Doctor Adrian seven is a doctor of cosmetology from the National Institute of Cosmetology.
Speaker AHe's the lead hair for D.C.
Speaker Afashion Week and works on all kinds of reality shows.
Speaker AHe's Also done Patti LaBelle, Naomi Campbell, worked on BET, Good Morning America, and even the White House as a small business specialist.
Speaker AHe provides beauty consulting services and training at both McKenna Jordan Salon Bar in Maryland and RVM Salons in Los Angeles.
Speaker AToday we're going to hear his story, how he got to where he is and everything that we need to know.
Speaker AWelcome back to the Hair.
Speaker AJust a strong show.
Speaker AMy name is Robert Hughes, and I am your host.
Speaker AAnd Today I'm with Dr.
Speaker AAdrian Seven.
Speaker AHow are you doing today, Dr.
Speaker AAdrian Seven?
Speaker BI am fine.
Speaker BAnd thank you for that fantastic introduction.
Speaker BI mean, like, I could not have asked for something better.
Speaker BYou were fantastic.
Speaker BYou just hit it spot on.
Speaker BAnd I'm so happy and grateful to be here with you all today.
Speaker BI'm fine.
Speaker BLike good wine, you know, better with.
Speaker AAge, you know, Man, I love that.
Speaker AI'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm.
Speaker AI just turned 40 this year or last year, I guess last year.
Speaker AAnd I'm definitely starting to embrace that.
Speaker BYou know, welcome to 40.
Speaker BThey say 40 is the new 20, especially AI and all these new things we have supporting us.
Speaker BSo, you know what I mean?
Speaker BLet's embrace the newness of longevity because we now have new age technology that gives us the ability to.
Speaker BBut now we live a youthful life even at this time, because our parents were different.
Speaker BSo I'm, like, grateful to be in the number at this point in, you know, history or the evolution of earthlings.
Speaker AWell, thank you for coming on the show.
Speaker AI want to give our listeners and viewers some context.
Speaker ASo we got a chance to do some press for D.C.
Speaker Afashion Week, and we were standing outside of the changing room asking the people that work there, saying, hey, if there are any beauty professionals out there, we'd love to do little interviews.
Speaker AAnd that's where we got to meet Dr.
Speaker AAdrian Seven.
Speaker AAnd I read your.
Speaker AI got your bio from your.
Speaker AFrom your.
Speaker AThe people that you work with that helped set this up.
Speaker AAnd it is so extensive and amazing, and I just can't.
Speaker AI just want to hear, like, how, like, there's so much to you're doing.
Speaker AYou know, you're a doctor.
Speaker AI feel like normally I start with, how'd you get started in the industry?
Speaker ABut I kind of want to just get this part out of the way because I'm sure there's Plenty of viewers and listeners wanting to know.
Speaker ADr.
Speaker AAdrian Seven, would you tell us a little bit about what that means?
Speaker ALike, how did you become a doctor?
Speaker AWhat is your doctorate in?
Speaker ATell us.
Speaker AYou know, anything that you can share on that topic.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker BThank you all so much for asking.
Speaker BAnd I got my doctorate through the National Beauty Cultures League Institute of Cosmetology, which was Created by Madam C.J.
Speaker Bwalker, which she instituted, if you've seen the movie, that convention still goes on today.
Speaker BAnd they created the National Beauty Cultures League.
Speaker BOut of that, created the National Institute of Cosmetology, which has a degree program where beauty professionals can matriculate and get professional degrees in the beauty industry.
Speaker BI was a guest instructor with KVL products teaching because manufacturers teach at their conventions.
Speaker BThey have every year.
Speaker BI found out about the program and started teaching in the institute.
Speaker BAnd because I was teaching, I was able to start taking classes.
Speaker BWell, I have a bachelor's degree in mass communications.
Speaker BI went to college first.
Speaker BMy parents told me to go to college.
Speaker BI got a degree, but I've always loved doing hair.
Speaker BSo when I got into the Beauty Institute, because I had a degree already, a bachelor's degree, plus other experiences and classes I took, I was able to graduate with my master's.
Speaker BMadam C.J.
Speaker Bwalker's granddaughter spoke at that graduation.
Speaker BAnd then I was able to take the doctoral classes online because when Covid happened, you can take the classes online.
Speaker BAnd it just so happened I got it.
Speaker BSo it was almost like fell in my lap kind of thing, you know, I wasn't looking for it.
Speaker BIt just happened to me, you know, So I just embraced it.
Speaker AWell, congratulations.
Speaker AThat's awesome.
Speaker ABecause, like, that is a legitimate and legitimate accolade right there.
Speaker ASo I don't.
Speaker ACan't I.
Speaker AYou know, it's.
Speaker AIt's crazy.
Speaker AI had a friend who's a salon owner, and he said.
Speaker AHe said he's always surprised at how much I know and how much I don't know.
Speaker AAnd something that I didn't know about was that you could get advanced degrees in cosmetology.
Speaker AAnd I think that that is fascinating.
Speaker ASo, like, in your.
Speaker AIn your studies, when if you're.
Speaker AIf someone wanted to, even if they weren't going for a doctorate, maybe they were just going for a lower level degree, but in cosmetology, because they wanted to enhance themselves and what, for whatever reason, like, are you learning things like business and money and stuff like that?
