Jenn:

Napoleon needs money.

Jenn:

And so he sells the Louisiana territory to our third president, Thomas Jefferson,

Jenn:

one of the best deals ever made.

Jenn:

So think of Storyville, a very historic place of New Orleans where

Jenn:

prostitution was legal and people would come to New Orleans for a good time.

Jenn:

You have these cats, I call them cats, Louis Armstrong.

Jenn:

It's born in this.

Jenn:

Area this, this sound is born in this area.

Jenn:

So anytime they tried to bury people in the ground, as soon as the river

Jenn:

would rise, people would float up and they would be like seeing like

Jenn:

grandma float down the streets.

Scott:

Welcome to Talk With History.

Scott:

I'm your host, Scott Griff, my wife and historian Jen.

Jenn:

Hello.

Scott:

On this podcast we give you insights to our history inspired

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while travel's YouTube channel journey, and examine history.

Scott:

Now, before we get into our main topic, I do want to ask for some

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Imagine 1699 Pierre Lemon navigated the murky water.

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waters of the Mississippi Delta in his wooden vessels cutting

Scott:

through cypress draped bayous.

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The humid air clung to his skin as a native guide pointed out

Scott:

passages through the swampland.

Scott:

This place breathes both life and danger, he wrote in his journal, where water and

Scott:

land Seemed locked in eternal negotiation.

Scott:

By 1718, his younger brother, Jean Baptist Limon, established the

Scott:

settlement that would become New Orleans.

Scott:

The early colonists faced a landscape both bountiful and brutal rich soil,

Scott:

deposited by the mighty Mississippi, but threatened by its floods.

Scott:

They learned to build on slightly elevated ground, creating a crescent

Scott:

shaped settlement that worked the river's natural patterns.

Scott:

They learn from the indigenous peoples about local plants and wildlife,

Scott:

essential knowledge for survival, the deadly summer, fever seasons,

Scott:

now known to be yellow fever.

Scott:

Decimated the population, with newcomers particularly vulnerable.

Scott:

Despite these hardships, a unique culture blossomed.

Scott:

Enslaved Africans brought agriculture, expertise in cultivating rice and indigo.

Scott:

The port's strategic position made it a crossroads of trade and culture where

Scott:

French Spanish, African, and indigenous influences merged into something entirely

Scott:

new, creating the foundations for the vibrant, resilient city that would emerge

Scott:

from those humble, struggling beginnings.

Scott:

All right, gents, so we got to go down to New Orleans because we have

Scott:

some friends that are Kind of from the area and are deeply involved in

Scott:

things like Mardi Gras, but we made a video kind of about the history of new

Scott:

Orleans, and this is a classic talk with history topic, the history of a place.

Scott:

So let's, let's talk a little bit about new Orleans, its origins and, and where.

Scott:

It's evolved from the 1600s really to today.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

So it's, it's a very basic history video of New Orleans.

Jenn:

We don't go real deep because we're just giving you like a little taste

Jenn:

of it because there's a lot there.

Jenn:

And like, Yeah.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

The opening tells you this is one of the places that is so influenced by

Jenn:

so many different cultures and They all come together in this mixing pot

Jenn:

to create like the Creole Culture and it is very interesting to see

Jenn:

how unique that is to the area.

Jenn:

There's no place else like New Orleans in America.

Jenn:

So like you said, it's founded by the French, John Baptiste.

Jenn:

And that name, you'll remember Sacagawea is going to name her son that like,

Jenn:

it's just so influential in those French trappers at the time, these people who

Jenn:

came over first and Explored the area, but it's founded in 1718, and it's named

Jenn:

for Philip II, the Duke of Orleans.

Jenn:

So it's named for him.

Jenn:

And you hear people say it so many different ways.

Jenn:

No, I've heard Nolans.

Jenn:

I've heard New Orleans.

Jenn:

I've heard New Orleans.

Jenn:

So.

Jenn:

I'm sure locals will have a certain way it's supposed to be said, uh, and I'm

Jenn:

sure there's a French way it's supposed to be said, but that'll show you how

Jenn:

much all these different cultures are mixing here in one location.

Jenn:

Uh, it's under French rule until 1763, whereas Spain will take over

Jenn:

the governing of the territory.

Jenn:

And from 1763 to 1802, it's very much Spanish influenced.

Jenn:

And both of these cultures really have a lot of Catholic influence.

Jenn:

So you're going to see that in New Orleans as well.

