In today's episode, we're greasing the wheels on the road to Basel.
Speaker AZoe knows her place as Switzerland draw their performance slot for 2025.
Speaker AAnd I'm joined by some friends of the pod to chat about the best songs you won't be hearing at this year's Eurovision.
Speaker AI'm Stephen Perkins and this is Douce Poire.
Speaker BHello, land and we are ready for your vote.
Speaker AIt is Monday, 24th of March and we've got something very special for you this week as Adrian Bradley, AJ Clay and Cat Stevens join me to pay tribute to our favourite songs from the 2025 batch finals, which sadly did not qualify to be performed at Eurovision.
Speaker ABut first, let's take a quick look at the latest headlines.
Speaker AWith all of this year's songs selected and some of them currently undergoing revamps ahead of the contest, every nation is now pondering how best to stage their entry for maximum impact at Eurovision.
Speaker AAnd it seems that Austria might have something very special up their sleeves.
Speaker AIn an interview with the Eurotrip podcast, singer jj, who will be representing Austria this year with Wasted Love, set off his staging plans.
Speaker AI'm a bit nervous because it's going.
Speaker BTo be something that hasn't really been.
Speaker ADone before, camera wise.
Speaker AI'm really looking forward to it and.
Speaker BHoping it will go through because if.
Speaker AIt does, it will be so cool.
Speaker AMeanwhile, if the lack of a strictly It Takes two style companion show for.
Speaker BEurovision is a constant disappointment in your.
Speaker ALife, consider spending the next few months in Greece.
Speaker AGreek broadcaster ERT has announced a new show, Eurovision Weekly, which will air from Saturday 29th March at 3pm local time, hosted by Kelly Vernacki and featuring news, interviews and discussions in the run up to this year's contest.
Speaker AThe opening episode is set to feature an interview with Luxembourg's Laura Thorne and the music videos from Australia, Austria, Cyprus and Estonia.
Speaker AFinally, the draw for Switzerland's performance slot in this year's Grand Final has now taken place.
Speaker AWhile most countries in the contest take part in a draw to determine whether they will perform in the first or.
Speaker BSecond half of any given show, with.
Speaker AThe producers then free to arrange the running order within those parameters as they see fit, it is traditional for the host nation, who of course qualify for the Grand Final automatically, to be assigned their performance position in a completely random draw.
Speaker AThis year, Switzerland have drawn performance position number 19, coincidentally the same number that co host Ukraine drew in 2023.
Speaker ANow, not every song that gets entered into a contest to represent a nation at Eurovision is solid gold, as anyone who has ever put themselves through one of San Marino's national finals will tell you many of them are, in fact, downright awful.
Speaker ABut every year there are a handful of caulkers that, for one reason or another, don't manage to triumph at their respective national finals, but are still worthy of being blasted loudly on Repeat nonetheless.
Speaker AAnd 2025 was no exception.
Speaker ASo this epis is a celebration of all of this year's most valiant failures.
Speaker AAnd I didn't just want this to be my personal favourite, so I invited some previous guests back onto the podcast.
Speaker BTo talk about some of theirs too.
Speaker BJoining me for today's very special episode, we have Adrian Bradley.
Speaker CHello.
Speaker BWe have Cat Stevens.
Speaker DHi there.
Speaker BAnd we have AJ Clay.
Speaker EHello.
Speaker BThank you all so much for joining me on this episode.
Speaker BWe are going to chat about the songs that we loved in the various national finals that, for whatever reason, didn't quite make it all the way to the end.
Speaker BThis is basically, I'm not gonna lie, this is basically an excuse for me to talk about the first one on this list, which I love so much.
Speaker BThat's the whole reason you're all here and I'm very, very sorry.
Speaker BSo we are going to start with Christie Spiteri and Heaven Sent for Malta.
Speaker BThis one is an absolute bop.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BBut I'm going to preface it by saying that had Malta chosen it, they probably would have been in trouble because they would not have got anything near the amount of mileage that they've got out of Mariana Conti and Cunt Serving and all of the controversy that's been generated by that.
Speaker BAlso, now that we've kind of seen the full lineup, I do think this being in the same semi final as Austria would have been a problem for it because they're both doing Popra and Austria probably doing it slightly better.
Speaker BBut I will just say I've had this song on repeat so many times since the Maltese National Final.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BMy absolute favourite thing about it is when it gets into the final chorus and for some reason the tempo just picks up by like 30% for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker BLike, they suddenly thought they weren't going to hit the three minute time limit, even though they finish at like 2:45.
Speaker BJust completely unnecessary, but brilliant.
Speaker BAnyone else got any thoughts about Christie's Batari?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CMalta was one of the earlier national finals that I watched through and I did think watching it, had the juries not decided, no, they were absolutely going for serving.
