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Yeah, when I think of AI, I think of like limitless creativity options for me, right?

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I use it to take those little ideas that I have and help me kind of make them into

something bigger.

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So very interesting.

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Like me, for me, AI, being an AI robot would be, I mean, some people I think, think I am

now.

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They joke.

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I'm one engineer that jokes I'm a robot all the time.

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I am not.

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If I was, if I was.

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AI would, I would be leveraging it in much different ways.

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I would be unstoppable.

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This is Technophile Real Talk.

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Thank you to this episode's Checkpoint Software.

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Welcome back.

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It is Technophile Real Talk and guess what movie we're doing today.

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This one I've been talking about for probably the last every single episode for season two

and I've been talking about doing it with a twist so I cannot help but say welcome back

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Jessica, Patricia and we have a new guest here Tammy.

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Welcome ladies.

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Thank you.

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Okay, this is unusual because we have a little bit more than normal.

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but there's a reason behind it.

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It is because we're doing the movie Metropolis, the 1920, uh-oh, the 29?

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So look, seven, nine, same, same to me in my brain.

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Actually, it matters.

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It actually matters what year this is because the reason why I asked you ladies to come

back and plus invite Tammy is because I thought it would be kind of fun to review

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Metropolis from the lens of our own generations.

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and as females in tech.

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So we have got a bunch of different angles here.

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We can go and approach this, or we could just simply respond to it as we would as normal

human beings.

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It doesn't matter, but I figured it'd be kind of a cool angle.

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So ladies, are you up for something like slightly different?

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Yes, always.

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Okay, so in the back room, the green room, I was chatting it up with Tammy.

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So Tammy, because you are the latest and greatest to the crew here, could you help me

understand exactly, you're in computer science, I'm sure you're still getting your degree.

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Yes, I'm currently my second year, so almost my third.

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But yeah, I'm studying computer science right now.

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Okay, why did you pick computer science of all the many degrees out there?

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wow.

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I chose it because I just like problem solving.

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And whenever I started to code, I felt like I could find a solution more efficiently

through tech.

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So, yeah.

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Interesting.

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Okay, now let's be brutally honest because we do have some parents in our midst.

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Were you encouraged by your parents or is it something a family member or on your own

you're like, meh, I'm trying it.

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I wasn't encouraged by my family actually.

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I was kind of discouraged because my family is more traditional and they want me to go

typical like doctor, lawyer.

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But being in school, I was able to explore and I had the opportunity to go into different

programs and see what I liked.

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Very cool.

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So you're enjoying yourself.

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Now, I know you're enjoying yourself.

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Let me rephrase that because we know you're enjoying yourself.

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Of course, all the teachers or professors out there give a raise.

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What's your future career?

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What exactly do you want to do with your degree?

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With my degree, I'd hopefully want to go into either like software engineering or software

development, but not influenced at all.

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But I also wanted to look into cybersecurity and explore that as well.

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I just haven't had the opportunity just yet.

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you oh

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Let me tell you, cybersecurity is job security.

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Like legit, legit.

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I don't know of all the industries out there.

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Like if you want to have a guaranteed job, it's going to be in cyber.

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Just saying.

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So, okay, Jessica, Patricia, any thoughts that you'd like to add or guidance from Tammy as

we, as she jumps into her career?

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Cyber, cyber, cyber.

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You just can't go wrong with anything computers either.

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even from 100 years ago, technology was so ingrained in the idea and the concept of what

the future is going to be and that nothing has changed today.

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Patricia?

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Pretty much the same, you can't go wrong.

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I know, isn't it crazy?

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And the fact that we're gonna be reviewing Metropolis, 1927, so this is like almost 100

years ago this movie's been made.

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So it's gonna be really intriguing.

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Raise your hand, who's seen the full movie?

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Oof.

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So hard.

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Okay Jessica, that face, why was it hard for

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Maybe I haven't, you know, was born a little bit before the whole, you know, 30-second

clips and attention span, but watching an entire movie with no dialogue?

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Like, it was implied, but apparently that's just not enough for me.

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was rough.

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uh Interesting, interesting.

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so Patricia, I know it's been a while for you and you've seen more or less bits and pieces

of it.

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What are your thoughts based on that statement that it was too slow or just hard to

connect without the voices?

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It's hard to connect without voices and it's very bleak in black and white and gray.

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guess black, white, well actually it's more black and gray than actual white.

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It's like just sapia.

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It's very bleak, it's very dystopian, it's just very, it is not an uplifting movie.

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I tried to watch the whole thing and then I pretty much just settled on clips here and

there because it was just like, this is a lot.

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It's for no dialogue.

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It's an incredibly heavy movie.

