1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:05,880 I did not know how much the military or my military experience would pay 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,150 off or play a part in my acting career. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:09,330 Mm-hmm. 4 00:00:09,570 --> 00:00:15,030 Like the first slew of roles, it was always young military, young cop 5 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:22,230 police, and I figured out, okay, I know what Hollywood views as military guy. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:23,670 I get it. 7 00:00:23,970 --> 00:00:25,080 That's not true. 8 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:25,950 We're all different. 9 00:00:25,950 --> 00:00:26,700 We're all unique. 10 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:27,120 Right. 11 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:33,870 You know, NCIS, this NCIS, that, and there's a new NCIS, which I just booked 12 00:00:34,290 --> 00:00:36,269 again, so I'll be shooting that next week. 13 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:36,840 Thank you. 14 00:00:37,290 --> 00:00:40,560 But this particular character, I'm like, oh, I know this character. 15 00:00:40,830 --> 00:00:45,210 In this particular case, this was literally me like 10, 15, 20 years ago. 16 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:48,300 You know, it's all by God's design, but when you're going through life. 17 00:00:48,810 --> 00:00:53,220 There's a lot of peaks and valleys that we go through, um, but we don't realize 18 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:59,700 how a lot of those things that may seem to bring so much doubt or fear or 19 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:05,970 confusion will be some of those moments that really become pillars and foundations 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,790 of the great things that are to come. 21 00:01:18,090 --> 00:01:22,260 Coming to the show, we have Mr. Christopher Allen, a good and amazing 22 00:01:22,260 --> 00:01:27,240 friend, father, husband, actor, veteran. 23 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:29,910 He has so many titles, it's unbelievable. 24 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:36,450 But he has blessed many, a stage TV and movie screen that many of you 25 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:37,920 have been able to see and witness. 26 00:01:38,070 --> 00:01:40,920 Some of you played video games, uh, using him as a character. 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,610 It's pretty amazing. 28 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:44,760 But he hails from Nashville, Tennessee. 29 00:01:45,104 --> 00:01:49,634 Also traveled through Memphis, Tennessee, Atlanta, Georgia, and then, uh, all 30 00:01:49,634 --> 00:01:52,725 the way up until high school, uh, or his senior year of high school, 31 00:01:52,725 --> 00:01:55,214 he ended in Baltimore, Maryland. 32 00:01:55,905 --> 00:02:01,544 From Baltimore, he went to Morgan University and after his first year, 33 00:02:01,574 --> 00:02:06,824 decided to pivot and joined the US Air Force, uh, where he was an 34 00:02:06,824 --> 00:02:12,435 air traffic controller for several years before he, uh, decided to. 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,740 Get out of the military and come to LA to study acting. 36 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:21,330 And he has been acting, uh, since his move out to la. 37 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:26,190 He's been blessed in many different ways and, uh, most importantly, 38 00:02:26,190 --> 00:02:27,870 his family and his wife. 39 00:02:28,590 --> 00:02:32,700 He thanks them all and gives them all the support for all the success that he's had. 40 00:02:32,970 --> 00:02:35,850 And right now we get to welcome Mr. 41 00:02:35,850 --> 00:02:36,600 Christopher Halen. 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,290 Stay tuned. 43 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:41,609 Hey, my name is Kat. 44 00:02:42,029 --> 00:02:42,540 And I'm Lee. 45 00:02:42,839 --> 00:02:43,799 And welcome to the 46 00:02:44,339 --> 00:02:46,290 Wildly Wealthy Life Podcast. 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,089 In this show, we explore the journey of what it means to live a truly 48 00:02:51,089 --> 00:02:52,649 exceptional and fulfilling life. 49 00:02:53,010 --> 00:02:56,339 Each episode focuses on how a foundation of brilliant minds and 50 00:02:56,369 --> 00:02:59,969 brave arts nurtured through the arts leads to lifelong success. 51 00:03:00,535 --> 00:03:03,805 Get inspired with actionable tips to foster a growth mindset, 52 00:03:04,015 --> 00:03:07,345 leadership values, and creativity in children and adults turning 53 00:03:07,345 --> 00:03:10,885 their potential into lasting contributions for their communities. 54 00:03:11,155 --> 00:03:15,115 We hope that you embrace the challenge to shift your perspective as we equip 55 00:03:15,115 --> 00:03:17,125 you and the next generation foray. 56 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,195 Wildly wealthy, wildly wealthy life. 57 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:29,070 We just had our conversation with Christopher Allen. 58 00:03:29,070 --> 00:03:30,240 It was so fun. 59 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:32,460 Babe, what's some of your biggest takeaways? 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,940 Well, I love Christopher, number one. 61 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:37,140 He's an amazing man. 62 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:37,530 Mm-hmm. 63 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:39,570 Christopher, if you're listening, you are amazing. 64 00:03:39,630 --> 00:03:44,010 Thank you for everything that you do and really his leadership through. 65 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:45,840 Servitude mm-hmm. 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,740 Is such an important lesson and you guys really need to listen from start 67 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:51,030 to finish to hear this whole story. 68 00:03:51,450 --> 00:03:52,710 And, uh, what about you? 69 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:54,960 Uh, yeah, I think same thing. 70 00:03:55,020 --> 00:04:01,050 Uh, his outlook on the heart for service is something that is really worth noting, 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,310 and I think that something that we should all apply in our lives and the way he 72 00:04:05,310 --> 00:04:06,870 just shares it is really incredible. 73 00:04:06,870 --> 00:04:09,450 And like the experiences he's had because of his heart. 74 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:11,970 For service is really wonderful. 75 00:04:11,970 --> 00:04:13,500 So we'll bring him in. 76 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:14,250 Here we go. 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,390 So Chris, you have such a unique experience of different 78 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:30,330 roles, both now and like the. 79 00:04:30,675 --> 00:04:34,215 Quote, unquote, professional Disney World side of things. 80 00:04:34,215 --> 00:04:37,605 You have the acting performance side of things. 81 00:04:37,605 --> 00:04:41,235 You've got motion capture, air force work, 82 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,190 fatherhood, 83 00:04:42,465 --> 00:04:48,645 fatherhood, husband hood, like, there's just such a, a broad, uh, 84 00:04:48,645 --> 00:04:52,605 approach to life or, uh, broad, uh, experience of life that you, you've had. 85 00:04:53,175 --> 00:04:55,785 Um, as you look at your. 86 00:04:57,179 --> 00:05:04,169 Now, what are some of the freedoms and what are some of the lessons that you're 87 00:05:04,169 --> 00:05:09,630 trying to share with your kids to give them that leg up that maybe you didn't 88 00:05:09,630 --> 00:05:12,929 have or you wish you had experienced when, when you were growing up? 89 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:14,849 Yeah. 90 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:15,719 Thank you for that. 91 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:22,200 For me, kind of like my life today and over the past several 92 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,780 years, you know, things have. 93 00:05:25,185 --> 00:05:28,785 On the outside looking in, been all over the place in terms of not 94 00:05:28,785 --> 00:05:32,235 having much traditional structure? 95 00:05:32,745 --> 00:05:32,805 Yeah. 96 00:05:32,835 --> 00:05:34,035 Or consistency. 97 00:05:34,785 --> 00:05:39,435 So when I was younger, once my parents separated, even though I was always in 98 00:05:39,435 --> 00:05:46,155 between Nashville, Memphis, Atlanta, and back, I was often in between 99 00:05:46,155 --> 00:05:52,305 Nashville, Memphis, Atlanta, and back versus having one set of friends, uh. 100 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,820 Stable, same parental unit at home, whether it be mom, 101 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,770 grandparents, godparents, whoever. 102 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,190 There was a lot of shifting and moving around and just doing life. 103 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:09,570 I used to say, wow, I wonder and sometimes still do think what it 104 00:06:09,989 --> 00:06:15,210 would be like, what my life would be like if I did have that consistency. 105 00:06:15,359 --> 00:06:21,330 Same school, same friends, you know, same culture growing up. 106 00:06:22,455 --> 00:06:23,715 But that wasn't my story. 107 00:06:24,284 --> 00:06:30,494 I had the benefit and pleasure as I see it, of learning how to adapt. 108 00:06:30,614 --> 00:06:30,974 Mm-hmm. 109 00:06:31,125 --> 00:06:31,215 And 110 00:06:31,215 --> 00:06:35,385 overcome in unfamiliar territories consistently. 111 00:06:35,565 --> 00:06:42,405 If so, now whether I'm faced with situations or an opportunity in the 112 00:06:42,405 --> 00:06:50,445 corporate world at Disney, or which is very structured and it is a. If you 113 00:06:50,445 --> 00:06:54,435 would like to, you have an opportunity to show up, look away, talk away, 114 00:06:54,794 --> 00:07:01,544 dress away, and imagine being that way, literally for 20 to 25 to 30 to 40 to 115 00:07:01,544 --> 00:07:07,815 50 years, uh, most people work there at Disney unless they're, you know, fired 116 00:07:07,815 --> 00:07:09,885 or let go, or laid off or whatever. 117 00:07:10,424 --> 00:07:10,724 Mm-hmm. 118 00:07:13,095 --> 00:07:14,745 See the benefit of that. 119 00:07:14,895 --> 00:07:17,835 I appreciate the consistency in what that offers. 120 00:07:18,045 --> 00:07:20,895 However, I don't like it. 121 00:07:21,435 --> 00:07:21,525 Mm-hmm. 122 00:07:21,855 --> 00:07:26,565 Now that it's offered to me, but I'm older and understand, I would rather be able 123 00:07:26,565 --> 00:07:32,025 to, okay, I can do the Disney thing, I can hop on set and be fun and be free. 124 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:36,315 I can call back on my memory about the Air Force and remember what that was like. 125 00:07:37,230 --> 00:07:38,250 And apply that today. 126 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,170 So as far as my kids are concerned, I'm glad that I'm able to say, okay, I would 127 00:07:43,170 --> 00:07:48,060 like to provide you that consistency that I did not have at home between 128 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:52,830 mom and I, and safety, and security and faith and what we believe and why. 129 00:07:52,830 --> 00:07:53,490 Mm-hmm. 130 00:07:53,565 --> 00:07:58,650 And also so to you that there is a world of possibility. 131 00:07:58,650 --> 00:08:00,750 You have the foundation, you have the structure. 132 00:08:01,530 --> 00:08:05,850 I've taught you how to fly, so when it comes time for you to run and jump and 133 00:08:05,850 --> 00:08:08,460 spread your wings off that cliff, hey. 134 00:08:09,525 --> 00:08:10,665 Prep you the store, baby. 135 00:08:10,755 --> 00:08:11,930 I am prep you the store. 136 00:08:12,510 --> 00:08:13,090 You know what I mean? 137 00:08:13,095 --> 00:08:15,645 You may rock two feet as soon as you get off, but just 138 00:08:15,855 --> 00:08:17,895 remember you were made for this. 139 00:08:17,895 --> 00:08:18,765 You know what I mean? 140 00:08:19,005 --> 00:08:19,275 Yeah. 141 00:08:19,425 --> 00:08:22,695 And those rocky, you know, shaky times are guaranteed either way. 142 00:08:22,965 --> 00:08:26,625 So just about our perspective and how we see them and how we 143 00:08:26,925 --> 00:08:29,235 choose to adapt and overcome. 144 00:08:29,505 --> 00:08:33,645 So, um, my goal is whether I have two boys. 145 00:08:33,794 --> 00:08:33,885 Mm-hmm. 146 00:08:34,125 --> 00:08:35,655 Um, three, almost four. 147 00:08:35,655 --> 00:08:37,455 The other one is seven one. 148 00:08:38,505 --> 00:08:39,525 Came outta the womb. 149 00:08:39,554 --> 00:08:40,515 More like, okay. 150 00:08:40,605 --> 00:08:43,814 Boundaries, guidelines, yeah. 151 00:08:43,964 --> 00:08:44,235 Cool. 152 00:08:45,314 --> 00:08:51,074 The other one is more like me, boundaries and guidelines. 153 00:08:51,375 --> 00:08:53,145 He understands that they're there. 154 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:57,450 But he understands that they're there for the average person, excuse me. 155 00:08:57,540 --> 00:09:03,090 He, his guidelines are outside of everyone else's, uh, for his own logical reasons. 156 00:09:03,090 --> 00:09:04,260 And I'm like that too. 157 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,701 But the beauty of just seeing who they are and how certain approaches and, and 158 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,560 things can be applied to them is great. 