Welcome back to Hot Breath.

I am your host, comedian Joel Byers, and we are all about comics helping comics here, which is how today's episode came to be last year here in Atlanta.

Hot Breath Jimmy Crump gave me two tickets to see Jim Brewer live at center stage.

I brought hop breather Jim Chappell along with me.

John Chappell.

He's going to kill me for getting his name wrong.

But long story short, after the show we snuck into the VIP line, got to meet Jim's opener and Jim himself.

John then books Jim's opener.

John perform here in Atlanta.

And tonight, my guest today is also performing with a gym back here in Atlanta.

We are all on the mission of cultivating the next generation of self made comics and our guest today is definitely one of those.

So please welcome to the hot breath of our hot Brethren and sister, Mr. Joe Sib.

Welcome.

I just remembered that we met in that line.

Yeah, we, we kind of, we kind of snuck into it.

We, we just didn't have our.

Everyone had their badges and we just kind of did.

And we just kind of stood there like this and went to the very back of the line.

I remember you guys dipped in and I went out there and everyone has their VIP thing on and you guys were kind of sliding in.

And then you guys rolled up to me and you're like, hey, you know, do you think we could meet Jim?

And I was like, well, yeah, I mean, if, if you got the meet and greet, you're like, well, we're comics.

And right away I'm like, yeah, you can meet.

Yeah.

And I remember at the end, as you guys were rolling up, you know, I was like, jim, these guys are comics.

And like, his whole Persona totally shifted from like, from like, hi, nice to meet you.

Can I take the photo?

Move along.

And as soon as he found out you guys were.

And not that he's not like that, he's super, you know, obviously cool with all the fans.

I don't want anyone to get bummed.

Right.

Hey, I met Jim and he doesn't like me.

No.

But I could tell as soon as he knew you guys were comics, like, his shoulders, like dropped.

He's like, what's up?

Yeah.

He hung with you guys for a while.

Yeah, we stood there and talked for a while.

Yeah.

And that's what I've learned from doing comedy for so long and then also interviewing so many comedians on here is there is just, there's an instant rapport we have with each other that no matter the level, when you meet another Comic.

It's always like, oh, of the same, the same ilk.

The word that I been hearing a lot is when people say, you know, when you meet someone that's not a comic, you call them like a civilian.

Yeah.

And I was like, really?

Are we going to compare being a comic to the military?

Like, I definitely am not worried about, like my car exploding because I've told a bad joke or something, you know, or something terrible happening, so.

But lately I kind of understand why people use that analogy, because when you do find someone that's a comic, at least for me, whether they're an open micr, just starting out, they're, you know, someone that's been doing it forever.

There is.

And it's funny because even the comic that's huge in, in me, that meets the comic that's not huge, they immediately kind of have this connection and whether, and I, you know, I've been fortunate to meet so many great comics and there is just this common bond, no matter who they are, where they are in their career, that they're just like, oh, you're a comic, I'm a comic.

And then immediately you drop into talking about, you know, oh, dude, did you roll through, you know, such and such club that Green Room has?

Or if you're really close, how did it happen for them?

What are they doing?

You know, it's like you just immediately everyone starts talking, you know, and talking about material and it's, it's.

I love it.

It is definitely, it feels.

When you're a comedian and you're dealing with new comics and, and older comics, there is this connection that is some sort of strange underworld community that is only understood by the people that are doing it.

Yeah.

Because I've, I've had friends and you know, even relationships with people that, that they just don't understand.

Why would you go to Slow Brew, Slow Pour, you know, on a pouring night and Tuesday, you know, and do a, do a set, you know, at this restaurant, slash bar, slash comedy club, and you're like, because that's what I want to do.

And, and I've thought about doing it all day.

You know, that's comedy.

It's like, that's all I think about all day long.

Yeah.

You flew in a day early or you came in a day early to do John's show last night, which was incredible.

Yeah.

I don't know about incredible.

So generous.

It was incredible for John.

It was, I was going to say it was incredible for John for having me and generous for, for him to have me There.

And it was a killer room.

I don't know Nick's last name.

Nick.

And Billy opened up.

Nick.

Oh, Billy Willig.

And.

And I'm not sure.

I wasn't there, so I'm not sure.

But Nick, he's from Atlanta.

Black hair, goatee, Super.

I know who you're talking about.

God, we got to get his name because he was so killer.

He is.

I've done several shows with him.

Yeah, so he does the Herschel Walker joke.

He does a great.

Just great material.

Starbar a lot.

Yeah.

Joel, if you can.

We got Joel on the ones and twos over here.

The producer's name is Joel.

I feel like when you see Rogan, look it up.

I know.

I can't believe I'm forgetting his name because he is very funny, and he's one of, like, the.

The biggest comics here in Atlanta.

Yeah.

Super funny guy.

But everyone was great on the show.

And then.

And then the.

The.

The best part about it was there was actually, like a real crowd there.

So.

Yeah, I was really psyched for it.

But, yeah, I mean, that's what you.

Nick Murphy.

There you go.

Nick Murphy.

Yeah, he was great.

Yeah, he's very funny.

Super funny.

He has a very stoic voice.

Like, when he was talking to me, I was like, wow, I wish I had a voice like that.

Like, he does not use the words like and dude and bro.

Like, he just bomb fires away.

And he has.

He has a joke about his dad being in Qanon.

Did he do that last night?

No.

So funny.

I just love.

I love watching a comedian and you learn about them and it's authentically them, and you get a feel of who they are and where they came from.

I definitely got that feeling from him.

Yeah, he definitely does that.

Yeah, he was.

He was great.

He's one of those comics, too, that, like, I was watching his set because he went on before me, and I knew that he was doing really well and that I was enjoying it because I forgot that I had to do a show.

Yeah.

And I suddenly, like, just bolted out of there.

I'm like, okay, I can't watch him anymore.

I'll get in my head.

Yeah, yeah.

I'll start going like, okay, there's no way I can.

Why am I here?

Okay.

I can't follow that.

You know, I just.

You start.

You'll.

You'll even think that now.

Oh, totally.

Really?

Yeah, all the time.

Like, the self doubt.

Yeah.

Even when I was taking a leak before I came up here, I, like, looked in the mirror all Right.

You can do.

You know, I don't know, I just get.

Sometimes you just get in your head.

I don't know if it's because I drink too much coffee or.

I mean there could be anxiety from.

Yeah, you know, I don't know.

Yeah, I think, I don't know.

I think when you.

Not that I have self doubt, like, oh God, I can't pull it but you know, as you just.

I think for me personally, I always want to deliver at a certain level.

I always want to come out and get on stage and do the best that I can.

So for me, a long time ago, I learned when I, I used to think when I first started, I should watch everyone set.

Like I'd be on a show with like, you know, as all of us, 10 people, right?

Yeah.

And you're in the middle or you're at the beginning or you're at the end.

And I would felt oh as respect because I came from like a music background.

When you were in a band, you know, if you open for someone, you watch them, they watch you, you load your gear up and you leave at the end of the night.

I thought in comedy it was the same way.

But what I realized was what was happening was watching all those comics, I realized why other comics don't watch comics.

Not out of disrespect, but you, you a, you get in your, you're getting in your mindset of how you're going to deliver your material.

And for me, if you watch too many other people, you may start taking certain characteristics of their delivery or their, their perspective and you might unknowingly go on stage and kind of take on one of their characteristics.

And that was a suit, that was a fear of mine because I was like, oh, wow, if I sit there and watch 10 people before I go on, I'm gonna get lost in their material.

Some of it's really good, some of it's really bad.

But I don't want that to happen when I hit the stage.

So now I understand why you go to a comedy club and there's comics in the back of the room or comics all over the club, not watching the comics.

And that was a real.

For me, like I said, coming from music and, and coming from a community of, you know, not that comics don't support each other, but they're more in their head.

And I, I was coming from a community of like, hey, we're all here together.

We're all, you know.

And that took me about like five years to understand.

It's not people being rude to one another.

It's just I got to be in my moment and I got to be in my headspace to get up on stage to do what I do.

And that's why, like, you know, how many times have you met a comic that you love and off a stage, they're so different than they are on stage, because when they hit the stage, that's them on stage, and when they're off stage, they're a totally different person.

Yeah, I almost do the opposite where I, I do watch the show.

A lot of comics will hang out before the show, and I found when I do that, I almost get it all out before I get on stage.

So I'm being silly with other comics and now I'm not silly on stage.

So there's like a balance.

Well, like, for me, that part, the riffing, the riffing backstage, I love.

Like if we're all backstage and we're in a room and we're all joking around and telling jokes and, oh, dude.

And you know, we're just telling, you know, we're just riffing with one another, not running bits.

I don't like, I don't like when you're hanging out with comics and you go, are you running a bit on me right now?

You know, I once, I once was.

I once was with this comic that I love, Dom, a legendary guy, legend.

And when I.

My first gig, My first gig.

So I, I started in Hollywood, right?

And my first gig.

So I, I went up to the Comedy Store and I started later.

I was 40 when I started.

How long you been doing it?

I've been doing it.

I. I always get.

I think it's either my 15th or 16th year.

I think I'm 16 years.

But before that I did a one man show.

And I did that one man show for, like, did that one man show for five years.

Oh.

And then the, the one man show morphed into wanting to do standup.

And so it's like, you know, and I've just always been on stage.

Yeah.

I mean, you were the lead singer.

I was a singer in a band at 10 years old.

I was a magician.

That was like the first.

I'm not making it.

Like, that was like, that's my, that's my.

That was my first time on stage.

