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Good morning. I say, "Hey, hey, my name is Shaun."

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I got a strange little memory now that every time I say, "Hey, hey, I want to say we're the monkeys."

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But that just says I'm old, I think. But good morning, Shaun Boyce.

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This is 10 minutes of tennis with Justin Yeo,

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World-Renowned Tennis Coach, Australian in Puerto Rico.

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And we are talking about calm tennis versus panic tennis.

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And I asked Justin earlier, I said, "Is this as obvious as it sounds?"

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And he says, "Yes, but."

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So Justin, I want to ask that yes, but question.

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It's pretty obvious we want to become versus panicky.

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But you say there's a happy medium.

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What are we looking at there?

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Well, you're happy medium is you still have to be in a tennis.

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You still have to be competitive.

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Every all those little things create some chemistry in the body and emotions.

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So the whole concept of calm is to keep you elastic and making sure you get advantages

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of keeping your smart mind and thinking about things properly and versus panicking.

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And like I said to you before, sometimes when people panic their survival mode picks in.

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And all of a sudden actually finding that was ono.

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But really realistically, you can only spend that zone for so long.

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It's all to play as a lot about playing not to lose and playing when.

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You can play not to lose most times for your panicking.

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If you come, you can start to find ways to plan the win.

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And for me, calm is just consolidating,

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managing time between points and managing time between change events.

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Having a good look at your opponent.

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I mean, I don't know how many times I have to point out,

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but I feel like I'm a dial staring at his opponent to see,

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is he wearing down his nerves?

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Is there things going on?

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If you're not calm, you can't see these stuff.

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You're two in your own self, you're two in your own, you're two in your own stuff.

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And so sometimes the messages are right there if you can't.

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If you're panicking, you know, you can get away with some stuff.

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But I wouldn't say, you can really look at the winners versus the people say,

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when I suppose to say losers, the one who got second place.

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But you know,

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you see the difference usually.

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It is a hard way to look at calm because of the intense level of the game.

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But they calm, yeah, because they're focused on what they do.

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If you talk, if you listen to a lot of know that Jockovich's latest podcast,

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you can use, he talks a lot about his mindset coming into the match,

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during the match, during change events, going to the restroom and coming back out.

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He talks a lot about where he is.

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Yeah.

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And so that's sort of what I would talk about being found as a thank you.

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And it makes me think of one of our fitness tips that we have on the Atlanta tennis podcast

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is by coach Jovi, my wife, who talks about that change over mindset and being calm on the

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changeovers. And she notices no back.

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And she notices him with that big deep breath.

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And just that sitting there, unless he takes a few minutes and he decides he's going to chew out

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go around even as much in the box for some reason.

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But by the time he walks back up there, he goes right back to work because he's had that,

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he's had that calm.

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And I compare a little bit of the calm.

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I wanted to say the calm before the storm, but that's not really what it is because it's all

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going to be in there where you're externally fighting.

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There's so many references I want to bring up with.

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The one I'll bring up this time is what my brother says to me sometimes when we're performing and

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we're singing and we're on stage and we're saying, okay, I need to be able to sing quietly.

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But that quiet doesn't need to be calm.

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It doesn't need to be relaxed.

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It needs to be intense.

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And he brings up Michael Jackson.

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And he's got that sound where Michael Jackson just has that at the end of what he's doing.

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Excuse me because he's singing in a way that it's so soft and draws you in, but there's so

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much energy behind it.

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There's a storm under there.

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There's a calmness, but there's also that intensity.

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Is that what you're going for?

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That's a brilliant analogy.

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It's one of the best.

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That guy comes in so, he, but just,

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but I just think as he's trying to write things down because this is not an easy subject.

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I guess that's not too many people talk about it, but I quickly wrote down five tips for everyone.

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If they're listening right now, but been in paper or just come back to the podcast and

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listen to it again, click like, click forward.

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We should have an extra.

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These are probably the easiest tips to make sure you stay calm on a tennis court.

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And that would be number one, bring, like focus on your breath.

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You just mentioned it with your job.

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Second one, what's your posture?

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You bent over.

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Are you tense?

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You grab on the racket to the side.

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Like there's posture in the huge thing I had talked to the kids all the time.

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You don't walk like the winner.

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You don't walk like it.

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You literally, everything's going to come down.