159 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:13,860 So my goal is to take what I've learned, uh, allow them to be them 160 00:09:13,905 --> 00:09:17,970 themselves and just hopefully help them, you know, work out and steer this 161 00:09:17,970 --> 00:09:19,410 thing called life the best they can. 162 00:09:20,010 --> 00:09:20,730 That's awesome. 163 00:09:20,820 --> 00:09:20,910 Yeah. 164 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:21,270 Wow. 165 00:09:21,870 --> 00:09:26,040 And in all of your experiences, Chris, uh, I know you've had a lot, you know, 166 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,990 as we already kind of shared here. 167 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:34,350 Um, what has been the main, if you feel like you, if you were to kind of 168 00:09:34,350 --> 00:09:38,730 really expand on this one thing, the main thing that you feel that you've 169 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:43,770 held onto because it's the leadership skill or the value that has really 170 00:09:43,830 --> 00:09:46,170 helped you in everything you've done? 171 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:48,540 Yeah, I'll say. 172 00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:50,850 Transparency. 173 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,290 Not that I've done these things well, but when I have work like a 174 00:09:55,290 --> 00:10:02,460 trauma, transparency, honesty, and understanding what it means to serve. 175 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,420 Mm-hmm. 176 00:10:04,290 --> 00:10:09,600 If you can grow to appreciate and just work on those things, and by you I mean 177 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:16,380 we and myself included, you'll begin to see the value of those things and how 178 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:19,140 the average person in the workforce. 179 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,589 I'm sure many of us have experienced, we'll get distracted by the wrong thing. 180 00:10:25,589 --> 00:10:30,540 For example, we spoke about me working at Disney and pursuing acting. 181 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:31,829 So acting is my passion. 182 00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:33,360 Acting is the thing that I love to do. 183 00:10:33,599 --> 00:10:36,000 Acting is something that I've been blessed to do. 184 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,310 I. At a cool level, and I continue to be a part of those opportunities. 185 00:10:41,310 --> 00:10:43,020 So I'm, I'm thankful to God for that. 186 00:10:43,140 --> 00:10:43,500 Mm-hmm. 187 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:48,840 But I've always had a day job, even in times in my career where I didn't 188 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,680 quote unquote have to, I've had a day job, so I'll go in entry level. 189 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:55,890 When I first got to la I, well, I don't know if I should tell people I'm an actor. 190 00:10:55,890 --> 00:10:56,790 I don't wanna get fired. 191 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:57,720 I'm just gonna lie about it. 192 00:10:58,350 --> 00:11:00,150 Um, and hope it all works out. 193 00:11:00,810 --> 00:11:03,030 But then it got to the point where I was like, wait a minute. 194 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:06,930 It wasn't even about being necessarily honest, like I shouldn't be lying, which 195 00:11:06,930 --> 00:11:08,130 shouldn't have, shouldn't have been. 196 00:11:08,430 --> 00:11:11,640 But it was more so about if I have this thing in my heart that I feel that 197 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:18,780 I've been gifted and called to do, why would I be shy or ashamed or say, this 198 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:19,920 is what I am and this is what I am. 199 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,339 This is what I do, and then artistically and then hide it from you. 200 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:23,819 Mm-hmm. 201 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:27,449 I'm not giving my heart to just do that it deserves. 202 00:11:27,569 --> 00:11:27,660 Mm-hmm. 203 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:32,069 So then it got to a point to say, Hey, let me be honest with these people. 204 00:11:33,015 --> 00:11:34,574 Companies, employers, whatever. 205 00:11:35,295 --> 00:11:36,045 I am an actor. 206 00:11:37,185 --> 00:11:38,145 This is my pursuit. 207 00:11:38,505 --> 00:11:39,944 I wanna be transparent with you. 208 00:11:40,605 --> 00:11:43,725 I also wanna be honest with you and say, Hey, I may not hit the mark every 209 00:11:43,725 --> 00:11:49,454 time, but my goal for you is to give you 110% because I do have other pursuits. 210 00:11:50,145 --> 00:11:53,895 I don't necessarily wanna be here in 15 years, so therefore I need 211 00:11:53,895 --> 00:11:55,694 to show you that while I am here. 212 00:11:56,265 --> 00:11:59,625 I wanna show up and, and aim for a hundred percent, 110%, even 213 00:11:59,625 --> 00:12:01,365 if I only hit 80 consistently. 214 00:12:01,574 --> 00:12:02,775 Let's be honest with each other. 215 00:12:03,045 --> 00:12:06,555 People who do wanna be at this company, on average, maybe you 216 00:12:06,555 --> 00:12:10,005 get a good 75 to 80 period, right? 217 00:12:10,125 --> 00:12:12,555 May or may not be striving for that 110%. 218 00:12:12,555 --> 00:12:15,944 So the more I just had conversations with people being open and honest 219 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:19,844 with them, they begin to appreciate that honesty because the average 220 00:12:19,844 --> 00:12:22,905 person, even if they do wanna work there, is not necessarily gonna be. 221 00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:26,610 Honest with you from the jump about what their goals, their dreams or 222 00:12:26,610 --> 00:12:31,020 aspirations are definitely about things that may keep me from getting this job. 223 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:31,410 Mm-hmm. 224 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:31,980 Right. 225 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:34,770 So people will say things like, you know what, I appreciate your honesty. 226 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,580 Okay, cool. 227 00:12:35,970 --> 00:12:38,880 Uh, we understand you have goals because everyone does. 228 00:12:38,940 --> 00:12:40,080 It's not just me. 229 00:12:41,475 --> 00:12:44,355 Especially in a city like la, most people are not like really 230 00:12:44,355 --> 00:12:45,885 wanting to be a valet friend. 231 00:12:46,035 --> 00:12:47,175 Let's just be honest. 232 00:12:47,205 --> 00:12:47,505 Okay. 233 00:12:47,505 --> 00:12:47,565 Yeah. 234 00:12:48,345 --> 00:12:48,705 So nothing 235 00:12:48,975 --> 00:12:49,430 wrong with it. 236 00:12:49,435 --> 00:12:51,555 I was a valet and it was great while it lasted. 237 00:12:51,585 --> 00:12:52,305 You know what I mean? 238 00:12:52,635 --> 00:12:55,125 So again, it's not like we're fooling anyone. 239 00:12:55,395 --> 00:12:56,175 People get it. 240 00:12:56,625 --> 00:13:01,335 And so that just shows, okay, if I do hire this person something, I 241 00:13:01,335 --> 00:13:02,715 also try to instill into my kids. 242 00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:06,075 If I do hire this person, at least I know what to expect, right? 243 00:13:06,195 --> 00:13:08,625 That transl into security. 244 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,380 Expectation. 245 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:12,510 Less surprises. 246 00:13:12,515 --> 00:13:12,855 Mm-hmm. 247 00:13:12,939 --> 00:13:13,110 Mm-hmm. 248 00:13:13,770 --> 00:13:14,490 Less turnover. 249 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:18,000 If you wanna talk about budgetary things, you know, if this person leaves, well at 250 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,920 least I'll have an expectation of why. 251 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:20,730 Right? 252 00:13:20,819 --> 00:13:23,400 We already talked about they're gonna work hard and do those kind of things. 253 00:13:23,730 --> 00:13:29,520 So, uh, that's just an example of what I meant by transparency, um, being 254 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,620 honest and then what it is to serve. 255 00:13:32,385 --> 00:13:35,714 Whether it's a valet or whether it's a Disney Prime example, I'm a 256 00:13:35,714 --> 00:13:37,305 manager of the Walt Disney Company. 257 00:13:37,305 --> 00:13:40,605 I work on the corporate side in post-production. 258 00:13:40,964 --> 00:13:43,844 Think of me as a liaison between filmmakers and 259 00:13:43,844 --> 00:13:45,824 post-production and the studio. 260 00:13:46,395 --> 00:13:48,915 Once the filmmakers show up and say, okay, we got the footage from the 261 00:13:48,915 --> 00:13:53,535 actors, everybody, now we need to put this movie together, splice it together. 262 00:13:53,594 --> 00:13:54,314 They come to us. 263 00:13:54,314 --> 00:13:57,584 We give them a literal space to do that, and if they need something 264 00:13:57,584 --> 00:13:59,745 from the studio, they call my team. 265 00:14:01,050 --> 00:14:05,880 So my day may consist of organizing their equipment, making sure that they have 266 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,719 what they need to literally, uh, turn on the lights in the room, whatever. 267 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:18,120 Or it could mean the Cheeto box is empty and the client really prefer hot Cheetos. 268 00:14:18,209 --> 00:14:21,359 So can you take the hot Cheetos out and make sure you put the other Cheetos 269 00:14:21,359 --> 00:14:23,939 in, or even just coworkers downstairs. 270 00:14:23,939 --> 00:14:27,870 So imagine me coming from set. 271 00:14:28,185 --> 00:14:31,665 Or from that motion capture, uh, experience that you spoke of being 272 00:14:31,724 --> 00:14:36,704 ushered around and the big black trucks and new electric Cadillacs 273 00:14:36,704 --> 00:14:38,175 and all that kind of stuff. 274 00:14:38,625 --> 00:14:42,495 First class flights and then I come back to Disney and as 275 00:14:42,495 --> 00:14:46,334 soon as I get in the door, Hey Chris, the fruit basket is empty. 276 00:14:46,814 --> 00:14:48,045 Can you get on that for me, brother? 277 00:14:48,224 --> 00:14:48,645 Thanks. 278 00:14:48,645 --> 00:14:49,334 Let me know when you're done. 279 00:14:49,875 --> 00:14:52,334 Yeah, it's very trippy. 280 00:14:52,770 --> 00:14:54,060 Yeah, they're humbling. 281 00:14:54,569 --> 00:14:54,750 Yeah. 282 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:58,709 So I, even with knowing the beauty of servanthood and in order to 283 00:14:58,709 --> 00:15:01,770 be the a most impactful leader, you've gotta know how to serve. 284 00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:04,920 To be, you have to be, have to be an impactful, uh, servant. 285 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:08,550 Even with me knowing that and going through all this experience 286 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:13,615 that we just shared, it's hard depending on what that task is. 287 00:15:14,155 --> 00:15:14,574 Mm-hmm. 288 00:15:14,574 --> 00:15:14,814 Mm-hmm. 289 00:15:14,954 --> 00:15:15,375 Mm-hmm. 290 00:15:15,555 --> 00:15:18,810 But to be able to show impressive feel that you're willing 291 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:20,730 to do it when people know. 292 00:15:21,465 --> 00:15:24,795 Again, honestly, people know, okay, we got this, we got this 293 00:15:24,795 --> 00:15:25,665 brother out here doing this. 294 00:15:25,665 --> 00:15:28,125 And the people I talk to, my leadership at the company, 295 00:15:28,125 --> 00:15:31,574 they, they appreciate my acting. 296 00:15:31,574 --> 00:15:35,715 They champion me there and they also appreciate what I bring to the company on 297 00:15:35,715 --> 00:15:37,545 the professional corporate side of things. 298 00:15:37,545 --> 00:15:40,665 And they're just waiting for me to say, okay, I'm all in, or 299 00:15:40,845 --> 00:15:42,285 I'm gonna go act full time now. 300 00:15:42,285 --> 00:15:44,084 So don't get me wrong, they're supportive. 301 00:15:44,505 --> 00:15:46,485 They love me in terms of all that kind of stuff. 302 00:15:46,905 --> 00:15:49,574 Um, and they also understand that, Hey Chris, we get it. 303 00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:54,330 It's tough, but at the end of the day, we do need these baskets stacked, right? 304 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,090 And that's just what it is. 305 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:00,810 Um, but that's an example of really having to humble myself, oneself 306 00:16:00,810 --> 00:16:02,820 and say, okay, I need to serve. 307 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:03,600 'cause guess what? 308 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:04,620 I'll conclude on this. 309 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:08,190 When I show up to set, I. You better believe that I'm looking 310 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:10,170 for those welts fruit snack packs. 311 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:12,810 I go crafty because it's my favorite snack. 312 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:14,854 Well, hey, here we go. 313 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,040 I just wanna kind of share, 'cause you saying that Chris, 314 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,420 about like transparency. 