Speaker ABecause, like, what I'm seeing the cosmetology students learn, they're, you know, they're learning the state board stuff, which the state board really only is there for safety.
Speaker AI mean, the schools try to teach more, but like at the end of the day, students don't graduate with the some of the foundational like concepts of business, customer service, financial literacy.
Speaker AIs that something that you're learning at this institute?
Speaker BIt's so funny you asked that.
Speaker BAnd yes it is.
Speaker BAnd I know how you feel because I felt that way when I came on as a guest instructor.
Speaker BI saw all these people with white lab coats going to classes and getting their degrees.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, how come I never knew about this?
Speaker BAnd they would be at the Bronner Brothers show with the booth set up.
Speaker BBut they were a very prestigious organization.
Speaker BMost of the people that have degrees from this place are like the people that do the state board testing, people that are over the national education of, you know, they're on education boards.
Speaker BSo most of them are in the academia space and they own the buildings that we work in.
Speaker BLike a lot of them who have their doctorate own buildings in D.C.
Speaker Bthat other hairdressers work out of.
Speaker BAnd a lot of them are like 70, 80 years old.
Speaker BSo it's an older organization who kind of, it's still around, but they're not as modernized as we are today.
Speaker BAnd so when I found out about it, I just started getting in.
Speaker BAnd you're taking classes like professional development.
Speaker BYou're also taking like six figure salary formula.
Speaker BYou're also taking haircutting.
Speaker BYou're also taking like scalp hair and scalp disorders.
Speaker BYou're also taking classes like on how to build a business.
Speaker BYou're also taking classes on boundaries.
Speaker BYou're also taking classes on critical thinking.
Speaker BSo there's a lot that goes, we read a lot of personal development.
Speaker BLike if you come and get to know these people and know me and everybody know like we definitely study and earn these degrees.
Speaker BAnd these aren't no hereby fly.
Speaker BYou're taking great courses.
Speaker BAnd it happens once a year.
Speaker BSo you go from freshmen.
Speaker BFreshman classes aren't like sophomore classes, senior classes.
Speaker BAnd it's usually most people you go through four years.
Speaker BNow I was fortunate enough because when I came in they accepted my degrees.
Speaker BBut there was a time before where if you already had a degree, you still had to matriculate back from freshman all the way.
Speaker BSo you would have to wait 8 to 12 years to get your degree.
Speaker BBut you are taking business classes, English classes, math classes, different things.
Speaker BAnd now that we're online, they're making it there.
Speaker BBut it is a very Prestigious older organization.
Speaker BSo think of something your great grandmother would do or your grandparents did, and now their grandkids can kind of have it.
Speaker BBut, you know, people today are in a different space.
Speaker BA client wouldn't really care if you have a doctorate or not.
Speaker BThey just want a great haircut.
Speaker BHowever, when you're working for product companies and when you do, like, I've trained for many hair companies, I've trained all of around the world with them.
Speaker BAnd so these companies honor that because they know you can speak the language, you can go in and be a professional, you can be on time, you can be good attendance, you can have great attire, you can have a great attitude.
Speaker BThose are the things that matter.
Speaker BAnd when you get the big bucks, you can say, oh, it's easy to say $3,000 a day or $5,000 a day, because you bring in the heat.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AThank you so much for that.
Speaker AYou know, we talked to a lot of students and in cosmetology school, and this is total I message that I.
Speaker AI'm so happy that I asked you about this.
Speaker AOkay, so I'm gonna do some research and look into that, and I'm very.
Speaker BAnd I'll send you information for that and everything.
Speaker BAnd the good thing about it is you maybe can shed light on it because it's an older organization, so they're still on paper and pencil and, you know, they're getting up to times because a lot of people who.
Speaker BWho are young, like myself, see the value in the organization, and we're here to preserve it and do those kind of things because it's so good.
Speaker BBut if you look at D.C.
Speaker Bboard, a lot of those people are on there.
Speaker BIf you look at national boards in the States, these are the people you're communicating with, you know.
Speaker ANice.
Speaker AThat's very, very good information to know.
Speaker AOkay, so thank you for that.
Speaker ALet's jump into.
Speaker AHow did you get started in the industry?
Speaker ADid you, like, fall into it?
Speaker ADid you.
Speaker AWere you.
Speaker ADid you always know you wanted to be work in the beauty industry?
Speaker BI always knew since I was three years old.
Speaker BI used to color girls hair in the coloring books.
Speaker BMy cousins gave me a mannequin that I practice on.
Speaker BI would hide it because I grew up in the south and I'm a girlish boy.
Speaker BAnd my parents, they loved me unconditionally.
Speaker BThey never, you know, I never got in trouble for being.
Speaker BBut they would always try to make me be more manly, you know, hey, play with this.
Speaker BGet this.
Speaker BYou know, and so I would always try to get with the girl things.
Speaker BAnd I always just loved the hair part of it.
Speaker BI never was a put the clothes on the doll baby.
Speaker BI just wanted to play with the hair.
Speaker BThat's what's fascinating.
Speaker BI would call a horse's hair.
Speaker BAnd I always did hair.
Speaker BI even.