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It's especially, you know, motion and positivity.

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So, that's no idea.

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And bring us to number three.

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Hang on.

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Sorry to interrupt.

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Number two, posture is that the same as body language or is it different anyway?

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It does mean body language.

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Body composure.

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Body composure is everything.

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And guys, you need to be part of that understanding.

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Because you short of ways can be like everything rolls over.

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So, you're not really effectively hitting a tennis court.

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Or you're causing injury, hitting a serve.

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Like there's all things that can happen from posture.

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Poster also helps you feel more positive.

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And that's my third one.

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It's positive affirmation.

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If there's a whole bunch of negative going on in your head

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and you're talking a low schmack,

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start trying to turn it around.

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You know, every time there's a note, there's a yes.

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Every time something says crap, then say good.

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You know, something like that.

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Just come up with things that always are opposite word.

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Positive affirmations to try to get the thing rolling.

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You know, number four is tactical thoughts.

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Most people are so ins and cells,

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which is a technique or a motion or whatever.

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Sometimes people can tactically

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and take the mind of all that stuff and start saying,

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"Okay, this is what I got to do to keep this guy."

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Or this, you know.

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And then the last one is just with that tactical thought.

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Just don't get too into it.

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Like think about the tool bag.

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And when using all my tools.

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And what other tools could I use today?

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Or change tools?

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Or am I hurting dead tools?

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Start thinking about within your range.

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Don't go outside your range.

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And I commonly say this all the time.

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And so easy.

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Three dimensions.

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Falling them back.

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Up and down.

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Side to side.

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Start thinking about how it hurts.

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And, you know, it's amazing how many balls

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would get back to the player versus using the core.

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Or using the dimensions.

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Like they don't like it near.

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They don't like it near.

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And then start sticking to it.

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I mean, it takes discipline to stick to it as well.

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You know what I mean?

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And so in that case, the tactical thoughts

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is a little bit makes me think of sticking with the plan.

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Which takes me back to plan A versus plan B.

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And is there a plan C episode we did on 10 minutes of tennis?

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Am I still in plan A?

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I'm focused on that.

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And one of the psychological things I learned is

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humans, we like to think we can multitask.

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Which means I can think about one thing

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while not falling over and walking.

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Meaning I can do two things at once.

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But I can't really think two thoughts at once.

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That just doesn't exist.

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So the one thing in my mind is either positive or negative.

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It's either tactical.

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Would you think what you call external or internal?

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Which is oh my god, I suck right now.

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So if I can stick with the plan.

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If I believe that say, you know what?

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I need to focus on what I'm supposed to be doing right now

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that can help keep me calm.

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And by the time I get over there to have to hit that passing shot

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on the last ball, maybe I don't panic and hit a bailout shot.

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And as we would say, stay calm.

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And I make him hit one more volley.

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So I can potentially hit an aggressive shot

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but stay in the point.

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There's a calmness because I'm focused on that

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positive concept of tactical strategy.

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Right.

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Well, you give me some more chances of doing that.

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You know, of course everybody likes to win.

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And some people just without winning their total panic.

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You know, but you have to understand the game is about ratios

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the bad numbers.

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And you know, you win some, you lose some.

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And I think if you stick to a plan and you go for it and you lose,

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you at least at the end of the match,

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you can be broke from it, learn from it, move on to the next match.

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And try to keep working on things because you understood and absorbed it.

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If you're in panic, you don't absorb anything.

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You don't learn, you know, grow.

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You just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

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And you can probably find your lose all by the same mistake.

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So, you know, I would suggest

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totally power is possible.

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And planning isn't the one for you.

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You know, like you said, just stick to it.

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And these change events can be something different.

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You know, but once you find something that works,

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don't come up with it until you act it.

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You know, but look for it.

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With a guarantee you at the time,

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just that seems to be more than what you really should be doing.

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You know, I like that.

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We'll put the five tips in the show notes at some point

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on the podcast and the question isn't,

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is panic tennis better or worse than calm tennis?

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We all know what it is, but we want that happy medium.

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And we've got some tips for you as to how you can stay calm

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while still being intense.

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And we can all be Michael Jackson on the tennis court.

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I like it a lot.

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Justin Yo, thank you so much.

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We'll see you next week.

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- See you, Mike.

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- Cheers.

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