Jenn:

Mardi Gras, we'll talk more about that.

Jenn:

goes back to the French, back to Napoleon, the French first

Jenn:

republic from 1802 to 1803.

Jenn:

But if you, if you're a historian, you know, the Haitian revolution

Jenn:

is going on at that time.

Jenn:

And the French, uh, are the governing body of Haiti.

Jenn:

And with the Haitian revolution, they need money to fight that.

Jenn:

And so.

Jenn:

Napoleon needs money.

Jenn:

And so he sells the Louisiana territory to our third president, Thomas Jefferson, and

Jenn:

probably one of the best deals ever made.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And

Scott:

it really was, we kind of did a little segment on how you can see

Scott:

the influences still today of both the French and the Spanish, you know,

Scott:

it's, it really, I mean, you want to talk about a melting pot of culture.

Scott:

This is a melting pot of generational cultures that are still overseas, right?

Scott:

French and Spanish and you know, kind of the native, it

Scott:

turned into this Cajun thing.

Scott:

And it's super interesting.

Scott:

We talk about, um, we kind of show you the street signs that

Scott:

are on the building walls.

Scott:

They have these tiles, right?

Scott:

And obviously those are a bit more modern, but there.

Scott:

They're done in that style.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

Like if you go to Paris and you walk around, the street signs are put on the

Jenn:

side of the building so you can walk.

Jenn:

They're not like on poles, on signs.

Jenn:

They're on the side of the building and they also put them on tiles in

Jenn:

the sidewalk and it's just something that's unique to this, that Spanish

Jenn:

French culture that's different and.

Jenn:

Influence still today, the architecture is going to have that same kind of influence,

Jenn:

the food, the music and the religion.

Jenn:

So it's just so much culture there.

Jenn:

That's so different.

Jenn:

We'll touch on all of those.

Jenn:

And that's why this video is just like a touch on those things.

Jenn:

But, uh, I've been to New Orleans before you've been to New Orleans before.

Jenn:

This was the first time we did it together.

Jenn:

And we brought the kids with us.

Jenn:

So it really was a great experience.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

We got to stay relatively close down to kind of like the touristy area.

Scott:

So, I mean, we were less than a mile, maybe half a mile

Scott:

from kind of the whole, um,

Jenn:

French quarter,

Scott:

French quarter and Jackson square and cafe DuMont.

Scott:

And it was, it was just super fun to be able to take the kids there because we did

Scott:

dinner one night and that it was a very.

Scott:

culturally inspired menu, which was difficult with kids sometimes, but

Scott:

it was, it was good to try it, try something a little bit different.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And I recommend if you're going to stay in New Orleans for your first time and

Jenn:

really get a taste of it, stay close to the French Quarter cause you want to walk.

Scott:

Yeah.

Jenn:

It is a walking town.

Jenn:

It is not a driving town.

Jenn:

I don't even know where you would park close to the French Quarter.

Jenn:

It's better to have a hotel that has parking and then you

Jenn:

just leave your car and walk.

Jenn:

It's.

Jenn:

Very easily walkable.

Jenn:

I know sometimes you look at the map and go, Oh, that's a couple

Jenn:

blocks, but those blocks go by so fast and everybody's walking.

Jenn:

There's so much to see.

Jenn:

It really is.

Jenn:

The culture is set up for a walking town, a walking city.

Jenn:

So don't be intimidated by that.

Jenn:

That's what it's meant to do.

Jenn:

And my friends who are more locals to the area, Because the food is so rich

Jenn:

and because there's so much of it, the walking culture helps negate that.

Scott:

It totally does.

Scott:

It totally does.

Scott:

I mean, we had dinner downtown, down in the French Quarter a couple times.

Scott:

And, uh, in walking back to the hotel, again, maybe about a

Scott:

mile, a little less than that.

Scott:

Um, really did kind of help just your stomach process all of that, like

Scott:

rich food that you're eating with this rich sauce or whatever it was, right?

Scott:

You know, some things are a little bit sweeter than, than

Scott:

you're typically used to.

Scott:

And where we were staying, um, I don't remember what the hotel was, but there

Scott:

was a public parking garage that wasn't too bad, you know, that you could stay.

Scott:

And what's that main drag that we were on just outside the French Quarter?

Scott:

Um, Canal Street.

Jenn:

Canal Street.

Jenn:

So, and know that the names change once you cross Canal.

Jenn:

We were essentially on Bourbon, but that's not the name of the

Jenn:

street after you cross Canal.

