Hannah

Well, hello and welcome to Binge Watch, the podcast where we take a look at the hottest new tv and film releases on streaming television platforms.

Hannah

I'm Hannah Fernando, the group editor of Woman and Woman and Home magazine.

Ian

And I'm Ian McEwan, writer on tv and Satellite Week, TV Times and what's on tv, magazines.

Ian

And today we're looking at the new releases that will be available on Friday the 18 October 2024, including Lenny James as a dapper London pensioner leading a double life in the new BBC drama Mister Loverman and David Tennant and Alex Hassell waging war in rivals, Gilly Cooper's racy tale of money, lust and power on Disney.

Hannah

And we'll also be checking out the australian version of british comedy the Office.

Hannah

Yes, you heard that right on prime Video and romantic drama.

Hannah

So long, Marianne.

Hannah

About singer songwriter Leonard Cohen and his muse on ITVX.

Hannah

But first, Ian, what is in the news?

Ian

Charlie Brooker's dystopian Netflix anthology series Black Mirror is set to return for a 7th series next year with an all star cast including Peter Capaldi and Paul Giamatti.

Ian

What else is in the news, Hannah?

Hannah

Well, this looks good because in prime video comedy, Jack in time for Christmas, which will air this December, Jack Whitehall will embark on an epic mission to get home for the festive season, with help, of course, from none other than Mister Christmas himself, Michael Buble and Rebel Wilson.

Ian

Absolutely shameless.

Ian

We've got a good selection this week, I would say, and we're going to start off on BBC One and BBC iPlayer with a new drama series which starts with a double bill.

Ian

It's called Mister Lover man.

Ian

And here's a clip.

Ian

You is a homosexual barrier.

Ian

I know homosexual.

Hannah

I am a Barry sexual.

Hannah

They think they know me.

Hannah

Father of Donna and Maxine, husband of Carmel.

Hannah

What happened to us, Barry?

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50 years living a double life.

Ian

You are a cheat, Barry.

Ian

But not in the way that she thinks.

Ian

So this is going to drop as a box set on the iplayer on BBC One.

Ian

You're going to get two episodes a week on a Monday night.

Ian

It's adapted from the novel by Booker Prize winning author Bernardine Evaristo.

Ian

And I have to say it's very, very good.

Ian

So it stars Lenny James, who's been in things like Line of Duty.

Ian

And he plays Barrington Jedediah Walker, also known as Barry.

Ian

And he's a snappily dressed antiguan born pensioner who is living in Hackney.

Ian

And he is married to Carmel, played by Sharon D.

Ian

Clark.

Ian

But his big secret is that he's having an affair and has been for a very long time with his best friend Morris, played by Arianne Bakari, who was in his dark materials.

Ian

So, yeah, that's the setup.

Ian

And it.

Ian

It flashes back in time.

Ian

It goes all the way back to the sort of antiguan childhoods, time periods in between, as we follow the sort of progress of the marriage.

Ian

And Morris was married at one stage as well.

Ian

And we also find out in different episodes, we find out the backstory of Carmel.

Ian

And then Carmel also goes back to Antigua on her own.

Ian

Then there's also.

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There are two daughters.

Ian

We find out a bit more about them.

Ian

One of them is a single parent and has a son.

Ian

So, yeah, there's plenty going on.

Ian

It's very much a domestic drama.

Ian

There's lots of these great scenes around the kitchen table in the Walker household and it touches on.

Ian

Obviously it touches on things like homophobia.

Ian

I mean, it's really nicely played, it's really well written, well adapted.

Ian

And you find that kind of your sympathies shift as the series progresses because, you know, you start.

Ian

I think you start off feeling a bit sorry for Barry.

Ian

His wife seems like a real nag and a real kind of very religious and her friends are quite homophobic.

Ian

But then as.

Ian

As it continues and you find out more about kind of the promise he made to Morris, which he never fulfilled and Morris feels trapped.

Ian

Morris kind of wants to come out.

Ian

Then you find out more about Carmel and what she's sort of given up to stay in this marriage.

Ian

It's.

Ian

Yeah, I think it's really, really well done, a great adaptation of a fantastic book.

Ian

So I would thoroughly recommend it.

Ian

What did you think, Hannah?

Hannah

Well, I hadn't read the book, but I kind of want to now and do it the other way around.

Hannah

But I think you're right.

