00:34:31,333
Or the medical resources.
630
00:34:31,416 --> 00:34:32,833
Lie Cheat Steal.
631
00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:37,750
Yeah, 50 Cent did him dirty here, but I mean, lot of it's all on his own doing.
632
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:39,791
It's not kind of like, it wasn't hard to.
633
00:34:39,791 --> 00:34:40,000
know.
634
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:50,583
Like even how the footage was obtained, you're facing a possible arrest in a case that's
coming up, but you have the audacity to start video taping yourself, have a videographer
635
00:34:50,583 --> 00:34:58,208
following you around as you're handling this case the premise that you're going to
probably get off and make money off of this documentary.
636
00:34:58,208 --> 00:34:59,375
that's exactly it.
637
00:34:59,375 --> 00:35:03,916
Right, and then you get arrested, you get found guilty on a couple of the charges, refused
to pay the videographer.
638
00:35:03,916 --> 00:35:09,416
And, well, your problem, because now the videographer can just shop it out.
639
00:35:09,416 --> 00:35:18,875
we all know, King Petty, King Petty found a way to get his hands on that footage, because,
you know, that's what he's going to do.
640
00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:21,291
It's a hot ticket, Netflix...
641
00:35:21,291 --> 00:35:24,666
They got that deal going and here we are.
642
00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:32,791
Your own, your greediness is your undoing in this situation because you could have bought
all this footage and it never would have seen the light of day.
643
00:35:33,083 --> 00:35:34,208
But because.
644
00:35:34,208 --> 00:35:36,500
I'm sure he thought like he was going to get off.
645
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:38,583
He got off, it gets off every time.
646
00:35:38,583 --> 00:35:40,708
doesn't suffer any consequences.
647
00:35:40,708 --> 00:35:46,125
So his hubris, his ego is, well, I'm going to film me because this is the hero's journey
now.
648
00:35:46,125 --> 00:35:47,458
Yeah, exactly.
649
00:35:47,458 --> 00:35:47,875
Yep.
650
00:35:47,875 --> 00:35:48,958
He's on his odyssey.
651
00:35:48,958 --> 00:35:51,333
oh His journey.
652
00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:52,125
Yeah, exactly.
653
00:35:52,125 --> 00:35:52,916
Yep.
654
00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:02,500
Did you see there was a funny social media post that 50 Cent put out saying how Netflix
must be ticked off because they put out Stranger Things season five and it's not nearly as
655
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,125
popular as The Reckoning.
656
00:36:05,125 --> 00:36:12,166
Right, all that money they put into Stranger Things and this little cheap documentary is
the number one thing.
657
00:36:12,166 --> 00:36:16,291
Yeah, and think you said watching Diddy strange doing stranger things or something like
that.
658
00:36:16,291 --> 00:36:17,875
yeah, yeah, yeah.
659
00:36:18,041 --> 00:36:20,250
Diddy’s the Upside Down.
660
00:36:20,541 --> 00:36:22,083
Bad Boy Entertainment is the Upside Down.
661
00:36:22,083 --> 00:36:24,791
Oh, man.
662
00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:34,666
I do feel sorry for twins the girls Because you obviously as we see from what's going on
in the documentary. Christian and Justin are with him during some of these antics
663
00:36:34,958 --> 00:36:37,833
But I do feel bad for the girls the twins
664
00:36:38,583 --> 00:36:42,375
because now they got to deal with this the fall out from this whole situation.
665
00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:48,541
um I actually know people that know them personally that ironically, a set of twins that I
know hang out with them.
666
00:36:48,541 --> 00:36:56,541
So it's like, girls and they're going to have to deal with the harshness of the
world and the repercussions that, their father’s antics.
667
00:36:57,208 --> 00:36:57,666
I mean,
668
00:36:57,666 --> 00:36:58,041
into this.
669
00:36:58,041 --> 00:37:03,208
something that they did wrong and they're going to get teased and bullied, unfortunately.
670
00:37:03,208 --> 00:37:04,541
Yeah, yeah.
671
00:37:04,625 --> 00:37:08,333
Christian and Justin are firing shots at 50 and 50 firing shots back at them.
672
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:10,666
But the girls they don't have anything to do with anything.
673
00:37:10,666 --> 00:37:12,416
Throw that out there real quick.
674
00:37:12,416 --> 00:37:13,500
Yeah, shame
675
00:37:14,083 --> 00:37:14,583
Yeah.
