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Emily:Hey there. Thanks for joining us today. In today's
Emily:episode, we are talking about how to turn your individual
Emily:procedures into routines that actually stick, and sharing a
Emily:teacher approved tip for handling your own routines.
Heidi:Let's start with a try it tomorrow, where we share a quick
Heidi:win to help you boost your classroom community. Emily, what
Heidi:is our suggestion for this week?
Emily:Well, if you haven't already, take a couple minutes
Emily:during your prep time today to set up a table to track positive
Emily:communication for each student. A simple way to do this is to
Emily:list students' names down the side and then have a column for
Emily:each month. Then it's easy to keep track of which families
Emily:you've reached out to recently. Making communication with
Emily:families a positive experience and not just something that
Emily:happens when there's trouble, can go a long way to
Emily:strengthening the school home partnership. And I can vouch for
Emily:this from the parent side, that I hate feeling like every time I
Emily:see an email from a teacher that something must be wrong. So it
Emily:would be great if sometimes it's positive communication as well.
Heidi:Well, if you like this idea or anything else that we
Heidi:share on the podcast, would you take a second and give us a five
Heidi:star rating? Ratings and reviews are one way that new listeners
Heidi:find us. So really, truly, every rating and review is a huge help
Heidi:to us.
Emily:So if you've been listening for a while, you know
Emily:that we are big believers, that almost seems like an
Emily:understatement, huge fans of strong classroom procedures. We
Emily:have talked a lot about how to design them, how to teach them,
Emily:using our tell try tally talk method, and how to course
Emily:correct when they slide.
Heidi:But, this might be hard to believe, there is actually
Heidi:one part of procedures that we have never tackled. How do you
Heidi:take all of those individual procedures that you have been
Heidi:working so hard to teach and link them into routines that
Heidi:your students can actually follow? And today we're going to
Heidi:tell you how to make those routines stick without having to
Heidi:turn into the nagging police.
Emily:So think of a single procedure as one Lego brick. It
Emily:does what it needs to do, but if you want something that really
Emily:works for you, like a smooth morning start, you need to snap
Emily:those bricks together.
Heidi:I love that analogy, and that's perfect for your Lego
Heidi:family.
Emily:Yes.
Heidi:A routine is a string of procedures in a set order that
Heidi:is done so often that it runs on autopilot. The goal is that the
Heidi:brain doesn't have to think. It just does.
Emily:Think back to how you taught your individual
Emily:procedures. If you used our tell try tally talk method—are we
Emily:going to start calling that the 4T method? Are we going to, I
Emily:don't know, but we'll stick with tell try tally talk. If you used
Emily:our method, you clearly explained the procedure and
Emily:modeled each step. You had your students try it out with your
Emily:guidance, you tallied how everything went and celebrated
Emily:progress, and then you talked over what worked, what was
Emily:tricky, what practice was needed.
Heidi:That method works beautifully for individual
Heidi:procedures, but let's dive into how to connect those procedures
Heidi:into a seamless routine. This time we will use a three step
Heidi:process of anchoring, expanding and reinforcing.
Emily:Wait, but there's no alliteration in that one.
Heidi:I feel like we're really letting the side down. It all
Heidi:has an "ing," does that count?
Emily:Okay. That is something, I guess. But you know we love a
Emily:process, so let's look at the first step in this new process,
Emily:which is anchoring. This is where you pick one solid
Emily:procedure that's already working well and use it as the
Emily:foundation for the whole routine. Think of this as the
Emily:core of your routine. It's the one thing that, when it's in
Emily:place makes everything else easier.
Heidi:For a morning routine, this might be students unpacking
Heidi:their backpacks correctly. For transitions, it could be having
Heidi:students respond quickly to your attention signal.
Emily:So the key here is to choose something that's already
Emily:pretty solid. Don't try to anchor a routine to a procedure
Emily:that is still wobbly. You want your strongest procedure as your
Emily:foundation.
Heidi:And here's where a lot of teachers get tripped up. They
Heidi:try to teach the entire morning routine as one giant procedure.
Heidi:And I have done this myself, but let me tell you friends, that's
Heidi:like trying to swallow a watermelon whole.