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It was, goodness gracious, the name's eluding me.

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You would think I would have taken notes for this, you guys, but the director, I believe,

is German.

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It's German movie.

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And the crazy part to me, is this is what they thought 2025, 2027 was going to look like.

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And I'm going to argue, I'm going to say...

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Yes, it's obviously a fantasized version, but I don't think we're that far off like

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actually review the movie itself.

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So Tammy, you've never seen this, right?

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Have you heard of Metropolis?

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oh this is gonna be so fun.

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I'm so excited.

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I'm like almost gonna cry.

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Okay, so it's like the antithesis again, I think our attention spans now is so vastly

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So you're pointing out something Jessica that I can see where maybe Tammy's generation

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I need to read the dialogue.

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Because there are some scenes where it went a little fast, I think, but I'm not gonna

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Ladies, I'm just gonna ask, on a scale of one to 10, Tammy, you know nothing.

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So this is just a total stab like guess in the dark.

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How accurate do you think it's gonna be of how they predict the future?

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How accurate do you think this movie is?

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And this is for Tammy.

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It's for Tammy to start.

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Tammy, you first.

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I mean without knowing anything I would guess a five.

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Someone's a gambler.

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They're they're hedging.

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Okay, good job, good job.

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Jessica?

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Technically, I think they're about a, I mean, eight.

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uh Conceptually, they're an eight.

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Patricia.

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I'm going 10 because I've been around in computers for a long time and I don't want to

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And the young people laugh at that because it's like, you know, that's the size uh of a

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Well, yep, used to be.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Well, without further ado, everyone, are we ready for our first clip?

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All right, let's do it, ladies.

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We still have taxis.

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transportation looks like roller coasters.

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Energy conservation.

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Look at the transportation you guys.

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Planes, trains, automobiles.

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Traffic?

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Traffic?

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Intrigued by the vision of skyscrapers.

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That looks like a pagoda back there, doesn't it?

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Like the capital.

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That's cool.

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We still don't have flying airplanes of this nature.

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I think that one is a flying bus though.

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I think you're right.

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I think you're right.

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So, okay.

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Opening sequence of the cityscape.

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going to reverse the order here.

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Patricia, what are your thoughts on that?

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Well, it looks like it's rush hour in Metropolis.

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And I tell you, as I'm looking at that and going, oh, you know, everybody's going to work

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The music in the background feels so energetic compared to how bleak the scene looks to

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It looks very gray.

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I kind of see the grayness as like smog and pollution.

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But then there's this musical score in the background that's going.

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And I'm going, I don't quite feel like those two fit together.

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I would have been, I'm not at all musical, but if I were, I'd have been very discouraged

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Ah, Monday.

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Well, know, are there it's metropolis apparently is now considered part of the public

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Public domain.

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public domain.

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oh people on YouTube have been scoring their own music to it.

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there's like bunch of channels of composers who have done their own music to Metropolis.

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So if you want to check that out, definitely I'd highly recommend you go.

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It's interesting how, like you said, the different take on the music.

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I believe in this component, in this scene, I think it was supposed to be like the idea of

March of Progress, like above ground.

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future forward, there's movement activity, humans are productive, which is going to

contrast, which is going to come down the pike, right, with underground.

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I think that, at least to me, I think that was supposed to be his vision, but I can see it

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Jessica, what do you think?

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economy because there's the different modes of transportation, like the flying bus.

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Wouldn't that be cool to commute?

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And then there's everybody who's stuck in their cars in rush hour.

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And then there's the subway, which is probably crowded.

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So it was, it was very interesting to see the different levels.

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And then if I just think of how this actually looked on set, they didn't have any computer

generated animation.

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Therefore, this was probably all like a tiny little diorama that you made when you were in

elementary school with tiny little people like doing, like a little wire that you can't

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see doing like the tiny, flying the little tiny airplanes and stuff.

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And it's probably like a tiny toy train set.

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So I think about that, that that was probably fun to do back in the 20s.

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You're right on that like a diorama.

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mean, I mean if you think about it though, I mean how again how Ford future thinking for I

Can't remember the guy's name.

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I almost like her zig or something like that.

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I'm so terrible everyone.

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I'm so sorry But but for the director and cinematographer and although like how amazing in

the 20s to be so innovative because even Star Trek 1977

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Right?

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The first one still used those dioramas and forced perspectives and, you know, gosh, poor

Tammy.

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She's like, yeah, they're old school too.

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What's up?

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Okay, so Jessica, did you think?

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my first thought was welcome to Dallas, right?

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Like one of the things that endears me to the Dallas forward area is the infrastructure of

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And I always thought that coming down here for the first time that they were so advanced.

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And I love that about the area.

