Welcome to the Peak Revival Podcast.
Speaker:My name is Vesna.
Speaker:I'm gonna talk about is a dysregulated nervous system
Speaker:holding you back in business.
Speaker:There is a lot of talk about a dysregulated nervous
Speaker:system, and there's a lot of that messaging targeted to
Speaker:business owners, and it can really be to anyone, right?
Speaker:It doesn't matter.
Speaker:It's just that business owners are really more, uh,
Speaker:skewed to be high performing and be really productive
Speaker:and get the best results.
Speaker:And so that's why this.
Speaker:conversation that I'm gonna have today is centered
Speaker:around that, but it really can be for anybody.
Speaker:with family who have a lot of responsibilities
Speaker:carrying a load and are noticing that they're just
Speaker:not where they used to be.
Speaker:And often this can feel like, oh, I just can't
Speaker:handle this anymore.
Speaker:I don't have it in me to handle this, when
Speaker:that's really not true.
Speaker:So what does it mean when people talk about a
Speaker:dysregulated nervous system?
Speaker:So the symptoms look like you are productive, but everything
Speaker:feels like an effort.
Speaker:Your mind is really busy.
Speaker:You can never switch off.
Speaker:You might find yourself more reactive to your moods, like
Speaker:you're snapping really easily.
Speaker:Little things are bothering you that they weren't before.
Speaker:And you know, come evening time.
Speaker:You don't switch off.
Speaker:Your mind is really active and busy, even when there's
Speaker:not a lot of stress going on.
Speaker:Everything feels urgent.
Speaker:There's a lot of pressure on things to get things done,
Speaker:even though perhaps there isn't a major deadline.
Speaker:You wake up tired.
Speaker:You feel tired throughout the day.
Speaker:Some women say to me, I just feel extreme exhaustion,
Speaker:you find that you get things done, but you don't
Speaker:have that drive anymore.
Speaker:Everything feels dull and lifeness like you're
Speaker:going through the motions.
Speaker:You have to get the stuff done, but there
Speaker:isn't that drive and that passion anymore.
Speaker:So those are the common symptoms of a dysregulated
Speaker:nervous system.
Speaker:And I guess the other one that I should
Speaker:mention is the anxiety.
Speaker:So when the system's overactive, we can
Speaker:feel very anxious.
Speaker:We can get stuck in that place.
Speaker:So we become very anxious about a lot of things,
Speaker:which maybe you notice that you weren't before.
Speaker:So why does this matter for productivity, for
Speaker:decision making and for business growth?
Speaker:Business sustainability, it really matters because you are
Speaker:the key part of your business.
Speaker:And so if you are exhausted.
Speaker:You don't have mental bandwidth.
Speaker:You're not able to make clear decisions.
Speaker:You're not really as productive as you
Speaker:used to be, right?
Speaker:So you may find yourself very busy during the day,
Speaker:but you're not getting as much done as you would've
Speaker:say, you know, a year or two before losing kind
Speaker:of bandwidth and having a dysregulated nervous system.
Speaker:So busyness doesn't always equal productivity.
Speaker:Decision making can be harder because you're
Speaker:second guessing yourself.
Speaker:You're delaying making decisions because you
Speaker:actually don't have the mental capacity to actually
Speaker:process that decision making process, better.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:So you're not clear, very clear on the decisions
Speaker:because you don't have the mental capacity there.
Speaker:It also impacts how you show up in your business, to
Speaker:your team, to your clients, to your customers, right?
Speaker:Because there is that emotional reactivity.
Speaker:You're not as patient.
Speaker:You're not as warm, okay?
Speaker:You're probably a little bit harsher and probably.
Speaker:a bit more rushed in the things that you
Speaker:do, and so it doesn't create that connection.
Speaker:So overall it can really cost you in business sustainability
Speaker:and potential growth.
Speaker:So I see a lot of women in this phase and
Speaker:they will say to me.
Speaker:"I can't continue maintaining what I've built." Right?
Speaker:And so forget about growth.
Speaker:They're not thinking about growth.
Speaker:They, they're just like, I just wanna be able to keep
Speaker:doing what I'm doing, right?
Speaker:Keep my business.
Speaker:And, and I'm gonna explain more about this because it
Speaker:really comes down to your internal capacity, right?
Speaker:Your business can continue to grow, and you can
Speaker:sustain that growth as long as you are thriving.
Speaker:Right, so you can thrive in that situation.
Speaker:You can thrive in any situation.
Speaker:And so it's really about increasing, the energy,
Speaker:the bandwidth, the capacity in order for you to grow
Speaker:your business, maintain your business, sustain
Speaker:it, and you know, have a happy work culture as well.
Speaker:So most nervous system advice is a little bit backwards.
Speaker:And look, I agree with, or whatever you can do
Speaker:in the moment to reduce your stress, whether it's
Speaker:something somatic, yawning, or doing, moving, doing
Speaker:something with your body.
Speaker:That's all great.
Speaker:Maybe you try positive thinking and reframing.
Speaker:The problem with that is that you are trying to address
Speaker:the stress after the fact.
