Speaker A

Hello and welcome back.

Speaker B

Welcome back.

Speaker B

Cheers.

Speaker B

Cheers.

Speaker A

Welcome back to episode two.

Speaker A

We're talking about relationships.

Speaker A

We're talking about our story.

Speaker A

We're just having some fun.

Speaker A

But also we're talking about the show.

Speaker A

Later Daters.

Speaker B

Later Daters.

Speaker A

We introduced the characters last time.

Speaker A

We shared some personal stories.

Speaker A

Let's get into, actually, the episodes, the dates.

Speaker A

The dates a little more kind of the meaty part of the show.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

I think the first date we saw was Suzanne.

Speaker A

Suzanne and Frank.

Speaker B

Frank.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

So tell me your impression of Frank.

Speaker B

Oh, Frank seemed sweet.

Speaker B

He really seemed sweet.

Speaker B

He seemed like he was way more excited about her than she was about him.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So Frank was, I think, a few years younger than her.

Speaker A

She was 62.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

And he works as an attorney.

Speaker A

And so what we learned.

Speaker A

What did we learn about Suzanne on this date?

Speaker A

She's a big football fan.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

She's in her.

Speaker B

What was her team?

Speaker A

Georgia Bulldogs.

Speaker A

Go Dogs.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

She's really.

Speaker B

I mean, even to the point where she's like, ooh, well, he don't like the Bulldogs, so that's out.

Speaker B

Or if it was somebody that was like a rival of the Bulldogs, she's like, oh, no.

Speaker B

Like.

Speaker B

And I guess maybe I'm just not into sports like that.

Speaker B

That seems odd to me that that would be, like, a deal breaker for somebody.

Speaker A

No, we live in Austin.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

We know there are people who live, breathe, and die for the long.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

And so we're familiar with the concept.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

Neither of us subscribe to that concept.

Speaker B

Right, Right.

Speaker B

You know, so there's probably some ut people who are like, ooh, if you.

Speaker B

From what?

Speaker B

Ou.

Speaker A

Oh, you.

Speaker B

You owe you.

Speaker B

Ooh, I can't date you.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

That would be.

Speaker A

It would be a thing.

Speaker B

That'd be the equivalent.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

Or A and M.

Speaker B

So I thought it was kind of strange that that was kind of like one of her kind of deal breakers, or side eyes, I guess.

Speaker B

But the one thing that was funny about Suzanne is the dating coach gave her some advice.

Speaker A

She did.

Speaker B

Of what would be kind of a good opener, you know, to kind of get somebody to talk and to kind of, you know, connect with somebody.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

So she said.

Speaker B

So she's totally head over heels for Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker B

So to the point to where, like, she first meets this guy.

Speaker B

She walks in, he's there, he's like, oh, my God, you look so beautiful.

Speaker B

He brought her flowers, and they're sitting down, and they do a little couple chit chats, and then he's getting ready to obviously tell her something about.

Speaker A

He was about to go off into something.

Speaker B

He was about to go off into something.

Speaker B

She goes, I'm gonna stop you.

Speaker B

Like, she was like, kanye, I'll let you finish.

Speaker A

I'll let you finish.

Speaker B

I'm gonna let you finish.

Speaker B

But.

Speaker B

And she was like, so I've been watching this, listening to this wonderful Matthew McConaughey podcast.

Speaker B

Like, she went into the whole spiel of what the dating coach told her to do, and it was almost kind of like, oh, well, let me go ahead and get this out of the way so I don't forget that I'm supposed to do this.

Speaker A

Yeah, it was her.

Speaker A

It's trying to spur conversation in, like, a fun, whimsical way is kind of how I took it.

Speaker B

That was what was so funny.

Speaker B

She didn't need to spur conversation because this dude was getting ready to, like.

Speaker B

Like, he was actually getting ready to say something about himself to start the conversation.

Speaker B

And she was like, I'm let you finish, but I got to tell you something.

Speaker B

And it was just like.

Speaker B

And then when she finished with what she was going to say, I was just like, really?

Speaker B

Is that what you're going to say?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And he was receptive.

Speaker B

But I get that she wanted to kind of like, you know, she want to be a good student.

Speaker B

You know, like, oh, let me check this out.

Speaker A

And I think the point was, so you have something to talk about that can push the conversation forward.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

That was the dating coach's advice, and that's why she was bringing.

Speaker B

Telling her that if she needed something, it wasn't like, oh, you need to do this on your date.

Speaker B

And that's how.

Speaker B

I think that's how she took it.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

And so she was like, oh.

Speaker B

Cause if you remember, at the end of the dates, like, they all.

Speaker B

They talk to the dating coaches.

Speaker B

And so the dating.

Speaker B

So she was really excited to tell the dating coach that she used that line, you know, that she opened with that.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

So it was almost kind of like she's trying to be a good student, but at the same time, it's kind of like, okay, you didn't need to, like, interrupt what he was saying to say that.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

Anyway, I just thought that was kind of.

Speaker B

Let me follow us.

Speaker B

The playbook of what the dating coach told me kind of thing.

Speaker A

But she was very proud of herself.

Speaker B

She was very proud of herself after that.

Speaker B

She was very proud of herself.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

She wanted to report back.

Speaker A

I follow your advice.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

She wanted to get a gold star for that.

Speaker B

She was so she was so proud of herself.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

And Frank seemed like a nice enough dude.

Speaker B

Yeah, he seemed nice.

Speaker B

He's sweet.

Speaker A

She was really put off by the fact that he wasn't into the Bulldogs.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

That he didn't always seem to be a football fan.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

I guess.

Speaker A

He mentioned that he played golf.

Speaker A

And when she's like, oh, you're a golfer.

Speaker A

He's like, I mean, I'm all right.

Speaker A

He even seemed to, like, kind of beg off.

Speaker B

Well.

Speaker A

Well, she pigeonholed it.

Speaker B

Well, yeah.

Speaker B

Because she said, I don't know nothing about golf.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

She was like, I can't do golf.

Speaker B

Like, it was almost kind of like.

Speaker B

She made it sound like, that's a strike.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

You play golf.

Speaker B

Like, you know, the way she said it.

Speaker B

And Also, he had two kids, but one of them was 16.

Speaker A

That was an issue for him, and.

Speaker B

That was a huge issue for her.

Speaker B

She was like.

Speaker B

She was to the point of like, I ain't trying to raise nobody's kids.

Speaker B

And it was like, okay, he's 16.

Speaker B

Kid's 16.

Speaker A

By the time this possibly gets serious.

Speaker B

He'S gonna be gone.

Speaker B

But that was a big, super red.

Speaker B

You could tell.

Speaker B

A super red flag for her.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

For sure.

Speaker A

Suzanne's daughter, who's, I'm gonna guess, 30ish.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Comes into to see her on the date, and the daughter's take is, oh, the chemistry is just great, and they're just terrible.

Speaker A

And it kind of fizzled after that, apparently.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Because by the time they get to the end of the day, Frank is down for another day.

Speaker A

Oh, he wants another date.

Speaker A

Absolutely.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And Susanna's like.

Speaker B

Well, she.

Speaker B

When she said he.

Speaker B

When he asked her, she goes.

Speaker B

She goes, I'm not gonna tell you if I'm gonna go on a second date with you.

Speaker B

Like, she almost seemed offended, which is.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So that.

Speaker A

That's one of my main frustrations with Suzanne.

Speaker A

This whole thing about, oh, I'm not going to tell you if I want to go out with you.

Speaker A

And the Danny folks called her on that, I think, in episode two.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

About how you want to maintain this, like, mysterious nature.

