1 00:00:01,770 --> 00:00:04,860 Janice Porter: Hello, hello, and welcome to this week's episode 2 00:00:04,890 --> 00:00:09,390 of relationships rule. I am thrilled to have with me today, 3 00:00:09,630 --> 00:00:14,760 St. Rappaport, who actually we met on LinkedIn. And I always 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,090 love that because I start from scratch and then I meet a new 5 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:22,170 connection who turns into a relationship and who knows where 6 00:00:22,170 --> 00:00:25,860 it's gonna go. And this is where it led us. First and foremost. 7 00:00:25,890 --> 00:00:28,350 So first of all, welcome to the show. S T. 8 00:00:28,770 --> 00:00:31,620 ST Rappaport: Oh, thank you so much, Janice. I'm super excited, 9 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:32,370 really excited to be here. 10 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:37,649 Janice Porter: I can't not ask this question because I'm all 11 00:00:37,649 --> 00:00:42,419 about names. And I'm all about sort of word oranges, origins 12 00:00:42,419 --> 00:00:46,889 and people's origins. So I have to first say is your first and 13 00:00:46,889 --> 00:00:51,749 second name s start with St. Is it something that was because 14 00:00:51,749 --> 00:00:54,839 your name is hard to pronounce? Or was it a nickname that how 15 00:00:54,839 --> 00:00:56,699 did you come up with S T? 16 00:00:57,420 --> 00:01:01,740 ST Rappaport: Yeah, so my name is SD. Like four letters es T 17 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:05,700 Iris to buy. Like Estee like Estee Lauder. Just impressed. 18 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:13,950 Yes. spelled differently. Right. Exactly. Um, but when I was in 19 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:19,890 school, I decided four letters was too long. And so it didn't 20 00:01:19,890 --> 00:01:23,010 make my teachers happy. But oh, so 21 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:25,740 Janice Porter: that long ago that long? Because I think SD is 22 00:01:25,740 --> 00:01:30,810 third or fourth grade. Already named es TI. It's very pretty. 23 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,170 Does it? How does it mean? What does it mean? And what language 24 00:01:34,170 --> 00:01:35,160 did that come from? 25 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:37,500 ST Rappaport: It's from Esther from keeper. 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,770 Janice Porter: Yes. That's what I thought, Okay. Because my 27 00:01:40,770 --> 00:01:47,700 grandma's name was Esther. Yeah, they called her se, e s. S i e. 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,370 And I don't know if if you know this, but in the Jewish 29 00:01:53,370 --> 00:01:57,360 religion, when you when you name a child, you, you have to name 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,240 them after someone who's deceased, not someone who's 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,990 living right. Not like John Jr. So I wanted to name my daughter 32 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:10,830 after my grandma. But who died when I was very young. But SE 33 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:18,600 and Esther didn't work for me at that point. Hang on. So I was 34 00:02:19,260 --> 00:02:23,100 looking to name my daughter after my grandma. But I didn't 35 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:26,670 like the name Esther or SE. It was very old fashioned at the 36 00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:30,390 time, I guess. So I just used the initial offer name and her 37 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:33,150 middle name. My daughter's middle name is Aaron. And that's 38 00:02:33,150 --> 00:02:36,120 what we do a lot. I don't know if that worked in your family 39 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,650 the same way. But that's how we sort of took those name names 40 00:02:40,650 --> 00:02:44,460 forward and remembered the people in our family who are 41 00:02:44,460 --> 00:02:48,210 gone. So yeah, that's good. But that's, I'm glad I asked because 42 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:53,250 I know that's kind of interesting. And the other thing 43 00:02:53,250 --> 00:02:57,120 I wanted to ask you is now I've forgotten where you live. You 44 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,920 live in Florida, right? Of course they just address you 45 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:04,410 live in Florida, but you're not from Are you from Florida 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,850 originally? No, I grew up in New Jersey. Okay, okay, but you're 47 00:03:08,850 --> 00:03:14,550 American. You are American. I am American. Yeah. Okay. So tell me 48 00:03:14,580 --> 00:03:18,540 a little bit about I'm going to give a little bit of a blurb 49 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:22,020 that I know about you that you are and your title, a brain 50 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:26,370 engineer who works with ADHD entrepreneurs to unleash their 51 00:03:26,370 --> 00:03:30,780 potential via peak brain performance. And you assist them 52 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:34,590 to optimize that ADHD so they can remove that overwhelm, get 53 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:37,860 more done in less time, and enjoy growing their business 54 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:42,930 again. I think what attracted me in the first place was the ADHD 55 00:03:42,930 --> 00:03:47,310 piece, because I believe that the older I've gotten, the more 56 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:51,180 as I say, a DD or ADHD I've become, but I now have a 57 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:55,260 granddaughter who has ADHD. And so I'm learning more about that, 58 00:03:55,290 --> 00:04:00,060 that how their brain functions. And first of all, how did you 59 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:03,360 get into this? And tell me a little bit more about it? 60 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:07,050 ST Rappaport: Yeah, so I've never been diagnosed with ADHD, 61 00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:11,760 but my mom's ADHD, I've got brothers that are ready to eat, 62 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:18,870 like, grew up in a family really high, high energy of ADHD. And 63 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:22,110 so I've been learning about it since I was a really, really 64 00:04:22,110 --> 00:04:27,630 young kid. But essentially, I've been studying brains and brain 65 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:31,470 science and how our brains think and function for a bit more than 66 00:04:31,470 --> 00:04:35,940 