Are you in for an absolute treat, we have one of the
Host:world's most brilliant and premier thought leaders as a
Host:guest on today's show. Mark Sanborn is one of the world's
Host:most sought after experts in leadership and customer service.
Host:Mark is in the professional speakers Hall of Fame. He's an
Host:international best selling author of seven books, including
Host:The New York Times bestseller, The Fred factor, which has sold
Host:over a million copies worldwide. Mr. Mark Sanborn, thanks for
Host:being with us.
Mark Sanborn:Thank you, sir. appreciate the kind words.
Host:Yeah, so tell us for those people who don't know who is
Host:Fred, and why does he matter to us?
Mark Sanborn:Fred is a real life postal carrier here in
Mark Sanborn:Denver, Colorado, who takes that ordinary job of putting mail in
Mark Sanborn:a box and makes it truly extraordinary. I mean, the guy
Mark Sanborn:is an artist at creating value for his postal route customers,
Mark Sanborn:or relationship building, and just kind of reinventing what
Mark Sanborn:most people would think would be a pretty dull or redundant or
Mark Sanborn:dead end job. And the point of the matter is, is that if Fred
Mark Sanborn:can reinvent delivering the mail, if he can take a very
Mark Sanborn:simple job and make it extraordinary, then you're I
Mark Sanborn:have no excuse for taking whatever work we do and adding
Mark Sanborn:more to it and doing it differently so that it adds
Mark Sanborn:value to the lives of the people around us. The premise of this
Mark Sanborn:book is how do you keep that momentum going, you know, how do
Mark Sanborn:you sustain it, when, in reality, you don't always get
Mark Sanborn:appreciated or recognized or rewarded for doing a great job.
Mark Sanborn:If we lived in a perfect world, maybe you would. But as I've
Mark Sanborn:talked to people over the years, occasionally, they'll utter some
Mark Sanborn:of the saddest words you'll ever hear. And those are the words I
Mark Sanborn:used to somebody will say, Well, you know, I used to do that. But
Mark Sanborn:then I got burnout, or I used to do that. But I got taken
Mark Sanborn:advantage of. And I think so often people end up putting the
Mark Sanborn:locus of responsibility outside themselves. But what I find is,
Mark Sanborn:is that people that do the extraordinary, they don't do it
Mark Sanborn:necessarily for recognition or compensation. That usually
Mark Sanborn:follows it often does. But at the end of the day, you do it
Mark Sanborn:because A, it's the right thing to do. Be because you can and
Mark Sanborn:see because it ultimately enriches your own life. And
Mark Sanborn:that's really what the Fred factor is about.
Host:One of the things that you you wrote about Mark, which I
Host:love is called your signature difference.
Mark Sanborn:Well, we all have an opportunity to make a
Mark Sanborn:positive difference every day. But the question is, are you
Mark Sanborn:able to add your own unique signature to that difference you
Mark Sanborn:make and what are the great examples is giving someone
Mark Sanborn:encouragement is a difference that we're all pop, we're all
Mark Sanborn:capable of making in the lives of those around us. But a man I
Mark Sanborn:met many years ago named Fred Stork is a world class gardener
Mark Sanborn:and he loves roses. So when he encourages somebody, he sends
Mark Sanborn:him one of his award winning roses. Or if someone's facing a
Mark Sanborn:difficult time, they'll send him a bouquet of his rose. And so he
Mark Sanborn:adds that unique factor. I'm a gardener, I love roses, but I
Mark Sanborn:also like to make a positive difference. So the question I
Mark Sanborn:always ask people is, what is your unique factor? Where are
Mark Sanborn:your talents and passions overlap with the job that you
Mark Sanborn:do? So that you can add kind of a flourish that makes it unique
Mark Sanborn:to you in the book, I talk about a restaurant owner, may Wiggins
Mark Sanborn:who in in the Deep South, who hugs her customers now, you
Mark Sanborn:know, not all of us could get away with hugging our customers.
Mark Sanborn:But she's the kind of woman that just delights people with her
Mark Sanborn:warmth and hospitality. So that's her signature difference.
Host:Sure, that is so powerful, just that uniqueness is nothing
Host:other than where your talents and your passions overlap, where
Host:they where they intersect, that leads to an elevated experience.
Host:How do you know if you really hit the mark, of delivering an
Host:elevated experience for your customers?
Mark Sanborn:In the book I talked about four ingredients,
Mark Sanborn:but there's one that's key. And I say, first of all, you know,
Mark Sanborn:any experience has to deliver value. The second thing and
Mark Sanborn:elevated experience, AWS has an element of surprise. And it's a
Mark Sanborn:good surprise, you know, it's not an unpleasant surprise, like
Mark Sanborn:you expected, wait 10 minutes and waited an hour. But after
Mark Sanborn:you've figured out a way to pleasantly surprise people, the
Mark Sanborn:key is is that they leave happier. And I think in
Mark Sanborn:business, we often look at what we did, and how the person
Mark Sanborn:responded, but we missed the point. And that is an elevated
Mark Sanborn:experience elevates your moods. So the NBA is a little bit
Mark Sanborn:happier than you started the transaction or the interaction.
Mark Sanborn:And when people leave happier, the great thing is an elevated
Mark Sanborn:experience gets them to tell others and they don't just say,
Mark Sanborn:you know, oh, here, here's a place that you might consider
Mark Sanborn:when you need new tires. They say things like Man, you've got
Mark Sanborn:to go to Bob tire you wouldn't believe what they do or in real
Mark Sanborn:life. A Les Schwab Tire you know, Les Schwab has been a
Mark Sanborn:client of mine. They know that one of their their signature
Mark Sanborn:differences is they run out to greet you hear car, I mean they
Mark Sanborn:literally run out to the parking lot and greet you before you get
Mark Sanborn:out.
Host:That is so cool. I mean, it's such a simple idea but how,
Host:like how warm and inviting so simple, I love it. So for
Host:everyone listening What is one thing that you think that we
Host:could do today to start implementing the power of Fred?
Mark Sanborn:Well, here's one simple idea, but it's very
Mark Sanborn:powerful if you do it and that is when somebody makes a request
Mark Sanborn:of you today, whether it's a colleague, or a customer or a
Mark Sanborn:client, or maybe even your spouse and this works, you know,
Mark Sanborn:at home because truth is transferable. Lots of people
Mark Sanborn:read the book who don't have traditional marketplace jobs,
Mark Sanborn:they still get value because they use these principles with
Mark Sanborn:their their spouses and their their kids. That is practice
Mark Sanborn:ABCD. Ask yourself, What can I do to go above and beyond the
Mark Sanborn:call of duty? What's that little bit extra? If somebody asks you
Mark Sanborn:for five minutes of your time, give him 10 minutes and go a
Mark Sanborn:little more in depth. Somebody asked you how to get somewhere,
Mark Sanborn:walk with him and show him.
Host:Mr. Mark Sanborn, thanks for being with us.
Mark Sanborn:Thank you, sir.