Hi, I'm Lisa.

And I'm Emily.

And together we make the conscious collaboration podcast 200th episode.

I guess that's not really an anniversary, but happy 200th episode.

That's pretty.

That's pretty crazy.

Yeah, I mean it's huge.

It's.

As we can see in the numbers, it just shows that this persistence and these like small little check ins that we do are worth everything in driving the momentum.

Yeah, it's been a fun 200 episodes.

Yeah, I agree.

Well, the universe has blessed me with a what I feel like is a decent topic idea today for our 200th episode.

So, you know, I hope that y' all feel find as as much value in this conversation as I have in just thinking about the idea and how to share the idea.

So where this idea comes from is from the work that I've been doing in my.

It's still relatively new.

I've.

I've been in this role since June of, of last year.

Longer though.

Yeah, I know, right?

Longer and shorter all at the same time.

But.

So I've been working as an RN and as a.

Combining my nutrition and fitness coaching skills with, with my RN skills and working

with

people who are electing to take GLP1 therapy for weight loss.

And you know, before I get into what the actual topic is, I'll just kind of give that a brief little Cliff Notes description in case anybody out there is not familiar with what a GLP1 is.

So GLP1 glucagon, like peptide receptor agonist is the long and fancy name, but these are the peptides such as brand names, Ozempic, wegovy, Zepbound, Mounjaro that are becoming more and more prevalent.

They've been on the scene for a while, for decades actually, for use in diabetes, type 2 diabetes.

And you know, because their effectiveness in weight loss is so profound, they've now become, you know, probably.

I'm not sure what the exact stats are as of today, but you know, they're highly in use.

We'll just put it that way.

Like there is a significant portion of

the adult population in conversation every day.

Anytime I touch social media and all the mom groups and all the business groups even, I mean, totally unrelated topics.

But people are always like, tell me, you know, what's the cheapest way to get a GLP1?

What's the fastest way?

I don't even think anyone, like as you're describing it, I don't think anyone actually really knows what it is besides their perception of it being a quick fix.

Yeah, well, and I mean, there, there's a lot that we don't know about them yet.

Peptides are natural.

They're, they're made in the body.

Right?

We, we actually make our own GLP1 under the, the right circumstances.

And I mean, the, the most basic action on weight loss specifically, there's the whole other, you know, category of things that, that we think that they're probably good for as well in different type of dosings.

But that's, that's a whole other conversation.

In the, in the context of weight loss, how they work is they basically force your body to go on a crash diet.

Okay.

They slow down the movement and absorption of food through the GI tract, creating a feeling of fullness.

And in many cases, that feeling of fullness progresses into, you know, GI symptoms.

Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, all the fun stuff there.

So really, you know, people have food aversions essentially, and they just start eating way, way less.

And that is how they work for weight loss.

Do they have other effects on hormones and some other things?

Probably, it appears that way.

But this, there's nothing fancy to it.

This is how they're working for weight loss.

They make people eat less.

Okay, so, but, and they are neither inherently good or bad.

Right?

What I can say from working with hundreds of people a day who are taking these medications and coaching them through it and hearing their feedback.

With you guys, you said that amount, right?

It's just with you guys or is that like nationwide or worldwide?

Do you suspect?

I have, I personally have hundreds of patients.

You have hundreds of patients?

I personally have hundreds of patients that I work with.

That's why I never get to talk to you outside of the podcast.

Yeah, it's a very, very high volume situation.

And so in, in, you know, this is, this is the topic idea is really not to discuss the, you know, positives or negatives of GLP1 or whether or not, you know, one agrees with them or not.

I think just like any medical treatment.

Right.

What is the context?

Who are we talking about and what is the support that they're getting around this medication?

Are we talking about somebody who would like to lose £5 for vanity case and, you know, for bikini season?

Maybe this isn't the best, you know, the best route for you.

Are we talking about somebody who is morbidly obese and really is struggling to, you know, harness some semblance of health and things are just spiraling?

This is probably a person that, you know, is, is appropriate for, for the use and of course you know, it is, it's case by case and, and, and everything in between.

So with that said, even in the right person, I mean, there's still a lot of potential for, potential drawbacks with taking these medications if, if they are not done in the correct fashion.