Emily:Oh, that sounds miserable. That's gonna end
Emily:badly. If your morning routine includes coming into the
Emily:building, entering the classroom, unpacking backpacks,
Emily:making lunch choices, getting materials, starting morning
Emily:work, and knowing what to do while waiting for others, that
Emily:is not one procedure. That's like seven procedures that have
Emily:to happen in sequence.
Heidi:And when you look at it that way, it's no wonder that
Heidi:your kids are having a hard time following through. They just
Heidi:can't master that many steps in one go. A good rule of thumb is
Heidi:that if a procedure has more than about five steps or so,
Heidi:give or take, it's time to break it down. The smaller you can
Heidi:make each task, the more deeply students can internalize it.
Emily:And when they're shorter, they're faster to teach too. So
Emily:that's just a little win. Okay, so identify the Keystone
Emily:procedure in each routine and go all in on making it run like
Emily:clockwork. That is the first step. Then you can start
Emily:expanding. This means adding the next logical step in the
Emily:sequence.
Heidi:If unpacking backpacks is your anchor to your morning
Heidi:routine, the next step might be making your lunch choice without
Heidi:having to be reminded. That used to kill me every day. How many
Heidi:days are we in school? Anyway, you want that to be automatic,
Heidi:and then you would teach that procedure separately, right?
Heidi:Tell try tally talk, until it's solid.
Emily:Then you'd start connecting them in your
Emily:student's mind. The students already know how to do each
Emily:piece, but you're helping them see how it all flows together.
Emily:So first unpack your backpack using our five steps, then make
Emily:your lunch choice using our three steps.
Heidi:Keep expanding one procedure at a time until you
Heidi:have built the full routine. You know, plan on this taking at
Heidi:least two weeks. That is totally normal, and it's to be expected.
Emily:If things start to fall apart as you're connecting
Emily:procedures, pull back for a minute and try to pinpoint the
Emily:issue, instead of plowing ahead, because you want this all done
Emily:and out of your hair.
Heidi:Oh, yes, figuring out a problem now will save you from
Heidi:having to deal with it for nine more months.
Heidi:And that brings us to the final step, which is reinforcing. This
Heidi:is where the magic happens, because this is when your
Heidi:routine moves from something we do because the teacher told us
Heidi:to, to something we just do.
Emily:This is the point where your routine will either take
Emily:off or fizzle out. The goal is to train your students brains to
Emily:run this sequence without you prompting them every step of the
Emily:way, and that only happens with intentional, repeated
Emily:reinforcement.
Heidi:Think of it like teaching kids to tie their shoes. If
Heidi:you've ever lived through that, you don't just show them once
Heidi:and then expect them to do it perfectly every time. You have
Heidi:to practice a lot.
Emily:Yep, and it's going to take a lot of practice with your
Emily:routines too. But that doesn't mean it has to be drudgery. Have
Emily:some fun with it. You could set up a bingo board or a tic tac
Emily:toe board with all of the different procedures that make
Emily:up your dismissal routine. Every time they complete one part of
Emily:the routine without needing instructions from you, they get
Emily:to cross off a square. If they get a bingo or a tic tac toe,
Emily:they get a small reward, and when the whole board is full,
Emily:they get a larger reward.
Heidi:Yeah, we want to make sure that practice doesn't start
Heidi:feeling like a punishment. Another thing that I like to do
Heidi:with my students was to time them. I would say something
Heidi:like, okay, yesterday, it took two minutes and 28 seconds for
Heidi:everyone to get their notebooks put away and come to the rug. I
Heidi:think we can do it faster. Can we do it in two minutes? Kids
Heidi:love racing. And the nice thing about this is that it can
Heidi:motivate them to kind of push each other to move more quickly,
Heidi:so you're not the one having to, you know, nudge them along.
Heidi:Let's let that positive peer pressure work in your favor.
Emily:If you are doing whole class rewards for practicing
Emily:routines or anything else, don't let a few kids ruin it for
Emily:everyone. If you've got one or two little ones with some
Emily:special behavior challenges, like maybe they'll go slow on
Emily:purpose, just because everyone else wants them to hurry, then
Emily:you can just kind of take them out of the equation.