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But even back in 1927, conceptually they had this idea of the different levels of roads.

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the different modes of transportation all kind of coexisting, going the same place, right?

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It wasn't just the train taking you here, the bus gets you here.

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It's all of these different ways of transportation are gonna get you to the same spot

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And then it brings me hope for like the bullet train from Dallas to Houston too, right?

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Like I see that I'm like, this is what they thought of 100 years ago.

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We need to step up our game a little bit.

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feel like we're behind.

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This is a hundred years of thought and this is where we're at now.

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Maybe we haven't come so far, but at the same time, we've come so far.

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I hear you on that.

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Okay.

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I'm super sad.

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I'm sorry, Tammy.

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I got to ask.

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What do you think?

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Well, I think, so I live in Arlington currently and I think it's the largest city without

public transportation.

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So the only way we can get places is, you know, just driving and seeing this clip with all

the, you know, the different hierarchies of modes of transportation.

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It's, I, I feel a little envious.

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I wish we could have access to like the different levels of and different modes of like.

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Sometimes I don't want to take my car, gas is expensive.

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But I do notice like the

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What, what Patty said?

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But with the music and the soundtrack, it is that marching forward towards the future.

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But I do see where the cognitive dissent happens because, we're going towards the future,

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Like, is this really good for us?

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Is this, are we really advancing towards something?

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Are we?

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I don't know how to say it.

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think that's a very fair argument because though it hasn't been introduced just yet, but

AI is at the root source of the turning point of society being a well-structured, oiled

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machine to what chaos is going to ensue in the later scenes of this movie.

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Because I think there's, at least for me, my first impression, there's a certain semblance

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We're all cogs in a wheel, even humans, even in this path to the future.

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I think it's almost like we've lose a bit of autonomy.

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And I think that's the vibe I got even in the most affluent, most segment of society.

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And that's what this opening scene is.

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So, okay, now Tammy that you've seen the first scene though, and based on all the other

things that we've been talking about, is this what you expected of a movie from 100 years

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ago?

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No, I think it's actually a lot more accurate than the five I gave it.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So any other thoughts ladies and maybe we can punch on into scene two if you guys are

interested.

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All right.

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Okay.

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So if that's the case, let's get ready for scene two.

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I think it are all hooked up, you guys.

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I mean, definitely like right off the bat, Frankenstein.

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that's got CABLING ON.

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Guys, there's no spaghetti wires.

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The cabling looks pretty.

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I'm gonna cry, it's pretty.

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Look at that fire.

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Like, that's supposed to be the power source?

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That's right.

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So crazy, just the...

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depiction of

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That's creepy

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APIs.

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outfit though that's crazy they thought that we'd be wearing flowing jackets

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I mean, I think that was on the runway this year.

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Again

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I mean, look at that animation.

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This is pre-CGI world, people.

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And I don't think this is original music, by the way.

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This one.

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This music matches a little bit more to the scenes than the previous one, I thought, I

think.

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I think the music, yeah.

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I this is- I pulled this from one of those composers I was telling you about.

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We were talking like electric power, hydro power.

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Yeah

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and lot of different sources to make this happen.

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Just look at that you guys, I can't even do that like

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Now that pulling the lever is still, connotes a little bit mechanical still, analog

action, you know what mean?

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This is crazy to me, that he knew how to fade out.

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it's so creepy.

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Poor Maria.

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Okay guys, Maria's transformation.

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I'm gonna go to you first, Tammy, because this one to me is like, I think this is a very,

for lack of better term, I think this is like a sexy scene.

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Yeah, I mean, I feel like in media, this kind of like is the beginning of, the female like

robot trope.

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I think that it's always a woman that people try to turn into a robot or try to get things

to do or try to get them to do things for other people.

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I was reading up on the movie and he was doing this because she died and he wanted to

bring her back.

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So.

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But I think a big part of it was she didn't like, she died, but he brought her back

without like consent.

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You know what I'm saying?

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She's back and she didn't really have a choice or a say in the matter.

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And now she's forced to do all these things for him as a robot.

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what a fascinating take.

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wow.

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Again, that is the consent component never appeared in my brain once.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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okay.

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So from your perspective and seeing the scene, is this how you would have envisioned

transferring a soul into a robot machine, brainwaves, brain, memory, consciousness?

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Is this how you would have envisioned it?

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What did you think about that portrayal?

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think this portrayal is better than what I envisioned it because the entire process just

looked more like grueling and it looked more like the soul was actually being transferred

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because now what I envision is just like a simple little, we're going to copy the brain

into a cloud and just plug it in and that's it.

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But I think that the soul and the brain is a lot more.