eight years now. And the more I got into it, the more I realized 67 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:41,040 it really helped people with ADHD. i It really hurt me that a 68 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,600 lot of what gets spoken about about ADHD is yes, people talk 69 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,660 about the superpower. But what people also talk a lot about 70 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:53,220 when it comes to ADHD is like, what a person can or cannot do. 71 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:55,770 Like they'll always struggle with time or they'll always be 72 00:04:55,770 --> 00:04:58,500 distracted and they're like, you're gonna deal with the fact 73 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:01,050 that this is how it's always gonna be like And to me, that 74 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:04,080 sounds very limiting. I'm not the same person I was five years 75 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,420 ago, and I'm not going to be the same person that it was in five 76 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:10,650 years. And anyone with ADHD is the same thing. And so I really 77 00:05:10,650 --> 00:05:14,280 want got, like with my work was able to see how it really helped 78 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:18,390 people get rid of those struggles and ADHD could just be 79 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:20,490 a superpower without those limitations. 80 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,870 Janice Porter: Hmm. So first thing that came to mind when you 81 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:28,320 said in your background, you have family members who have 82 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,770 been diagnosed with ADHD, did you get tested for it too? Or 83 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:32,580 just they didn't? 84 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:35,820 ST Rappaport: Yeah, I just never got tested for it. I'm most 85 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:39,600 definitely like ADHD traits or tendencies, I guess. Probably 86 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,540 just like, it's a bit of a spectrum, I guess. Right. Like, 87 00:05:42,630 --> 00:05:46,470 how much ADHD right? Compared to the other people in my family? 88 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:47,190 It was a lot. 89 00:05:48,210 --> 00:05:50,970 Janice Porter: Okay, because every time I've listened to you 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,990 on, you know, I've listened to some snippets of you on podcasts 91 00:05:54,990 --> 00:05:59,550 and things you talk really fast. Right? And well, for my family. 92 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:03,540 Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Okay, interesting. And 93 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:07,260 the other thing I thought was fascinating was that you didn't 94 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:08,850 start reading till you were five. 95 00:06:10,590 --> 00:06:14,310 ST Rappaport: I was still going for reading tutors in fifth 96 00:06:14,310 --> 00:06:14,820 grade. 97 00:06:15,030 --> 00:06:17,910 Janice Porter: I mean, was it Einstein that didn't read until 98 00:06:17,910 --> 00:06:19,290 he was seven or something or didn't? 99 00:06:20,370 --> 00:06:24,630 ST Rappaport: Yeah, I was reading an eight 910 11. But 100 00:06:24,660 --> 00:06:28,380 it's really took me to like, did this work at 11 years old, 101 00:06:29,010 --> 00:06:32,310 working on my brain that like I was able to read like, fluidly 102 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:34,170 and not being shy about it and things like that. 103 00:06:34,650 --> 00:06:37,230 Janice Porter: Did you find it frustrating? Before that, 104 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:39,990 ST Rappaport: I was very frustrated. I was super shy 105 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:44,400 about it, I found it. Like, I would have to find all different 106 00:06:44,430 --> 00:06:47,550 techniques and like tactics to like work around it. So I 107 00:06:47,550 --> 00:06:50,100 couldn't so like say I learned from a really young age to like 108 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:53,040 skim books, because like I still wanted to read because I could 109 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,150 read some words, but like old big words I couldn't read. So 110 00:06:57,180 --> 00:07:00,810 till this day, like if I don't force myself to stop and read, 111 00:07:00,810 --> 00:07:04,110 I'm just going to skim and have a really low vocabulary spelling 112 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:06,750 was really bad. Like I got made fun of a lot of it for me, I 113 00:07:06,750 --> 00:07:11,280 never want to be that holdout, which are like us to read. So 114 00:07:11,310 --> 00:07:13,110 yeah, it wasn't it wasn't very funny. 115 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,490 Janice Porter: Well, and, and it's like, I was a teacher. And 116 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:21,000 so I know, it's not easy to and I look, and I watch my 117 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,690 granddaughter, she's in a hurry to do everything. But when it 118 00:07:24,690 --> 00:07:29,130 comes to trying to like to she only four and a half. So she's, 119 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,300 you know, she's still learning about words, and so on as well. 120 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:38,130 But she'd much rather be physical than sit and try and 121 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:41,280 read or try and, you know, do it. But she's got some 122 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,330 interesting concepts that she has, which are kind of cool. But 123 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,770 okay, so you got into this peak brain performance. And I think 124 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:54,810 you say you have there are 28 brain functions. That 125 00:07:55,410 --> 00:07:57,660 ST Rappaport: skills. Yeah, right skills, 126 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,490 Janice Porter: sorry, 28 skills. You say it better than I do. So 127 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,290 explain it to me. Yeah. 128 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,320 ST Rappaport: So there are 28 thinking skills. Or another name 129 00:08:07,410 --> 00:08:10,440 for them is cognitive functions. I just like to say skills 130 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,710 because they're a little bit simpler. But essentially, we 131 