I was, I was 10 years old.

I was really into magic.

My dad and I would, we.

I saw the movie Houdini, this old Tony Curtis movie from back in the day, and I was just like, oh, my God.

Like, like, to me, like, magicians were like, the first rock stars, you know, for me, because, like, their posters are so metal looking.

Like, if you look at old Houdini posters and magicians from that era, they're all that.

Like, there's all these, like, devil and like.

Like they're in.

You know, like, they're underwater or they're like, you know, in chains.

I mean, it's so.

It's so, like, early, like, Metallica, you know, metal.

Like, it's just very metal.

Which, you know, I didn't know it obviously, at the time, but kid, I was drawn to magic.

And, like, how would these comics do this?

You know?

You know, there was this one comic, though, Doug Henning, who.

Who totally, like, wasn't any of that.

He was like, more like rainbows and like.

Like flowers and stuff.

Total hippie dude.

I loved him.

My dad took me to see him.

That was my first time ever going to a big, big event.

And we went to Tahoe in California or outside of California, and my dad took me to that.

And that was my first time going backstage.

That was my first time meeting someone that was on stage.

And, you know, magic was everything to me.

So at 10, I was really into magic.

But that.

That kind of was my step into, like, getting on stage.

And then at a certain point, I was just like, I gotta put away the scarves, because I wanted to meet girls.

There was right around seventh grade, I realized, you know what?

Chicks aren't into this.

You met a girl with a scarf, you're like, let me show you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You disappear.

Yeah, it's very.

It was very theatrical all the time.

So around seventh grade, I was like, you know what?

I'm out.

And I.

You know, the thing.

The thing for me, though, was like, getting into music and, you know, like, you just said, like, coming from that background of punk rock, I think one of the things that drew me into standup again, because when I got into standup at 40, you know, people, it was funny.

A lot of the.

I felt like some of my peers in music were kind of bummed at me a little bit.

Like, why.

Why aren't you gonna pick up an acoustic guitar?

Like we have, you know, and not.

Not bummed at me, but just.

You know what?

I should take that back.

They were.

I think they were just maybe worried for me.

That's.

That's what I'd say.

Because.

Midlife crisis.

Yeah.

Or just.

Or just, like, when you tell someone you're gonna do stand up, it's just.

It's.

It's because what you're saying is, I think I'm so funny that I should, you know, be on stage with a microphone, and I'm hilarious, and.

And, you know, you could be funny off a stage and.

But I think some of my friends, especially in bands, because I'd been in music my whole life, you know, I. I was in my first band at 17.

You know, I'd been on tour from the time I was 17, you know, all the way.

I've always been on tour.

Yeah.

And.

And I.

And I think you.

You play music with people.

So when I told people I was going to do stand up, a lot of people were supportive because they were like, oh, my God, you're way funnier than you are a singer.

And I was like, really?

Wow.

Okay.

I didn't.

Didn't think of that.

But.

But.

But the gu.

Loved.

You know, I could see the look on their face when I would tell them, I want to do comedy.

They were.

They were a little like.

They were.

You could see the sense of, like, is everything okay?

Are you going through something?

I was like, no, I really want to do stand up, and they're okay, you know, And I just knew that, like, I was a singer.

Like, you know, I couldn't pick up the acoustic guitar and.

And make that my.

Make that my passion, where a lot of my friends, you know, went on to do that, and they're really good at it.

And I was like, you know what?

I'm not gonna be able to do that.

I got to figure out a different way to get on stage.

And that was.

That's why I chose the path of stand up.

And I remember when I started back to the store, I'd go up to the store, and I just, you know, Comedy Store in Hollywood.

And I remember it was kind of hanging out, and I was friends with Pauly Shore, him.

And I.

Or I was in a movie that he was.

That.

I was Biodome, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So.

So I was in Biodome.

And I know a lot of you guys are recognizing me from that, so we were in Biodomo, and it was cool because Paulie always had a really.

When I.

When I met him in Hollywood, he was.

He's always been so cool to me, like, to this day.

That's great.

He's just always been a solid.

You know, we're not tight.

Like, we roll together, but, you know, we'll text each other here and there.

I ran into him when I was in Maui once, and I remember I was in Maui, and it was like, he was there and, and I was with, you know, I was with my girlfriend at the time.

And she's.

She's like, hey.

You know, she kind of put me on the spot.

Like, hey, Paulie Shore's here.

You know him, right?

And I'm like, yeah.

And she's like, well, he's sitting right behind you.

And I'm like.

And it was that moment like, like, how's he gonna.

You know, we're in public and I turn around, he's like, joseph, he's like, super, get over here, buddy.

You know.

But he was the one that got me into the store to do it, to do us, to do a show.

And I was doing my one man show.

And he was, he was like, hey, man, I heard you do a one man show about music.

It has music cues, it has all that.

He goes, my mom built the main room.

She was still alive at that time.

Mitzi was still alive.

He goes, you should really do your show here.

And he sussed, you know, he reached out to me because I was doing the one man show all over Hollywood.

I hadn't done it there.

So I went up to the Comedy Store, I did the show there and it went great.

And then I was like, hey, I want to come up and do what about, like, if, you know, come here and do spots.

And I remember I went up there to do some spots and to try to get in the mix up there.

And I started meeting different comics.

One of the first guys I met was Sandy Danto.

He like literally walked me around the club, introduced me to everyone.

I met Brody Stevens that same night.

Brody was really.

He was.

He went out of his way to be cool to me.

He could tell I was totally out of my element and just was like, hey, Joseph.

And I had.

I used to do this joke about PMA positive mental attitude.

And at the time, you know, that.

That was his whole vibe.

Like, gotta be positive.

So he really.

Him and I bonded kind of over that and.

But I knew at the time, the store just like, I just didn't feel like a connection there in the sense that I just.

The time you have to put in.

And a comic named Eric Griffin.

Yeah.

Who's.

Who I was really good friends with and actually like gave me feature spots when I first started.

He.

He said to me one night, he's like, you know what, man?

This just ain't your place.

You know, you're not gonna.

Not ain't your place.

Like, people don't like you, but just Joe, you know, you're.

You're older, you got a wife, you got kids, they're young.

You're.

What are you gonna do?

Hang out here every night for your five minutes at 1:00am and he's like, I just don't.

You know, I don't think, you know, you're really.

You don't have the time, nor should you put it in here, because it might not be the place for you.

And that's when I went down the street to the.

To the Laugh Factory, and Jamie Masada was the.

Was the first guy to be like, all right.

You know, I actually kind of got in there in a weird way because I was doing radio at the same time, and he was like, buddy, we are going to be doing a.

We are doing I love Jamie impression.

Do people do that?

How was that one?

No, that was great.

Yeah, Buddy, he used to always touch my face.

I remember I was at a Christmas party once and he just came over to me.

He goes, buddy, slap.

I'm like, dude, and he's slapping me, telling you, why do you have a beard?

You must shave that beard.

It's terrible.

It.

Shave it.

And your clothing is terrible.

Why do you.

Wearing that just wanders away.

And okay, I remember one time I went on stage and I got up, he's all, buddy, your energy, I love it.

Hosting, you're.

Oh, my God, your material.

Terrible, terrible material.

And I was like, he goes, you need to write with people.

You.

There's no way.

You just need to write with people, you know?

But he was always.

As I kept going, he always would.

He put me up as hosting.

And I didn't know at the time that people looked down at hosting.

Oh, they're great reps. No, but I didn't.

Yeah, I didn't know.

That's what I thought.

I was like, I want to host.

And everyone's like, And I remember the comics in la, no names mentioned.

They're like, I don't host, man.

What, dude?

What's going.

I wouldn't host.

There's no way.

I don't host.

And I remember.

I remember, like, well, I'll do it.

You know, I was like, I get to be on stage five times in one night.

And I knew not to, like, be the guy that's a punisher, like, just doing material in between.

But I also knew if I had a germ of an idea, which any comic watching right now, man, hosting is the best, because you can take out a germ of an idea that you wrote and you don't really know the premise of the joke.

And where it's going, but you go up on stage and you.

You throw.

You know, in between bringing up a comic and, you know, kind of resetting the room, you throw that idea out.

If it gets a laugh, you can go right back to your notebook and be like, whoa, okay, this is.

This is a premise I really believe can work.

And I did that for two years at the Laugh Factory, easily.

That's great.

Yeah.

And I got really lucky, too, because.

Because Jamie.

Jamie would have me host.

And then ultimately, I ended up doing a show once a month there.

There was a booker there that teamed up with the radio station I was on at the time.

I was on this station called 98.

7 in LA.

And they were like.

I had this punk rock show called Complete Control, and they.

The people from the Laugh Factory called the radio station.

We want to do a show.

And do you have any DJs there that are comics?

And the woman that ran the station, she did a solid.

She's like, yeah, we have this guy named Joe Sibling.

So that was how I got into the Laugh Factory.

Oh, wow.

So then, like, I was hosting my own show, and at the time, the Laugh Factory was just put, you know, I. I mean, that's how I met Bill Burr.

That's how I met Eric Griffin.

That's how I met Dane Cook.

That's how I met Chris d'.

Leah.

That's how I met.

I mean, everyone that.

Dave Chappelle, everyone.

I mean, everyone was coming through that show, and I was the host.

Michael Richards, you know, that was.

He had already.

He had already done.

It already happened.

He'd already done his set.

He was still.

He was still.

I don't know if you were there for that.

No, I wasn't there for that.

Yeah.

I've obviously watched it.

Yeah.

And I love Dave Chappelle's bit about it.