Jenn:

It's a different name.

Jenn:

So make sure you're looking at a map while you're there because the names change.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So, so you can stay kind of outside the French Quarter.

Scott:

Like I'd say we were like two or three blocks from Canal Street and

Scott:

that's totally reasonable to do.

Scott:

I mean, our youngest is nine.

Scott:

She's going to turn 10 soon.

Scott:

And, and walking, you know, over to the French Quarter with the

Scott:

kids was very, very reasonable.

Scott:

So highly recommend doing something like that with, if you're trying to do it

Scott:

with a family, even if you're just doing it by yourself, parking's not too bad.

Scott:

I mean, we're, you can get all day parking, overnight parking

Scott:

in a local public parking garage.

Jenn:

And it was safe for the kids to walk.

Jenn:

And I will say if you pass Canal Street a little way from the

Jenn:

French Quarter, it's quieter.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

Because New Orleans is a city that really doesn't sleep.

Jenn:

either.

Jenn:

And so if you're going to be down on Bourbon, I mean, Cafe

Jenn:

Du Monde is open 24 hours.

Jenn:

So there are a lot of places down there open 24 hours.

Jenn:

So they just expect that lifestyle.

Jenn:

People have come there to have a good time.

Jenn:

And so if you're looking for quiet and family, I would

Jenn:

recommend staying off the quarter.

Scott:

Yeah, so those are the places to stay.

Scott:

Those are the places that we recommend to park.

Scott:

So let's talk a little bit more about some of like the more popular history spots.

Jenn:

So we started at the Jackson Square.

Jenn:

So Jackson Square is that big open area, like a park area, right in

Jenn:

the center of the French Quarter.

Jenn:

And it's named for Andrew Jackson, our seventh president, because he was the

Jenn:

leader of the Battle of New Orleans.

Jenn:

And it's this historic landmark.

Jenn:

It's been a historic landmark since 1960.

Jenn:

So you have that equestrian statue of Jackson in the middle, and it's about the

Jenn:

size of one city block and it has iron.

Jenn:

uh, fencing all around it.

Jenn:

That statue dates back from 1856.

Jenn:

So this has been here for a long time and you get all these

Jenn:

artists and street performers of New Orleans and it's really fun.

Jenn:

They stay outside of that gate.

Jenn:

But they're all registered there.

Jenn:

So when you walk by, you can see their art, you can buy their art

Jenn:

and you can get caricatures drawn.

Jenn:

You can have your, your palm read.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

They've got street performers, jugglers, you know, all the, all the kind of

Scott:

classic fun stuff, but the squares is kind of bookended on each side by the

Scott:

cathedral, which we'll talk a little bit more about and then the river.

Scott:

So you can actually do a little bit of like the river walk there.

Scott:

Um, and then Café du Monde is, is kind of catty corner to it.

Scott:

And we'll, we'll talk a little bit more about that as well.

Jenn:

Sure.

Jenn:

So just know that the Battle of New Orleans is, that's where

Jenn:

Andrew Jackson makes his name.

Jenn:

That's why he's there in the middle of the square.

Jenn:

And that was a battle from the War of 1812 that essentially happens

Jenn:

after the war is over, but the news hasn't gotten to America yet.

Jenn:

And It's a tremendous success for America.

Jenn:

I mean, the Americans are outnumbered, but in the end they, the Jackson

Jenn:

is overwhelmingly successful.

Jenn:

Only 70 Americans die as opposed to 2000 British.

Jenn:

And he really makes his name for himself.

Jenn:

I would say he becomes president because of this battle.

Jenn:

So that's why it's named for him.

Jenn:

That's why his statue's in the middle.

Jenn:

But yes, we walked over to Cafe Du Monde.

Jenn:

I built it up for the kids.

Jenn:

It's very.

Jenn:

Fun place to go.

Jenn:

It's a landmark of New Orleans.

Jenn:

It is the oldest coffee shop in New Orleans and they sell, um, beignets,

Jenn:

which beignets are French donuts.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Essentially like it's like a donut square, right?

Scott:

So it doesn't actually, it's not a circle, right?

Scott:

It's just a square of the same kind of stuff with powdered sugar.

Jenn:

Tons of powdered sugar.

Jenn:

It's really good.

Jenn:

and coffee.

Jenn:

And so if they take cash, so make sure you have cash,

Scott:

cash only,

Jenn:

cash only, but it's open 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Jenn:

And I know there will usually be a line, but it moves quickly.