00:08:13,710 --> 00:08:16,980 tend to think of thinking as like, oh, now I'm thinking, 132 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:21,060 we're really while you're doing any task, including listening to 133 00:08:21,060 --> 00:08:24,000 this podcast, you're thinking your brain is processing your 134 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,820 brain saying like, how is this relevant to my life? How is this 135 00:08:26,820 --> 00:08:30,960 not what do I like this to it? All that is thinking, driving 136 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,540 your brain is thinking, figuring out can I turn can I not 137 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,810 running, talking to a person talking to a client, all that is 138 00:08:36,810 --> 00:08:42,930 thinking, right? And though those parts of thinking are, 139 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,980 there's 28 of these parts that make up these actions. Now, 140 00:08:46,980 --> 00:08:50,130 naturally, we will have stronger ones and weaker ones, I mean, 141 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:52,680 like with 28 of them, some of them are going to be stronger, 142 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:55,230 right? And some of them are going to be weaker. And those 143 00:08:55,230 --> 00:09:00,150 weaker ones are making it really challenging for us to do what we 144 00:09:00,150 --> 00:09:04,020 want to do. So I'll give you an example. I was just speaking 145 00:09:04,050 --> 00:09:08,940 today to an entrepreneur who was saying how a lot of times he's 146 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:11,970 struggling with employees and with colleagues because it takes 147 00:09:11,970 --> 00:09:15,270 him a really long to express himself and relationships are 148 00:09:15,270 --> 00:09:19,710 really hard for him to build because he right he they asked 149 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:22,530 one question, and he sends back like four long paragraphs or 150 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:25,560 something that could be in like one sentence, and they're like, 151 00:09:25,650 --> 00:09:30,060 I don't get this. That comes from thinking skills, 152 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:33,060 specifically, this case is guns. It's called giving up before 153 00:09:33,060 --> 00:09:35,550 response, being able to express yourself in a clear and cohesive 154 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:35,850 manner. 155 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,320 Janice Porter: Yep. Okay. So what are some of the most common 156 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:47,880 issues that people come to you with who say, you know, my 157 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,720 business is just, I'm all over the map. I can't find I can't 158 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,930 move forward because you know, I can't function properly. What 159 00:09:54,930 --> 00:09:58,470 are the like three most common things that people come to you 160 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:59,460 to help get help with? 161 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:02,100 ST Rappaport: Yeah. so big on just like you said all over the 162 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:05,730 map all over the place, things are just over the super 163 00:10:05,730 --> 00:10:07,980 overwhelmed whenever there's a lot of information getting 164 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:10,020 overwhelmed struggling to get started on task because they're 165 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:13,650 just like way too much information. It's cold, nothing 166 00:10:13,650 --> 00:10:17,010 is skilled that is related to guys called clear perception. 167 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:21,150 Okay? Essentially, we take in information through our five 168 00:10:21,150 --> 00:10:24,870 senses. So you're now taking in this podcast or listening right? 169 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:28,050 When you touch something, you're picking information through your 170 00:10:28,050 --> 00:10:32,760 sense of touch. Most of the time, the information coming 171 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,770 into your brain is coming in in a clear and organized way. But 172 00:10:37,860 --> 00:10:43,080 if there's a lot of information coming in, you get a becomes 173 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,170 blurry, and it becomes overwhelmed. And we just want to 174 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:50,580 not do it ever opened up a room open the door to a really messy 175 00:10:50,580 --> 00:10:52,890 room that you know, you needed to clean. But instead of going 176 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:55,530 in to clean it, you just went out and close the door. Yep. 177 00:10:57,150 --> 00:10:59,970 Janice Porter: I always say to myself, I have to be in the mood 178 00:10:59,970 --> 00:11:05,340 or be ready to tackle that task. Yeah, 179 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:09,420 ST Rappaport: actually is Why do you have to be ready because 180 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:12,600 your brain has to be ready to deal with information overload 181 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,220 that is about to enter your brain. However, the stronger 182 00:11:17,220 --> 00:11:20,430 this thinking skill of clear perception is, the more 183 00:11:20,430 --> 00:11:22,890 information you can take in without overwhelming you. 184 00:11:24,420 --> 00:11:27,600 Janice Porter: So I was listening to you, on my walk the 185 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,010 other day talking. It was your more recent episodes where 186 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:36,780 you're using samples, and stories of people that you've 187 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:41,610 actually worked with. And I think you might say then to 188 00:11:41,610 --> 00:11:46,440 that, you know, try doing one more thing and try doing two 189 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,390 things like you have a method for helping people very quickly 190 00:11:51,570 --> 00:11:56,760 with moving through that. Yes, yeah. Can you give me one of 191 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,530 those examples in this year? 192 00:11:58,710 --> 00:12:03,780 ST Rappaport: Sure. Excited, okay, so because we use our five 193 00:12:03,780 --> 00:12:07,650 senses, to take in information, we're going to help our brain 194 00:12:07,650 --> 00:12:10,530 picking this information through our five senses in a clear and 195 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,850 organized way. So we're gonna go through the five senses, and ask 196 