Hey everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Welcome back. We hope you're reading your Bibles, but I guess if you're listening to this, you probably are. Hopefully. Hopefully, yeah. This is not a substitute for Bible reading. Not, not at all. The Bible's better than we are by a lot. Yes. Yeah. So this is meant to supplement your Bible reading. It's meant to be a help. It's your Bible reading. It's not meant to replace it by any stretch of the imagination. So yeah. Don't don't listen to us at the expense of listening to God. Can you do an audio Bible? Yes. Do you think that is sufficient? I think it's good. I don't know if I would say sufficient for a long time. I, I think having a variety of ways to intake God's word is good. I think. The tactile experience of reading, even having a pencil in your hand or a highlighter or something like that. I think that's good. I can't point to you to chapter and verse that says you have to do it this way. But. I think the audio Bible is helpful. I just think it's hard to really track in detail there. You can't really effectively stop and go back, read. That's exactly what I was gonna say. And pause and meditate over something. You can, but typically most people aren't with the audio Bible. They're listening on a commute or in the shower or something like that. It's fine, but I just make it your only source of intake. Yeah. 'cause sometimes there's. A need to dwell on a particular phrase or a particular word, or to try to understand something in an audio Bible can be really helpful in certain circumstances, but to your point, doesn't allow for you to pause, to go back to do that. So I, I do think the advantage of an audio bible is that sometimes it is helpful to hear a whole chapter or two chapters kind of nonstop, right? But yeah, again, I can't point over verse either, but I would say that reading. Your Bible is a particularly helpful way of doing it and should be common. Right? And sometimes it's helpful to listen to an audio bible because somebody who reads the Bible on the audio Bible is gonna emphasize mm-hmm. Things and you're gonna go, oh, huh, I hadn't thought about that way. And so that's helpful too and can be a good study tool. But again, yeah. Probably not the only source of your Bible reading intake. Pastor Mark, you're in a new house. Talk to us about how that process has gone. Moving is so weird. Moving is a weird thing. It's, I think ultimately it points to our. Baked in desire to have an eternal home that is permanent Yes. And is unchanging. And in this life we get the blessing of a place to live. But as you make that change, that transition, you really feel that I think core desire that God has placed in our hearts for a permanent home and even thinking about Lincoln. Praise. He, yeah, we can talk about kids praying as a separate thing, but he prays that the house doesn't burn down. There you go. And but even that's a fear that I had as a kid that that you know, even as an adult you pay your insurance and you're paying your insurance because Yep. That home is not permanent. Right. And there's a permanent. Recognition, at least in this life of it, of the non permanence. So yeah, anyways, it, the process of actually moving is, was pretty simple. Worked well, clean cut, we got lots of help and we're very thankful for that. That's awesome. But, to make it a matter of philosophy, I have to think about all these other things. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Well, let's get into our Bible reading. We're in Luke 23, John 18 and 19. Today again, like I mentioned at the end of the episode yesterday, we're still dealing with the crucifixion and so Luke is gonna open up and we are gonna have Jesus before Pilate and Pastor Mark, have you ever played the game? Two truths in a lie? I have, yes. I guess I'm more familiar with it. I can't remember the last time I played it. Well, if you never played the game, it's kind of an icebreaker game. Everybody's supposed to come up with two statements of truth about yourself and one lie, and then you stand up and introduce yourself, and you say your two truths and your lie altogether. And then everybody has to pick out. People have to figure out which one's the lie, right. Well, Pilate or the Jews rather, they come before Pilate and they don't play two truths and a lie. They play two lies and a truth because they say right there in verse two, we found this man misleading our nation and forbidding us to give tribute to Caesar and saying that he himself is Christ a king. Okay, so Pastor Mark, which are the two lies and which ones the truth? This is tough. This is tough. No, of course. I'm kidding. It shouldn't be. It should be pretty straightforward. The truth is that he is Christ. He's Christ a king, right? Yes. And even that you know, he's. Public declarations of his identity weren't so much that he stood up in the middle of the temple and said, I'm the Messiah and I'm the king, so everybody come and worship me. But he did make statements, plenty of statements enough throughout his ministry to make those conclusions and draw those conclusions. So, yeah, those are the charges. But what's fascinating is just how many times again Jesus is gonna be referenced as somebody who's. Innocent and that, that jumped out to me in Luke's account specifically. You've got