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Are you in for an absolute treat, we have one of the

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world's most brilliant and premier thought leaders as a

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guest on today's show. Mark Sanborn is one of the world's

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most sought after experts in leadership and customer service.

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Mark is in the professional speakers Hall of Fame. He's an

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international best selling author of seven books, including

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The New York Times bestseller, The Fred factor, which has sold

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over a million copies worldwide. Mr. Mark Sanborn, thanks for

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being with us.

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Thank you, sir. appreciate the kind words.

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Yeah, so tell us for those people who don't know who is

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Fred, and why does he matter to us?

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Fred is a real life postal carrier here in

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Denver, Colorado, who takes that ordinary job of putting mail in

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a box and makes it truly extraordinary. I mean, the guy

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is an artist at creating value for his postal route customers,

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or relationship building, and just kind of reinventing what

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most people would think would be a pretty dull or redundant or

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dead end job. And the point of the matter is, is that if Fred

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can reinvent delivering the mail, if he can take a very

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simple job and make it extraordinary, then you're I

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have no excuse for taking whatever work we do and adding

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more to it and doing it differently so that it adds

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value to the lives of the people around us. The premise of this

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book is how do you keep that momentum going, you know, how do

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you sustain it, when, in reality, you don't always get

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appreciated or recognized or rewarded for doing a great job.

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If we lived in a perfect world, maybe you would. But as I've

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talked to people over the years, occasionally, they'll utter some

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of the saddest words you'll ever hear. And those are the words I

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used to somebody will say, Well, you know, I used to do that. But

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then I got burnout, or I used to do that. But I got taken

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advantage of. And I think so often people end up putting the

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locus of responsibility outside themselves. But what I find is,

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is that people that do the extraordinary, they don't do it

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necessarily for recognition or compensation. That usually

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follows it often does. But at the end of the day, you do it

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because A, it's the right thing to do. Be because you can and

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see because it ultimately enriches your own life. And

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that's really what the Fred factor is about.

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One of the things that you you wrote about Mark, which I

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love is called your signature difference.

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Well, we all have an opportunity to make a

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positive difference every day. But the question is, are you

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able to add your own unique signature to that difference you

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make and what are the great examples is giving someone

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encouragement is a difference that we're all pop, we're all

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capable of making in the lives of those around us. But a man I

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met many years ago named Fred Stork is a world class gardener

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and he loves roses. So when he encourages somebody, he sends

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him one of his award winning roses. Or if someone's facing a

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difficult time, they'll send him a bouquet of his rose. And so he

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adds that unique factor. I'm a gardener, I love roses, but I

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also like to make a positive difference. So the question I

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always ask people is, what is your unique factor? Where are

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your talents and passions overlap with the job that you

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do? So that you can add kind of a flourish that makes it unique

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to you in the book, I talk about a restaurant owner, may Wiggins

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who in in the Deep South, who hugs her customers now, you

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know, not all of us could get away with hugging our customers.

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But she's the kind of woman that just delights people with her

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warmth and hospitality. So that's her signature difference.

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Sure, that is so powerful, just that uniqueness is nothing

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other than where your talents and your passions overlap, where

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they where they intersect, that leads to an elevated experience.

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How do you know if you really hit the mark, of delivering an

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elevated experience for your customers?

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In the book I talked about four ingredients,

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but there's one that's key. And I say, first of all, you know,

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any experience has to deliver value. The second thing and

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elevated experience, AWS has an element of surprise. And it's a

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good surprise, you know, it's not an unpleasant surprise, like

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you expected, wait 10 minutes and waited an hour. But after

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you've figured out a way to pleasantly surprise people, the

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key is is that they leave happier. And I think in

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business, we often look at what we did, and how the person

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responded, but we missed the point. And that is an elevated

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experience elevates your moods. So the NBA is a little bit

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happier than you started the transaction or the interaction.

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And when people leave happier, the great thing is an elevated

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experience gets them to tell others and they don't just say,

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you know, oh, here, here's a place that you might consider

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when you need new tires. They say things like Man, you've got

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to go to Bob tire you wouldn't believe what they do or in real

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life. A Les Schwab Tire you know, Les Schwab has been a

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client of mine. They know that one of their their signature

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differences is they run out to greet you hear car, I mean they

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literally run out to the parking lot and greet you before you get

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out.

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That is so cool. I mean, it's such a simple idea but how,

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like how warm and inviting so simple, I love it. So for

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everyone listening What is one thing that you think that we

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could do today to start implementing the power of Fred?

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Well, here's one simple idea, but it's very

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powerful if you do it and that is when somebody makes a request

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of you today, whether it's a colleague, or a customer or a

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client, or maybe even your spouse and this works, you know,

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at home because truth is transferable. Lots of people

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read the book who don't have traditional marketplace jobs,

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they still get value because they use these principles with

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their their spouses and their their kids. That is practice

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ABCD. Ask yourself, What can I do to go above and beyond the

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call of duty? What's that little bit extra? If somebody asks you

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for five minutes of your time, give him 10 minutes and go a

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little more in depth. Somebody asked you how to get somewhere,

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walk with him and show him.

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Mr. Mark Sanborn, thanks for being with us.

Mark Sanborn:

Thank you, sir.