Speaker A

And O, I'm not going to tell you if I like you.

Speaker A

She's like, that's.

Speaker A

That's 40 years ago.

Speaker B

But also, like, at her age, she's playing out hard to get.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

Like.

Speaker B

Ooh.

Speaker B

Like, I don't know.

Speaker B

Like, bitch.

Speaker B

Really?

Speaker B

Are we doing this at this age?

Speaker B

Are we playing hard to get at this age?

Speaker A

That's kind of what the dating coach was saying.

Speaker B

Like, that was, you know, and I'm glad.

Speaker B

Like, that kind of made me kind of look at the dating coach.

Speaker B

Like, okay, she.

Speaker B

She might be here for a reason.

Speaker B

Like, she might have a reason to be here kind of thing.

Speaker B

Because the dating coach was even like, you know, what is this?

Speaker B

Playing coin?

Speaker B

You know, like, ooh, I don't know.

Speaker B

Or ooh, you know, playing hard to get.

Speaker B

Like, she was like, we don't need to be doing that.

Speaker A

Yeah, she wants to be mysterious.

Speaker A

That's what I wrote.

Speaker A

Playing hard to get.

Speaker A

That, I guess used to be a thing.

Speaker A

I never subscribed to that.

Speaker A

Are you serious?

Speaker A

I wonder what Time is Thinking says, nobody said no.

Speaker B

Whatever.

Speaker B

No, I don't think I ever played, like, hard to get.

Speaker B

I think I just.

Speaker B

I never subscribed to that.

Speaker B

I just always felt like, you know, like, you need to let me know if you like me or not.

Speaker A

I remember hearing about, like, the three day rule, right?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

If you go out, you call me right away.

Speaker A

Yeah, I always thought that.

Speaker B

I always thought that was dumb.

Speaker B

I was like, why?

Speaker B

Like, that's so silly.

Speaker B

I think I just subscribed to if you like me.

Speaker B

Like, let me know, because I'm not gonna know unless you let me know.

Speaker A

I was never mysterious.

Speaker B

Yeah, there's nothing mysterious about you.

Speaker A

There's not.

Speaker A

I don't think so.

Speaker A

There's so much mystery here.

Speaker B

Oh, okay.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker A

I'm just one big question mark.

Speaker A

Oh, wow.

Speaker A

Someday you figure that out.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

Maybe next 12 years.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

The next job here is going to be really interesting.

Speaker B

I have that to look forward to.

Speaker A

That whole idea of don't call for three days.

Speaker A

Or as one of our other favorite shows would suggest, you know, as a younger man, me, if I call this woman, there's a possibility of sexual, which makes the whole proposition of calling her way more interesting.

Speaker B

Oh, okay.

Speaker A

Which is.

Speaker B

What is this point?

Speaker A

The point is that it's about being mysterious or not.

Speaker B

Oh, mysterious.

Speaker A

And so Sam Stan from Atypical took that mindset, so.

Speaker A

No, I think that was.

Speaker A

I mean, I think that's an honest version of how a lot of young dudes think.

Speaker A

Yeah, I mean, why am I going to wait?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

If I respond to her sooner, maybe something good.

Speaker A

Laughing yeah, well, that should be the thing, right?

Speaker B

Might snooze, you lose.

Speaker A

If I like her, why not tell her?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Dating coach.

Speaker B

I think she even said, like, why are we playing games here?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

I felt bad for him at the end of the date because he really seemed like he was into her.

Speaker A

He did seem like he was interned.

Speaker B

He was.

Speaker A

She seemed to have a different take.

Speaker B

And then before we move on to the next person, did you remember, like, she even, like, messengered her on Facebook.

Speaker A

Messenger.

Speaker B

He tracked her down and so the daughter was like, oh, my God, look how cute he messages.

Speaker B

She's like, ooh, how gross.

Speaker B

Like, she was almost, like, offended that he, like, reached out to her.

Speaker B

And I thought, wow, good for him for, like, making it known what he wants.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

But she was almost, like, offended by it.

Speaker B

Like, how dare he reach out to me on messenger.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

You know, like.

Speaker B

Anyway, I don't know.

Speaker B

I don't know what her thinking is again.

Speaker B

It might be old school thinking on her part.

Speaker A

Yeah, no, I thought that was kind of the best redirection we had from Logan, the dating coach, which was.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Why are you going to do that?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

If you like me, tell me you like me.

Speaker B

Otherwise I'm not going to.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

You want to go on a second date with me, you got to tell me.

Speaker B

I don't know that unless you tell me.

Speaker A

So reflect to our first date, that Sunday night.

Speaker A

Date 12, 16, 12.

Speaker A

In terms of.

Speaker A

I don't.

Speaker A

I mean, I think by the end of that night, I think we had at least communicated.

Speaker A

I would like to see you again.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

And I think we both agree that was the best date ever.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Cheers to that.

Speaker B

Cheers to that.

Speaker B

Best date ever.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

I don't think either of us were trying to be mysterious or.

Speaker A

I mean, I think I had made it pretty clear that I thought you were very attractive.

Speaker B

Well, I mean, I think after that date, I think it was pretty obvious we were going to see each other again.

Speaker B

At some point, we let each other know that this was the best day.

Speaker A

This is going well.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

It wasn't like we're trying to, like, guess or play cool.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

So I think we.

Speaker B

What was so cool and.

Speaker B

And really amazing is that after that date, I think things just flowed pretty easily and naturally.

Speaker B

It wasn't like, okay, well, can I see you again?

Speaker B

Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker B

Like, we're just kind of like, okay, what are you doing tomorrow?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

You want to come over?

Speaker B

I want to.

Speaker B

Like, it was almost kind of like we had already weaved each other in our lives at that point, because it was funny because I think we had even shared a few days later that before then we both been talking or dating another person.

Speaker B

Not necessarily that it was something serious, but we had gone on dates with these people and had seen them more than once.

Speaker B

And, you know, we were occasionally kicking with them.

Speaker B

And I think you had even said, like, you had opened up to me and said that you had been doing it, and you were like.

Speaker B

And I just told her that, like, I didn't want to see her anymore because I, you know, actually, like, interested in somebody else.

Speaker B

And you were like.

Speaker B

And that's.

Speaker B

You.

Speaker B

Like, you were like, in case you were wondering.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

So then I shared with you that I had done the same thing, that it was somebody that I was just kind of, like, kicking away.

Speaker B

I would see every now and then and basically told him, like, yep, I found somebody.

Speaker B

And I think I really want to pursue that.

Speaker B

Like, I think that's going to go somewhere.

Speaker B

So I thought it was interesting that.

Speaker B

That that part of our lives had happened at the same time.

Speaker B

Like, we were both kind of like, okay, just let you know.

Speaker B

Okay, just let you know.

Speaker B

And it was like, okay, yeah.

Speaker A

Well, yeah.

Speaker A

And I think at that point now, we didn't know exactly what we had, but I think we recognized very quickly.

Speaker A

This is different.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

This is something I don't remember seeing anytime recently.

Speaker B

Yeah, I think it definitely.

Speaker B

I think we both realized early on that this was a different connection than we've ever had with anybody ever.

Speaker B

I think you were pretty upfront with me, which made me feel a little bit, like, less guarded and beautiful, you know, forthcoming with you.

Speaker B

So I.

Speaker B

I think I really like that in that we didn't leave each other guessing how we felt, even to the point where, you know, after we've kind of been dating for a little while, like, you wrote me a text message one day, and you were like, okay.

Speaker B

You were like.

Speaker B

You're like, you gonna think this is silly, but I can really focus on what you're saying now.