315 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,560 It just brought me back. 316 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,450 I haven't thought of this in a long time. 317 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:26,100 It just literally brought me back. 318 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:30,510 I was like, oh yeah, I remember that when I first came here and I wanted to 319 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:34,800 be a dancer and I would like go look for jobs and I had another layer of um. 320 00:16:35,020 --> 00:16:38,470 Difficulty added to that because at that time I didn't have my papers. 321 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:45,130 So not only did I like, hi, I want the job, can you pay me cash under the table? 322 00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:45,220 Like 323 00:16:45,220 --> 00:16:46,420 directions paper? 324 00:16:46,565 --> 00:16:46,855 Yeah, 325 00:16:46,855 --> 00:16:47,680 because yeah, yeah. 326 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,030 Like my immigration papers. 327 00:16:49,060 --> 00:16:49,300 Oh, okay. 328 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:50,170 I 329 00:16:50,170 --> 00:16:52,600 didn't have my immigration papers yet figured out, you know? 330 00:16:52,630 --> 00:16:55,690 'cause I was actually on a tourist visa when I first came here. 331 00:16:56,140 --> 00:17:02,560 So I had that another layer up of like, uh, yeah, um, I actually need 332 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,000 to be paid in cash 'cause I don't. 333 00:17:04,665 --> 00:17:06,915 I'm not legally not allowed to work here. 334 00:17:07,095 --> 00:17:11,565 Mm. And then by the way, I'm a dancer or at least trying to be a working dancer. 335 00:17:11,565 --> 00:17:14,175 And at any point I could just, I just need to call in and 336 00:17:14,175 --> 00:17:15,825 say, sorry, I can't be there. 337 00:17:16,095 --> 00:17:16,425 Right. 338 00:17:16,425 --> 00:17:22,774 And that level of fear of like, I. Who, I need this job, but I can't let 339 00:17:22,774 --> 00:17:27,004 them know that I'm a dancer because there's potential that I might call 340 00:17:27,004 --> 00:17:28,625 out, you know, all these things. 341 00:17:28,655 --> 00:17:28,745 Mm-hmm. 342 00:17:29,074 --> 00:17:32,314 And there's a potential that it could happen multiple times in a 343 00:17:32,314 --> 00:17:34,594 week, and I have no control over it. 344 00:17:34,594 --> 00:17:34,925 Right. 345 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:36,995 And, and then realizing. 346 00:17:37,725 --> 00:17:42,285 The only way for this to actually work is to actually be truthful about it. 347 00:17:43,275 --> 00:17:47,505 It's the only way, you know, and, and so yeah, it's, it's funny that it's a memory 348 00:17:47,505 --> 00:17:49,335 that I have not thought of in a long time. 349 00:17:49,335 --> 00:17:51,525 And you just saying that really brought all that back. 350 00:17:52,755 --> 00:17:53,085 Yeah. 351 00:17:53,325 --> 00:17:53,745 Um, and. 352 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,870 We've known each other for a while, Chris. 353 00:17:55,870 --> 00:17:55,960 Yes. 354 00:17:56,050 --> 00:18:02,800 And uh, your honesty and transparency is, is always like something I look forward 355 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,270 to, like speaking with you on, whether it's, um, things that you're sharing, 356 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:11,679 you know, for me or just what, you know, whatever struggles you're going through, 357 00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:16,060 your open, you do have that humility and it's such a beautiful characteristic. 358 00:18:16,060 --> 00:18:20,070 But I. I can see that you just excelling in so many different ways 359 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:24,629 from where you're at right now, because you have such a balance of that. 360 00:18:24,629 --> 00:18:30,870 The leadership, the, um, humor, humor, the ex, just the uh, the 361 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:34,379 excellence when you're on stage and you go into that performance side 362 00:18:34,379 --> 00:18:36,090 of things, but then also just the. 363 00:18:37,125 --> 00:18:39,765 The gift that you're able to give other people by stepping back and 364 00:18:39,765 --> 00:18:42,945 having that humility, being able to serve and to lift others up. 365 00:18:43,785 --> 00:18:48,255 I try to echo that as much as I can in my, in my role also at at work, 366 00:18:48,555 --> 00:18:52,965 where you have to get in the weeds, you know, with, with the people that you're 367 00:18:53,055 --> 00:18:54,885 working with and that you're serving for. 368 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:59,595 And that's such a great position that you're in. 369 00:18:59,595 --> 00:19:03,195 I know you're gonna not be there probably your entire life by any means. 370 00:19:03,195 --> 00:19:04,215 I know you're gonna excel in. 371 00:19:04,605 --> 00:19:06,165 Blow up in different directions. 372 00:19:07,905 --> 00:19:11,595 Um, but I do think that these are definite lifelong lessons that 373 00:19:11,595 --> 00:19:14,295 you're gonna be carrying through with you, your, your entire life. 374 00:19:15,195 --> 00:19:19,695 I wanted to ask though, too, you mentioned that, you know, acting, it's 375 00:19:19,695 --> 00:19:21,375 who you are, it's what brings you life. 376 00:19:21,375 --> 00:19:21,970 It's that mm-hmm. 377 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:24,675 What you feel you could, you've been called to do. 378 00:19:25,155 --> 00:19:28,005 When did you start getting exposed to theater and acting? 379 00:19:28,005 --> 00:19:30,345 'cause it sounded like you, you know, with the childhood you're 380 00:19:30,345 --> 00:19:34,005 moving between Memphis, Atlanta, and every, what was the first 381 00:19:34,005 --> 00:19:36,915 opportunity you had to get into acting? 382 00:19:37,155 --> 00:19:42,705 And then when did you really feel like this is the calling, like this is God 383 00:19:42,705 --> 00:19:46,665 the divine, and everybody speaking to you and saying, you need to step out on this? 384 00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:47,565 Yeah. 385 00:19:47,745 --> 00:19:48,195 Yeah. 386 00:19:49,125 --> 00:19:51,855 I just got a little emotional thinking about this question for some reason. 387 00:19:51,855 --> 00:19:52,335 I don't know why. 388 00:19:52,335 --> 00:19:54,045 I'll just keep talking and we'll figure it out. 389 00:19:55,635 --> 00:20:04,155 So when I was in elementary school or middle school, maybe freshman 390 00:20:04,155 --> 00:20:08,295 year, you know, what do you wanna be when you grow up, doctor, lawyer, 391 00:20:08,295 --> 00:20:10,125 football player, actor, whatever. 392 00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:11,865 Seemed cool at the time, right? 393 00:20:11,865 --> 00:20:13,754 Again, without having that structure and consistency, my 394 00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:16,965 mind truly wasn't on the future. 395 00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:17,775 My mind was on. 396 00:20:19,185 --> 00:20:19,995 Right now. 397 00:20:20,265 --> 00:20:20,355 Mm-hmm. 398 00:20:20,595 --> 00:20:23,955 Whatever was in front of me and me as a, as a child, trying to grapple 399 00:20:23,955 --> 00:20:28,785 with having, even though I didn't know what, how to word it or frame 400 00:20:28,785 --> 00:20:31,095 it or process it with my world being 401 00:20:33,255 --> 00:20:38,055 deconstructed in a very aggressive and violent way, talking about divorce. 402 00:20:38,955 --> 00:20:41,265 And as a child, not knowing what to do with that. 403 00:20:41,265 --> 00:20:45,195 And you know, my mom doing her best and she was very protective, 404 00:20:45,225 --> 00:20:48,795 overprotective because she was a single mom just trying to do her best 405 00:20:48,795 --> 00:20:50,145 to raise me and do her thing, right? 406 00:20:50,835 --> 00:20:52,485 So my life was just about the now. 407 00:20:52,485 --> 00:20:55,305 So I didn't really have a hard goal of being anything in 408 00:20:55,305 --> 00:20:56,100 particular when I was younger. 409 00:20:56,715 --> 00:21:00,345 I think I did a play in high school, which was not good. 410 00:21:00,465 --> 00:21:02,175 Um, my ninth grade year. 411 00:21:03,615 --> 00:21:06,675 So Nashville School of the Arts, I hear, I haven't been back to Nashville 412 00:21:06,675 --> 00:21:07,785 where I'm from in a long time. 413 00:21:07,785 --> 00:21:11,925 Unfortunately, I hear Nashville School of the Arts is a very, very good school now. 414 00:21:11,955 --> 00:21:12,585 Great school. 415 00:21:12,795 --> 00:21:14,955 When I was there, it was literally first started. 416 00:21:15,405 --> 00:21:17,865 They sent out letters in the mail, Hey, check a box here if 417 00:21:17,865 --> 00:21:18,675 you wanna go to this school. 418 00:21:18,675 --> 00:21:21,045 That school, this school for high school, Nashville School of the 419 00:21:21,045 --> 00:21:22,695 Arts was one of the boxes I checked. 420 00:21:22,695 --> 00:21:22,785 Mm-hmm. 421 00:21:23,235 --> 00:21:25,215 There's a lot of these system, as far as I know. 422 00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:25,875 Mm-hmm. 423 00:21:26,790 --> 00:21:28,170 Getting there, going there. 424 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,400 We did one play. 425 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,500 The drama teacher got fired for some reason. 426 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:32,310 I don't remember. 427 00:21:32,370 --> 00:21:34,110 It was in shambles, is what I'm saying. 428 00:21:34,110 --> 00:21:37,500 It wasn't like a Julliard of the South by any anyways. 429 00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:38,010 Okay. 430 00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:40,320 It was just a play. 431 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:40,920 I was just doing it. 432 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,520 I was just hanging out. 433 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,350 I don't think I looked at any lines, you know what I mean? 434 00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:46,200 I just think I just showed up for the performance and you know. 435 00:21:46,665 --> 00:21:49,695 Fumbled my way through the, it was very disrespectful of the craft itself. 436 00:21:49,754 --> 00:21:54,195 It was disrespectful to the audience, to the teacher, to my classmates, you 437 00:21:54,195 --> 00:21:55,665 know, just the kid doing whatever. 438 00:21:56,175 --> 00:21:58,995 So that probably was my first introduction, but literally I 439 00:21:58,995 --> 00:22:00,435 could have been playing kickball. 440 00:22:00,524 --> 00:22:01,514 It, it really didn't matter. 441 00:22:01,995 --> 00:22:02,084 Yeah. 442 00:22:02,114 --> 00:22:06,675 Um, I think I may have auditioned also before high school for a 443 00:22:06,675 --> 00:22:07,965 a, a School of the Arts there. 444 00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:13,094 And I do remember it not being a good experience. 445 00:22:13,125 --> 00:22:14,729 Like the teacher was like, this kid. 446 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:17,910 No, it doesn't need to be here, doesn't need to be acting, doesn't 447 00:22:17,910 --> 00:22:20,220 need to be doing anything artistic. 448 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:23,070 And it was quite negative. 449 00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:26,580 And so we move on from that and just go to school or whatever. 450 00:22:27,030 --> 00:22:29,400 And then again, moving back and forth. 451 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,170 I was speed up to story my junior year in high school. 452 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,600 Ended up moving to um, Atlanta for a little bit, and then ultimately 453 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,190 Baltimore for my senior year. 454 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:42,720 Why did I move? 455 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,210 Well, my friends and I thought it would be a good idea to go to the mall and take 456 00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:50,370 things that not belong to us clothing. 457 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Listen to this story. 458 00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:55,110 This go. 459 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:55,320 Okay. 460 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,280 Anyway, so you know how during prom season in school, well, at least in 461 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,140 the south anyway, they'll always have, uh, kids from the local community 462 00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:06,180 or whatever, do a fashion show. 463 00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:07,020 Yeah. 464 00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:11,459 You know, Texas dresses, whatever I was doing that I thought it would 465 00:23:11,459 --> 00:23:16,500 be a good idea to do what my friends and I have been doing in full tuxedo. 466 00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:21,300 Get up garb, walk around and basically steal clothes. 467 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,340 What we would do is we would go behind the cash wrap. 468 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:25,385 Hey Kitty, go behind the cash wrap. 469 00:23:25,409 --> 00:23:26,669 And you can be a part of the story too. 470 00:23:26,729 --> 00:23:27,179 That's right. 471 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:28,770 I the actor here, Chris. 