Speaker BI started charging people to do hair when I was 14.
Speaker BMy parents say by the time I was 16, I made more money than both of them together because I would have a house full of people.
Speaker BLet me tell you, it was nothing.
Speaker BI remember one weekend, it was a college homecoming, and I made $1800 in two days.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker BBlown away?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BDoing hair.
Speaker BAnd so I was like, at that time, it was a lot of work.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BBecause I was charging $40 to do weaves and all of that, but so I've always loved it.
Speaker BBut my parents were big on go to college, get a degree, do that kind of stuff.
Speaker BAnd I did that because I thought, you know, like, this would provide a better life.
Speaker BAnd two years after working into that, I'm like, I make more money doing hair.
Speaker BI was going home to do hair every two weeks because my corporate job wasn't even paying me that much.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, you know what?
Speaker BSeptember 11th happened, and one of my aunts passed away at the Pentagon.
Speaker BNow, the funny story is I was applying to beauty schools in Atlanta.
Speaker BI was living in Atlanta at that time, and I wanted to get away.
Speaker BAnyway, I was tired of a breakup, just wanted a new change, so I wanted to do new.
Speaker BI applied to beauty schools in Atlanta several times, did not hear back from them.
Speaker BI applied to beauty schools all over.
Speaker BLong story short, I applied to Dunlas in D.C.
Speaker Bgot accepted.
Speaker BI applied in November, January, started going to beauty school, and I moved to D.C.
Speaker Bto go to beauty school.
Speaker BAnd I told myself, now this is true.
Speaker BI said, I'm going to apply corporate strategies to hairdressing and do it big.
Speaker BSo I was on the hunt to make a name for myself.
Speaker BI knew that, hey, I've already did that corporate stuff, and it ain't that.
Speaker BLet me do this and do it big, nice.
Speaker BAnd I looked up to did not do great hair.
Speaker BGray hair is not the way.
Speaker BGreat customer service and great attitude and great attendance is the way.
Speaker BI mean, great hair is the way.
Speaker BBut, you know, when you look at some of these things, you look like they look like they could have done their hair, but they need someone to do it, to make it look right now, cotton color and certain things they cannot do and they can't do Their own updos and they can't do their own hair, but they don't need the most elaborate work is what I'm saying.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker AI hear you.
Speaker AYou don't have to.
Speaker AYeah, I hear you.
Speaker AI hear you.
Speaker BSo I knew to let me start doing more what celebrity hair looked like because I was one of those guys where.
Speaker BAnd I'm.
Speaker BI did what was considered ghetto hairstyles.
Speaker BSo I used to do finger waves, waterfalls, if you saw baps, those the kind of hairdos I used to do.
Speaker BSo I was doing hairdos and I realized my market would have to change in order for me to be a celebrity hairdresser.
Speaker BBecause they weren't wearing no waterfalls or finger waves or fashion hairdos.
Speaker BThey were wearing what normal or generic or the masses were wearing.
Speaker BAnd I knew I had to switch up the game.
Speaker BI said, oh, let me start doing the boring hair.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker ASo you, you go to.
Speaker AWell, let's go.
Speaker AI want to unpack something.
Speaker ASo you.
Speaker ASo you end up going to school.
Speaker AYou got out of school.
Speaker ADid you like working?
Speaker ALike, would you work in a salon?
Speaker ADid you go straight out on your own?
Speaker ADid you do.
Speaker BOh, no, no, no.
Speaker BI work.
Speaker BI had the great privilege of working in a salon.
Speaker BIt was called Shaz, my first day assistant.
Speaker BI made 55 in tips and I knew I could do this and so I assisted there.
Speaker BI assisted, got on my feet and then after assisting for a while, I also.
Speaker BWhile I was in beauty.
Speaker BSo I went to beauty school part time because I had to pay for school on my own.
Speaker BSo I needed a full time job.
Speaker BSo I did Shazzy's part time and I worked at Macy's in the cosmetics department at the makeup counter and I learned how to do makeup.
Speaker BSo I was doing makeup and hair and going to school at the same time, like working as assisted going to school and all of that.
Speaker BSo I assisted built up a clientele per se from assisting and accepting the walk ins and the Penny Savers and the coupons and.
Speaker BAnd I would read while I was not busy because I had to work on me.
Speaker BI would read books like the Seven Lively Sins.
Speaker BYou know, another book I read was, you know, it was a book by Florence Shovel Skin called the Game of Life and how to Play It.
Speaker BSo I would be reading books during the slow time.
Speaker BAnd next thing you know, I started building a cl.
Speaker BMy clientele started growing and I wanted to be on a point where I was no longer on commission.
Speaker BI went and wanted to be on boof Rent.
Speaker BSo I Wanted to be on Boof Rent, me.
Speaker BAnd the owner wasn't really seeing eye to eye.
Speaker BSo I moved and went and got on Boof Rent, got on Boof Rent, started working the Boof Rent, started growing that, and then started building a name for myself.
Speaker BWhile I was doing that, I was doing hair shows.
Speaker BHair shows led to hair magazines, and hair magazines led to Patti LaBelle.
Speaker BI started being on tour with her.
Speaker BSo during that time, I was still Boof renting.