And I'm creeping closer and closer here to the actual point, the actual topic, but you know, basically if, if you are just prescribed one of these medications without any, you know, support, any kind of coaching, then you're, you're not likely to change your actual foundational habits, which got you to this place in the first place.

And this is exactly why, in the same way that we would see this with like a crash dieting scenario or a yo yo dieting scenario, because sustainability was not considered as soon as these people go off the medication for one reason or another.

Because, you know, it's, it's often not by choice.

Like the whole insurance, you know, and coverage universe of these is very volatile.

And I see this again and again where people will lose their coverage literally overnight.

So, so, you know, when you see people go off these things and they haven't, they haven't changed their habits, then they will gain the weight right back.

And you know, another danger of when you're losing weight that quickly and you're not paying attention to, you know, the things that are really important to be coached upon in this process, you're at a huge risk for losing muscle mass.

And I could do a whole episode about why that is not beneficial for anyone and, and it puts you metabolically in a much worse place once you no longer have this medication on board.

So when you do gain the weight back, anything that you lost in muscle mass is not going to come back in muscle.

Yeah, it's gonna come back in body fat.

And you know, your, your metabolism by that point will be very adapted and it's just gonna make things harder.

So yeah, the point of this that is obviously applicable to this situation with GLP1s, I believe is also just a great life lesson in general and really applicable to like so many aspects of life and health and well being, which, which will, will touch upon.

And that is that there is no magic bullet.

There is no magic bullet in life.

We take these kind of, we can, we as humans can have this tendency.

I mean, we do naturally have a desire, an innate desire for efficiency.

Right.

Like Dave Asprey says, we're like, he calls us like lazy meat suits or something.

And not that that's a moral, you know, morally bad thing.

Like it makes sense just from an evolutionary perspective to want to do things more efficiently.

But I mean really what I'm getting at is if you use, you can bring in the GLP1, especially if you're really a person who is struggling and needs it and has a lot of weight to lose.

But that does not in any way detract from the fact that you still have to change the habits, you still have to build the foundation, you still have to do all the things if you are a person who wants to keep the results that you've created and really have them be better results.

Because if you're, you know, if you're working on muscle at the same time as you're using this kind of leg up, this kind of booster to help you shed some of the extra body fat, you're, you're going to be a lot happier with, with the end result if you're, if you're paying attention to those things.

So that's, that's really what I'm getting at here is that you know, the GLP one is this larger metaphor for life that no matter how effective something is some treatment or supplement or you know, we'll get into the other kind of non health related things, but matter how effective something is, you still have to have the foundation, the fundamentals in place.

Right.

Like you're not going to start, you can say this as a designer, you're not going to start putting your energy into picking out all the, you know, fixtures and the doorknobs and the in the window treatments before you've laid the foundation for this house.

That doesn't make sense.

So this, this really applies to so much in our life and I think in such a way that we can come up with some, you know, just

basic

self examination type questions to just see if we're, we're on the right path.

Yeah, I mean especially this time of year, the earlier part of the year, everyone's in that like fix me mode or fix my life mode and researching like how can I do it faster with as much efficiency as possible so that I can keep this crazy lifestyle sustained.

That's all scattered and all over the place, especially in the western world, the way that we operate.

I was, I was at my kids flag football game on Saturday morning and just looking around at everyone who was showing up to flag football and you know, everyone's multitasking and they've got like the game and everything and what kind of snacks are they bringing or you know, everyone's got their Starbucks and McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts and you know, it's, it's just this for us.

I mean, I think in America and I know we have listeners from all over the world, but in my experience we're looking for that.

Like you're saying that quick fix, the magic button to make things easier for us.

We don't.

Americans.

I was listening to.

You listen to Diary of, of a CEO, right?

Yeah.

I don't know if you saw this or I think it was from, you know, whenever he has the CIA expert on.

Is it the guy with the long hair?

I think so, yeah.

I mean I was listening to it, but he was talking about how he profiles Americans in other countries.

And you know, the way that you can easily spot an American is by the American lean.

Because we can't even be bothered.

Laleen.

Americans have.

And no other nation in the world has this where we cannot just simply hold ourselves up in waiting in line or watching, you know, a street show or any of this.

We have to lean to one side or on something or on someone else or there's no, like, it's almost like we're not even going to try.