Speaker B

Like, you.

Speaker A

You were.

Speaker B

You were like.

Speaker B

Before.

Speaker B

You see, you really, like, you're.

Speaker B

I was so distracted by how pretty you are.

Speaker A

You.

Speaker B

And I think you even put in something like, I really hope you never asked me anything.

Speaker B

Like, it's really important that, like, I need to respond with, like, a smart answer.

Speaker B

You're like, because I didn't hear fuck thing you said, like, the first, like, whatever months of us dating.

Speaker B

Like, and I thought that was so.

Speaker B

It was funny, but it was so sweet because I had never, like, had anybody, like, say that before.

Speaker B

And you were like, yeah, I hope you didn't ask me anything important, like, in those months, because you were like.

Speaker B

Because I heard nothing you say.

Speaker A

No, That's.

Speaker A

That.

Speaker A

That's 100% true.

Speaker A

That.

Speaker A

No, I mean, I just like, me even Looking at you now, like, you're just so pretty, and it's like, it's so distracting.

Speaker A

It's like a work of art.

Speaker B

It's so sweet.

Speaker A

No, and then.

Speaker A

And so this is the space I live in.

Speaker A

Imagine how hard this is.

Speaker A

So you have to.

Speaker A

You have to balance the whole thing of, like, oh, wow, look at.

Speaker A

She's so.

Speaker B

And then listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker A

And that's like.

Speaker A

She actually asked me to do something.

Speaker A

She asked me to do something that I would like to keep looking at this space.

Speaker A

So I need to try to remember what that thing was.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

No, it was entirely true.

Speaker A

And I wasn't trying to be endearing.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

So, yeah, it's funny.

Speaker B

I just thought that was so cute.

Speaker B

I was like, oh, my God, that's so cute.

Speaker A

Yeah, no, it's.

Speaker A

Come on, fellas.

Speaker A

Any.

Speaker A

Any y'all with your beautiful wives.

Speaker A

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A

And then it's.

Speaker A

It's a blessing.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

I've never had anybody say that to me.

Speaker B

But again, going back to honesty, right?

Speaker B

Not trying to have your partner, like, guess and be all mysterious and, like, ooh, I can't let them know I'm into them.

Speaker B

Like, I'm glad that neither one of us had ever really subscribed to that.

Speaker B

Suzanne seems to live in that space, but her coach is kind of trying.

Speaker A

To break her out.

Speaker B

Trying to break her out of it, which is good.

Speaker A

Well, and I kind of felt bad for Frank.

Speaker B

I did.

Speaker B

I felt really bad for Frank.

Speaker A

And also, blanket statement.

Speaker A

Okay?

Speaker A

So it's one thing for these folks who are going to be on the show to have the guts to be on the show, of course.

Speaker A

But you got dudes just popping in for.

Speaker A

You gonna have a blind date on tv.

Speaker A

On tv.

Speaker A

That's ballsy.

Speaker B

That's very ballsy.

Speaker A

Or stupid or bally combination.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

So no, again, props to Frank.

Speaker A

I thought Frank was cool.

Speaker B

I think Frank will end up meeting somebody.

Speaker B

Like, he just really seemed like he was a nice dude, and he seemed like.

Speaker B

What was interesting is all of Suzanne's, like, quirkiness and craziness didn't seem to faze him.

Speaker B

Just seem to faze him one bit.

Speaker B

And he was, like, fine with it.

Speaker B

Like, you never, ever had a reaction from him like, oh, my God, what?

Speaker A

Like, he was just.

Speaker B

Everything she said was either funny or he was like, oh, my God, that's so interesting.

Speaker B

I want to hear more.

Speaker B

Like, you know what the thing about Frank is that he was into her.

Speaker B

Like, she would actually.

Speaker B

I Think she would have a good life with Frank if she would just kind of let go of some of these crazy things in her head because he all about her.

Speaker A

He seemed low drama.

Speaker B

Yeah, he really did.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

And he seems like he's such a calm person.

Speaker B

That's the type of person Suzanne needs.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah, She's a lot.

Speaker A

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

And I'm not as speaking for the president of the allot committee.

Speaker B

You need somebody that's gonna like the.

Speaker A

Calmer version, who appreciates your version of a lot.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

So you say you're a lot.

Speaker A

I don't feel like you're a lot.

Speaker A

She's a lot.

Speaker B

Yeah, Suzanne's a lot.

Speaker B

Anyway, Frank, I hope you find something.

Speaker A

So then we have another date.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

And I think the next date we saw was Anise and George, which was.

Speaker A

We got certainly so far my favorite date.

Speaker A

That's the favorite.

Speaker B

Oh, of course, of course.

Speaker A

Because why?

Speaker B

Because George was.

Speaker A

He was a fool.

Speaker B

He was.

Speaker B

He was a funnel.

Speaker B

George was a straight up fool.

Speaker A

Okay?

Speaker B

So first of all, let me paint the picture of the date for you.

Speaker B

Anise, my girl.

Speaker B

Oh, baby, she pulled out all the stop.

Speaker B

She had the little black dress on with the V cut, with the boobies out and the booty out.

Speaker B

And it was a miniskirt.

Speaker B

Oh, baby, she came.

Speaker B

She didn't come to play.

Speaker B

She showed all her assets.

Speaker B

Okay, she wants in.

Speaker B

60 plus represents 60 plus.

Speaker B

Hey.

Speaker B

Hello.

Speaker B

And she looked good too.

Speaker B

George sitting.

Speaker A

I will second that emotion now.

Speaker B

You know what?

Speaker B

George was a nice looking black man.

Speaker A

He was a nice looking man.

Speaker B

Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker B

I'm just.

Speaker B

I want to let everybody know he was black.

Speaker B

Every time I say somebody nice looking black man, he's like.

Speaker B

Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

I'm not sure.

Speaker A

So you trying to say he's good looking for a black man?

Speaker B

No, I'm just saying.

Speaker A

God, you're so racist.

Speaker B

Oh my God.

Speaker B

I just let people know he was black, but he was a nice looking man.

Speaker A

A nice looking man.

Speaker A

Also, comma black man.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

Okay, so.

Speaker B

And she even said in her confessional when she first saw him, she was like, he is a nice looking man.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

Like he had the salt and pepper hair.

Speaker A

Yep, yep.

Speaker B

Black, no crack.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

So she walks in and clearly he was.

Speaker A

I'm sorry, he was a few years younger.

Speaker B

Just a few years.

Speaker A

59.

Speaker A

60.

Speaker A

I think he was 60.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

They're.

Speaker B

They're pretty close in age, but she's a little bit older.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

And she walks in and clearly he's like, oh, my God.

Speaker B

Like, right by the knock on his face, which is amazing.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

We love that.

Speaker A

She looked great.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

So she sits down, and then here's where everything just.

Speaker B

Well, and it goes off the rails pretty quick.

Speaker A

Everything was cool until he started talking.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

He literally starts it off by, I guess she mentions that she's older than him.

Speaker B

And then he goes, how old are you?

Speaker B

And I think even you and I looked at each other, like, okay, we're a little abrasive.

Speaker B

But again, we're talking about older people, so we're thinking, okay, maybe in their mind, like, this is just normal.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

And on the other hand, like, when you and I met on the dating app, I knew how old you are.

Speaker A

At least how old you represent.

Speaker A

Of course.

Speaker A

Dating app.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker A

So I didn't have to ask because I knew we were about to send it.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

But for him, obviously, they don't have.

Speaker B

Well, he.

Speaker B

She says her age, and then he goes, oh, wow, he beautiful.