472 00:23:29,129 --> 00:23:32,850 Um, go behind the cash wrap, take bags. 473 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,389 Right. 474 00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:36,449 And then just put clothing in the bag to look like we were shopping. 475 00:23:38,435 --> 00:23:39,676 I decided to, I love it. 476 00:23:40,410 --> 00:23:43,230 Stuff as much, many things not thinking. 477 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,275 Well, a cashier would just give you. 478 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,870 Two or three bags versus stuffing all this stuff in here. 479 00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:53,100 So I was looking like foolish and I would walk outside, push stuff under a car. 480 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:53,610 Right? 481 00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:54,690 Go back in, do it again. 482 00:23:54,990 --> 00:23:58,050 The last time I came outside was like a team of security 483 00:23:58,050 --> 00:23:59,250 guards waiting for me, whatever. 484 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,879 Okay son. 485 00:24:00,150 --> 00:24:01,560 Ah, gotta go win. 486 00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:06,060 So back during that time, if you, this was all like Ralph Lauren 487 00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:07,350 and Tommy and all that kind stuff. 488 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:07,710 We used to work. 489 00:24:07,710 --> 00:24:07,920 Yeah. 490 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:11,010 So you didn't need much to get over $500 worth of. 491 00:24:12,195 --> 00:24:12,585 Whatever. 492 00:24:13,095 --> 00:24:13,635 Yeah, yeah. 493 00:24:13,635 --> 00:24:13,935 It was over 494 00:24:13,935 --> 00:24:14,565 500 bucks. 495 00:24:14,565 --> 00:24:17,235 It's a felony, which means you gotta go to court. 496 00:24:17,955 --> 00:24:23,445 It was Friday, the courts are closed, so now that meant you have to go to juvenile 497 00:24:23,445 --> 00:24:26,685 for the weekend until you can go to court. 498 00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:30,585 So I had to call my mom and not say, Hey mom, I'm done. 499 00:24:30,585 --> 00:24:31,425 Can't come pick me up. 500 00:24:31,485 --> 00:24:33,915 But hey mom, I'm, I got arrested. 501 00:24:34,485 --> 00:24:37,545 So she was like, okay, well hey, I'm not gonna come pick you up. 502 00:24:38,265 --> 00:24:38,505 Sorry. 503 00:24:38,835 --> 00:24:40,035 You know better. 504 00:24:41,055 --> 00:24:42,465 So I had to call my godfather. 505 00:24:42,795 --> 00:24:43,785 He came and picked me up. 506 00:24:44,655 --> 00:24:46,905 My mom was like, I gotta get this kid outta here. 507 00:24:46,905 --> 00:24:50,925 So I ended up moving to Atlanta for a bit with my uncle, and then ultimately to 508 00:24:50,925 --> 00:24:52,965 Maryland, which is where my mom had moved. 509 00:24:54,015 --> 00:24:54,795 Mm. Yeah. 510 00:24:54,795 --> 00:24:55,965 The story's going somewhere. 511 00:24:55,965 --> 00:24:56,505 Don't work. 512 00:24:56,865 --> 00:25:00,795 Oh, I, I'm in, finished my senior year in Baltimore. 513 00:25:01,365 --> 00:25:04,305 Kind of fell into the local college there. 514 00:25:04,905 --> 00:25:06,765 Just because I was like, oh, I guess I should go to college. 515 00:25:06,765 --> 00:25:07,785 I graduated high school. 516 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:11,565 I took like the SAT or whatever it was, or AC a CT at that time. 517 00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:11,830 Mm-hmm. 518 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:15,645 Like the last possible time scored high enough, at least to get into college. 519 00:25:16,545 --> 00:25:19,905 Went to college there, one of the members in our friend group up and 520 00:25:19,905 --> 00:25:21,885 left and went to the Air Force. 521 00:25:21,885 --> 00:25:21,975 Mm-hmm. 522 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,930 Look, okay. 523 00:25:24,405 --> 00:25:26,955 So I'm traveling, going back and forth to New York during this time, 524 00:25:26,955 --> 00:25:29,385 just doing some different things, not really focused on school. 525 00:25:30,075 --> 00:25:31,335 Uh, other things happen. 526 00:25:31,815 --> 00:25:32,595 I'm like, you know what? 527 00:25:33,975 --> 00:25:37,455 The only way I would stop going to school if something crazy happened. 528 00:25:37,455 --> 00:25:39,105 My mom was like, Chris, you're not focused. 529 00:25:39,105 --> 00:25:41,445 Just come move this at this time. 530 00:25:41,445 --> 00:25:42,825 She's moved to Florida. 531 00:25:43,215 --> 00:25:44,745 She said, Chris, just come down here. 532 00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:46,095 Get your life back together. 533 00:25:46,754 --> 00:25:47,264 Figure it out. 534 00:25:47,325 --> 00:25:49,575 And I'm like, the only way I'm gonna move is if I crash my car. 535 00:25:49,575 --> 00:25:50,264 Something crazy. 536 00:25:50,625 --> 00:25:51,975 She's, I crashed my car like a week later. 537 00:25:52,004 --> 00:25:52,995 I'm like, all right, I guess I'm going. 538 00:25:55,215 --> 00:25:56,655 Be careful what you say, I guess. 539 00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:56,970 Yeah. 540 00:25:57,975 --> 00:25:58,035 Yeah. 541 00:25:58,065 --> 00:26:00,975 So I'm in Miami, south Beach every weekend. 542 00:26:01,605 --> 00:26:03,585 In my mom's car until the sun comes up. 543 00:26:04,395 --> 00:26:10,395 My mom is like, Hey man, this is not why I told you to come here in my car. 544 00:26:10,785 --> 00:26:12,885 So I'm fussing, I'm yelling, I'm fighting. 545 00:26:12,885 --> 00:26:14,115 I'm acting crazy. 546 00:26:14,775 --> 00:26:16,965 Uh, and it got to the point where I called out my friend, I said, Hey, 547 00:26:16,965 --> 00:26:18,585 Terrence, you like the military? 548 00:26:18,585 --> 00:26:19,545 Said, yeah man, I love it. 549 00:26:19,935 --> 00:26:22,845 So I literally went, didn't say anything to my mom or anybody else. 550 00:26:22,845 --> 00:26:25,455 I signed up for the military on a whim. 551 00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:28,260 God was looking out for me. 552 00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:32,190 I ended up being an air traffic controller there at the air traffic controller Tower. 553 00:26:32,220 --> 00:26:37,560 One of the civilians, his wife needed some volunteers for community theater. 554 00:26:38,399 --> 00:26:40,199 I said yes, no one else did. 555 00:26:40,620 --> 00:26:43,770 That is the true spark that kicked off. 556 00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:45,929 Okay, maybe I want to do this thing for real. 557 00:26:46,379 --> 00:26:46,470 Mm-hmm. 558 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:47,520 I did two plays. 559 00:26:48,030 --> 00:26:51,389 Uh, one was a musical, one was a stage play, traditional stage play. 560 00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:56,070 I had a blast and I decided, um, when I got out was like a year later 561 00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:59,100 to move to LA and give it a shot. 562 00:27:00,149 --> 00:27:00,600 Wow. 563 00:27:00,929 --> 00:27:01,169 Yeah. 564 00:27:01,574 --> 00:27:02,084 Wow, 565 00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:02,439 that's cool. 566 00:27:02,715 --> 00:27:04,094 That's a cool story. 567 00:27:04,094 --> 00:27:06,824 Like there's just so many connecting pieces to it, you know? 568 00:27:06,824 --> 00:27:09,614 And just if you look back, you're like, it was it. 569 00:27:09,705 --> 00:27:11,504 I mean, 'cause it's always in hindsight, right? 570 00:27:11,504 --> 00:27:14,985 Like we, we don't know until we're like past it and we look back, we're like, 571 00:27:14,985 --> 00:27:17,205 oh, okay, this is why this happened. 572 00:27:17,925 --> 00:27:20,685 Almost like a consistency and inconsistency and then. 573 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,660 The adaptability that you had to go through those different cities, different 574 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:29,190 friend groups, different experiences with the shoplifting and the, uh, 575 00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:32,190 getting into school or graduating and then getting into college, and then 576 00:27:32,879 --> 00:27:36,330 just all the, all of that is Yeah. 577 00:27:36,330 --> 00:27:36,331 Yeah. 578 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,140 It's amazing. 579 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:41,640 What, first of all, as an air traffic controller in the Air Force, 580 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,650 do you have a favorite aircraft? 581 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,890 Actually, by default, I do. 582 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,440 My favorite aircraft is. 583 00:27:50,295 --> 00:27:56,685 The F 22 Raptor, they have like F 22 A or F 22, whatever it is now, but mm-hmm. 584 00:27:56,685 --> 00:27:58,965 So when the Raptor first came out. 585 00:28:00,389 --> 00:28:02,340 We were one of the basics that they were testing. 586 00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:05,879 So I mean, that thing would come out and if it rained one, and this 587 00:28:05,879 --> 00:28:07,710 is Florida, so it rains, right? 588 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,320 If it wonder just every day that thing to it, right back into the thing. 589 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,570 Everything had to be perfect. 590 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:17,790 Conditions had to be perfect, you know? 591 00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:21,300 So we saw it like go and go back, taxi out and go back, and then 592 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,100 eventually got up in the air. 593 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:26,280 But the difference between, so, um. 594 00:28:26,715 --> 00:28:30,945 My base, Tendo Air Force Base, air Force base in Panama City, Florida was, is a 595 00:28:30,945 --> 00:28:33,675 fighter try fighter pilot training base. 596 00:28:33,675 --> 00:28:40,815 So once the fighters or the pilots get qualified to test on the fighter plane, 597 00:28:41,205 --> 00:28:44,625 um, they come to our base and they'll do all the practices and their approaches 598 00:28:44,625 --> 00:28:47,835 and the dog fighting the pretend wars out in the airspace or whatever. 599 00:28:48,285 --> 00:28:52,395 Um, but those are f fifteens for the most part on our base. 600 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,520 Yeah. 601 00:28:52,815 --> 00:28:55,695 So it was cool to see this brand new fighter that was essentially. 602 00:28:56,220 --> 00:28:58,320 Replace or be the new F 15. 603 00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:01,590 Um, and the difference between those two aircraft was amazing. 604 00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:05,850 The F 15, for example, uh, if it takes off to do a quick climb, which is where 605 00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:12,930 they straight up, yeah, go on the runway and man this way, then they kind of, yeah. 606 00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:17,850 With the F 22, when they came out, it was like, you know, and straight up. 607 00:29:18,510 --> 00:29:19,649 So it was wild. 608 00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:21,240 And so that's why it's my favorite plane. 609 00:29:21,899 --> 00:29:22,470 That's amazing. 610 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:25,800 Yeah, they, uh, I'm a bit of a nerd and, uh, oh yes. 611 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:28,740 Love, love watching the, uh, F 20 twos fly around. 612 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,200 Um, do you know Fort Hill Air Force Base, did you ever spend 613 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,190 any time over there or No. 614 00:29:32,565 --> 00:29:33,045 Where's that? 615 00:29:33,525 --> 00:29:34,275 Uh, Utah. 616 00:29:34,395 --> 00:29:37,815 Uh, my brother lives at the end of the runway basically, and they 617 00:29:37,815 --> 00:29:39,975 have a whole fleet of those, so they're always cruising around. 618 00:29:40,965 --> 00:29:43,335 And he hates 'em only because they're loudest damn thing. 619 00:29:44,025 --> 00:29:44,265 Yeah. 620 00:29:46,005 --> 00:29:47,805 Um, but he, he works on the Air Force base. 621 00:29:47,805 --> 00:29:50,895 He plane paints, planes and stuff, so he, he gets up close and 622 00:29:50,895 --> 00:29:51,710 personal with a bunch of those. 623 00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:52,030 Nice. 624 00:29:52,155 --> 00:29:54,615 Um, sorry, that was a total, like sidetrack. 625 00:29:54,615 --> 00:29:55,095 I was just Oh, good. 626 00:29:59,410 --> 00:29:59,630 In. 627 00:30:00,915 --> 00:30:06,645 I did not know how much the military or my military experience would pay 628 00:30:06,645 --> 00:30:10,635 off or play a part in my acting career. 629 00:30:10,725 --> 00:30:10,815 Mm-hmm. 630 00:30:11,055 --> 00:30:16,485 Like the first slew of roles, it was always young military, young cop 631 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:23,655 police, and I figured out, okay, I know what Hollywood views as military guy. 632 00:30:24,645 --> 00:30:25,155 I get it. 633 00:30:25,425 --> 00:30:26,534 That's not true. 634 00:30:26,534 --> 00:30:27,435 We're all different. 635 00:30:27,435 --> 00:30:28,215 We're all unique. 636 00:30:28,215 --> 00:30:28,605 Right. 637 00:30:28,814 --> 00:30:30,495 But I know what they perceive it as. 638 00:30:30,794 --> 00:30:31,004 Yeah. 639 00:30:31,004 --> 00:30:38,955 So you know, NCIS, all those, I've been on NCIS, this NCIS that, and there's 640 00:30:38,955 --> 00:30:43,605 a new NCIS, which I just booked again, so I'll be shooting that next week. 641 00:30:43,665 --> 00:30:44,054 Thank you. 642 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,000 This particular character, I'm like, oh, I know this character. 