676
00:37:14,583 --> 00:37:22,291
And the victims, the victims it's like you're trying to get over a situation and you got
to keep reliving it because it's playing over and over and over again.
677
00:37:22,291 --> 00:37:23,250
I feel bad for them.
678
00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:26,541
Yeah, I think they circled back towards the end of the Joi Dickerson-Neal
679
00:37:26,541 --> 00:37:28,166
She's like, I thought I was only one.
680
00:37:28,166 --> 00:37:32,291
And then over time, like, wow, I see how he treats everybody and everybody's an object to
him.
681
00:37:32,291 --> 00:37:34,333
The trauma is worse the second time around.
682
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:37,916
her whole situation was wild, man, how she found out about it.
683
00:37:37,916 --> 00:37:40,666
Like people were just contacting like, yo, I saw you on tape.
684
00:37:40,791 --> 00:37:42,000
Like I saw you on tape.
685
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,291
Like he was playing it at a party.
686
00:37:43,291 --> 00:37:44,791
It's like, what?
687
00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:48,541
That's some crazy, crazy behavior.
688
00:37:48,541 --> 00:37:51,250
messy, messy.
689
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:56,000
And I think at that time he might've been like, 21 when that was going on.
690
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:57,166
Messy, messy, messy.
691
00:37:57,416 --> 00:37:59,291
what world is that okay?
692
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:04,125
Like the act itself is bad, big enough to play it.
693
00:38:04,125 --> 00:38:05,041
Mm-hmm.
694
00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:06,083
In public?
695
00:38:06,125 --> 00:38:07,166
Yeah.
696
00:38:07,166 --> 00:38:08,125
Yeah.
697
00:38:08,666 --> 00:38:10,666
Really is Tony Montana.
698
00:38:11,541 --> 00:38:15,541
No regard for consequences or accountability.
699
00:38:15,541 --> 00:38:17,583
There was one thing that I was trying to figure out.
700
00:38:17,583 --> 00:38:25,083
I don't know if you guys peeped it out, but in the beginning when he was talking to his attorney, what the heck was that medallion around his neck?
701
00:38:25,541 --> 00:38:27,166
Yeah, I didn't quite get that.
702
00:38:27,166 --> 00:38:28,208
didn't quite...
703
00:38:28,208 --> 00:38:29,375
Yeah.
704
00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:30,791
Yeah.
705
00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:32,125
I didn't quite know what that symbol was.
706
00:38:32,125 --> 00:38:33,416
had to go look
707
00:38:33,416 --> 00:38:34,791
I was like, what is that all about?
708
00:38:34,791 --> 00:38:37,083
that like some kind of a Illuminati or something?
709
00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:38,000
don't know.
710
00:38:38,708 --> 00:38:40,583
or something with the freak-offs.
711
00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:42,958
King of the freak-offs.
712
00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:46,333
thing is like they didn't really go into the whole freak-off type thing.
713
00:38:46,333 --> 00:38:49,583
They didn't and they just kinda hinted at it.
714
00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:49,833
Yeah.
715
00:38:49,833 --> 00:38:53,333
my guess is that it was a little too incriminating to just put out there.
716
00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:54,916
so, you know, who was at these freak offs.
717
00:38:54,916 --> 00:39:00,625
And so, you know, the director, Alex Stapleton, has got like one big fish to fry, right?
718
00:39:00,625 --> 00:39:01,625
It's Diddy.
719
00:39:01,791 --> 00:39:07,333
Whoever else is at the freak offs will deal with that in part two.
720
00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:16,083
Yeah, because I do remember like when he was showing like pictures I do remember I did see
Leonardo DiCaprio was in I seen him on someone one of the pictures oh no he's a few other
721
00:39:16,333 --> 00:39:24,583
Yeah, the part five that'll come out after some of these other trials can happen or when
Diddy gets out of jail in 2028.
722
00:39:25,583 --> 00:39:28,875
If I know 50, that wasn't all the footage that he had.
723
00:39:29,208 --> 00:39:30,916
No, I'm sure he's got more.
724
00:39:30,916 --> 00:39:31,708
Yeah.
725
00:39:32,041 --> 00:39:41,750
you want to kick him a little bit and you methodically kick him again while he's down and
kick him again while he's down And then he'll probably wait until he gets released and
726
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:42,916
he'll probably release another one.
727
00:39:42,916 --> 00:39:45,041
Start coming out like Tupac albums.
