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Welcome back everybody.

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This is week 45 of Creative.

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Come Follow me for the Old Testament and this week we get

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to enjoy the book of Daniel, and trust me, you're gonna enjoy it.

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, we have six chapters.

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It's not that hard to cover.

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It's also a lot of familiar stories.

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So if your kids have been missing the story component of the old Testa,

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Daniel's gonna bring it back strong.

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These are gonna be familiar to you, but I promise you that as you dive a little bit

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deeper, you're gonna find hidden treasures that you didn't even know were there.

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That's what my week has been filled with and I just can't wait

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to teach you the book of Daniel.

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Here are a few things that you'll wanna know as you head in.

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So Daniel is in part of that initial.

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Exile into Babylon so that the siege of Jerusalem actually

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covers about 20 years of time.

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And so when Babylon captures Jerusalem, they take people away in waves.

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Daniel's in that very first wave, at least we think that, um, what the

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king does is he wants to kind of.

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Pillage those who can contribute to Babylonian society.

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So Daniel is likely somewhere in a noble family, at least that's what the Bible

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Bible dictionary teaches that he is from some kind of nobility and he's incredibly

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bright and talented, and he and his three friends, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,

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those are their Babylonian names.

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What you're gonna learn about that in a minute, but they all get

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carried off and going to Babylon.

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What's powerful to me about their story is that they teach you how to live in the

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world, but not become a part of the world.

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And after hearing President Nelson talk to us at conference about this

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idea of us choosing to overcome the world and giving us tips on how we

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can accomplish that and why it's worth our time, I feel like Daniel's

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message is that he basically teaches you how to be yourself in a world full.

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Other opinions and people pressuring you to assimilate and all kinds of things.

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He also teaches you how to do it with dignity and grace and compassion.

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He's, he's not brash and in your face.

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In fact, he really reminded me of Joseph in Egypt.

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So if you loved reading Joseph's story and how he found ways to be

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successful, no matter if he was in Potter, her's house or in a prison, or.

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Next to Pharaoh.

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Daniel has that same kind of feel.

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He'll serve several kings in Babylon.

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In fact, I don't know that we, as far as I can tell, he never gets back to Jerusalem.

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He will spend his whole life serving various kings who are in powered

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there, and he does incredible work.

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In fact, one of my favorite lines from President Nelson's talk is that he

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talks about how this quest to overcome the world is a lifetime challenge.

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And that's what you get to read this week.

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You guys we're gonna see Daniel's lifetime pass before our eyes,

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and you'll see how he chooses to overcome the world at every turn.

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Not just Daniel, but his friends as well.

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And it is so good.

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So I promise you're gonna love it.

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Grab your scriptures, grab your notes, and let's get.

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In pretty much every chapter of the six that we're reading this week, there

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is an experiment upon the word, you know, like Alma taught us back in Alma

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32, that if you plant a good seed, you yield good fruit, and if you plant a bad

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seed, it won't, and you can cast it out.

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And each chapter hits this a little bit differently.

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Chapter one is focused on these boys being brought up in the court of the.

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Basically they have three years to be raised and taught in the court, and

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then they'll be eventually presented before the king, and in that interim,

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they're supposed to assimilate.

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You're gonna see that in the verses.

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So if you're looking four, you see these were children of no blemish

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that are well favored and skillful, and that they might teach them.

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This is the end of verse four.

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They might teach the learning and the tongue of the caldeans.

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The goal here is that these kids, Become Babylonians, basically, that they'll learn

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the traditions, they'll learn the ways.

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I think a piece of that will be because they want the other Jews

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to see these nobles assimilate and then be easier to manage.

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I think there's something about if you can get the elite to, you know, to

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join your ways, then things are easier.

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So one of the first things that happens is in verse seven it says that they're

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given new, So they're changed from their Hebrew names to these Babylonian names.

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Interestingly, Daniel's name stays Daniel, that's his Hebrew name, and

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that's how we'll know him the whole time throughout these chapters.

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But Shadrach, Meshek, and Abednego are their Babylonian names, and somehow

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we, we know those women instead, So, But it was the idea of changing their

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names That actually jumped out at me.

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I think the reason is because of that single adult fire side that I told you

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guys about the, I guess, young adult fire side where President Nelson talked

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to those young adults and he said, Don't let any label of the world supersede the

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three most important labels, and that is your child of God, a child of the

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covenant, and a disciple of Jesus Christ.

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And that's, I think, what they're trying to do here subtly by

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giving them Babylonian names.

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Helping them forget or maybe hoping that they'll forget who they are and

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whose they are, and it's just this slow process of hoping to change them.

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What's so cool about these boys is they don't change, but they seem to know

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when to push boundaries and when to not.

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They don't seem to resist having their names changed, but they do

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resist the diet that comes their way.

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So if you go a couple versus down, you see that they're basically invited.

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Encouraged to eat the King's meat and drink the King's wine.

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But I love how it's phrased.

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In verse eight, it says, But Daniel purposed in his heart that he

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would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor

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with the wine in which he drank.

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Therefore, he requested of the Prince of the Unix that he might not defile himself.

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He didn't make a big stand.

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He didn't, you know, tip the plates over and throw everything on the floor.

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He seems to show respect and temperance.

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And asked to abstain.

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I really think there is a key in this.

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For us specifically, you have to learn or you have to remember that how old

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these kids are, if they're in their, you know, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 range,

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for them to be able to withhold from the king's meet is pretty impressive.

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You know, we're at that time where your kids probably have a whole

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stash of Halloween candy that they.

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Poured through and they've eaten pounds more than they should have.

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That's the same age that Daniel and his friends are, and they have

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been taught well enough or feel the spirit about this strongly

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enough that they choose to abstain.

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And I think that's pretty remarkable.

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But I love the way they go about it.

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There is a, there is a patience in their approach that I think is pretty remark.

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And you learn how it works for them.

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In the next verse, so when you go into nine, it says, Now, God had

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brought Daniel into favor and tender love with the prince of the Unix,

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so the man who's in charge of them.

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Kind of like the situation we saw with Esther where she won the hearts of other

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people at court and therefore was trusted.

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That's what's happening with Daniel.

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Same thing we saw happen with Joseph.