What can I lean on?

So that points to a lot of things like, you know, poor posture, making and not being in alignment and not using or having an awareness of things to hold us upright.

So.

And as you know, other countries are squatting and holding more proper balance and posture.

So I mean, I don't think this is an Americanized isolated concern because I, I believe this GLP1 and this quick fix and magic bullet seeking is a worldwide thing at this point because of all the distractions that we have.

Yeah.

It's just part of that whole rat race to keep up with everything.

Yeah.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with seeking efficiency.

Right.

Like, right.

We all live full and busy lives and I think that's okay.

I mean look at what we're doing with AI and how.

But also like AI it, it then requires another level of scrutiny as to like, okay, am I leveraging the efficiency that I can get with this process or am I just being lazy?

And we're going the important pieces of this because with GLP1s, with, with AI with yeah.

Promotions or raises at work that bring in more money, like, you know, okay, we're getting this leg up.

Right.

We're getting a boost, but what are we doing with it?

Are we relying on that boost to then fix it, quote unquote, or are we really utilizing that boost as a boost as a supplement?

Right.

So that it Is in effect easier than to, to really build or solidify the, the foundations that are going to carry you through over the long term.

Yeah, I mean I think it, you know, even in regards to like the American lean, I think it just requires us as humans in our meat suits to be an active participant in whatever it is that we're doing.

Yeah.

And you know, not complicated and not looks like I'm going to let this drug or supplement or system do all the work for me.

Like I, yeah, I can do a lot for you and we can send our agents and also hallucinate.

Right.

So

checking in with your agents, they could be running amok and giving your information to everybody, you know, also.

So I mean there is like we have to be managers are or you know, have that accountability and participation in our, in our journey.

It's not just handing it over so we can be, you know, more lackadaisical in our meat suits.

Yeah.

I think people look at, you know, different health and wellness supplements this way.

You know, I see this all the time when we start talking with people about protein, for example, you know, a lot of times the first thing they start reaching for is protein supplements, powders and treats and bars and you know, protein infused xyz.

And it's like, okay, let's, let's rewind a little bit.

Like is it the worst thing in the world to include some of this stuff?

Especially if that's what helps you, you know, get to your ultimate protein target?

No, it's not.

But like we need to focus on real food here and how do we get, you know, that good quality protein in our life, not just like, how do I do this in a, in a treat kind of way.

And then we're, we're just kind of missing the forest for the trees.

You and I were talking about to take a completely non health and wellness example.

You and I were talking about like getting a promotion or winning the lottery and you know, or whatever, you know, an inheritance or whatever it is where you get a big financial boost.

But if you haven't created healthy financial habits, a healthy financial foundation, it doesn't matter how much more money you get, your habits are still the same.

So you're still, you know, if you're not in a good place financially with $50,000, you're not going to be in a good place financially with a hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Right.

Yeah.

Creating, creating those systems and also just taking that power back to your self so that your, ideally, if we're creating more efficiencies in our life.

Yes, it's going to free us up to do things that are more endurable and enjoyable.

But we don't want to outsource our, you know, our gosh, our discernment.

We don't want to outsource our discernment.

And it is our power.

It is.

It's always coming back to that personal power.

And if you don't have the foundation and, you know, we talked a little bit about how this could apply directly to your, you know, profession as well, and how you could, you know, help somebody with all the fun treatments in the world.

But if they're not addressing within whatever the issue is, then none of the environmental, you know, modifications are gonna really stick, so to speak.

Yeah, I mean, it's.

It applies to so many things, even to mentorship or coaching.

When you bring someone into, you know, leverage their systems into how you're living your life, it might work for them, but it's probably because they're active participants.

They've created it for themselves.

They know it inside it out.

And you're outsourcing their guidance and help.

And if you're not personalizing it for yourself or internalizing in a way or screening and filtering out the things that aren't relevant, yeah, you could put a big investment into mentorship and coaching and that type of thing, but those systems are not necessarily transferable to you and they're not going to stay with you long term and you might not feel the same benefits.

So I think it's.

This is like a really good discussion for our 200th episode because we've been talking about this for years and seeing it manifest in so many different ways.

We've been talking about the importance of foundation first because we know towers crumble and we've been talking about the importance of scalability and sustainability and making sure that we are in our core as holistically aligned and, you know, just core strong strength, whether it be in our bodies or our values and our missions, but having that inner strength there.