Speaker BI was on Tour with Patti LaBelle.
Speaker BSo I would work on the salons when I did not do her hair.
Speaker BThose two years while I was touring, all of that.
Speaker BAnd then I went to do my class reunion because I was my high school's class president.
Speaker BSo when it was time for our 10 year reunion, I wanted to be there with them.
Speaker BAnd so I was like, you know what?
Speaker BOkay, I've had good fun on the road.
Speaker BI invited one of my friends and we started sharing Patti LaBelle as a client and he took over from there.
Speaker BAnd we just kind of.
Speaker BThat's when I got introduced to the White House and other celebrity clients because I was now in a point where I didn't have to leave to go make money because that's what I got kind of tired of.
Speaker BIt's fun in the beginning, but after a while, you're on the first flight out in the morning and you're coming home late at night.
Speaker BSo it was always.
Speaker BAnd you know, it was fun.
Speaker BI went to many places.
Speaker BI've gone to every country almost.
Speaker BI've been all around the world.
Speaker BI would not change it for the world.
Speaker BBut there comes a time when, you know, you grow you.
Speaker BLike, I need more.
Speaker BLike, this ain't enough money for me.
Speaker BThis ain't enough life for me.
Speaker BLike, I need more.
Speaker BAnd I was able to find that outside.
Speaker BAnd so now I only do hair three days a week.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BI've done every kind of hair.
Speaker BNice.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AThat was very great.
Speaker AOkay, so just because we spent a lot of time talking to his students and rising stylists, I want to ask a couple questions.
Speaker ASo you, you.
Speaker AHow long did you work at the salon before you went independent into a booth rental?
Speaker BI worked at the salon about.
Speaker BI would say about a year or two.
Speaker BAnd I would always encourage young assistants and even stylists and people who have assistants.
Speaker BYou should be assistant for about a year to two, and then after that, then you should be working on your own.
Speaker BAnd a stylist should be training a person to be able to Leave in two years.
Speaker BLike, do clients with you, let that person do with you.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BIf you train that person to work with you and you share the commission and it's a win, win situation for everybody involved in the transaction.
Speaker BIt's a win.
Speaker BYou need to come with a plan for them to leave you too, like every two years.
Speaker BAnd so I assisted for about a year and then after that a year or two.
Speaker BAnd as a upcoming stylist, I would always say you need to have a very good support system, like live below your means, stay with your mom and dad, live with an uncle, have a roommate, share be, and do the bare minimum, live below your means.
Speaker BBecause I was staying with the cousin who allowed me to, you know, sleep at our house while I got myself together.
Speaker BBut I got on my feet and when I got myself together together, I am.
Speaker BSo you can't just be living with people or doing whatever and don't have a plan to get it together.
Speaker BYou know, not saying that, you know, I, I would say.
Speaker BAnd so that's what I did.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BI just swallowed and sucked it up.
Speaker BBut I had a plan to, hey, this is going to be my exit strategy, because I need to.
Speaker AAnd where did you.
Speaker AWhere did, where did.
Speaker AWhat would you attribute credit for?
Speaker AIt sounds like your story sounds kind of like if you were to like, ask for like the, like, the advice that is most hurt I give and hear the most is basically everything that you did.
Speaker ASo, like, how, how did you know to like, spend time under someone, go out on your own, get like continuously to grow yourself and read during downtime and, and like, do the, you know, spend the bare minimum while you build yourself.
Speaker ALike, what would you attribute that, knowing how to do that?
Speaker ADid you just come naturally or did someone.
Speaker BOh, I would have to say my parents were a big part of that.
Speaker BMy mom, you know, she was always in my ear, always telling me, very supportive.
Speaker BI have a very supportive family.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BAnd I must say, I stand on their shoulders, the shoulders of giants.
Speaker BMy dad, he always paved the way.
Speaker BMy mom, she's always there.
Speaker BSo my parents were always in my ear.
Speaker BMy mom told me I was an awesome kid and I believed her.
Speaker BSo I always knew to read good books and all of that.
Speaker BMy mom had a rule, if you brought a C home, you're in trouble.
Speaker BSo I knew to read and do my work.
Speaker BAnd also I attribute it to being gay as an openly gay man or a very flamboyant boy in high school.
Speaker BAnd mid grade school, if I hung with the smart kids, they wouldn't bother me.
Speaker BSo I hung out with the smart kids because they didn't tease me, they didn't bother me, they accepted me.
Speaker BAnd I learned a lot.
Speaker BAnd so I would read books.
Speaker BI remember being the editor of my high school newspaper and my.
Speaker BI had a beard in high school like a girlfriend.
Speaker BSo my parents would think I'm not gay, you know what I mean?
Speaker BSo Chantelle would be in like sociology classes and she would introduce me to books and I started collecting quote books and all of that.
Speaker BI would read Iyana Banzan in high school, you know what I mean?
Speaker BAnd so I just had a natural attraction to progress and find the truth for myself because I knew adults had it effed up, especially when I was at kindergarten, they gonna tell me that nonfiction means truth and fiction means make believe.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, well, I thought it goes the other way.
Speaker BIt was so confusing to me.
Speaker BI was like, they crazy.
Speaker BAnd I just knew there was some other truth out there.
