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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Hi and welcome to the You world order showcase. Podcast I'm your host, Jill Hart. And with us today is Megan. Mary Megan is a dream analyst, a metaphysical mystery, author and founder of the women's dream analysis. She works with clients all over the world, offering dream interpretation, women's empowerment, transformative journeys and spiritual awakening guidance.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: She's also the host of A, podcast called Women's Dream Enlightenment, and this is a podcast for women, which features deep discussions, dream interpretations

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and spiritual stories of awakening.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Welcome to the show, Megan. It's really great to have you here.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Thank you, Jill. I'm really excited to be here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: So let's start at the beginning. How did you get into doing dream analysis and dream interpretations and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: just wandering into the woo, as they say.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes. Well, I've always been fascinated with dreams. Of course we spend so much of our lives in that state, and we don't really understand why

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: or what the purpose is. And I had that question ever since I was little I used to have

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: recurring nightmares as well as fascinating flying dreams, and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: I was just really interested in finding out more. I knew there was more, but no one really seemed to hold the answers, and it led me down a path of really just

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: being very inquisitive, looking into everything that was esoteric or occult, or metaphysical.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: or new age, or woo, or whatever

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: those things are classified as, and I also studied a lot academically from

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: astronomy and philosophy and sociology and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: mythology, all of that, and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: really incorporated it all together

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to the point that I guess when I was

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: in my early adulthood I started ignoring my dreams.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and I wasn't paying attention at all.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: then, later on, I

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: developed a series of chronic illnesses

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and started doing a lot of self work.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: shadow work, inner work.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: meditating reflection, and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: opened up that door again.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And when I did I started to receive a lot of guidance in my dreams and a lot of messages, information.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: very emphatically it was that I needed to go out into the world and do this. And of course, at the time I was like, no way, I'm not ready to do that. And

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: so it took a lot of

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: overcoming a lot of challenges and self limiting beliefs and doubts, and all of that to

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: step into that role. But it really felt like something. I don't even really have a choice. And I have to go as fast as I can to get there. And so that was creating my podcast that was creating my business of working with women, doing dream work

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and helping them understand the benefits of it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: So what is streamwork? And I know that not everybody

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: recognizes that they dream every night.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I I always. I've always remembered my dreams.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: but there are people I know, because my husband doesn't remember his dreams very often.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Mike. Well.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: you're spending all this time asleep. Surely you were. Gonna remember what you were dreaming about. It's like Nope.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes. So

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: there's a couple

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: answers to that question. The 1st is that we all do dream

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: whether we're remembering them or not. So we're going in and out of rem sleep throughout the night and spending 90 min or so in in that state, and lapsing back and forth, and many times. We won't remember, because we're not trained to do so. We're not paying attention. It is a practice

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: like meditation or yoga, or any other practice

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you have to apply intent

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to remember them

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: because we're transitioning through brainwave states.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and we're conditioned to ignore them.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So we're not necessarily going to automatically remember them, unless there is a significant emotional trigger attached

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: because our brain experiences the dreams

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: from an emotional standpoint as if we were awake. And so sometimes we'll have nightmares or other emotionally charged dreams that we will remember simply because of the emotional reaction. But otherwise we might not remember the rest of them unless we're

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: doing the practice of keeping the Dream Journal trying to take the pause in the morning to remember them. Now the other pieces that women tend to be better. Dream recallers, and this has been explored in various studies and and books. One of them, Patricia Garfield, has a book called Women's Bodies, Women's Dreams, where she talks about

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: women's estrogen level affecting the amount of dream recall that women have, and she's also done many studies where

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: they will have both men and women write down their dreams, and then

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Strip, whose name was on it, and have them compared, and say, Well, do you think this is a man or a woman's dream, and the women will always write down a more detailed dream record.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: so that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: naturally makes it easier

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: for to do that work because we are more predisposed to remember them.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So that's some of the reasons.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Interesting. Why would people want to remember their dreams? How do you?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I've got like so many questions.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: so we'll we'll just start with that one. And then.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: That I don't work.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Well, many people.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: First.st