So good.

Yeah.

At the Laugh Factory.

At the Laugh Factory.

He has that green shirt on.

It's legendary.

So good.

Yeah, it was being in that moment and getting to watch all those comics go up on stage.

I used to just sit in this one booth where, you know, the comics would be getting ready to go on stage.

And you kind of sat in this separate booth at the, you know, one end of the club.

And it was.

It was nights that I sat there and just saw so many comics just go up on stage.

And I really felt like I was going to, like, college because I sat there with a notepad and I would write down every time I saw it.

Like, I remember I was going through My old notepad.

And I found this, this comment I wrote about Bobby Lee.

Like I knew who Bobby Lee was.

I'd never seen him do stand up.

And that was like a game changing moment for me, the first time I saw Bobby Lee, because I'd never seen anyone that physical.

And it felt just.

He was it up as he was going along and he was just so in the moment and, and the abandonment that he had and, and I was, I just, I wrote down in my journal, like everything that I saw him doing that night and, and that I loved and that was.

Those were the nights there that, that were so game changing for me.

Because it's one thing to watch a video, but it's another thing to actually see the art being made right there in front of you.

And, and when you're so in, when you're early in the game like that as a comic, because, you know, at that point I was so new to the game.

I.

But I was so full of, like I was a sponge.

I just wanted to watch everyone.

And I knew from being in bands and from playing music that you need to surround yourself.

Like if you surround yourself with great artists, then you're going to learn, you know, you're going to learn how to be great or at least, you know, visualize yourself going in that direction.

So getting.

I mean, when Dave Chappelle.

I remember, I remember I'd be there and Dave would come in and there'd be nights where he.

It was right when he came back and he'd come in and he'd come up and you know, he'd be like, hey, man, you know how many more comics you have on the show?

And I'd be like, you know, we got like three more.

And he'd be like, okay, can you bring me up at the end?

I'd be like, okay.

And he's like.

And don't make a big deal about it.

I like, I like the way you bring me.

Because I would never, you know, I would never like go nuts, right?

But I'd always be like, everyone turn their phones off.

If any cameras are up, you're out of here.

But right now, this is why you come to Laugh Factory.

Dave Chappelle.

People go nuts.

And watching him.

I remember one night I was at a table and it was like, it was like Matt Branger myself, Dane Cook was there.

And I know, like, as people are watching this, like the haters on Dane, but I have a Great Dane Cook story.

But like, Dane was always cool to me, always has been.

So I Don't know.

Oh, dude, I.

He has always been nothing but cool.

Like, cool to the point of like, just.

I don't know, just cool.

Just like.

Like, I don't know what it is, but he just always.

But there was one time where he said something super funny.

I'll get to that in a second.

But this one night, we're all sitting at the.

No, we're all sitting at this.

So Dave goes up on stage, and he had been coming in and been doing like.

He'd been coming in and doing, say, like maybe 45 minutes.

And he'd always wait to the end of the night.

He never bumped anyone.

Which, once again, you see how the greats work.

He doesn't.

He could have gone up when the place was packed.

He's like, no, it's cool.

So he goes up there and I remember he has a drink in one hand and, dude, this is California.

He's smoking cigarettes on stage.

I was like, that is punk rock.

Like, just smoking, drinking.

I'm like, damn.

And this particular night, he went up there and he got on stage probably close to 11, and he didn't get off stage till about 2am and I'll never forget, it was, like I said, Matt Brauner, myself, Dane Cook, another comic.

I can't remember who the other guy was.

And we all sat there and it was.

It was surreal for me because I love Matt Brauner.

And I'm looking at Dane and I'm looking at.

And I'm just like, wow.

And every.

Every comic was just watching him.

And we watched him for, you know.

You know, 12, you know, almost three hours.

And he.

He was.

That night, he was doing material that he used in that.

That first special that he came back with, and he was doing that joke about buying.

Buying ammo for a gun and how the guy's like, what are you hunting for?

And he's like, you know, I'm hunting for, like, are you hunting for pheasant?

And he shows the little box like, no, are you hunting for this, you know, deer?

He goes, no.

He goes, I'm hunting for, like, white men in, you know, orange vests.

He's like, do you have any ammo?

And it was like that night when he did it, it just crushed.

And it was so amazing to see that on the special later on.

But on that night, he.

What I loved, he.

He took so much time, and he just.

He sat in the silence and people started to.

And leave, not because they weren't into him, but they had to go to work.

And then when they'd get up, he would go, where are you from?

And, you know, okay, will you get home safely?

And, like, he was so in this.

It was very loose.

And it was strange because, you know, the other times I saw him, he'd go up and he would just murder for 40 minutes.

Murder.

You know, like, murder, murder, murder.

And this time he wasn't.

It was like.

It was almost like, you know, 100 people were having dinner with him or something.

Yeah.

And he said something, I remember at the end of the night, you know, he gets up and he starts putting his stuff away, and he goes, you know, you all thought tonight was going to be a fine china night, didn't you?

He goes, it was more of a paper plate night.

And I was like, God.

And then he said, if anyone comes out to see me, say that.

When you go up to get your tickets, like, I'm.

It's.

I'm here for, like, the paper plate night, and you'll get in for free.

Because he.

You know, I was kind of saying to everyone, like, you know what?

Thanks for letting me work out with you guys.

Yeah.

So that night, I go home and I'm just like, did I really watch Dave Chappelle just work and talk and just.

It was almost like it was the beginning of kind of what he does now in his specials where it doesn't have to be funny the whole time.

So I was like, what a great moment.

About two weeks later, he comes back or the next time I do my show, and he goes up, total different vibe goes up and just took all the material that he had done a month earlier and just.

It was tight now, and he just destroyed.

Just.

Just, you know, And I was like, whoa, what a different.

And it was a shorter set.

You know, he just, boom, got up, did his thing, bailed, did it at the end of the night.

But it was so much like, that's.

Those are the moments that I'll never forget.

And those were.

That was really what kind of the Laugh Factory gave me those opportunities.

And a lot of people bag on, you know, the Laugh Factory and, you know, whatever.

But I.

For me, you know, Jamie Masada, he was there, you know, when Mitzi and Bud and all those people came.

And he's still there.

Yep.

And he could.

You can still find him at the front door.

Hey, buddy.

You know, like, you know, he called me recently because it's funny, he calls me all the time.

Once in a while, he's like, I have a club in San Diego.

You know, everyone tells me, you Live there now.

You know, why don't you run it?

And I'm like, I don't know what.

I go, dude, I go, jamie, because by the time you say, I want you to run the club, you'll already be over with me and not into it anymore.

By the.

You know, by next week, you know, he's.

Oh, no, it's not the case, you know, but I still have a Christmas gift he gave me.

He used to always.

He always would say, ladies and gentlemen, that's like his way.

Ladies and gentlemen, Joseph.

He gave me this picture of a clown.

He's into clowns.

And dude, I immediately got it.

It was so scary.

I just wrapped it back up, put it so far in my garage, like, I don't even know where.

It's so scary looking.

It's like a picture of a clown.

It's all.

It's all, ladies and gentlemen, Jose.

I'm like, dude, like, love you, but this is scary.

This is weird.

This is weird.

It's.

It's not even a nice clown.

It's all.

It's.

So what's the Gacy guy from Chicago?

Oh, like William H. Casey, dude.

It's like, yeah, is this left over from his collection?

Like, hey, buddy, you know, he come in to do a set, he gives me, you know, I was like, dude, I do not want anything to do with this.

But yeah, Jamie, he gave me my.

He gave me my first real, you know, opportunity.

And then that led to the improv.

Because the improv down on Melrose, they were more like.

They were like, you know, it was a new crew down there.

Rita was still there.

She still is there.

There was a woman, Paige, booking or like, there was just different people, but this woman named Emily, who's actually the Comedy Store booker now, that was her first.

That was the first person that like, booked me a.

A regular spot.

Emily, who books the store now, she gave me my first spot.

She came sawing me do my one man show.

She was like a old or, you know, she was younger.

She's younger than me, but she was like a little punker.

She's like, I love Big D in the kids table.

I love side one.

I came and saw your one man show.

Would you ever want to do it at the improv?

And I was like, okay.

And then she was the first one to say, hey, you know, what about coming back?

And.

And it was the joke we were talking about, you should come back on a, you know, on a Thursday and do seven minutes.

And I was like, seven minutes.

Like, I Can't even get the mic out of the thing in seven minutes.

You know, like when someone says seven minutes, you're like, what?

Yeah, you know?

And I remember the first time I ever went up there.

I went up after one of the Wayans brothers and he just destroyed.

And they're like, ladies and gentlemen, Joseph.

And I was just like, oh, my God.

And I remember all I wanted to do is just go up there and not suck.

That it would stand out so much to ruin the vibe of the show.

And I remember I got off.

My friend was like, dude, you did great.

I'm like, was it.

Was it funny?

He's like, no, but, you know, you tried, so you survived, dude.

You were trying, you know.

I was like, okay.

He goes, no, no, no one even noticed.

You know, I was like, okay.

And that's when I didn't know when you got the light, that the light is like, you have a minute to wrap it up.

I was so paranoid of running the light that, like, when the light went on, I would just bail.

I wouldn't even say goodnight.

It's better to end early than go late.

No, but, you know, but, but, dude.

No, but I was like, I did it to the point where the club said, dude, relax, when we give you the light.

We asked you to do, you know, eight minutes, we're giving you the light.

It's say, you know, seven, right?

You have a minute to wrap it up.

Okay.

They do the light.