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:20,040 ourselves, what do I see? And literally list out say out loud, 197 00:12:20,250 --> 00:12:24,180 what you see, you open that room, I see laundry, I see 198 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:27,510 papers, I see pens, and what is happening is there. As you're 199 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:31,770 listing it out, your brain is able to take in the information, 200 00:12:31,950 --> 00:12:35,010 one by one, instead of just being overwhelmed by this 201 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,130 massive mess. After you list out a bunch of things that you see, 202 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,580 what do you hear, Oh, I hear the AC is on I hear the cars 203 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:47,190 outside? What do I hear? What do I smell? What do I feel? And 204 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,480 what do I taste tastes will probably just be like your 205 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,490 saliva unless you just drink coffee or something, you know, 206 00:12:53,490 --> 00:12:57,630 like, by just to go through those five senses. And then your 207 00:12:57,630 --> 00:12:59,550 brain is not overwhelmed anymore. And you can ask 208 00:12:59,550 --> 00:13:02,160 yourself the question, What's my starting point? What's the first 209 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,880 thing you need to do? Just like that, and you will find yourself 210 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:08,550 picking up garbage, you will find yourself putting papers 211 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:10,890 away, you will find yourself being able to do it because your 212 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:13,650 brain is just not overwhelmed anymore by the amount of 213 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:17,700 information is coming is much more clear organized. The cool 214 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:20,940 part is here's where the cool part is. If you do it enough 215 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:23,670 times, you won't have to do anymore. 216 00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:30,360 Janice Porter: Because it's changing how you think. Changing 217 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,920 that cognitive function. You got it? Yeah. Okay, interesting. 218 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:38,970 Okay, so the overwhelm is one, one piece that an entrepreneur 219 00:13:38,970 --> 00:13:41,340 might come to you with? What's another one? 220 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,250 ST Rappaport: Okay, this is another one. That's going to be 221 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:49,110 very surprising for many of you. Do you ever struggle to make 222 00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:51,450 decisions? or know someone who does? 223 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:55,440 Janice Porter: Oh, my, yeah. Not me so much as my husband and one 224 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,320 of my daughters. Yeah, you could die before they make a decision. 225 00:13:58,380 --> 00:13:58,860 Yeah. 226 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:02,580 ST Rappaport: That comes from the cognitive function of 227 00:14:02,610 --> 00:14:06,630 comparisons. Because what happens most times when we're 228 00:14:06,660 --> 00:14:12,690 talking about two options, we say, I like option A, because 229 00:14:12,690 --> 00:14:18,270 it's cheaper. I like option B, because it's bigger. But what 230 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:21,930 it's talking about price, it's talking about size. You are not 231 00:14:21,930 --> 00:14:24,150 comparing them on the same 232 00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:27,090 Janice Porter: level. Apples to Apples, right? 233 00:14:27,330 --> 00:14:30,120 ST Rappaport: Yeah, there you go. I see. You're really strong 234 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,890 at this cognitive function. 235 00:14:34,110 --> 00:14:36,090 Janice Porter: Okay, well, that's encouraging. Okay, I have 236 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:39,330 my own issues. But there you go. Okay. So I'm sorry to interrupt, 237 00:14:39,330 --> 00:14:40,200 but I'm 238 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,180 ST Rappaport: going to do all have ones that we can write. 239 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,850 Because there's like no such thing as like having a perfect 240 00:14:44,850 --> 00:14:48,600 brain, you know, these optimize your brain more, right? Anyway, 241 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,840 so back to comparisons. So if you want to improve this 242 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,360 cognitive function of comparisons to make better 243 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,870 decisions, to organize your life better, any of that sort of 244 00:14:57,870 --> 00:15:00,690 thing, you want to take two items and compare them on the 245 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:04,710 same parameter. Okay, so list out all the things that you want 246 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:10,800 to compare it on. Price size, texture, manufacturer, whatever 247 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,510 it is, yeah. And then you're making your decision based on 248 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:20,730 which parameter is most important to get clear on what's 249 00:15:20,730 --> 00:15:23,850 most important, you don't walk into the customer into the 250 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,230 comparison and say, oh, a is cheaper, and b is bigger. But 251 00:15:28,230 --> 00:15:34,440 you know, this situation, size matters to me more. And so I can 252 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:40,380 buy the bigger one without a be a whole, like, big deal. Because 253 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:43,350 you know, size is important. Obviously, size is important, 254 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,250 too. And amount, if it's like a million dollars more than like, 255 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:51,960 no, but like you understand you have that priorities is really 256 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,780 clear in your brain with the comparisons. So to actually get 257 00:15:54,780 --> 00:15:57,450 better at this, you want to take two random things you have in 258 00:15:57,450 --> 00:15:59,790 your house to rent a thing next to you a pen and a phone or 259 00:15:59,790 --> 00:16:03,900 whatever. And just compare them on the same level, but a bunch 