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Don't appreciate them, so they don't understand

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: one. Why we're having them or 2, why we need to remember them

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: so, for anyone that is interested in self-discovery work, doing any sort of self-help.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Dreams are another pathway

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to our intuition, our higher self, our universal wisdom, the parts of ourselves that we might be cloaking from ourselves the parts that we could grow.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: It's so much in our subconscious because

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: our conscious is only 5% of our mind and our subconscious is 95% of our mind. So do we want to tap into that? Do we want to know what's behind that veil? And what's the benefit of doing so? It allows us a much more holistic understanding of ourselves, as well as tapping into the universal field of knowledge that we may be just essentially living in a dream. In our waking life we're asleep.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: We're not

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: using all of our mind, all of our experiences, and we're not giving ourselves an opportunity to advance.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So I really feel that dreams are for me a pathway to spiritual intelligence, and we know how important they have been traditionally in the psychology field. And so obviously, there's benefits there, but also it just in the arts, for example, the creative potential of dreams.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And so much more. There's so much promise in the field of dream work, and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: it really hasn't fully been embraced in culture yet.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Is there?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Let me ask it this way.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I know when I dream I dream in symbols and metaphors almost, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: like things happen to me, and I have adventures, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it's it's almost like I'm living another life

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: in my dreams, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: sometimes I, other people that have passed will come and talk to me, and they'll tell me things.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Do you help people?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I want to say interpret, but it's

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it is interpretation. I

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: help them to like, understand what these things mean like, I can have dreams about lions. Sometimes lions are attacking me, sometimes I'm working with the lions, sometimes it's tigers, sometimes it's, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: they're they're perfectly kind. And other times I'm really afraid they're going to get me

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: but

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I know that they mean something.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Do you help people understand what your dreams are trying to tell you. I guess it's.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, and it, although it is interpretation.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: the method that I use that I've devised really puts the dreamer in the driver's seat, and so as opposed to me, saying, Well, I'm going to get out my A to Z dictionary, and I'm going to look up lion and lion archetypally or culturally means this. And so there's your answer. And that's what it means for you. Isn't the approach that I use, because your experience with lions is going to be completely different from mine

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and your opinions about them, your your emotional attachment.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: your perception, everything is going to be different. And so, when those symbols show up in a dream.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: They mean something unique to you.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and they're part of a larger story

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: also. So when you use a dream dictionary, you're looking up something alphabetically by the 1st letter of that word. And you're just looking up that thing, and you're not getting the premise

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and all everything surrounding it.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So we really want to. We do want to look at the little pieces, but we always also want to look at the 1,000 foot view. What if this dream were a story, would you call it? What's happening in the dream? What's your emotional reaction? Who else is there? What is

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: the landscape and all of those things

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and derive from that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: a message

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: that is relevant to your waking life

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: because our dreams don't necessarily tell us what we already know. They're trying to reveal things to us that can help us.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: but in a symbolic language. And so it's learning to decode that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and essentially establishing your own dream lexicon.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: so that you can then

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: recognize them in future dreams. Understand

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: the trajectory of your dream stories.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Do you find that people's dreams change over time?

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Absolutely. Yes.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: because your life is changing. Right? So if you're experiencing

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: a transition in your life, or you're overcoming challenges or your

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: stepping into a new

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: or you're questioning things. All of that's going to be reflected in your dreams. And when you start to do dream work, you're pulling those threads from the subconscious into the conscious. And then that's synergistically going to affect the content of your dreams.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: That's so interesting. And why?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Why do?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Why do people forget their dreams? But why? Why would?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: There's just so much about dreams?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Personally, I look at it as like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I can't wait to go to sleep at night, and it's like I'm opening the door, and I'm walking through.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, yes. There's a lot of reasons. Okay. So

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: sometimes people will say, Well, I