Hannah

There are some big sort of topics here, aren't there, that are covered and the kind of the homophobia surrounding his relationship is.

Hannah

You know, I suppose these days, although things should.

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Are still not where they should be, that there's less of that.

Hannah

I certainly.

Hannah

I feel the sense that there is and it's much more accepted.

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Rightly so.

Hannah

So it sort of opens your eyes a bit on that front.

Hannah

And you know how difficult this kind of.

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This path was, if you like.

Hannah

And I know what you mean.

Hannah

I quite often find this with.

Hannah

With series like this, wherever you start, kind of feeling really you don't like someone, or even if you do like them and it changes, you know, through.

Hannah

As it goes on.

Hannah

And this.

Hannah

Absolutely this does happen.

Hannah

And it's so nuanced, because every time you sort of think, oh, you feel sorry for this person or that person, there's a reason why they're.

Hannah

And isn't that always the case?

Hannah

There's a reason why someone generally behaves like they do or they're unhappy or it's not working.

Hannah

I think it's really.

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I was interested immediately.

Hannah

You know, it captures you immediately.

Hannah

And I think it's a very good adaptation.

Hannah

So I haven't read the book in the first instance.

Hannah

So whether you would, if you've read the book, it does fairly represent it.

Hannah

That I wouldn't know.

Hannah

But coming to it sort of completely like I have, I just thoroughly enjoyed.

Ian

What I've seen over on Disney.

Ian

Plus, a very eagerly anticipated series.

Ian

Another adaptation of a famous book.

Ian

Yes, it's rivals.

Ian

And here's a clip.

Hannah

Tony Baddie.

Hannah

If you don't start spending some of.

Ian

That fortune making decent television, you're gonna lose your business.

Ian

Rupert Campbell black champion showjumper put out to pasture.

Ian

It's an arrogant black.

Ian

Have we got a poem?

Hannah

Makes life much more exciting.

Hannah

Oh, I do like a little bit of Jilly Cooper and her raciness.

Hannah

And that's exactly what this is.

Hannah

This is her rivals as one of her best selling novels.

Hannah

And, I mean, if you know Gilly Cooper's work, you're going to absolutely love this, because it completely delves into that world that she kind of involves you in, which is backstabbing, bed hopping, good looking men, good looking women and all the bad things happening.

Hannah

But what interests me about this one particularly is that this kind of focuses, say, if you read the book, you'll know between the long simmering feud between these two men.

Hannah

So one is the tv boss, Lord Tony Baddingham, which is played by the brilliant David Tennant.

Hannah

And then you've got a very handsome Tory MP, Rupert Campbell Black, played by Alex Hassel.

Hannah

And no matter how rich you are, it seems you always want more, or you could always be jealous of somebody else.

Hannah

And that's exactly what happens here.

Hannah

And it's so you see an insight into their lives completely in terms of how much money they've got and the power that they will use to execute what they want to do to suit their narrative and exactly what they want.

Hannah

And Tony, he's part of this media empire.

Hannah

And it focuses on ITV because ITV used to be split into sort of all different fractions, didn't it?

Hannah

And you kind of see behind the doors of that, too, the curtain kind of drops on that, too.

Hannah

And he's completely motivated by wealth and power and is so completely jealous of his rival Rupert.

Hannah

And he has got this media empire.

Hannah

He's got the option and a platform in which to, you know, try and get the revenge on the man that he, you know, that he really dislikes, because essentially he has it all.

Hannah

And, you know, will he do that?

Hannah

Well, of course, you know, if anyone reads.

Hannah

Has read the book again, you will know what happens.

Hannah

But it's.

Hannah

It's.

Hannah

I think it's really well done, actually, because it's.

Hannah

There's.

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There's lights and shades throughout this.

Hannah

So whilst there's some sort of real horrible treachery between people and, you know, particularly the bed hopping on the bed hopping front and the idea that you want to bring people down at the same time, there are sort of some really lovely backdrops throughout this.

Hannah

You know, there's, you know, the countryside and kind of some of these amazing parties that you imagine happen.

Hannah

But do they really happen?

Hannah

I hope they happen.

Hannah

And it kind of.

Hannah

I think when you read a book, like, well read of any jilly Coopers, you've got this.

Hannah

Your imagination runs wild.

Hannah

And I think that's probably the hurdle they had to get over with this.

Hannah

And they've certainly got, you know, a cast list to do that, haven't they?