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What I love about this is I feel like this is the promise that if you

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choose to honor God first, if you choose to love God, he will teach you

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how to love others, how to love your fellow men, how to love your neighbor.

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He will also help those fellow men and neighbors love you

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and see the goodness in you.

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That I think, is a remarkable promise, and you see it fulfilled in Daniel.

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It goes a little further and you see this test, right?

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The one that you've read about all your life.

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This is where they basically come to.

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That guy who's over them and they say, Give us 10 days.

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We just want to eat the foods that are.

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It doesn't specifically say that those foods, the wine and the meat

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are outside of the law of Moses.

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In fact, we know that within the love of Moses, you can eat

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meat and you can drink wine.

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So this is kind of an odd, We don't know exactly.

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It's possible that these things, the specific meats they were referencing

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are against that, that law.

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But it's also possible that they just wanted to be distinct and different, that

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they were seeking a way to say to each other and maybe to those around them.

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We are still set apart.

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We're gonna live in Babylon, but we're gonna be ourselves.

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I think this is what, what they're trying to teach with the

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strength of the youth lately.

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Now, the idea is that you're going to create boundaries, not because

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there is a checklist for you to follow, but because you've made a

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covenant with God that you will be.

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Distinct and different in happy ways.

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You will stand out when the time is right and I feel like that

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might be what's happening here.

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It may not be against their code, it might just be a choice they make.

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There's a great story in the notes.

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If you go in, I think it was.

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Oh, I can't remember who said it.

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It's in the notes, but it's one of the apostles.

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And he talked about how he ran into problems in business meetings because

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they would have these cocktail hours.

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So for a lot of times he wouldn't go.

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And then his boss said, No, you're missing key business opportunities.

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You need to go to the cocktail hours.

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Just don't drink the alcohol.

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And so he chose to instead go and drink the Sprite.

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But he said it looked so much like the other alcoholic beverages that he felt

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like he was sending the wrong signal.

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He went and spoke to the bartender and got a glass of milk and , and

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he was very distinct and different.

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And he talked how at first he got a lot of jarring and was kind of teased.

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And then over the course of time, because he was distinct and different,

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he made business relationships that would've passed him by if

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he just blended into the crowd.

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That's what you're gonna see with Daniel, where his uniqueness and his choice to.

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Have integrity blesses him and blesses others around him.

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It's so good you guys, so watch for it.

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As you study this week, basically what happens is at the 10 they,

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they ask to put this to the test.

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They say, Let us eat our own food for 10 days, and then just

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look at our counts and see.

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And at the end of 10 days, their accountance was fair and they were fatter.

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You know, I don't think it means physically fatter, but they

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looked healthier than the others.

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What I thought was really powerful is that's what the world can see.

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That's what this prince of the Unix can see.

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It'll be what the king can see, their countenance, their overall physical look.

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What they can't see is what, what they were blessed with also.

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That's in verse 17.

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As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all

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learning and wisdom, and Daniel had understanding in all visions and.

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That's the blessing of keeping the standards of God.

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It's not just about our health.

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It's not just about how we look on the outside, those standards and for

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the strength of the youth and the word of wisdom and all those physical

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commandments that we, we think about.

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They don't just yield physical blessings.

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They, They yield deeper spiritual gifts that we will need.

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Daniel will interpret dreams that will save people's lives.

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Their ability to learn fast will help them stand out.

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Above all the other kids in this program, they are blessed with the

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skills they need to accomplish the work God has for them, and they needed to.

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Step up to a standard in order to accomplish that.

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I just think sometimes we teach this like a word of wisdom story and it is,

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but it's also so much more the same way you can teach for the strength of the

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youth and talk about how it helps you be safe and it helps you be healthy.

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And you could talk about it like that or you can take it deeper

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and say, God will always love you.

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He wants to love and bless you, not just physically, but with the gifts and

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the talents and the abilities you need to withstand the Babylon you live in.

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And the way to get those blessings is to choose this higher standard,

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whether the world sets it for you or the church sets it for you, live higher,

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and then watch the blessings roll in by the end of this chapter you see.

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get to the end of those three years, they stand before the king

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and he can see that they are 10 times better than anybody else.

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And that sets the stage for what we're gonna see in chapter two.

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You're gonna get total Joseph Fis when you read chapter two, because this is

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when King Nene has a dream that troubles him and he turns to his wise men to try

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and get an interpretation of the dream.

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And of course, none of them can do it.

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But thankfully, we have someone who lived a higher standard and received the

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spiritual gift of interpreting dreams.

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And now, That comes into play.

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So you see it kind of pulled through in chapter two.

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This is when you learn about his dream.

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But what's interesting is he doesn't tell you what his dream is, and he

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doesn't tell the wise men either.

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So he basically puts out a challenge to the wise men in his.

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Ruled and says, Not only do I want you to interpret the dream, I want

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you to tell me what the dream was.

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This is where you wanna watch the footnotes cuz it gets a little confusing.

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But essentially what you've learned is that the king remembers

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his dream, he knows what it is.

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He wants to put his magicians and.

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Wiseman and sourcers to the test.

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This is another experiment upon the word, but this time it's bad seed.

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These magicians don't have the skills.

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They don't have the ability or the connection to

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revelation to give the dream.

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In fact, that's what they say to thinking.

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They say in verse 10, There is not a man on the earth that

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can show the king this matter.

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They are willing to interpret the dream, but they cannot read the king's

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mind to know what the dream was.

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That's the king putting them to the test and that sea doesn't grow and so

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all of a sudden he's skeptical, right?

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So he turns to another source.

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But there has to be something that happens in the middle.

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Basically what happens is he says, If you guys can't interpret dreams,

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cuz their answer comes in 11, where they say, Only the gods could read

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your mind and tell you what it means.

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And the gods don't deal with men of the flesh.

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So essentially what they're saying to the king.

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We know we're supposed to be your channel to talk to the gods, but the gods

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don't actually talk to us, which makes them completely useless to the king.

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And you can tell that cuz he sends out a decree in the next verse

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that all of them are gonna die.

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Now since all of the wise men in this gigantic kingdom are gonna die, Daniel

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and his friends are included in that mix.

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So when he hears about that happening, he's concern.

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But here's what I love about Daniel.