Heidi:Right. If all but your two most challenging darlings
Heidi:are at the carpet, count that as a win. Way to hustle, everyone,
Heidi:you made it to the carpet in one minute and 58 seconds. And then
Heidi:when someone raises their hand to point out that Dimitri still
Heidi:isn't at the carpet, just make it a non issue. You know what,
Heidi:you worry about you and I will worry about Dimitri.
Emily:Yeah, especially because getting attention for it is
Emily:probably exactly what Dimitri wants. And it's just a good
Emily:reminder that most of our management plans will work for
Emily:most of our kids most of the time. So put your focus there.
Emily:You can set up a personalized plan for Dimitri at a different
Emily:time, but it will only make things worse if we turn him into
Emily:the class scapegoat. That's not good for anyone.
Heidi:And besides making routine practice fun, you can
Heidi:also reinforce your expectations by turning it over to the
Heidi:students. Try assigning helpers for routine checks. Have a
Heidi:materials monitor who reminds classmates about getting their
Heidi:pencils, or a line leader who models proper hallway behavior.
Emily:That's nice, because then you're not having to oversee
Emily:everything that happens. And when routines start to slide,
Emily:because they will, especially after a long weekend or a
Emily:holiday, go back to practicing them just like a sports team
Emily:runs drills.
Heidi:Don't feel like you have failed if you need to reteach a
Heidi:routine. This is something honestly that I struggled with.
Heidi:I used to see this as a failure as a teacher, but it is just a
Heidi:predictable part of dealing with kids. They need repetition, and
Heidi:sometimes you need to refresh those neural pathways to get
Heidi:everyone back on track.
Emily:Now you likely have dozens of routines needed to
Emily:make your classroom run, but it's important that you're
Emily:putting a lot of time and energy into streamlining what we call
Emily:the core four, and these are the routines that truly make or
Emily:break your school day.
Heidi:And if you have taught before, you can probably guess
Heidi:what these are, but they are a calm morning start, orderly
Heidi:hallway movement, controlled transitions, and efficient end
Heidi:of day routines. If you can master these four, everything
Heidi:else in your day becomes so much easier.
Emily:So let's walk through what it looks like to anchor,
Emily:expand and reinforce our core four routines. And we'll kick
Emily:things off with a calm morning start.
Heidi:For your morning routine, your anchor might be getting the
Heidi:backpack procedure down. Once that's solid, you expand it with
Heidi:lunch choice, then getting materials, then starting morning
Heidi:work. Each step gets taught and practiced separately before you
Heidi:try to link them.
Emily:When it comes to reinforcing your morning
Emily:routine, visual supports are your best friend. Post the steps
Emily:of each routine where students can reference them, or where you
Emily:can send students to check if they've forgotten something.
Heidi:Yeah, you definitely want to outsource the work of keeping
Heidi:kids on track as much as possible. So let a display help
Heidi:you out. You could make a chart or project slides each morning
Heidi:with the steps that you want students to follow. I was very
Heidi:analog. I used sentence strips and magnets to put them on my
Heidi:board because I didn't want to have to write it out every day.
Emily:Yep, I did the same thing, and it definitely does
Emily:not need to be fancy. So just make sure you're posting them
Emily:where kids can see them every single day, even in the middle
Emily:of May, and that they're going to know exactly where to look
Emily:each time. It's always going to be in the same place.
Heidi:And if they ask you what they're supposed to be doing,
Heidi:point them to the display, so they get in the habit of
Heidi:checking that instead of turning to you for the answers.
Emily:Exactly.
Heidi:Morning routines have to run without much teacher input
Heidi:because you're busy handling your own routine of getting the
Heidi:day started. Those posted steps give kids a way to stay on track
Heidi:without needing you to prompt every single thing.
Emily:If you want a deeper dive, maybe the deepest of
Emily:dives, on morning routines, check out our three part Morning
Emily:Routine series, which is in episodes 93, 94 and 95 where we
Emily:talk about how to set up your own morning routines, as well as
Emily:your students.
Heidi:For the next in our core four routines is hallway
Heidi:movement, and you might anchor this one with the signal to line
Heidi:up. Then you can expand to walking without talking, then
Heidi:how to walk while you're carrying supplies, and then what
Heidi:to do when you arrive at your destination.