643 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,740 In this particular case, this was literally me like 10, 15, 20 years ago. 644 00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:53,100 Wow. 645 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:57,629 Those were things, uh, you know, it's all by God's design, but when you're going 646 00:30:57,629 --> 00:31:02,580 through life and a lot of that stuff is hard, you know, we talked about separation 647 00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:06,660 and then this, and being at a new place and being the new, new kid every time. 648 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:06,930 Right. 649 00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:07,889 And all that kind of stuff. 650 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,879 Or just new adult, anywhere, new job, new city, whatever it is. 651 00:31:12,465 --> 00:31:17,895 There's a lot of peaks and valleys that we go through, but we don't realize how 652 00:31:18,855 --> 00:31:24,705 a lot of those things that may seem to bring so much doubt or fear or confusion 653 00:31:25,335 --> 00:31:29,985 will be some of those moments that really become pillars and foundations 654 00:31:30,045 --> 00:31:32,835 of the great things that are to come. 655 00:31:33,195 --> 00:31:34,485 Mm-hmm. 656 00:31:34,485 --> 00:31:34,488 You know? 657 00:31:34,493 --> 00:31:34,620 Mm-hmm. 658 00:31:35,205 --> 00:31:35,595 Wow. 659 00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:36,645 That's really awesome. 660 00:31:37,064 --> 00:31:41,804 Could you talk on how the military kinda set you up to get into sag? 661 00:31:41,985 --> 00:31:43,425 'cause I know you did some work. 662 00:31:44,504 --> 00:31:44,985 Yeah. 663 00:31:45,495 --> 00:31:47,804 Um, how did I get into sag? 664 00:31:48,915 --> 00:31:52,814 Oh, so there's a group out in LA called, uh, VME. 665 00:31:52,814 --> 00:31:55,395 It used to be VFT, veterans and Film and Television. 666 00:31:55,395 --> 00:31:58,844 Now it's veterans and Military and Entertainment. 667 00:31:59,205 --> 00:31:59,445 Mm-hmm. 668 00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:04,665 Uh, they are a resource group basically for veterans who have any aspirations or 669 00:32:04,665 --> 00:32:06,105 who are in the entertainment industry. 670 00:32:06,105 --> 00:32:06,554 Period. 671 00:32:06,645 --> 00:32:07,455 Doesn't have to be active. 672 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:08,710 Whatever it is. 673 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,400 And so being able to connect with groups like that, to have resources 674 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,740 with people who are working at the studios or working as writers or 675 00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:19,420 directors, uh, or just who have been out here forever and are veterans with 676 00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:24,430 connections, has been really a blessing and, um, quite impactful and helpful. 677 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:27,310 The way I got into Sac technically though, was I think I had a 678 00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:31,480 couple of vouchers I needed maybe one more, uh, before SAG after. 679 00:32:32,415 --> 00:32:38,295 Before SAG and AFTRA merged, anybody who was AFTRA already, this is for the 680 00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:40,390 union nerds out there if they mm-hmm. 681 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:45,285 Are any, uh, if you were aftra, once the unions joined, you 682 00:32:45,285 --> 00:32:47,025 automatically became sag. 683 00:32:47,025 --> 00:32:47,115 Mm-hmm. 684 00:32:47,355 --> 00:32:48,045 Technically how? 685 00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:48,330 Gotcha. 686 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,590 Gotcha, gotcha. 687 00:32:50,430 --> 00:32:54,060 What's cool too is like with your experiences, just the amount of people 688 00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:56,850 that you've been able to help, 'cause I've seen it like, you know, with the 689 00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:58,800 theater company that we've been a part of. 690 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:04,770 And, uh, just in your life with really serving your community and lifting 691 00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:10,980 others up, do you have guidelines, some approaches that you typically take 692 00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:15,495 that would help other people kind of explore, you know, their passions, their. 693 00:33:16,485 --> 00:33:19,575 Access to being able to get into like the acting world as, or 694 00:33:19,695 --> 00:33:20,835 the creative world in general? 695 00:33:20,865 --> 00:33:21,015 Mm-hmm. 696 00:33:21,254 --> 00:33:22,004 Actually, yeah, we can kind 697 00:33:22,004 --> 00:33:23,175 of sum all of that up. 698 00:33:24,165 --> 00:33:28,695 One, we have to remember that we're all human beings, right? 699 00:33:28,695 --> 00:33:30,525 So we can focus on our differences. 700 00:33:31,575 --> 00:33:34,545 Or what he has, or she has and we don't, et cetera. 701 00:33:34,635 --> 00:33:37,665 Or we can focus on the fact that at the end of the day, I don't 702 00:33:37,665 --> 00:33:39,195 need to let those things move me. 703 00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:42,765 I don't need to worry, be worried about what someone else has, nor I need to, 704 00:33:43,005 --> 00:33:47,205 nor do I need to spend time and energy focusing on someone else who may be hating 705 00:33:47,205 --> 00:33:50,445 on me or whatever because of what I do or don't have, all that kind of stuff. 706 00:33:50,835 --> 00:33:51,105 Hmm. 707 00:33:52,605 --> 00:33:56,655 Whether it's working at Disney, whether it's being on set, we all 708 00:33:56,655 --> 00:33:58,785 understand that when you spend. 709 00:33:59,909 --> 00:34:00,719 What's the statistics? 710 00:34:00,719 --> 00:34:03,929 Say you spend more time in the car between the car and at work, you more time. 711 00:34:03,929 --> 00:34:07,260 You spend more time in traffic and at work people, you spend 712 00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:10,560 more time with them doing that than you are like at home, right? 713 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,339 So people wanna spend, ideally a lot of time with people that they get along with. 714 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,900 So whether you walk into an audition room, whether you walking into an interview 715 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,850 setting or a workplace or whatever. 716 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:26,220 You wanna present and be someone who is transparent, someone who 717 00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:28,800 is honest, someone who's down to serve and dying to help. 718 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Because people may say, okay, this is somebody I can stand 719 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,450 to be around for five minutes. 720 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,660 Mm-hmm. 721 00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:38,639 For 12 hours if we're talking about being on set 12, 14 hours a day or whatever. 722 00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:42,630 So one, just a reminder to listen, we don't have to be crabs in the bucket. 723 00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:45,720 You can walk into an audition room and feel like, listen, I am here. 724 00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:46,590 I have this gift. 725 00:34:46,590 --> 00:34:48,810 If this role is for me, if this job is for me, it's for me. 726 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:52,020 Doesn't really matter as much. 727 00:34:52,799 --> 00:34:54,270 Who's the best in the room? 728 00:34:54,779 --> 00:34:55,049 Yeah. 729 00:34:55,529 --> 00:34:59,190 I'm gonna bring my best, whether I've been acting for a day 730 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:01,020 or for 15 years, either way. 731 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:01,980 Yeah. 732 00:35:02,460 --> 00:35:04,560 So I don't need to worry about that. 733 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,509 And people trust me, can feel that in the room. 734 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,920 You walk into an audition room, you walk into an interview, whether it's on 735 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,970 Zoom or in person, you walk into a room. 736 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:21,270 People often give off a vibe. 737 00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:27,690 We either compelled to that vibe or we're, what is it, re 738 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:30,060 repelled, repost, vibe, whatever. 739 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:31,800 We don't, we don't want that vibe. 740 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Right? 741 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,100 Yeah. 742 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,950 And it's the same thing in an interview, in an audition room. 743 00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:38,460 So thinking about just being a human serving, right? 744 00:35:38,460 --> 00:35:41,100 What are some ways that keeps me in that mindset? 745 00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:45,510 Well, serving can simply mean if I'm online going to the commissary. 746 00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:49,230 I'm gonna say hello to the person who's cooking the food, handing me 747 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:51,060 the food, taking my money as I go. 748 00:35:51,570 --> 00:35:55,500 When I got to Disney, um, I started during the pandemic, so everything 749 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:59,970 was shut down and I had time to have conversations with people who worked on 750 00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:03,090 the lot, tradesmen, janitors, whatever. 751 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:06,570 And I do remember a quick conversation with someone who worked in the 752 00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:07,980 commissary, in the cafeteria there. 753 00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:12,570 She was like, you know, all these years I've been here, you are one of the first 754 00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:14,490 people that consistently says hello. 755 00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:14,730 Hi. 756 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:15,240 How are you? 757 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:17,070 I've only been there a year. 758 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,470 Again, I already said most people work at Disney for 20 to 50 to 30 to 40 years. 759 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,070 Mm-hmm. 760 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:29,010 Now, I wasn't surprised to hear her say that, but it's always sad 761 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,550 mm-hmm. 762 00:36:29,790 --> 00:36:29,850 To 763 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:31,410 hear people say things like that. 764 00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:36,150 One of the drivers when I was, uh, working on a gig, same type of thing, like, look 765 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:37,380 man, I appreciate you being so nice. 766 00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:39,180 Most people that sit in the back, they don't say nothing. 767 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:40,920 And I get that. 768 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Maybe you're a person who's just quiet, introvert. 769 00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:44,490 It's cool. 770 00:36:46,004 --> 00:36:48,944 But if that's really true, that can read positively too. 771 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:49,609 Mm-hmm. 772 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:50,609 Mm-hmm. 773 00:36:51,105 --> 00:36:53,055 Versus you making a choice to be like, you know what? 774 00:36:53,265 --> 00:36:54,524 I'm taking my food, I'm gone. 775 00:36:54,585 --> 00:36:56,115 Or maybe just subconsciously. 776 00:36:56,670 --> 00:37:00,060 Being so focused on your meeting that you have at two 30 that you 777 00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:02,100 just forgot to look up and say hello. 778 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,390 Okay, fine, I get it. 779 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:07,740 But for those of us who make it a point to recognize those things, 780 00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:11,310 you'll find yourself being afforded much more grace and success. 781 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:12,090 Mm-hmm. 782 00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:12,870 Oh gosh. 783 00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:13,680 This is so good. 784 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,030 I love that you share that. 785 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:17,760 'cause I look at Lee, that's literally how Lee is. 786 00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:20,310 He, he, he always says hi to everybody. 