Speaker CI thought this might have been one that would have troubled the juries and then added A bit of surprise, perhaps, to the outcome in the end.
Speaker CThat didn't really happen, but I think it was very good.
Speaker CIt would have.
Speaker CIt would have been a very different experience with Malta.
Speaker CWe would have had this time, you know, Malta have got attention this time.
Speaker CWhat that attention will turn to, I don't know.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI mean, I think now that we've seen the video for Malta, I think we can't say.
Speaker BThey definitely.
Speaker AThey've got a plan this year, haven't they?
Speaker BThey are going all out.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DI like this song.
Speaker DI like Christie's song.
Speaker DI think her operatic vocals were really great and really sort of different.
Speaker DSomething quite unusual compared to some of the more dramatic opera things.
Speaker DIt was nice.
Speaker DWorked nicely with the synthy background.
Speaker DI think when she sort of dropped into the pop vocal, it wasn't quite as strong, but that's, you know, that's a very minor quibble, I think.
Speaker DAlso, I really love the staging with a kind of Doctor who, Weeping Angels thing behind her.
Speaker BYeah, very cool.
Speaker BI think there was.
Speaker BThere was.
Speaker BObviously, I think she wanted to keep as still as possible so she could hit the notes.
Speaker BAnd I think, like, on stage at Eurovision, they could have maybe done a bit more around her, had they sent that song.
Speaker BBut I think the beginning, the kind of.
Speaker BThe slightly sort of puppety, jittery movements about literature I really, really liked.
Speaker ESo, yeah, yeah, I absolutely adored it.
Speaker EI.
Speaker EI thought it was.
Speaker EThe staging was excellent.
Speaker EThe.
Speaker EThe operatic.
Speaker ELike Cat said, the operatic vocals were fantastic and I was genuinely gutted when it lost out.
Speaker EI mean, I will not lie, like, I'm very much on the Christie Stan train and not really on the Mariana train, but it stays on my repeat as well on my Spotify, so.
Speaker BWell, great to start with a song that we're all agreed on.
Speaker BHopefully that will continue over the course of the.
Speaker BThe conversation.
Speaker BWe're going to move on now to Stereo terror and party till the end of the world.
Speaker BThat's Estonia and this one was nominated by Kat.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DThis one again, has been stuck in my head for the last month or so.
Speaker DIt's so stupid.
Speaker DI love it.
Speaker DIt's like Andrew W.K.
Speaker Dis finally Eurovision.
Speaker DIt's really sort of snappy rock that I don't think we've really had much apart from.
Speaker DWell, probably since.
Speaker DLordy.
Speaker DWe've had plenty of rock at Eurovision, but it's been a bit more praggy or glam, like with monoskin and.
Speaker DBut they're like, what?
Speaker DJust.
Speaker DIt's just getting right to the meat and potatoes.
Speaker DOf snappy chorus key change, stupid visuals.
Speaker DI really loved it.
Speaker DIt would have had absolutely no chance.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I do.
Speaker BI'm sad that we haven't got much of this kind of energy anywhere in the Cont this year, because it's a lot of fun.
Speaker BI love the.
Speaker BThe pyrotechnics and all the masks and the outright silliness of it, but I do agree it probably wouldn't have gone very far.
Speaker EI.
Speaker EI just think that the best thing about it was Disco Pinhead.
Speaker EThat's the only way I can describe it, but when Disco Pinhead turned up, when they formed it live, I was like, this is.
Speaker EI don't know what this is, but I'm into it.
Speaker EThat was.
Speaker EThat's my opinion.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BUnless anyone has anything else to add, I feel like Disco Pinhead is the excellent place to end with that one.
Speaker BSo this is falling apart already.
Speaker BBrilliant.
Speaker BWe're going to move on now to Mayra Omar, Hush Hush.
Speaker BFor this was in Melody Festival in for Sweden and this one was dominated by aj.
Speaker EYeah, I mean, just to preface with.
Speaker EI do really enjoy Kai and I'm really glad that they won, but I am a sucker for a kind of generic summary bop.
Speaker EAnd this was kind of the sort of ethno banger that my heart secretly yearned for.
Speaker EI think.
Speaker EI really love the staging, the beautiful Bollywood kind of costumes.
Speaker EAnd I believe it was Dari.
Speaker EIt's like a.
Speaker EIt's like a dialect of Persian that's spoken in Afghanistan.
Speaker EThat's the first time that's been used in a Eurovision song.
Speaker ESo I'm always a sucker for new language has entered the chat.
Speaker EIt was just very like uncomplicated banger, catchy chorus.
Speaker EEveryone was doing the TikTok dance.