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And so I really like this depiction of it because it's

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It has all the bubbles, all the lighting, all the entire process that just looks more

complex that I think is better fitting than a simple just plugging in process than what I

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envision right now.

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Have you seen the Matrix by any chance?

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Yes, I have.

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So, uh

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human plugging into an AI, a physical AI, which one would you think is more realistic

perception-wise to you?

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Or more appealing for that matter?

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I think more appealing is the alternate universe, because that one you're able to be more

creative and you have more control over what surrounds you and what you choose to do.

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there's not many limiting factors.

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Plugging into an AI, I just can't find much creativity in that.

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I just like control more, like having control over everything around me.

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Fair enough, fair enough.

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All right, Jessica, what do you think?

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Yeah, when I think of AI, I think of like limitless creativity options for me, right?

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I use it to take those little ideas that I have and help me kind of make them into

something bigger.

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So very interesting.

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Like me, for me, AI, being an AI robot would be, I mean, some people I think, think I am

now.

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They joke.

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Look, I'm one engineer that jokes I'm a robot all the time.

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I am not.

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If I was, if I was.

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AI would, I would be leveraging it in much different ways.

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I would be unstoppable.

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But, but just the whole transformation of Maria into this bot.

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And again, just like a hundred years ago, somebody had the idea that we could move

intelligence into.

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hardware, right?

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mean, okay, she was the bot and it humanized her, but there was this idea where we could

put intelligence into non-intelligent things.

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In the 80s and 90s growing up, there was a lot that happened, even just in the last 30

years.

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Cell phones, cordless, let's start with the cordless phone, right?

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cordless phone and then cell phones, internet being available to everybody.

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Gosh, cable TV, streaming Netflix from DVD to on your TV wherever you are.

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There's so many things that have happened.

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And again, it has taken our generation 30 years to bring those to life.

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And the director, I don't know his name either, so don't worry.

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So ahead of its time.

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Yeah, he was so ahead of his time, but he really went through, like Taimi mentioned, this

grueling process of pulling in all these different power sources and testing, you know, I

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don't know what he was testing, but he was testing something that looked like it was

really important to bring all of these different things together to make this.

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Yeah.

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It reminds me of Westworld.

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If you guys are familiar with Westworld.

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my gosh, that's another movie.

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gosh, that's a TV show and movie.

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highly recommend there's a 1970s Yul Brynner version of it, the original Westworld.

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And then there's the HBO Westworld.

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I'm obsessed with the Westworld of HBO season one.

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We will review it in the future guys, but it talks about that a little bit more where the

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human consciousness going into a robot form and are we human anymore?

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If our soul is in a robot form and we're, are we human or are we not?

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Right?

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Do we have?

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Is a sentient robot a human form thing?

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Where is the humanity, where does it begin and end, right?

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If a uh programming recognizes itself and it feels emotion and whatnot.

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It's a really crazy conversation to think about.

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okay, so Patricia, this transformation, this has got to be, I'm sure you have some

thoughts on it as well.

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I have actually...

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several thoughts.

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I look at what this person envisioned, you know, that it was made in 1927, but you figure

you probably have to take it back a couple years.

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They probably conceptualized it and laid it out for a couple years.

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And I see all the bells, literal bells and whistles and switches and, and vials of

bubbling things.

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And then I think this is 27.

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But then I think back to a couple more recent movies, at least for me, Young Frankenstein

and then Princess Bride.

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are both scenes in both of those movies that are not so far off as far as all the bells

and whistles and bubbling things and switches and knobs from this movie in the 1927.

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So this guy was very ahead of his time.

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And then I also think about what

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Jessica said about testing, I've always been in technical training.

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So I look at that and I'm thinking to myself, okay, so if I was writing the training

course on how to transfer the soul from live Maria to AI Maria, just imagine that all the,

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how would you test that?

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I mean, what exactly would you use to test that process to actually get it to the point

where you're actually going to be doing it?

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And so these are the things that were going through my mind.

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And then if I have, I actually do have some AI robot type of things in my house.

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They have names, one's called Farm Boy and one's called Rosie, and they vacuum my house

every single day.

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And so I was thinking, would I want an AI robot to do things for me when I'm working?

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I already have to.

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I robot.

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vacuum cleaners.

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you know, my mother loved to vacuum.

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So obviously some of her got transferred into my two iRobots and keeping my house clean

every day behind the scenes.

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Hey iRobot, you want to sponsor this episode, I'm not gonna say no.

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Sorry, didn't mean to product place there, but they're both buzzing in the background as

we're sitting here and I'm thinking, well, would I want robots?

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Well, I actually do have robots doing some things for me that I don't want to do.

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You know, you just made me think like if anyone has an Alexa in their, in their office,

that is a robot, you know, different function.