Jenn:

And if you go into the back area where there's like a little alleyway, you

Jenn:

can look through the window where they actually make the beignets and

Jenn:

it's neat to watch them do that.

Jenn:

And we have a video of our daughter doing that.

Jenn:

So we.

Jenn:

ate there.

Jenn:

It's just a staple of New Orleans.

Jenn:

It's a great place to go.

Jenn:

And from there, we walked around and looked at like the architecture and

Jenn:

some of the influence of New Orleans.

Jenn:

So no, you know, New Orleans claims to be the birthplace of jazz.

Jenn:

And because I had talked about all this different culture

Jenn:

coming together in New Orleans.

Jenn:

it makes sense for why it's the birthplace of jazz.

Jenn:

They say in 1835, the enslaved would congregate around Jackson

Jenn:

square and play music on Sundays.

Jenn:

And then in the mid 1910s, um, this ragtime brass instruments start to kind of

Jenn:

take shape and it's influenced by, again, the enslaved songs, the Spanish culture,

Jenn:

the French culture, and this musical.

Jenn:

influence that comes from the area was kind of like a good time area.

Jenn:

So think of Storyville is a very historic place of New Orleans where

Jenn:

prostitution was legal and people would come to New Orleans for a good time.

Jenn:

And so this is the type of music they would play.

Jenn:

with that good time kind of idea.

Jenn:

And so jazz, you have these cats, I call them cats, Louis Armstrong.

Jenn:

It's born in this area.

Jenn:

This this sound is born in this area.

Jenn:

And so they claim to be the birthplace of jazz.

Jenn:

So you can hear jazz coming out of different places that you walk by.

Jenn:

It's very cool.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And there's always like kind of street bands and stuff like that performing

Scott:

all throughout that whole area.

Scott:

So.

Scott:

You, there's no, no escaping, you know, the, the, the jazz in that area.

Scott:

Cause you're always going to have somebody performing, you know,

Scott:

something or, I think the very first time that I ever visited was I was

Scott:

doing a Navy school, not too far away, visited city for the weekend.

Scott:

And I ended up like in jazz festival, I think it was April ish and, um,

Scott:

and jazz festival was even more so.

Scott:

There was.

Scott:

Uh, literally a jazz band on every other street corner.

Scott:

And so you're just walking around eating crawfish, getting sunburned,

Scott:

all that, all the fun stuff.

Jenn:

That's super cool.

Jenn:

So as we walked around that area, the first, one of the first things you're

Jenn:

going to see is, um, a statue of Joan of Arc and she's a big golden statue.

Jenn:

She, that statue was put up in 1999, but she is the maid of Orleans.

Jenn:

And that's why it's on there because in 1425, you know, she's 13 years old.

Jenn:

She hears those voices.

Jenn:

That are telling her to, uh, provide aid to Charles II in the hundred

Jenn:

Years War, and she's a successful leader of that battle, uh, and

Jenn:

drove the English out of Orleans.

Jenn:

So that's why she is the maid of Orleans now.

Jenn:

She's captured in 1430.

Jenn:

She's killed in 1431, uh, and for, for heresy, and she's burned at the stake.

Jenn:

So a lot of that again.

Jenn:

religion, witchcraft kind of thing that's kind of around New Orleans.

Jenn:

Uh, but she's becomes a patron saint and New Orleans really embraces

Jenn:

her as the maid of New Orleans.

Jenn:

So there's a really cool statue to her right there off of Jackson Square.

Jenn:

And as we walked down one of the streets, so much of the architecture is just so

Jenn:

different and unique that I wanted to talk about it because a lot of it has to

Jenn:

do with Mardi Gras and people standing on the second stories of these buildings.

Jenn:

And what are they standing on?

Jenn:

There's different names for if it's at a balcony or if it's a gallery, a balcony

Jenn:

will not have any kind of braces that come down to the second, to the first floor.

Jenn:

Gallery has those long stanchions or braces that come all the way down to the

Jenn:

first floor and provide more structure.

Jenn:

Sometimes they're a little longer, they can stick out a little longer

Jenn:

because they're more sturdy.

Jenn:

And you'll see people throwing beads from there, especially

Jenn:

during Mardi Gras, or you'll see people up there having a good time.

Jenn:

And so that's just a lot of that architecture of New Orleans, a

Jenn:

balcony or gallery depends on if it's coming, if the structure comes

Jenn:

all the way down to the first floor.