Speaker:So I like using this example.
Speaker:It's kind of like.
Speaker:If I've got a headache, I'm gonna take, well, I'm
Speaker:not going to, but you know, say for example, if I've
Speaker:got a headache and I take a paracetamol right, to
Speaker:relieve the headache, and that just, okay, my headache's
Speaker:gone, and so the next time I get a headache, I take
Speaker:another paracetamol and I keep doing that, right?
Speaker:So I get headaches every day.
Speaker:I take a paracetamol every day.
Speaker:Doesn't make sense, right?
Speaker:I would want to address why I'm getting the
Speaker:headache to begin with.
Speaker:And so that's why I say that a lot of that advice
Speaker:is backwards because yes, it's, it's great to get
Speaker:out of that stress response when it happens, but let's.
Speaker:Prevent getting into such a dysregulated nervous system.
Speaker:Let's prevent all the stress and anxiety and that whole
Speaker:overstress situation that the body goes through.
Speaker:Let's prevent that, right?
Speaker:Let's nip it in the bud.
Speaker:So then we have to look at, well, what's really driving?
Speaker:The stress, right?
Speaker:So a lot of this information is about environment, right?
Speaker:The people that you interact with, your boundaries that
Speaker:you have, and how much you've got on your plate and in
Speaker:your, and you know what you've got on your calendar and how
Speaker:many financial stresses and whatever, and that that is.
Speaker:A part of it, right?
Speaker:But it's not the whole story because when you
Speaker:look at what activates a nervous system, the nervous
Speaker:system is regulated.
Speaker:So we've got the sympathetic nervous system, we've
Speaker:got the parasympathetic nervous system.
Speaker:So this is the one in high alert mode, and this is
Speaker:the Relaxation response.
Speaker:And so often when we're in high stress, we're always in
Speaker:this sympathetic dominance.
Speaker:Now, what is triggering that?
Speaker:So what triggers a nervous system is the brain
Speaker:and a part of the brain called the amygdala.
Speaker:Now the amygdala is a tiny little part of the brain,
Speaker:which is always detecting threats in our environment.
Speaker:So it's a very much a lifesaving.
Speaker:System, right?
Speaker:But we don't have a lot of threat in our environment.
Speaker:We're not living in the jungle or in the bush
Speaker:or in a war zone, right?
Speaker:We are just surviving our day.
Speaker:So then what is tripping up the amygdala to activate that
Speaker:fight or flight response to activate the nervous system.
Speaker:And a lot of that activation is coming from our thinking.
Speaker:So we perceive threats in our environment.
Speaker:So if something happens at work and we can catastrophize
Speaker:things, we can anticipate problems that could happen,
Speaker:we can replay events that have happened in the past.
Speaker:We're always.
Speaker:Scanning our environment and making stuff up, but
Speaker:that is activating the amygdala and the amygdala
Speaker:doesn't know the difference between, you know, here's
Speaker:a bear coming towards me.
Speaker:I need to survive.
Speaker:I'm in mortal danger compared to.
Speaker:I wonder if I'm gonna have enough, I don't know enough
Speaker:money for next month for the bills, whatever it is, right?
Speaker:I wonder how my business is gonna survive this
Speaker:transition period.
Speaker:Whatever it is, right?
Speaker:There's no difference.
Speaker:And so the sympathetic nervous system is activated.
Speaker:And if we carrying those thoughts day in and day out,
Speaker:which is a lot of what happens where our mind, it's not
Speaker:even just the content of the thinking, it's the level of
Speaker:overthinking that keeps that nervous system switched on.
Speaker:Right and eventually causes that dysregulation
Speaker:where we stay stuck on this sympathetic so we're
Speaker:always in high alert mode, draining our system, changing
Speaker:our hormones, affecting the neurotransmitters in
Speaker:our brain, and keeping our system in high
Speaker:alert mode all the time.
Speaker:So having a busy mind is going to keep that nervous
Speaker:system activated all the time.
Speaker:It's going to reduce your bandwidth, it's going
Speaker:to change your body on a physical level, on
Speaker:a physiological level.
Speaker:So you're not gonna have the same energy.
Speaker:You're not gonna be able to regulate your
Speaker:moods or regulate or adapt to stress, right?
Speaker:You're just gonna be overactive.
Speaker:So while all of those, you know, exercises and
Speaker:post-stress treatments are amazing, right?
Speaker:Until you go further upstream to address the real problem,
Speaker:which begins here, right?
Speaker:So those exercises are great, but then we have to
Speaker:at some point look at what does real nervous system
Speaker:regulation look like?
Speaker:Regulating the nervous system is not about
Speaker:removing stress, okay?
Speaker:It's about increasing capacity.
Speaker:It's about being.
Speaker:Able to thrive in any situation, right?
Speaker:So you will look at a workplace and some people
Speaker:are stressed, very stressed, and some people are kind of
Speaker:taking it in their stride.
Speaker:Same environment, right?