Speaker EIt was all very like social media friendly, so that's why I liked it.
Speaker BYeah, I think this was.
Speaker BThis was a lot of fun, actually.
Speaker BThis was very kind of sirtab vibes.
Speaker BAnd we used to kind of send at least sort of two songs like this to every Eurovision and we don't have as many of them anymore.
Speaker BSo it's nice to see this kind of song being represented a lot.
Speaker BAnd I feel maybe this is kind of.
Speaker BI was watching, I thought this is maybe her at like 80% of her power and maybe she'll come back, do Melfest again in a couple of years and absolutely knock it out the park.
Speaker CIt's also done very well in Sweden.
Speaker CLike this was one of the songs that.
Speaker CIn the charts there after.
Speaker CAfter Malfest, after its Release was getting a bit of momentum.
Speaker CIt was obviously a little bit behind all the attention that was going on to Kai and Mons.
Speaker CBut that maybe bodes well either for another chance at Eurovision at some point for this kind of music or for even this act, but also for Maera herself as well, because they could get a career out of that.
Speaker CSo that probably will have been their aim out of Malfeas this year, especially seeing the competition.
Speaker CSo that's good for them.
Speaker DYeah, I like this too.
Speaker DI really love the staging.
Speaker DEspecially that really cool effect with kind of the mirrored table surface with the reflections going on.
Speaker DI thought it was really cool.
Speaker DReally slinky.
Speaker DWeirdly reminded me of, like Alexandra Burke somehow in a complimentary way.
Speaker DYeah, really kind of nailed the performance really strong there.
Speaker BWhen you said you really liked the effects of the staging, I thought maybe you meant the bit where the camera person fell over, but yeah, that's going.
Speaker DTo go on the highlight, isn't it?
Speaker BAlso, just while we're talking about Sweden, I do think what's really fun is that we all basically had carte blanche nominate any song that was in the national final and didn't, and none of us nominated Monselmla.
Speaker CLike, I was also just.
Speaker CI was also just thinking that because I was looking at the list and thinking, ah.
Speaker CI'm like, you know what, I wouldn't have been mad if it had won, but it's not going to be one that I would go out of my way to go and listen to now.
Speaker CSo that's why it's not on my list.
Speaker EI think it's just very meh.
Speaker BYeah, it's mevolution.
Speaker BSorry, I've done that gag before, I do apologize.
Speaker BBut yeah, I just.
Speaker BI mean, considering that that's the song that was touted as winning the whole thing, like all of a couple of weeks ago, and then suddenly we're sat here talking about the all around.
Speaker BIt's not even on the list.
Speaker BAmuses me a lot.
Speaker BSo, yes, let's move on.
Speaker BNext to we're going to Ireland.
Speaker BThis one's one of mine.
Speaker BBobby Arlo and Power Play.
Speaker BI'm going to preface this, like I will do with a couple of my picks by saying that the live performance wasn't great, but I really enjoyed the studio version of it.
Speaker BAnd so I'm basing my opinion slightly more on that.
Speaker BThis one.
Speaker BThere's real kind of powerful 90s energy about it.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt feels.
Speaker BAnd again, I mean this in a very complimentary way, like kind of late 90s Kylie Minogue B side.
Speaker BAnd Kylie was doing some great B sides in the late 90s.
Speaker BSo that's not a criticism for me at all.
Speaker BAnd I do kind of think that, you know, you hear this in the club, it would go off and that you could pop, you know, much in the same way that there was a massive kind of upgrade from the Late Late show to Eurovision for Bambi last year.
Speaker BI think you could have done so much with this, you know, bit more time to hone the vocals, bit more time tone the performance and it could have done really, really well.
Speaker BBut I did think, you know, possibly on the night it was a little bit shaky.
Speaker DI agree about the nightclub vibes.
Speaker DI could totally see this going off in the goth club in Nottingham at half past eleven.
Speaker DEveryone's got the snake bite on the go.
Speaker D45 year old goths in new rocks are doing the geometrical dance.
Speaker DI'm there, I'm just, yeah, transported.
Speaker EI really liked the kind of industrial banger vibes that it had going on.
Speaker EI've seen a lot of this, like music's been kind of creeping into the.
Speaker EThe computer games I've been playing weirdly and it's very.
Speaker EThat kind of like gothy and I really liked that.
Speaker EIt kind of just made me go, yeah, I do want to go to a goth club and kick off.
Speaker EAbsolutely.
Speaker BExcellent.
Speaker BThen let's move on.
Speaker BNext one is coming from Adrian and this is a Norwegian entry, Sondre and Vagabond.
Speaker CYeah, I really enjoyed the Norway, the Norway final actually.