I've used the word like jellyfish a lot too.

Like we're not just like going around absorbing blah, blah and blobbing ourselves and morphing around the world.

That focus on aligning our mind and our bodies and businesses, whatever it is that we're doing, our convictions in our life, having that real strong Taji pole or spine or core, it translates into all areas of our holistic health and wellness.

All these things are integrated.

Like a lot of times people will, this time of year especially call me and say, what can I do to attract the most abundance in this year?

And they want me just to address their abundance corner, for example, or that abundance gua of their home or their space, their workplace, whatever it may be.

Yes, I may find a way to plug an energetic leak or there may even be like a physical leak there or something that's flock or causing stagnant energy.

But along the way, if we're putting blinders on to things like how's the energy even getting there?

It's like is it, is there a pathway that's blocked?

Are there places within other gauze that need to be also supported such as career and life journey, holistic health and wellness?

Or maybe it's your self knowledge and wisdom or opposite of abundance is your health of people and you know, your collaborators.

So if there's energetic leaks there, imbalances or just zero intention, physical clutter, mental clutter, visual clutter, all of these things.

If I'm just coming in to give the most powerful feng shui cure and the most beautiful activation or interior design elements to make it the most beautiful abundance quarter ever, it doesn't matter.

There may be like short term psychological benefits, there may be some great opportunities or windfalls.

But to your point, overlooking these other areas that, that touch this space, it won't be felt as long and it won't be as internalized or sustained and it'll probably be forgotten quite soon.

I mean each individual piece of alignment is only one piece of the puzzle.

And one piece of the puzzle in isolation, no matter how perfect it is, is, is, you know, that luster is only going to last so long if the other puzzle pieces are missing or broken or you know, what, whatever.

Yeah, it's like, you know, you were talking about the translation into trying to design a home without the construction being fully done.

But a lot of times or we hear the, the, you know, phrase like especially in this area where people are flipping lots of houses in that time type of thing.

Oh, they're just putting a lipstick on a pig.

Well like there, there are those cases where people are creating beautiful looking bathrooms on top of rotted floors or with the wrong materials or they're not prepped or it just looks like even an

Air Venture 2024 around here.

Yeah, I mean that's.

Yeah, it's happening right like now just where people getting their hurricane funding released now to finally get the work done.

But and it's unfortunate because sometimes the society we live in puts us on like a time crunch.

Like I'm working on a lot of hurricane restoration projects right now where a homeowner brings me in, because the way that society is set up and the way the system is set up with the funds being released is you are only given after many, many years or, you know, it's been two years now, years or months waiting for funding.

You're suddenly given two or three days to be able to supply all of your direction, materials, sourcing, fill out this paperwork for the system.

But that puts you in a situation where you're having to fill out paperwork and a form based on.

To meet the needs of the form and not to meet the needs of the space.

And I think the same is to be said for our bodies in some way too.

As containers.

Yeah.

100%.

Yeah.

I think that's a great.

Like you said, looking at the body and the home as containers of gosh, you know, all of the senses and looking for ways to look good on the outside short term or, you know, for appearance person purposes versus aligning that with inner purpose.

Well, and I'd even challenge that if we're, if we're just gonna go the vanity route.

Look at somebody who did a GLP one wrong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're gonna see more of a.

A melted candle.

Yeah, yeah.

And even, you know, on.

On the body, like maybe like what we would think of as like skinny fat.

Right.

Like the number on the scale went down a lot.

But did your composition really improve and versus somebody who really did it the right way who, you know, paid attention to muscle and protein and you know, getting their micronutrients from vegetables and really just changing their.

Their lifestyle habits, incorporating resistance training.

Look at that person.

And you know, you could say this.

Whether the GLP1 is in the picture or not, look at that person versus just a crash diet person who was only hyper focused on that number on the scale moving linearly down.

And you.

The appearance make is.

It makes a big difference.

Health.

Real health, Real metabolic health.

Looks good.

Mm.

Yeah.

You know, poor metabolic health or metabolic struggle.

That's not a real term, but that's kind of what I'm thinking of here because, you know, if you, if you go from morbidly obese.

Yeah.