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Basically any device we have in our household that's IP that has an IP address basically

is a form of a robot, which reminds me of a movie called Maximum Overdrive.

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And if you guys aren't familiar with that, my boyfriend said I absolutely should do that

one because he thinks it's it's not a great movie.

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Okay.

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It's over the top, but.

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It's a Stephen King novel or short story that they turned into a movie in the 80s.

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it's basically robots take over, like mechanical devices take over the world.

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So maximum over driver who wants to do that episode hit me up.

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But it also reminds me of the Jetsons, like you say, like Rosie the robot, right?

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Would we want a robotic butler or maid in that human form?

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Cause I know there's a lot of

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robotic companies out there that are building these types of purpose-built tools for us.

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In a way, I'm surprised we don't have it already though, right?

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Because you would think the Jetsons, which was the 60s,

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Exactly.

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One of my iRobots is named Rosie after the robot maid and babysitter and dog walker in the

Jetsons.

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So, I that was envisioned a long time ago.

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And then just kind of the little plug of AI, I know that people now in my family that may

not be in technology or everybody's reading about AI and, it's kind of scary.

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I try to tell them AI has been around for a long time.

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Once your phone started auto correcting you, once spell check came, Siri's been, I don't

have Siri enabled on my phone, but a lot of people do.

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I mean, that is just Alexa, like you said, those kinds of things.

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We've had AI helping us, iRobots, we've had AI helping us for a long time.

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It's not new, it's just becoming a little bit more mainstream.

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And I think, C, you brought up a point like, when are we going to get there?

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And technologically, I would guess that we're there.

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Like from a technical perspective, from a do it in the machines perspective, we're there.

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I think what we're missing is all the bells and whistles and lights and hydro powered

capabilities that, know, Creepy Guy had in making the technology humanized.

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Right?

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Alexa has a human voice.

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Our GPS has a human voice.

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We give our robots and our cars and our whatever, names.

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We humanize them if they don't come humanized.

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And so we may technologically be there, but we have to put that human element in it.

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And people always say, AI, you know, it's gonna take over the world.

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know, humans are not gonna be needed.

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I would argue that we as

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humans require that human component to all that we interact with, even our AI.

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Tammy's going have to be programming all those AI elements that are helping us around the

house.

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need somebody.

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need, I know that they now say that you can ask ChatGPT to do coding for you, but still

there has to be a human element to test it.

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There has to be a human element to train on it.

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We're needed for a while.

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It is.

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So Tammy, okay.

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So we just threw you under the bus there.

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So coding and programming and designing for something of this state.

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Could you envision yourself if you're working on a project?

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Is robotics something that you even thought about?

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Yes, I have considered it in the past.

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And I think that even when like the beginning of AI started to happen, I was already like

preparing myself like, if this job of mine is going to get like automated, should try to

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like, I should try to adapt and just try to see what I can still do and what it like is

still needed in the field.

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And I really like the point that

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Jessica brought up because nature versus nurture in that experiment, you know, they had a

baby monkey and there was a robot monkey with milk and then there was just a fur monkey,

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but it only provided warmth.

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in the experiment, even though the robot monkey had the milk for the baby monkey, it only

went to the one with the fur because, you know, we just, think nature.

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To add on with the AI, of, you know, Maria's body being used without her consent.

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I think I see a connection in this world today where people just post videos and pictures

online, but then that will get grouped into datasets and training the AI models.

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And then sometimes, you know, deep fakes are created.

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then just by like posting a picture or sharing a video, your face is out there somewhere.

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And sometimes it can be used without your consent.

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I just saw that connection with them using Maria and turning her into a robot.

446

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You know what's really interesting is, you know, that idea of, essence, the way your

generation phrases things is ultimately what I would say my generation, by the way, I

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couldn't resist, had to wear it, is data and privacy, right?

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How much autonomy do we have over our own visage, right?

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How much autonomy do we have of our own voice, right?

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Because we know that, that can absolutely...

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whatever wants to emulate and duplicate this voice, good luck on you.

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But I think it's a very interesting point.

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And I do think I'm glad that you guys are considering and thinking that way.

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It is a different, slightly different perspective and lens, but it still matters as far as

who owns this, right?

455

00:36:11,919 --> 00:36:22,574

Because if we give into platforms, and this is going to be streaming on all the social

media platforms, well, I've had to tailor it down, but like,

456

00:36:22,574 --> 00:36:27,714

LinkedIn and YouTube, for example, we are still subject to their policies.

457

00:36:27,714 --> 00:36:33,674

We are still subject to what they deem is appropriate because it is owned by a private

entity.

458

00:36:33,674 --> 00:36:33,974

Right.

459

00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:36,134

So I love the point you make.