Speaker CAnd there are a number of good songs and I think it was probably clear that Lightning was their favorite to win.
Speaker CBut this really impressed me.
Speaker CThis kind of stood out as a sort of song that I would hear on the radio right now.
Speaker CIt would be something I would love Norway to send to Eurovision.
Speaker CI thought Sandro sang it brilliantly.
Speaker CIt was.
Speaker CHad a good hook to it.
Speaker CI just really enjoyed it.
Speaker BYeah, I really liked it as well.
Speaker BAnd I think I've got to be careful about how I phrase this.
Speaker BI think it wasn't very Eurovision, but again, I mean that in kind of a good way.
Speaker BI don't know how well it would have done at the contest, but as a song in its own right, I think it absolutely holds up.
Speaker BI think it's got so much in its.
Speaker BIn its corner, so much that's great about it.
Speaker BAnd like you said, his performance was excellent.
Speaker BSo I would have been really intrigued if they had picked this just to see how it would have done because I was sort of thinking I don't necessarily know who's voting for this, but it is a really good song.
Speaker CYeah, completely, completely agree.
Speaker CAnd again, if we go back and look at how, how Germany did last year, there is an audience at Eurovision for that kind of, well, well sung, slightly more kind of, kind of ballady, but not ballady.
Speaker CI don't really know how to describe it, but that sort of slightly alternative approach to music, there's an audience for it and people do vote for it.
Speaker CSo maybe we will start to see that soon.
Speaker BYeah, definitely.
Speaker BI think there's, you know, we're already seeing, I think this year some unusual choices being made at national finals and I'm all for that.
Speaker BI'm all for kind of, you know, the disruptors at Eurovision.
Speaker BI think that's.
Speaker BThere's a lot, a lot of potential there.
Speaker BLet's move on to one that I'm going to apologize in advance for my pronunciation of the axe name Svada and Nixos Lusterka from Poland.
Speaker BAnd this one's one of the cats.
Speaker DYeah, we're back in the goth club again.
Speaker DBut I'm really here for it and it is going more into the industrial techno vibes a little bit.
Speaker DI mean, it fits really nicely in my running playlist right between Marie Davidson and Charlotte de Witt, like sort of the big European no nonsense techno women.
Speaker DAnd this like brilliant haunted, dark, warpy chanting.
Speaker DI would definitely pay a tenner on the door to see this at the Cavendish Arms on a Tuesday night.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DI just really love it.
Speaker DIt's one of my favorites from the entire contest this year.
Speaker EI absolutely love when.
Speaker ESorry.
Speaker EI absolutely love when a country takes risks and that's what that feels like.
Speaker EIt's so, like unusual.
Speaker EI just love an unusual entry that stands out.
Speaker EAnd Lesterka is definitely that.
Speaker BYeah, definitely.
Speaker BAnd when I was watching it, I was just thinking, God, this goes so hard so quickly.
Speaker BBut it's also got this really lovely, kind of slightly haunting quality about.
Speaker BHas these little moments of gentleness, which I find melodically really exciting.
Speaker BAnd I think had it gone to you, if it had gone through, I think the juries would have actually responded really well to this one.
Speaker DYeah, I think the live vocals might have been a bit shaky.
Speaker DI really love the recorded version, but I.
Speaker DI think maybe they would have needed to up the ante on the staging a little bit.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, it was very low key staging but I kind of liked that for it.
Speaker BI think sometimes less is more and I think that was definitely true of this one.
Speaker BSo you didn't want to kind of throw too much at it because the song's already doing enough.
Speaker BI think we're moving on again.
Speaker BLithuania this time.
Speaker BBlack Biceps Vise Manreich, aj.
Speaker BThis was one of yours?
Speaker EYeah.
Speaker EAgain, sucker for a dance party and also a sucker for brass, which, I mean, obviously James Newman maybe the only one.
Speaker EWe've not always been great at the party brass thing, but this was just such a party vibe.
Speaker EIt had that kind of ska vibe slightly to it.
Speaker EIt had a really sort of anthemic chorus.
Speaker EIt was just some lads having a great time on stage and it was kind of here for their party.
Speaker EWould have just gone off in the Euro club.
Speaker EThat's my opinion.
Speaker BI will say I'd slightly forgotten which one this one was when you nominated it.
Speaker BSo I went back to look it up and I was like, this is.
Speaker ANot what I expect a group called.
Speaker BBlack Biceps to sound like.
Speaker ENo, that's the thing.
Speaker EThe name.
Speaker EWhen I saw the name in the lineup, I was thinking, oh, okay.
Speaker EBut then when I heard the song, I was like, yeah, okay.
Speaker EActually, this is working.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLike, it was really fun from moment one.
Speaker BJust the trumpets and the jazzy vibe and the.