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He has temperas, right?

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So if you look when the decree goes out in verse 13, in 14, then Daniel answered with

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counsel and wisdom to the captain of the kings garden that was gone forth to slay.

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So this is, they're about to kill all these wise men and he steps

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forth in counsel and wisdom aren't those interesting word choices?

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I just feel like that means he probably talked to his friends, he probably

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took counsel from those who were similarly minded, who have also have.

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That the Lord has given them, and then they respond in wisdom.

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The way they respond is to ask more questions.

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So I think this is a key way for us to live in Babylon

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and not become like Babylon.

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We have to.

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Not get easily shocked, . We have to show patience, but we also have to act.

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And the way he acts is to say, I need more information.

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I'm not understanding.

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Help me understand why the king feels this way.

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So that's what happens in 15.

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He wants to know why is the king in such a hurry?

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To, you know, execute everyone.

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And then he learns what happened.

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And so he basically says to the king, Could you give me more time?

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Can you gimme some time to think about this?

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And then they powwow together.

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So in 17, Daniel went to his house and made the thing known to his companions.

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So these are those.

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three Shara Meach and a Bengo.

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They list their Hebrew names in that verse, but he turns to them and

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he asks them to counsel together.

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It feels like Esther, when she's fasting with her maidens before they, before she

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can go into the king, they come together.

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I loved studying this concept cuz I think there is not just power in a group prayer

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like this, but there is joy in unity and there's a great talk from elder.

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All about this in the notes, but this idea that heavenly Father often

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creates opportunities for us to be unified so that we can experience

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deeper joys together, and that's what you're gonna see with these.

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So if you look in 18, they pray for tender mercies, um, of God, and

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then within one verse they get it.

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Now, I don't know how many hours pass between when they're praying for

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these mercies to come and when the answer comes, but the answer comes

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to Daniel cuz he's been given the spiritual gift of interpreting dreams.

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So it says in 19, then the secret was revealed and to Daniel in a night vision.

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So after they've come together, after they've prayed and counseled,

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then the answer comes, isn't.

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Helpful . I, I think sometimes we think, Oh, he's a prophet and he's

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gonna know things automatically.

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And I think it takes counsel and it takes time and it takes prayer

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and fasting the same way it does for us no matter who they are.

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So you see that process play out for Daniel, and then it

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says that he, Thanks God.

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I love that to get the answer is one verse to thank God for giving

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him the answer is like six verses.

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He's so grateful for the wisdom and the might.

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He continually talks about how it's God's wisdom and God's might

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that has been shared with him.

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I love how it's phrased in at the end of 22 it says, Well, let

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me read the whole of the verse.

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He says he reveal with the deep and secret things, he knoweth what is in

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darkness and the light dwelleth with him.

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I especially love it if you go in the notes, there's a lot of links to the

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doctrine covenants where you learn about God being the father of light and how

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he wants to give us more and more light, and it grows brighter and brighter.

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That's what's happening to Daniel and his friends keeping the standard.

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Give them an opportunity to receive more light using it

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the way that God wants them to.

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Using their spiritual gifts to bless others increases that light.

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And that's what you'll see over the course of the chapter.

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So he has the interpretation of the dream.

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He turns to the guy who's over them and he says, I, I can do this.

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Can I get before the king?

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What I love is what he says to him in at the end of 24.

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He asks, Destroy not the wise men of baby.

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Daniel's not just looking out for himself and his friends.

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He's gonna save the lives of all those sourcers and magicians and people who have

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nothing in common with him who are even working against him in future chapters.

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Uh, but he saves their lives anyway.

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I, I think he's a type of Christ in a lot of ways, and this is a big one.

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Um, so he gets before the king, and the king in 26 says, Are you able, Basically

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what you have to love is how Daniel.

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Because even though the king said, Can you do this?

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What Daniel replies over and over again is, It's not me.

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Yes, I can, but it's not me.

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So he says, But there is a God in heaven that reveal these

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secrets and making them known.

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And then in 30, But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom.

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It's not that I have any special talents or gifts.

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It's revealed through me so that you can know King, what God wants you to know.

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And then he interprets the dream.

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And this is where you've, you've probably seen the statue that has different kinds

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of, They're super expensive metals like gold at the very top, and then it goes

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slowly down to different kinds of metals on this great big warrior statue, and

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by the time you get to his feet, it's this compilation of clay and iron.

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And the prophets have already kinda laid this out in the institute manual.

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You can read some quotes, but they talk about how this

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is basically seeing history.

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In the future, like he's seeing our history laid out ahead of

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him in the different reigns.

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So this is the Babylonian reign.

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And then as you go down to the silver of his arms and his shoulders and

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his breast, that's supposed to be the next reign, that will be the Persians.

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And you can go in the notes and learn the whole thing.

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But he's basically talking about how there will be these great kingdoms

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of the world, this, these world powers that will dominate things.

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And then slowly that will break down into smaller powers.

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And then even.

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The Kingdom of God will roll forth.

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That's where you learn about the stone.

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Oh you guys, I had to do an object.

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Listen about this cuz I just love these verses.

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It's in 34.

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He says That was sauce till that a stone was cut out without

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hands, which sm smoked the image.

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So this stone comes out of the mountain without any help from men and rolls

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forth, and it tumbles into this statue, Breaks it to pieces, not just breaks

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it, but like crumbles it to dust, It compares it to like a threshing floor

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where all the seeds scatter in the wind.

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It's that same idea that it's gonna, it's gonna break it all.

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What I thought was really cool is the way he phrases it at the end of 35, it says,

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And that no place was found for them, and the stone that smelt the image became a

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great mountain and filled the whole earth.

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This is a phrase that Joseph Smith teaches in the doctrine covenants

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as well, and he talked about how this isn't a stone that's gonna.

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Snowball.

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It's not that kind of stone.

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It's something that will begin in a small radius.

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He compares it to like a millstone, I think.

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Um, and it's, oh no, it's a, a grinding stone, but it's this circular kind of

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donut stone, and he says, It's gonna start small and then as it spins, it's

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gonna get wider and wider, and pretty soon it will fill the whole earth.

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And I don't think this is just a, you know, kind of military like kingdom.