it there in verse four, PIL says that he is innocent and doesn't deserve death. You've got it again in verse 14 and 15. Mm-hmm. That he is innocent. You've got it down in verse 22, that he's innocent. So you have it over and over and over again. You've got it again in verse 41, that he is innocent, innocent again in verse 47. So you just have so many. Attestations again from secular sources, not from the disciples, not from Jesus himself, but even from the secular sources going, he's done nothing deserving his death. And that's exactly right. And that's what had to be true for him to be able to go to the cross for us because Jesus had to be the sinless sacrifice. Pastor Mark, why is it important that we fight for the sinlessness of Jesus when it comes to his death on the cross for us, because he has to atone for our sins. And if he is just like us, if he is a fallen human, then he doesn't have the capacity to represent. Us believers before the father. And to bear that judgment and to bear that wrath other, he's just like us, right? And we are insufficient because of our sin to save ourselves, right? And so we are very much dependent on a savior who is sinless. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because it's like your kids, right? If you've got two kids that come to you. And both of them ha, were playing catch together and they both broke two windows. They both threw the ball through a window, each of them, and you call them in and they did it on purpose. This isn't accidental. They're like, we're gonna have a mean streak. We're just gonna break the windows. And you bring both of them in. You sit them down together and one of them steps forward and is like, you know what? I love my brother so much. You know what I, I know he broke the window, but I want you to punish me. Instead of punishing him, you're gonna look at him and be like, you know, that's super sweet of you and kind. But the problem is you broke a window too. Yes. So I need to punish you and him. So you are, you're guilty for your own sin. You can't take his punishment on you. That's why we have to fight for the sinlessness of Christ. That's why hearing it from Pilate and others is so important. Because if Jesus had his own sin, he could not be qualified to die for ARS sins. And how do we know that he was sinless as well beyond that? Well, that's where Paul goes in one Corinthians 15 when he says, the resurrection of Jesus is God, the father's stamp of approval saying payment made. Yep. Because death couldn't hold him because he himself had no guilt. He himself had no sin. He died for our sin, not his own. So therefore, when he died, death realized it couldn't hold him. And so that's why he's able to be resurrected from the dead. The other reason it's important is because Jesus is God. And if Jesus sins he's not God, then he's not God, or God is somehow capable of sin, which is impossible. Impossible. And would. Destroy everything we believe. Yes, yes. It's so, there's a lot of reasons why it is important that Jesus is sinless. Yeah. Hey on verse 54 of Luke chapter 23, we have a statement that's made here. It says, it was the day of preparation and the Sabbath was beginning. Now, day of preparation, there's. Two potentials here. Just if we're gonna take that phrase in a vacuum, this could be the day of preparation for the Passover feast. This would've been the day when the Passover lambs are sacrificed and when the meal was gonna be prepared before they ate the Passover meal together. That's. One thing that it could mean again in a vacuum, or it could mean that this is the day of preparation for the Sabbath, which was something that took place before the Sabbath where they would prepare the food, they would prepare everything they need to for the next day being the Sabbath, so that they could truly rest on the Sabbath and not do work that they weren't supposed to do. This. Has to be the day of preparation for the Sabbath, not for the Passover. Because remember when Jesus was in the upper room with his disciples, the gospels are clear that it was the Passover meal that he was eating with them. Mm-hmm. And so the day of preparation would've been Wednesday before the Passover, or Thursday rather before the Passover. Took place. They, the sun goes down they have the Passover meal together, the Seder meal together and then you've got things moving forward. Otherwise we're in a situation where we're going, wait a minute, if this is the day of the preparation for the Passover, then the Passover hasn't happened yet. So what, when are we in the passion week? I think this fits the timeline for us still. And even it says right there, the Sabbath was beginning, so it was the day of preparation. The Sabbath was about to happen, about to arrive and that's why that time note is given there in Luke 23. Yeah. And again, notice. How the women are referenced here. We know we talked about it yesterday, but it's the women who had come with him and saw the tomb and how his body was laid. What, I know we talked about it briefly talk a little bit more about why the gospel writers record the women as. As testimony to these events? Yeah. Yeah. Again, in this culture, at this time, women were not by the secular world held in high regard. Their testimony was undermined in court. This is not a commentary from my