- God is so good.
Speaker:I just wanted to take a couple of minutes really quickly.
Speaker:Pastor Kevin is ministering at another church this morning
Speaker:and so that is why he's not occupying this space over here.
Speaker:And that's why we're kind of running amuck.
Speaker:But anyway, I know God is using him this morning.
Speaker:I've had a couple of messages back and forth from him
Speaker:and I know God is moving and we're so grateful for that.
Speaker:I wanna let you know about a couple of things.
Speaker:This week we do begin our midweek gatherings again.
Speaker:So I wanna invite you to come and have,
Speaker:we have dinner in the cafe at five o'clock.
Speaker:Then your children can go to children's ministries.
Speaker:We have a wonderful program going for them.
Speaker:Youth and I think Doug and Jody got about 25 new kids
Speaker:this week, so keep them in your prayers.
Speaker:It's gonna be wonderful.
Speaker:We have open tables next Sunday.
Speaker:If you have never been a part of that,
Speaker:we hope that you will.
Speaker:There are signups on the app.
Speaker:You just pick a restaurant,
Speaker:go join with some brothers and sisters and enjoy lunch.
Speaker:And I'm gonna ask you guys,
Speaker:when you're sitting at those tables next week,
Speaker:snap a picture, upload it that just says we are Springhouse
Speaker:because I love the fellowship and community
Speaker:that we see in that.
Speaker:And Monday evening, next Monday, we have a blue meeting.
Speaker:If you are new to the church and you are like,
Speaker:I would really love to get plugged in
Speaker:with some of the women, this announcement is for women.
Speaker:Just, I'm just putting that out there.
Speaker:If you're new to the church, you're like,
Speaker:yeah, I'd like to meet a few people.
Speaker:Anyway, Bloom Monday night and our own Pastor Sherry O'Dea
Speaker:will be bringing the Word and sharing with us Monday night.
Speaker:So come and support that.
Speaker:Now we have this morning,
Speaker:with this person being one of the younger people
Speaker:on our teaching team or the newer additions,
Speaker:we like to give him simple subjects like Lamentations
Speaker:and Revelations or this morning, the Book of Job.
Speaker:Would you welcome Pastor Justin?
Speaker:(congregation applauding)
Speaker:- Good morning, good people.
Speaker:I hope you brought your Bibles and your brains
Speaker:and your hearts today and your seatbelt.
Speaker:You better buckle up Mary Sue,
Speaker:it's fixing to get real wild up here.
Speaker:It's good to be back and on the platform in the pulpit.
Speaker:This is an honor to be here and share
Speaker:as a part of the teaching team
Speaker:and the teaching dynamic here.
Speaker:Didn't Hadassah O'Dea do a fantastic job last week?
Speaker:(congregation applauding)
Speaker:With the reading of Esther.
Speaker:I went to her as her service after the service,
Speaker:I said, hey, just a thought,
Speaker:would you consider doing all 42 chapters of Job next week?
Speaker:And she looked at me like I was speaking
Speaker:a different language and I said, that's fine, I got it.
Speaker:I've been prepared.
Speaker:Also found this guy sitting right here
Speaker:on the table this morning.
Speaker:I was about 13 seconds away last week from being,
Speaker:all right listen up, we're not doing nothing else
Speaker:until somebody get Pastor Kevin, his dad gone click her back.
Speaker:But somebody must have got the memo,
Speaker:knew I'd do it a little bit more pushups
Speaker:and I got a little bit more bass, okay?
Speaker:Nick Click was right here.
Speaker:So don't ever do that Pastor Kevin again
Speaker:'cause I got his back, all right?
Speaker:If it's a kid, a dog, whoever it is,
Speaker:hey, it's a package deal.
Speaker:Listen, they went for Jesus
Speaker:and they had to contend with Peter.
Speaker:I'm just saying, Peter tried to cut the guy's head off
Speaker:and Jesus like, chill, right?
Speaker:You're lucky I didn't whoop somebody
Speaker:for the clicker last week.
Speaker:He's like, Peter, chill.
Speaker:And I was like, you're right, you're right,
Speaker:you're right, you're right.
Speaker:So it's here though, I'll tell you that.
Speaker:Golly man, what a subject.
Speaker:I feel like this is either an amazing test
Speaker:of study and faithfulness
Speaker:or completely oblivious to the subject matter at hand.
Speaker:This is one of the oldest stories ever recorded
Speaker:and possibly the oldest book in scripture.
Speaker:It very well could be the oldest book.
Speaker:This is an ancient book.
Speaker:This is a story of a real man
Speaker:who lived in a real place in a real time.
Speaker:It's dated around the time of the patriarchs
Speaker:based on the context and the subject matter.
Speaker:This is a very famous book.
Speaker:And today we're gonna do a study, an overview, a synopsis,
Speaker:not a deep dive 'cause we don't have that much time,
Speaker:but we're going to study the book in the life of Job.
Speaker:If you would stand with me,
Speaker:we're gonna read six verses
Speaker:towards the back end of the chapter
Speaker:and then we'll go back to chapter one
Speaker:and we'll figure out how we got to this point.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:Then Job answered the Lord and said,
Speaker:"I know that you can do all things
Speaker:"and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
Speaker:"Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?
Speaker:"Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand,
Speaker:"things too wonderful for me which I did not know.
Speaker:"Here and I will speak.
Speaker:"I will question you and you make it known to me.
Speaker:"I have heard of you by the hearing of the ear,
Speaker:"but now my eye sees you.