I'd be like, yeah, you know, just.

Thanks.

Just walk out, you know, And I.

Because I was so paranoid of running the light.

I remember I was on a.

And yeah, it was just like, yeah, that was, that was something that was always, always a trip.

But, yeah, so I know I was.

A great place to develop.

I would.

You know what, though?

I'll tell you this right now.

It wasn't a great place to develop.

Oh, no, no.

LA is not the place you want.

To start, but around all of those greats.

And that was the good part.

You know what?

That part was good.

Yeah, but the part that wasn't good.

And people told me this later on and I didn't understand it.

They were like, you don't want to get seen in a city like that too soon.

And that's what happened to me.

Like, people, like, people saw me learning.

So there was already a.

Like, there was already like, yeah, man, you know, you should put Joseph on.

Yeah, I saw him.

And at that time, you know, I'm.

I'm a year in and you don't want to be in a showcase room like that a year in.

Yeah.

And that wasn't.

You know, I didn't care because I was older.

But looking back on it, like, whenever I run into a younger comic, they're like, I'm going to la.

And I'd be like, all right, go to LA with.

With.

Wow, this place is haunted.

That clown just came to life, dude.

That right there was like.

Like, I also feel like Los Angeles was like, quit talking.

Right, right, right, right.

Hey, bro, we've been good to you.

Okay.

Sorry, it was Mitzi, like, move on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, what.

All I'm saying is this, like, I just, like.

What I'm saying is, is that like, if I.

If.

And not that.

Dude, I got amazing opportunities from starting in la.

I mean, all the comics I just talked to you about, I got to see, I got to meet, I got to work with all those comics.

All I'm saying is this.

If I was at a different point in to la, and this is my advice, if you move to a city like Austin, you move to, like, right now, Austin's the place.

I just went to Austin.

It was it.

Dude.

It's like.

It's like the gold rush there.

I mean, it's.

It's crazy.

It's almost too much.

You're like, okay, everyone's here, you know, I don't know.

And it's great.

And there's clubs and it's a great vibe and I love it.

And I love that.

I love that Truck Stop Buc EE's.

So it's like, I'm into it, you know, you can get beef jerky, barbecue, a gun, and tires for your truck.

Like, America, go.

I love it.

But the thing that.

The thing that.

Running a.

Right now.

No, not.

I'm just kidding.

Did I tell you the Dom was the Dom?

I didn't tell you the Dom.

Not yet, no.

So come back around.

Okay.

Sorry.

I've had coffee.

It's all.

This is all.

I've never done drugs ever.

Even in your punk rock days?

Never.

So that's why caffeine affects me, I think, so hard.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I've never did drugs.

I tried smoking weed and I.

And I freaked out.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Well, you're missing out.

The run in the bit.

The run in the bit with Dom.

AA was.

Jamie was like, buddy, you know, you go down to Long beach, you open for Dom Herrera.

I'm like, really?

And he's like, yeah.

And I'm like, oh, my God.

He goes, you have to drive him down there.

You make sure he gets back to the club up here.

You know, he likes to have a couple drinks.

You make sure you drive.

I'm like, awesome.

And Dom, I remember I picked him up and he was just so amazing.

He was so cool to me.

We had this other comic in the car, Bill Dolls, I think.

Oh, Bill.

I just had him on.

Bill Dolls?

Yeah.

Redhead guy.

Yeah, dude, solid.

He.

Dude, talk about a funny guy.

So I got.

I got these two, like, season comic in my little Prius, and they're just busting my balls the whole way down there.

And all Dom wants to do is listen to the Beatles and talk music and.

And just, you know, he was, you know, just so into that, and I just loved it.

He knew that I was into music, you know, and that's the reason why I think I got the gig to drive him around, because he was like, it's a music guy.

So we get all the way down there, and I remember we're.

We're talking and.

And I'm talking to him about something, and he looks at me and he goes.

He goes, or this other comics on the show, and the comics talking to Dom, and we're all sitting at the table, and just out of nowhere, Dom goes, hey, are you running a bid on me?

And I was like, dude, like, I'd never heard anyone say that.

And then on the way home, he goes, I can't stand when you're with people and they're running a bit on you.

Like, why would.

Why was this guy running a bit on me?

And I remember I worked with Dom a few more times, and I'd always try to get comic advice out of him.

Of course.

Yeah.

But he always was like, hey, Joe, you know, hey, I'm gonna have another drink.

You want something, though?

Hey, have a drink.

Okay.

Wait, you're driving.

You can't do.

Okay.

Goes, hey, let's get.

Let's go.

Let's.

Let's drive back to Hollywood.

We can make it for Last call.

And we drive back, he's like, hey, are you hungry?

Let's go to, you know, Green Blatts.

I'm like, okay.

So the next, like, going out with Dom, I wouldn't get home to, like, three in the morning because he would, like, we'd go to lunch, we'd go to.

We'd go to the club.

We watch all the comics.

We'd have a drink, then we'd have a, you know, meal afterwards.

I drop him off.

He was just so solid.

But one night, I. I remember I did a Show.

And I said, dom, you know, I want to.

I want to kind of pick your brain, you know, about.

I always want to ask questions.

And he said to me, he said, yeah, sure.

And I go.

I said, you know, in my set tonight, you know, what did you think?

And he goes, well, you know, I like this bit.

I like that bit.

And I go, yeah, I tried that bit and it just didn't work.

He's like, listen to me.

And I said, hey, I got a question.

How many times do you try a bit before you stop trying it?

And he gets all serious and he goes, once.

Huh?

I go, really?

He goes, yeah.

I go, do you.

Do you mean that?

He goes, yeah, if you throw something out there and it's a full room and it doesn't work, move on, because don't.

And you know the other advice I got from Eric Griffin?

Don't fall in love with your material.

Yeah, he used to always say that to me.

And another thing Eric Griffin said to me once, because he was.

He was super.

I'd kind of grind him.

And, you know, he was like, joe, Joe, it's too much energy.

Eric, I don't know.

I want to ask you a question.

He's like, what?

And he goes.

He goes, you know what your problem is?

He goes, yeah, you're getting laughs out there.

You're doing it.

He goes, your thing is, you don't listen to the audience.

You're not listening to the audience.

And I'm like, what do you mean?

I listen?

He goes, no, you don't.

You don't listen.

And you know how long it took me to figure out what he meant by you're not listening?

Three years.

And what did he mean by that?

He meant that don't run your act.

Like, there's certain comics, you know, we all know Carlin wrote everything down.

You know.

You know, Mulaney, he writes it all down.

You know, it's.

It's just so.

Just every word.

Place like that.

That's amazing, right?

But they're also still in the moment while they're doing the material.

At least, you know, that's the feeling that we all get.

What he was saying was, joe, you're doing a bit, and the bit that you're doing, you haven't even finished delivering, and you're already, I can tell, thinking of the next bit.

You're not listening to the audience.

Let them finish their laugh.

Let them, you know, see what else.

You know, listen to the laugh and, you know, you know how it is.

It's like when you listen to the laugh.

You can.

It also changes the direction of where you might go in your material.

Now, obviously, when you're starting out, you only have so little material.

So it's like a computer.

You only have so much on the hard drive.

As you get deeper into it, you have more material.

You know, I remember.

You know, that's why when you go see a headliner, that's a true headliner, and they do a full weekend, you go to the full weekend, you'll see three to four different shows.

Sure, maybe 40% of it's the same, but 60% of it isn't.

That's a comic that has so much material that they're.

They're reaching to and going to.

Whereas when you're starting out, you don't have that.

So when I.

When Eric Griffin said to me, you're not listening, he wasn't saying, you know, you're not listening.

You know, like.

Like I was being a dick.

He was just saying, you're.

You're not listening to the response you're getting.

You're not seeing the opportunities that the audience is giving you.

You know, And I was like, it just took a long time for me to realize that all.

All of us, it takes years to have the confidence and the material to actually realize it's not a monologue, it's a dialogue.

And you say something, their laugh is the response.

And there's like an ebb and flow to it.

It just takes the flow.

It's the flow.

It's like, you know, it's all about being in that flow.

You know, one time, you know Rita from the Improv, who's booked everyone and been there for years in Hollywood, I was.

I. I got done with a show once, and I was like, I felt so good.

And at the end of the night, she said, yeah, you know, Joe, Yeah, it was good tonight.

It was good.

She's all, you know what, though?

But I don't know, where's the crazy?

I was like, what?

And she's like, just, I don't know, like, where.

Where's that?

You know where?

And I.

And that took me.

Like, I was like, what do you mean, where's the crazy?

I just.

I just had a great set.

And what she was saying, you know, it took me a year to figure that out.

Like, where's the, like, not scripted bit?

Where's.

Where's you being you?

Like, you're not being you?

And I was like, okay.

That took another year to figure out.

Also.

She said to me once that something that, you know, she said, joey, she was walking through the club, and I remember she just kind of yelled at me, joey, quit.

You know, she said, quit something.

It was like it was in between shows.

She said, hey, Joe, just enjoy the journey.

Can you just do that for me?

Because I was asking, like, how many tickets have we sold?

And she's like, joe, just enjoy the journey.

And I.

At the time, I didn't know what that meant.

And now I'm like, oh.

She's saying, like, joe, all of this is part of becoming the comic that you want to be and the comic that you'll grow into.

But you're not focused on that.

You're focused on all of these distractions.

You know, how many seats are sold, how many people are coming?

You know, what's the ticket price?

Like, quit doing that now.

That probably comes from me just, you know, being in the music business my whole life, and it's just, you know, it's just a habit of mine to know, how many tickets have we sold?