Speaker BAnd really that's within it's internal work.
Speaker BReading good books, working on yourself, being the best you finding people that you look up to, modeling their behavior, going after that and working on you every day.
Speaker BSubscrib to whoever a favorite podcast, favorite quota today something.
Speaker BYou know, find these things out here.
Speaker BThe secret, the game of life, how to play.
Speaker BAnd I work with a great team now.
Speaker BI work with a fantastic team.
Speaker BWe read books of the month.
Speaker BWe're doing all these fantastic things.
Speaker BSo that helps me too.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BBut it's really about having programs like this, the Hairdresser Strong so that you can plug in, get information that's going to help you live a better life.
Speaker BThat's what it's about.
Speaker BOh, I'm not the only one.
Speaker BYou're inviting great guests who are pouring into this community and that's what it's about, having avenues like this.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BYou know, Stampora says it, you know, all the great, you know, we're out in this beauty world and so plug in and listen to these podcasts and make sure every day you get 1% better.
Speaker AThat's amazing.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AOkay, so let's go into the celebrity stuff.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAnd like, because you, you've been all over the TV and like I'm looking at your bio right now and it's pretty awesome.
Speaker ASo you.
Speaker ASo you said earlier that Patti LaBelle was the first celebrity, is that right?
Speaker BYeah, the first big one.
Speaker BYou know, she was the first, like, big one our school used to do.
Speaker BI went to Dudley, and our school used to do, like, BET Gospel and different local network.
Speaker BSo we would do celebrities as they came in, but we didn't get to go on tour with them or live with them and work with them and be on their entourage.
Speaker BThat was just.
Speaker BThey came, we did them and hit it and quit it with her.
Speaker BIt was tours, special events.
Speaker BThere were Martha Stewart show, you know, different television shows that she would be on.
Speaker BYou know, hair and makeup is different than, let's say, for instance, the band or anybody else, because hair and makeup is needed for every event.
Speaker BThe band is only needed for the concerts.
Speaker BSo we would do events that weren't even concerts.
Speaker BI mean, concerts are great because you get a per diem and you get all these benefits, and I love concerts.
Speaker BBut, you know, there are also public appearances and everything else that people want to see a celebrity and they need their hair and makeup done.
Speaker BAnd especially people in that time.
Speaker BWe're in a different era now where, you know, social media, people can, you know, celebrity styling during, I would say the early 2000s and the mid 2000s are different now because, I mean, like, you know that because people now have social media and people now have different budgets, some people don't have it in their budget to have somebody touring with them.
Speaker BAnd if you're in celebrity styling or if you're looking for that, I would highly encourage you to get recording artists and people that, you know, have those kind of budgets.
Speaker BBecause an actress can't sell out shows, but an entertainer, you know what I mean?
Speaker BSo seek out entertainers if you really want to go that route, you know what I mean?
Speaker BBecause they're the ones who.
Speaker BAnd it's really about building good relationships, you know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, you want to do hair, you want to know how to keep your mouth closed.
Speaker BYou don't want to ask a bunch of questions.
Speaker BYou don't want to pry into their business.
Speaker BYou want to see and don't see, hear and don't hear.
Speaker BYou're here to do hair.
Speaker BI don't care if they want you to do it on the floor.
Speaker BWhere are the plus.
Speaker BAnd people will book you and continue to keep you.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker AYeah, that's so good.
Speaker AOkay, so would you say that if someone wanted.
Speaker AIs some it.
Speaker AIf someone wanted to get into celebrity, working with celebrities, do you.
Speaker AWould you say that being able to do both makeup and hair is a hugely important, or can you just do one or the other?
Speaker BI strongly think that you should do one and have an edge on the other.
Speaker BBecause I had an agent who told me seven when I was working with Patti LaBelle and I wanted to do both hair and makeup.
Speaker BHe was like, you need to pick one or the other.
Speaker BYou can't be the master of both.
Speaker BAnd I wanted to prove him wrong, so I went on this journey to do that.
Speaker BBut when you got to carry all this stuff, you got to have all this stuff, and you got to run from one and run to the next, you, like somebody else could have had that time while I rest, right?
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BOr whatever, and then you really don't master it all.
Speaker BI'm really not that great of a makeup artist.
Speaker BI mean, I can do good makeup on a pretty girl, and I can make you look good and all of that, but there are certain things that I just really cannot do.
Speaker BI did counter makeup, I did fashion makeup, and I did different things with time.
Speaker BSo I'm like, you know what?
Speaker BI just decided to go and do hair.
Speaker BAnd I think as you mature as a beauty professional, in the beginning, try it all, you need to find out what it is that you love.
Speaker BBut once you got it together after about two or three years, you need to pick a niche, because people pay for niche.
Speaker BI do nothing but sew ins.
Speaker BThat's what I market.
Speaker BI promote hair extensions, and I get paid very well to do them.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BNot saying that, but.
Speaker BAnd I know other people that do.
Speaker BSo at a certain point in the game, you want to be known for something, because one thing about the one trick pony is, you know which trick you coming to see.
Speaker BLike, you ain't guessing.
Speaker BIt ain't can you?
Speaker BAnd everybody that says they can do it all, I'm like, I don't see you doing that well over the girl.