Jenn:

But we also talk about shotgun houses,

Scott:

which

Jenn:

is also very unique to New Orleans.

Jenn:

Now you'll see them in other areas of the South.

Jenn:

They really are unique to a lot of the houses in New Orleans, which basically

Jenn:

is rooms just flooding into other rooms.

Jenn:

All the way to the back door.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So, so for our listeners, if you picture it in your mind, if you walked in the

Scott:

front door, let's say you'd walk into the living room and there's no rooms

Scott:

veering off to the right or the left.

Scott:

If you walk straight ahead, you do not turn at all.

Scott:

You're going to walk through, say the living room, then the kitchen,

Scott:

then a bedroom, then another bedroom or something like that.

Scott:

So you're just walking in a straight line.

Scott:

Through the house and you're passing through each room along the way.

Scott:

So that's what they mean when they say shotgun house.

Scott:

And I had actually heard this term before, but until I made the video

Scott:

and kind of found a good picture example online for those watching, um,

Scott:

I'll kind of put that up, but, uh, I hadn't really realized what it was.

Scott:

It was really interesting because that's just not in America.

Scott:

Like that's not the typical home style.

Jenn:

Well, it's interesting because there's no privacy.

Jenn:

Right.

Jenn:

You have to walk through a bedroom to go to another bedroom.

Jenn:

Usually you have to walk through all of the bedrooms to go to the bathroom.

Jenn:

And there's one bathroom.

Jenn:

So it's just one of those homes that's built for necessity and easy.

Jenn:

I say the ease, the easiness of the construction.

Jenn:

but it's not a, there's no privacy there.

Jenn:

So, you know, you're, this family is close and, uh, but now they've just so

Jenn:

become such a cultural icon that people have really built them up and they, they,

Jenn:

they just, they uphold that authentic.

Jenn:

So you can still see how neat it is to kind of go from room to room

Jenn:

to room, but just make sure you're really close with the people.

Jenn:

If you're going to Airbnb or Shotgun, because you're going to be

Jenn:

walking through everyone's bedroom.

Scott:

It's definitely something you're going to do with the family.

Scott:

Maybe the parents are staying in the back room.

Scott:

The kids are staying in the, in the, in the front room,

Jenn:

but we went, I really thought it was important.

Jenn:

This, this two other, this, this.

Jenn:

more other structures on Jackson Square.

Jenn:

One of them is St. Louis Cathedral.

Jenn:

And this cathedral has been around since, since 1718.

Jenn:

It was when it was first built, but there was a big fire in New Orleans in 1788.

Jenn:

And so it was rebuilt in the 1850s.

Jenn:

So what you see today is the rebuilt 1850 cathedral, but it's named

Jenn:

for, of course, the King of France.

Jenn:

And it's just another one of those landmarks of Jackson Square.

Jenn:

So when you see the equestrian statue of Andrew Jackson, usually it's a It's

Jenn:

silhouetted behind by St. Louis Cathedral.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And it

Scott:

looks like something straight out of a Disney movie, right?

Scott:

If you're looking at the front of it, it is a classic cathedral look to it.

Scott:

Very kind of Catholic style and we got to go in, they have like a whole museum

Scott:

in there and everything like that.

Scott:

It was pretty neat.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

So.

Jenn:

Bear in mind how much the Catholic influences are in

Jenn:

Louisiana in general, right?

Jenn:

Louisiana is named for the King of France and their counties are called parishes.

Jenn:

So when you hear different parishes, you're like, what is that?

Jenn:

It's not churches.

Jenn:

They're talking about the counties of Louisiana.

Jenn:

I think it's the only state that names its counties parishes.

Jenn:

So just.

Jenn:

Bear that in mind, right beside the St. Louis Cathedral is the

Jenn:

Cabildo and the Cabildo was the original city hall of Louisiana.

Jenn:

I recommend going in there.

Jenn:

It is a cost, but it's, it's.

Jenn:

It's not that much.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

It was

Scott:

like 10 bucks a person, maybe a little less.

Jenn:

But there's the things to, you want to be, if you want to walk in

Jenn:

history, that's the building you want to go into because that's where the papers

Jenn:

for the Louisiana purchase came to.

Jenn:

That's where they were ratified.

Jenn:

That's where they actually like stamped them and like.

Jenn:

This, this is the validation that we own this territory.

Jenn:

Now, uh, they have Napoleon's death mask in there.

Jenn:

They have a huge painting of Napoleon in there.