Speaker:"Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes."
Speaker:Father, I thank you for your word.
Speaker:I thank you for the power and the life that it brings.
Speaker:I pray that you would open the hearts of your people
Speaker:to hear clearly from you.
Speaker:And I pray for an encounter with you
Speaker:that everything Justin B has to say today,
Speaker:that's not what your Holy Spirit wants to imprint
Speaker:on their hearts will be quickly forgotten,
Speaker:but that you would remain and comfort your people
Speaker:who are in a time of need.
Speaker:God, we love you and thank you.
Speaker:It's in Christ's name, amen.
Speaker:And amen, you can be nice and be seated.
Speaker:Job is a very famous figure in history, very famous.
Speaker:And he's not just in the church.
Speaker:Many cultures have written about Job.
Speaker:We use phrases like the patience of Job
Speaker:or my personal favorite in the evangelical church is,
Speaker:I'm in a Job season, a Job season of testing.
Speaker:I've even said that before.
Speaker:And those I've said it around,
Speaker:like my mom have quickly reminded me, no, Stupo,
Speaker:this is a result of your own decisions.
Speaker:These are, she didn't call me a Stupo,
Speaker:but I was being a Stupo.
Speaker:These are the natural consequences of your actions.
Speaker:You are not in a Job season, okay?
Speaker:There are positive and negative consequences
Speaker:that come with your actions, okay?
Speaker:Here's an example of a positive consequence.
Speaker:Draw near to God and he will draw near to you.
Speaker:Here's an example of a negative consequence.
Speaker:Talk back to your mom and you might be missing teeth.
Speaker:Natural consequence,
Speaker:depends how many rows you sit behind her.
Speaker:We said pews and I knew that she could only reach
Speaker:the pew right behind her.
Speaker:(congregation laughing)
Speaker:So I sat two rows back to the side.
Speaker:But that era, you also had everybody's a mama.
Speaker:So if she couldn't get to me, somebody else could.
Speaker:Listen to your mama.
Speaker:Y'all know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker:The prophet Ezekiel links Job with Noah and Daniel
Speaker:as the three most righteous men to ever live.
Speaker:That's Ezekiel 14, 14.
Speaker:For those of you that are familiar with the book,
Speaker:you know that suffering is at the forefront of the pages.
Speaker:However, the book of Job is not primarily
Speaker:about one man's suffering and pain.
Speaker:Job's problem is not so much financial or social or medical.
Speaker:His central problem is theological.
Speaker:Job must deal with the fact that in this life,
Speaker:God does not act the way he thought he would or should.
Speaker:In this drama, the book of Job is not so much a record
Speaker:of solutions and explanations to this problem.
Speaker:It's more of a revelation of Job's experience
Speaker:and the answers carried within his experience.
Speaker:Something that I want you guys to note
Speaker:and file away in your mental file cabinet.
Speaker:Every statement in the Bible is in context of a book
Speaker:and the meaning of that book
Speaker:determines the meaning of the verse.
Speaker:You cannot simply pick passages that fit or frame your POV
Speaker:or your theology to prove your point
Speaker:if it is intended to be taken out of context.
Speaker:Here's an example.
Speaker:Quoting Job's friends is dangerous.
Speaker:And if you've read the book, you know why.
Speaker:Because when you get to the end,
Speaker:God was like, these guys are out of control.
Speaker:He rebukes Job's friends.
Speaker:So you be careful quoting Job's friends.
Speaker:David Paulson says, "The Bible is all of God's word,
Speaker:but not all of God's truth."
Speaker:Are you hearing what I'm saying?
Speaker:The Bible is all of God's word, but not all of God's truth.
Speaker:Give you a real life example.
Speaker:I'm over at a friend's house and I'm in the bathroom
Speaker:and I'm washing my hands
Speaker:and they got this little paper calendar, right?
Speaker:And I'm gonna give you a, it's got like a date on it.
Speaker:Like, what is this?
Speaker:August 3rd and then it's got a little Bible verse.
Speaker:Are you with me?
Speaker:Right, they make them for far side too,
Speaker:but this one's got the Bible verse.
Speaker:And I'm washing my hands and I look down and it's,
Speaker:I'm gonna paraphrase, it's Matthew 4, 9.
Speaker:And it says, "If you bow down and worship me,
Speaker:all that you see will be yours."
Speaker:And I said, "That Satan said that."
Speaker:(congregation laughing)
Speaker:Look it up.
Speaker:It was when the devil was tempting Jesus in the desert.
Speaker:And I was like, "They have no idea.
Speaker:They did not look it up, it just sounded good.
Speaker:If you bow down and worship me,
Speaker:all that you see will be yours."
Speaker:I wadded that thing up, threw it in the trash.
Speaker:That was a day off, rest of the year.
Speaker:Dead serious, Fred, my bad.
Speaker:Dead serious.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:Because it was taken out of context.
Speaker:And what sounded good was not good.
Speaker:Because the one who said it was the devil.
Speaker:So be careful quoting Job's friends.
Speaker:The Bible is all of God's word,
Speaker:but it's not all of God's truth.
Speaker:This book presents an answer
Speaker:to some of life's biggest questions.
Speaker:Why is there pain and suffering?
Speaker:Why do good people endure suffering
Speaker:and why do bad people escape it?
Speaker:And the even bigger question, does God even care about it?
Speaker:I was talking with a brother in between services
Speaker:and the problem that we have
Speaker:when we think of good people suffering
Speaker:is because we only know good
Speaker:in the context of human understanding.