Speaker BThat is the specialist.
Speaker BYou're not out coloring this girl because you're doing too much.
Speaker BNo matter how you say you do DC color, you do nice color, you're doing a nice haircut, it's given.
Speaker BBut it's not like that girl who's mastering it because she just focus on that.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker BWe only got 24 hours in a day.
Speaker BHow you got the time to be great when you're doing some money, other things.
Speaker ASteve, that's so good.
Speaker AThank you for that.
Speaker AThat was very good.
Speaker ASo just to.
Speaker AJust to clarify, because.
Speaker AWell, just to clarify, make sure you're really good at one thing, but it would help if you at least had some sort of basic knowledge about the other.
Speaker BAnd also to clarify as you grow in your career, in the beginning, okay, you need to do it all.
Speaker BGet familiar with what it is like in the intermediate phase.
Speaker BOkay, master the things, pick few, four, five, six that you're going to get.
Speaker BBut when you're ready to get in the high premium overtime, want to work less two to three days a week, you're going to be.
Speaker BNeed to be in a niche because women with money know they want a specialty.
Speaker BWhen they're going to Gucci, they're getting a specialty designed bag.
Speaker BAnd when they're coming to you, they're getting a specialty design, weave, color, cut, something that's built to last.
Speaker BThey know it's going to last them a little while.
Speaker BIt's going to be good to go.
Speaker BThat's when you get into the big league.
Speaker BBut as you grow your career, in the beginning, no, you got to figure it out.
Speaker BYou're gonna have to mess up 100 heads.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThank you for that.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AYou're gonna have to mess up 100 heads.
Speaker AI like that number.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThis is so good.
Speaker ASo we are.
Speaker AThis has been a great conversation so far.
Speaker AI.
Speaker AI'm curious to know, like, just if you want to do like, like a high level, because we mentioned a number of celebrities.
Speaker AIf you want to give, like a high level, like, because I'm.
Speaker AI mean, based on your story, it sounds like getting into certain.
Speaker ADoing certain things and having certain experiences and having certain relationships leads to other opportunity.
Speaker AI mean, I'm.
Speaker AI'm picking that up from what you're saying.
Speaker AYou're not saying that.
Speaker AI'm just gathering that from what you're saying.
Speaker AWould you talk.
Speaker AWould you tell us a little bit about, like, that process?
Speaker ALike, one thing leads to another.
Speaker AYou don't have to give them all of them because there's so many, but maybe you give a couple of things that kind of one thing led to another, if that's how it works.
Speaker AAnd if not, tell us a little bit about how you landed some of these gigs.
Speaker BI would say yes.
Speaker BIt definitely starts with building relationships.
Speaker BI started doing hair shows with Glenn Jackson, who also has an agency and does a lot of relationships.
Speaker BSo Glenn Jackson put me in Hair Idol when I won Hair Idol.
Speaker BTed Gibson Salon was coming to DC and when they came to DC, Hair Idol gave us $50,000 and $10,000 to give to our favorite charity.
Speaker BSo it was a big, huge deal by Sensationnel, who by Hair Zone and Sensationnel.
Speaker BSo they own the companies, the hair companies like Outre and another hair company in the store.
Speaker BA lot of people know them.
Speaker BSo long story short, they.
Speaker BGlenn Jackson introduced me to them.
Speaker BI won the award.
Speaker BTed Gibson Salon was coming to DC and the owners say, hey, Ted is coming to dc.
Speaker BWould you mind going?
Speaker BI didn't know who Ted was, but my friend, when I asked him because he worked for Aveda, he was like, oh, if you work with Ted, you'll definitely make some money.
Speaker BSo I'm like, oh, well, let me go over here, because this is a, well, upscale salon.
Speaker BSo I went, got a master stylist there.
Speaker BI was introduced to Valerie Jarrett, who was the senior advisor to President Obama.
Speaker BSo I got to work with her in the White house for about 14 years.
Speaker BI mean, it was three and four times a week because whenever they had press.
Speaker BAnd so that introduced me to the US Attorney General who got.
Speaker BI started working for her and all of that.
Speaker BAnd that's how I got it, working for Naomi Campbell, because Ted Gibson referred her, their agency referred her, they referred Lupita.
Speaker BNow, this is a story you have to hear because I don't watch tv, I don't know my celebrity cl.
Speaker BWhen they call, I'm just here to service them.
Speaker BI've gotten good at staying out of the way.
Speaker BOkay, So I get the call from Rashida Jones publicist that America Ferreira is going to be in town and would I be able to do her hair?
Speaker BNow, I thought America Ferreira was an event.
Speaker BI did not know that was a person, because I'm thinking, oh, Rasheeda's coming to get her hair done.
Speaker BSo I go to the hotel, knock on the door, America Ferreira answers, and I'm like, hey, is Rasheeda here?
Speaker BAnd she's like, huh?
Speaker BSo I have to go look at the email.
Speaker BI Google her, and I'm like, oh, this is the lady from Ugly Betty.
Speaker BI had no idea.
Speaker BBut I did her hair for that.
Speaker BBut that was a Ted Gibson referral.
Speaker BSo a lot of, you know, I built a great relationship with him, too, and he taught me a lot.