What's the cost of the event?

You know, I could just.

I just.

I just know that stuff because, you know, that's part of the game, too, big time.

But her saying that to me really made me go, you know what?

As a comic, I'm really going to work on not worrying about those distractions and really, for the first time, focus on.

I just want to be.

I want to be the best comic that I can be.

My goal every night is to be the funniest comic on the bill.

That's my goal.

And that might sound arrogant because you're on great bills with people, but I feel that, like, that's.

It's like.

It's like they talk about an aa.

It's like, you know, keeping your side of the street clean.

They talk, you know, and.

And not that I'm in aa, but, you know, it's like, I just have a lot of friends that are.

And I love that terminology.

I love everything about AA except the not drinking part, you know, but.

Because it's like, dude, working the steps.

Oh, my God.

I joined Alan, and I remember I had to work the steps.

And it was.

I was like, But I don't have a problem with alcohol.

Well, you know, Al Anon's for, you know, Al Anon.

Al Anon is you join Al Anon when you have, you know, someone in your life that has a problem or a situation with drugs or alcohol.

Okay.

So, you know, it's like, you know, and it's.

It's great for, like, you know, you may have a mother that you never knew that, oh, wow.

You know, I've grown up with a mother that you know is an alcoholic, and I'm not an alcoholic.

But, like, you go to Al Anon, you're.

You get a chance to be a group of people that are like, hey, man, like, never had a problem with alcohol, but because the person that was in my life did these things happen.

So you can kind of work out solutions and.

And ways to get through that, those relationships.

But that was one of the things that I took away from that to bring into comedy was just like, really trying to be.

Trying to just be as most.

The most authentic version of yourself as you possibly can on stage and in life, which is super hard.

Yeah.

How do you do that?

It takes, dude.

It's so much work.

And you're always.

That's the thing.

I hate when she said, enjoy the Journey.

And.

And this is a bit.

I hate the band Journey.

I don't want to enjoy the Journey.

I hate that, man.

You know, like, it's.

I. I don't want to enjoy the journey.

I want it right now, you know, But I've learned now it doesn't work that way.

You have to just.

For you to create the art that you want, you just have to get real with yourself and you have to.

The funny comes from the honesty.

It's like, you know, everyone's heard the quote from prior.

That's where the honest.

That when you're honest, the funny comes.

And as soon as I think you look at yourself and start writing from the heart and start writing really, what is going on?

That's where the.

That's where we see the magic on stage, because the audience can identify with.

They know the thing.

I mean, how many times we heard the comics go up, they're like, you know, so I was in this threesome.

You're like, dude, you've never been in a threesome.

Stop it.

You've seen my act.

Okay.

Yeah.

Do you know what I'm saying?

I'm clearly the guy that's like, threesome.

Yeah.

But, you know, I'm just using.

You know what I'm saying?

People go on stage and they talk about things that just aren't real.

Exactly.

And you're like, dude, that didn't happen.

Right.

Even though it's getting a laugh, it didn't happen.

So, you know, obviously we stretch the truth.

You know, you can have a premise that you're talking about someone that, hey, maybe it happened to this person.

But, you know, you Turn it into, it happened to your son or it happened to your dad.

And you're like, it's funnier that way.

It doesn't make sense if it, it's, you know.

But I just feel like that journey and all that, that, those things that I've learned, you know, listening to the, you know, Joe, listen to the audience, you know, you don't, you don't listen to the audience or, you know, you know, people saying, hey, enjoy the journey.

You know, being on stage and really dropping into that moment.

Those are the, those are the things that I think are the.

That's like the thing.

Like as much as you can write material and you can do this and you can do that, the material and all that ain't going to work if you're not doing those other things.

Enjoying the journey, trying to find the honesty in your comedy and also just digging deep because a lot of comics I see, you know, sometimes they don't want to write as much.

You should always, you know, you ought to always be writing, you know, because it's easy to get an act, you know, and then you just kind of lean on it.

Oh, for.

Yeah, I mean, that's, that's where I've been lately is like the first.

I spent the first 10 years I self produced a special on my 10 year anniversary and then the pandemic hit and now I'm at this next kind of like evolution of like, okay, well, I have that hour.

Now what now?

What do I talk about now?

Like, and that's hard.

Lean on that.

And that's hard.

Just no works.

That's hard.

Yep.

You know, it's super hard.

Yeah, but it's supposed to be.

Yeah.

Like, comedy is hard.

Yeah.

And it takes time.

It's supposed to.

Yeah.

You know what, man?

I always say that anything that means anything in this world is supposed to be hard.

Yeah, for sure.

And it's a grind.

You know, I was talking to, you know, John who, you know, hooked me up with you to do this.

Yeah.

When you, when you say to a comic, unless you're like, you know, a Bill Burr or, you know, Sebastian, it's like, you don't have to ask those guys what's going on.

Like, if you run into Burr, you're not like, hey, dude, so what's going on?

Everything's awesome.

You know, I'm in a private jet selling out huge.

You don't have to ask him that because you know it.

Right.

Any other comic that is out on the grind, if you say to them, hey, what's going on.

If they're a true comic.

It's the.

We're both doing the same thing.

We're trying to write, we're trying to get on bigger shows, we're trying to get feature spots, we're trying to work out an hour, we're trying to find a place to work that hour out at.

At the same time, we're doing this thing called social media.

We look at that, it either puts us in a good mood or a really shitty mood.

We judge, we say, no way I'm happy for him.

And then deep inside, no, I'm not your jealousy, you know, it's just, it's just, it's all these emotions that go through.

You're trying to find the magic bullet that pushes your stand up out there.

Then you question yourself, then you don't question yourself, and then you write a new bit and then you do the new bit and then you try to get more of guarantee and then you're afraid to ask for more of a guarantee.

And then you feel that you're being lame.

And then you're like, maybe I should do a podcast.

And then if I do the podcast, more people will be my into my following.

And then if I have more followers, then they'll buy more tickets, but then people will think I bought my followers and I got to make sure I didn't buy the followers.

And there's the blue chip and everyone's in.

They thought the blue chip was cool.

Now it's not cool.

And then I got to start a YouTube channel.

Oh, my God, I should do a podcast.

I don't have any of this gear.

Who would I do it with?

That's being a comic.

Yes, yes.

You just summed it all up.

And that's you every day in your car alone.

There's.

I mean, it's like, it's not like.

I swear to God.

I remember when I started, someone said to me, you don't want to be a comic.

And I said, why?

They're all.

It's.

If you're not careful, it can be sad.

And I was like, I'm not a sad dude, but I see a lot of people go down that rabbit hole and you got it.

You can't, man, because it's a solo game and I'm used to being in a band.

I'm used to four of us.

We get done with the show.

Dude, that was awesome.

You're all high fiving each other and if it wasn't awesome, you blame it on the other guy.

Like you get off stage.

Like, dude, I don't know what you were doing during our third song, but, you know, learn how to play this song.

You can blame it on that.

Dude.

That wasn't on me.

Dude, when you get off stage doing stand up, you only have yourself to high five y and you only have yourself to say, you suck.

You're just in the green room eating chicken fingers alone.

Yeah.

For better.

And that's the other thing, though.

I'm not going to be one of those guys that come on here and be like, oh, dude, it's so hard.

It is not.

Dude, I am so stoked I'm here tonight.

It's.

I'm very grateful to be a comedian.

So, so grateful.

So.

And you know, and it's also like, either you're a comic or you're not.

I think Jerry Seinfeld said that.

You'll know.

Yeah, either.

He said, like, I don't care if you're doing.

I don't care if you're doing room 100 people, and I don't care if I'm doing a thousand people.

Either you're a comic or you're not.

Either you're in the game and you're a lifer or you're not.

And I know for me, I'm.

I'm in the game.

This is what I do.

And I.

And I love it and I'm grateful for it and I'm going to keep doing it.

And all.

And all that I want to do, though, is be the, the best version of myself on stage.

I want to write the best material.

I want to be the best comic.

I want to, you know, I, I do want to treat every show that.

It's like the, the last show or it's the last spot.

And some people think that's silly, but I don't care anymore.

I'm like, you know what, dude?

I've gotten this far in my life with that attitude.

I'm gonna keep doing it.

Yeah.

And this comedy grind now is that DIY self.

I love it.

It reminds me of punk rock, dude.

I.

So funny you say that.

That's one of the things that drew me into it was I was like, this is punk rock, everyone.

Dude, you got the Mark Normans that, you know, they put their special out on their own.

Boom.

I love that you got the Matt rifes just like, all right, you know, you know, we all know that story.

You know, he's trying to put one nighters between Milwaukee and Chicago.

He can't even get paid.

And then all of A sudden, you know, onlyfans comes out.

Boom.

Love it.

It's there.

You work hard, you write good material, you're a good person.

That's.

That's all you can do.

And that.

That's.

That's.

And I love it.

And I do feel it's punk rock because there's no rules anymore.

There's no gatekeepers anymore.

Whether it's YouTube, whether it's, you know, your podcast, whether it's moments like this.

Back in the day, we couldn't have a moment like this.

It'd be like, all right, you need to talk to so and so, and let's see if you're on the podcast now.

You know, now today we're doing this, and, you know, hopefully someone listens and goes, all right, I took something from that.

That's.

That's my goal.

Yep.

That's the whole goal of this whole show, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dude, I. I was just gonna say I didn't tell the Dane Cook story.

Oh, yeah.

I was gonna get to it.

Okay, cool.

Yeah, yeah.