Hannah

With, as I say, David Tennant.

Hannah

You've got Alex Hassel, Aidan the brilliant Aiden Turner.

Hannah

Don't worry, you'll get to see us just again.

Hannah

And, you know, it's.

Hannah

They've done it well because I think it could not work if you did it properly.

Hannah

Because books like this, they.

Hannah

Your imagination runs wild.

Hannah

You've already got a picture in your mind of what this would look like and suddenly then, you know, it's on the big screen.

Hannah

So I thought.

Hannah

I thought it was done very well.

Hannah

Very enjoyable.

Hannah

What do you think, Ian?

Ian

I think I'm gonna be out of step with public opinion on this one.

Ian

I mean.

Ian

Oh, yes.

Ian

Another drama series set in the eighties.

Ian

Good Lord.

Ian

And, yeah, lots of eighties hits.

Ian

Soft rock, eighties fashions and hair.

Ian

I've not read any gilly Cooper my view of this and I think it's been well received generally.

Ian

To me, it's really kind of overcooked.

Ian

It's almost caricature ish.

Ian

The characters are really two dimensional.

Ian

It's kind of cartoonish, really.

Ian

It's like a throwback to those really kind of glossy, soapy dramas like Dallas and Dynasty.

Ian

It's almost like a parody of itself.

Ian

And there's a lot of over acting in it just because of what the characters are like and what the script is like.

Ian

So, yeah, I really wasn't a fan at all.

Ian

And it's almost kind of carry on ish, all those kind of.

Ian

Remember those sort of sex comedies from the 1970s?

Ian

That's sort of how the nudity and the sex are treated.

Ian

So I didn't care about the tv franchise plotline at all.

Ian

So, I mean, I quite enjoyed episode one.

Ian

I liked Catherine Parkinson's character.

Ian

Um, you got Danny Dyer in there with a dreadful moustache.

Ian

There's quite a few moustaches in this.

Ian

Um, I thought Aidan Turner was good, actually, as the.

Ian

As the sort of very abrasive chat show host.

Ian

And my former upstairs neighbor Rufus Jones features in it as a Tory politician.

Ian

So it's not for me.

Ian

But I think it's going to be a massive hit.

Ian

And I know that, you know, a lot of people love Gilly Cooper books.

Ian

I've never read any and I'm sure they'll enjoy this.

Ian

So, yeah, it's not for me, but I'm not saying I don't recommend it because I think it's, you know, there's plenty to enjoy.

Ian

We move across to ITVX for yet another new drama series, arriving on Thursday the 17 October.

Ian

It's called so long, Marianne.

Ian

And here's a clip.

Hannah

You've all heard my song.

Hannah

Suzanne.

Hannah

I brought the man who wrote that great song, leonard Cohen.

Hannah

I heard of a man who says.

Ian

Words so beautifully that if he only speaks their name.

Hannah

Her name is Marianne.

Hannah

Leonard.

Ian

Women give themselves to him.

Ian

I am married to somebody else.

Ian

I have his child and I have nothing.

Ian

So I just wonder what you want.

Ian

Eight episodes to this one, Hannah.

Ian

And it is all about canadian singer songwriter Leonard Cohen, who wrote Hallelujah, didn't he?

Ian

Which has been covered many, many times by many famous artists.

Ian

Bird on a wire, Solong, Marianne.

Ian

And it's about his relationship with a norwegian woman called Marianne, played by Thea Sophie Loch.

Ian

Nice.

Ian

That's tricky to say, isn't it?

Ian

And who inspired the track so long, Marianne?

Ian

And it stars Alex Wolf, who I know from the horror movie hereditary.

Ian

He was superb.

Ian

That was kind of his breakthrough role.

Ian

He was superb as.

Ian

As the young lad in that.

Ian

If you've not seen it, it's on Netflix.

Ian

It's absolutely terrifying.

Ian

Really well done.

Ian

And he's great as Cohen.

Ian

And basically he wants to be a writer.

Ian

Basically, he really wants to be a novelist, I guess.

Ian

And he goes to the greek island of Hydra in 1960.

Ian

And it's a really kind of bohemian group of expat kind of artists and writers live there.

Ian

Just makes you think, God, I wish I was there.

Ian

It looks absolutely great.

Ian

So, yeah, he arrives there and Marianne is there with her husband, who's a writer called Alex, played by Jonas Strand Gravli.