Speaker BAnd one of the things, he humbled me and taught me that, like, if you're a celebrity hairstylist or a top hairdresser in your salon, you need to make sure that everybody else is eating too.
Speaker BLike, you can't be the top and nobody else.
Speaker BIt's, we all rise together.
Speaker BAnd he was like, when I'm successful, you're successful.
Speaker BWhen you're successful, I'm successful.
Speaker BAnd it really taught me about everything on the ship matters, you know what I mean?
Speaker BAnd it really was, you know, I learned a lot and he would just send clients my way.
Speaker BHe sent Lupita my way.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BThey would just be like, hey, Adrienne, Naomi Campbell's in town.
Speaker BCan you do her?
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSo I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAnd that's incredible.
Speaker AWhat incredible story?
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker AThat is.
Speaker AIt sounds like that is very exciting.
Speaker AVery, very exciting times.
Speaker AAnd so I always have to ask this for anybody who's worked in the White House.
Speaker AWhat.
Speaker AWhat is that like?
Speaker AWhat is that experience like, working?
Speaker AYou know, we're in D.C.
Speaker Aany.
Speaker AEverybody who's tuning in, you either know that, and if it's your first time now, you know it.
Speaker ABut Dr.
Speaker AAdrian Seven is also DC.
Speaker ADM, where are you?
Speaker AAre you in DC proper?
Speaker BIn DC proper?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI live.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo this.
Speaker AAnd we're in D.C.
Speaker Aalso.
Speaker ASo white House is a pretty big deal everywhere, but definitely here.
Speaker ASo how did you tell us about that?
Speaker BSo, you know, it's really my second run into the White House because the first time, even though I didn't go there, I did Mikhail Salahi for her event that she had at the White House.
Speaker BShe was a client of mine when she was on D.C.
Speaker Bhousewives.
Speaker BI was her hairdresser.
Speaker BAggressive.
Speaker BSo I got to tell you that story, too, because I want to hear that story.
Speaker BI'll tell you.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BSo, long story short, the second time around, when I got the gig for Valerie Jarrett, what happened was.
Speaker BSo when I first moved to dc, my aunt took me to get a clearance because she worked for the government.
Speaker BSo she had done.
Speaker BBen took me.
Speaker BSoon as I land, I have an uncle and a wife.
Speaker BHis wife lives here.
Speaker BShe took me to Glass, like, start getting clearance.
Speaker BSo when I started working for Valerie Jarrett, who is the senior advisor to the president, I already had a clearance, and I could now be cleared to go and service her on location.
Speaker BSo by servicing her on location, it gave me access to so many things.
Speaker BI also had a relationship with the editor of essence, Pamela Edwards, who also knew Ted Gibson.
Speaker BSo Ted worked that where we would all know each other.
Speaker BSo long story short, they were doing a spread for Essence magazine because when Obama was in town, there were a lot of different minorities who were in power and in office.
Speaker BSo they did a spread in the magazine, and so they hired me and my team.
Speaker BSo I called people that I work with, D.C.
Speaker Bfashion Week, friends of mine, my assistants, and we did that photo shoot at the White House that was like, all of these photos.
Speaker BSo we would also do different things.
Speaker BAnd then they would invite me to things.
Speaker BI never asked.
Speaker BAsked for any favors.
Speaker BI got to go to the Christmas dinners.
Speaker BI went to when the gay would.
Speaker BYou know how.
Speaker BWhen they signed a deal with gays can get married.
Speaker BI went to that at the White House and the person in the back was making a noise.
Speaker BI went through all of that.
Speaker BSo, you know, and I would never ask for anything.
Speaker BThey would just give them to me.
Speaker BHey, Adrienne, you want to go to this?
Speaker BHey, Adrienne, you want to go to this?
Speaker BHey.
Speaker BAnd I always just served her like any other celebrity.
Speaker BAnd I always believe the person you have to be most professional to is yourself.
Speaker BI don't ask questions.
Speaker BI mean, I talk about basic things.
Speaker BI don't talk politics.
Speaker BI don't care.
Speaker BYou know, that's not my thing.
Speaker BI mean, I even work for Omarosa, who's a very dear friend of mine.
Speaker BWe've grown over years.
Speaker BI've done book tour stuff with her, but I don't who you vote for and who you work for.
Speaker BI believe as a beauty professional, this is where we get the one out.
Speaker BWe don't need to be involved in that.
Speaker BLike, as beauty professionals.
Speaker BHow can you serve the masses when you're.
Speaker BYou all jumbled up into it?
Speaker BJust stay out of the way.
Speaker BDo vote who you vote for.
Speaker BDo your thing, but don't get in the mix because that limits who you serve.
Speaker BYou only serve one half of the population if you stick to one side.
Speaker BIf you stay out the way, you get to serve them all.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, listen, that doesn't matter.
Speaker BWe're talking about your family.
Speaker BI don't get in their occupation.
Speaker BRecreation, you know, motivation stuff, you know, life.
Speaker BI sell me what I've been doing.
Speaker BTaking classes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BHere to serve.
Speaker BListen, be pleasant.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, that's how you get the jobs and get it done and get it quick.
Speaker BLike, they're not.
Speaker BYou're here to serve.
