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Welcome back to the Promoted podcast, the podcast that helps you get promoted and be great when you get there.

Happy 2025, Renee.

We are back in the game of podcasting.

How has the start of your year been?

How are you?

What's news in your world?

Oh, my God.

So good to be back.

Welcome back to our listeners as well.

We've missed you guys and we can't wait to get into all of your Promoted queries, pickles and promotions for the year ahead.

Felicity, it's so good to be back.

I'm on Larrakia country now.

I have made the move from the east coast of Australia to the Northern Territory, which is crazy.

I'm up in Darwin.

So this Christmas holiday has been less holiday and more business and moving and packing and yeah, it's been a hectic Christmas period, to be honest, but feeling really settled now that I'm in Lia.

I'm very excited for 2025 and the year ahead for sure.

What about you, Felicity?

How has your 2025 kicked off?

It's been great.

I mean, I love this time of year where it's this reflection piece, regrouping.

I am so ready to get into the year.

We have been on this beautiful motorhome trip for the last couple of weeks, or actually even it's been about two months, which has been huge.

And it's been so n spend time with family, working on the road, having a whole mix of being in nature, being in all those beautiful, happy places, as well as getting to do some really fun work.

So, yeah, today we're heading back up the coast.

We just left Sydney yesterday we're heading to Brisbane and then sunny coast and today I am in Forster.

Tongue curry in wormy.

Wormy.

I'm not sure that's the correct pronunciation.

I think that war am I?

Where am I?

Yeah, we're my country today.

Yeah.

And yeah, I've actually been thinking a lot about goals this year and for me, I've got to focus on instead of the outcome or the goal, focusing on the process or the inputs rather than the outputs.

And the way that I've been told to think about goals traditionally is the smart goals, you know, or.

Yeah, thinking about that end result like I'm going to run the marathon or I'm going to produce X, Y, Z.

But.

But that is actually.

Can be quite tricky to control sometimes.

Actually it is tricky to control a lot of the time on these goals.

Actually, as James Clear says in his book Atomic Habits, it's about focusing on the process and the input Inputs and those things that you're doing every single week that actually lead you to achieving that goal.

So this year I'm focusing on that part of the equation, the inputs.

And I've got one goal which is all around sustainable performance and having a breakthrough year.

And it really stood out to me, actually, when I went on holidays at the beginning of December because I was totally exhausted.

And I don't know if you've ever done this, Renee, where you're like limping to your holiday.

You're hoping to get there, and then you get there and you crash and you're totally exhausted.

So for me, my visual, you know, image of what does that look like in reality at the end of 2025, that is me going on holidays at the end of the year going, oh, my gosh, I feel rejuvenated, I feel fantastic, I feel great.

I'm not completely exhausted.

So that's my big goal for the year.

How about you?

Have you got some.

Have you got some big go?

Oh, well, I know you've got some exciting goals.

There is some awesome personal ones that are happening for you in April, but have you got any big goals for 2025?

I do.

As you know, I always have some big goals, just like you, Felicity.

A big part of that, I think for me is really injecting a lot of energy into our promoted podcast this year and bringing some new and exciting content and maybe even some new platforms to our audience.

So very, very excited to kind of build that out with you and bring that to all of our listeners.

But can I just reflect on your goal?

I think this is phenomenal for you because for the length of time that I' known you, you always burn the candle.

And so I am excited for you to learn how to integrate your life and really give more self care and attention to how you're looking after yourself.

And for me, I haven't had that burnout marathon to the end of the year where you're like, just waiting to get to that last step since uni, actually.

So 2016, I think, was the last time I crashed and burned in my last holiday leading up to Christmas.

So I can't tell you how change, but I think exercise and just knowing that that was like a really unhealthy way to live my life.

And I think, you know, uni is different, right?

And it's really hard because you have to meet these deadlines.

There's no pushing things back or, you know, being able to slow down.

But then I think real life plus parenting plus running your own businesses, like, you've got really this like crazy amalgamation of things that you're working on.

So I'm excited for you.

I feel like this year is going to be so wholesome for you, for your family, for our business, for your other businesses.