Emily:Reinforcing your hallway routine can be a lot of fun. So
Emily:try announcing that you've chosen a mystery walker. If this
Emily:student remembers your procedures as you travel to your
Emily:destination, they'll get a prize, and it's easier to watch
Emily:this if you like our strategy for walking at the back of your
Emily:class instead of at the front.
Heidi:That does make it simpler, or you can get real
Heidi:good at walking backwards.
Emily:Yes, you know, both are good skills to have.
Heidi:The prize for the mystery walker can be as simple as a
Heidi:high five or a sticker. It's the mystery of it all, not the prize
Heidi:that is going to be most influential on getting your
Heidi:students to meet your expectations. And another fun
Heidi:idea is called line freeze. Ashley from Rainbow Skies for
Heidi:Teachers, shared this with us back in episode 120.
Emily:Oh, and you should definitely go back and listen to
Emily:that so you can hear it in her delightful Australian accent.
Emily:But basically it's a bit like red light, green light. You lead
Emily:your line down the hall normally at the front of the line, but
Emily:every once in a while, you flip around and look at the kids.
Emily:Their goal is to freeze in place as soon as you turn.
Heidi:That is a really fun game, and it's perfect for the
Heidi:hallway because it can be done silently. Ashley says that she
Heidi:has done it with kids from kindergarten to sixth grade, and
Heidi:that they all enjoy it. So give that one a try if you want to
Heidi:add a little whimsy to your hallway routine.
Emily:And go back to check out episode 89 if you want even more
Emily:hallway tips.
Emily:But for now, let's look at how to handle your transition
Emily:routines. A good place to start here is by anchoring your
Emily:attention signal. When that's solid, expand into listening for
Emily:all the directions before they start moving, cleaning up
Emily:workspaces, then getting materials for the next activity,
Emily:and then transitioning to the new location quickly.
Heidi:And we did another three part deep, deep dive in episodes
Heidi:48, 49 and 50. This one happened to be on transitions this time
Heidi:because, as you may have noticed, they are tricky, and
Heidi:they can eat up a lot of your learning time. So revisit those
Heidi:episodes, and also check out episode 160 if you want tips for
Heidi:our final core routine, dismissal.
Emily:This one is hard because you are so tired by this point
Emily:in the day. So do what you can to automate this routine as much
Emily:as possible. You could anchor it with your procedure for tidying
Emily:up desks, then expand to getting take home materials, then
Emily:packing backpacks and then getting ready for dismissal.
Heidi:The end of the day is a great time to add in some
Heidi:student ownership as reinforcement. Besides regular
Heidi:class jobs like sharpening pencils, you can assign students
Heidi:to hand out papers, pass out lunch boxes, check that everyone
Heidi:cleaned under their desk, and really, anything else that the
Heidi:kids are capable of doing, make them do it.
Emily:For sure, don't take it on yourself to do all of the
Emily:work. And the beauty of this approach is that once these
Emily:routines are solid, your classroom really does start to
Emily:run like clockwork.
Heidi:Now this does take a lot of time and energy and
Heidi:intention. I want to be clear about that, because we know how
Heidi:much work this is, but we promise solid routines are worth
Heidi:it, even if they're not your favorite thing to teach.
Emily:I know, no one goes into teaching because they love
Emily:procedures. Although maybe we do. Do we? We talk about them a
Emily:lot, maybe we do.
Heidi:I didn't start out loving procedures, like, I got there
Heidi:once I saw what they could do for me.
Emily:That's I was gonna say. I think we love procedures because
Emily:we love what they give you as a teacher. And obviously, no
Emily:student says their favorite part of school is your efficient
Emily:dismissal routine.
Heidi:But it would be nice if they pointed that out. But it's
Heidi:procedures and the routines that they create that are going to
Heidi:make the good parts of teaching, the stuff you like, possible.
Heidi:They enable you to be the kind of teacher you want to be.
Heidi:They're what create consistency so students feel safe and know
Heidi:what to expect. They prevent problems by minimizing
Heidi:opportunities for kids to test your limits, and they free you
Heidi:up to focus on your students instead of logistics.
Emily:So let's wrap up with a quick recap of how to turn
Emily:procedures into routines that stick. First, anchor your
Emily:routine to one solid procedure that's already working well,
Emily:then expand by adding one procedure at a time until you've
Emily:built the full sequence. Finally, reinforce the routine
Emily:as a whole, not just the individual steps.