Speaker:Jesus even had an interaction with somebody.
Speaker:He said, "Good teacher."
Speaker:And he said, "Why do you call me good?
Speaker:"There's only one that's good and that's God."
Speaker:How do you know what is good?
Speaker:What you think is good
Speaker:is not necessarily what God thinks is good.
Speaker:Romans 8, 28 says, "For we know that all things
Speaker:"work together for the good of those who love Him
Speaker:"and are called according to His purpose."
Speaker:All things means all things.
Speaker:But verse 29 gives us the reason
Speaker:why those things work together
Speaker:because it's making us more into the image of His son, Jesus.
Speaker:You mean to tell me suffering can be good for me?
Speaker:I don't want that.
Speaker:Give me the pleasant circumstances.
Speaker:Let me, listen.
Speaker:Solomon tried to say riches and all that and it ain't worth it.
Speaker:I'm like, I wonder if God can test me in that.
Speaker:Like, can that be a test I can try to overcome?
Speaker:Just tons of wealth.
Speaker:Let me see if this is really true for everybody.
Speaker:I don't want his women problems.
Speaker:I just, let me try that money out, God.
Speaker:See if it's as corruptible as you say it is.
Speaker:You only believe suffering is wrong
Speaker:if you already have a belief that God is good
Speaker:and suffering is bad.
Speaker:You only think that suffering is wrong
Speaker:if you already have a belief God is good
Speaker:and anything that's not good cannot be God.
Speaker:But what do we know of good?
Speaker:Problem is that we also believe
Speaker:suffering negates God's goodness.
Speaker:Let me be clear when I say this, everything is not a test.
Speaker:Everything you encounter is not a test.
Speaker:And all suffering is not the result of a heavenly wager
Speaker:to test your faithfulness.
Speaker:Sometimes it's of your own making.
Speaker:Case in point.
Speaker:Sometimes it's from the enemy.
Speaker:Sometimes it's from the Lord.
Speaker:This is the story of Job,
Speaker:but it is not an allegory for all of life.
Speaker:It's this Job story.
Speaker:It's a story of Job's life, not human existence.
Speaker:So now let's look into the wager
Speaker:because the book starts off,
Speaker:have you ever been to like a theme park?
Speaker:I went to Universal Studios recently
Speaker:and this is my kid's first time being on a roller coaster.
Speaker:It's like five out of the six, okay?
Speaker:And I put them on a roller coaster,
Speaker:didn't do any of the background checks, 64 miles an hour.
Speaker:That's different in a car than just strapped to a chair.
Speaker:Open air, swear.
Speaker:They may get us go through a metal detector
Speaker:after you go through the lockers
Speaker:to make sure you don't have quarters or iPhones
Speaker:or anything in your pocket.
Speaker:'Cause can you imagine one of those coming out
Speaker:at 65 miles an hour?
Speaker:And I'm in the front, which is probably best
Speaker:'cause I couldn't see their faces behind me.
Speaker:And this thing shoots out like a rocket
Speaker:and it's zoom zoom and you're 65 miles an hour.
Speaker:And it's a full on adrenaline rush.
Speaker:The book of Job starts off at 65 miles an hour.
Speaker:And most Christians or readers of the book
Speaker:get through about a third of the way through chapter one,
Speaker:but I have no idea what's happening right now.
Speaker:I'm just gonna skip it, right?
Speaker:You just say, I shouldn't even be on this ride.
Speaker:But it's important to understand what's happening
Speaker:at the beginning so that we can wrestle
Speaker:with the middle and the end.
Speaker:This book reveals what's happening in the heavenly realms
Speaker:so we make sense of what happens here on earth.
Speaker:We can learn some valuable lessons.
Speaker:The writer of the book of Job
Speaker:either had incredible revelation and insight,
Speaker:or he was completely blasphemous
Speaker:because he sets up a scene
Speaker:and he attributes things to Yahweh
Speaker:that if it's not true,
Speaker:then our understanding of God is way off.
Speaker:Let's just read chapter one, verses six through 12.
Speaker:And just leave you set up.
Speaker:The Bible opens up says there was a man named Job
Speaker:and he lived in the land of Uz
Speaker:and Job had how many fat?
Speaker:7,000 sheep and 3,000 camels and 500 oxen, 500 donkeys,
Speaker:tons of servant, lots of lands,
Speaker:his kids would have parties on the weekend
Speaker:and they would all get together and bring their friends.
Speaker:And then Job on Monday morning
Speaker:or whenever after their partying was over,
Speaker:he'd go and offer prayers to Yahweh
Speaker:and make sacrifices by if they sin, please forgive them.
Speaker:Like Job was a righteous man.
Speaker:So the book opens up and then you get to verse six
Speaker:and here we are.
Speaker:There was a day when the sons of God came
Speaker:to present themselves before the Lord
Speaker:and Satan also came with them, full stop.
Speaker:There was a day when the sons of God,
Speaker:Ben-elohim came to present themselves before Yahweh
Speaker:and Satan came with them.
Speaker:And you've got a few ways you can go with this.
Speaker:You can go, I don't know what that's about.
Speaker:Let's keep reading.
Speaker:Or you can say, I don't know what that's about.
Speaker:Let's find out.
Speaker:Quick word study or reveal to you
Speaker:that this proper name Satan may or may not be
Speaker:the character we refer to as the devil.
Speaker:A better translation of this from the Septuagint
Speaker:is Hasatan which means the Satan, the accuser.