perspective, so please hear me say that as a caveat. This is just the way things were at this time. So, if somebody were to invent the gospel. Which a lot of people want to say, well, this is just a made up story. This never actually happened. Jesus isn't real. Although those, the people like that are just intellectually dishonest because even the leading critics will say he was a historical person, at least, right? There's enough evidence there. But if the gospel writers which making these things up, they would not have put women as their, some of their leading voices here. And they do that as some of the. Leading characters giving testimony to the things that are happening. And that's significant because that shows us the veracity of this. Because if I wanted to convince somebody that this was true, I wouldn't have it that way. I would've, again, like I said yesterday, have some of the leading men of his followers be the ones that are going, oh yeah, we saw the empty tomb eventually, and it's empty, and we saw the crucifixion and this is the tomb where he was laid and everything else. So. Another reason why we can trust the Bible. Yeah. And we should be glad for these details because to this, one little detail here, I think it does should and does build our confidence in the truth of scripture, but you know, these details are really important and we should pay attention to them. Yeah, yeah. Well, let's flip over to John 18 and 19. In John 18 we get a little bit more of the detail of the arrest of Jesus, and what I love is just that. That Jesus, you, you mentioned, how is this not Jesus being a doormat? I think at John 18 we see Jesus in full control. And he's in full control in a number of ways. Judas knows where Jesus is gonna be. Jesus knew that Judas knew where he was gonna be. Mm-hmm. And yet Jesus goes there when they come out, when the Judas along with the soldiers come, Jesus doesn't. Wait behind all those disciples back in the olive press cave there, which is would where they would've been, said. He goes out to meet them. He puts himself between this band of Marding soldiers led by Judas and his disciples. He protecting them even coming off the high priests of prayer in John 17. He's protecting them even in this moment. And he says, who are you looking for? They say, we want Jesus. He says, I. Am he and it says they, they drew back and fell to the ground there. I love that detail. And they, he, they stand back up and you can kind of see that they're probably disoriented in your mind's eye. And they, he says, who are you looking for? And they say, we're looking for Jesus. He goes, I told you. I'm he. Now let these ones go. And so I just love the flex. Jesus is the one in control. Yeah. He's the call the shot collar right now. It's not Judas and it's not the Jews at this point. Yeah. In verse 11, what does he tell Peter? He says. Shall I not drink the cup that the father has given me? Again, to your point of Jesus being fully in control of this, he knows he's gonna suffer. He knows what's gonna happen, but he is telling Peter, put his sword away because he's in control of this and he's choosing to do these things for our sake, ultimately. Yeah. Yeah. And again, the synoptic writers are all like somebody there in the band of disciples pulled their sword and attacked it, and John's like, Peter did it. Yep. It was Peter. It was Peter. It was Peter. And from here he's taken again, he starts with the Jewish authorities, Anis and Caiaphas. With, I believe it was Anis was the father-in-law of Caiaphas. Yeah. Anis for, he was the father-in-law of Caiaphas. An Anis is the, what is it called when he's the high priest emeritus? So he's still living and he held the office of high Priest but Caiaphas is the current acting high priest. And so that's why they're mentioned together here. And there's probably a nod to the authority of both of them at this time, even though Caiaphas is the actual high priest during this stretch. You've got Peter's denials here and you've got the questioning of Jesus all at the same time. Again, things that we have seen before this, you've got Jesus taken before Pilate. Again, here we've got another reference to time so that they would not be defiled. They stayed in the, outside the court there, verse 28 but that they could eat the Passover. Now again, you might be saying, well, I thought they already ate the Passover at this point, and they did. What this is rather probably a reference to the Passover as a a. A reference to the entirety of the feast of unleavened bread, which would've been mm-hmm. The meal that was going on throughout the entire time. So they didn't wanna be defiled so that they wouldn't be able to continue to observe the feast of unleavened bread, which is probably what's meant by the umbrella term Passover here that's used in this portion of John's Gospel. Yeah. And again we see pilot. Struggling with this the Jewish leaders are very determined, but Pilate is struggling with this. And, he is again, I mean you mentioned it already, but I think we continue to see evidence of the sinlessness of Jesus and even recognized again, like you've said by the secular authorities. Yeah. And still the power of Jesus that he's still in control. Mm-hmm. 