Jenn:

What I thought was really neat is they have, uh, the original tombstone

Jenn:

for Homer Plessy and Plessy.

Jenn:

is going to bring that landmark Supreme Court case against, um, Ferguson

Jenn:

and it goes to the Supreme Court.

Jenn:

And this is where that separate but equal decision is made by the Supreme Court.

Jenn:

This is an 18 96.

Jenn:

And Plessy is a free man of color who buys a ticket for a white only railroad car in

Jenn:

Louisiana, and he's not allowed to ride.

Jenn:

And so he takes the state to court.

Jenn:

It goes all the way to the Supreme Court and Supreme Court upholds it.

Jenn:

And that's where that separate but equal comes from.

Jenn:

And that's the law until it's overturned by Brown versus the

Jenn:

Board of Education in 1954.

Jenn:

But this man and his influence in New Orleans and Louisiana is felt in American

Jenn:

history and his tombstone is in there.

Scott:

So it says it right on there.

Scott:

Plessy versus Ferguson.

Scott:

Right.

Scott:

And, and again, here in the United States, that's, that's a case

Scott:

that we all classically learn in our U. S. history classes.

Jenn:

And I recommend if you've never been to New Orleans before, do a cemetery tour.

Jenn:

They are so neat.

Jenn:

And the culture is so unique to Louisiana.

Jenn:

So in Louisiana, you can't, and in New Orleans and specifically,

Jenn:

you can't be buried in the ground.

Jenn:

They're too close to sea level.

Jenn:

I'd say within 10, within like 10 feet.

Jenn:

So anytime they tried to bury people in the ground, as soon as the river

Jenn:

would rise, people would float up and they would be like seeing their

Jenn:

grandma float down the street.

Jenn:

So people got, Oh my gosh, what can we do?

Jenn:

And so they started to bury people above ground in these tombs.

Jenn:

And What happens in New Orleans, because it's so hot, if you've ever been to

Jenn:

the South, is they bury people in these tombs, or I would say bury, they entomb

Jenn:

them in these tombs for a year and a day in just plain clothes, wrapped in

Jenn:

like a burlap sack, and in a year and a day, they open the tomb and you're

Jenn:

like, Oh my gosh, what will they find?

Jenn:

I'll tell you.

Jenn:

They just find bones.

Jenn:

After a year and a day, no matter when you are entombed, after that

Jenn:

full year cycle and the heat of New Orleans, it's basically like an oven.

Jenn:

And after a year and a day, when they open it up and that's part of their funeral

Jenn:

culture is Nothing is left but your bones.

Jenn:

So they celebrate that and you'll see those kind of funeral lines where

Jenn:

they have the umbrella and they're dancing, they're celebrating their dead.

Jenn:

And so they open it up, they bring the bones out, they celebrate that.

Jenn:

And then they put the bones back in the tomb and they go back into a

Jenn:

shoot in the very back of the tomb.

Jenn:

And that tomb is, Reused by family.

Jenn:

And so if you look on a tomb and it has like 15, 16 names and you're like,

Jenn:

how can they all be in that one box?

Jenn:

All their bones are in that box.

Jenn:

And so the question is what happens if two people from the

Jenn:

same family die in the same year?

Jenn:

A lot of people rent out the tombs right next to them or below them

Jenn:

because their family member hasn't died.

Jenn:

And so you can rent out those.

Jenn:

And after a year and a day when your bones are pulled out,

Jenn:

you're just put in your families.

Scott:

Oh, I didn't know that.

Jenn:

Tomb.

Jenn:

So there.

Jenn:

Their funeral culture is so unique and different and it

Jenn:

has so much history around it.

Jenn:

I definitely recommend doing that tour and that's what they have in the Cabildo.

Jenn:

They have Homer Plessy's face plate of his tomb, his first one,

Jenn:

because they've had to replace it.

Jenn:

And so that first one is in the Cabildo.

Jenn:

And William McKinley, the very first sitting president to visit

Jenn:

New Orleans in 1901, will speak from that second floor of the Cabildo.

Jenn:

So it's kind of neat to to be there and stand there and know

Jenn:

that he made that speech there.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So he's kind of speaking out towards Jackson square from the, from the

Scott:

Cabildo, which is really neat.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

It's, it's the old city hall from 1795 to 1799.

Jenn:

So there's just a lot of history about prisoners in there and, and different

Jenn:

court cases that were in there.

Jenn:

So it's just a neat place.