460

00:36:36,214 --> 00:36:38,974

Jessica, I would love to go back to what you made.

461

00:36:39,414 --> 00:36:48,374

idea of technologically speaking, we can do the Rosie, you know, robot and all that stuff.

462

00:36:49,774 --> 00:36:52,130

But I think.

463

00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:54,792

Just more cynically, I'm thinking pure business.

464

00:36:54,792 --> 00:37:04,407

I don't think the return on investment is there yet to warrant us to mass produce these

types of robots because I think though we can do it technologically speaking, I don't know

465

00:37:04,407 --> 00:37:05,858

if we can do it mass.

466

00:37:06,178 --> 00:37:14,293

I don't think we're there yet to make it worth the business dollar investment for some

billionaire to invest into.

467

00:37:14,293 --> 00:37:19,886

That's my argument as to why we're not there yet is I think the price point to

468

00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:24,573

pay for that technology is just the appetite still not fully there yet.

469

00:37:24,573 --> 00:37:27,436

That's my, and then also let's be real.

470

00:37:27,436 --> 00:37:34,912

It doesn't help the robotics industry that they push out Boston dynamics as the use case

examples, right?

471

00:37:34,912 --> 00:37:40,076

With those, the robot that could do flips and swing and blah, blah, blah, right?

472

00:37:40,076 --> 00:37:42,028

Like that's just freaky.

473

00:37:42,088 --> 00:37:46,152

So anyway, ladies, I know we can keep talking about this.

474

00:37:46,152 --> 00:37:49,272

So I know we unfortunately have to wrap it up.

475

00:37:49,272 --> 00:37:57,751

But for final thoughts, you only saw like the first like me, you know, clips here, but we

didn't even go into the actual proper movie itself.

476

00:37:58,192 --> 00:38:07,512

Patricia, seeing those two clips again, would it inspire you to sit down with the kids and

be like, let's do a movie night and then hear their feedback and do your own reaction

477

00:38:07,512 --> 00:38:07,832

video?

478

00:38:07,832 --> 00:38:09,865

Is that some that you'd be interested in doing?

479

00:38:09,865 --> 00:38:10,844

you, you

480

00:38:10,844 --> 00:38:14,995

about my children or are you talking about my children's children?

481

00:38:17,151 --> 00:38:22,708

Your, your, your, actually give me your assessment of your children and your children's

children.

482

00:38:24,142 --> 00:38:35,862

can see that my, except for Jessica, could see that my other two children would get up and

say, I have way more important things to do than watch something this boring.

483

00:38:36,002 --> 00:38:37,382

They'd be out of there.

484

00:38:37,382 --> 00:38:40,602

are not people-pleaser.

485

00:38:40,802 --> 00:38:43,622

They wouldn't do it to please me.

486

00:38:44,502 --> 00:38:53,202

And the grandkids, I could see maybe some of the older ones might like the darkness.

487

00:38:53,908 --> 00:39:05,848

I can think of a few of my older grandkids that would like the darkness, then I can think

of a few of my older grandkids that would, they're very much in

488

00:39:05,848 --> 00:39:06,645

489

00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:14,057

They would not like it in the little ones and they'd go off and play.

490

00:39:14,914 --> 00:39:15,814

Got it.

491

00:39:15,995 --> 00:39:21,414

Okay, Jessica, I know you watch it you're like, hell no, not again.

492

00:39:21,414 --> 00:39:30,374

Okay, if they did voiceovers at least, would it have given you a little bit more enjoyment

with this movie?

493

00:39:30,374 --> 00:39:30,834

100%.

494

00:39:30,834 --> 00:39:32,406

Because you've seen it all the way through.

495

00:39:32,418 --> 00:39:36,140

Yeah, and listen, I'm all up for a good like subtitle movie.

496

00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:39,142

Like this even lacked in that area.

497

00:39:39,142 --> 00:39:44,255

I need some influence on me on what's going on.

498

00:39:44,255 --> 00:39:45,875

Maybe that's it.

499

00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:52,569

Like I was all in my mind having to think too much while being entertained.

500

00:39:52,569 --> 00:39:54,430

And that's not what I watch movies.

501

00:39:54,510 --> 00:39:56,951

You were missing the context.

502

00:39:58,032 --> 00:40:01,506

But then again, then they left it up to

503

00:40:01,506 --> 00:40:03,449

the watcher's imagination.

504

00:40:03,449 --> 00:40:03,980

too.

505

00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:06,974

So let's just think about our interpretations.

506

00:40:06,974 --> 00:40:10,438

all, all four of us interpreted things differently.

507

00:40:10,439 --> 00:40:11,521

Very much so.