Speaker:It's less proper name and more of a job title
Speaker:or description.
Speaker:And if not, you have to contend with the fact
Speaker:that well, we know that the proper name Satan
Speaker:has fallen from heaven.
Speaker:So now I read this, does he have VIP access
Speaker:and he can just come back and forth whenever he wants to?
Speaker:What's happening here?
Speaker:Or is there something deeper going on?
Speaker:There's a possibility that this is not even a bad guy.
Speaker:That his role or responsibility is one of prosecutor,
Speaker:one of accuser and thus Satan is different
Speaker:than proper name Satan.
Speaker:And he derives his name from this verse here
Speaker:which says he is the ultimate accuser of the brethren.
Speaker:The ultimate accuser that accuses us day and night
Speaker:before God and he gets it from this scene here
Speaker:which is an extension of Deuteronomy 32
Speaker:and now they're coming and giving progress reports.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:Because God has entrusted them to watch over mankind
Speaker:and we have a sneak peek into what's happening in heaven
Speaker:before we see it happening here on earth.
Speaker:This is transcending information guys.
Speaker:And look at this.
Speaker:There was a day when the sons of God
Speaker:came to present themselves before the Lord
Speaker:and Satan also came among them.
Speaker:The Lord said to the Satan, from where have you come?
Speaker:And the Satan answered, well, going to and fro on the earth
Speaker:and walking up and down on it.
Speaker:And the Lord said to Satan, have you considered
Speaker:my servant Job that there's none like him on the earth,
Speaker:a blameless and upright man who fears God
Speaker:and turns away from evil?
Speaker:The Satan answered the Lord and said,
Speaker:does Job fear God for no reason
Speaker:if you not put a hedge around him in his house
Speaker:and all that he has on every side?
Speaker:You bless the work of his hands,
Speaker:his possessions have increased in the land.
Speaker:Stretch out your hand and touch all he has
Speaker:and he will curse you to your face.
Speaker:And the Lord said to Satan, behold,
Speaker:all he has is in your hand,
Speaker:only it gets him to not stretch out your hand.
Speaker:So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
Speaker:You know something that messed me up
Speaker:the first time I read that?
Speaker:Whose idea was it?
Speaker:Whose?
Speaker:You said it, I didn't say it.
Speaker:That's an observation.
Speaker:Hang on, man.
Speaker:Have you considered my servant Job?
Speaker:He's like, yeah, I thought about him.
Speaker:But did you notice he said, yeah, I thought about him,
Speaker:but I can't do nothing to him
Speaker:'cause you've got a hedge of protection around him.
Speaker:What if you were to know all the things and the ways
Speaker:that the enemy was trying to come against you,
Speaker:you had no idea about 'cause they couldn't get to you
Speaker:'cause you had a hedge of protection around you
Speaker:that you knew nothing about
Speaker:'cause you didn't have insight to a heavenly scene.
Speaker:And God been protecting you and carrying you
Speaker:and covering you unbeknownst to your mind
Speaker:and your knowledge.
Speaker:Running around complaining about this and that
Speaker:and this and that, you ain't got a clue
Speaker:how much I've been keeping off your back.
Speaker:Whining about a stoplight
Speaker:and missing a bus or something dumb.
Speaker:They trying to kill you, man.
Speaker:And then what happens next?
Speaker:What happens next is brutal.
Speaker:It's brutal.
Speaker:So we have the divine council scene here.
Speaker:We have the Satan.
Speaker:We have two plots that are woven together.
Speaker:We have a heavenly plot and the earthly plot.
Speaker:And what causes the tension is we know
Speaker:that there's a wager for Job, but Job doesn't know it.
Speaker:Job has no idea what is transpiring in the heavenlies,
Speaker:but we know it.
Speaker:And this is what creates the tension.
Speaker:None of us really know all of the reasons for suffering.
Speaker:None of us really know all of the reasons
Speaker:why there is suffering.
Speaker:So after permission is granted to the Satan
Speaker:and the divine council leaves,
Speaker:we see Job's property destroyed.
Speaker:His income is wiped out.
Speaker:His children are killed and his health is decimated.
Speaker:His health is decimated.
Speaker:His wife tells him, "Curse God and die."
Speaker:What a friend.
Speaker:Thanks, babe.
Speaker:You can't pray for me.
Speaker:You can't pat me on my back.
Speaker:Me and my mom were discussing this the other day.
Speaker:She said, "You know what?
Speaker:I feel like Job's wife gets a bad rap."
Speaker:(congregation laughing)
Speaker:No, think about this.
Speaker:Those were her kids too.
Speaker:Those were her kids too.
Speaker:They were, you assume they were.
Speaker:We don't know for sure.
Speaker:Either way, at least they're stepkids, adopted kids.
Speaker:Here's her family.
Speaker:That was her property as well.
Speaker:Their income.
Speaker:Now her husband's covered in,
Speaker:she's like, "Curse God and die already."
Speaker:My mom said, "I feel like she got a bad rap.
Speaker:She had probably one of the worst days
Speaker:and weeks of her life."
Speaker:And all we know her for is being like, "Just forget it.
Speaker:You should commit suicide, Job."
Speaker:It's what she told him.
Speaker:Maybe we should try giving a little bit of grace
Speaker:every now and then.
Speaker:So his wife tells him, "Curse God and die."
Speaker:Then three of his friends show up and he's unrecognizable.
Speaker:And what I mean by unrecognizable,
Speaker:Job's health is afflicted because the Satan comes back
Speaker:and he was like, "Hey, what about Job?"