Ian

And he's not very nice and he's not very faithful and he's not very considerate.

Ian

And they have a young son and then kind of.

Ian

Yeah.

Ian

Cohen and Marianne get together and I don't know if you remember, but Nick Broomfield, when he was very young, he had a liaison with.

Ian

With Marianne, I believe, on Hydra.

Ian

And if you saw his documentary, I arrived on Hedra and I got to know Marianne on the greek island.

Hannah

Anyway, you have a new career ahead of you, my friend.

Ian

That's my Broomfield impersonation.

Ian

So, yeah, this is really good.

Ian

I've only seen episode one, so we haven't got to the point, I mean, Cohen, he didn't become a writer.

Ian

He became, as we know, a singer songwriter.

Ian

And we haven't got to the point where we see him playing and singing his songs.

Ian

But I gather that Woolf does this superbly.

Ian

And I think he's really well cast in this.

Ian

Yeah.

Ian

So.

Ian

Well, I absolutely loved it, to be honest.

Ian

And I am a Cohen fan, so great subject for me for this drama.

Ian

And I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far.

Ian

What did you think, Hannah?

Hannah

Yeah, I agree.

Hannah

I mean, I'm not.

Hannah

I mean.

Hannah

Alleluia.

Hannah

I know.

Hannah

Of course I do.

Hannah

I wouldn't say that I'm a massive kind of Coen fan, but as with all of these kind of things, you learn things, don't you, about the person, about their life and kind of what led them to where they are.

Hannah

And I don't know, it's quite.

Hannah

It's a bit of an eye opener, isn't it?

Hannah

From what we've seen so far?

Hannah

It's an eye opener.

Hannah

The whole relationship with Marianne, the, you know, what went on behind that.

Hannah

You know, the kind of the love that was kind of the deep love that they had for one another and probably the person that really inspired him and the music that he wrote.

Hannah

So I thought it was very.

Hannah

From what I've seen so far, it's very interesting, kind of, again, fills in gaps.

Hannah

So, you know, the music, you hear it, you know, I think it was most recently sung by someone on the X Factor, even.

Hannah

Hallelujah.

Hannah

So, you know, it's in everybody's.

Hannah

Every generation will know that song, but you just don't really know the real artist behind it.

Hannah

And I think this kind of, this shows you that.

Ian

Well, we're going to finish with some comedy over on Prime Video.

Ian

Arriving on Friday the 18 October.

Ian

It's the office Australia.

Ian

And here's a clip.

Hannah

People ask me, how can I become a great boss?

Hannah

And the answer is having a happy staff that love you.

Ian

This is a proper hey char nightmare.

Hannah

As of today, we are all back in the office full time.

Hannah

What?

Ian

That's not good news.

Hannah

Gosh, it feels like so many years, doesn't it, Ian?

Hannah

Since the office kind of landed, it's just, it feels really old.

Hannah

And the idea that there's a new comedy kind of almost echoing what we saw so many years ago, it's kind of weird.

Hannah

But actually this works really quite, really quite well because it's an eight part series.

Hannah

It's set down under, as we said, and they've kind of modernized it to a degree because even though it's even back in the day when the office was on, it was still draconian in its approach to staff and wasn't acceptable in modern day practice.

Hannah

But this is kind of modernized itself again because it opens with the office, the boss, who in this instance is a woman.

Hannah

So that's the first time we've had that.

Hannah

That's really funny.

Hannah

And actually quite a big thing for her to do, I think, actually take on that role because the spotlight is on and it starts with her trying to deal with, trying to keep the office open in the modern day of everyone wanting to work from home.

Hannah

So they've kind of modernized the, you know, the way in here, which of course, you know, most offices are doing.

Hannah

Most offices can be quite bare and companies, after Covid, trying to get their staff back in.

Hannah

So obviously the office only works and the dynamics only work.

Hannah

And as we know, with the boss of the office, their life is that office.

Hannah

So it needs to stay open even if nobody else wants it to.

Hannah

And Felicity Ward plays the part of Hannah and she's, I think she is very funny.

Hannah

She's got her own.

Hannah

She's got her own take on it.

Hannah

She's completely delusional in the same way that Ricky Gervais was in this part in terms of the way that she kind of plays the character.

Hannah

And she.

Hannah

There's just some.

Hannah

I think there are some, from what I've seen of it so far, there are some quite laugh out loud moments.