Jenn:

Again, if you're with your family, if you want to see something

Jenn:

historic like that, do that.

Jenn:

But if.

Jenn:

This is your first visit to New Orleans.

Jenn:

I definitely recommend doing a cemetery tour.

Jenn:

They're right there off of the French Quarter.

Jenn:

You'll hear the St. Louis number one, St. Louis number two.

Jenn:

That's kind of what they're named.

Jenn:

And, uh, and it's really neat to go and do those.

Scott:

And there's lots of little things that you can do just walking

Scott:

around the French Quarter, right?

Scott:

We went into an old bookshop.

Scott:

They've got tons of art galleries, tons of art galleries, and, and.

Scott:

These are like the artists, we, we talked to the artist in this one art gallery and

Scott:

he's, he's like, Hey, do you like my art?

Scott:

We're like, Oh my gosh, I didn't, we didn't realize it was his.

Scott:

And I was talking to Jen and said, Hey, I didn't realize like his

Scott:

art, just such a thing down here.

Scott:

And part of it's the culture.

Scott:

And part of it is this is just a, this is actually a worldwide destination, right?

Scott:

There's people from all over the world that are visiting

Scott:

this part of the United States.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And like you said, there's so much.

Jenn:

Like you had opened with the initial, the person who first visited

Jenn:

there and how it was such a unique combination of water and land and how

Jenn:

they're kind of fighting for that.

Jenn:

That's what's always happened in Louisiana, in that area.

Jenn:

So, so much of that vegetation and that.

Jenn:

Life is captured on canvas.

Jenn:

And so it is really beautiful to see that.

Jenn:

And so, yeah, you can purchase the art right there and buy it.

Jenn:

And some of those artists have gone on to become very famous.

Jenn:

So you could be on the ground floor getting some of that influential art.

Scott:

Yeah, it was.

Scott:

It was really, really neat and like there's even fun things that you can

Scott:

kind of talk to talk to the kids about because I think one of the alleys

Scott:

next to the cathedral they call it Pirate's Alley because, you know,

Scott:

kind of legend goes that back in the day that's where pirates would be or

Scott:

they would, you know, somebody stayed there and there's specific names to it.

Scott:

I didn't look too deeply into it for the video because this again, this

Scott:

was kind of just a taste of kind of classic historic New Orleans went for

Scott:

a run down there and it was awesome because you could run along the river.

Scott:

They have like a steamboat type thing.

Scott:

Um, that you can jump on if you want to.

Scott:

So just lots of really fun, classic tourist, uh, kind of cultural experiences

Scott:

that you can go out and find there.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

And we were there for Mardi Gras.

Jenn:

So Mardi Gras is New Orleans.

Jenn:

People always know it for Mardi Gras, right?

Jenn:

And it, it means fat Tuesday.

Jenn:

Like that's what Mardi Gras means.

Jenn:

And so this is the lead up to Lent again, all this.

Jenn:

Catholic influence there.

Jenn:

And it began, it usually, it coincides with carnival and

Jenn:

it usually begins in January.

Jenn:

It was brought to America in 1699 and the first parade takes

Jenn:

place in New Orleans in 1837.

Jenn:

But We have friends who are big into this culture.

Jenn:

It's just really big into tradition.

Jenn:

And there's certain families that have upheld this tradition

Jenn:

for years and generations, and they do these elaborate floats.

Jenn:

They have themes.

Jenn:

Sometimes they're gender specific, only men and only women.

Jenn:

They have to stay masked the entire time, but know that.

Jenn:

The whole attitude is abundance.

Jenn:

So when you go to these parades, you're getting the best beads, the

Jenn:

best light up things, the little, like they're not throwing out chintzy stuff.

Jenn:

They're throwing out the best things.

Jenn:

And so when you, it's, it's abundance and these.

Jenn:

parade people who do this for, you know, a part of their culture

Jenn:

and lifestyle, they make sure that you get the abundance of it.

Jenn:

So it was so neat to see these floats before they went out and we

Jenn:

sat in the throne for who is going to be like their grand Marshall.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So essentially we have some friends that kind of help.

Scott:

Help run one of the main parades that go through.

Scott:

Um, and so they invited us out to kind of like a locals only

Scott:

and they call them a crew.

Scott:

K R E W E. So we got invited to kind of like the, the crew.

Scott:

I said this is like basically a week or two before the main Mardi Gras events.

Scott:

And so we got to go to this warehouse and see all the floats before

Scott:

they were getting ready to be.