Speaker BI wasn't quite sure what was going on stage a lot at the time, but I was here for it.
Speaker BI was really here for it, which.
Speaker EIs the hallmark of a good Eurovision entry.
Speaker EWhat's going on on stage?
Speaker EWe don't know.
Speaker CIt's also the lovely thing about Euro Club is that we will get an opportunity to enjoy many of these national final also runs because you know that the DJs will be out there kind of gleaning all of these songs and getting them all together and the amount of them that have this incredible life after Eurovision, despite never fully on the Eurovision stage, is just brilliant.
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker BI mean, this one just feels like it's a gift to a Euro club dj, doesn't it?
Speaker DYeah, you can't go wrong with a good knees up, can you?
Speaker BAbsolutely right.
Speaker BI think we're back to me now, which is exciting.
Speaker BWe're back to Finland Nia river with Nightmares, this one.
Speaker BI'm kind of hoping you guys can help me out a little bit on here because this one really, really reminds me of something and I can't quite put my finger on it.
Speaker BIt feels a bit like it's kind of the.
Speaker BThe sequel to Monsters by Sara Alto.
Speaker BThat's kind of the vibe I'm getting, but I don't know if I'm missing another song that it sounds another one here.
Speaker BWhere the live performance at UMK was a bit shaky and to be fair, it's quite a hard song to sing.
Speaker BBut I've listened to it on Spotify a lot and the studio version absolutely slaps.
Speaker BAnd again, this one feels like it's another real indication of someone here who's kind of in the early stages of having a go at representing their country at Eurovision and give them a couple of years and they could come back with something absolutely incredible.
Speaker BSo I'm kind of prefacing all with that, but.
Speaker BBut it's a song I really enjoy on its own terms as a solid dance bop, if slightly derivative.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI think I also got a little bit of a Monsters vibe from it as well.
Speaker CWe're talking more about Finland later and I think it was a nicely strong final, so I think we know Finland are desperate to win it and it does feel like it's a matter of when, not if.
Speaker CIt's coming soon.
Speaker CThey're really working very hard on it.
Speaker CJust a little thing on their show.
Speaker CHaving the English language commentator straight from the beginning as well, that was a.
Speaker CIs it Wiley?
Speaker BSorry, yes, Wiley.
Speaker CYeah, having the English language commentator.
Speaker CThat was a Wiley staff member.
Speaker CThat kind of works on it, really added.
Speaker CMade it so much more accessible internationally.
Speaker CIt was one of my favorite national finals to enjoy as well, so that really helped.
Speaker CAnd, yeah, there was so much strong in it, but I'll probably save more on Finland until we get a bit later on.
Speaker EYeah, yeah, No, I liked it.
Speaker EIt felt like every dance banger from the 90s, like, it did remind me of something, but I don't know what.
Speaker EBut every dance banger, that's it.
Speaker BMaybe it was just a little bit of everything.
Speaker DYeah, yeah.
Speaker DI was getting Cascada vibes.
Speaker BOh, yes.
Speaker DA little bit of Tiesto, maybe.
Speaker EOh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker DBut it feels like there's been quite a bit of trancy direction going on this year.
Speaker DI'm here for that.
Speaker DThat's absolutely here for that.
Speaker DAnd I really loved her outfit as well.
Speaker DLike General Zod from Superman, Forbidden Zone in With all the Spikes, My Memory palace or whatever it is in Superman, I can't remember.
Speaker DBut the evil version of that.
Speaker DYeah, really great.
Speaker BYeah, definitely.
Speaker BLike I said, I think there's a lot of.
Speaker BA lot of potential with Nia there for future engines.
Speaker BAnd like Aid said, I mean, there's.
Speaker BFinland's overall consistency was so strong.
Speaker BThere's so much good stuff in there.
Speaker BAnd so, yeah, I really think they are.
Speaker BThey really.
Speaker BThey're hungry for another win.
Speaker BWhich is absolutely great.
Speaker BLet's move across now to Ukraine.
Speaker AFinka and Kultura.
Speaker BThat one was from Kat.
Speaker DYeah, this is another one that was a little shaky live, but I've just been playing it over and over and over again on.
Speaker DOn Spotify.
Speaker DI just really love her vocal.
Speaker DIt's kind of a sort of a bit rap, a bit singing, but it's.
Speaker DIt's still popping.
Speaker DIt just.
Speaker DYou kind of.
Speaker DEven though I don't speak any Ukrainian, but I'm really sort of.
Speaker DOf hear the fierceness with which she's trying to defend our culture.
Speaker DThat's, you know, basically the song is about, you know, you're not going to take our culture away from us.
Speaker DAnd I thought the.
Speaker DThe staging was like, real sort of.