Speaker B

And then he goes, black.

Speaker B

Don't cry.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

Yeah, Right.

Speaker A

Like, I get.

Speaker A

And that's fine.

Speaker B

And that's fine.

Speaker B

That's fine.

Speaker B

That's fine.

Speaker A

And true.

Speaker B

That's fine.

Speaker B

Ask me that.

Speaker B

I think he asked her, like, how many she.

Speaker B

She proceeds to say, like, how many kids she has.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

And she says, how many kids she has.

Speaker B

And he said, well, he says, how many kids he has?

Speaker B

And she says, how many kids she has.

Speaker A

And he even says, one that I.

Speaker B

Know of that he says.

Speaker B

He says, I only have one that I know of, which is.

Speaker A

Which is a little out there when you really don't know somebody.

Speaker B

But I took that as a little cheeky.

Speaker A

Cheeky, of course.

Speaker B

Like, I didn't think, like, I.

Speaker B

I honestly wouldn't have been.

Speaker B

I wouldn't have been bothered.

Speaker B

That's why he.

Speaker B

Cheeky.

Speaker A

But it's a little cheeky shirt.

Speaker B

And then she says, like, she has three.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

And then he says.

Speaker B

He says, they all have the same daddy.

Speaker B

And literally, Rob and I were so shocked by that, we paused it and then we went, what did he say?

Speaker B

We turned to each other and we both said.

Speaker B

When he goes, I'm going to back that up.

Speaker B

So we back it up again because we're like, no, he didn't say that.

Speaker A

He didn't really say that.

Speaker B

No, he did.

Speaker B

No, he did.

Speaker B

We got that wrong.

Speaker B

So he literally.

Speaker B

All by saying that.

Speaker B

And clearly, you can see on her face, like, he didn't just ask me that, did he?

Speaker B

Okay, so that's.

Speaker B

That's a little concerning.

Speaker A

And so then she says something about taking offense to that question.

Speaker A

Like, really, you ask people that and then he comes back, well, you know, that's some people.

Speaker A

And you know, some people got three baby.

Speaker A

Three kids by three different daddies.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Oh, but they got a good excuse.

Speaker B

Yep, yep.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

She says, excuse her.

Speaker A

Or explanation.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

Or.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And so that's.

Speaker A

That's out there.

Speaker B

That's out there.

Speaker A

Because of course, you know, you get to know somebody, it sounds so judgmental.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Hello.

Speaker A

And again, you know, people circumstances are people's circumstances.

Speaker A

And, you know, it's 2024.

Speaker B

We listen and we don't judge all the freaking time.

Speaker A

We love it.

Speaker B

We listen every day and we go.

Speaker A

To sleep and we wake up and we judge some more.

Speaker B

Okay, so then what was another thing that George said that was, like, controversial?

Speaker A

Well, so the one my favorite, George, when he tells.

Speaker A

So this woman who, again, she is very proud that she has her associates, her bachelor's, her Master's, and her Ph.D.

Speaker A

actually, as she would say, actually got my doctor.

Speaker A

Yep, that's right.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

And so God bless.

Speaker A

And that is awesome.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And we agreed on that.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

He proceeds to tell this woman who is super proud of how educated and how.

Speaker A

I think.

Speaker A

And I think I'm.

Speaker A

I think this is fair how far she has come up, because it doesn't sound like she started there.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

She has.

Speaker A

She has ascended.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

To this position, this status, this doctor ism.

Speaker A

He tells her, I like my women with a little ghetto in them.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And then he proceeds to tell her how she is.

Speaker A

Ghetto.

Speaker B

That's right.

Speaker B

That's right.

Speaker A

You need ghetto inside.

Speaker A

He tells her, yep.

Speaker B

You just need a blonde wig to like, bring that ghetto all fully out of you.

Speaker B

Michael's like, am I actually hearing this?

Speaker A

It's like, read the room, George.

Speaker B

You just need a blonde wig.

Speaker A

This room doesn't want a blonde wig or to be called ghetto.

Speaker B

So one of my all time favorites, georgism.

Speaker B

Georgism, we haven't touched on yet.

Speaker A

I know what you're gonna say, but go for it.

Speaker B

She asked him about him dating, right?

Speaker B

You know, he says, I fuck around in Atlanta.

Speaker B

He said, I mean, I date in Atlanta.

Speaker A

He lives in Chattanooga, so.

Speaker B

He lives in Chattanooga.

Speaker B

So he said.

Speaker B

He says, when she says, do you date very often?

Speaker B

He says, I fuck around in Atlanta.

Speaker B

And then he.

Speaker B

And it wasn't quick.

Speaker B

He was like, I date around in Atlanta.

Speaker A

Which was not an actual correction.

Speaker A

It was a joke.

Speaker A

Yeah, Right.

Speaker B

But for him to say that, like, to even Say, like, I fuck around in Atlanta.

Speaker A

So I looked it up, y'all.

Speaker A

Chattanooga is two hours from Atlanta.

Speaker A

I had no conception of that geography.

Speaker A

But, yeah.

Speaker A

So he lives two hours away.

Speaker A

So he comes into Atlanta just to.

Speaker A

Just to mess around.

Speaker B

I'm just like.

Speaker B

So he.

Speaker B

So he goes into Atlanta to have.

Speaker B

To basically have sex.

Speaker A

He asked her, oh, yeah, have you had any work done?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

So I think that was after she revealed that she was older than him.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

And then he goes, oh, well, you look great.

Speaker A

And he's black.

Speaker B

Don't crack.

Speaker B

And then there was a little pause, and then he says, you had any work done?

Speaker B

And again, we paused it, and we were like, did he just ask her if she had any work done?

Speaker A

I think y'all would actually enjoy watching these shows with us because we have a hell of a time.

Speaker A

We really do.

Speaker A

Really.

Speaker B

Actually, you know what George seems like?

Speaker B

He seems like that old, like, uncle, or that you.

Speaker B

That everybody used to have that if he started drinking, like, he just say anything, like, just like.

Speaker B

Didn't everybody have, like, some kind of uncle that was like that.

Speaker B

That was just like, mine was Bubba.

Speaker A

Uncle Bubba?

Speaker B

Uncle Bubba was like.

Speaker B

He literally was George, like, drunk.

Speaker B

And he would just tell you everything, whatever.

Speaker B

And you know what?

Speaker B

I digress.

Speaker B

But you know what I found out?

Speaker B

My great grandmother was Uncle Bubba.

Speaker B

Was her dude.

Speaker B

They.

Speaker B

They kicked it.

Speaker A

Oh.

Speaker A

He was always around, but he wasn't really an uncle.

Speaker B

Oh, but he was.

Speaker B

But he was always around, and we never knew.

Speaker B

We never knew.

Speaker B

Like, we were just, you know.

Speaker B

But now it makes sense.

Speaker B

Anyway, I'm sorry, I have to get off of that.

Speaker B

But.

Speaker B

Yeah, but literally, that's George.

Speaker B

He's my Uncle Bubba.

Speaker A

Huh.

Speaker B

Just say anything.

Speaker B

Oh, girl.

Speaker A

And I'm familiar with that concept.

Speaker A

I don't think I had anybody in my life.

Speaker B

You didn't have Uncle Bubba.

Speaker B

Aw.

Speaker A

But also, I think it's because you missed that, because I think my parents were similar to us in this, in a sense.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

We don't really fuck with a lot of people.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

We keep ourselves.

Speaker B

That's true.

Speaker A

And my mom, which was hard for my.

Speaker A

My mom had, you know, 13 brothers and sisters.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

But even so, I think I only really knew two of those siblings.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

You know.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

They kept their circle small.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

So, yeah, I don't like uncle buggers.