'cause pilots looking at him going, Hey don't you know that I can help you out here? And initially, pilate says, I heard you're a king. And Jesus said, yeah but my kingdom is different than what you're thinking. If my kingdom was of this world, my followers wouldn't have let me be turned over to you. Yeah, again, that's a flex by Jesus. And then he goes over and in chapter 19, Pilate's gonna be interviewing him and saying, don't you want me to release you? I have power to free you. And Jesus again, flexes. And he says to him in verse 11 you would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given to you from above. Therefore, he has delivered me over to you, has the greater sin. So. Jesus is telling pilot, pilot, pilot, pilot. You don't understand. Yeah. You do not understand how this is working right now. He's in control the whole time. And the father's in control the whole time. Yeah. What is Jesus's kingdom? Jesus says in verse 36 of 18, he says, my kingdom is not of this world. What is Jesus's kingdom? Yeah. There, there's kingdom of God, kingdom of heaven terminology and some people wanna bifurcate those two. I don't, I see them as synonymous with one another. And it's a reference to what's gonna ultimately be. Inaugurated in part at the millennial kingdom. And so that's the beginning of this, but then that's his reign all the way through the eternal state as well. So, it's looking forward to this future kingdom that is not a kingdom of the earth, but it's when all the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of God. Mm-hmm. And that is to go back to Daniel chapter two in the statue. This is the rock that's cut out of the mountain. As without hands. This is the fifth kingdom from Daniel two, the kingdom that will have no end. This is. Jesus's kingdom here. Is there any, I agree with you. Is there any aspect in which, at this point in the story, there is a kingdom that is not of this world? 'cause he's saying it in present tense. Right. And that's where, so our millennial brothers and sisters will say that the millennial kingdom is metaphorical, that Jesus is reigning in our hearts. Jesus was here. The kingdom is near that. What's mentioned in the gospels because of Christ's presence on earth at this time as the king, the kingdom, the offer of the kingdom, some extreme dispensationalist we're deep in the weeds. Now, we'll even argue that Jesus was legitimately offering the kingdom to the Jews if they would've received him at his first coming, right? That he was willing to set up the kingdom there on Earth at that point. I can't get there because Jesus. Being omniscient, being God knew what God's timeline and plan was. And there's plenty of other things that he says in John 10, for example, I have sheep that are not of this fold. He's referencing gentiles there. Mm-hmm. There's multiple times there, so I can't get there. But the king is there. So thereby the kingdom is near anywhere. The king is, the kingdom is gonna be near. I think as progressive dispensationalist, we can see a spiritual kingdom that is at work right now. Though the ultimate. Fulfillment of that will be the literal kingdom, and that is gonna be the millennial reign of Christ on Earth during the thousand years, and then after that in the eternal state as well. Yeah, I think that's helpful. I think that's helpful. That's why I ask. Appreciate it. Great answer. Appreciate it. Hey, crucifixion in John's account here, he records different things, Inc. In fact, including the account of the soldiers dividing up the garments, which. The other gospel writers record as well. But John references that this is, was to fulfill Psalm 2218 which is a prophetic psalm where they divided my garments among them. And for my clothing they cast lots. So even the them doing that. And then there's this special moment between Jesus and John and Mary where John. Is entrusted with the care of Mary Jesus' mother. And so that's just that personal element of Christ. Even on the cross he's loving his mom at that point and making sure that she's gonna be taken care of. And then you've got the death of Jesus, which is recorded differently here. But we, there's a phrase that we didn't talk about yesterday that would probably be helpful for us to talk about here, and that is the phrase, my God, why have you forsaken? Me pastor Rod, talk about, or Pastor? Pastor Mark. Still here. Pastor Bergman. I dunno. I dunno. Pastor Mark. Pastor Mark. Talk to us about why that phrase has caused some problems over the years with Christians. Well, I grew up in a great church as a kid, but one of the things that I remember learning was the father turned his face away. We sing that sometimes. Yeah, we do. We do. And I think that is a. Confusing, confusing way of constructing that idea. Mm-hmm. I could see why, I can see why that was put together that way and why that was included in the song. But I think it's confusing because one, the father doesn't have a face, and even as a kid you start thinking about how does somebody who has a face turn their face away from the person that they are? Right. Right. Confusing. I don't think that's helpful. And also theologically, is that actually possible? Right. Is it possible for the Trinity to somehow break apart mm-hmm. Split apart? Mm-hmm. Of course it's not, but to be gracious to the people who came up with that, I understand where they're coming from. Right. But I think it's more confusing