Everybody, welcome back to Monday's edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Hello, and hey, you're gonna hear us tomorrow say, welcome to Monday's edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. You're gonna hear one of us tomorrow. Yeah, that's me. That's my bad. Because we recorded them out of order and that is totally on me. So tomorrow you're not crazy. Just think Tuesday instead of Monday. I wouldn't have told you guys just for the record. I just said No, they're not even gonna notice anyway. It's okay. I'm more than one. Like, let's call attention. Do it. And then, if people do notice it, then they won't be all consternated because they'll be like, oh, well they recognize that already. So we know now. You could still remind Pastor PJ Yeah. What day it is just for fun. And it doesn't throw off the podcast. We still did what the podcast was supposed to be about, but. We thought it was Monday, so when you hear us talking about yesterday being Sunday and everything else like that tomorrow, we know now, but we didn't then. Okay. So I have a follow up question. Okay. And it's related to, I don't know, several podcasts to go at this point. Now, do I force my kids to go to the camps, to do the things, the vbs, the summer camps, the winter camps? Do I make them go to Wednesday nights? Here's the pushback and here's the. Hopefully helpful context. That gives you some sense of this. If you force 'em to do these things, you are hardening their heart against this as opposed to giving them the chance to. Express their own interest and desire to do it. And if they do go to the thing, if they go there and they're upset about it, they're forced to be doing those things and really it feels like you're creating greater distance from them and their salvation versus if you just say, Hey, if you want to, yeah, we'll pay for that. We'd love for you to go and if, but if you don't. Don't worry about it, we're not gonna force you to do that. Secondarily, so question one, do I force 'em to do the thing secondarily, do I ever use it as a punishment where I say, you can't go to the thing now, you can't go to Wednesday night because you got in trouble, or you can't go to the summer camp, the winter camp because you got busted at school for this or that thing. So two different questions related to several episodes. Yeah, you've heard me say a lot. Hey, do everything you can to put your kids in the way of the gospel. I think as parents, that's one of our primary roles is to put them in the path of the gospel where they're gonna hear the gospel as many times and in as many different ways. So long as it's a faithful presentation of it as we possibly can. So, when we're dealing with our children who are unregenerate, that is that they're not saved, we. Shouldn't expect them to desire the things that a safe person should desire. And one of the common graces of God is in causing us to be born into a believing family is that he enables us to participate in things because of the desires of our parents who are saved and the San their sanctified desires on our behalf. So I would say you should say no you're gonna go. You're gonna go and you should say, you know what? You are gonna go to summer camp. You are gonna be involved in Wednesday night. You are gonna be involved when this event is happening, or that event is happening now. With regards to punishment I wouldn't. Keep your kid away from church as a means of punishment. I don't think that conveys, but they love it. The right thing. They great. Praise God. Find something else that's gonna hurt and use that no food the whole week. Yeah. But to take the church away from them is to again, miss an opportunity to put them in the path of the gospel. And that's our main job as parents until they leave our house and we can't do that anymore. And think about it this way, when your kids grow up and leave, if they're not walking with the Lord how much are you gonna sit there and think, man if I could have just had one more opportunity to put them in the path of the gospel, if I could have just sent them to summer camp one more time, I would love to have that chance again. And that's where I would say, recognize that that day might unfortunately come and Lord willing, it won't. Lord willing, your kids will all be saved before they leave the house, but that day might come. And so take advantage of every opportunity you have now to put them in the way of the gospel. Amen to that, bro. I would add that I would never say, Hey, you're gonna be forced to go Fair. I don't, I wouldn't say that, but that would be. The obvious implication, I would say, man, what a privilege it is that you get to do this. This is gonna, this is gonna be so great. I'm so glad that you get to do this. And what I wanna do is to shape the way that my kids think about the church. Yes. One of the things that Carlin EZ did, she's a, the wife of our sending pastor who got us here, she taught my wife to talk to the kids about my job. In a way that's fitting to what we do. So I think one of the things that I feared as a pastor is I don't want my kids to hate the church. I don't want them to begrudge the fact that dad's always gone on this thing, or