787 00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:21,810 It's, it's awesome. 788 00:37:22,170 --> 00:37:22,620 Um. 789 00:37:23,775 --> 00:37:26,625 The serving, like in in the acting world. 790 00:37:26,805 --> 00:37:27,015 Yeah. 791 00:37:27,090 --> 00:37:27,150 I 792 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:32,520 think it's really awesome that you kind of, your heart is always about service 793 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:39,990 and I think that's a testament to the fact that you have been able to consistently 794 00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:42,480 book jobs because exact It's exactly that. 795 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,470 I think that I realized, um, you know, I think a lot of people think 796 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:49,410 about Hollywood and Los Angeles and they're like, oh, I wanna be an actor. 797 00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:52,440 And everyone is always looking at the glitz and glamor. 798 00:37:52,665 --> 00:37:53,085 Right. 799 00:37:53,535 --> 00:37:58,875 And then you don't realize the work it takes to actually be a good actor. 800 00:37:59,055 --> 00:38:00,705 It takes so much work. 801 00:38:00,765 --> 00:38:04,515 And I didn't know that until I took a Meisner class. 802 00:38:04,995 --> 00:38:09,134 And, um, I would, I every week it was just like, gosh, this is a 803 00:38:09,134 --> 00:38:11,654 lot of like, shedding of yourself. 804 00:38:11,715 --> 00:38:11,805 Mm-hmm. 805 00:38:12,015 --> 00:38:13,845 And letting go of yourself. 806 00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:13,965 Mm-hmm. 807 00:38:14,205 --> 00:38:16,965 And actually not looking at like, oh. 808 00:38:17,819 --> 00:38:22,649 Look at me and what I can do, but really actually connecting with your character 809 00:38:22,830 --> 00:38:24,839 so that you can serve the audience. 810 00:38:24,899 --> 00:38:29,700 It is, and I never saw it that way until I was in the thick of those classes 811 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:32,040 and realized, gosh, acting is hard. 812 00:38:32,430 --> 00:38:32,879 Wow. 813 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,540 Like, yeah. 814 00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:36,480 You know, and realizing, um, do I really want this? 815 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,770 This is really difficult. 816 00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:40,740 So I Thank you for sharing that. 817 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,770 I guess I'm curious what has been like your favorite. 818 00:38:44,505 --> 00:38:45,675 Job, like acting job. 819 00:38:45,825 --> 00:38:50,355 I, I watched a TV show, Jane the Virgin, um, that was my, you know, 820 00:38:50,355 --> 00:38:53,745 guilty flesher show and Lee didn't watch pretty much any of it. 821 00:38:53,745 --> 00:38:54,855 It was me binging it. 822 00:38:54,855 --> 00:38:55,365 Okay. 823 00:38:55,365 --> 00:38:57,255 And, and I love that show. 824 00:38:57,255 --> 00:38:58,815 That show is crazy. 825 00:38:59,205 --> 00:39:01,035 Just crazy out of this world. 826 00:39:01,035 --> 00:39:03,435 Crazy, you know, all the, all the twists and turns. 827 00:39:03,435 --> 00:39:06,465 And of course you were on that show, so when, when you, you came on, I 828 00:39:06,465 --> 00:39:08,055 was like, oh, that's, that's Chris. 829 00:39:09,105 --> 00:39:12,405 So, uh, any of your favorite shops that you wanna share about. 830 00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:16,440 What I like to say about Jane the Virgin, thank you, very kind of you 831 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:24,660 to, to bring it up, is one that's one of those cool traditional Hollywood 832 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,840 stories where it was supposed to be just, first of all, I auditioned for that 833 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,330 show six, seven times, which is normal. 834 00:39:31,215 --> 00:39:34,305 Not necessarily fun all the time, but that just means casting appreciates 835 00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:37,215 you and they'll keep calling you back until they find the right opportunity. 836 00:39:37,634 --> 00:39:37,815 Mm-hmm. 837 00:39:37,815 --> 00:39:39,134 Addition for that show a lot. 838 00:39:39,345 --> 00:39:41,865 It was only supposed to be a day or two, and then it ended up being like 839 00:39:41,865 --> 00:39:43,425 two, two and a half, three seasons. 840 00:39:43,725 --> 00:39:48,315 So always grateful, uh, to God for that opportunity. 841 00:39:48,345 --> 00:39:53,655 And for Gina Rodriguez and Jenny Irwin, the showrunner who basically, and again, 842 00:39:53,655 --> 00:39:56,685 we just got through saying it, that they literally told me and one of the, 843 00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,200 uh, writers was like, you know, Chris. 844 00:39:59,955 --> 00:40:03,345 We saw you and your first day or two you came in, we saw you and Michael, 845 00:40:03,345 --> 00:40:06,735 the other actor, or Brett doing your thing, and we're like, huh. 846 00:40:08,505 --> 00:40:09,435 Something about this guy 847 00:40:10,245 --> 00:40:10,545 I didn't like. 848 00:40:11,625 --> 00:40:11,985 Mm-hmm. 849 00:40:12,225 --> 00:40:12,525 Around. 850 00:40:14,025 --> 00:40:15,495 That's how it always goes. 851 00:40:15,675 --> 00:40:16,245 Again. 852 00:40:16,695 --> 00:40:17,595 One, yes. 853 00:40:18,555 --> 00:40:23,025 Uh, Brett, who plays Michael, he and I, we did have good chemistry in that scene. 854 00:40:23,265 --> 00:40:26,415 It did just fit, but also. 855 00:40:27,165 --> 00:40:32,535 Jean and I, I think just through chatting or whatever, uh, had good conversations 856 00:40:32,535 --> 00:40:34,395 and one, she's just a great leader on set. 857 00:40:34,395 --> 00:40:35,355 It does make a difference. 858 00:40:35,355 --> 00:40:38,025 It's just like any other job, whoever's number one on the call sheet or 859 00:40:38,025 --> 00:40:39,645 like the star of the show mm-hmm. 860 00:40:39,674 --> 00:40:40,904 They set the tone 861 00:40:40,904 --> 00:40:41,955 mm-hmm. 862 00:40:41,956 --> 00:40:41,957 Mm-hmm. 863 00:40:42,255 --> 00:40:43,035 Of the show. 864 00:40:43,125 --> 00:40:45,855 And by the tone, I mean yeah. 865 00:40:45,915 --> 00:40:49,335 Of the show that she's on tv, but like the, the real life stuff. 866 00:40:49,424 --> 00:40:50,235 Are they nice? 867 00:40:50,355 --> 00:40:51,194 Are they kind? 868 00:40:51,555 --> 00:40:51,884 Mm-hmm. 869 00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:52,725 Are they respectful? 870 00:40:53,085 --> 00:40:55,785 You have to be quiet and I'll look at them when they come on set 871 00:40:55,785 --> 00:40:56,745 or they're like, no, no, no, no. 872 00:40:56,745 --> 00:40:58,125 Everyone's gonna be respectful here. 873 00:40:58,185 --> 00:41:01,725 Whether you're an extra, whether they have one day, no lines or all the lines. 874 00:41:01,725 --> 00:41:02,925 Mm-hmm. 875 00:41:02,985 --> 00:41:06,135 The star of the show sets that tone and everybody else kind of follows suit. 876 00:41:06,165 --> 00:41:06,255 Mm-hmm. 877 00:41:06,705 --> 00:41:09,585 And Gina set a very positive tone. 878 00:41:09,585 --> 00:41:10,665 Everybody matters. 879 00:41:10,785 --> 00:41:12,615 So it was really easy to vibe with her. 880 00:41:12,615 --> 00:41:13,335 First of all. 881 00:41:13,575 --> 00:41:17,955 Um, again, we had a cool vibe and so everything just kind of worked well 882 00:41:18,405 --> 00:41:19,965 again, and we all kind of envisioned. 883 00:41:20,685 --> 00:41:22,575 I could probably work here all the time and have a blast. 884 00:41:22,785 --> 00:41:23,055 Mm-hmm. 885 00:41:23,295 --> 00:41:23,685 I felt it. 886 00:41:23,685 --> 00:41:24,315 They felt it. 887 00:41:24,465 --> 00:41:27,585 That's why, along with the chemistry with the other actors and the fun scene 888 00:41:27,585 --> 00:41:29,025 and stuff, I was able to be called back. 889 00:41:29,025 --> 00:41:31,425 But that's just, it's the same thing at Disney. 890 00:41:31,965 --> 00:41:33,165 It's the same exact thing. 891 00:41:33,165 --> 00:41:39,400 At Disney, I've been able to come to know a number of key 892 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,715 senior executives at the company. 893 00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:42,495 Mm-hmm. 894 00:41:42,635 --> 00:41:45,705 And our rapport is not. 895 00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:48,735 Oh, here comes the president of music. 896 00:41:49,035 --> 00:41:50,985 Uh, I know what else? 897 00:41:51,260 --> 00:41:51,920 And I get that. 898 00:41:52,005 --> 00:41:52,965 And that's normal. 899 00:41:53,115 --> 00:41:53,505 Uh oh. 900 00:41:53,505 --> 00:41:55,455 Here comes the rock, Dwayne Johnson. 901 00:41:55,455 --> 00:41:56,207 Oh, oh, oh. 902 00:41:56,355 --> 00:41:57,315 Like it's normal. 903 00:41:57,345 --> 00:41:58,575 Yes, I get it. 904 00:41:59,445 --> 00:42:04,545 But if we spend this time being humble, honest, transparent, and realizing that 905 00:42:04,545 --> 00:42:08,205 we're all people here at the end of the day, and you live your life that 906 00:42:08,205 --> 00:42:11,205 way, it also comes off as refreshing. 907 00:42:11,415 --> 00:42:13,815 When you do get around people who are used to. 908 00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:18,180 Being put on a pedestal or maybe people are shy or nervous, it becomes refreshing. 909 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:19,530 Oh, again, here we go. 910 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,330 This is a guy I can have a conversation with. 911 00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:22,110 Yeah. 912 00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:26,400 But now, for example, with the president of music at Disney, he and I, I'll go to 913 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,950 his office and you know, we just chat. 914 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:29,790 Yes. 915 00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:30,510 You know what I mean? 916 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:35,760 And, um, he's like, you know, Chris, I, I, I appreciate our dynamic. 917 00:42:35,790 --> 00:42:37,650 You really seem like a Disney dude. 918 00:42:38,055 --> 00:42:39,345 A Disney guy. 919 00:42:39,495 --> 00:42:42,795 So if you find something that you like, let me know whether it's here 920 00:42:42,944 --> 00:42:44,055 or whether it's at a different studio. 921 00:42:44,055 --> 00:42:47,444 I know people, and it's so interesting having these conversations 'cause 922 00:42:47,444 --> 00:42:52,005 the, uh, the average employee at Disney will make sense. 923 00:42:52,005 --> 00:42:52,845 They're like, oh really? 924 00:42:53,115 --> 00:42:53,505 Tom? 925 00:42:53,505 --> 00:42:55,154 Like, oh yeah, great. 926 00:42:55,245 --> 00:42:56,444 Like, here's a list of things. 927 00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:58,815 But I've looked for that list. 928 00:42:59,265 --> 00:43:02,895 I've searched for things at Disney that I could possibly do despite 929 00:43:02,895 --> 00:43:06,075 me knowing that acting are my thing that I could possibly do to really. 930 00:43:06,990 --> 00:43:08,280 Possibly fill my cup there. 931 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:09,990 It ain't happening. 932 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,202 I've honestly looked, you know what I mean? 933 00:43:13,207 --> 00:43:14,790 But I think God is just like, nah, bro. 934 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:15,870 Like you're good where you are. 935 00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:16,680 I'm tired. 936 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:19,350 And with these chills y'all, I'm trying to find something else to do. 937 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,490 But God is like, no. 938 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,760 Okay, they're gonna be crispy and tasty and you gonna put 'em in a basket. 939 00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:24,630 Alright, fine. 940 00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:25,350 But no. 941 00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:30,030 But seriously, whether it's being on set or being in a corporate setting, 942 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,640 if you could just work on being a. 943 00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:38,070 As corny or crazy as it sounds, a good person who's confident in not 944 00:43:38,070 --> 00:43:43,860 just what they do, but who they are and what it means and what value you 945 00:43:43,860 --> 00:43:49,140 bring to the table and to the bottom line of the company, uh, by saying, 946 00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:50,760 this is a person who I can trust. 947 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,510 Yeah. 948 00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:52,920 This is a person who's transparent. 949 00:43:53,370 --> 00:43:53,460 Mm-hmm. 950 00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:54,540 They can talk in front of a room. 951 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,360 I can send them to Tokyo, Disney. 952 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,049 Or we can send him to Europe and he is not gonna embarrass production or whatever it 953 00:44:01,049 --> 00:44:04,109 is, then that's worth his weight in gold. 954 00:44:04,589 --> 00:44:09,870 And we can also talk about this from a very like non spiritual. 955 00:44:12,165 --> 00:44:12,524 Acty way. 956 00:44:12,584 --> 00:44:13,665 We can talk about facts. 