Speaker:He's like, "Yeah, I beat him down,
Speaker:but I can't touch his health."
Speaker:And he was like, "I'd like you to touch his health
Speaker:this time."
Speaker:And all these, Job had these boils all over his skin
Speaker:and they hurt so bad and they probably were so itchy
Speaker:because he took pottery and broke it
Speaker:and took broken pieces of pottery and scraped his skin.
Speaker:You ever had a mosquito bite?
Speaker:How bad it hitches, you know what I mean?
Speaker:And you're just like, "Stop scratching,
Speaker:this'll make it worse."
Speaker:Imagine something being so bad that the only relief
Speaker:is to take broken pieces of pottery and scrape your skin.
Speaker:And it's the result of a heavenly wager.
Speaker:And he shows up and he's pitiful.
Speaker:His whole life is destroyed and he's sitting on the ground
Speaker:with ashes on him and his boys show up
Speaker:and they are heartbroken.
Speaker:They are heartbroken.
Speaker:And the scripture says they don't even recognize him.
Speaker:They get a lot wrong throughout the book.
Speaker:I'm not just here to defend Job's friends
Speaker:'cause they're out of control,
Speaker:but they do get one thing right and it's this.
Speaker:They sat with him on the ground for seven days
Speaker:and seven nights and no one spoke a word to him
Speaker:for they saw his suffering was very great.
Speaker:Church, I wanna say this for a long time.
Speaker:When somebody is grieving, shut up.
Speaker:I don't mean to be mean about it,
Speaker:but a multitude of words is not what somebody needs
Speaker:in a moment of grief.
Speaker:They need your presence there.
Speaker:They don't need, "I'm so sorry."
Speaker:And I get it from a good place.
Speaker:I get it from a good heart.
Speaker:You wanna say something that brings them comfort.
Speaker:But what brought Job comfort was that they was there
Speaker:and they cried with him and they put dust on their head
Speaker:and they sat with him.
Speaker:They knew he cared because they,
Speaker:he knew they cared because they were there.
Speaker:They were trying to fix it with a bunch of extra stuff
Speaker:he didn't need.
Speaker:Next time you encounter a friend grieving, just be with them.
Speaker:I feel like that we wouldn't even had this rest
Speaker:of this discourse if Job didn't open his mouth.
Speaker:Because Job breaks the silence.
Speaker:And then after this, we have 30 chapters of back and forth
Speaker:between Job and his friends.
Speaker:They were just waiting on him to say something.
Speaker:And Job opens his mouth and he starts complaining.
Speaker:He's like, "Oh God, the day that I was born,
Speaker:curse the day that I was born,
Speaker:I probably wish I was better off being stillborn
Speaker:or if they didn't nurse me."
Speaker:And then he has this David-like wrestling match
Speaker:where he's like, "Break all my enemy's teeth,
Speaker:blessed be the name of the Lord."
Speaker:He's like, "I curse the day I was born,
Speaker:but naked I came into this world and naked I'll return,
Speaker:blessed be the name of the Lord."
Speaker:And it's this interesting wrestling match
Speaker:that Job encounters throughout the entire book.
Speaker:And the discourse among his friends is that Job has sinned
Speaker:and this suffering is a result of the curse.
Speaker:And Job is confident in his own righteousness.
Speaker:You hear me?
Speaker:His own righteousness.
Speaker:And it culminates in a confrontation with Yahweh
Speaker:at the end of the book.
Speaker:Job's friends, he would say something
Speaker:and one of his friends would respond
Speaker:and he'd say something else and another one would respond.
Speaker:And they go in a wise order because the eldest speaks first
Speaker:and then the oldest speaks first 'cause he's the wisest
Speaker:and that's usually how it goes.
Speaker:And then the guy that's a little bit younger
Speaker:than the oldest ever last guy in the room speaks, right?
Speaker:Then you got the pursuit guy down here and he speaks last.
Speaker:And then you got the kid in the youth group
Speaker:that thinks he knows everything,
Speaker:that waits till everybody's done.
Speaker:And he says, "Oh, I actually got it figured out."
Speaker:That's literally what happens.
Speaker:It goes like, it goes Fred, Kevin, Justin, which one?
Speaker:Eli Minchi right there on the bottom.
Speaker:That was the order.
Speaker:Here's what you should do.
Speaker:Next time you guys have a group Bible study,
Speaker:you should do this like we do at the theater
Speaker:and they do these readings and just pick out parts
Speaker:and be like, you'll be Bildad and you'll be Eliphaz
Speaker:and you'll be Zophaz and you'll be Elihu and I'll be Job
Speaker:and we'll read it back and forth.
Speaker:And I bet it adds a little context to this discourse
Speaker:that Job has among his friends.
Speaker:So Job's friends start running their mouth to him
Speaker:and Eliphaz, which was the elder,
Speaker:he basically talks about God's transcendence.
Speaker:God knows everything.
Speaker:And Job, you are actually conscious of your sin
Speaker:but you're not telling us about your sin.
Speaker:But you know you've sinned and God knows you've sinned.
Speaker:So therefore repent and the suffering will stop.
Speaker:And Job's like, "No, that's not really what's going on."
Speaker:He's like, "No, that's really what's going on."
Speaker:You've sinned.
Speaker:Repent.
Speaker:Then the Justin of the group, the Bildad,
Speaker:talks about God's omnipotence.
Speaker:He says, "God is all powerful and might is right.