So I'm really, really excited for you.

For me, what are my goals this year?

I think more family focused, but also so much in the career space, as always.

As everybody knows, I went to NASA JPL last year for an internship and I don't know if it's too early to come to a conclusion on that yet, but it gave me such a great behind the scenes understanding of what a career in the space sector could look like that I think I've come to the conclusion.

It's a big call to make.

I think I've come to the conclusion that I love sustainable aviation perhaps more than the space sector Right now.

I'm really excited by the culture at Lanzajet, who I'm currently working with.

We're there to develop and license our technology to produce sustainable aviation fuel and we're trying to reduce global emissions of the aviation sector.

So for me, it just is such an exciting goal to contribute, contribute to.

It's imperative for our future generations and just the pace at which we're moving and also the context of the work we're doing.

I think after spending another 10 weeks strapped to a desk thinking about publishing papers and looking at the fundamentals of mathematics and working through all of those very dense calculations, whether it's calculus or.

Yeah, just really deep mathematics, I.

I think I kind of come to the conclusion that it's not my forever.

So it was a big decision to make.

And, you know, I've also realized that astronauts, you know, a huge part of their role is to publish papers, to run experiments, and to do that hardcore math up in space.

Yeah.

And so if I'm not absolutely, like, loving that, the way that I love this podcast and the work that we're doing and the work I'm doing for my career, yeah, I've had to come to that conclusion.

So that's.

That's been something I've been churning and burning on, to be honest, for the past probably three or four months.

Is, is this, you know, a fork in the road for me and am I letting go of a dream that I thought I may have?

So we're still sitting on that.

I think I'm fairly comfortable with it now, but it's always really hard.

Right.

There's a lot of pressure from society on, like, oh, you've already said that you wanted to achieve that thing and now you're deviating from that.

Like, is that okay?

Can I tell my friends and family that?

And they not have their expectations, like, taken away?

And yeah, I, I think I'm fairly comfortable with that.

I've done that most of my life, to be honest.

I've always made decisions and chased chase things in my career that other people probably wouldn't have picked.

So I'm very used to that kind of feedback around.

Wow.

Like, I'm so surprised you made that decision.

But yeah, that's probably been the biggest thing for me, to be honest, in, in making that decision.

Yeah.

Fork in the road.

Yeah.

And a big part of goals.

And Alex Hormozi talks about this, about being committed.

He says, you know, when you choose to marry somebody, you're saying no to every single other person on the planet because you're saying, I'm choosing this person above everyone else.

And I thought that analogy is so helpful when you're committing to a goal or you're committing to something because it actually has you forego all of those other opportunities.

And I feel like that about, you know, having just one simple goal for the year is.

I'm foregoing everything else, whether that means there's.

There's some projects that I've committed to, like yourself, that I've.

I'm actually clear I'm not going to continue.

So I've got a phone call tomorrow with somebody to complete that share that I'm not going to.

I'm not.

And I won't say it right now because I haven't had that conversation yet.

And to say this actually doesn't fit with this for next year.

And there's a whole process to me of, well, I've actually got to learn about myself to go, what makes me work optimally?

Where am I in my flow state?

What have I got to outsource?

What have I got to change about how I work to.

To have that goal?

And so I love that idea of you actually committing to something and you're saying no to a bunch of other things.

I think often we commit to things, but we don't actually say all of those no's as well.

And I think that's a really, really powerful part of it too.

I agree.

And it's exciting because I think what it has helped me do is really get clear now on like, so how am I going to focus my energy and how am I going to absolutely smash my job?

How am I going to Inject my energy now into things that I absolutely love.

So, you know, for me, moving to Larrak and just becoming a part of the Darwin community now.

So how do I inspire the generations of people up here about sustainable aviation?

I'm thinking about going into the universities and trying to deliver lectures and to just start sharing my career to kind of inspire this next community.

So that's a big goal for me this year is giving back to the community here in Darwin, I think learning and traveling more around this country as well and learning more about, again, my own culture, but the culture of the Larrackay people up here and thinking about how I can kind of again, support, promote and just advocate for first nations rights and needs and then outside of the community.