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I think this is the hearts of the people when he describes this stone

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rolling forth and covering the kingdom.

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It is.

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The hearts that are now united.

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I mean, think how many different countries have so many different governments, and

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yet all of these saints that live in these countries, we all unite under this kingdom

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of God, even before the Savior is here.

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Right?

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We are coming together as a kingdom of God.

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Rolling forth.

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So that's the image that he teaches, the king.

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He tells him that what the dream.

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What the dream meant.

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And then the king honors him because he can see that he is someone who

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has access to the actual living God.

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And that's a pretty powerful promise.

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So as you can see, if you go in the verses a little bit further as he

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interprets it, the king worships, he worships Daniel, he honors him.

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It's kind of tricky this week because the king.

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Oftentimes will praise God.

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And then one chapter later, he is not praising God and he's worshiping other

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things and building giant statues.

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So you sort of have to keep that in check.

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You, you want to believe that this is gonna be one of those Booka Mormon,

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King Lamona and King Mona's dad conversion stories, but it's not.

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It's a heart that.

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Flip flops.

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It's almost like this king is the same kind of man who has an opportunity to

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give away all his riches and come to know God, and he just never quite gets there.

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But you're gonna see him change.

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I think it's, it's powerful.

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It teaches you about the strength of Daniel and his friends.

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That even though this king never fully converts to the gospel of Jesus Christ,

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he does change at pivotal moments, and I think that's, that says something about

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the missionary work that they're doing.

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I don't think we have to have full conversions in order to have our

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missionary efforts matter, that this matters significantly, even though

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this King's heart never fully changes.

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But that'll kind of become more clear as you jump into chapter three.

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As a result of Daniel's ability to interpret the dream, all four of them

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are promoted to positions of power, not necessarily in the greater kingdom,

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but at least over all those wise men and sourcers and advisors to the king.

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And this is really big province.

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In the notes, I give you a link to a map so you can see

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how big Babylon's Empire is.

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So it's a, it's an important position of power and that creates, Really quickly

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in those, especially those other wise men and counselors, they want to get

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these Jews out and they can't find any fault in them personally, much like

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you see with the scribes and Pharisees trying to deal with the savior.

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So they try and get at them via religion.

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And chapter three is a really famous story about that.

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This is where they're, they make a gigantic statue.

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So King Ezer makes a huge, I mean, we're talking 90 feet tall, nine feet

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thick, huge, at least gold plated.

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Statue and they set up this plan that there's gonna be music

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that plays and everybody's gonna need to bow down and worship.

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And this creates a similar problem to what we saw in chapter one, where

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they've made covenants with God that they will only worship one God.

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And so they choose not to bow down.

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And that's where the trap happens, because the consequence is you're gonna get thrown

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in a fiery furnace if you don't bow down.

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And interestingly, everybody's gather.

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So all the kings are all the kings, like, you know, second in command guys and

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all the members of the rural household.

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And everybody is there.

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They've all been gathered and there's this social pressure to bow.

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And what's interesting is how these three get singled out.

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Basically, those who are envious of their positions say to the king, Hey, did you.

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Who didn't bow?

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It's these certain Jews.

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So if you look in verse 12, it says, There are certain Jews whom now has set over

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the affairs of the province of Babylon.

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They give their names and then they say, Oh, King, they have not regarded

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the, they serve, not they gods.

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They're trying to call attention to their distinct and differentness

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and get them in trouble.

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So they get thrown in the furnace.

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And it's really fascinating to me that they call them certain j.

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Because I guess I wonder if maybe there are lots of other Jews who did bow

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just because of all the social pressure and they don't wanna cause waves and

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they don't wanna, you know, they just wanna let things roll and I think

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there's a lot of pressure for us today.

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in that same same vein where I feel like not just in social media but in the world

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at large where I'm supposed to bow or just kind of take on, I'm supposed to

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assimilate into the world and just take on their viewpoints on family and marriage

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and lots of areas where I feel like I'm being pushed to believe certain things,

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or at least to vocalize certain things.

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And that's why I love this phrase.

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There are certain Jews who aren't, cuz no matter how many of their own

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faith choose to bow down these certain.

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Choose not to.

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They choose to love God first, even at their own peril,

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and that's inspiring to me.

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I think it's what the prophets are asking us to do in all their

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talks lately, they're asking you to first of all be certain.

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Do you remember that talk?

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I can't.

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Is it Linda Burton?

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That one about certain women in the New Testament.

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I feel like you can apply those same principles here, that

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this isn't just certain Jews, meaning there are certain ones.

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I think you can also.

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To mean they are certain they have, They have become centered in who they are and

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what they know, and they can then stand.

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In fact, I think if we want our kids to be able to stand like these

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three, they need to have a sense of certainty about their testimony.

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It's why President Nelson in the last conference invited us to take hold of

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our testimony to take ownership of it.

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That's powerful, the doctrine because it allows you to be certain in these key.

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It's a great talk from, It's a BYU devotional from President Worthen

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where he talks about holy places.

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And he says, he talks about that scripture that says, you know, stand

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in holy places and be not moved.

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And then when you choose in moments like this to stand for God, you make

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the space, you are in holy ground.

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So you make holy places.

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We often think of holy places as like, you know, being in the temple

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or being maybe in our home or.

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But you can make any place a holy place if you choose to stand for

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what God would want you to do.

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So that's what they're making this pocket of a holy place.

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And remember, there are tons and tons of people and leadership who

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are watching their every move.

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You see this with our general authorities all the time.

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They're in a spot where they.

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Are gonna get all kinds of pressure to assimilate and be like others.

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And they choose to make the ground, they stand holy.

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And you'll see how this plays out as you go to the next page.

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So basically the king comes to them, cause now he's alerted to these three

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guys who aren't bowing down and he doesn't immediately throw them into the furnace.

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He gives them another chance, which tells you if probably a little

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bit about the relationship that the king may not want to lose.

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These very integrity, rich, good leaders, . So he gives him another chance and says,

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Do you realize what the consequences are?

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And then they do this fascinating thing first in 16.

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They say, Oh, Neba, Canne.

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We are not careful to answer the in this matter, meaning I'm not gonna be

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delicate with your feelings right now.

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I'm not worried about saying the wrong thing.