To not, there's gonna be a period of time where your.

Your metabolic markers are.

Are better.

Is.

Is.

It's gonna be a time.

But then once you cross that, that bridge into sarcopenia, muscle loss and frailty, then we're.

We're.

We're in a different place.

And so.

Yeah, I think the point was just that even though you Think you're chasing something that's going to benefit your appearance?

If you're.

If you're coming from that magic bullet standpoint, it's.

You're gonna lose in that department, too.

Yeah.

I feel really sad when I see, you know, and certainly, like, celebrities are in the face of being photographed all the time in other stages, but I feel really sad for some celebrities that went the GLP1 route or something similar, and they were morbidly obese and now they're not, and they're exhibiting and now they're being put down.

Well, you looked better when you had more fat or, you know, it's like.

It's just like, you can't win.

So if you're not doing it for yourself, you can.

You just got to do the things.

Well,

what I was trying to say is you can't win for everyone else.

You have to do it for yourself.

Yeah.

So it's.

It's not like, you know, we're not in a position where right now, where people are scrutinizing us as.

As hard as a lot of people that I'm seeing in media.

But it's, you know, I think it's that you have to know that you're doing it for.

For yourself, for your health and being able to, like you said, create that.

Like, it's not.

It's not this handing it take care of this for me.

It's that I'm choosing to.

To live a more full, strong, you know, gosh, just more aware life so that I can have sustained vitality and live longer.

They're.

They're forecasting us to live 150 years or so soon that's going to be more normal to see that.

And how do we want our lives to be in that scenario?

Like, so some questions that we talked about that before we started recording are to think about, like, what are we actually trying to achieve by taking a medication or a supplement or enlisting a coach or working with feng shui?

What are we actually hoping to achieve or to solve in that, in that experience?

So, I mean, just.

Just reflecting.

Reflecting on that a little bit.

Like, what are we hoping, you know, thinking about?

Some of my clients that are looking for more money, fast money, and really they want more money so that they can feel more safe, secure, more free.

Feel like, you know, doing it to feel better about themselves, keeping up with the Joneses.

Which of those do you think is going to be more sustainable?

Yeah, yeah.

It's like my guy Sal from Mind Pump says, you can't hate yourself into being fit or be, you know, looking good or, you know, any.

Any of those objectives.

Quite.

Quite the opposite.

Yeah.

That's so, so important as a form of, you know, punishment or once I lose this weight or once I get to xyz, then I will be happy.

That's not how it works.

Exactly.

Either.

Or Feng shui or any of these other things that we've talked about that, you know, that perception of filling that void is.

Is not achieved by the supplement.

Any of this.

Any of the.

Yeah.

Any of the supplements or symptoms you can't bypass.

Taking a good look at how you got to where you are.

Yep.

Well, again, this has been another very therapeutic conversation.

Wow.

I mean, I'm certainly reflecting on a lot of this myself too, with where I'm envisioning heading myself and the intentionality of why implementing or creating anything needs to come from a place of autonomy and.

Yeah.

Intention and clarity

and really just trying to get to the root.

Yes.

Root is a good.

Root is a good word.

Understanding that a supplement or an external booster of any kind is just that.

It's just something to make the process that you need to do anyway a little bit more manageable.

Exactly.

Well, what do you say we take this inside of our post and private Facebook group.

Yes, let's do it.

All right.

For the 200 Facebook group.

And that.

That was a little cameo of my bomb guys.

I'm not under attack, but I couldn't do the hand symbol to.

To put myself on mute there.

But inside of our close and private Facebook group where we are inviting all change makers, thought leaders and people on the similar journey with us to join.

And right now we have a contest that is underway and in our recording next week, we will be announcing a winner.

We are encouraging anyone with inside of our group to bring your friends, like minded thinkers or anyone who may benefit from these conversations or something similar.

Whoever invites the most people to join our collective will be honored as a guest on one of our upcoming episodes.

So we hope to see you inside there and I'll put some.

Some of these topics and conversation points because I know we can learn a lot from our collective as well.

Word.

Word.

Okay, well, thanks for bringing the topic, Emily.

I like it.

I like.

I like your work.

I think it's important.

Thank you.

All right, well, we'll talk to you next time.

Talk to you in five.

Talk to you.

Bye.

Jeez.

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