Speaker B

No.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But I'm familiar with the concept.

Speaker A

That's a phrase we hear a lot, you know, so and so.

Speaker A

Well, he just speaks his mind.

Speaker A

He's.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

He says his piece now we Seem to be electing those folks to office.

Speaker A

That's a different story for Japan.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

Anyway.

Speaker B

Okay, we're moving on.

Speaker B

Yes, Anise.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

Wait, so we just talked about her and George.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

Did we miss any George Lisms that we need to like?

Speaker A

You know, the only other one I wrote down was the waiter was like, y'all want some rolls?

Speaker A

And George is like, no.

Speaker A

Oh, gosh, yes.

Speaker B

Oh, my God.

Speaker B

Totally forget about this.

Speaker B

And so she looks at him like.

Speaker B

Like, she says, look on her face like, maybe rose would be good.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

And he goes, no, he goes, I'm looking out for you.

Speaker A

Looking out for you.

Speaker B

Looking out for you.

Speaker B

Basically, like saying, like, don't eat them.

Speaker B

You're gonna get fat.

Speaker A

That's how I took it.

Speaker B

Like, literally.

Speaker B

I'm just like, oh, my God, I could not believe he said that.

Speaker B

Oh, my God, I can't believe I forgot that.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

Which is so.

Speaker A

It was.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

He's like, y'all want some honey buttered Rose?

Speaker B

And he goes, no.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

And he said because she looked like, oh.

Speaker B

And he's like, no.

Speaker A

Right?

Speaker A

No, I definitely took it, like, was that show.

Speaker A

It was Identity Thief, right?

Speaker A

Where they're like, you can't eat, so we only have so much money.

Speaker A

And.

Speaker A

And so.

Speaker A

And Melissa McCarthy is, like, ordering the ribs.

Speaker A

Like, no, I told you, no ribs, you less food.

Speaker A

And yeah, that's the same vibes I got.

Speaker B

Seriously.

Speaker A

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

Speaker A

Really open to the idea.

Speaker B

He said rolls, and he was like, no.

Speaker A

So our next date is Nate and Latricia.

Speaker B

Nate and Latricia.

Speaker B

Describe to our audience Latricia Latricia is a nice looking black woman.

Speaker B

Nice looking woman.

Speaker B

She's tall.

Speaker B

She has a very nice body.

Speaker B

She's very slim.

Speaker B

I would say Latricia isn't going to turn heads with how she looks, but she's okay looking.

Speaker A

This is how I, in my mind.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Rape people.

Speaker B

Oh, okay.

Speaker B

Oh, do too.

Speaker A

Okay, so when it.

Speaker A

When it all boils down, it's this.

Speaker A

It's either cute, thumb to the side.

Speaker A

No, no, no.

Speaker A

There's no side.

Speaker A

You got to pick.

Speaker A

You got to pick a up or down.

Speaker B

Oh, there's either up or down.

Speaker B

There's no side.

Speaker A

Nope.

Speaker A

No, because a lot of people would be side.

Speaker A

You got to pick up or down.

Speaker A

Those are your only two options.

Speaker A

Light switch on.

Speaker A

Light switch off.

Speaker A

As we say in retrovolution.

Speaker B

She's not.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker A

That's where I'm going.

Speaker A

She is.

Speaker A

She's the thumbs up.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Because she is, again, not my type either, but attractive enough.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

And if you have to pick one or the other, she's thumbs up.

Speaker B

So here's the interesting thing.

Speaker B

Latricia, when she and Nate first kind of met or whatever, and he.

Speaker B

He gave her.

Speaker B

Brought her flowers, and the first thing that happened was after, like, they're, like, making small talk, but when the food came out, he wanted to bless the food.

Speaker B

And she thought she was so, like, you could tell, like, she was like, oh, my God, I can't believe I got somebody that, like, actual bless the food with me.

Speaker B

Because she was like, oh, check, check, check the box.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Check, check, check the box kind of thing.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

And so.

Speaker B

Which is great because a lot of times people don't align on that.

Speaker B

So to get somebody who does align with you on that, I.

Speaker B

I can.

Speaker B

I can imagine that.

Speaker A

Be comforting wherever you are on that spectrum.

Speaker A

Right, right.

Speaker B

And I felt like what was interesting with their day is they seem to have a lot in common.

Speaker B

A lot.

Speaker A

Military.

Speaker B

They're both military.

Speaker B

Just.

Speaker B

They just seem to, like, click on.

Speaker A

A lot of different levels.

Speaker B

Because the whole date, she's pretty much like, oh, my God, I can't believe.

Speaker B

He would ask her something.

Speaker B

She'd be like, oh, check that box.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Kind of jokingly or whatever, but.

Speaker B

And he seemed like he was into it, but afterwards, he was like he wasn't into it.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

And the weirdest part, as we were talking about, too, when we were watching it, is that in the middle of.

Speaker B

Or.

Speaker A

I don't know, in the middle.

Speaker A

Of course, we don't know from editing.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Probably towards the end.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

He's like, hey, a weird question to ask you.

Speaker A

Do you mind if we get a selfie?

Speaker A

And she's like, huh.

Speaker A

Well, that's unusual, but okay.

Speaker A

And she.

Speaker A

And he was saying.

Speaker A

So we can always remember when we first met.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Which sounds like.

Speaker A

It sounds like something that.

Speaker A

If I had been smart enough and.

Speaker B

Sappy enough, that would have been amazing.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

I would love to have this posted up.

Speaker A

We would have that frame Grinnell, but so, yeah, he seemed to almost be like.

Speaker A

Like, yeah, this is going great.

Speaker A

Yeah, I'm going to take this picture.

Speaker B

But even after he took the picture, if you notice, he even says, we're going to exchange numbers and we'll have each other's phone.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Because she said.

Speaker A

She said, send that to me as well.

Speaker A

Then.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

He says, my number.

Speaker B

Like, it was just like, as if, like, basically kind of perpetrating, like, oh, like we going out again?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

But then, like, the minute they left.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

And he's like.

Speaker B

They're feeling him getting in his car, and he's just, like, basically weighing on out of there.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

That was like.

Speaker B

It was just like a totally different person.

Speaker B

And I was just like, oh, my God.

Speaker B

All my dates before, you make so much sense now.

Speaker B

But they're so, like.

Speaker B

All of you guys are like that.

Speaker B

Like, why?

Speaker B

Like, we think we're on the best day ever, and then all of a sudden, we don't hear from you again.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Why is that?

Speaker A

I want to apologize on behalf of men for being assholes because we were just hoping to get laid that night, and when it didn't happen.

Speaker B

It was fine.

Speaker A

It was fine.

Speaker A

No, really, it was fine.

Speaker A

But also, I'm going to pursue other pastors.

Speaker B

That whole scene make me really.

Speaker B

I really had to check myself because I.

Speaker B

Going back to old time, I was like, this is what I'm dealing with.

Speaker B

This is men.

Speaker B

They were on the same page and everything they were clicking on.

Speaker B

When the producers away from her were asking him, he's like, oh, she seems like she too Christian, too, you know, too into God stuff.

Speaker B

I'm not really.

Speaker B

He was like, I'm a cne.

Speaker B

CNE Christian.

Speaker A

He was like, Christmas, New Year, Christmas.

Speaker B

New Year's, and Easter, like, that's when I go to church, you know, kind of thing.

Speaker B

And he was like.

Speaker B

And sing like, she goes church all the time, and I'm not like that.

Speaker A

Which was weird because he's the one who prayed over the food.