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I'm gonna tell you exactly what I believe.

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Isn't that remarkable?

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I think sometimes when I try to stand up for what I believe, I hedge

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a little and I try to like gauge their responses and cushion my words.

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And what they're saying is in these pivotal moments where you can

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create a holy space, you just speak.

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In fact, the doctor in Covenants teaches that you'll be given the words you

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need in those moments if you choose to speak what God wants you to say.

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So that's what they say.

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We're not gonna be careful with our words.

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Let me tell you what we believe.

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And then 17 and 18 are what they.

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What they say is, if it be so, our God will deliver us.

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If we are gonna get cast into that furnace, our God can deliver us.

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He doesn't say they, He will deliver them.

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He says they, He can deliver them.

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That's really important because he says if he chooses to, he will deliver

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us out of eye handing and then 18.

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But if not, be it known unto the O King that we will not serve by Gods that.

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An incredible statement of faith that no matter what comes, whether they're in an

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OB Ben I type moment where they are in the heat and the flames and they, their

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life is over, they will stand with God.

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They know he can deliver and they also know that sometimes God chooses

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not to and that his purposes and his.

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Are so much grander than we can picture, and so we just trust.

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In fact, there's some incredible quotes in the notes about this, but I really

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love how this ties into elder bed.

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Ours talk about choosing not to be healed.

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Do you have the faith to be healed and the faith not to be healed?

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If you haven't read that talk lately, it's so good you guys.

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It helped me in some really pivotal moments with Jason's

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disease, and I feel like that's what they're inviting us to do.

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It's this invitation to.

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Your integrity and say, No matter how the chips fall, this is where I stand.

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Um, and it doesn't go well for them.

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And we'll see that as we go into the next half of this chapter.

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I think what's most powerful about their decision to say clearly to the king.

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He can deliver us, but if not, is that they've taken all power

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and fear out of the situation.

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They've left everything up to God, which makes the king not be

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able to wield power over them.

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The king's power comes in them being afraid of death.

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If they're not afraid of death, then.

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What, what do I have to worry about?

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What the king thinks or what the king will do?

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So the king feels that lack of power, and he's not happy about it.

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So he has them increase the temperature of the furnace.

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It says seven times, which usually in the Old Testament means perfect or full.

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So this is like cranking the furnace up to full capacity.

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Um, It's so hot that the people who carry these bound men up to

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the furnace die in the process.

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But I think it's really powerful to see what happens next.

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So the death of those men come in 22, and then in 23 it says, And

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these three men, Shadrach, Meek, and a Bendigo fell down, bound into the

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midst of the burning fiery furnace.

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Midst means middle.

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It doesn't just mean in the area of.

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In my mind when I read this verse, I don't think this is them kind of

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tumbling in because the other guys died.

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I think this is, they walked in and then they knelt down.

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So many times in scripture we read about people falling down in prayer

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and adoration, and I could be wrong.

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This is just my opinion, but it also, it reminded me so much of

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that verse in the Book of Mormon, when the ne fights are about to

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fight the Lamanites and they're so.

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Outnumbered, uh, that when they get to that frontline, they bow and the lamanites

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are charging forward, thinking that they're gonna be weak and submissive.

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And you know, they see them bow down and think, Oh good, the battle's almost over.

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And then right as the Lamanites get close, they rise and battle

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and like fight like lions.

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That's, that's what this reminds me of.

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This is they kneel and.

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Are loose.

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It's so cool.

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So if you go further in the verses, the king sees them in there and he

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says, Didn't we cast three people in?

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And his servant says, Yes.

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We cast three people in.

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And then in 25 he answered and said, Low, I see four men loose walking in the

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midst of the fire and they have no hurt.

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And the form of the fourth is like the son of God.

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That's a king speaking.

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He sees four men in the fire.

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It doesn't just see four men.

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He sees them walking around loose.

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Oh, you guys.

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This image is so powerful in my mind because oftentimes I think in our

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hottest fires of affliction, God creates a way for us to walk around loose.

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I only know this from my own personal experience, and you'll have your own,

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but in some of the most intense, hard times during our cancer battles, It

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sure seems like we should be crumbling.

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In fact, people will often come to us and say, You don't always

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have to put on a good face.

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You don't always have to be smiley.

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You know, And we're not always for sure, but there are times when I know we should

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be crumbling based on the outside fire that is around us, and yet we feel like

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we're walking around loose, that there is someone with us carrying us to make

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the burdens weren't carrying lighter.

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I don't know how to explain it.

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I can.

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I can't help others who see me understand it.

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I just feel it and I just get to testify of it, that there will be times in your

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hottest fires when you kneel down and you pray for guidance and you pray for help.

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And he will find a way not to take you out of the fire, but to find a

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way to help you walk around loose.

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And generally, I think it comes because there are ministering angels who.

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Lift us people that we don't even see.

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I sometimes wonder how much they understood or saw within the fire that,

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that the king could see from the outside.

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But when they emerge, cuz he calls them out.

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When they emerge, they say that there was an angel that came

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because that's what happens in 28.

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He says he has sent his angel and delivered his

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servants that trusted in him.

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I love the phrase you see in 28.

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This is the King speaking and he says they have changed the king's word and yielded

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their bodies that they might not serve nor worship any God except their own God.

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That phrase they yielded their bodies, I think is what for the strength

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of youth and the word of wisdom and even our covenants that we make in

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the temple is when we yield over the natural man and all those tendencies.

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We gain power, we gain strength beyond physical, beyond mortal strength even.

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And King, who's an outsider, can see that coming to be.

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So he makes a decree and yet again, he, you know, praises their God.

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He doesn't.

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Fully convert, but he praises their God and makes way for them to not be

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afraid because he puts out a decree that says there's no other God can deliver,

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that can deliver people like this.

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God did and then he promotes Shadrach, Mick, and the Bengo.

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And that's gonna be important for what comes next in chapter four.

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We have another dream that pops up in chapter four.

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This is a different one.

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So Nene again has a dream and again, seeks for interpretation of the dream.

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This is a dream about a great big tree, a healthy thriving tree that

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produces fruit and then gets chopped down by some angelic type of creature.

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And the it gets.

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Decimated, right?