Speaker BLike, and when you serve on this level, you also have to realize we're serving the masses.
Speaker BSo you gotta be out the way.
Speaker BYou wanna be a professional.
Speaker BIt's really about professional hairdressing.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker AThis is so good.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker AYou're.
Speaker AYou're nailing it, man.
Speaker AI love this.
Speaker AThis is so good.
Speaker AIt's like, I don't even.
Speaker AThere are questions I usually ask.
Speaker AI don't even have to ask because you're like, delivering.
Speaker AThis is amazing.
Speaker AOkay, so since.
Speaker AI mean, this has been a great conversation and I greatly appreciate your time, but as we Come to the end of our conversation.
Speaker AI always like to ask a number of things.
Speaker AFirst thing I want to ask you is, what are you doing now?
Speaker AWhat are you up to right now?
Speaker AWhat can we expect to, like, see from you?
Speaker AAnd so that's the first thing.
Speaker AAnd then the second thing is I would like you to, if you have any last, last words of advice or wisdom for somebody that's just starting or maybe someone that's in, in the industry but wants to advance themselves.
Speaker BOkay, so what can you expect from me now?
Speaker BI'm working on a national expansion of.
Speaker BI'm working with, doing marketing and promotions on the side, helping small businesses, families, individuals with a great paying company.
Speaker BYou know, my friend introduced it to me.
Speaker BReally great stuff that I'm doing on the side.
Speaker BSo I can introduce them, get them some information about that, because we'd be here all day, you know what I mean?
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BAnd then I also would say, and I've been working bi coastal, luckily, I've been fortunate where, I mean, I'm going to be honest.
Speaker BThe key to wealth right now is multiple streams of income.
Speaker BI got introduced to it and I'm like, you know what?
Speaker BI need something that I can do with leverage.
Speaker BSo now I do that on the side and I do hair on the side.
Speaker BAnd then I live and just travel.
Speaker BI work in LA eight days a week out of the year, out of the month.
Speaker BSo I go to LA and I work in the salon three days while I'm there.
Speaker BAnd the other five days I just work from home or go to the beach, go hiking, do whatever.
Speaker BBut I can work from my phone.
Speaker BSo I may stop on the mountaintop, work and do that.
Speaker BSo that's what you can expect is me expanding that, working with my team and also doing hair while I'm there.
Speaker BWhen I'm in la, I do hair extensions at rvm, which is fantastic.
Speaker BThey have five salons on one block.
Speaker BBlock.
Speaker BCan you imagine an owner with five salons on one block?
Speaker BListen, we're on Wilshire.
Speaker BIt's a very historic district.
Speaker BLike there are a lot of hairdressers.
Speaker BLike, it's so great.
Speaker BAnd I mean, I work there and I assist too.
Speaker BSo I'm like, if I don't have clients, I don't mind assisting people.
Speaker BI've done everything.
Speaker BI don't mind.
Speaker BAnd I learn from them, especially more hair extension skills.
Speaker BSo I do that.
Speaker BAnd when I'm at McKenna Jordan, which is state of the art, it is DMV finest.
Speaker BI mean, and I love commissioners as A beauty professional.
Speaker BI've owned a salon, I've worked in a salon and I've done all these things and I believe commission is the best because you get to pay more.
Speaker BYou don't have to worry about all the overhead and you just, it's a beautiful scene.
Speaker BSo that's what I would recommend.
Speaker BSo if you're an up and coming or new beauty professional, I would encourage you to find other beauty professionals doing what you're doing, who you look up to.
Speaker BFind role models, people that you look up to, mimic them, model them, work on yourself, read good books, study, become the best version of you.
Speaker BSubscribe to beauty professional magazines, follow their pages, go to other people that are doing professional development work on multiple stream.
Speaker BThat's what wealth is about.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BHaving more than one stream of income.
Speaker BI've learned the hard way, like you can't just depend on one thing, you got to have more.
Speaker BAnd so I would encourage you that, that and really just have fun.
Speaker BYou came to enjoy life.
Speaker BDecide what it is, create a purpose.
Speaker BStart today.
Speaker BI know my purpose is to enjoy life.
Speaker BEntertaining, edifying, education, empowering, enhancing the lives of others while doing it and being in a prosperous environment.
Speaker BSo I don't want to, you know, but I want to enjoy life first.
Speaker BSo make sure while you go and decide what it is you want to do from here on out, you put enjoy first.
Speaker BI want to enjoy life and let it be whatever you want to be.
Speaker BBut I would say follow other great hairdressers and tune into the hairdresser strong.
Speaker BYou're going to have another guest that's doing it just as good as me, even better.
Speaker BAnd you're going to learn from them and continue to plug in and God will provide a way.
Speaker BYou're already on a great journey and remember you're in the best industry.
Speaker BThe number one product whenever there's a recession is lipstick it.
Speaker BSo people are going to want to see you.
Speaker AThat's so good.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker BYou're more than welcome.
Speaker AYes, thank you.
Speaker AIt's been incredible experience for me and I'm sure you brought value to our listeners and, and, and viewers.
Speaker ASo thank you again so much.
Speaker AIt's been a pleasure.
Speaker BYou're more than welcome.
Speaker BThank you.