957 00:44:13,665 --> 00:44:15,314 We can talk about dollars and cents too. 958 00:44:15,375 --> 00:44:17,865 I can talk about what I bring to the table from a corporate setting. 959 00:44:18,345 --> 00:44:18,435 Mm-hmm. 960 00:44:18,705 --> 00:44:21,165 I'll be bored with it, but if that's what somebody wants to talk about, 961 00:44:21,165 --> 00:44:22,365 we can have that conversation. 962 00:44:22,575 --> 00:44:22,665 Mm-hmm. 963 00:44:22,694 --> 00:44:25,875 But I just been in the room and been on set with so many people in power. 964 00:44:25,875 --> 00:44:30,404 You realize that there are good people in power who game recognizes game 965 00:44:30,464 --> 00:44:33,705 People see good people and that's be around at the end of the day. 966 00:44:34,754 --> 00:44:35,115 Yeah. 967 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:35,939 So good. 968 00:44:36,939 --> 00:44:37,419 I, yeah. 969 00:44:38,265 --> 00:44:39,105 So nice. 970 00:44:39,705 --> 00:44:43,155 Just to hear the continuation of what I already know. 971 00:44:43,365 --> 00:44:48,975 You know, like Chris is the type of guy who like randomly on like the time, 972 00:44:49,005 --> 00:44:50,295 the day and time that you need it. 973 00:44:50,325 --> 00:44:53,445 Like there's a text and it's just like, what's up? 974 00:44:53,445 --> 00:44:55,515 Just checking on you, thinking about you. 975 00:44:55,515 --> 00:44:57,285 And it's like, bro. 976 00:44:58,035 --> 00:45:02,685 If I could only tell you how much this means to me right now, and, 977 00:45:02,685 --> 00:45:07,665 uh, I always count on you to possibly send back or reply something that only 978 00:45:07,665 --> 00:45:09,765 Lee would send back or reply with. 979 00:45:10,185 --> 00:45:10,424 Yeah. 980 00:45:10,754 --> 00:45:17,774 I, uh, I'm happy to try to equal smile in my own unique way, for sure. 981 00:45:18,524 --> 00:45:22,875 Um, but you know, it's just, you do have that, that attraction, that 982 00:45:22,904 --> 00:45:25,605 charisma that draws people in and. 983 00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:29,910 It's, it's your openness, it's your willingness to serve. 984 00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:32,550 It's your pursuit of excellence at the same time. 985 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:36,750 Like you're not just sitting, waiting to, um, do something. 986 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,790 You know, you're, you're constantly, my perspective, constantly working 987 00:45:41,790 --> 00:45:44,609 on, I. Being excellent in what you do. 988 00:45:44,670 --> 00:45:46,589 You know, seeing you on set when you're coming in. 989 00:45:46,589 --> 00:45:50,430 You're not, um, trying to figure out your lines like the day of, or at 990 00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:51,480 least it doesn't appear that way. 991 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,890 If you are, you're excellent at it. 992 00:45:53,105 --> 00:45:54,545 Uh, but you know, excellent 993 00:45:54,545 --> 00:45:55,745 at acting like 994 00:45:55,745 --> 00:45:58,920 you can see the work has been put in, in that sense. 995 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,629 And I know in my heart of hearts, like when you go into to work, when you go 996 00:46:03,629 --> 00:46:09,120 into, uh, the Disney world, when you go into sets to do, uh, motion capture, 997 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,279 you carry that same excellence that. 998 00:46:11,625 --> 00:46:13,515 Just, I'm here to serve. 999 00:46:13,515 --> 00:46:18,675 I'm here to help, but I am also gonna work my tail off to make sure, you know, 1000 00:46:18,675 --> 00:46:23,085 I, I produce something great and I, I, I bring something great to the table. 1001 00:46:23,745 --> 00:46:25,125 I have a follow up question to that. 1002 00:46:25,125 --> 00:46:30,240 So what I wanna know, Chris, is I. My hope with our show right, is for this 1003 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:35,370 to not just so inspirational to, to the general, but also very specifically to 1004 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,470 parents, educators, caregivers, um, who have children in their lives like Lee. 1005 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:45,060 And I don't have kids, but I teach kids every week and that's, that's my life. 1006 00:46:45,089 --> 00:46:46,950 I'm surrounded by kids and I love it. 1007 00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:51,990 It's, it's what I love to do and I, I want to be that educator that 1008 00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:54,205 really empowers kids and awesome. 1009 00:46:54,305 --> 00:46:55,830 And get to really, um. 1010 00:46:56,535 --> 00:46:58,425 Really help them work on their mindset. 1011 00:46:59,055 --> 00:47:03,045 So what I want to know is where you are now in life, and of 1012 00:47:03,045 --> 00:47:06,195 course, you know, there's so much more that's in store, right? 1013 00:47:06,345 --> 00:47:06,435 Mm-hmm. 1014 00:47:06,675 --> 00:47:10,575 But where you are in all of your life experiences, if you look back, 1015 00:47:11,295 --> 00:47:18,315 is there a mindset shift or a belief system that you feel, man, if I 1016 00:47:18,345 --> 00:47:23,355 only learn this as a child, if, if someone taught this to me as a child. 1017 00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:28,380 I would have maybe, you know, again, it's all in hindsight, right? 1018 00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:28,440 Yeah. 1019 00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:33,390 But if only I taught, I, I learned this as a child, would I have so much more, 1020 00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:36,450 um, tools in my toolbox as an adult? 1021 00:47:36,485 --> 00:47:36,765 Yeah. 1022 00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:42,990 It's the same thing today as it would've been then 1023 00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:52,290 if I would've known my worth as a human being. 1024 00:47:53,955 --> 00:47:55,845 And what that means. 1025 00:47:58,815 --> 00:48:04,605 It has nothing to do with the tallest, the shortest, the lightest, the darkest. 1026 00:48:05,565 --> 00:48:13,275 We will deal with those things in life, but to know our worth, what worth means, 1027 00:48:13,275 --> 00:48:19,365 what value means, and how we were born with everything we need to be whatever 1028 00:48:19,365 --> 00:48:23,085 it is that we want to be or to attain whatever it is we want to attain. 1029 00:48:24,255 --> 00:48:25,455 It's a game changer. 1030 00:48:26,325 --> 00:48:33,165 So whether it's me at seven or whether it's me now being able to say, okay, 1031 00:48:33,195 --> 00:48:34,665 there's something I want outta life. 1032 00:48:34,725 --> 00:48:39,885 Even if it's just to wake up in the morning and have peace, there's something 1033 00:48:39,885 --> 00:48:42,315 I want in life and I'm not getting it. 1034 00:48:42,315 --> 00:48:49,215 Let me spend time figuring out why that is. 1035 00:48:49,590 --> 00:48:52,980 Because that comes from inside joy and peace comes from inside. 1036 00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:53,700 Mm-hmm. 1037 00:48:54,965 --> 00:49:00,900 So as a child and with my boys and any child that may volunteer with a 1038 00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:06,330 be around or whatever, my hope is to sow into them seeds of, of greatness. 1039 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:07,050 Right. 1040 00:49:07,050 --> 00:49:09,930 We're not even sow into them seeds of greatness, but to, you know, bring 1041 00:49:09,930 --> 00:49:16,140 to light and help fertilize the seeds of greatness that are within them. 1042 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:16,980 Hmm. 1043 00:49:18,105 --> 00:49:19,905 So we can continue to do that. 1044 00:49:19,905 --> 00:49:21,495 Continue to show young people. 1045 00:49:22,785 --> 00:49:24,585 That's what life is about. 1046 00:49:25,125 --> 00:49:29,115 For them to be able to really harness and, and, and grapple with and get to know 1047 00:49:29,115 --> 00:49:35,024 how, how beautiful they are on the inside, how capable they are, what dedication 1048 00:49:35,024 --> 00:49:39,915 means, uh, what hard work means and respect to whatever it is they want to do. 1049 00:49:40,214 --> 00:49:43,185 The hard work of just waking up in the morning, sometimes that will 1050 00:49:43,185 --> 00:49:46,245 be the game changer, and that's the thing that's shifted me. 1051 00:49:46,665 --> 00:49:49,995 Um, and me as a man of faith, you know, I have the blessed. 1052 00:49:50,465 --> 00:49:54,605 Joy, even though it's not easy to fall back on the fact that I feel like 1053 00:49:54,605 --> 00:49:56,255 God has created me to be who I am. 1054 00:49:56,675 --> 00:49:56,765 Mm-hmm. 1055 00:49:56,765 --> 00:50:00,425 So therefore, I always have reason to, to have joy. 1056 00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:03,935 Um, even though I may not feel it, I have to continue, like I just said, do 1057 00:50:03,935 --> 00:50:06,575 what I need to do to focus in on that. 1058 00:50:06,905 --> 00:50:09,035 But yeah, I tell those beautiful babies, man, that you, you're 1059 00:50:09,035 --> 00:50:11,795 here, you're alive, you're well, you're doing it and you're amazing. 1060 00:50:11,795 --> 00:50:15,215 And that it takes time, it takes dedication to. 1061 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:16,590 Fertilize. 1062 00:50:16,590 --> 00:50:19,290 You know, you can't just throw one piece of fertilizer and then leave it alone. 1063 00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:21,240 You gotta cut, you gotta prune, you gotta stay with, you 1064 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:22,500 gotta wash, you gotta water. 1065 00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:24,510 Okay, this one likes this water uhoh. 1066 00:50:24,510 --> 00:50:25,770 This one's too much for this water. 1067 00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:26,130 Uhoh. 1068 00:50:26,130 --> 00:50:26,880 This one's going die. 1069 00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:27,210 Whoa. 1070 00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:27,570 Wait a minute. 1071 00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:34,410 You know, onto that TC uh, that's been is the thing and, and I, 1072 00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:35,760 the thing that I wish I had 1073 00:50:36,270 --> 00:50:36,660 Yeah. 1074 00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:37,290 When I was younger. 1075 00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:37,530 Yeah. 1076 00:50:38,295 --> 00:50:40,665 I was just really encouraged by that, Chris. 1077 00:50:40,695 --> 00:50:44,385 Um, I've been teaching for 15 years over different disciplines, so I've 1078 00:50:44,385 --> 00:50:49,125 been always around kids teaching kids, and what I've realized is that 1079 00:50:49,455 --> 00:50:56,715 the main thing that sets apart one child from the others is really their 1080 00:50:56,745 --> 00:50:58,575 mindset and who they believe they are. 1081 00:50:59,295 --> 00:50:59,835 That's it. 1082 00:51:00,255 --> 00:51:00,590 That's it. 1083 00:51:00,595 --> 00:51:03,375 It doesn't matter what discipline I teach, whether I'm teaching dance or 1084 00:51:03,375 --> 00:51:05,655 aerial or piano or any other thing, right? 1085 00:51:05,655 --> 00:51:10,275 Like the thing that sets apart one child and in their ability to succeed 1086 00:51:10,575 --> 00:51:16,065 is literally in their mindset and what they believe about themselves. 1087 00:51:16,605 --> 00:51:18,945 And so you saying that, like just going back to. 1088 00:51:20,339 --> 00:51:23,730 The thing that we really need to teach our kids is their worth. 1089 00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:28,080 It's, and, and a lot of that starts with the things that are going 1090 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,850 on between their ears, right? 1091 00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:33,480 Because our minds, our mind is a playground, right? 1092 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,839 Like it's a playground for, for the good and. 1093 00:51:37,365 --> 00:51:37,845 The bad. 1094 00:51:38,475 --> 00:51:38,535 Yeah. 1095 00:51:38,775 --> 00:51:41,205 And it depends on what we are focusing on. 1096 00:51:41,205 --> 00:51:43,275 It depends on what we're listening at, right. 1097 00:51:43,275 --> 00:51:47,235 And, and the voices that we actually allow into our, our system. 1098 00:51:47,235 --> 00:51:49,965 And then that affects the way we approach life. 1099 00:51:49,965 --> 00:51:54,315 And so it's just encouraging because me seeing that, uh, now after 15 1100 00:51:54,315 --> 00:51:58,035 years of teaching, that's why I, I got certified for this program 1101 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,100 is called Adventurous in Wisdom. 1102 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,920 And what that is, is it literally teaches kids 27 life skills broken 1103 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,630 down into these like five modules. 1104 00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:10,860 And the very first one is simply teaching the kids the scientific, 1105 00:52:11,340 --> 00:52:15,930 the brain science about how our minds work, the difference between conscious 1106 00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:17,520 and subconscious, all these things. 1107 00:52:17,580 --> 00:52:20,340 And then it goes down deeper and deeper and deeper. 1108 00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:23,970 It teaches kids the power of responsibility, integrity, um, respecting 1109 00:52:23,970 --> 00:52:26,430 their self, like who they are as a person. 