260 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:07,560 of different attributes a bunch of different parameters, color, 261 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,280 size, texture, weight, whatever you could think of, and then 262 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,090 fill it out for each other. Once you've comfortable doing two 263 00:16:15,090 --> 00:16:18,330 things, compare three things, and four things. And you can 264 00:16:18,330 --> 00:16:21,480 make this even more challenging by comparing abstract things, 265 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,860 not just things you have in your, in your, like on your, on 266 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:28,200 your desk around you, but like what about two tasks that you 267 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,220 have to do? Or what about two personality traits or to 268 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:34,770 potential hierarchies, or things like that. 269 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,830 Janice Porter: So I keep coming back to, if I'm comparing these 270 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:48,600 things, especially in the the, the objects to things that I 271 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:52,620 maybe want to purchase, or whatever, I tend to come back to 272 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:55,770 and maybe this is just a different way of thinking of it? 273 00:16:55,770 --> 00:17:00,300 I don't know. But rather than comparing them for what they 274 00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:06,030 are, I have to come inside myself and say, Do I really need 275 00:17:06,030 --> 00:17:09,810 this? Do I need the one that's bigger? Do I need? You know, 276 00:17:09,810 --> 00:17:13,740 like, it's not comparing the two objects, but it's like, let's be 277 00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:17,340 real with. Okay, go ahead. Yeah. 278 00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:19,469 ST Rappaport: Okay. So essentially, what there's, 279 00:17:19,469 --> 00:17:21,659 there's, there's two steps to this comparison, there's 280 00:17:21,659 --> 00:17:26,729 comparing the two objects, and there's getting clear on what 281 00:17:27,509 --> 00:17:31,829 attributes are most important to you. Okay, that also applies. So 282 00:17:31,829 --> 00:17:33,659 that's what you're doing by going inside, you're getting 283 00:17:33,659 --> 00:17:36,389 clear on it. But that is also comparing because you're 284 00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:40,559 comparing the attributes of like, by saying, Do I really 285 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,319 need the big one, you're comparing the attribute of like, 286 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:46,079 size to Prime Minister, whatever it is, 287 00:17:46,110 --> 00:17:48,330 Janice Porter: yeah, yeah. It's fascinating, really, actually. 288 00:17:48,330 --> 00:17:53,760 But that kind of breaks it down. Maybe those those listeners who 289 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,840 struggle with things like making decisions might be able to grasp 290 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,660 onto something simple like that, to make it easier for 291 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:03,180 themselves. So that's great. Okay, so we talked about the 292 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:06,930 comparison, we talked about the first one, which which is 293 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,360 completely left my head at the moment now. So 294 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,320 ST Rappaport: right, that what was it? clear perception? It's 295 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,180 Janice Porter: your perception. And that, yes, and what's the 296 00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:17,820 third one that's most common? A third one, 297 00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:22,200 ST Rappaport: especially with ADHD, really, really, really 298 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,750 big. One is understanding time, big word and the ADHD world is 299 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:32,190 time blindness, and not realizing how long tasks how, 300 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,510 how long a task takes always running late to appointments, 301 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:41,700 leaving tasks for last minute, anything related to time, falls 302 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,120 under this cognitive function of time. Now, you mentioned 303 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:49,680 Einstein in the beginning. Well, ADHD is then also struggle with 304 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,170 time and always said that time is one of the most abstract 305 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:55,680 things. And one of the most complex things for our brain to 306 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,460 understand, because it is very abstract. But he didn't say it's 307 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:03,750 impossible, it is possible, you it's just a little bit more 308 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:09,930 challenging. So some of my favorite ways to get better at 309 00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:12,480 this cognitive functions, or to start getting better, I should 310 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,060 say, is you want to buy those big, huge desktop calendars, 311 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,180 those big ones, yeah, and hang them up on the wall in front of 312 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:25,710 you. But not just for this month, for the next 234 or even 313 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:29,160 five or six months. Because what's going to happen is it's 314 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,830 going to train your brain to be able to look ahead, and as you 315 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:34,470 put important dates on there, and in meetings and different 316 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:37,200 things that you're happening, who you meeting, when it's going 317 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,960 to start giving your brain and understanding of like, oh, this 318 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,480 is next week. And if that's happening next week, I need to 319 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,830 do this task before such when it's visual in front of you, it 320 00:19:46,830 --> 00:19:49,980 makes a much it makes it more