Speaker:So who are you to question God?
Speaker:Because he's stronger than you and he's bigger than you
Speaker:and so if you're suffering,
Speaker:then you're just gonna have to deal with it
Speaker:because you're not bigger than God."
Speaker:And Job's like, "Well, I don't really know
Speaker:if that makes much sense right now.
Speaker:That's not really what's happening."
Speaker:And then Zophaz talks about God's omniscience.
Speaker:He says, "Job, you're probably, what's really going on is
Speaker:you've sinned but you're just unaware that you have sinned.
Speaker:And if you will just confess your unknown sin to God,
Speaker:then maybe he'll stop your suffering
Speaker:because you must have sinned."
Speaker:One said, "You know you've sinned."
Speaker:The other one said, "It doesn't matter if you sin or not,
Speaker:God's bigger than you and so he's just gonna bully you."
Speaker:And his third friend says, "You don't really know
Speaker:about what sin you've committed.
Speaker:Either way, you're in the wrong and God is in the right."
Speaker:All three of Job's friends took refuge
Speaker:in a specific aspect about God and made it into doctrine
Speaker:and forcing the facts to fit their faith
Speaker:instead of allowing their faith to fit the facts.
Speaker:The same way it starts in chapter one where you're like,
Speaker:"I don't understand this, so I'm gonna dismiss it
Speaker:or I'm gonna reason or logic it away."
Speaker:The late Dr. Michael Heiser said of this, he said,
Speaker:"My conscience would not simply let me dismiss
Speaker:the facts of the scripture in order to fit the theology
Speaker:which I was comfortable with.
Speaker:Is my loyalty to the text or Christian doctrine?
Speaker:Is my loyalty to the word or Christian doctrine?
Speaker:And we have taken Proverbs in the scripture
Speaker:and turn them into promises."
Speaker:This is a major fallacy when it comes to doctrine
Speaker:and theology and I wanna caution us
Speaker:about turning general truths into absolute truths.
Speaker:General truths against absolute truths.
Speaker:Here was the general truth.
Speaker:Suffering is caused by sin.
Speaker:Therefore, if you are suffering, it's because of your sin.
Speaker:They made sowing and reaping an arbitrary law.
Speaker:And this was absolutely cruel because it caused Job
Speaker:to crawl around inside of his own conscience.
Speaker:They said, "You had to have done something wrong
Speaker:because God's not gonna punish somebody.
Speaker:He's not gonna allow suffering for somebody
Speaker:that hasn't done something wrong."
Speaker:And Job was racking his life.
Speaker:And I've done that in my own life.
Speaker:I remember my mom saying, "I hope you have five boys
Speaker:and act just like you."
Speaker:And I'm like, "Please God, no.
Speaker:No, not that.
Speaker:Send me to the stocks, whatever.
Speaker:Don't do that."
Speaker:What a blessing that would be to have five of me
Speaker:running around, wouldn't it mom?
Speaker:Y'all like, "Whoa, whoa, calm down."
Speaker:And I do got five just like me.
Speaker:I do got five just like me.
Speaker:Noah, Kat, DJ, Allie and Jessalyn, I'll tell you that.
Speaker:But I've looked back on my life at times and been like,
Speaker:"Man, is this the result of something I did way back here?
Speaker:Am I reaping something now I have sown back in my childhood?
Speaker:Maybe, or maybe not, but we can't be arbitrary about it.
Speaker:It was cruel.
Speaker:And we do this in the church when we say,
Speaker:"You didn't get healed 'cause you didn't have enough faith.
Speaker:How dare we?
Speaker:Now you've added somebody that's unhealed,
Speaker:then now they're saying it's my fault.
Speaker:What about Lazarus?
Speaker:Lazarus have enough faith?
Speaker:Lazarus was dead.
Speaker:(audience laughing)
Speaker:Think about it.
Speaker:Think about it.
Speaker:When we tell somebody you didn't have enough faith
Speaker:to get healed, that's why you didn't get healed.
Speaker:Lazarus, how much faith did that man got?
Speaker:Think about it.
Speaker:He was dead and got raised from the dead.
Speaker:I had a discipler, long time mentor, if you will,
Speaker:of mine named Derek Faulkner.
Speaker:And he got diagnosed with stomach cancer in November,
Speaker:several years ago.
Speaker:And he had faith God would heal him with cancer.
Speaker:He died in February, four months later.
Speaker:You mean to tell me he didn't have faith?
Speaker:The scripture God gave him was a verse out of Job
Speaker:that says, "Though he slay me, yet I will trust in him.
Speaker:Though he slay me."
Speaker:You mean to tell me he associated his human suffering
Speaker:with God's goodness?
Speaker:That's real faith, guys.
Speaker:So what is sometimes true, it's not always true.
Speaker:And we must be careful how we handle the scriptures
Speaker:when it comes to people, because God cares about people.
Speaker:And you don't want to hurt somebody.
Speaker:And that insult to injury by taking a general truth
Speaker:and turning it into an absolute truth.
Speaker:Job's responses to his friends become bolder and bolder.
Speaker:And the more he thinks about it,
Speaker:the more justified he feels.
Speaker:You ever had somebody tell you about your life?
Speaker:Feel like the Lord, and I'm like, "Nope, he didn't."
Speaker:You ever feel justified about something?
Speaker:Has anybody ever shared something with you
Speaker:and you're like, "That ain't happening."
Speaker:Has anybody shared a word with you that's wrong?