Yeah, big relationship goals as well this year.

So getting married in just under three months, which is so exciting.

So excited to have you there with me, Felicity, on my big day.

Yeah, it'll be beautiful to share it with you and so many of my.

Yeah, my closest people.

And then, yeah, career wise, you know, Promoted, as I've already mentioned, doing a lot more in this space for the Promoted podcast and just making sure that we're delivering incredible projects and sustainable aviation fuel not only in the Asia Pacific region, but globally.

So a lot of travel again this year, which I'm really excited for.

What's really interesting is, you know, a lot of the work that I've done in my past few roles around first nations engagement, trying to elevate first nations culture within Western cultures, within, you know, big organizations, is now being leveraged within the work that I'm doing for LanzaJet in delivering sustainable aviation fuel projects.

So thinking about when we're going to set these projects up, how are we working with the local custodians of the lands that we're setting these projects up on, how are we, you know, making sure there's a revenue sharing model with the local people, really making sure that we're thinking about not just commercial benefit, but environmental, biodiversity and people benefit as well in the way that we're rolling out these projects.

So it's really exciting to start adapting my knowledge in all of my previous career positions to now elevate the LanzaJet product and service.

So, yeah, there's a lot to deliver this year.

Another exciting year.

Yeah, I love that.

I think it's really interesting when you do change roles or go into something new.

You don't realize the experience that you've got that.

Oh, actually, yeah, this can apply here.

This is really relevant so that's so cool that it's bringing together and I feel like the more.

Yeah.

Experience I have in my career, my work that you.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Actually it all like can be related and can make sense and there's those dots that you can connect going backwards, which early in your career, I think that's a really tricky thing to kind of try and get your head around.

Yeah, agree.

And again, I think a really great call out for our listeners here is sometimes you can't always map your next step to where you are currently or it doesn't make sense or it feels quite disjointed.

And then all of a sudden you've made a few of those kind of random steps in your career and you look back and you're wow, I've got this incredible perspective and I've learned this about that certain role and now in my future role because I've already seen it and I've seen it applied in a different context to all the other people around me.

Your, your skills, your experience, like your unique perspective really is highly valuable in so many different contexts then.

So yeah, I guess that's a quick shout out to everybody.

You know, sometimes a move can be really random and can be very left field.

But certainly from my experience, every left field role that I've ever has just added more and more uniqueness, knowledge, skills and just appreciation for what my path has been to be able to kind of give back and, and move forward on other projects.

So it's an exciting time.

Good.

And I really want to call out to the bravery it takes to have a goal, have a dream and then change your mind on it.

Because I've done that on a lot of like for example, I thought, yes, I love public speaking so much.

I want to do that as my full time thing.

And so I did more public speaking and get paid to do it and I still love doing it.

And then I realized it's actually know how I want to spend all of my time because there was other things that came along with a career like that that I didn't enjoy that went in my flow state that I didn't like.

And so I think actually a really important part of goal setting and you know, you know, figuring out what you want is going through that process.

And I think that is just, just part of it.

And I think if you don't commit to it and actually start taking action and discovering what it is to achieve that goal, then it just becomes this hope in this dream that doesn't actually materialize into a Reality and actually going down that path and going, oh, I tried it.

It wasn't the right fit.

Okay, now I'm going to do something different is part of the goal process.

I really want to call it out, Renee, because I think that's really important part of it and it takes a lot of courage.

Yeah.

And to that point, yeah, it's funny, in July last year, you know, the Australian Financial Review published the article when I won the AFR Boss Young Executives Award.

And it said, you know, this CEO hopeful doesn't to just become a CEO.

She wants to become an astronaut.

That was literally the title put all across the Australian Financial Review.

And now potentially, I'm backing down from that goal.

So, you know, it is.

It is.

There is a bit of pressure and it does take a bit of bravery to really lock in.

And all of that comes from really trusting your gut.

Like, where do you want to put your energy?

Where are you finding the most enjoyment?

How do you set yourself up so that every day is an exciting day for you because you get to put your energy into stuff that you really want to show up for?

So.

And then it's.

Yeah, it's funny to think, oh, you know, that's so easy to do, right?