Hannah

There are some, there is some real cringe worthy, as you'd expect, moments.

Hannah

I like the fact that they kind of cut and interviewed some of the staff.

Hannah

They've obviously worked closely at watching what it was like originally and stuck to that to a degree because why wouldn't you?

Hannah

But slightly their own twist and say having a woman as the office boss kind of immediately changes that dynamic.

Hannah

And it's.

Hannah

I don't know, she's.

Hannah

She's in.

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She is basically totally incapable in the same way that Ricky Gervais was.

Hannah

So if you like the office first time round, you'll.

Hannah

You'll probably.

Hannah

You'll probably like this.

Hannah

But of course, the american office wasn't for everybody either.

Hannah

It.

Hannah

It's cringey, you know, it's something you can do the washing up while you're.

Hannah

While you're watching it, I'd say.

Hannah

What do you think, Ian?

Ian

Well, as well as the american remake starring Steve Carell, which many people would argue, including myself, was better than the british series, and it ran for a very long time, the office has been remade in Germany, South America, Chile and Finland.

Ian

So in a way, it's on a bit of a hiding to nothing, this one, because if you've seen.

Ian

You're probably going to have seen the british and the american one, most likely, which were both absolutely superb and it's bound to be compared with them.

Ian

So I think.

Ian

I think that's challenging.

Ian

Of course it is.

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However, if you hadn't seen those and you watch this, you'd think this is.

Ian

This is great.

Ian

This is really funny.

Ian

Terrific characters, good script.

Ian

What a great idea.

Ian

Say, as you say, I like the idea that they've cast it with a female boss, Hannah, played by Felicity Ward, and then in the.

Ian

The Gareth character, the equivalent of a Gareth character is also a woman.

Ian

So it's quite fun saying, oh, so that's who's playing the equivalent of so and so, you know, Tim and Dawn and whoever.

Ian

And there's a real kind of hangdog hr guy.

Ian

So they're trying to hold it all together.

Ian

So.

Ian

And again, that it's at a packaging company in Sydney called Flynnley Craddock and it's.

Ian

Its slogan is think inside the Box.

Ian

So, yeah, I would say Hannah Howard, she's a bit more kind of just scatty and silly rather than particularly.

Ian

David Brent could be quite.

Ian

Quite nasty and very self serving, wasn't he?

Ian

But in a hilarious way.

Ian

So I'd say it's a little bit softer, but I do think it's.

Ian

I do think is good.

Ian

But unfortunately, it's.

Ian

It's always going to be.

Ian

To suffer a little bit by comparison with, with the british original and the american remake, but, yeah, I think it's well worth a look.

Ian

Well, we've got to that time.

Ian

Hannah, will we find out what the heck you've been binge watching this week?

Hannah

Well, Ian, I have been binge watching a couple of things, actually.

Hannah

I was working late one evening, and I watched League of their own, which was just funny.

Hannah

They were on tour in Mexico, and we have actually reviewed that before, so very good.

Hannah

Worth a watch.

Hannah

And also Malory towers.

Hannah

Honestly, we all sat down as a family to watch Malory towers, and we loved it.

Hannah

And they just keep dropping more and more episodes, which is great.

Hannah

So, yeah, we're still working our way through as the girls get older, I.

Hannah

How about you?

Ian

I have been watching the true crime drama monsters on Netflix, which is about the Menendez brothers.

Ian

So, yeah, I think last week I recommended the documentary on the same subject, but the, the drama is really good.

Ian

And it's got a terrifying turn by Javier Bardem, who's been in a Bond film.

Ian

And, of course, he was in no country for old Mendez as the boy's father.

Ian

And it's, you know, it's a shocking, shocking story.

Ian

And I think kind of the whole Menendez case, probably because of these drama.

Ian

And the documentary is back in the news headlines again, isn't it?

Ian

Now we just got time to look ahead to next week's offerings.

Ian

So what's on the agenda, Brenda?

Hannah

Well, Billy Crystal will star in Apple TV's before, a terrifying psychological thriller about a troubled young boy.

Hannah

Or right up my straight, Ian and Shazadh.

Ian

Lateef and Georgia Flood will star in Nautilus, which is a lavish retelling of Jules Verne's 20,000 leagues under the sea on prime Video.

Ian

So we look forward to those and much, much more.

Ian

But in the meantime, listeners.