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: I want to talk about this dream that happened 10 years ago, so they haven't forgotten some dreams. Stay with you for a long time, because they're very. They're very powerful.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Other people like you said will say, well, I don't think I dreamed last night. I haven't had a dream in months. They are. They're just not remembering them, and they're not remembering them because they're not using the practice and the tools

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to do that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to work that dream, recall muscle.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: also because maybe they don't want to hear those messages, so you can subconsciously or consciously say.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: that's gibberish, or that's not important to me, or I know that there's something there. But I'm not ready to hear that message.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And so then it's going to quietly go away.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: It's just like, if you pay. If you decide to pay attention to synchronicities in your life

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: or not.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you can dismiss them and say, Well, that's just a silly coincidence. It means nothing. Or you can say, isn't it weird that.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and then start following those breadcrumbs till you see more and more, and you start to realize that there's something to it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Did dreams tend to run in cycles like you dream about

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: a chunk of information. And the story kind of continues like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: like a television series.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, and we tend to. There's been studies that have said that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: the dreams earlier in the night

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: are not technically usually as complex and as long

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: that we spend longer in rem as the night goes on, and that many times the ones that are earlier in the night can appear to be, although they're not entirely more.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: I don't want to say regurgitations of the day, but

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: more pedantic. And then, as we go along, they can become more epic, more saga, like, more longer, because we're spending longer time. And we're deeper into that state.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: How long do dreams generally last.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: There is research. I was just reading the other day that when they did some of the initial

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: rem tracking that the time in the dream

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: does to some extent correspond to the rem time.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: although

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: when you start to look at dreams from a spiritual perspective.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you lose

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: the constraint of time.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: other planes of existence, other levels of dimensionality are constrained to the space and time continuum.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So if we are in fact, spirits having a human experience. And if maybe we're returning to that spiritual state during the dream state.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: then we are releasing ourselves from those constraints. And maybe that is why, when we say I feel like I was just away for a month or years took place in the in that seeming hour. That could be why? Because we're here we are constraining ourselves to these

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: presupposed limitations of the hours on the

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: clock. But

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: it doesn't go by those rules.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: If you look at it in the opposite way. Where

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: how long does rem generally last

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: for people.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And you you cycle through it several

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: during the night.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And it kind of corresponds with how your body's repairing itself. I I know that different times of the night. Your body is working on different

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, and it's it's interesting to me that as humans, we can't go without sleep.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So even if we have a little rest. But we don't get rem. There is a backlash. There is a dramatic effect on our Psyche.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and how that's been clinically proven. But yet in society it's still dismissed as nonsensical.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Yeah, it's an easy way to drive people crazy, and they use this as a torture device. They'll keep the lights on. They'll make noise, so you cannot.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: part of sleep. And people seriously, they they lose their minds. Yeah, it's just.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Little bit different is that when you put people in solitary confinement

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: or long periods of time, it also drives them crazy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: It's it's the most cruel and unusual punishments are those 2 pieces.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Without actually even touching the person.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: it's fascinating. I mean, I was just reading about this study where

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: so fascinating. And it's psychosis is really kind of when the dream world

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I wonder if if multiple personalities isn't kind of along those lines, too? It might.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Well, I think that there are a lot of instances of quote, unquote psychosis that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: don't have. They can't be explained on the spiritual realm.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: It's just not accepted here because there's a certain way that we're supposed to exist and

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: confined within the constraints of what we have proven to be true, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And yeah, well, we've generally agreed upon, whether it's true or not is correct, always the same, and that that does change over time as different experiences happen. And I think, as women

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: because men and women's minds work differently.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: for the longest time. And this is why a lot of women ended up in institutions and sanitariums. And they did all those electric shock treatments. Those were mostly done on women who

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: they were trying to make like men.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: But we're not like men. Our our minds, our psyches, work differently than a man's Psyche, you know. You're just saying, you know, we're more detailed in our dream. Recall.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, yes, and Patricia Garfield actually talks about the differences in the mind, structure and operation. It's very fascinating what you were just saying, how they are quite different. So it's important to acknowledge that, and also just really interesting to research.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I think it's fascinating. And I'm so excited that women are getting into this field and they are exploring it, people, like you that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Hey, let's look at what you're dreaming about. And how is that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: designed to serve you instead of just, you know. Oh, yeah, I had a dream about.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: What? What is your dream work