Speaker DYeah, fierce party, but also very sort of determined and strong.
Speaker DAnd I just thought, oh, got me all sort of like.
Speaker DWhat's the word?
Speaker DNot inspired.
Speaker DNo, that's terrible.
Speaker DAnyway, let's move on.
Speaker BI was just thinking, actually, this is a great example, I think, how you can go to Eurovision and be political, but without being really on the nose political about it.
Speaker BAnd that's what I really liked about this one, the performance.
Speaker BOh, sorry.
Speaker CNo, sorry, I was interrupting.
Speaker CBut Ukraine have often been very good at this and very good at.
Speaker CThere are ways of subtly making a point that perhaps a few other countries could learn a lesson from when it comes to songs and song lyrics and.
Speaker BSong titles mentioning absolutely no names.
Speaker CIn the same way that comparing Malta and Finland's entry, you can do innuendo in a way that is still going to get you played on the radio.
Speaker CLike, there's nothing subtle about Ichikoma, but it doesn't go all in for a shock on one word, and therefore it's completely, completely doable.
Speaker CSo, you know, there are lessons to learn in all sorts of things.
Speaker CWhen it comes to your lyrics.
Speaker EI do enjoy Ukraine's subtlety on this kind of thing.
Speaker EBut it was such a nice track as well, because you had.
Speaker EWith the staging, there was a traditional clothes, there was a traditional folk stage, but then kind of mixing it with some rap and it just worked really well, like on its, you know, its own terms, like, yeah, our culture, it's pretty cool and it can just work like that.
Speaker DAnd they're all going around on a lazy Susan at one point.
Speaker DClassic.
Speaker DAbsolutely classic.
Speaker EClassic Eurovision staging.
Speaker CI love a revolve more.
Speaker CWe need more revolves.
Speaker CWe get very many revolves in Eurovision.
Speaker CWe need more.
Speaker BAnd, yeah, it was just so colorful to watch, which I.
Speaker BWhich I loved.
Speaker BI think you Know, it was such a simple idea, but it just worked so, so well.
Speaker BAnd yeah, this one, this one's.
Speaker BAnd we are now going across to AJ for a Greek entry, Evangelia and Vale.
Speaker EYeah, I really enjoyed that.
Speaker EWe had a Greek national finally again this year and there was quite a lot of good entries, I felt.
Speaker EAnd I think, if memory serves, this was a runner up.
Speaker EAnd the first thing you were talking about or this song reminds me of someone else.
Speaker EThis gave me Dua Lipa almost immediately.
Speaker EJust.
Speaker EIt was very slick, it was very.
Speaker EJust the kind of style that it was in, but it had that kind of chanty, anthemic chorus that you kind of got to have with a Eurovision song.
Speaker EAnd I've been listening to this a fair amount, especially as the sun has been coming out.
Speaker EIt feels like a nice kind of sunny vibe song.
Speaker BYeah, I think this one was.
Speaker BWas one where again, it just absolutely hits the ground running, doesn't it?
Speaker BIt just starts and there's no messing about with this one.
Speaker BA really, really, like, impactful performance.
Speaker BI thought she had such incredible stage presence and like, not too.
Speaker BTo draw too many constant parallels to other kind of Eurosian performers from the same countries.
Speaker BBut I was watching going, oh, this is very kind of Marina Sati, just kind of owning it from the word go and a call and response part to it, which I always enjoy, and one where it was delivered with enough confidence that you genuinely believe the audience would have picked that up and run with it in Basel had it got through.
Speaker BAnd so, yeah, this one I really enjoyed.
Speaker BJust really kind of very well structured pop song, really well performed, just really.
Speaker BI couldn't find fault with it at all.
Speaker DYeah, I like it better than what Greece have actually sent.
Speaker EI don't mind what they've sent, but I think that we could have done with a bop.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, yeah, I should preface with saying that we're not here to say that these songs are the ones that should have won their national finals.
Speaker BThese are just ones that we're saying that have amazing qualities and it's a shame that they couldn't have won this time.
Speaker BBut, yeah, I do kind of agree.
Speaker BI do think maybe this one would have been the better option.
Speaker BAnd that's not that I dislike what they've sent, but I do think there's that risk of getting a little bit buried in.
Speaker BThis one would have stood out a lot more.
Speaker BI think now that we've seen the.
Speaker BWe've seen the full field pretty much.
Speaker BOh, and we're back to me, how exciting.
Speaker BThis one, we're back, as teased earlier, we're back in Finland with Goldilocks and Maid of.
Speaker BAnd what I wanted to say about this one is that I've had.
Speaker BI spent a lot of time just playing my, like, songs on Spotify, and I don't always remember what made me add a song to Spotify and.