Like, oh, I said I was going to do this, and it was in the paper.

Like, that's very public that that was out there.

But also then, are you going to live your life?

Because there was some article that got published.

What a silly.

Yeah, exactly.

So good.

I love this.

This has been awesome.

We were going to get into dms, but I think we haven't.

We've run out of time.

We'll have to get into DMS the next episode.

So there's a bit of an enticer for our next episode.

Any final thoughts on goal setting the year ahead?

Top tips for people.

You've never set goals.

Where should you even start anything like that that you want to share with people?

Well, I think, you know, New Year's Eve is always that time for reflection.

And then, you know, early 2025 is really kind of that month where you think about, am I.

What am I going to achieve this year?

What do I really want to set myself up?

And maybe not everybody is in that routine yet, but I really find January is the perfect time to kind of sit down, post the mad rush of Christmas and running around to see friends and family.

So first of all, I would encourage people to take a couple of hours, go and sit down in a quiet space, get out your journal and just think about who am I?

What do I want to achieve this year?

And then what steps do I need to start taking to really action those?

Because I think that that's going to add just so much value to your purpose, to your why, to understanding how you're going to actually, you know, put in place and take the action that you want to feel good about yourself.

Because I think that's ultimately why we do these exercises is we want to know how we're spending our time, we want to feel intentional and we want purpose because that's what really motivates everybody.

So start small.

I know.

I think goal setting can feel very intimidating and it can make you feel like you need to have really big things on there, like, you know, finish your degree or start a degree or you know, find a relationship that's worth having or, you know, start that business.

They don't have to be huge milestones.

They could be really small things.

Like I want to put myself first, I want to get really good at self care.

So once a month I'm going to go and get a massage.

I'm going to commit to 8,000 steps a day because I need to move my body because I know that makes me feel good.

Like think about and just break down those small goals because I think once you start smashing those small goals, it really elevates your sense of self and then you can start feeling really confident to knock over those huge ones.

So maybe I'll end there.

Felicity, what do you think?

Yeah, I think for me, what's really, I'm really thinking about this year is how do I build the team around me to support myself achieving goals.

And so I've just started working with two new coaches and I think they're so.

They've been so helpful so far at seeing blind spot, helping me identify the things I'm really, really good at.

So a small goal for could be, what am I good at?

It's amazing.

I think the amount of people that I meet that don't know what their strengths are and what they're good at.

So, yeah, for me, I think having that team around you and it might not be a partner.

And for me, because I have my husband who I'm also in business with, who's also the father of our children.

So that's a lot to have in that one relationship.

So having those really, you could say committed listener is one way I've heard it phrased before.

It could be a psychologist who's on your team that can help you throughout this year with those goals.

So I think it's great.

Have that reflection time and then, yeah, share with someone.

And it's been so helpful.

I just had a coaching call this morning and my coach was saying, oh, do you know these are your strengths?

And that's really, really powerful and going, oh, yeah, I'm good at that.

I totally forgot about that.

So that would be my kind of key thing to think about for people of great, you've set some goals or you've got a goal in mind.

Who's that support crew?

Who's that team around you?

And that's what we're thinking about coming into our free one day leadership training as well.

So it's happening on the 8th of February in Brisbane.

It's completely free.

We'd love to as many people as possible from the community there.

That's a great time to have that reflection to think about the year ahead, to get ready for leadership, figure out what is it for you in your leadership next year that you want to take on and actually find those people around you as well.

So if you're keen to come along, go to We Aspire Education and you'll find the free one day uplift leadership training there in Brisbane.

And that's a great way as well to set yourself up happily for the year.

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And as always, you know, come on the journey with us for 2025.

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We're here to be a part of your team and to elevate you and make sure that you're thinking outside of the box when it comes to getting promoted and being incredible when you get there.

So thanks for joining today and welcome back for another great year.

Felicity.

We'll see if we've achieved these goals at the end of the year.

You guys, amazing listeners, can hold us accountable.

Tell us what your goals are to send them in.

We'd love to hear from you and we'll see you in the episode.

Renee, thanks so much.

See you there.