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: process?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I know you have our dream mirror method, I guess, is.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: really works in 4 steps. The the 1st step is really acknowledging that we need to start remembering the dreams and how we do that. And so it's starting to keep the practice, the mindful practice of the Dream Journal. And when you record your dreams.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: giving your dreams a title, if it as if it were a short story. How would you describe this in one quick phrase.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and then not glossing over, not over summarizing, really writing down every detail that you can remember. And

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you know I try to coach people on the things to pay attention to.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: because many times, once I get that dream record and we start talking about it inevitably, they will say, Well, now that we're talking about it. You know, it really did look like this. And that really makes me think of this. And I had this feeling that it was like this. And there's all these things that are happening that you might not even write down at the time.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: The second step is mood, and that's where we pay attention to the emotions in the dream.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: as I was discussing before

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: our limbic system in our brain controls our emotions. And when we're dreaming that part of our brain is completely active. And on there's other parts that are turned off

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: like we don't get up and walk around unless we have sleepwalking issues, and many other things are turned off but that and the logical part. But the emotional part is

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: fully active. And so what was the mood that we experienced before we went to sleep. What did we experience during the dream? And then, when we woke up, how did we feel?

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And those can all be different, but just acknowledging that the mood is a key indicator.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: The 3rd stage is what I call mirror, and that's really where, as opposed to being a dream dictionary, I try to hold up a veritable mirror to your subconscious and ask a series of questions and say, Okay, well, who is there? Tell me about this person in real life? Or is it a celebrity that you don't know? What's your opinion about this person?

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And what was the landscape? Where were you at your home? Were you at your childhood home? Were you at school, or work, or someplace? You've never been?

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and really get all of those little puzzle pieces together, so that we're acknowledging the objects. Sometimes there's colors or numbers or weather

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: all of those things that stood out. And then the 4th stage is metaphor. And that's where we look at the dream as a symbolic story. That is a parable of sorts that is bringing across a message. That is a metaphor for a situation in your waking life. And what is that situation? And what can we take from that message

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to then integrate into our path forward to help us grow and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Do you find? People can ask questions like before they go to sleep and and get their get their dreams to answer questions.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: You definitely can, and that is called Dream Manifestation or Dream Incubation, where you're really

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: setting your your mind to work. Gail Delaney has a book called The 24 h Mind. And that's really what that is about that your mind is always working, and it can work for you, and you can ask it questions, and you can ask.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: other versions of yourself and other parallel realities. Whatever you feel it is that you're tapping into.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you can ask guidance

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: for that. And so you can find solutions to things. You can discover new

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: options, other ways to deal with situations or other pathways that maybe you thought were close to you by reflecting on that, either just mentally, or writing it down in your journal before you go to sleep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I like this a lot. I I have practiced that, and it's so fun.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I'll ask a question, and then

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I'll consciously be

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: aware, looking for the answer, because

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it might not even come in the dream. It might come in the next day or 2. Just kind of out of the blue. You'll just hear the answer

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: to like specific questions.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: That's like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: okay.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, and that's that's clear audience when you actually hear the answer.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And that's really one of the ways. And also sometimes when you're in that state between sleeping and waking.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you can hear the answer, and other times you'll say, well, I asked this question, and I had this dream, but this has nothing to do with that. Well, maybe it does. But you have to apply that method. You have to say, Okay, how is this? Not literal? And maybe symbolically, this is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: We're really working with it. So how do you help people? Do you? Is it like one on one? Is it in groups.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, it's all one on one on one. Virtual sessions, and women can book the time, and then they submit their dream. And then, when we meet, I go over the dream with them in full detail.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And you can hear examples of this on my podcast when I do the live dream sessions.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: It gives you a good bird's eye view of what it's like. And then, once we discover, okay, here's what this really could mean. And here's how I think this applies to my life. Then I do what I call dream integration, where I actually offer different types of modalities, whether it's affirmations or journal prompts or sound frequencies