Speaker BAnd the amount of times this has come on.
Speaker BAnd I've assumed that I added this because I heard it on, like, some trendy TV show or like on 6 Music or something and was like, oh, that's really cool.
Speaker BI'm gonna add that.
Speaker BAnd then I go, oh, no, this was umk.
Speaker BThis was.
Speaker BThis was like.
Speaker BThis was almost like Eurovision.
Speaker BAnd, like, because it's just such an incredibly good song on its own merits, that's just lyrically really fun, really, really catchy.
Speaker BAnd again, it's got that kind of slightly kind of Dua Lipa vibe to it.
Speaker BAnd I just think, you know, had it not been for this being Erica Vickman's year, this would have absolutely walked it, basically.
Speaker CI completely agree.
Speaker CYou beat me to nominating this one as well, Steve, because I was here for nominating.
Speaker CAlso.
Speaker CThis was another one where the staging was very impressive.
Speaker CIt looked Eurovision ready as well, as obviously did Erica Veekman.
Speaker CBut it was also really interesting because this had the complication of her not being very well, so she couldn't sing.
Speaker CSo I believe it was her.
Speaker CShe was miming two previous vocals as opposed to it showing a previous performance, which is a very odd way of doing it.
Speaker CSo she was.
Speaker CShe was performing live, but miming the rehearsal performance, but it didn't.
Speaker CIt worked as a TV program, but, yeah, it was.
Speaker CIn another year, this could have won.
Speaker CAnd I think I'd be interested to see how well it.
Speaker CWell it could do.
Speaker CIt was really.
Speaker CIt was imaginative.
Speaker CThe rings were great, the dancing was great.
Speaker CIt had something and I really liked it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think sometimes it's just a question of really unfortunate timing, isn't it?
Speaker BLike, this would have been such a front runner in almost any other year and you just had the misfortune to pick this year to enter it, basically.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DI love the staging.
Speaker DIt kind of distracted me a little bit from the song, but that.
Speaker DThat's no, you know, no diss to the song, but the flexibility of those dancers on the hamster wheel.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker DSomeone's been doing their yoga with Adrienne.
Speaker EI love that they've got the hamster wheel.
Speaker EThey listen to Peace, peace, love, love.
Speaker ESo, you know.
Speaker EBut I loved it.
Speaker BWe need.
Speaker CWe need more hamster wheels, more anything revolving.
Speaker CI'm here for it.
Speaker EMore revolving staging.
Speaker EYeah.
Speaker ENo, I loved it too.
Speaker EYeah.
Speaker EYou say it had the dua lipa vibe.
Speaker EIt had a weekend.
Speaker ELike the weekend vibe as well.
Speaker EThat kind of electronic thing.
Speaker EYeah, loved it.
Speaker BWe're going to move on now to another one.
Speaker BI'm really sorry.
Speaker BI should have slightly researched better how to pronounce some of these names, but I'm going to do my best here.
Speaker BLeon Cheka with Drobe from Lithuania.
Speaker BAnd this one was one of Cats.
Speaker DThis is utterly baffling, isn't it?
Speaker BWhat if you've almost read my notes out there?
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker DLike the folk harmony intro, experimental electro, clash, dubstep breaks.
Speaker DCompletely serious business.
Speaker DThey are there because, you know, it feels like someone's put a gun to their head.
Speaker DI say you must come out here and sing as if your life depends on it.
Speaker DAnd like the vocals, absolutely incredible.
Speaker DBut everything else is a complete hot mess.
Speaker DI'm.
Speaker DI'm obsessed with this.
Speaker DObsessed.
Speaker DThe casualty makeup as well.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DI just.
Speaker DI can't stop watching it.
Speaker EIt felt to me like a really interesting fringe show.
Speaker EI.
Speaker EI review fringe shows and I would have definitely given it.
Speaker EI would have said, you know, that's the most fascinating thing.
Speaker EI don't know what I've just seen, but I feel I have to say something about it.
Speaker ELike, it's like you say, the sort of stitches sort of makeup.
Speaker EThe queer opera vibe.
Speaker EWhat was it?
Speaker EI don't know.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BI was sat there thinking, if I heard this audio only, would I feel the same way about it.
Speaker BBut so much of this was the absolutely bonkers, brilliant staging through it, which I did not understand at all, but I was thoroughly enjoying.
Speaker BI was just sitting back, letting it wash over me and just having a great time and just shrugging in adoring bemusement, I think, is the way I can describe it.
Speaker BOh.
Speaker BOh, God.
Speaker AWell, we're already at our last song off the list.
Speaker BWe've actually got through these very quickly.
Speaker BI'm impressed with how concise we punish to be.