he is doing this for this people. He is at this hospital visiting these people and he's not home with us having dinner. Carlin suggested to my wife that she needs to go out of her way to help the kids see how valuable this is. To the church, how good it is for our family to do it, and what an honor and a privilege it is. It is for us to be part of that. And I think Kristen has done that remarkably well. And consequently, I think my kids really enjoy the church and Kristen could have said, oh man, this guy's man, sorry, dad's not gonna be home again today. Yeah. You know what a bummer. She didn't do that. And so I think how we talk about the church and how we talk about the events is gonna really matter. Yeah. And whether or not you mean it too, that's also gonna bleed if you're saying it because this is what I should say versus this is how I feel. They're gonna feel that. So I think I would check my own heart and say, what do I think about this? Do I believe that this is what God wants me to do? And if so, then man, I'm gonna say, look, I. Johnny Susie, this is a good thing. This is a great thing. Yeah. I believe in this for you. I think this is really good for you. So I'm sorry that you're not feeling as excited as I am, but man I really want you to go and you're gonna have a great time. Yeah. Now they're obviously gonna derive from that. I don't have a choice. Yes. But I'm gonna say it in a way that hopefully shows and highlights the benefit over the compulsion. Yeah, that's good. That's good. What if though? My perspective is and we talked about this a little bit on Sunday kingdom of Priests, right? So I'm the priest of my home. I've got my family's in church on a Sunday morning, so I'm, we're there in church on Sunday morning. But then outside of that, I'm, my approach is I've got it. And so because I'm the spiritual leader in my home and the priest in my home, then I don't need to put my kids in student ministry or on the summer camp. I love the church. I love the church. She's not perfect, but man, she's awesome. We have great people who love my kids. In fact, just the other night I had. I had rehearsal, so I was at home with the musicians who were playing on Sunday, and my wife and most of my kids were at my middle son, Adam. His, he had a concert at Moore Middle School. I wasn't able to go, and I was bummed about that 'cause I was doing rehearsal, but so many people from our church showed up to support my son and I was so touched by that 'cause I thought, man, even though I can't go, he's got people there that. Obviously care about him. Yeah. Love him. Yeah. He's never gonna begrudge that. And so I think the church is often too lowly valued. And because we live in such an individualistic western mentality of, it is just me and mine, as long as my family's good, we're good. We so undervalue the nature and the benefit of the church to our own detriment. And we do ourselves and our kids a disservice and we say, look, you don't need that. You just need the family or you just need yourself, or you just, you know, pull yourself up by your own spiritual bootstraps. I know that's not the heart behind it but that is, I think, the implication. You don't need the church. Yeah, and that's not true. It's simply just not true. And you need to avoid even implying that with your behavior. And so I would say it is true that you're the leader of your home. I would not deny that. And I would hope as a leader, I could encourage you to make a decision for your kids that will benefit them now and in the future. And one of those benefits is I want you to value the church. I, man, I agree a hundred percent in our job. And our intention is not to replace you. Amen. E amen. Especially in student ministry or kids ministry, we are not saying, Hey, let us do the heavy lifting for you. No. Rather, we wanna come alongside you. We wanna co champion you as parents. And so. What our students are learning is meant to come alongside you and help you disciple your kids. Not to say, we're gonna do it for you. You guys, your job is done. So benefit from that. Say, man with you. I want that. And I desire that as a dad. I love that my kids are sitting under Lewis's teaching on Wednesday nights, right. With a quip and everything else. That's so good for them. So, yeah, take advantage of the church. A hundred percent. And as long as you're in a good church, I guess I could say, if you're not sure about the church that you're in and you're concerned about what's being taught, then that's a problem. Yeah, I agree. Let's talk about that. But if you by and large trust the church. Let the church be a support to what you're doing. Yeah. And take part in all that Christ has to offer to his people. Yeah. Well, let's talk Luke 11, which is Monday's reading because today's Monday. Today is Monday. Tomorrow's not Monday. Tomorrow's Tuesday. It is Tuesday tomorrow. But today's Monday. So today's reading, Luke 11. It opens up with the disciples going to Jesus. And we read this earlier in the the Sermon on the Mount as well and asking, Jesus Lord, teach us to pray. And so Jesus is going to go into the template of. What a prayer should look like. And I didn't mention this when we were going