Scott:

You know, toad through New Orleans and all this stuff.

Scott:

And I guess Shaq was supposed to be this year's, um, a kind of,

Scott:

I don't know what they call him.

Jenn:

Yeah.

Jenn:

It's not, I forget the name, but it's like a grand marshal.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

He's kind of like grand marshal for this, for this was the Bacchus crew, right?

Scott:

That's what our friends do.

Scott:

And um, it was really, really neat.

Scott:

And talking to people about the different floats and, and.

Scott:

learning how they have kind of the different stages of how much

Scott:

they help out and all this stuff.

Scott:

It was really, really cool.

Scott:

And it's not just.

Scott:

What you've kind of heard, you know, it's not just drinking and all that stuff.

Scott:

There's, you know, formal balls and there's all this stuff that they're

Scott:

doing and they've been doing this for generations which was really neat

Scott:

and then each crew kind of ends with a certain thing and they all kind

Scott:

of have their own way of Doing this that and the other because really

Scott:

need to be able to learn about that that piece of New Orleans history I

Jenn:

mean, they're very dedicated and it's It's wrought in

Jenn:

tradition, and they make sure it's carried out to a tee every year.

Jenn:

They want people to experience this, and it's part of their

Jenn:

celebration of their culture.

Jenn:

Um, the colors, you know, I think people know the colors of New

Jenn:

Orleans are kind of like This yellow, green, and purple, that's kind of

Jenn:

like the Mardi Gras colors as well.

Jenn:

And they have like the king cake and there's certain kind

Jenn:

of pastries and things that are associated with Mardi Gras.

Jenn:

So it was really neat to go there and to see it firsthand.

Jenn:

We ended up eating with the kids at this place called the court.

Jenn:

two sisters and it's been around.

Jenn:

It's also very traditional place 1726 there in New Orleans and they have a

Jenn:

gate there blessed by Queen Isabella who was the Queen of Spain and that

Jenn:

you'll get charm if you touch the gate you'll be charming and That

Jenn:

courtyard is famous for Marie Laveau.

Jenn:

She's the voodoo princess of New Orleans.

Jenn:

And they say she did some of her rituals at night by the wishing well there.

Jenn:

It's also known for pirates.

Jenn:

I think it's pirate Lafitte was out there doing duels

Jenn:

underneath the willow tree there.

Jenn:

So if you want to go to a place and eat and sit in the courtyard like we

Jenn:

did and eat some French cuisine and be surrounded by some French history.

Jenn:

It was right there on Royale Street.

Jenn:

It was a really great place to sit and eat.

Jenn:

It was recommended by our Mardi Gras friends.

Jenn:

And, uh, I definitely recommend if you're going to go there and you want

Jenn:

to be in a historic place to partake of that French, you know, French cuisine.

Jenn:

It's definitely the place to be

Scott:

as we wrap up our journey through the rich history of New Orleans.

Scott:

I hope you're inspired to experience this unique city for yourself.

Scott:

The spirit of those early settlers lives on in the vibrant music

Scott:

echoing through the French Quarter.

Scott:

The distinctive Creole and Cajun flavors that tantalize your taste buds, and

Scott:

the resilient community that has faced countless challenges, yet continues to

Scott:

celebrate life with unmatched exuberance.

Scott:

When you visit New Orleans, take time to wander beneath the Spanish moss

Scott:

draped oaks in City Park, explore the historic above ground cemeteries that

Scott:

tell stories of generations past, and lose yourself in the rhythm of a city.

Scott:

second line parade.

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Sample a steaming bowl of gumbo or indulge in powdery beignets at Café du Monde.

Scott:

Each experience connects you directly with the diverse cultural threads that have

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been woven together over three centuries.

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The city that began as a struggling outpost in a swamp has transformed

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into a cultural treasure unlike any other in America.

Scott:

Yet despite all its changes, New Orleans maintains that same cultural

Scott:

fusion that defined its earliest days.

Scott:

It remains a place where history isn't just preserved in museums,

Scott:

it's lived daily through traditions passed down through generations.

Scott:

So until next time, laissez bon temps rouler.

Scott:

Let the good times roll.

Jenn:

Thank you.

Scott:

It's like, uh, Talladega Nights, where he's like, first

Scott:

time he gets interviewed.

Scott:

This has been a Walk With History production.

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Talk With History is created and hosted by me, Scott Benny.

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Episode researched by Jennifer Benny.

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