Speaker B

He's the one who offered to pray up the food, which is so crazy.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

So anyway, I didn't like that part about him.

Speaker B

I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker B

Like, he lost points with me with that.

Speaker A

That whole praying thing was odd.

Speaker A

It's very initiated.

Speaker A

But then he, like.

Speaker B

But then he's like, Lindy's, like, penalizing her.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

For real.

Speaker A

Anyway, so no, we're on the.

Speaker B

Suzanne and her second date, Avery and I wrote down that he was.

Speaker B

He's 59.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

So still a couple of years younger than her.

Speaker B

She didn't like that he didn't bring her roses.

Speaker A

Yeah, I wrote that down, too.

Speaker A

That the quote.

Speaker A

The quote of where are my roses?

Speaker B

Where are my roses?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

She was like.

Speaker B

She was like, he didn't bring me roses.

Speaker B

I don't like that.

Speaker B

Like, she was just, like, in her confessional, she was like, I don't like that.

Speaker B

She was really big on that.

Speaker B

But she liked doing the Whole hard to get thing with him.

Speaker B

Like, she was still kind of in that toll.

Speaker B

Like, I don't know.

Speaker B

Whoa.

Speaker A

What?

Speaker A

Keep him guessing.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

Why?

Speaker B

I don't know.

Speaker B

She's big on that.

Speaker B

And I don't know if she feels like that's like, flirty or.

Speaker A

And again.

Speaker A

So Suzanne, she's single because her husband died.

Speaker A

Part of me thinks that she doesn't really want to date.

Speaker B

Yeah, she did seem to like him a little bit.

Speaker B

Avery.

Speaker B

A little bit.

Speaker A

She definitely did.

Speaker B

Than Frank.

Speaker A

But I think.

Speaker A

And understandably, I think she's still probably twisted over her ex or her.

Speaker A

Her husband.

Speaker A

Pass.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And maybe there's guilt, maybe whatever.

Speaker A

Discomfort.

Speaker A

But I almost feel like she's throwing up impediments to make it impossible to actually achieve happiness through.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

That.

Speaker A

It's like, you know, if I.

Speaker A

Well, he's not this or he's not that.

Speaker A

Basically what he's not is your ex, your deceased husband.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And so part of me thinks that she really is artificial bearings.

Speaker B

And maybe we'll get to that with her talking to the dating coach, Logan later.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

But I agree with you.

Speaker B

Like, that makes.

Speaker B

So I hadn't thought about it like that before, but that makes so much sense.

Speaker B

Like, I feel like she's.

Speaker B

It's almost kind of like she's wanting all these boxes checked off that she did with her ex with the husband that died.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

And she's like, oh, they're not this.

Speaker B

And they are.

Speaker A

Right, right.

Speaker B

Like, it was like, there's no excuse.

Speaker B

They're out.

Speaker B

Like.

Speaker B

And I feel like she is kind of living in that world.

Speaker B

And maybe.

Speaker B

And you know what?

Speaker B

And honestly, maybe Suzanne will land to where, like, she's just like, I just like dating people and that's okay, too.

Speaker A

Well, she can have a date for the dogs game, so she can have a date for dinner.

Speaker B

You know, maybe like.

Speaker B

And who says, like, in this era of her life, she can't just, like, date and have fun?

Speaker B

Like, you know, nobody's saying you gotta, like, be unless that's what you want.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

To have a partner full time.

Speaker B

But maybe Suzanne's journey is just a date around.

Speaker B

And maybe that's what she'll feel.

Speaker B

Realize that's what she enjoys the most.

Speaker B

And ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker A

And there's enough white guys in Atlanta who I'm sure would like to date Suzanne.

Speaker B

Why'd you say it like that?

Speaker A

Because I think her being with a black guy is very unlike.

Speaker B

Okay, moving on.

Speaker A

I'm not saying she's racist.

Speaker B

No, you're right.

Speaker B

I'm just saying that's probably not.

Speaker A

That would be.

Speaker B

That's right.

Speaker A

That'd be a trip.

Speaker B

Yeah, that would be a trip.

Speaker A

Like, Suzanne, meet Nate.

Speaker A

Oh, my God, I found my person.

Speaker B

I would like to watch that show.

Speaker B

Yeah, that's not.

Speaker B

That's not a thing.

Speaker A

So the next date that came up was actually two of the people.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Anise and Nate.

Speaker B

And Nate.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

So two of the people that are on the show.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

So they went on a date.

Speaker B

What was your impression of that date?

Speaker B

I'm turning back on you.

Speaker B

Where's your friend?

Speaker A

I'm the interviewer.

Speaker A

They.

Speaker A

I mean, they don't.

Speaker A

I don't know.

Speaker A

I'm trying to think if they seem compatible individuals.

Speaker B

They don't seem compatible to me, and.

Speaker A

I'm not sure why, but I agree.

Speaker B

They don't seem compatible.

Speaker B

What.

Speaker B

You know what I did like about their date is, like, at the beginning of the date, when she starts talking about her education and stuff.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

And that's normally, like, she said, for other.

Speaker B

For guys, it's kind of like, ooh, you know, they back off or don't know what to say.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

He had the perfect response.

Speaker B

He was like, oh, my God, that's amazing.

Speaker B

High five on that.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

Which I thought was really good.

Speaker A

It was great, though, actually, the funny part about that exchange to me was she goes, I normally hold this back.

Speaker B

I knew you were going to say that.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And again, we have a talk about.

Speaker B

This, and we turn to each other, we're like, what?

Speaker A

It's like Kanye saying, I don't normally talk about how.

Speaker A

What a genius I am.

Speaker B

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker B

Exactly.

Speaker A

But again, we're getting a very slice of life.

Speaker A

Who now, of course, for the show.

Speaker B

Of course.

Speaker A

Maybe in real life, she really doesn't.

Speaker A

As far as we've seen, it comes up about every 10 minutes.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

But no, he had the perfect response, which was basically celebrating that.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And because she wants to be appreciated, she wants to be acknowledged.

Speaker A

And again, PhD is a huge accomplishment.

Speaker A

Who wouldn't have celebrate?

Speaker B

Another thing is he told her that he was a homebody, and she's like, oh, I'd like to go out.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

And he turned it around by basically saying, well, if I was dating you, I would totally take you out.

Speaker B

Like, I wouldn't have any problems going out, showing you off kind of thing.

Speaker B

So he turned it around, which I like that.

Speaker B

But even with all of that said, you could tell.

Speaker B

Like, I just don't.

Speaker B

Something like, it wasn't clicking.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Something with them wasn't clicking.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

So, you know, and one thing we didn't actually visit on from the first episode was that the dating coach had told Nate to be vulnerable, to say something vulnerable on his first date.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

And what he turned that into because, like, when I think of like somebody you were to tell me say something vulnerable, I'm not even sure what that is.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah, because you were even asking me, you were like, what would you have said?

Speaker B

And I responded with, I think that would mean, like, I would say something like, you know what, I was so nervous for this date.

Speaker B

Like, I must have changed alphas like five times.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

To me, that's vulnerable.

Speaker B

But also like not giving away too much.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

Because that's the thing.

Speaker A

You don't want to be like something that's unflattering.

Speaker A

Well, I used to beat my first wife.

Speaker A

I mean, you don't want to be that vulnerable to be that honest.

Speaker B

So what he said, it was him like not being able to continue being in the army.

Speaker B

When he jumped out of.

Speaker B

Well, he hurt himself, he injured himself.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So no, I mean, you can see they show him kind of walking around.

Speaker A

He is borderline quote unquote disabled.