through it earlier, but this is not to say that this is the only way to pray. This is not to say that this has to be word for word, the only prayer you ever pray, but he's giving them a guide. He's giving them a template. And even in Matthew five, he talks about right before he gets into this same idea, he says, you know what? You don't have to have all of the verbose, wordy theologically deep and astute sayings and statements and doctrinal statements. Your prayers. And if you look at the Lord's Prayer, it's a very simple, basic prayer and there's something freeing about that for us to say, okay, as long as we're revering him, right? We always wanna have, maintain a high view of God. And when we come into his presence, we don't want to come into his presence and say, Hey, daddy God or big man upstairs we wanna be careful to revere him and give him the honor that he's due, but then we can approach him with a childlike simplicity in our requests. And that's not a bad thing. In fact, he even talks about the. The fact of asking, seeking, knocking. We talked about that a few podcasts ago, that idea that he's gonna give us what he sees as our real need in that we may not understand our need just right in that, but he's gonna know what we're really in need of, and he's gonna provide that for us. So as his children, we can come before him, we can pray and we can pray with the simplicity. And that's such a refreshing thing to know that he hears those prayers and responds to them. Let me just point out what Jesus shows us here. His priorities come first. Do you see that? He starts off with father, hallowed be your name. Mm-hmm. Your kingdom come. God wants his priorities first in our lives. Yes. Everything else is secondary, so I just want you to see that. We want to maintain a high view of God because Jesus has a high view of God. We have a high view of God. That's a good point. Yeah, absolutely. Interestingly, Luke goes on to record in verses 14 through 23, the interaction of Jesus being accused of casting out demons by Ible. And yet there's no mention here of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Versus in the other gospels there was, why isn't there here? I'm not exactly sure, other than Luke didn't decide that it was worth putting in or didn't think it, it served his, not rifle's, not worth it guys. It didn't serve the purpose that he was trying to communicate here. So, yeah, but it's that same interaction and this is what we're talking about. We're talking about the same thing here. How about the spirits returning, Pierre, that's always been something that has been a little bit, just strange for me to read this passage, but it is weird. Yeah. What do we do with this? Is there any clear interpretation you've heard on this one that's like, okay, yeah, that makes sense of this? I've heard a good interpretation and it's an interpretation that I feel particularly comfortable with. And I think lots of people are just unsure of where to put it and how it fits. But I, I think the best approach to it that I've personally come across, and I'll just leave it at that. 'cause I haven't studied it with any degree of depth that I would feel really good about saying, this is the way I see it for sure. But that it's speaking about moral reformation. That it's possible for someone to morally reform and to have a cleaned up life. And so they eradicate one demon, but because they haven't been indwelled by the Holy Spirit, they make themselves susceptible to the seven more that come back that are even stronger and more powerful than the last. And so I think. This is a warning against a self moral reformation where you clean yourself up, you get yourself fixed up, but you really don't fix the issue, which is that you need to be indwelled by God's spirit and not by some other foreign spirit. Yeah, that's, man, that's great. I see that for sure. That makes a lot of sense. I think in verses 27 through 28, we have a little bit of. A corrective to the Mary tree of the Catholic Church here. When the people come to Jesus and say, blessed is the womb that bore you and the breast at which you nursed, and Jesus says, corrects them. He says, blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it. the reverence, the the worship of Mary, the exaltation of Mary in the Catholic Church has a problem with this because Jesus actually says he, he doesn't sit here and say, yeah, you know what? You're right. Mary is blessed. And you should consider her blessed. He corrects, he said, blessed instead. Blessed rather. Instead, consider blessed those that hear the word of God and keep it. Now, he's not demeaning his mom. He's not saying she's worthless or anything else. He's just saying, if you wanna know who really is considered blessed it's whether it's her or anybody else, it's people that hear the word and do it. Amen. We get the sign of Jonah again, which we talked about, I think in a recent podcast episode there. And then the chapter after him talking again about the light of the eyes, sermon on the mount. Same thing, same idea is being conveyed there. The chapter ends with Jesus being pretty direct with the religious leaders of the Jews, and he's gonna call them out for their