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The fruit gets scattered, everything gets broken down, and

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then the root structure is left.

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And there's a curse of madness that is kind of hinted at in the dream,

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and he doesn't know what it means.

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So of course, he turns to every other source the same way he did before.

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Remember, this is the king who never quite commits to this God.

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Uh, it it reminded me a little bit of elder Holland's talk from last

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October where he said like, There's no halfway mes in the gospel.

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You can't be halfway in.

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You have to be all in.

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And this king never quite gets there, but.

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At the very last resort turns to Daniel.

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And it's interesting to me cuz Daniel's the one who figured out

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his dream the first time really clearly, and he promoted him for it.

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So it makes you wonder why he wouldn't turn to him first.

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And then I had this humbling moment from the spirit where , there's

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been lots of times when I receive an answer to a prayer.

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, you know, by going into my personal scripture study, my family scripture

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study, going to the temple, and then I don't always turn to those sources

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when I need help with something.

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I sometimes will turn to friends or social media or all kinds of things, and I just

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was like reprimanded a little like, Oh, you're not too far off this situation.

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So I.

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At least for me, oftentimes when I am in this spot where I'm seeking

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advice from any other source except God, it's because I know what God's

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answer is gonna be and I don't want it

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And I think that might be what happens with the king.

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I think he knows from the previous proxy that his kingdom

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is eventually gonna topple and get picked up by inferior forces.

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And you know, someone else is gonna rule his.

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And I think he probably knows that's what's coming,

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so he doesn't wanna hear it.

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And, but just like everything else, eventually we need to hear

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what the Lord wants us to know.

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And so Daniel does interpret the dream, but he's troubled by it cuz he

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doesn't want to say this to the king.

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I mean, it says he takes about an hour.

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This is around verse 19 where he.

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He doesn't wanna give the interpretation of the dream, cuz

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honestly you guys, it's not good news.

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And the king just threw his friends in a fire for a smaller thing.

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So you could see where they would be careful.

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Remember Daniel is careful and he, he's never, he never compromises

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his integrity, but he is very thoughtful about his choices.

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And I just think there was so much for me to learn from this.

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If you're gonna live in the world and not become like the world you have, Careful.

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You have to be temperate.

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You have to seek guidance from the Lord at every single step,

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and that's what he's doing.

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Eventually, the prompting is that he's supposed to tell the king exactly

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what the dream means, and so he does.

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He basically says to the king, This is gonna happen.

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Your kingdom's gonna get overrun.

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You are going to have a curse of madness that will come over you.

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You're gonna end up being in the fields and eating the same

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way animals do like it's a.

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Severe curse, like he's gonna lose his mind a little bit and they're gonna

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cast him out of the kingdom for a time.

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And all of this is gonna come to be, but interestingly,

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there's a delay that happens.

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I love what you see in first 27.

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So after Daniel starts to tell him about what this prophecy or this dream

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means, he says, Where for king, let my council be acceptable unto the, and break

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off thy sins by righteousness and thy iniquities by showing mercy to the poor.

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If it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility, I don't think.

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What the king is going to do is going to change the fate of this prophecy.

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This prophecy will be fulfilled.

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What he can do is change how it impacts him.

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Daniel's inviting him to change his future.

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So he's saying, Oh, king, shake off the chains by which you're bound.

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You can't save your kingdom, but you yourself can be saved if

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you will take care of the poor, if you will cast off your sins.

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Don't you love that invitation that the prophets, even in these moments where

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they have this mighty prophecy about the fate of nations, they still go

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back to, How can I minister to the one?

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If I just could take care of this person in this room, what should I say?

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And the spirit says, Tell him to shake off his sins.

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Tell him to take care of the poor, and he can have a chance

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to not have these consequences.

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But it sure doesn't sound like the king takes it cuz 12 months pass

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without any of these consequences.

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And he gets pretty comfortable.

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So in 30 you see that he says, Is this not the great Babylon

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that I have built for the king?

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Like he, he's kind of patting himself on the back to say, I,

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this is a pretty impressive city.

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And if you go in Wikipedia and look up Babylon, like it is an impressive city.

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It's actually gorgeous what we, what we've discovered.

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So, Incredible what was built, and he's feeling pretty good.

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And then he hears a voice fall from heaven that says this is in

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31, The kingdom is departed from.

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It's interesting because the kingdom hasn't fallen yet.

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In fact, he'll get his kingdom back first season even after this verse.

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But his choice to ignore the prophet to not depart from his

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sins, to not take care of the poor, means his kingdom is departed.

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It's tempting to think that that is the kingdom of Babylon.

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But sometimes I wonder if this is in an eternal kingdom, cuz ne Canez is still

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gonna rule later on in these verses.

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He'll, he'll have his thrown back after this period of madness.

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So maybe this is a, a bigger warning that his chances for repentance are.

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Our waning and his kingdom is departing from him.

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It just had this kind of hunting sound when I read it.

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Um, so you see this dissent into madness.

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The curse is fulfilled, He struggles, and then eventually

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he gets back on the throne.

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He sees that Daniel's prophecy about the dream has come to pass.

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And so again, he praises this God of Daniel and says, you

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know, take care of these people because their God is a true God.

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It just doesn't.

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You should know when you go into chapter five that you've

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jumped a couple of generations.

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So Nene's Reign is over and now a couple generations later, you have

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this new King Bill Shaar and they'll call Neese are his father, but

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really that just means ancestors.

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So they think there's two, I think generations between them.

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Um, and this one sounds a little younger and more.

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Arrogant.

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He's having a party in front of thousands and he drinks the wine and

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says, Okay, I want those holy vessels.

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Remember those sacred things that way?

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Back in the book of numbers, we learned that if somebody touched

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the holy, sacred things without authorization, they died on the spot.

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remember the studying of the arc?

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So this is a similar situation where he's basically daring God.

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To punish him.

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It almost reminded me of Indiana Jones and like the Lost Ark.

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You know, there there's a cockiness and an arrogance, Andre, and I think

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that's all coming to the surface here because he, with all of his friends,

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they drink wine from these sacred objects and they don't just drink wine.

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They also worship idols in the process.

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So it just seems like.

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A really bold upfront to what these objects are intended to

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do, and this king will die.