So we.

We can get to it.

Because I was just gonna.

Okay, we're.

We're about to.

We're landing the plane.

Land in the plane, bro.

So we can get into Dan.

Hear about Jim some as well, too.

Yeah.

What do you want?

Yeah, but let's do the Dan Cook one.

Let's do.

You're gonna like the Dane Cook story because it's also, like, punk rock, too.

Okay, cool.

Okay.

Yeah.

Alkaline trio.

Yes.

Fan.

Yes.

Matt Skiba.

Well, I was.

I was.

I went through skater phase in middle school.

Okay.

I have the scars to prove that I was a husky kid.

Skateboarding.

Skateboard.

Royal trucks don't want to flex.

Yeah.

Fire Spitfire wheels.

I don't remember the bearings, but I was into skateboarding, and then I just fell way too much.

Okay.

So skateboarding is like.

And the punk rock.

I was all into all that.

Yeah.

So for me, skateboarding grew up in the.

I grew up in the Bay Area, San Jose, and I was in the right place at the right time.

You know, it's just like, I. I grew up with Steve Caballero, you know, for the Bones Brigade.

Him and I still friends to this day.

That's awesome.

Mike McGill.

You know, I was there.

I got to see everyone skate, from Christian Osoy to Billy Ruff to, you know, obviously, Steve Caballero, Tony Hawk, you know, Steve Stedham, Kevin Stop.

Like any legendary Pro in the 80s.

Rob Rostikoff, Jeff Kendall, Corey O'.

Brien.

I mean, I saw Lance Mountain I mean, I saw everyone fun, and.

And I also.

I got to participate, you know, not skating in sessions with them, but, like, being at the park and skating, you know, watching them.

So I was watching them try to just win a trick.

It's like a comedian trying to figure.

Out a joke over and over and over and over.

It's incredible.

So for me, skateboarding has such a special place for me.

And.

And recently, which was a trip, the Bones Brigade all is.

You know, it was basically Stacy Peralta, who founded the Bones Brigade, George Powell from PAL Peralta.

And then you had Steve Caballero, you had Lance Mountain, you had Tony Guerrero.

Tommy Guerrero.

Wait, Tony.

Tony Guerrero.

Tommy Guerrero.

Sorry.

Tony's his brother.

Tommy Guerrero, he had Tony Hawk.

And then you had Rodney Mullen.

Steve Caballero.

And basically, they did an event where people pay a large amount of money to have the Bones Brigade.

All those legendary skaters in a.

In a room where they have, like, a dinner, and then after the dinner, they do a questions and answer, and Stacy Peralta, who founded the team, hosts it, and they asked me to open the show up.

Yeah.

And that was in November.

Mike McGill called me, and he was like, hey, you know, Mike McGill and Steve Caballero would come to see me do stand up, and there'd be times where I'd just be in the.

You know, I'm like, are those two guys really watching me here do standup?

And they would bring their friends and their girlfriends, and it was just.

It was awesome.

But when I got asked to host this event, it was seriously, like, you know, I've had amazing opportunities.

You know, I toured with Jim Brewer and Metallica.

That was a whole amazing tour.

But getting the chance to welcome those guys on stage and do 20 minutes about the Bones Brigade and skateboarding was one of the highest points of my career.

Like, I was in this beautiful hotel, and.

And it was great because I was on stage, and the place was packed with all the people for the event.

And now, for everyone listening, if you're not a fan of skateboarding right now, you're probably.

It's like.

It's like when Rogan talks about ufc.

If you're not into that, you're like, okay, fast forward.

But my Polar Plunge.

Yeah, yeah, my.

Yeah, dude.

Ice Plunge, which I recently did.

Have you done Ice Plunge?

I have before.

Yeah.

Not lately.

I recently started doing that.

It's pretty rad.

You get high from it?

Oh, absolutely.

You're buzzing after.

Absolutely.

So then when I did this, it was pretty amazing.

I was doing my.

Doing my set.

And the Bones Brigade were supposed to be in another room.

And then I was going to bring them on stage, but they started hearing me through the wall and then they all were at the end of the room watching me.

So there was this moment, if you would have told me 12 year old, you know, Joe Sebiondo at Winchester Skateboard park would be entertaining and talking about the Bones Brigade with all of them there watching me, it was like, it was seriously a highlight.

I'll never forget, like that.

The.

The visual of them watching me and laughing, seeing Tony Hawk laugh.

Laugh, like making Tony Hawk laugh.

There's a photo on my Instagram, if you go to it, there's a picture of all of them and I'm like holding the board and it was a highlight.

Lance Mountain, all those guys.

That's awesome.

And then, you know, and I did a bit on each guy and.

And it was just so amazing, you know, skateboarding everything to me.

So, okay, the Dane Cook story.

Yes.

Alkaline Trail.

So that's how I was like, how.

Did we get off on that?

But it was Alkaline.

Okay, so check it out.

And then.

So there was a moment in time.

Matt Skiba, great friend, super solid dude, and just, you know, always been super, super great.

Alkaline Trio.

I used to do this rock to roll benefit where we raised money for wheelchairs.

Alkaline Trio Trio played it, donated all the money.

Solid band, solid guys.

At this point, I think they're on hiatus, they're not doing something.

And Matt Skiba is in la and he's just.

He's just hanging out, you know, and he finds out I'm doing standup comedy and he's like, I'm gonna come to your show.

So he comes a couple times and.

And at one point, I was doing a show where I incorporated magic and then like music and then comedy.

And it was called the Bare Bones show and it was at the Laugh Factory.

And I'm doing the show.

And that was when, you know, comics at the Laugh Factory were doing my show, Bare Bones.

So, like, we'd have music and then we'd have a magician and then we'd have all these amazing comics.

So this one particular night, Matt's gonna play music acoustic, you know, Matt Skiba from Alkaline Trio.

Place is packed.

And he shows up.

And when he shows up, I can tell he's had a couple cocktails.

And I'm like, oh, that's fine.

He'll be fine.

And then as the night progresses, you Know, the first act goes up, second act goes up.

Now all of a sudden, Matt Skiba has to go up.

Now Matt at this point is backstage and he's hanging out with.

Hanging out with all of the comics that are there.

Finesse Mitchell was on the show that night.

Dane Cook was on the show with it.

Dom Aero was on the show.

I think Peter Pete, or sorry, Tosh was there.

Daniel Tosh.

Yeah.

Like, everyone's there because it was the show to go to.

Everyone's there.

We're all backstage.

Matt Skiba's hanging out with everyone, and he's shooting the.

With Dane and he's talking to Dane and they're having great conversations and they're all in the upstairs and Finesse.

Everyone's just talking to my buddy that plays guitar.

And, you know, Matt Skiba is a pretty big dude.

He's tall, and Dane's a pretty big dude.

So, like, if I'm standing there, I'm the shortest, right?

That's a key moment to the whole thing.

Thing.

So Matt Skiba goes up on stage and he's playing.

And no dismat, because we've talk.

We joke about it now.

He was annihilated, dude.

And he's.

He's.

He's just like, not playing the songs.

It's not connecting.

And then he decides, I'm going to be a comedian.

Oh.

And you know how that is.

Yeah.

You know, civilian going in the comedy world.

And I'm kind of like, all right, where's this going to go?

And then all of a sudden, while he's on stage, he starts just busting out these.

These jokes that are so not jokes.

And then starts morphing it into.

I was hanging out with Dane Cook, and, you know, my.

My roommate used to listen to you, and then he killed himself or something like that.

And the room just goes dark.

And I'm like sitting there.

And at that moment, I'll never forget Finesse Mitch goes, you better get your boy off stage.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I'm like.

And all it's going through my head is I'm like, I just.

Just started stand up and it's going to be over this quick.

Like, I. I realized I'm all.

Jamie's like, buddy, what is going on?

Your friend?

Get him out.

So then it was a joke, dude.

Like, I had to, like.

I had to, like, go on the side of the stage, which was awkward while he's trying to play songs and.

And I had to go up.

And as he's just digging a hole deeper and deeper and deeper.

I just go up, and I put my hand on the neck of his guitar, and I go, ladies and gentlemen, Matt Skiba.

And Matt looks at me like, what?

I. I thought I was crushing, you know, And I'm like, okay.

So then I get Matt, and we go backstage, and every comic is like, what the hell are you doing, dude?

You're bagging on the club.

You're bagging on us, and.

And everyone.

And I'll never forget, by the time I got backstage, Dane and Matt were just, you know, talking to each other, and.

And they were just.

They were just like.

They weren't, like, gonna fight or anything, but, like, I thought in my head, I'm like.

Like, oh, my God.

Like, what am I gonna do?

Like, Matt's my bro.

Like, I can't, you know, I can't let this end bad.

And.

And he's.

He's being surrounded by all these guys, and they're just going, dude.

And Matt's going, I thought it was cool.

Like, I thought that's what you do.

And, you know, and I'm trying to convince Matt.

I'm like, dude, it's the equivalent of, like, going to CBGB's and saying, the Ramones suck and this place sucks.

Like, you just can't.

It's like going into a church and just, you know, doing something gnarly, you know, like, you just.

And he's like.

I thought he's sitting there like that.

And then this is Dane.

It's like a circle of us, you know, it's Dom Herrera, it's Tosh.

It's, you know, finesse Mitchell.

And then me and then, you know.

Yeah.

And Dane Cook goes, dude, look around the room right now.

Look around your room.

You're surrounded.

Comedian.

He points at Dom.

Comedian points at Tosh.

Comedian.

Push it.