Speaker A

You know, he doesn't get around great.

Speaker A

Now he's a very fit dude.

Speaker B

He works out, of course, but he's like the stuff he used to like to do, you know, like he was used to doing like, you know, jogging or hiking and all that stuff.

Speaker B

He was like, I'm not able to do that.

Speaker A

Running is out for him.

Speaker A

He hobbles around.

Speaker B

To me, that was, that was a good time for him to.

Speaker B

A good way for him to be vulnerable.

Speaker A

True.

Speaker A

But I wonder if for Anise, she never said this, but I wanted him kind of hobbling the way he does.

Speaker A

And she's an outgoing.

Speaker A

Yeah, he's a good looking dude.

Speaker A

Like, we agree.

Speaker A

Nate's a good looking dude.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

But is this like, is she viewing him with kind of side eyed, like he can't really keep up.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Even though he's six years younger than her.

Speaker B

So she's gonna view him like.

Speaker B

So before, like right before, this was after, like an awful, super awful relationship that was like super, super awful.

Speaker A

I would wait like two hours to.

Speaker B

Talk to me about it.

Speaker A

And let's just suffice to say he ended up in jail.

Speaker B

And he ended up in jail.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

So, yeah, this was awful.

Speaker B

So after that relationship, I was really hard on myself because I had always prided myself in knowing people and having a Vibe from people.

Speaker B

I would always know if somebody was, like, a bad person or a good person.

Speaker B

Like, I just, like.

Speaker B

Just something about, like, my instincts, I would always know.

Speaker B

So it messed with me after having this awful relationship, you know, that ended very badly.

Speaker B

And so after that, I was like, I date somebody that's totally different.

Speaker B

Totally.

Speaker B

Like, not even, like, what I would normally date.

Speaker A

Non threatening.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

So I, you know, date this older guy.

Speaker B

And I'd never date anybody, first of all, I never dated anybody my age or I'd never dated anybody older than me.

Speaker B

This guy was older than me, Right.

Speaker B

So it was like.

Speaker B

It was a thing with him.

Speaker B

Like, it was just like, he just.

Speaker B

To me, he acted old.

Speaker B

Like, he was just like, we get out of the car, we go somewhere, get out of the car.

Speaker B

We're taking forever to get out of the car, y'all.

Speaker B

I would literally go inside the restaurant, get the table, sit down, and then he would eventually come, like, because I was just so tired of waiting on him.

Speaker B

And my daughter, she's 26 now.

Speaker B

My daughter at the time was a lot younger.

Speaker B

Yeah, maybe.

Speaker B

Yeah, I guess 12, 13 or whatever.

Speaker B

And so I'm telling her this.

Speaker B

That, like, this is what I would do with this guy.

Speaker B

And she's like, oh, mama, so mean.

Speaker B

Stop it.

Speaker B

Don't be so mean, mama.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

And so I'm like, you.

Speaker B

You don't understand.

Speaker B

So she and I both go out to dinner with him, and I do it, and I'm like, come on.

Speaker B

I was like, you're gonna be forever.

Speaker A

Whatever.

Speaker B

She was, oh, my God.

Speaker B

She said, oh, my God.

Speaker B

Are we really going to the restaurant without him?

Speaker B

I was like, yeah, we're going.

Speaker B

So we go to the restaurant, we sit, we, y'all, when I tell y'all, we go in, ask for the table, sit down with the menus and stuff.

Speaker B

And then he come in.

Speaker B

I'm not lying.

Speaker B

And so literally, I think my daughter thought I was exaggerating.

Speaker A

Yeah, we're halfway through your appetite.

Speaker B

We're literally at the table.

Speaker B

And my daughter goes, oh, my God.

Speaker B

You really weren't lying.

Speaker B

He's not in here yet.

Speaker B

And I said, I told you.

Speaker B

That's why I'm like, wait on him.

Speaker B

No more.

Speaker B

Like, literally, he would act so old getting out of the car.

Speaker B

So that was, like, one of the things for me that.

Speaker B

Where I was like, yeah, this ain't never going nowhere.

Speaker A

I'm glad my getting the car skills are acceptable for you.

Speaker A

So Anise and Nate, they did not seem to click.

Speaker B

No.

Speaker A

And.

Speaker B

But it wasn't like a real obvious reason why.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Yeah, not to me either.

Speaker B

Like, it was just kind of like I felt like they were both being pleasant with each other.

Speaker A

They were.

Speaker A

But not you.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

You remember the real world.

Speaker A

Like this is what happens when people stop being polite to each other and start being real.

Speaker A

Welcome to the real world.

Speaker A

Real world Seattle.

Speaker A

That.

Speaker A

No, it was very surface.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

But you could tell there wasn't a connection.

Speaker A

There wasn't.

Speaker A

And now she's an attractive woman.

Speaker A

He's a good looking dude.

Speaker A

He seemed attracted to her.

Speaker A

And of course.

Speaker A

And she's the type of woman when she says, oh, I'm 62, I mean it's very similar to you now.

Speaker A

You're much more beautiful than her.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But it's the same reaction.

Speaker A

It's not a polite.

Speaker A

She looks much younger.

Speaker A

Yeah, certainly can be.

Speaker A

I mean, I would pin her, pinpoint her maybe for 50.

Speaker A

For sure, right?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And she's a good looking 50.

Speaker B

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A

But it's not.

Speaker A

And this is what I tried to tell Tanya for years.

Speaker A

So we started dating.

Speaker A

We were 44.

Speaker A

I made the joke pretty quickly.

Speaker A

I can't wait for you to be 50 because I can't wait to tell people you're 50.

Speaker A

You totally.

Speaker A

Because I knew we all understand those reactions when somebody says, you know, I'm 50, and they're like, oh, well, now you look great.

Speaker A

Yeah, you look great.

Speaker A

And sometimes that is, you look great for 50.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

But when Tanya, I envisioned, which I was right, 100% freaking right.

Speaker A

That when, when, at 50, when she would tell people I'm 50, it wasn't like, oh my goodness, well, look, you look great for 50.

Speaker A

It's more like, well, I'm 50 or now I'm 56.

Speaker A

It's not a normal, like, well, good for you.

Speaker A

It's like, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker A

It's like bullshit 50.

Speaker A

What it is a violent pushback usually is.

Speaker A

It really is.

Speaker A

And you finally actually kind of get it.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And so I know you're not going to be the one to sit here like, yeah, I look great.

Speaker A

So I will echo that all day and all night.

Speaker A

Because yeah.

Speaker A

When and if you're not familiar, look at her TikTok.

Speaker A

Look at her stuff.

Speaker A

No, she looks amazing.

Speaker A

And she doesn't look amazing for 56.

Speaker A

Yeah, she looks amazing.

Speaker A

And when she says 56, you're like, fuck you.

Speaker B

No, you.

Speaker A

No, that's just an untruth.

Speaker A

And I will not be reduced to accepting that as truth.

Speaker B

Accepting that as truth.

Speaker A

Yeah, no, it is.

Speaker A

And so I think the fact that niece is 62, she definitely doesn't look it.

Speaker A

But Nate also, so.

Speaker A

I mean, Nate's a good looking dude.

Speaker A

He is not probably hurting for meeting attractive women.

Speaker B

No, he's not.

Speaker A

I'm gonna speak as a straight man.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Assessing his negatives.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

The OCD could be an issue for some folks, but probably not.

Speaker A

It's probably not a huge deal.

Speaker A

But we don't know how deep that was.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

But he definitely.

Speaker A

Everything has a spot and everything is meticulous.

Speaker A

Cool.