Speaker BWe are over to AJ for the last one.
Speaker BThis is Slovenia and I'm going to sound like I'm just making a series of hoots and clicks here, but this is Kiki with Oo Oo.
Speaker BLet's have a Kiki.
Speaker ELet's have a Kiki.
Speaker EAgain, I'm here for the kind of.
Speaker EWhat on earth just happened?
Speaker EIt's very much like Lithuania one.
Speaker EWe're just talking about because you know, someone comes on dressed as kind of got Pierrot kind of thing going on or clown.
Speaker EIt's all very quirky, it's theatrical.
Speaker EThere's a bit of folk dancing happens at one point and then.
Speaker EWhich seems to be this year's theme tempo change.
Speaker ELet's just have a dance breakdown at the end.
Speaker ELet's all run round in circles and then stop again.
Speaker EAnd it was just the sort of.
Speaker EOh, it's.
Speaker EIt's sort of weird constructor vibes.
Speaker EBut I kind of like it better.
Speaker EControversial but I.
Speaker EYeah, it was just so strange and cool.
Speaker EI'm not a huge fan of what one, so I feel like this would have just been a more fun thing to send.
Speaker DYeah, yeah, I.
Speaker DI agree, totally.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DWhen it started off and she was like there like in the sort of a doll face, like get up.
Speaker DI was just brought to mind Katie Wasall and X Factor sitting down on the floor.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DBut then it suddenly like switched up into this like boshed up Verdes Requiem vocal.
Speaker DReally, really strong ending.
Speaker DI just.
Speaker DI think maybe it just took a bit too long to get going, you know, with.
Speaker DWith that.
Speaker DIf it had been that strong at the start, I think it would have like smashed it.
Speaker DBut.
Speaker DBut yeah, really enjoyable.
Speaker BI love that there was a slight sort of like fake out ending a little bit.
Speaker BYou think it's finished but there's like a couple more seconds of it to go and go.
Speaker BIs the song still going?
Speaker BIs this her thanking the crowd?
Speaker BI don't really know what's going on, but this is.
Speaker EIs.
Speaker BThis is great.
Speaker BAnd yeah, I agree that like I feel they're on absolute hiding to nothing with.
Speaker BWith the song that they did pick.
Speaker BAnd this would at least have been, you know, a kind of a shoot for the moon.
Speaker BAnd even if you miss you've made an attempt kind of thing.
Speaker BAnd what.
Speaker BGiven what was already there, I think there was a lot of opportunity to build on this staging to, you know, refine it and enhance it a little.
Speaker ABit and it could.
Speaker BIt could have been a real moment.
Speaker BSo I'm genuinely quite gutted they didn't pick this one.
Speaker CIf I had one more to have nominated for the also run.
Speaker CI think Petra Mirdif interval act for the Melfest final would have to go in there.
Speaker CIt was.
Speaker CWe must.
Speaker CWe must protect the gays.
Speaker CI think it translated as I do need to sit down and watch.
Speaker CSo I've seen her introduction with subtitles.
Speaker CI now need to sit down and get kind of the English lyrics of a whole song.
Speaker CBecause I picked up bits of it.
Speaker CBut I think she had a lot of fun with that one.
Speaker BI feel like the really fun part of this stage of Eurovision is when you've got a song in your head in another language and you're walking around singing it, absolutely no idea what you're singing.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker CThat is me with Barabaraba Barabadabastu aberration.
Speaker CAll the time stuck in my head.
Speaker EThe problem is I have a Norwegian pt and so she'll understand quite a lot of things that I'm singing.
Speaker ESo if I'm doing, like, any kind.
Speaker BShe'S like, okay, yeah.
Speaker BI quickly put the chorus of Bala Bartu through Google Translate just to make sure I wasn't saying anything bizarre or offensive.
Speaker BAnd I'd like to say it's just.
Speaker CLike a sauna, isn't it?
Speaker BIt's very weird.
Speaker EYeah.
Speaker ELet's all have a sauna.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think my favorite bit is it bastublurda ayubissen gleda, which is like something like sauna brothers, we glow together.
Speaker BWhich I just think is such a good line.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ESauna brothers, we're all bastubruda.
Speaker BSo it's a really fun word to say bastubrer.
Speaker BThank you for Duolingo for helping me to actually say that live in the first place.
Speaker EDuolingo is the win.
Speaker BBrilliant.
Speaker BWell, thank you all very much for joining us on this extra special episode.
Speaker BIt's been wonderful to have you all here and hopefully we will all catch up again soon.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker EThank you.
Speaker DThanks.
Speaker BOh, that was so great.
Speaker AA huge thank you to Adrian, AJ and to Kat for taking time out.
Speaker BOf their busy schedules to join us.
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