Finessel points at me, and I'm like, oh, he's gonna call me a comedian?

He goes, well, you know what I'm talking about.

And I'm like, dude, I.

Like, I was so close.

Yeah.

He doesn't call me a comic, you know, kind of like, yeah, you're one of those.

Like, yeah.

And I'm like, I was so bummed.

Oh, I was so bummed.

And then I remember, you know, Matt apologized, and Dane was like, it's cool.

All right.

You know, just, next time, don't do that.

You know?

But it was one of those moments where I was like, oh, I was so close.

And he.

He was sure to almost be like, go all, dude.

He went around the room.

He Looked at each guy.

There was five of us, and I was right.

There he goes.

Look around the room right now.

Look at who is here.

You got Dom, a rare.

He's a legendary comedian.

You got a comedian.

You got a comedian.

You got a comedian.

You got.

Okay.

You know what I'm saying?

He, like, looked right at me like, I'm not gonna give it to you, bro.

Oh, dang.

Like, that's.

That's the great thing about comics.

Even in the heat of the moment, he won't give it to you.

Yeah, of course.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember.

I. I seriously thought that it was over.

But you know what?

I realized that night, too?

It was such a huge learning curve, because in the world of music, something like that goes down on stage, it is over.

The venue doesn't want you there anymore.

The.

The clubs bombed.

The promoters bombed.

Like, dude, that was totally unprofessional what happened on stage.

And that was the first night that I realized in comedy, when stuff like that happens, it's just.

That's magical.

The audience, it gives them to be like, dude, you got to stop them playing guitar.

So and so got mad at him.

He didn't know what to do.

It was so awesome.

And the club loves it, too.

Like, no one's like.

Like, I remember the next day, Jamie, I was like, oh, God, I'm gonna call from, you know, the club.

And no one even called me.

I just came back a month later, and it was like, it never even happened.

Buddy, you bring in your body.

Buddy, you bring it.

Don't bring.

You know, I think he did say no more guitar.

I was like, all right.

He's like, no more.

No more scabba with the.

I'm a skiba.

No more scabba.

Just.

No more.

No more sca.

Like Scott.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you for sharing that.

Yeah.

I don't know.

That's.

I don't know.

I've never told that story.

Yeah.

My one interaction with Dane, I did a video essay about him because I wanted to tell his story because he does get a lot of negativity online, and I was like, I want people to understand where he came from and, like, how he got to where he is.

So I made this.

I made this video essay, and I was super psyched, and I sent it to him first, and he just saw the thumbnail, and he.

He was like, call me.

And he.

And the thumbnail was kind of clickbaity in hindsight, and I changed it, and it's all.

We're all good now.

But Like.

Like, he gave me his number, and we Talked for, like, 30.

Like, oh, that's.

This is randomly at, like, 10:30 at night.

It's totally him.

We talked for, like, 30 minutes, and he's like, you.

You're.

You're like.

He's like, I know you're trying to help.

He's like, this thumbnail's not helping it.

It's negative like everything else, which is the opposite of what you're trying to do.

And he's like, you could do something very special like Johnny Carson would do in showcasing comedians.

He's like, you can do that with this.

And he, like.

He wasn't mean.

He was, like, very encouraging of, like, you, like, you can make this better type deal.

Yeah.

And that always stuck with me.

He took.

Took time, like, on a weekday at 10:30 to be like, I don't know this guy, but I want to help him.

And I was like, yeah.

Whoa.

Well, you know, comics, I think comics, you know, for the most part, you know, the.

The.

The people, they want to help each other.

Yeah.

It's just the people that actually take the time to throw the number out there and pick it up and do the call.

Yeah.

This is how we started this whole thing of, like, comics helping comics.

Yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't be here.

I wouldn't be on tour doing this if it wasn't for Jim Brewer.

I mean, he gave me a shot, got opening up for him, and it was such a random opportunity, and it just turned into, hey, man, you can come on the road with me.

Did he see you at a show?

No, not at all.

I stayed in touch with his publicist.

So this is.

This is what I did was, is that I met his publicist in la.

Randomly ran.

No, no, his.

I was on a. I was a friend of a friend of mine.

Chris Shiflett from the Foo Fighters was interviewing Jim on his podcast, and I had a deal.

They came to.

They came to side one to do it there.

So his publicist came.

I met his publicist, this woman named Amy, super cool.

And I was like, God, I'd love to open for Jim.

And she's like, stay in touch.

I was like, okay.

So I just stayed in touch, and I.

But I.

You know, every month I'd look at Jim's schedule, and I'd be like, hey, I'm gonna be out in Chicago.

And, you know, the 18th of April, like, if Jim doesn't have an opener, which I wasn't gonna be out there, but I would just be like, I'll go right, you know, oh, no, we've got someone.

Okay, just stay in touch.

Stay in touch.

And then it just came to the point where they came through the West Coast.

They didn't have an opener.

I went to the show where I got asked to open.

She's like, hey, can you open San Diego?

I said, sure.

At the point.

At that point, my dad was living in San Diego, and I brought my dad.

I told my dad, stay in my dressing room.

I gotta go to the front, you know, box office.

I came back, he's eating a sandwich and drinking coffee with Jim, spitting food on Jim.

Like, Jim's just getting salami.

He just looks at me and Jim starts laughing.

He's all, hey, I met your dad.

You must be Joe.

And I'm like, what's up?

He's like, I love your dad.

And then after the show, he was like, hey, man, I'm doing another show in a couple months out here.

Would you like to open?

I said, sure.

And then I remember we went to dinner and he was like, hey, man, I gotta say, like, you know, any dude that would bring his dad to the show was just a thumbs up in my book.

He's all, as long as you don't bomb, you know, if you want to.

If you want to open up, I'll give you the slot.

And I was like, like, all right.

And it was a game changer.

And now you've been on the road with him ever since?

Yeah, I've been on the road with him a lot.

You know, he's given me a lot of opportunities, man.

Just.

It's been amazing.

I mean, I have.

I just have nothing, but, you know, I'm so grateful and so thankful.

He's just been such a solid, solid human being.

Been a great friend to me.

Really great friend.

You know, he, you know, and also just gave me opportunities that a lot of people don't give to other people.

Like, we're talking about, like, when he got asked to go on the tour with Metallica, he said, hey, man, they said I could bring someone else.

Would you want to go?

You know?

And when he got offered the tour, too, I was like, he's like, what do you think, man?

They want me to go out.

They're not going to bring a band.

And in my head, I was like, what a nightmare.

Insane.

Yeah.

I was like, dude, yeah.

You know, he's like, do you think I should do it?

I'm like, yeah, I just wanted to go because I just want to see the show, you know?

Right.

And Then he's like, hey, dude, they said I could bring someone.

Do you want to go?

And I'm like, totally.

You know, I'm like, I'm in.

And we did that.

It was amazing.

We did the.

We were the opening act for six months, 30 shows.

It was a game changer.

Yeah.

It was like, one week on, one week off for six months.

And the crowds were receptive.

At the beginning.

No, the first show.

And right now, anyone that was there will be like, no, dude, at the beginning, we had one show in Madison, Wisconsin, that was.

That was.

That was not what we.

We were still trying to figure out what we were gonna do.

Because the problem was, is that we were so psyched we were going on tour with Metallica.

We never planned anything.

You know, we would just get together, be like, oh, my God, we're drinking beers.

It's like, I can't believe we're going.

I wonder if they'll play this, you know, we were more worried about that, putting together a show.

So we did the Madison, Wisconsin show.

We got through it, you know, by the skin of our teeth.

And then the next show is in Minneapolis.

We had two days.

And I went down to Jim the next morning.

I said, bro, I didn't sleep.

My kids were like, don't go on the Internet.

So gnarly.

And I was like, people were like, just not feeling it.

And.

But Jim was like, dude, you know, who cares?

Like, we'll figure it out.

And I was like, jim, you know, we.

We can't do what we did last night.

He goes, yeah, I know.

Let's.

That's why you're here.

Like, this is your world.

I'm a comedian.

Your world is shows.

Your world is this.

Like, that's why you're here, dude.

Put together.

Let's put together a show.

Like, let's sit down.

And then we just literally put together the show we ended up doing, and we learned, you know, how to start it, where to go with it.

And at that point, too, Jim was, like, at first, not feeling.

Doing stand up.

It was weird.

He was like, not weird, but we just both felt they don't want to see stand up.

They.

They're not coming for that.

And then what ended up happening?

Because the Stern and because of.

Of Rogan and because of all the he'd done.

Everyone knew he was a Metallica fan.

Everyone knew the Slayer bit.

Everyone knew the.

So everyone was getting there early because Lars from Metallica told us straight up.

He's like, you know, just so you guys know, like, you Know, the venue won't even be full.

You know, maybe there'll be 1500 people there.

Maybe, you know, these 20,000 seaters.

That was not the case.

Every single night packed.

We.

I would come out on stage at 7 o' clock and it was full.

It was not a thousand people.

And I remember they were.

And that's when I, you know, when I and Jim figured out, dude, they're here to see you do stand up.

So he.

We went from, like, not doing a stand up section.

Not my stand.

They didn't want to see mine.

But they, they, they were there.

And Jim was doing between, you know, 35 to 45 minutes of stand up because he had all the material.

Dude, were you doing anything?

What I was doing was this.

So I was.

I basically was the mc.

Okay, cool.

I was your host.

Gotcha.

I came out.

What's up, everybody?

Welcome to Atlanta.

Tonight, Metallica's in the house.

All right, cool.

I'm gonna play any music that you guys want to hear.