Speaker:It ain't gotta be like a thus saith the Lord,
Speaker:but I've had people tell me something,
Speaker:I'm like, "That's not what's happening,
Speaker:that's not what's going on."
Speaker:And then the older I got, the more I started saying,
Speaker:instead of immediately dismissing, I started going,
Speaker:"Okay, God, is there any truth to this?
Speaker:If not, let me not walk in that identity."
Speaker:Are you hearing me?
Speaker:Let me not be identified that, but if there is truth,
Speaker:let me make the changes.
Speaker:Job felt justified in his case.
Speaker:And he lays a case for righteousness in chapter 31.
Speaker:He lays out a case for righteousness in chapter 31.
Speaker:And you would think about, if you read it,
Speaker:he was listening to Jesus's teachings
Speaker:at the Sermon on the Mount.
Speaker:You would think this guy had actually sat
Speaker:at the foot of Jesus, the way he responds.
Speaker:And he lays out a case for innocence.
Speaker:He starts off chapter 31 with this verse, he says,
Speaker:"I have made a covenant with my eyes.
Speaker:How then could I gaze at a virgin?"
Speaker:Some translations say a young maiden.
Speaker:Didn't know what a young maiden was till I got an ESV.
Speaker:Now I know that's a young lady.
Speaker:And Job said, "I made a covenant with my eyes.
Speaker:I'm not gonna look lustfully on a young woman."
Speaker:In verses five through eight,
Speaker:he talks about his integrity.
Speaker:In nine through 12, he claims his purity.
Speaker:And then justice and generosity.
Speaker:In verses 24 through 28, he talks about his faithfulness,
Speaker:his right worship, blessing others, hospitality,
Speaker:his genuineness.
Speaker:He was prayerful and he was a good steward.
Speaker:Job said, "I'm a good person.
Speaker:Why is this happening to me?
Speaker:I'm a good person.
Speaker:Why is this happening to me?
Speaker:I love God.
Speaker:Why is this going on in my life?
Speaker:I did all the things.
Speaker:I confessed all known sin.
Speaker:I did my prayers.
Speaker:I've been following along in the Bible plan.
Speaker:Like I did the things you told me to do.
Speaker:Why is this happening to me?"
Speaker:And all of it's really directed towards God.
Speaker:He's talking to his friends,
Speaker:but he's really saying, "God, this isn't fair.
Speaker:You're not being fair to me."
Speaker:And he explains to his friends in one final appeal.
Speaker:And then we see Elihu, the teenager, comes up and he says,
Speaker:"Hey guys, you can go.
Speaker:I got it from here.
Speaker:Read the book.
Speaker:Read it with your friends.
Speaker:I promise."
Speaker:He goes, "Thanks.
Speaker:You guys are all wrong, by the way.
Speaker:Just like a regular teenager, normal teenagers do.
Speaker:I heard what you said.
Speaker:I've been listening."
Speaker:He was like, "I actually have been timid to speak
Speaker:'cause I'm so young.
Speaker:However, I'm gonna take three chapters
Speaker:to say what I have to say."
Speaker:(congregation laughing)
Speaker:He does.
Speaker:He does.
Speaker:And Job done, he mansions him.
Speaker:I can just picture Job like he's rubbing his eyes.
Speaker:'Cause he says the exact same thing the other guys say.
Speaker:"It's your fault, Job.
Speaker:You've sinned.
Speaker:You've sinned."
Speaker:And at this point, Job's over.
Speaker:He's like, "I just laid out my case.
Speaker:I'm telling you guys, I did nothing wrong.
Speaker:And yet my life is still in suffering."
Speaker:All of his friends applied sowing and reaping
Speaker:as a law to Job.
Speaker:And Job's crying out to God.
Speaker:And he's like, "Why is this happening?
Speaker:Why are you doing this to me?"
Speaker:And then finally God responds
Speaker:and it's absolutely terrifying.
Speaker:God finally says, "Okay, big boy, stand up."
Speaker:Like, remember the first time one of your sons
Speaker:kind of got a little bit puffed up, James, right?
Speaker:And he was like, "I'm gonna tell you right now,
Speaker:you're not as big as you think you are."
Speaker:I remember the first time I got actually bigger than my dad,
Speaker:physically bigger than my dad.
Speaker:And then I realized my dad's a stone cold killer.
Speaker:I should probably...
Speaker:(congregation laughing)
Speaker:Multiple black belts, probably strapped.
Speaker:I was like, "It's a bad idea."
Speaker:Thought my height.
Speaker:Can you imagine the creator of the universe responds to you
Speaker:and he opens up like this?
Speaker:This is how God opens up.
Speaker:I think it'd be dumb.
Speaker:He says in chapter 38,
Speaker:"Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said,
Speaker:'Who is this that darkens counsel
Speaker:by words without knowledge?
Speaker:Dressed for action like a man,
Speaker:I will question you and you make it known to me.'"
Speaker:You've been asking me all these questions.
Speaker:Why is this happening?
Speaker:Let me ask you some questions, Job.
Speaker:And then I want you to answer.
Speaker:And this is what he says to Job.
Speaker:He goes on for two chapters.
Speaker:And first his response is as the creator
Speaker:and then he responds as the creation.
Speaker:As I've been studying Job for the last two and a half,
Speaker:three years, literally in my own time,
Speaker:long before I knew this was a thing,
Speaker:I probably listened to this song I'm gonna share with you
Speaker:probably no less than 200 times.