508

00:40:11,521 --> 00:40:12,852

So there's that.

509

00:40:13,334 --> 00:40:22,029

Yeah, I love that I the beholder kind of leaving you up to think which I think it may be a

for cinematographers and all my movie making friends I'm sure that's a struggle right is

510

00:40:22,029 --> 00:40:27,062

like how will this movie or scene or Cut you'd be interpreted.

511

00:40:27,062 --> 00:40:28,233

So, okay, Tammy.

512

00:40:28,233 --> 00:40:32,305

We're leaving with you because you're the coolest generation coming up here, right?

513

00:40:33,326 --> 00:40:34,486

What do you think?

514

00:40:35,138 --> 00:40:38,000

This movie is a lot.

515

00:40:38,701 --> 00:40:46,665

I think people in my generation would have a harder time like sitting through the movie

and finishing it.

516

00:40:46,706 --> 00:40:52,570

Cause you know, we have this app called TikTok and it's just short videos that you swipe,

swipe, swipe.

517

00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:55,132

And sometimes there's like two videos playing at once.

518

00:40:55,132 --> 00:41:03,798

And it's, I think that's like heavily influenced like our younger generations, like

attention span.

519

00:41:03,798 --> 00:41:04,838

And so.

520

00:41:05,002 --> 00:41:14,716

I think sitting through the movie would be hard, but I think there is few people that

would appreciate the movie and sit back and be like, wow, like, I can't believe they

521

00:41:14,716 --> 00:41:23,060

predicted that all the way back then and just really contextualize themselves and realize

like how influential this movie is for being so old.

522

00:41:24,066 --> 00:41:24,496

hear you on that.

523

00:41:24,496 --> 00:41:29,197

You know what you just reminded me of and again just reminded me of how much older I am.

524

00:41:29,197 --> 00:41:30,948

Thanks Tammy.

525

00:41:31,868 --> 00:41:45,732

But back in the day when I was in my day in college we had this TV show called Friends and

we didn't have VCR like we had to run in and all meet up and we would be like I didn't do

526

00:41:45,732 --> 00:41:52,374

the dorm thing but I was a dorm groupie so it would be like you know movie nights or TV

night and we'd all run in.

527

00:41:52,374 --> 00:41:54,535

Watching this TV show together.

528

00:41:54,535 --> 00:42:03,321

I wonder if it would be something where metropolis would be one of those things where it's

like an event type thing not just a I almost said Netflix and chill not talking about

529

00:42:03,321 --> 00:42:09,684

talking about I see it almost like a group Viewing where you guys all can talk interact

and react to it, right?

530

00:42:09,684 --> 00:42:14,097

Versus like you by yourself Tammy or you and your friend like a friend, right?

531

00:42:14,097 --> 00:42:16,959

I feel like it because of the pace of it.

532

00:42:16,959 --> 00:42:19,680

I feel like it needs commentary from you guys to

533

00:42:20,184 --> 00:42:21,358

keep it interesting.

534

00:42:21,358 --> 00:42:21,839

don't know.

535

00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:27,490

Jessica, if you had a group of people watching it with you, do you think you might have

gotten a little bit more out of it?

536

00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:28,610

Totally.

537

00:42:28,711 --> 00:42:29,672

Yep.

538

00:42:29,672 --> 00:42:34,736

think the movie warrants itself to conversation.

539

00:42:35,878 --> 00:42:53,143

I could see it, there being a viewing down at the majestic theater in Dallas where

everybody came dressed up almost like a Rocky Horror Picture show thing where they, where

540

00:42:53,143 --> 00:42:53,994

I could,

541

00:42:55,712 --> 00:43:03,285

My son and my nephew did a Guinness Book of World Records movie marathon ages ago.

542

00:43:05,026 --> 00:43:09,888

they did it for what, like 48 hours and they had to have somebody sitting with them at all

times.

543

00:43:09,888 --> 00:43:16,911

And I know Jessica got to participate in the Rocky Horror Picture Show part of it.

544

00:43:17,551 --> 00:43:24,012

And I could just see that, I could see this movie lending itself very well to a cult

following and

545

00:43:24,012 --> 00:43:27,246

a lot of dialogue, people making up the dialogue as it goes.

546

00:43:27,246 --> 00:43:31,491

I would be engaged in, I would be interested in participating in something like that.

547

00:43:31,491 --> 00:43:32,742

That would be fun.

548

00:43:32,742 --> 00:43:33,283

my gosh.

549

00:43:33,283 --> 00:43:34,874

up subtitles.

550

00:43:34,915 --> 00:43:35,696

Okay, that's it.

551

00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:37,247

We're reaching out to the majestic people.

552

00:43:37,247 --> 00:43:42,883

Look, I go to the Granada all the time.