hypocrisy. He's gonna call them out for, participating in the, what he's gonna say, the completion of the execution carried out by their ancestors. The ancestors rejected the prophets. They're still rejecting the prophets. That's why they're building the tombs. They're just adding on, they're piling on to the rejection that was in the Old Testament. They're committing the same problems. And sins again in the New Testament. But Jesus is going to hold them accountable for rejecting basically the entirety of written revelation at this time. And that's what it means in verse 51. When he says, from able to Zechariah from the earliest voice to the last voice, he says, you've rejected all of it. And in the martyrs, the ones that were killed from the earliest to the last, you've had a hand in all of it because of your rejection of them. And so Jesus is that the tension is escalating. Between Jesus and the Pharisees, Jesus is getting ready to step more and more into the direct conflict knowing what the father is leading him into. Can you explain why Jesus reserves some of his most scarring and painful rebuke for the religious leaders? It doesn't seem like he ever does this to anybody else except for these guys. Why do you think that is? I think it's what we talked about, I think. In tomorrow's episode, I think it's what we talked about in tomorrow's episode. It's back to the future language right there, right? It's. The one who has been given much is gonna have much required. These, the expectations were more for them because of their knowledge base. They were in a position of authority. They were leading, they were the shepherds. If you think about the Old Testament, when God confronted the religious leaders in the Old Testament, he said, you're not doing your job. You're not shepherding the people. You're getting fat off the people. Instead of leading them and loving them the way they're. You're supposed to do. So they're in a position where God expected a lot of them, and they were gonna be held accountable for that and they were failing. And so that I think is why Jesus goes so sharply against them, because they should have known better. Amen To that. On top of that, I would say that these guys exemplify the exact opposite of what Jesus wants, which is those who profess the truth but don't actually live it out. Right. And that's what he charges them with. And this is what we know is the sin of hip hypocrisy. Everybody hates it and. Most often people charge church members with this all the time. Mm-hmm. And there's a certain element where you can say, well, yeah, none of us lives up to the truth that we profess. But we can say that by God's grace, we're not who we used to be. And there's increasing growth and becoming more like Christ. The challenge with this is that you're gonna see this used against Christians a lot. Like you guys are just like the Pharisees. You know, Jesus loves sinners, and why don't you love me? Why can't you treat me the way Jesus treated the sinners of his day? He excoriates these guys because of their lack of ability to take the truth that they had and apply it rightly, and that they're raging hypocrites. They loved the outside, they loved the show. They didn't love the actual heart behind it, which is the problem. So it is important for you to take a look at yourself. With some regularity, maybe not daily, but to say, am I walking the walk or am I just talking the talk? There's lots of Christians who could say it, right, but maybe not live it. Right? Don't be that person. On top of that, you'll also have to remember what Pastor PJ says tomorrow about whether or not I'm living it out. Am I taking in? All that I am taking in my, am I processing? Am I digesting? Am I applying it? And sadly to say, I think most of us would be able to say I ingest a lot more teaching than I actually put to work. Yeah. And that's true for all of us because none of us can be Jesus. But we should be saying, how can I grow from this? How can I let me have a tender heart, Lord, make me responsive, make me accepting of these words. And help me to humbly apply them day by day. We need the Lord for this. We need the spirit to indwell us to do this. Otherwise we are the Pharisees. Yeah. Well, let's pray. God we ask that you'd keep us from being, that we ask, that you'd keep us from being a hypocritical church, a sacral church. We ask that you would keep us from taking all of the information, the word of God the scriptures that we ingest and not applying it, not living it out. Rather God. We wanna be a church that takes in your word and does apply it. We wanna be a church that is. Investigating and checking to see are we walking the walk and not just talking the talk. We wanna be a church that is full of genuine converts that are growing in christlikeness every single day. So we pray by your grace. You enable us to do that, and we pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Keep in your Bibles tuning again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast, which we happen to know is gonna be pretty good. We hope it is. Bye bye.

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Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said