Heidi:Focus on your core four routines—morning start, hallway
Heidi:movement, classroom transitions, and end of day. These make or
Heidi:break your classroom flow. So look for opportunities to
Heidi:reinforce your expectations, so students will want to meet them.
Emily:And remember that this will take time. Plan on at least
Emily:two weeks for the basic structures to stick, but there
Emily:will still be a period of watching and reinforcing before
Emily:it becomes truly automatic.
Heidi:And we would love to hear how you're building routines
Heidi:this year. Come join the conversation in our Teacher
Heidi:Approved Facebook group.
Emily:Now for our Teacher Approved Tip of the Week, where
Emily:we share an actionable tip to help you elevate what matters
Emily:and simplify the rest. This week's teacher approved tip is
Emily:to create your own routines. So tell us about this, Heidi.
Heidi:Well, have you ever noticed how satisfying it is
Heidi:when your own personal routines just click? Like when you
Heidi:develop that evening routine where you prep everything for
Heidi:the next day, and then morning you feels like you have gained a
Heidi:superpower. Well, let's lean into that. This week, pick one
Heidi:routine in your personal life that's feeling a little chaotic
Heidi:and apply the same anchoring, expanding and reinforcing
Heidi:approach we talked about today.
Emily:So maybe that'll be your after school routine, or your
Emily:Sunday meal prep, or even just how you unwind in the evening.
Emily:Start with one solid step that's already working and then build
Emily:from there.
Heidi:And we did talk about teacher morning routines as part
Heidi:of our morning routine deep dive. So the ones that focus on
Heidi:teachers specifically are episodes 93, which is your
Heidi:getting out the door morning routine, and episode 94 that's
Heidi:like, once you get to school morning routine. So definitely
Heidi:check those out. And just like with your students, give
Heidi:yourself time to practice and adjust. Those neuronal pathways
Heidi:need repetition at home, too.
Emily:The best part is that when your personal routines are
Emily:running smoothly, you'll have more mental energy for all of
Emily:the amazing teaching you want to do.
Heidi:All right, to wrap up the show, we're sharing what we're
Heidi:giving extra credit to this week. Emily, what gets your
Heidi:extra credit?
Emily:I'm giving us credit to the Good Hang podcast with Amy
Emily:Poehler. Have you listened to this, Heidi?
Heidi:I haven't. It keeps showing up in my feed, so I've
Heidi:been meaning to, I just haven't had a chance yet.
Emily:Same, and I just barely started listening a couple days
Emily:ago, and it has exceeded my expectations. I think Amy might
Emily:have been born to be a podcaster, not an actress. I
Emily:like her as an actress, too, to be clear.
Heidi:I keep getting ads for her master class on improv, and
Heidi:she's so delightful. I keep thinking, do I need to take a
Heidi:master class on improv? I don't want to do improv, but she's so
Heidi:fun.
Emily:Be worth it to hang out with Amy. And usually I don't
Emily:care to watch video podcasts. I just want to listen to a
Emily:podcast. But I got fed one of these on YouTube, and I was
Emily:like, Oh, this is so fun. And so now I just kind of have it on in
Emily:the corner while I'm working the last few days, and it's been so
Emily:fun. And seriously, every episode is genuinely a good
Emily:hang. And one thing I love that she does is at the beginning of
Emily:each episode, she does a video chat with someone she knows who
Emily:also knows her guest for the episode, and then they say good
Emily:things about the guests behind their backs.
Heidi:That is so fun!
Emily:It's so cute. So like, before she talked to Andy
Emily:Samberg, she called Seth Meyers, and they talked about him, and
Emily:like, how they got to know him and what they love about him.
Emily:And then Seth, like, gave her an idea for a joke to play on Andy.
Emily:And it was just fun. It was so cute.
Heidi:That's such a fun way to introduce a guest.
Emily:I know, it just felt so, it's just wholesome and fun, and
Emily:it just makes me smile. So if you need a mood booster, check
Emily:out the Good Hang podcast.
Heidi:Well, I'll definitely have to try that out, because
Heidi:I'm going to be working for quite a while today.