Speaker:I like to use this example of, um, master Chef, you
Speaker:know, like when they give people the recipes, like
Speaker:all the ingredients, like, here's six ingredients,
Speaker:go make something right?
Speaker:And you'll see some people.
Speaker:They just see the list and they see the timer
Speaker:and how much they've got to go, and they, they
Speaker:just lose it, right?
Speaker:They just go to pieces.
Speaker:They're all over the place.
Speaker:They're stressed.
Speaker:You can see them running around.
Speaker:They're burning things, doing things wrong, right?
Speaker:So they don't have the capacity anymore, they've
Speaker:lost their bandwidth, whereas the other people in the
Speaker:same environment, in the same situation, the same
Speaker:pressure, the same task, are actually going through
Speaker:it quite methodically.
Speaker:And getting the job done without looking like they
Speaker:fall into pieces, right?
Speaker:I'm sure they're inside, they've got a different
Speaker:experience maybe, but they're actually able to perform
Speaker:really well under pressure.
Speaker:So what is the difference there, right?
Speaker:Same scenario, same situation, same pressure.
Speaker:But what's the difference?
Speaker:And the difference is that internal capacity.
Speaker:And the way that we increase that capacity
Speaker:or that bandwidth.
Speaker:You know, I talk about capacity like on a whole
Speaker:level, and then I look at mental and emotional bandwidth
Speaker:because when you have more bandwidth, you have more
Speaker:tolerance to stress, things don't bother you as much.
Speaker:You can make decisions more easily, you're available
Speaker:to higher level thinking.
Speaker:So it makes a huge difference for business and you
Speaker:know, financial decisions.
Speaker:So when we look at increasing capacity and bandwidth,
Speaker:the first thing that we look at is self-care.
Speaker:Right, because how you sleep, what you put into
Speaker:your body, how your glucose levels are regulated, are all
Speaker:going to make a huge impact to your bandwidth, right?
Speaker:So you go too long between meals, you snack on
Speaker:too many carbohydrates, not enough protein.
Speaker:Your sugar levels are all over the place.
Speaker:That will create more stress on a physical level, right?
Speaker:You don't have enough sleep.
Speaker:Your brain doesn't reset itself, doesn't
Speaker:process all the emotions from the night before.
Speaker:You're gonna wake up with a backlog in there.
Speaker:And you're already gonna feel full.
Speaker:You're gonna feel like zero capacity for the day.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And then nutrition, we know that if you don't
Speaker:have enough nutrition, your nervous system literally
Speaker:cannot stay regulated.
Speaker:Okay?
Speaker:Our body is using nutrition and nutrients like B
Speaker:vitamins and magnesium to keep it self regulated.
Speaker:So when you become deficient in that due
Speaker:to poor diet and chronic stress, those nutrients
Speaker:drop, which means that.
Speaker:You are gonna react to everything.
Speaker:That's just because there's nothing there
Speaker:to keep it calm, right?
Speaker:So taking care of our physical health and our self-care is
Speaker:a huge part of increasing bandwidth and capacity, and
Speaker:tolerating stress, or doing really well under pressure
Speaker:and stressful situations.
Speaker:then the next part is the mental load, the
Speaker:overthinking, the constant thinking, the analyzing,
Speaker:the catastrophizing, right?
Speaker:All of this is going to shrink your mental bandwidth.
Speaker:Remember how I said it's less about, the
Speaker:contents of your thinking?
Speaker:Like you could be worried about an email or.
Speaker:The future of your business or what's happening with
Speaker:AI or the economy or whatever, it's right.
Speaker:But it's the fact that there's way too much busyness, too
Speaker:much mental noise in there that there's just no room
Speaker:for higher level thinking.
Speaker:There's just no room to adapt to stress.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so reducing that mental load, being aware of how
Speaker:much mental load that you are actually carrying.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Because one thing that's really important to see,
Speaker:and I've talked about this in other podcasts, is that.
Speaker:Over analyzing and worrying.
Speaker:It's not where you get the solutions to your problems,
Speaker:Our solutions come from mental clarity and insight
Speaker:to completely opposite ends of the spectrum.
Speaker:So when we're in this state of worry and sympathetic
Speaker:dominance, we have less access to solutions.
Speaker:And when we have a clearer mind and we're able to
Speaker:create more space in there by not worrying and over
Speaker:catastrophizing and not having to think about things, we
Speaker:will be provided the solution.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:So polar opposite.
Speaker:So once you actually see that play out for you, doesn't make
Speaker:sense to keep overthinking over catastrophizing, over
Speaker:planning overanalyzing, right?
Speaker:So the real goal here is to increase bandwidth.
Speaker:Which increases your calm, which changes your
Speaker:hormones downstream, right?
Speaker:Your hormones start to reset themselves.
Speaker:Your nervous system resets itself for
Speaker:the long haul, right?
Speaker:So not in a short term, we're talking, this is where your
Speaker:nervous system stays regulated for the long haul, okay?
Speaker:And it increases your capacity to handle
Speaker:whatever you have on and to thrive in any situation.
Speaker:I hope that's helpful.
Speaker:I'd love to hear your comments.