728
00:39:45,041 --> 00:39:48,875
Right, right. More came out after he died.
729
00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:51,208
Right. The Reckoning after The Reckoning
730
00:39:51,208 --> 00:39:52,166
Yeah.
731
00:39:53,208 --> 00:39:54,291
there's so many vectors.
732
00:39:54,291 --> 00:39:55,166
can go off on this.
733
00:39:55,166 --> 00:39:59,583
Like you could do a whole documentary with just like William LeSane, Tupac's cousin.
734
00:39:59,583 --> 00:40:01,666
Like he had a really good content, right?
735
00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:03,208
Like you could do a whole different vector there.
736
00:40:03,208 --> 00:40:05,833
You could do a whole different, the whole #MeToo movement.
737
00:40:05,833 --> 00:40:11,166
You can get separate more interviews with Joi Dickerson-Neal and other women like this
just so much.
738
00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:14,000
a whole Pandora's box is now open.
739
00:40:14,250 --> 00:40:18,958
And I'm sure that there's other people trying to get ahold of some of these people.
740
00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:20,083
Um-hmm.
741
00:40:20,083 --> 00:40:26,333
To make content. Because people want, it’s like the National Enquirer, people want to see more and more of this, so...
742
00:40:26,375 --> 00:40:29,083
The statement from Fonzworth!
743
00:40:29,083 --> 00:40:29,833
Yeah.
744
00:40:29,833 --> 00:40:31,833
No shortage of footage coming up.
745
00:40:31,833 --> 00:40:34,833
If they get Fonzworth man, the Internet's going to break.
746
00:40:36,791 --> 00:40:37,791
The Internet will break.
747
00:40:37,791 --> 00:40:39,583
That's the day the internet will break.
748
00:40:39,583 --> 00:40:41,416
Everybody get out your parasols.
749
00:40:41,625 --> 00:40:45,041
seriously, parasols and bow ties.
750
00:40:45,041 --> 00:40:45,458
Yeah.
751
00:40:45,458 --> 00:40:47,333
Yeah, no recovery from this one.
752
00:40:47,333 --> 00:40:48,083
Yeah.
753
00:40:48,083 --> 00:40:48,916
No way out!
754
00:40:51,208 --> 00:40:53,333
It really is all about the Benjamins.
755
00:40:58,041 --> 00:41:00,333
Thanks for tuning in to the Hip Hop Movie Club Show.
756
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:04,500
I'm Dyno Wright, filmmaker, designer, longtime hip hop fan.
757
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,291
I got no info for the DEA.
758
00:41:08,916 --> 00:41:12,708
I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, long time hip hop fan.
759
00:41:12,708 --> 00:41:19,833
And as a big fan of Sting and the Police, I was never happy that Diddy was permitted to
use every breath you take for his Biggie tribute song, I'll Be Missing You.
760
00:41:19,833 --> 00:41:20,708
you.
761
00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:24,208
Yeah, oddly enough, I was never a fan of that one either.
762
00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:27,125
But Sting is getting paid off that song though.
763
00:41:27,791 --> 00:41:30,833
That's the good, that's the upside of it.
764
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,833
He's getting paid.
765
00:41:32,916 --> 00:41:33,708
He's so paid.
766
00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:35,041
oh
767
00:41:35,041 --> 00:41:35,625
yeah, man, I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan.
768
00:41:35,625 --> 00:41:35,875
You
769
00:41:36,333 --> 00:41:37,875
yeah, man, I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan.
770
00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:47,625
since we mentioned Biggie, I remember when Juicy first dropped and one of my boys and I,
walked up and down the Seaside Heights boardwalk all day playing that song on repeat in
771
00:41:47,625 --> 00:41:49,208
the summer of 94.
772
00:41:49,791 --> 00:41:51,291
What a time to be alive.
773
00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:52,083
Yeah.
774
00:41:53,625 --> 00:41:57,958
and remember don't hate debate Debate this documentary man oh
775
00:41:57,958 --> 00:42:00,958
There’s no debate on this one. No debate on this one.
776
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,333
I was waiting to see if you would say “lubricate”!
777
00:42:03,333 --> 00:42:05,625
Oh man
778
00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:08,250
Should have. Should have. Baby oil.
779
00:42:08,250 --> 00:42:09,416
Baby oil.
780
00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:14,208
I'm all for moisturization, but it's a little too much.
781
00:42:14,208 --> 00:42:15,083
This is beyond the pale.
782
00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:17,208
slippery when wet.