concrete, right because times 321 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:52,860 abstract. You're making it concrete by putting it on an 322 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:57,060 actual physical count. Another thing that you can really do is 323 00:19:57,060 --> 00:20:00,330 that often people with ADHD tend to either over us Somebody no 324 00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:03,780 longer task is going to take or underestimate how long a task is 325 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:06,930 going to take. So help your brain actually understand it for 326 00:20:06,930 --> 00:20:11,100 the next week, time, all the tasks that you do often, how 327 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:16,620 long does a Zoom meeting with a new potential client? Actually 328 00:20:16,620 --> 00:20:17,760 take you? Or 329 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,980 Janice Porter: have to take? Right? That's like you said, 330 00:20:19,980 --> 00:20:21,630 yeah, exactly. Yes, 331 00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:23,760 ST Rappaport: exactly. And obviously, there's gonna be 332 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,590 average, right? Because like, sometimes it's gonna be a little 333 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:28,170 bit longer. So you time a few, when you get an average, how 334 00:20:28,170 --> 00:20:31,260 long does it actually take you to take a shower, or to put up 335 00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:33,960 dinner and then if like, You're five minutes before, you have to 336 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,640 run up the door for an appointment, and you're like, 337 00:20:35,670 --> 00:20:38,550 oh, I want to just put up dinner. But now you know that 338 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:40,560 putting up dinner doesn't take five minutes, it takes more like 339 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,860 20, then it's like, oh, I actually can start this now. And 340 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:45,690 you'll be on time for your career. 341 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,570 Janice Porter: That's a good one for me actually, to look at. It 342 00:20:48,570 --> 00:20:53,190 was interesting, I got a call last night, from somebody I 343 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:56,520 hadn't talked to for a long, long time. And I didn't know him 344 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,950 that well. And I had called him about something and left a 345 00:21:01,950 --> 00:21:04,770 message. And he had called me back a couple of days later. And 346 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:07,200 so we were having this conversation, I needed to ask 347 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,070 him something that he could refer me to somebody to help 348 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:14,490 with. And we got into the conversation, you know, how's 349 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:17,310 your family? You know, what are you up to? And we did all that 350 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:21,540 and the niceties and, and then I asked him, and then I felt a 351 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:26,520 lull, I felt like, the conversation was kind of done, 352 00:21:26,550 --> 00:21:30,630 but we didn't like he didn't say anything else. So I found that I 353 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:33,840 had to say that so great that you were able to help me, thank 354 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,500 you so much. And, you know, let's get together for coffee 355 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:40,620 book something maybe next week or the week after. And that was 356 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:44,280 kind of ending it and helping him know that it was ending it. 357 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:47,400 You know, like, sometimes you have to take control of those 358 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,680 things, because they can give awkward. Right? I know, it's 359 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,620 just an aside, but it is sort of hit me as 360 00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:58,230 ST Rappaport: part of the relationships part. You know, of 361 00:21:58,230 --> 00:22:00,990 course, you understand their way the other energy and see like, 362 00:22:00,990 --> 00:22:03,570 what's actually happening here. Yeah, and 363 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:05,850 Janice Porter: as far as the time thing, it's interesting. 364 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:11,370 My, my little granddaughter, she of course, once she gets hold of 365 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,060 an iPad, she wants to be on it forever, because she's just a 366 00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:19,410 kid of the 21st century, right. And she, it actually calms her 367 00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:22,440 down, which is really kind of cool. But we have to limit it, 368 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,320 right? Because she could sit on it. So we'll say, you know, 369 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:28,590 Amara, you can play on the iPad now, because I know that she's 370 00:22:28,590 --> 00:22:31,230 been out riding her bike for three hours, and she's just 371 00:22:31,260 --> 00:22:35,010 needs to sit down and calm down. But, but I'm going to put the 372 00:22:35,010 --> 00:22:39,540 timer on 20 minutes. That's it. So because she'll go, Oh, can 373 00:22:39,540 --> 00:22:41,610 you just have 10 more minutes, grandma 10 more minutes or 374 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,980 whatever, right? And she'll push it and push it and push it. But 375 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:49,170 she at least gets a sense of the timeframe when the timer goes 376 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:51,990 off. So it works sometimes. 377 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,350 ST Rappaport: No, well, you're she's still young. And yes, of 378 00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:58,590 course. Yes. Right. And also, it's not just understanding the 379 00:22:58,590 --> 00:23:02,640 time. It's like the negotiation, right. Like it's exactly. It's 380 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,900 fun. It's not like, oh, yeah, if I told her to clean her room for 381 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:08,670 10 more minutes. Yeah, exactly. 