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: to help you integrate the knowledge that you've learned. So you're not just walk off going. Okay, I get it now. But what do I do with that? I don't know what to do now, so it gives you an opportunity to

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Take that next step that is presented in the dream.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: And I also have programs where I work for 90 days together doing that process over and over again, so that you really start to see

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: from day one to day, 90, the progress that you've made, you start to understand the process of

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: as you're starting to interface with it and starting to become more aware of both sides of your existence.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: So would you say that you work with

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: sort of 2 sorts of people? One is somebody who had a dream, and they're just like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I know, this is significant. I really need to talk to somebody about what this means. It's more of a 1 off situation. And then there's people that want. They know that dreams are powerful and that they can really help them. So you're going to start at ground 0 and say, Okay, these are the steps you need

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: before you go to sleep. And while you're sleeping, these are, you know, there's preparatory work. I guess that you you need to do in order to retain that dream, and then

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: your your process in the morning for recording all of the information and and making sure that you have time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: You don't schedule things in the morning so that you have time to have the recall, and you have a space where you can be alone, and maybe you have a ritual or something that you do with it. But those are the kinds of things. And over 90 days you develop a really big picture in answer to. Maybe you start out with a question or

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: you want to. You want to know which direction you should be going. You're looking for feedback

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: is that.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: I call those programs the dream empowerment programs, because they're really meant to empower you, to understand how to do the process, and then to move forward with it on your own for the rest of your life, so that you're tapping into that, and it also gives you an opportunity to

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: actively

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: take part in your own healing. So the sound frequency aspect is that I will in one of my programs I will create a guided visual meditation

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: healing overlaid while I am walking you through a scenario of your choosing of your dream.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: So whatever

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: several of the dreams chosen from that period.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: so that you can reimagine a different ending.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and so that you have the opportunity to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I like that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I I like that a lot. So I know that you offer a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: a a gift.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and that's in terms of a Dream Mirror Journal. Do you want to talk about that a little bit?

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yeah. So it's basically just a 1 sheet that you can get download from my site when you sign up to be on my list, and it gives you the boxes for the 4 steps of the method that we've talked about today, and just gives you a framework

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: for your own Dream journal to what you should be paying attention to, how you can record it, and let you understand. Just to start getting into that habit of giving it a title writing down your mood because you want to capture your emotional reaction. And so it's just a little primer

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: towards them.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And how can people get in touch with you if they want to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: explore this further with you? Because it

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it's really fascinating.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yeah, so you can find me@meganmary.com. And that is where you can book a session with me. You can also explore my podcast which is women's dream enlightenment. And I also have an online, self-paced

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: course that will walk you through steps for dream recall. It'll cover all the things that we talked about today, but in more in depth, and it gives you that opportunity to learn it on your own

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: like. I said, I also have those 90 day programs. And I also have my book on there which is really an exploration into learning how to tap into your dreams. But in the fictional landscape of fantasy and mystery.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Oh.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: that sounds fascinating!

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes, it just came out in October. It's called The Dream Hunters. That's the 1st book.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: The series is called Witches of Maple Hollow, and each book is really

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: following the main character, Hannah's spiritual awakening journey through her dreams. There's alternating dream scenes throughout the books, and it really is.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: you know a metaphysical adventure that

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: teachers at the same time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Such a great way to to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: incorporate information

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: into your subconscious, when you can kind of just slide it in there sideways.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Well, it's having a good time.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Yes.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: enlightening and educating. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Perfect. So this has been a fascinating conversation, Megan, I really appreciate you coming on. What's the one thing that you hope the audience takes away from our discussion.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Listen to your dreams.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: They really hold messages for you. I believe that they are the key to not only our intuition, but to being more in alignment with our full purpose.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: and there's so much waiting behind that door for you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I love that. Thank you for joining me today.

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Megan Mary - MeganMary.com: Thank you for having me.