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But like by the end of the chapter , it doesn't happen

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immediately like the studying of the arc, but it absolutely happens.

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And I think that's a really good thing to understand upfront.

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So while he's in his merriment, he sees a hand right on the.

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And it's this encoded message.

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It's an arama, but nobody knows what it means.

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And so his countenance changes.

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I thought this was fascinating.

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So in verse six it says, Then the king's countenance was changed and

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his thoughts troubled him so that the joints of his loins were loose and

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his knees smoked one against another.

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Something about seeing this hand right on a wall.

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I don't know if this is a divine hand.

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Some of the footnotes linked to like ether, the brother

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Jared, seeing the hand of God.

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So possibly, um, but he in his wicked state who is doing so.

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Horrifically against God, uh, sees the hand of God, but in an ominous way.

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Remember how we've studied this over and over again in the Old Testament, how

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the God of the Old Testament is a God of mercy and kindness and compassion, but he

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also will be a God of justice, and this is a time when justice is called for.

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So he writes this message on the wall and nobody can.

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and then the queen remembers that there is this guy named

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Daniel who happens to be wise.

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In fact, I love her word choice.

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In 12, she says he is dissolving of doubts.

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Not only is he wi has wisdom, and he has an excellent spirit and

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all these other kind of things.

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I love the phrase and dissolving of doubts.

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I feel like you could say that about our prophets and apostles,

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that they are men who are able to dissolve my doubt, even if they don't

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answer my questions specifically.

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There's steadiness in.

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Calms my heart, . Cause I still have questions that I'm wrestling with

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and things I'm trying to understand better and layers of revelation

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that haven't fully unfolded yet.

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But when I listen to the prophets and apostles speak and the women leaders

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of the church, I feel my adult, my doubts dissolve and my faith swell.

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So I love that, that you feel that with Daniel as.

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So the king comes to him and says, in 14, I've have even heard of the,

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that the spirit of the gods is in the, Remember he's old, Daniel's older now.

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That light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in the,

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He gives him all these praises.

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It's interesting to me that knowing the guy like this is

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in the kingdom, he's never.

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Talk to him before.

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He doesn't know of him specifically.

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Um, and so he promises him gifts just like he would any anyone

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else who can interpret the dream.

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But I love Daniel's response in 17.

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He says, Let that gifts be to thyself and give thy rewards to another.

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I will interpret the dream.

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It.

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It's a lot like we saw with Elisha and Naman.

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Remember Naman wanted to give him all these gifts for healing

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of the leprosy, and Elisha says, I, I don't need that from you.

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I think that tells you a lot about the character of Daniel.

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I also think it tells you that he knows what this dream means.

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This dream what?

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What you'll see as you watch the rest of the dream play out, or this,

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I'm sorry, the writing on the wall.

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When he interprets the writing on the wall, it basically, Your kingdom is over.

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In fact, by the next day it's over.

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And so gifts and lavish things from this king won't matter much . But anyway, it's

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kinda interesting to see how it plays out.

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So if you go into 20, he reminds him that Nevo Canez or his ancestor.

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Also got in this spot where his pride caused his downfall.

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So he wants him to know, even though he is gonna get destroyed here really quick,

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he wants everyone in the room to know that it's the pride that got in the way.

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And he reminds him how that all happens.

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And then he talks in 23.

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That he was basically daring.

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God, in this moment, thou has lifted up thyself against the Lord of

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heaven, and they have brought the vessels of this house before the you

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committed a sin, you knew was a sin.

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Remember, we talked about the difference between weakness

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and rebellion, weakness as.

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Almost always extended.

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Mercy Rebellion is different, and this is rebellion.

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So then you have to love what the wall phrase means.

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So if you look in 25, you can see the actual words that are written on the wall,

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and then he tells 'em what they mean.

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And it means God had numbered the kingdom and finished it in 27.

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Thou art weighed in the balances and Thou Art found wanting.

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There's this great movie, it's called The Knights Tale, that Jason and I used to

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watch early in our marriage, and they used this phrase, I had no idea this phrase was

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in scripture until this week where they say you've been weighed and you've been

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measured, and you've been found wanting.

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It's the there.

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There are some incredible quotes in the notes about this.

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Even Joseph Smith himself talks about there will be a time he knows people

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won't believe him and he wouldn't believe himself either if he were

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somebody else, but he says, , at some point I will be weighed and measured

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and you will know and I will know.

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Like it's this certainty.

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He has a certainty about who he is, and this king will not.

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In fact, if you flip phage, you can see that within one night that he

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gives Daniel the gifts and then in one night his kingdom is overthrown

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and the Persian start coming in.

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Remember I told you Daniel's a lot like Joseph and Egypt because Joseph,

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no matter where he was put, whether it was, you know, in a prison or

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in Podifer house or by the Pharaoh, he rises to a position of power

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because of the character that he has.

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And that's what happens to Daniel as well, even though now

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he's probably in his eighties.

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He's in a position of power.

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He, the, the area of Persia is divided into these three zones,

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and he's one of the presidents, in fact, he's the chief president.

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I don't think, at least from the institute manual, it made it sound

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like, again, this isn't a civic responsibility as much as it is.

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He's over all of those wise men and all the religious leaders of the areas.

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But this is a big.

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A big job and the people who are under him want him out, just like we saw

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with his friends a few chapters ago.

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So they set up a trap and they, they know they can't catch Daniel in

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anything he's actually done wrong.

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It kind of sounds like what we talked about with the savior again, where it

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says at the end of four that there was no error found in him, no fault found in him.

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And they realized that in vibe, except we find it against him

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concerning the law of his God.

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So these other wise men who are envious of Daniel's power, If we can

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create a situation where Daniel has to choose between his God and the king.

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We know Daniel will choose God.

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I think this tells you a lot about how Daniel must have lived his life

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around them, that they know exactly where he's gonna stand, and so they

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can actually set up a trap based on that plan, and that's what they do.

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They set out a decree that the king signs that says, if anyone basically

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prays to other gods in these 30 days, then they're gonna get thrown into

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a lions den and the king signs it.

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What I think is really cool is what you see.

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Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his

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house and his windows being opened in his chamber toward Jerusalem.