382 00:23:08,670 --> 00:23:10,710 Janice Porter: I know. I know, she loved. It's just 383 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:16,230 interesting, though, to watch how that brain works. But so do 384 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:23,280 you? Do you see when you're talking to maybe you're 385 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,140 networking, or maybe you're actually doing some prospecting 386 00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:33,120 calls? And you know, Discovery calls or whatever? Do you notice 387 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:36,630 if someone has ADHD? Can you pick it up pretty quickly? 388 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:40,320 ST Rappaport: Yes. So I personally don't love to just 389 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,090 like label people ADHD. 390 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,780 Janice Porter: And I understand that, yeah, I Yeah. 391 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:48,570 ST Rappaport: But especially if I'm looking to help them right, 392 00:23:48,570 --> 00:23:51,000 like a potential client or something, then I'm looking to 393 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,150 see which one of their thinking skills are weak. Now, people 394 00:23:54,150 --> 00:23:56,940 with ADHD often tend to have similar weak thinking skills, 395 00:23:56,940 --> 00:24:01,530 including the three that we just said. And so I'm not diagnosing 396 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:05,370 and I'm not a physician diagnosed, but most definitely, 397 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,160 I'm looking more at the skills and what I like about the skills 398 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,030 is because they're skills, that means you can learn them by just 399 00:24:12,030 --> 00:24:15,270 saying a person who has ADHD, it's like, okay, now well, you 400 00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:15,630 know 401 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,170 Janice Porter: what happened? And 402 00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:24,270 ST Rappaport: we're here, but he's talking the whole time. You 403 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:24,540 know, I 404 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:27,600 Janice Porter: know, I know. And that says, I'm saying skills. 405 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:33,930 Talk about a lot, right? That's so funny. Okay, so no, I was 406 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:36,720 actually just taking a quick look because I couldn't remember 407 00:24:36,780 --> 00:24:45,600 what your education was actually in. And and then I remembered 408 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,430 that you had been a photographer. And that would 409 00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:54,060 give you a whole different perspective on people. So how 410 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:57,540 did you go from that to what you're doing now? 411 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:01,530 ST Rappaport: Okay, so I I've never actually thought that I'd 412 00:25:01,530 --> 00:25:04,110 be doing what I'm doing. Now, I'd like I said, I thought that 413 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,070 when I was 11, I was in the band. And I saw how much like, 414 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:11,310 even as 11 year old, I saw how much to change me, not just in 415 00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:14,970 my reading, but like my whole life. And so I knew how to live 416 00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:18,330 and I want to to learn it, but just to learn it because I love 417 00:25:18,330 --> 00:25:20,580 learning. And I'm like, I want to have this in my back pocket. 418 00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:24,720 But I started at 14, I think was my first photography business. 419 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,910 And I've been doing photography in college, like I went to the 420 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:30,180 studio when I had overtop of the business. But I started this 421 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:35,160 training. When I started this training. This is the four years 422 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,280 being training, yes. Okay. Now, the forest scene training is 423 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,930 quite a process of a training, right? And takes time and like 424 00:25:42,930 --> 00:25:45,540 to really get into it. And so I would do the training while I 425 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:51,720 was also doing photography business, and there was a story 426 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,070 how deep do you want me to go into it? 427 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:57,270 Janice Porter: Not too deep at this point. Yeah. Okay. So 428 00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:57,840 essentially, what 429 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,780 ST Rappaport: I realized was at that point that I had another 430 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:03,180 like, massive transformation. And I realized that successful 431 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:06,030 people need this also. Because there's a lot of like, right, 432 00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:07,680 like, until then, I thought it was like only for people with 433 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,170 learning disabilities, or children or things like that. 434 00:26:10,170 --> 00:26:12,510 And I was like, people with businesses need this because I 435 00:26:12,510 --> 00:26:15,510 literally started saving over 10 hours every week from like, 436 00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:17,910 another improved cognitive function. And like, my business, 437 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:20,760 like, doubled and tripled, and it was like, changed everything. 438 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:23,790 And that's when I was like, other people could be 439 00:26:23,790 --> 00:26:26,250 photographers, like, I'm gonna go do this. Oh, 440 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,410 Janice Porter: interesting. Interesting. Well, it's 441 00:26:28,410 --> 00:26:32,190 fascinating, really, and people can read I think more about you 442 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:35,610 and your work on your website, right, which is still lifepics. 