Anything you want to hear.

Text to this number, tell me what you want to hear.

You want to hear priests?

You want to hear Pantera?

Anything you want to hear, I'm your guy.

You want to hear some exodus, Boom, I'm your guy.

We got Jim Brewer in the house.

All right, cool, man.

We got a great night for you guys tonight.

Right now.

We're going to kick it off with the only band that can start this night.

Ladies and gentlemen, scream real loud so he can hear you.

Let's scream so loud.

Lemmy can hear you.

Here's Motorhead.

Boom.

I go into Motorhead.

Beautiful.

Because I knew if I played Motorhead, no one could talk.

No one could.

Because, you know, it's Motorhead.

If you're.

You cannot.

I don't care if you're into, you know, Slayer.

I don't care if you're into AC dc.

You're like, okay, Motorhead's the.

So then, boom, I come out with Motorhead and then I just started playing requests.

And then I did that for half hour, got the audience fired up and then brought Jim out.

And that's where he'd do a section of stand up.

And then he would bail.

And then we'd go back to music.

So we go in, we go out, we go in, we go out.

And then we did some stuff backstage with the band.

We did some stuff with the fans.

And then.

And then it just.

It just.

It all.

It all grew and grew to basically this huge karaoke session that we would do at the very end we were like, look, Jim would be like, I just was backstage with the band.

They're warmed up, but you guys got to warm up.

And I'm.

We're.

Joe, Joe, Joe.

Do you got the songs?

Yeah, I got them.

Jim, we're gonna play like five songs.

And if you don't know the words to these songs, you're at the wrong show.

You have to leave immediately.

And then, boom.

You know, and you gotta remember we had all the bells and whistles.

There's huge jumbo screens.

So everyone's seeing Jim, everyone's seeing me.

And then we went into like six songs.

And it would start right out with like, you know, Judas Priest and has a video.

Has like, you know, Rob Halford.

And then had the lyrics to like, you know.

You know, heading out to the High.

You know, Then it go right from that into AC DC with Bon Scott.

And they would go right, you know, so the crowd now is all singing along and they're fired up.

And then it would end with.

It would end with.

What was the last.

I think it was highway to Hell, AC dc.

And then Jim would leave and go, all right, man, I'm gonna leave.

And when I come back, I'll have.

I'll have it.

I'll have Metallica with me.

And then he would split and then we'd play more music and he'd come back.

I could stop the music.

Stop.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready?

Thank you so much for being here tonight.

Ladies and gentlemen, Metallica.

And then he'd bring him out.

So we.

We were like, smart.

Yeah, we.

We were.

You know, it was like we were, you know, we were like, just building it up and building it up, but in a way that it was like we weren't overbearing.

And then I.

You know, we knew to get in and get out because the first night we didn't do that.

We went on stage at 6:30 and got off at 9:30.

You too?

Yeah, just me and Jim.

We hold the record for the longest opening act ever for Metallica.

And it was just two dudes, no instruments, two Apple computers.

Yeah, yeah, we, we up.

It was Bomb city right there.

Not Bomb City.

Not bomb It.

You know what, man?

It depends.

You have Jim on the show.

Be like, ah, dude, Joe's out.

He's.

But he didn't have to be on stage the whole time.

I was.

You had to stand in it.

Oh, no, he had.

Because that night he still had back then.

It was in the round and he.

And he was like, yeah, dude, I Want you to.

He.

We were all like, you'll DJ from being on stage.

So the first night, there was only one night.

I DJed the entire night on stage.

So Jim was coming and going.

I had to stay up there and just absorb people flipping me off for hours.

Children, children flipping me off.

Their parents teaching them how to swear, how to just how to look angry.

Like little kids, kids, women, mothers, like, straight up, you know, just milfs just so bummed at me.

And I.

And then Jim's like, dude, why don't you just act out the song you play made and dance around.

I'm like, dude, I'm not acting out Phantom of the opera.

That's a 12 minute song.

That's your department, bro.

He's like, yeah.

And then, you know, then it was just.

It was just.

It wasn't that we bombed, but it just went on for so long.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So the next night I was like, and I remember that night ago.

I am never DJing on that stage ever again.

I go, I want to be down in the audience.

Put me back by the sound booth.

Put me up on a little riser.

But I cannot be on stage, dude, because, you know, everyone's looking at me.

And they were like, okay, we'll do that.

So that was a game changer.

I was.

There's one picture of me somewhere.

I. I should give it to you guys.

Where I.

Where Jim and I are both on stage and I'm just like, I got the readers on and I'm just lost.

I remember it went so bad that night that I. I remember when Jim finally, when we brought Metallica on stage, grabbed my wallet and my.

I.

Because my wallet was with me on stage.

And I grabbed my wallet and.

And I left all my gear on stage.

I'm like, I'm out of here.

I'm done.

I don't care.

I'm not.

I go, dude, I. I grabbed my stuff.

I was ready to leave.

It was the first night of the tour.

I went backstage and Jim's like laughing.

He's like, oh, dude, we got to work on that.

And I'm like, I'm out of here.

And he starts laughing.

That's the thing.

He every.

Everything him is a joke.

The more pissed I got, the more stressed I got.

He just made him laugh harder.

I'm like, dude, you're not feeling that?

He's like, dude, don't worry about it, man.

We'll figure it out.

And we did.

He.

It's a different animal, though.

I'm not that Guy I, you know.

Yeah.

His show is.

It's almost like he brings almost the energy of a rock show.

Like, totally.

You guys work.

Last time you were here, like, he did like 75 minutes of non stop laughs.

Done.

I'm just watching it, like.

Is that where the bar is?

Yeah.

I haven't seen someone kill that hard for that.

That's him before.

That's him.

Yeah.

You know.

Yeah, it's.

That's why, you know, like I said, that's why you never.

I mean, if there's one last thing, because I know there's, like, a lot of young comics that watch it and, you know, hopefully you guys enjoyed our banter, but I don't know, the thing I've learned, honestly, Joel, is that, like, it never turns out the way that you think it's going to turn out.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

It never, ever.

You.

You.

You work this way, trying to make this happen.

Whether it's in a relationship, whether it's being a dad, whether it's being a mom, whether it's being a friend, whether it's a career.

You go through life and you have all these visions of, this is how it's going to be.

This is how it's going to play out.

This is where I'm going to be when I'm this age.

This is where I'm going to be.

You have to have those visions and those beliefs and try to obtain those things and make them happen.

But what I've realized is you can try and do all those things, it never goes down the way you think it's going to go down.

And generally, if you do have a plan, it goes down a better way.

But if you.

If you don't have a plan, then nothing happens.

But I've just learned, like, you know, when I was in my band, I was convinced I'm going to open for Metallica in my band.

You know, like, I'm.

Yeah, my band.

We're going to open for Metallica.

That's what we're going to be doing.

If you would have told me, then.

No, no, no, no.

You're going to go out and you're going to tour with Metallica.

Oh, yeah, of course I know that.

No, but you don't understand.

You're gonna tour with Metallica as part of the opening act with Jim Brewer.

No.

And you're gonna be DJing.

No.

Oh.

And throw this in.

You're gonna be doing, like, comedy and, like, giveaways and, like, you know, telling stories about.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

What?

I would have never, ever thought of that.

I would be like, no, I'm gonna be in the opening act playing, like, band singing.

No.

So it just goes to prove it never, ever turns out the way that you think it's gonna turn or not.

Yeah.

And just being open to opportunities, you got to be trying to be as authentic as possible through all.

Just like we said, you know, about half an hour ago.

It's just.

Just opening up and being.

Being aware of trying to be, you know, the best version of yourself on stage.

Yep.

You know, I don't know who said it, but it's like some comics will say, like, yeah, man, I kill on stage.

And, you know, I. I kill on stage, but I'm terrible at life.

I forgot which comic said that.

You know, there's a lot like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it's like, you got to work on both, you know, and that's all we're trying to do, you know, you're just trying to.

Trying to.

Trying to do it.

I'm a total work in progress right now.

It's like, you know, and what I realized is that it's just a work.

You're always working on stuff.

See, I thought you worked on stuff, and then it's done, and you don't have to work on it anymore.

It.

And now I'm learning.

I talked to my dad, you know, and he's up there.

You know, I doubt he's gonna watch this, but he's 83.

Sorry, dad.

He hates when I say his age.

Gets so bummed.

You know, there's ageism, and I just don't appreciate that.

But this guy's publishing articles, he's teaching.

He just got married, he tour, he goes out on the road.

He's an animal.

He's 83.

And I'm like, he's such an inspiration.

And he said, joey, I'm telling you right now, the last 30 years of my life are amazing.

You know, and it's because he just still is putting art out there, still writing, still putting it out there.

So, you know.

Well, thank you so much for taking the time, dude.

Thanks for having me, genuinely.

Did we go too long?

No.

Okay.

No, we did.

Yeah, we did.

Great.

Okay.

Yeah, I know we went a little long than I told you, but it's all good.

We had a little momentum there, and I appreciate you going the extra.

Did I touch base on everything?

We nailed it.

Cool.

Yeah, we nailed it.

Hey, and if anyone wants to get a hold of me.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I'll give you my email, Joe Sibcomedy Gmail.

Hit me up.

You know, if you got any questions, follow me on Instagram, it's Joe Sib and Facebook, Joe Sib and Joe Sib.com and come out to a show and it'd be nice.

Yeah.

See what we talked about today live.

Beautiful.

Thanks for having me, man.

Thanks.

I really appreciate it.

That was super fun.

Hot breath.