Emily:Yeah, pull it up. Start with the Adam Scott episode,
Emily:because you're a Parks and Rec-er. So start with that one,
Emily:even though you haven't watched Severance, so you won't get all
Emily:the Severance talk, it's still worth it to hear them talk about
Emily:Ben and Leslie is just so cute.
Heidi:They're so good. I do love that. Okay, I'll definitely
Heidi:have to check that out.
Emily:Okay, let me know what you think. What's getting your
Emily:extra credit?
Heidi:Well, I'm giving extra credit to the Lady Stacks
Heidi:Ultimate Book Tracker.
Emily:Ooh, it sounds fancy.
Heidi:Now, I haven't been someone who keeps track of my
Heidi:reading, because when I tried, I would get too caught up on how
Heidi:much or how little I was reading, and then it would start
Heidi:to feel like a chore, or that I was being graded and I was
Heidi:failing somehow. So I had to stop doing that. But I kept
Heidi:seeing ads. I'm so susceptible for ads, apparently.
Emily:Apparently.
Heidi:But I kept getting ads for this digital reading
Heidi:tracker. And 100% I have to say, I only bought it because I was
Heidi:trying to figure out how this person, Lady Stacks, how she
Heidi:managed to get the images to work well in Google Sheets,
Heidi:because it's a whole, you get a whole little like library image,
Heidi:but it's all in Google Sheets. And I have to say, I could not
Heidi:figure it out, because those tabs are locked.
Emily:Oh, dang it.
Heidi:But it turns out that it has been fun to play around with
Heidi:just putting in my own reading. So what you do is you type your
Heidi:book titles on one tab and then a little book is added to your
Heidi:cute library picture on the next tab.
Emily:Oh, cute.
Heidi:It's very satisfying. I love seeing my little library
Heidi:grow, and there's lots of info, like page totals and graphs. I
Heidi:haven't been on story graph because I know a lot of people
Heidi:use that instead of good reads, so I think it might be similar
Heidi:to that. But I don't know that you get to make a cute library
Heidi:in story graphs.
Emily:I bet not. And I the reason I haven't switched to
Emily:story graph is I don't think it's free, and I don't want to
Emily:pay.
Heidi:Oh, that's annoying.
Emily:Well, not, I'll pay for something. I just don't want to
Emily:pay continuously for a tool. I could be wrong, though. The
Emily:people listening may be like, No, it's, you don't have to pay
Emily:for it. I have no idea. I should have probably checked that
Emily:before I made that statement, but it sticks in my head that
Emily:that's why I didn't switch over, was like, Oh, I don't want to
Emily:pay for it.
Heidi:That's good to know. Well, I did have to pay for the
Heidi:book tracker, but it has been fun. I thought, Oh, I could make
Heidi:a new sheet for each year and have my little library just
Heidi:built up, so.
Emily:That's so cute. I'm definitely gonna check it out. I
Emily:do use Goodreads, but there isn't an easy, satisfying way
Emily:to, like, see everything you've read. It's kind of utilitarian.
Emily:And I also get stressed out in Goodreads about the reviews,
Emily:because I feel I overthink the stars, because sometimes, well,
Emily:I really enjoyed this. So it's like a four star, but really
Emily:it's the writing's not that great, the story's not that
Emily:great. It's probably more like a three star, but I liked it. So,
Emily:you know, I just spend too much effort on that. Plus, I feel so
Emily:guilty ever giving anybody.
Heidi:I know it's hard.
Emily:Like, less than, yeah, I feel bad every time I give even
Emily:a three star. I'm like, Oh, I'm such a jerk. So.
Heidi:Well, now you can rate lowly in private. No one will
Heidi:ever see it.
Emily:There we go. Okay, I'll check it out.
Heidi:And there's a link in the show notes if anyone else wants
Heidi:to check it out.
Heidi:That's it for today's episode. Remember our three steps for
Heidi:connecting your individual procedures into smooth running
Heidi:classroom routines, and then you can try out those same steps to
Heidi:your own routines.
Heidi:We hope you enjoyed this episode of Teacher Approved. I'm Heidi.
Emily:And I'm Emily. Thank you for listening. Be sure to follow
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Heidi:You can connect with us and other teachers in the
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Heidi:Bye for now.
Emily:Bye.