than it is helpful. Right. They're trying to use poetic license to help us to understand the significance of the wrath of God being poured out on Jesus. And that we can agree on, we can give credit for, the problem is yeah, it does imply a severing of the Trinitarian relationship mm-hmm. Between the father and the son. And that's not what's taking place here. And that's not what Jesus means here. It's a turning over. It's, again the father, the forsakenness is Jesus. I think at this, in that moment. Knowing the fullness of the wrath of God against our sin. Mm-hmm. And so he is looking at the father, and he's asking this, not in an accusatory fashion, but I think this is an extension of his true humanity. When we go back to his wrestling with even the father's will in the Garden of Gethsemane, when he finally submits his human will to the father's will to say, not my will, but your will be done. This is why he was praying. Father, if there's. Any way for this cup to pass from me, let it be. So, I think this is the true humanity of Jesus crying out under the full weight of the cross and the full weight of the father's displeasure, not with the son, but with our sin upon the son. And the way that that's explained is it's as though you have forsaken me, but that relationship never broke. That's right. That the father and the son and the spirit cannot have any part of their relationship. Severed and remain God. Yeah. And some will even teach that. That was true for three days. Right. That he descended into hell even for Right. Three days. Right. And was separated somehow. But you can't hold those things together. No. You can't, you can't theologically hold those things together. It doesn't work. Right. And even his words of the thief on the cross would undermine that when he looks at the thief on the cross and says, today you will be with me in Paradise. Yeah. So that's that forsakenness if you've read that or heard that or sung that. And so if you're wondering, well, should we not sing that line anymore? I don't think we wanna press it that far. Again, sometimes poetic license does the best job that we can to try to explain something. Mm-hmm. And I think we can believe the best about the authors of that song. Mm-hmm. Jesus dies, he, his side is pierced here. That's a unique account in John. His side is gonna be pierced by the soldier and the blood and water are gonna come out. And doctors have even talked about the pericardial sac and how that. Happens when it's likely that was the pierce there, that took place. That's another evidence of the death of Christ. In fact, when he raises it from the dead, that's one of the things that he points to with Thomas. He says, feel my side where the spear went in. And so John records that for us. And then in his burial, we not only find. Joseph Athea here, but we also find Nicodemus. And so Nicodemus is such an encouragement to me because it's a picture of the process of God's grace at work in somebody's life. 'cause Nicodemus initially comes at the beginning of John, John chapter three, and then we see him there at the end of John. Towards the end of John, John chapter 19. He's helping Jo Joseph Athea buried the body of Jesus. I don't think if Nicodemus had not come around to be one of his followers. I don't think he's there bearing Jesus. And so it'll be fascinating to find out when we get to eternity. But I would venture a guess is to say we're gonna be spending eternity with Nick Nicodemus. I think he's gonna be there. I agree. I agree. I think that is a kind and helpful nod from John to us to encourage us in the way that you're encouraged. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, hey everybody just wanted to also let you know that, and we should have mentioned this a couple days ago. We didn't, and we're remiss for that. But Kelly Smith, who is our church admin here, she does such a great job for us. She's out of the office right now. She's recovering from surgery, so if you can be praying for her, that would be fantastic. I know she's eager and she's recovering and she's eager to get back to the hospital, but or back to the hospital. Yeah. Say she's not eager to get back to the hospital. Sorry. It's not eager. No one ever has been either, either for the incident. She's eager to get back. To the work, to the office is what I meant. But we want her to rest up and recover fully. So be praying for Kelly and if you've got her her number, maybe text her and let her know you love her, care for her. We're praying for her and we can't wait to have her back. But let's pray and then we'll be done with this episode. God, thanks for your word and thanks for your kindness To us. We pray that we would continue to take it and apply it to our lives whether that, as we were talking about earlier, be through an audio Bible or reading it with our eyes or however it may be. I pray that we would just take your word in and that we would learn it. Love it and apply it. We pray this in Jesus name. Amen. We pray that we don't pray. We hope that you guys have a great rest of the day. Keep in your Bibles and tune in again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. I'll be praying. You have a great day. Thanks, man. Bye.

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Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said