Speaker A

Some people will dig it.

Speaker A

Some people will.

Speaker B

Jack is going to be issued.

Speaker A

Jackie's going to be issue.

Speaker A

And I think his.

Speaker B

If you don't know Jackie is his.

Speaker B

He and Jackie have a kid together from a one night stand kind of hookup.

Speaker B

But now Jackie is like one of his closest friends.

Speaker A

He says his best friend.

Speaker B

Jackie's his best friend.

Speaker A

Yeah, she.

Speaker B

I don't know how that's not gonna be a problem.

Speaker A

Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker A

And I was gonna say for some people, and I think this was an issue for Anise, even though she didn't say it.

Speaker A

I'll call it his disability.

Speaker A

He does not get around.

Speaker A

Great.

Speaker A

We saw him walking up the stairs and he was laboring.

Speaker B

I think for Anise, that comes across as old.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Like in her.

Speaker B

I think in her mind because she just.

Speaker B

Because she still looks great and she's still very active.

Speaker B

Like I think in her mind it's going to like be an old thing.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

And she's not ready for that.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

And again, he's fit, but he definitely.

Speaker A

He.

Speaker A

When we saw him walking up the stairs, it was.

Speaker A

It was a.

Speaker A

It was a labor.

Speaker A

They just did not seem fit.

Speaker B

No, they did not.

Speaker B

And that was clear early on.

Speaker A

So then we finally get to Pam, who is the fourth person we have met and the four of four that we have met.

Speaker B

Very centrifuge.

Speaker A

Tell me what can we revive on Pan.

Speaker B

Pam's.

Speaker B

Pam's out there.

Speaker A

Pam's a lot.

Speaker B

She is.

Speaker B

Pam is 70.

Speaker B

She's been married twice.

Speaker B

Both of her husbands died.

Speaker B

She's been single for years.

Speaker A

We have no reason to think she killed him.

Speaker B

She did not kill him.

Speaker A

Did she kill him?

Speaker A

She didn't kill him.

Speaker A

They just died.

Speaker B

Both her parents, both of her exes just happened to die.

Speaker B

She didn't kill him.

Speaker B

She's been single for 15 years.

Speaker B

And as the.

Speaker B

The dating coach said, she's living in a shrine.

Speaker A

She is.

Speaker B

She used to be married to a famous rock Star Steve Marriott from Humpty.

Speaker B

And they're in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

Speaker B

So that was a big deal.

Speaker B

Pam's out there.

Speaker B

She's out there now.

Speaker B

Her first date was with Robert.

Speaker A

It was.

Speaker B

He's 65 and he's divorced twice.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

He was very excited to meet her.

Speaker B

He.

Speaker B

He was excited to meet her.

Speaker B

But if you remember, he seemed like he had been waiting on her a while.

Speaker B

Like, she was really late.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Like.

Speaker B

And he was just like, now, remember, I've been here a while.

Speaker A

Like, he's just like, she lived an hour outside of it.

Speaker A

He's been in the country.

Speaker A

Like, country.

Speaker B

I'm just saying.

Speaker B

But they had a certain time.

Speaker B

There was me.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

And he.

Speaker B

You got the impression that he'd been there, he'd been waiting for a minute.

Speaker A

A bit frustrated, but at the same.

Speaker B

Time, he was open to like, okay, come on in.

Speaker B

Like, let's get a drink.

Speaker B

And she looked like she started with a tequila shot.

Speaker A

I'm sorry.

Speaker B

She had lime.

Speaker B

There was salt on the rim and a little bit of liquor, and it looked like she had tequila.

Speaker B

She started with a tequila shot.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker B

So I was like, oh, Pam.

Speaker B

Trying to get this started.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

And she just seemed like she came in hard, and bless his heart, Robert, he kept asking her questions about her, and then she just kept going on off the rails.

Speaker B

And then at one point, they had been there a minute, and you.

Speaker B

Robert even said to the confessional camera, like, she didn't ask me one damn thing by myself.

Speaker B

Like, I've been asking her all kinds of questions.

Speaker B

He was like, she ain't asked me nothing.

Speaker A

And he even had to go so far as to say, you don't know anything about me.

Speaker B

Because you haven't asked me anything.

Speaker B

You don't know anything about me.

Speaker B

He's just like.

Speaker B

But.

Speaker B

So he was upfront about that.

Speaker A

And then she's like, huh?

Speaker B

She's like, huh, really?

Speaker B

And I don't think she went to talking about herself.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker A

And again, ended it.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

I wrote down in quotes, you know nothing about me.

Speaker B

The other thing about Pam is that she presented herself as being very negative.

Speaker B

So she was like, I'm pissed off at the world.

Speaker B

I hate everybody, every motherfucking body.

Speaker B

Like, she just, like.

Speaker B

She was almost.

Speaker B

She came in that was blazing.

Speaker A

All of the people we met.

Speaker A

That is the biggest deal breaker for me.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

Coming in, like, being negative, and it get me down.

Speaker A

And look, life is complicated.

Speaker A

I don't expect somebody to be like, Let me tell you the 10 best things about my day.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

That's not real life.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

And again, editing.

Speaker A

Who knows?

Speaker A

Right?

Speaker A

But from what we saw, she was like, well, this sucks, and that sucks, and I don't like that.

Speaker A

This really bothers me.

Speaker B

Well, I wrote down.

Speaker B

She told him that she's pissed off at the world.

Speaker A

Yep.

Speaker A

And I don't care who you are or whether you're.

Speaker A

Whether you're in this because you want to get laid when you're in this because you want to find a soulmate, that is not a great springboard to anything good.

Speaker B

So I thought for myself, like, listening to that and looking at that, I was like, as I've gotten older, I literally want to be around negativity less.

Speaker B

Man.

Speaker B

She came in hot negative, and I'm just like, oh, my God.

Speaker B

Like, this is a bit much.

Speaker B

So I don't.

Speaker B

I don't see them being together.

Speaker B

We don't know what happens, but I don't see.

Speaker A

He was so frustrated with her by the end of that day.

Speaker A

You have to wonder if Robert was questioning what kind of show he was on, because I'm sure he didn't go through the same vetting process that the participants did.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And he had to be like, wait, this is a.

Speaker A

What dating show?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

You know, are these people all defective?

Speaker B

So I can't wait for episode three.

Speaker A

Yeah, no, it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

That was the end of episode two.

Speaker B

But you know what, though?

Speaker B

I feel like Pam is gonna make good tv.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

You know, actually, I think.

Speaker A

I think Pam.

Speaker A

This is post episode two.

Speaker A

Pam could benefit the most from Logan's dating tooth.

Speaker B

Oh, the dating coach.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

No, I think if he can.

Speaker A

If.

Speaker A

If they can meet somewhere, she actually could change her perspective.

Speaker A

She needs to change her perspective.

Speaker B

Oh, she needs to.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Because there's no way that the Persona she came in with to have that one date.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

That ain't working.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And so if she's open and Logan can connect with her, the other three folks we've met so far are not so damaged that I can't see it working.

Speaker B

Oh, for sure.

Speaker A

Pam.

Speaker A

In this headspace and this.

Speaker B

No, this is going to be a challenge for Logan.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

Because whatever Pam now isn't working.

Speaker B

Wait, wait.

Speaker B

And we still have two people to meet.

Speaker A

We do.

Speaker A

So we'll see.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker A

Thank you for joining us.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Cheers.

Speaker B

Cheers.

Speaker A

Take a sip.

Speaker A

Take a sip, indeed.

Speaker A

Thank you.

Speaker A

And we'll see you next time.