443 00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:42,090 University. Yes, yes. Yeah. And before we go, I want to ask you 444 00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:46,920 a couple of quick questions that I like to ask a form of to my 445 00:26:47,130 --> 00:26:52,440 guests. And one I want to ask you first is because of what you 446 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,750 said earlier, when you are taking in information do you 447 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:00,570 prefer to? And I'm sure the answer is no, but I could be 448 00:27:00,570 --> 00:27:07,500 completely wrong. Do you prefer to read Listen, or watch? like 449 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:10,710 reading books, reading, you know, versus videos versus 450 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:12,690 podcasts? That kind of thing? Honestly, it 451 00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:16,560 ST Rappaport: depends what, what my like goal is like what I'm 452 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,170 trying to do. Um, the best way to get it in is actually 453 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,970 listening and reading at the same time. 454 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:27,390 Okay. Okay. Yeah. You're getting 455 00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:30,900 both, but not always. Is that possible, right. Like I usually, 456 00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:33,540 like usually more about, like, how can I learn more in this 457 00:27:33,540 --> 00:27:35,640 moment? So if I'm driving like, yes. 458 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,240 Janice Porter: Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Okay. That's like me, I 459 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,870 like to do that, too. But it's funny, I bought a book the other 460 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:46,230 day that someone had I'd seen someone told me about, and I'm 461 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:49,350 all about relationships in this book that's really interesting 462 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:52,290 about that, but easy enough to read, because it had stories in 463 00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:57,420 it about people. And I started reading it. But only like, I 464 00:27:57,420 --> 00:28:00,720 can't read it when I'm out walking, or I'm, you know, so. 465 00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:03,540 So I'm reading it before I go to bed. And I'm not sure I'm 466 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:06,420 getting enough out of it, because I'm tired at that time. 467 00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:10,500 So that sort of affects my reading time as well, because I 468 00:28:10,530 --> 00:28:13,020 there's too much to do during the day. Anyway, that's another 469 00:28:13,050 --> 00:28:17,100 thing I have to figure out. The second question I'd like to ask 470 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:22,800 you, and then I have one more after that is what is your take 471 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,510 on curiosity? Do you think it's innate or learned? And second 472 00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:30,360 part to that question is what are you most curious about these 473 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,040 days? Okay. 474 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,280 ST Rappaport: I personally think that we are all it's innate, 475 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,190 real born with curiosity. That's how we learn. But I think it 476 00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:46,380 gets destroyed. Okay. And I am most curious about humans, 477 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:49,320 everything about human so the human brain, human biology, 478 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,070 human relationships, human interactions, all of that, but 479 00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:56,850 But you mind just fascinate me so much. All right. 480 00:28:56,850 --> 00:28:58,950 Janice Porter: That's fair enough. That's awesome. And last 481 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:03,390 question, would be just what is your best piece of business 482 00:29:03,390 --> 00:29:07,470 advice for the entrepreneurs who are listening today? 483 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:13,020 ST Rappaport: Okay, I think that you want your brain or you want 484 00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:17,730 yourself to be able to do contradicting strategies and to 485 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:21,780 be able to develop the skill to learn what to know, when giving 486 00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:25,890 an example. You want to be able to, like, just take action and 487 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:29,460 not get stuck and like move in and take action. At the same 488 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:33,780 time. You also want to have this skill and ability to stop, to 489 00:29:33,810 --> 00:29:38,070 think, to strategize to figure out what I'm going to do. But 490 00:29:38,460 --> 00:29:40,830 you can be really good at both of those. But if you don't know 491 00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:45,360 which one to do when it doesn't help you. So learn contradicting 492 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,440 strategies and learn and develop the skill to figure out what to 493 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:49,830 do one. 494 00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:53,550 Janice Porter: Right advice. Very, very good. This is so much 495 00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:57,600 fun. Thank you so much for stopping by today, and for 496 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,430 answering all my questions. and sharing your knowledge around 497 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:10,980 the the font, the 28 cognitive brain functions right? And the 498 00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:14,700 skills around them. So that's really that's really fun. So, 499 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,180 thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you to my audience 500 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:21,900 for being here. And if you liked what you heard, please leave a 501 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,930 review and share it with a couple of friends because we 502 00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:28,890 love to spread the word about people like St. Rapoport. So 503 00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:32,010 thank you so much and remember to stay connected and be 504 00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:35,190 remembered. Thank you, Janice. This was fun.