553

00:43:42,883 --> 00:43:45,774

We'll talk to, you know, Mike over there.

554

00:43:45,774 --> 00:43:46,856

I think that's a great idea.

555

00:43:46,856 --> 00:43:52,732

And I think what would be really cool is if there's like, even if it's like a high school

band that puts like the music together, right?

556

00:43:52,732 --> 00:43:59,714

Like, could you imagine or maybe, or maybe it would be like segments, maybe there might be

like an orchestra.

557

00:43:59,714 --> 00:44:03,896

Maybe in the very beginning and then as the movie progresses, it moves into a rock band.

558

00:44:03,896 --> 00:44:04,757

right.

559

00:44:04,757 --> 00:44:16,163

then theater group, maybe have the theater group like prompt everybody, everyone's so, oh,

and don't steal my idea people.

560

00:44:16,963 --> 00:44:18,309

I'm thinking this is going to be a genius.

561

00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:19,905

Watch them as you be like, you know, it's already been done.

562

00:44:19,905 --> 00:44:20,455

I don't care.

563

00:44:20,455 --> 00:44:23,747

Dallas is going to start it all over again.

564

00:44:23,827 --> 00:44:24,450

Poor Tammy.

565

00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:25,694

She's like, I will not go.

566

00:44:25,694 --> 00:44:26,702

I will not go.

567

00:44:26,702 --> 00:44:27,847

I love to go.

568

00:44:29,262 --> 00:44:31,044

would be fun if that, you're right.

569

00:44:31,044 --> 00:44:33,426

Well, you just made me think.

570

00:44:34,147 --> 00:44:36,949

Tammy, have you seen Rocky Horror Picture Show?

571

00:44:37,981 --> 00:44:38,852

my gosh.

572

00:44:38,852 --> 00:44:44,256

Okay, that's another movie that I know there's some technology takeaways you can do on

that.

573

00:44:44,562 --> 00:44:49,401

It's a little bit more on the, I will definitely have to edit some of those scenes.

574

00:44:50,573 --> 00:44:51,844

my goodness, okay.

575

00:44:51,844 --> 00:44:54,016

Ladies, we can keep talking all day.

576

00:44:54,102 --> 00:44:55,073

We've got to wrap this up.

577

00:44:55,073 --> 00:44:56,615

We got to like land this ship here.

578

00:44:56,615 --> 00:45:02,050

So on a scale of one to ten now that you've seen a couple clips Patricia a scale of one to

ten.

579

00:45:02,050 --> 00:45:07,308

How accurate do you think this this forward-thinking movie is from 1927?

580

00:45:07,608 --> 00:45:08,748

don't think it was far off.

581

00:45:08,748 --> 00:45:10,558

I'm still going with the 10.

582

00:45:11,307 --> 00:45:12,041

Nice.

583

00:45:12,041 --> 00:45:13,108

Jessica?

584

00:45:13,868 --> 00:45:15,490

I'm not going to change my answer either.

585

00:45:15,490 --> 00:45:16,762

I'm sticking with the eight.

586

00:45:16,762 --> 00:45:20,436

Conceptually, they had some great ideas there.

587

00:45:21,026 --> 00:45:22,453

Alright, now Tammy.

588

00:45:22,658 --> 00:45:27,392

I'll be moving up my five to an eight as well.

589

00:45:28,206 --> 00:45:28,716

Excellent.

590

00:45:28,716 --> 00:45:29,136

Excellent.

591

00:45:29,136 --> 00:45:30,017

Hey, you heard it.

592

00:45:30,017 --> 00:45:33,517

We've got all four generations here speaking up.

593

00:45:33,517 --> 00:45:37,020

wait, as Gen X, I mean, to me, think it's, I'd say it's a nine.

594

00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,330

It's really close.

595

00:45:38,650 --> 00:45:41,582

Especially considering none of that, what we're talking about really existed.

596

00:45:41,582 --> 00:45:42,752

So, eh, you're right.

597

00:45:42,752 --> 00:45:44,393

I'm going to go 9.57.

598

00:45:44,393 --> 00:45:46,504

All right, guys.

599

00:45:46,504 --> 00:45:49,975

So thank you so very much, Tammy, Jessica, Patricia.

600

00:45:49,975 --> 00:45:52,076

You guys are always welcome back to the show.

601

00:45:52,076 --> 00:45:55,217

I think we'll wrap that up for another episode of Technophile Real Talk.

602

00:45:55,217 --> 00:45:56,918

Until next time, guys.

603

00:45:56,952 --> 00:45:57,506

Thank you, CEO.

604

00:45:57,506 --> 00:45:58,951

Yeah, thank you.