1110 00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:26,940 Like actually. 1111 00:52:27,180 --> 00:52:31,529 Seeing their worth and teaching them how to self-talk and, you 1112 00:52:31,529 --> 00:52:32,819 know, giving them these tools. 1113 00:52:32,819 --> 00:52:37,890 So I'm just, I, I, I just love what you shared because it gives me encouragement 1114 00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:42,720 to know that the decisions that I've been making as far as like, you know, being 1115 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,270 an educator is, is really important. 1116 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:46,680 So thank you for sharing that. 1117 00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:49,799 Thank you and I do briefly wanna commend you for that. 1118 00:52:49,799 --> 00:52:52,950 And uh, also to, again, coming from a single parent household, 1119 00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:55,680 my mom was amazing and she did throw those things into me. 1120 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,009 And large part of the reason I am who I am today is solely because of her. 1121 00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:03,720 Uh, but also she spent a fair amount of time doing things that she would 1122 00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:07,830 not have had to do, being away from the home or whatever, if, uh, the 1123 00:53:07,830 --> 00:53:09,060 situation would've been different. 1124 00:53:09,149 --> 00:53:12,210 So thank you for what you're doing, because even if my mom and dad 1125 00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:15,330 or whoever would have been there together, it still takes a village. 1126 00:53:15,375 --> 00:53:19,515 It still takes that dance teacher, that piano teacher, that teacher at school to 1127 00:53:19,515 --> 00:53:21,975 affirm and solidify and further fertilize. 1128 00:53:21,975 --> 00:53:24,165 I guess I'll just keep saying, 'cause I have two plants outside. 1129 00:53:24,165 --> 00:53:24,885 It's my new thing. 1130 00:53:24,915 --> 00:53:25,125 What? 1131 00:53:25,125 --> 00:53:25,485 What? 1132 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,460 One piano. 1133 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:27,660 One 14. 1134 00:53:27,975 --> 00:53:28,665 I'm very proud. 1135 00:53:28,725 --> 00:53:28,935 Okay. 1136 00:53:28,935 --> 00:53:29,865 You're a plant dad. 1137 00:53:29,865 --> 00:53:30,315 What? 1138 00:53:30,315 --> 00:53:31,155 Yeah, I know. 1139 00:53:31,155 --> 00:53:33,675 Well, the first time, uh, but anyway, you get what I'm saying. 1140 00:53:33,675 --> 00:53:34,605 It does take that village. 1141 00:53:34,605 --> 00:53:35,235 So thank you. 1142 00:53:35,745 --> 00:53:36,464 Great job. 1143 00:53:37,005 --> 00:53:37,485 Kudos. 1144 00:53:37,485 --> 00:53:38,055 Keep it up. 1145 00:53:38,235 --> 00:53:38,805 Amazing. 1146 00:53:38,805 --> 00:53:39,134 Thank you. 1147 00:53:39,375 --> 00:53:44,895 Um, my final question for you, my great esteemed amazing friend 1148 00:53:44,924 --> 00:53:52,665 Christopher Ellen, if you were to define a wildly wealthy life Oh yeah. 1149 00:53:52,755 --> 00:53:55,455 For our viewers, how would you do that 1150 00:53:56,505 --> 00:53:57,795 Wildly wealthy life? 1151 00:53:59,085 --> 00:54:00,640 I would have to stop and think. 1152 00:54:02,069 --> 00:54:04,620 Possibly not about the first thing that comes to mind when I 1153 00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:06,540 think about wealth or success. 1154 00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:12,690 I possibly would have to take a moment and think a little bit deeper into that. 1155 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,470 I've heard a lot of conversations with people who have had all 1156 00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:18,150 of the things in the world. 1157 00:54:18,569 --> 00:54:18,810 Hmm. 1158 00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:24,120 But when time comes and they realize uhoh, none of those things can save me. 1159 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:28,230 Oftentimes, not a lot of time, but oftentimes I've heard people say things 1160 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:30,600 like, wanna spend more time with family? 1161 00:54:31,455 --> 00:54:34,065 Maybe I would've just ostracized myself from so and so. 1162 00:54:34,065 --> 00:54:36,405 I would've maybe worked on this relationship with whoever, 1163 00:54:36,405 --> 00:54:37,545 whoever, whoever, right? 1164 00:54:37,545 --> 00:54:43,365 So even though those shiny things, nothing wrong with the things, but when the things 1165 00:54:43,365 --> 00:54:49,755 take place of, you know, important things that become an issue wildly wealthy life 1166 00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:54,735 for me and whatever it is for you or whoever else, but you know, we'll get it. 1167 00:54:55,935 --> 00:54:57,825 Is my family happy? 1168 00:54:58,845 --> 00:54:59,175 Hmm. 1169 00:54:59,265 --> 00:55:02,955 Am I doing what I need to do to make sure they have, they're 1170 00:55:02,955 --> 00:55:04,815 set up for success to be happy. 1171 00:55:05,505 --> 00:55:05,595 Mm-hmm. 1172 00:55:05,595 --> 00:55:10,965 To feel safe, to feel secure, to know that no matter how far they go, 'cause 1173 00:55:10,965 --> 00:55:15,825 I pray they go as far as the Lord will take them, that they always have a place 1174 00:55:15,825 --> 00:55:21,195 to come back to call home despite, or these walls are structured at the time 1175 00:55:21,645 --> 00:55:27,585 that they can always come back to these people who love them, who taught them. 1176 00:55:28,635 --> 00:55:35,625 Their value, their worth helps to be wild and wealthy all at the same time. 1177 00:55:36,225 --> 00:55:39,945 Um, to me that that's what it, that that's what it means. 1178 00:55:39,975 --> 00:55:41,505 Legacy, you know, that's what it means. 1179 00:55:41,505 --> 00:55:42,345 That's what's important. 1180 00:55:42,405 --> 00:55:46,095 As, as much as I want to go and attain and get and keep acting and 1181 00:55:46,095 --> 00:55:49,335 working and doing the thing to get the thing to help the family, yay. 1182 00:55:49,335 --> 00:55:54,165 To get more stuff and all that, which is good in that, it's really to know that. 1183 00:55:54,555 --> 00:55:56,115 Listen, I have a house here. 1184 00:55:56,235 --> 00:55:57,255 I don't need a bigger one. 1185 00:55:57,615 --> 00:55:58,365 I have a car. 1186 00:55:58,755 --> 00:55:59,955 I don't need a faster one. 1187 00:56:00,404 --> 00:56:01,670 My kids don't care about that. 1188 00:56:01,930 --> 00:56:02,350 Mm-hmm. 1189 00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:04,069 My wife doesn't care about that. 1190 00:56:04,245 --> 00:56:08,174 Now, she may wanna do shiny Porsche, but she knows it's the one that we have. 1191 00:56:08,535 --> 00:56:13,125 Uh, the car that we have is just fine, but for all of us to be content 1192 00:56:13,125 --> 00:56:17,745 with where we are, understand our value as people as we just shared, 1193 00:56:17,745 --> 00:56:19,725 especially our boys and my wife too. 1194 00:56:19,725 --> 00:56:20,355 Me too. 1195 00:56:20,775 --> 00:56:20,865 Mm-hmm. 1196 00:56:21,105 --> 00:56:23,805 Then listen, let's talk about it. 1197 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,660 For that to be true is wild. 1198 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,940 In today's society, especially with the youth, their number one issues 1199 00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:34,800 are not, man, we're feeling so good. 1200 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,670 We dunno what to do. 1201 00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:36,450 It's not that. 1202 00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:39,210 It's Oh, depression. 1203 00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:39,630 Mm-hmm. 1204 00:56:39,630 --> 00:56:41,820 Suicide effects of screen time. 1205 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:42,990 What's happening? 1206 00:56:43,740 --> 00:56:45,180 People getting tired of the dating apps. 1207 00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:48,060 So now it's gonna be a new thing that, you know, that's what's. 1208 00:56:48,435 --> 00:56:48,945 Real. 1209 00:56:49,185 --> 00:56:50,385 So what's wild? 1210 00:56:50,775 --> 00:56:52,995 It's not out to really care about any of that and understand, oh, 1211 00:56:53,025 --> 00:56:54,405 that's just what the world is. 1212 00:56:55,815 --> 00:56:55,875 Hmm. 1213 00:56:55,875 --> 00:56:59,265 At home and I know who I am and I can go out and affect change things versus 1214 00:56:59,265 --> 00:57:03,735 the world coming in and affecting and changing me and all the work and 1215 00:57:03,735 --> 00:57:07,035 Lee and Ka are doing with the kids at school and with the classes or whatever. 1216 00:57:07,095 --> 00:57:07,485 Right. 1217 00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:09,120 The end. 1218 00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:09,900 Thank you. 1219 00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:10,710 And scene. 1220 00:57:12,330 --> 00:57:12,870 Perfect. 1221 00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:14,100 Thank you Chris. 1222 00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:21,480 With the world out there, uh, where can people check in and do, are any like 1223 00:57:21,570 --> 00:57:26,040 big gigs, any fun things coming up on the horizon that we can find you people? 1224 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,190 Follow me on social media at Team Chris Allen, uh, 1225 00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:30,690 Instagram and Twitter, you them. 1226 00:57:31,305 --> 00:57:34,515 Less active on Twitter, uh, and all that jazz. 1227 00:57:34,815 --> 00:57:37,905 I don't know when it airs, but you can look at NCIS origin. 1228 00:57:37,965 --> 00:57:39,105 It's episode 1 0 9. 1229 00:57:39,105 --> 00:57:39,195 Mm-hmm. 1230 00:57:40,395 --> 00:57:42,825 So you can probably see that on IMDB, like the schedule. 1231 00:57:43,125 --> 00:57:49,605 And then I'm waiting to hear back on this potential contract role, like lead 1232 00:57:49,875 --> 00:57:52,095 role for, uh, young and the Restless. 1233 00:57:52,185 --> 00:57:53,655 I've auditioned for them also. 1234 00:57:54,405 --> 00:57:56,895 Mm. Many times I've been on the show once or twice. 1235 00:57:56,895 --> 00:57:57,435 Mm-hmm. 1236 00:57:58,470 --> 00:58:04,860 But this time, uh, casting really, uh, likes me for this one particular role. 1237 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:07,800 So casting producers typically need to agree. 1238 00:58:07,845 --> 00:58:08,984 Mm-hmm. 1239 00:58:09,555 --> 00:58:10,575 And then we'll see what happens. 1240 00:58:10,575 --> 00:58:15,375 So hopefully you'll, you'll catch me there in a, in a, in a major capacity, but if 1241 00:58:15,375 --> 00:58:18,435 not, we'll see what God, what God has, and we'll all figure it out together. 1242 00:58:18,705 --> 00:58:19,154 That's right. 1243 00:58:20,325 --> 00:58:20,444 Awesome. 1244 00:58:20,625 --> 00:58:23,265 Well, Chris, thank you so much for your time. 1245 00:58:23,265 --> 00:58:24,705 This has been so lovely. 1246 00:58:24,915 --> 00:58:25,725 This has been great. 1247 00:58:25,814 --> 00:58:26,535 I miss y'all. 1248 00:58:26,625 --> 00:58:27,250 It's so good to see you. 1249 00:58:27,609 --> 00:58:27,810 I know. 1250 00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:28,609 So good to see you. 1251 00:58:28,904 --> 00:58:30,254 Come, uh, visit you soon. 1252 00:58:30,765 --> 00:58:31,125 Yeah. 1253 00:58:31,605 --> 00:58:32,415 Yeah, it's been awesome. 1254 00:58:32,475 --> 00:58:32,625 Yeah. 1255 00:58:32,625 --> 00:58:33,285 All right, good. 1256 00:58:33,285 --> 00:58:34,095 I'll give you back your 1257 00:58:34,095 --> 00:58:34,424 day. 1258 00:58:34,515 --> 00:58:34,605 Good. 1259 00:58:34,605 --> 00:58:36,404 And thank you for having this conversation with me. 1260 00:58:36,404 --> 00:58:37,154 I really appreciate it. 1261 00:58:37,154 --> 00:58:37,845 You two are the best. 1262 00:58:38,505 --> 00:58:38,890 Thank you. 1263 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:39,370 Thanks. 1264 00:58:39,615 --> 00:58:40,935 You got some nuggets. 1265 00:58:41,145 --> 00:58:41,445 Love you. 1266 00:58:41,445 --> 00:58:41,505 Bye 1267 00:58:42,615 --> 00:58:43,125 bye. 1268 00:58:45,015 --> 00:58:48,585 Alright, friends, that's a wrap on today's episode of Wildly Wealthy Life. 1269 00:58:48,915 --> 00:58:51,105 We hope you're feeling fired up and ready to take on the 1270 00:58:51,105 --> 00:58:52,365 world with your brilliant mind. 1271 00:58:52,365 --> 00:58:53,085 And Braveheart. 1272 00:58:53,384 --> 00:58:56,535 If you love this episode, make sure you hit that subscribe button on YouTube 1273 00:58:56,535 --> 00:58:58,095 or your favorite podcast platform. 1274 00:58:58,095 --> 00:58:59,835 It helps us keep bringing you the good stuff. 1275 00:59:00,115 --> 00:59:02,605 And hey, while you're at it, drop us a rating or review. 1276 00:59:02,665 --> 00:59:03,445 It takes like, what? 1277 00:59:03,685 --> 00:59:06,895 30 seconds and it makes a huge difference for us. 1278 00:59:07,135 --> 00:59:09,775 Also, if you know someone who could use a little guidance on growth, 1279 00:59:09,775 --> 00:59:12,655 mindset, leadership and creativity, share this episode with them. 1280 00:59:13,015 --> 00:59:15,595 Sometimes that one conversation can spark up a whole new direction. 1281 00:59:15,925 --> 00:59:17,245 Thanks for hanging out with us today. 1282 00:59:17,305 --> 00:59:20,665 Go out there live wildly, be wealthy in all the ways that matter to you, 1283 00:59:20,665 --> 00:59:22,135 and we'll catch you on the next one.