Speaker:And every time I feel like the size of an ant,
Speaker:but just not thinking about all the times
Speaker:I have arbitrarily gone against the creator of the universe
Speaker:and I want him to answer my questions.
Speaker:Why did this happen?
Speaker:Why did that person walk through this?
Speaker:Why does that person go through that?
Speaker:Why did you take that from them?
Speaker:Why did you give that to them?
Speaker:And this is God's response to Job.
Speaker:Where were you, Job?
Speaker:Where were you when I created all of this?
Speaker:(gentle music)
Speaker:And Job was undone and he repents.
Speaker:Shall a fault finder contend with the Almighty?
Speaker:He who argues with God, let him answer it.
Speaker:Then Job answered and said, behold, I am of small account.
Speaker:What shall I answer you?
Speaker:I lay my hand on my mouth.
Speaker:I have spoken once and I will not answer twice,
Speaker:but I will proceed no further.
Speaker:He said, God, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, look, Dad.
Speaker:When I get the belt out, the kid's like,
Speaker:look, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker:And God said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker:Stand back up, I got more to say to you.
Speaker:And then he says, stand up like a man.
Speaker:Tighten your boots this time.
Speaker:And then he goes to proceed and tell him about his creation.
Speaker:He says, do you even know why I made a hippopotamus
Speaker:and a crocodile?
Speaker:Calls him a behemoth and a Leviathan.
Speaker:He says, you don't even know why I made a hippo
Speaker:and a crocodile and you're gonna answer me about ethics?
Speaker:You're gonna question me?
Speaker:You have no idea, Job.
Speaker:It's so much bigger than you.
Speaker:And he's not beating him down for questioning God.
Speaker:It's that Job lost touch with God through the suffering
Speaker:and that was his real problem.
Speaker:That was his real problem.
Speaker:Job repents.
Speaker:We read the beginning.
Speaker:Job says, my ears had heard of you
Speaker:but now my eyes have seen you.
Speaker:For us to get to a place where it's that I've heard
Speaker:about this God but now I've seen this God.
Speaker:He's back connected to the Creator.
Speaker:Then he gets a happy ending, I guess, of sorts.
Speaker:Scripture says, Job prays for his friends
Speaker:and after he prayed for his friends,
Speaker:then God restored everything back to him.
Speaker:The same guys that gave him hard counsel that was untrue,
Speaker:Job prayed for them.
Speaker:So what was his real pain?
Speaker:Was it physical?
Speaker:Was it relational?
Speaker:Was it social isolation or mental anguish?
Speaker:No, Job's real pain was spiritual.
Speaker:Job had lost touch with God.
Speaker:Through the suffering and that's the biggest obstacle
Speaker:that we must overcome when it's dealing with suffering.
Speaker:And you know what?
Speaker:Job didn't have that you have the hope of Jesus Christ.
Speaker:Job didn't have a hope that all is gonna be made right.
Speaker:They didn't know, they had an idea.
Speaker:But he didn't know that like Paul said,
Speaker:our light and momentary affliction is preparing for us
Speaker:an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison.
Speaker:You have the hope of Christ and that allows us
Speaker:to have peace in the midst of suffering.
Speaker:You wanna know what never happens?
Speaker:Job never gets an answer to his questions.
Speaker:Huh.
Speaker:You mean I read 42 chapters to find out
Speaker:he still doesn't know?
Speaker:He never knew about the heavenly wager.
Speaker:He never knew and he worked through his suffering.
Speaker:He worked through his pain.
Speaker:He crawled around in his conscience.
Speaker:He felt God leave and he felt God close.
Speaker:God never clued him in on him.
Speaker:(gentle music)
Speaker:David Paulson says that it's not about finding
Speaker:the answers to your questions.
Speaker:It's getting to the point in your relationship with God
Speaker:where you do not need them.
Speaker:It's not about finding the answers.
Speaker:It's getting to the place where you don't need 'em.
Speaker:I don't know why suffering exists.
Speaker:I don't know why babies die.
Speaker:I don't know why people die of cancer.
Speaker:I don't know why there's pain.
Speaker:I don't know why there's wrong.
Speaker:What I do know is that God is good
Speaker:and whenever we cross over and I find out
Speaker:that what he did with all that,
Speaker:it's gonna be good because he is good
Speaker:and that's enough for me and that is enough for you.
Speaker:So would you stand with me, Spring Houses?
Speaker:We worship and close out this service.
Speaker:(gentle music)
Speaker:God don't want us to stop asking questions.
Speaker:This is not a dad saying,
Speaker:"I know better than you, don't ask me why."
Speaker:It's not the question, it's the heart behind it.
Speaker:The heart that says, "God, I don't get it.
Speaker:"I don't know why this is happening in life.
Speaker:"I don't know why this is happening to me.
Speaker:"I don't know why this is happening to them,
Speaker:"but I trust you."
Speaker:And some of you need to get to a place where you say,
Speaker:"I trust you despite what my circumstances look like,
Speaker:"despite the pain that I'm walking through right now,
Speaker:"I trust you and I know that you're gonna work it out
Speaker:"for my good and your glory
Speaker:"because whatever you do is gonna be good."
Speaker:And so if you need to pray with somebody and confess that
Speaker:or if you need to come out here
Speaker:and do business with the Lord,
Speaker:whatever you walk through,
Speaker:whatever you're about to walk through,
Speaker:whatever you've been walking through,
Speaker:God is with you.
Speaker:We must never lose touch with God through our suffering.
Speaker:My prayer people, come down here
Speaker:and let's worship and pray.