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He kneeled upon his knees three times a day and prayed and gave thanks

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before his God as he did a fourth time.

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I love that that verse ends with that phrase, because what it tells you is this

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isn't a big defiant moment for Daniel.

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He knows the degree has been signed.

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He knows what the king.

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Threatened, uh, what these other guys are up to, and he's just

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gonna do what he's always said.

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He al has, he's the same kid he was when he was nine or 10, and just coming to

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the court of the king, he's gonna stand.

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For what he believes.

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And I love the simplicity of it.

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There's a great talk from Elgon about holy habits and this idea of almost

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creating a spiritual muscle memory.

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You know, if you've ever done sports and you do so many drills that I remember

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doing volleyball, serving drills forever, , and it's critical cuz when you get into

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a game, That muscle memory kick kicks in and you can serve without being afraid.

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That's basically what Daniel's doing right now.

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He says, I've always prayed three times a day.

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There's a lot of scriptures that tell you why he does it this way, but if you

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go on the notes, you can learn those.

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But he, this is his holy habit and he's gonna continue no

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matter what the consequences are.

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And it, it devastates the king a little bit.

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It tells you they have a good relationship.

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Cuz in 14 when the king realizes that Daniel's gonna need to be thrown,

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Lions then because of this decree, he is sorrowing, the king was sore,

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displeased with himself and set his heart to deliver Daniel so the king.

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Is disappointed, not just in the men who trapped him into this situation,

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but in himself because he was someone who should have been more careful.

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I think all of us have been in this spot where we maybe lost sight

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of our stewardship for a time, or we didn't perform in a calling

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quite like we knew we could have.

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And then you have these moments where you see the consequences of that lack of.

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Kinda slip through your fingers and it's too late and that's,

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that's where the king is.

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But I love what the king does.

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Remember I told you there's lots of experiment upon the

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words moments in these chapters.

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There's another one in six cuz you see this king.

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Who doesn't have a full testimony of the God of the Old Testament.

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You know that he doesn't know Daniel's God intimately, but he knows Daniel

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and he knows Daniel serves this God.

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And so he has a little bit of hope.

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So he takes Daniel to the lions den.

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They have to cast him in, and the king basically says in 16, Thy God, whom now

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serviced continually, he will deliver the.

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I don't think the king knows this for certain, cuz we know the next

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morning he comes worried, but he hopes.

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There's a great quote in the notes, I think from, uh, there's a BYU devotional

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where they talk about how we tend to read that, that verse from the Book

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of Mormon that says, if you can know more, but desire to believe that that's,

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we say it almost like that's a last resort, but that we should see that as.

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Enough that sometimes just a desire to believe is enough to create miracles.

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And that's what happens here.

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He desires to believe, he seals the den with his C so that you

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know, they can tell that it's been sealed and Daniel is stuck in there.

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And then he goes home and he passes the whole night fasting and praying.

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He doesn't want any entertainment.

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He, there's no sleep that comes to him.

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And I love this piece cuz he just has a beginning.

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It's just a fledgling hope, a small desire that this God who Daniel has spoken of,

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who he's watched Daniel serve, can do what Daniel has promised he could do.

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And so he hopes and then he rushes to this den the next morning, opens it up, and

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then with a lamentable voice calls out.

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So that's in 20.

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I think that's important because that means the king didn't fully

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expect this miracle to play out.

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He's just done everything he know.

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To do.

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He stayed up all night.

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He fasted, he prayed.

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He told Daniel that he hopes it will work and he's done everything he can do.

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And then he comes with this sorrow in his voice saying, Daniel, are you there?

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Did your God save you?

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And Daniel answers, and we have to love about Daniel is just like he

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did when he was a young teenager.

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He doesn't take any credit on his own or.

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How he pulled something off.

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He says, My God has sent his angel and has shut the lion's mouths.

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That's in verse 22.

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They have not hurt me for as much as before him.

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My in icy was found in me.

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He didn't claim any credit for this victory.

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He just knows he was innocent before God and therefore was saved in this moment.

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And the king rejoices, he's exceedingly glad.

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That's what 23 says, and then he begins to believe, I think this is what you see.

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President Nelson's invitation to move mountains with our faith.

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That's what's happening here.

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Again, I don't think King DiUS ever fully converts, but think of the

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power of this missionary moment when.

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So many people get to witness this miracle happen, and they know

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that it's because of his belief.

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In fact, that's what you see in 23.

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He was not hurt.

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There was no hurt found upon him because he believed in his God.

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I love that piece of his story.

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Even though the king doesn't necessarily fully take on Daniel's

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God as his own, he says because he believed in his God he was saved.

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That's I think why we have to stand in holy places and be not moved

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because those around us, even those who believe in other things, will see.

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Those moments and will say, There must be something to the God they worship.

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I think I wanna know more.

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It's this invitation to come and to ask and to find out more for themselves.

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And then he gives these promises.

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In 25, 26 and 27, he talks about peace be multiplied unto you.

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He, He talks about Daniel's God that you, you should fear and tremble before

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Daniel's God because he is a living God.

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He's steadfast forever in his kingdom and his dominion will never have an end.

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That's a pretty powerful thing to say from a king of a place like Persia.

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I mean, that's a world dominating king, and he's talking about

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Daniel's God who will have dominion forever that will never go.

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What I love is the way he defines a living.

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God is a God who deliver.

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Rescue with and worketh signs and wonders on heaven and in earth.

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That's a pretty succinct way to define a living God.

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I think what you see in all Daniel's life is a living God is

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someone who gives you temperance in moments when you need patience.

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He gives you words to say when you need to know how to say them.

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Well, he gives you moments.

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You can walk loose in a fire, even though he won't pull you out of it.

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You have moments where you can walk loose and have.

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People on your right hand and on your left right?

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That's a living God.

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He's someone who gives you power to create holy spaces, even

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in really hard circumstances.

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And I think it's someone who gives you power to overcome the

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world cuz he overcame the world.

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When you go all the way back to President Nelson's challenge from his October

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talk, that's what he's inviting us to do, to use our lives to figure out

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how to overcome this world, how to live in Babylon and not be part of it.

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And Daniel's life is just this beautiful template.

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So I hope you enjoy studying him.

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This is, this will take you all the way through the end of this week's study.