Hello and welcome back.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BCheers.
Speaker BCheers.
Speaker AWelcome back to episode two.
Speaker AWe're talking about relationships.
Speaker AWe're talking about our story.
Speaker AWe're just having some fun.
Speaker ABut also we're talking about the show.
Speaker ALater Daters.
Speaker BLater Daters.
Speaker AWe introduced the characters last time.
Speaker AWe shared some personal stories.
Speaker ALet's get into, actually, the episodes, the dates.
Speaker AThe dates a little more kind of the meaty part of the show.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AI think the first date we saw was Suzanne.
Speaker ASuzanne and Frank.
Speaker BFrank.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASo tell me your impression of Frank.
Speaker BOh, Frank seemed sweet.
Speaker BHe really seemed sweet.
Speaker BHe seemed like he was way more excited about her than she was about him.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo Frank was, I think, a few years younger than her.
Speaker AShe was 62.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd he works as an attorney.
Speaker AAnd so what we learned.
Speaker AWhat did we learn about Suzanne on this date?
Speaker AShe's a big football fan.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BShe's in her.
Speaker BWhat was her team?
Speaker AGeorgia Bulldogs.
Speaker AGo Dogs.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BShe's really.
Speaker BI mean, even to the point where she's like, ooh, well, he don't like the Bulldogs, so that's out.
Speaker BOr if it was somebody that was like a rival of the Bulldogs, she's like, oh, no.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BAnd I guess maybe I'm just not into sports like that.
Speaker BThat seems odd to me that that would be, like, a deal breaker for somebody.
Speaker ANo, we live in Austin.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWe know there are people who live, breathe, and die for the long.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd so we're familiar with the concept.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ANeither of us subscribe to that concept.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker BYou know, so there's probably some ut people who are like, ooh, if you.
Speaker BFrom what?
Speaker BOu.
Speaker AOh, you.
Speaker BYou owe you.
Speaker BOoh, I can't date you.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThat would be.
Speaker AIt would be a thing.
Speaker BThat'd be the equivalent.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BOr A and M.
Speaker BSo I thought it was kind of strange that that was kind of like one of her kind of deal breakers, or side eyes, I guess.
Speaker BBut the one thing that was funny about Suzanne is the dating coach gave her some advice.
Speaker AShe did.
Speaker BOf what would be kind of a good opener, you know, to kind of get somebody to talk and to kind of, you know, connect with somebody.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo she said.
Speaker BSo she's totally head over heels for Matthew McConaughey.
Speaker BSo to the point to where, like, she first meets this guy.
Speaker BShe walks in, he's there, he's like, oh, my God, you look so beautiful.
Speaker BHe brought her flowers, and they're sitting down, and they do a little couple chit chats, and then he's getting ready to obviously tell her something about.
Speaker AHe was about to go off into something.
Speaker BHe was about to go off into something.
Speaker BShe goes, I'm gonna stop you.
Speaker BLike, she was like, kanye, I'll let you finish.
Speaker AI'll let you finish.
Speaker BI'm gonna let you finish.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BAnd she was like, so I've been watching this, listening to this wonderful Matthew McConaughey podcast.
Speaker BLike, she went into the whole spiel of what the dating coach told her to do, and it was almost kind of like, oh, well, let me go ahead and get this out of the way so I don't forget that I'm supposed to do this.
Speaker AYeah, it was her.
Speaker AIt's trying to spur conversation in, like, a fun, whimsical way is kind of how I took it.
Speaker BThat was what was so funny.
Speaker BShe didn't need to spur conversation because this dude was getting ready to, like.
Speaker BLike, he was actually getting ready to say something about himself to start the conversation.
Speaker BAnd she was like, I'm let you finish, but I got to tell you something.
Speaker BAnd it was just like.
Speaker BAnd then when she finished with what she was going to say, I was just like, really?
Speaker BIs that what you're going to say?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd he was receptive.
Speaker BBut I get that she wanted to kind of like, you know, she want to be a good student.
Speaker BYou know, like, oh, let me check this out.
Speaker AAnd I think the point was, so you have something to talk about that can push the conversation forward.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat was the dating coach's advice, and that's why she was bringing.
Speaker BTelling her that if she needed something, it wasn't like, oh, you need to do this on your date.
Speaker BAnd that's how.
Speaker BI think that's how she took it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd so she was like, oh.
Speaker BCause if you remember, at the end of the dates, like, they all.
Speaker BThey talk to the dating coaches.
Speaker BAnd so the dating.
Speaker BSo she was really excited to tell the dating coach that she used that line, you know, that she opened with that.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo it was almost kind of like she's trying to be a good student, but at the same time, it's kind of like, okay, you didn't need to, like, interrupt what he was saying to say that.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BAnyway, I just thought that was kind of.
Speaker BLet me follow us.
Speaker BThe playbook of what the dating coach told me kind of thing.
Speaker ABut she was very proud of herself.
Speaker BShe was very proud of herself after that.
Speaker BShe was very proud of herself.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AShe wanted to report back.
Speaker AI follow your advice.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BShe wanted to get a gold star for that.
Speaker BShe was so she was so proud of herself.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker AAnd Frank seemed like a nice enough dude.
Speaker BYeah, he seemed nice.
Speaker BHe's sweet.
Speaker AShe was really put off by the fact that he wasn't into the Bulldogs.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat he didn't always seem to be a football fan.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI guess.
Speaker AHe mentioned that he played golf.
Speaker AAnd when she's like, oh, you're a golfer.
Speaker AHe's like, I mean, I'm all right.
Speaker AHe even seemed to, like, kind of beg off.
Speaker BWell.
Speaker AWell, she pigeonholed it.
Speaker BWell, yeah.
Speaker BBecause she said, I don't know nothing about golf.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BShe was like, I can't do golf.
Speaker BLike, it was almost kind of like.
Speaker BShe made it sound like, that's a strike.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYou play golf.
Speaker BLike, you know, the way she said it.
Speaker BAnd Also, he had two kids, but one of them was 16.
Speaker AThat was an issue for him, and.
Speaker BThat was a huge issue for her.
Speaker BShe was like.
Speaker BShe was to the point of like, I ain't trying to raise nobody's kids.
Speaker BAnd it was like, okay, he's 16.
Speaker BKid's 16.
Speaker ABy the time this possibly gets serious.
Speaker BHe'S gonna be gone.
Speaker BBut that was a big, super red.
Speaker BYou could tell.
Speaker BA super red flag for her.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AFor sure.
Speaker ASuzanne's daughter, who's, I'm gonna guess, 30ish.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AComes into to see her on the date, and the daughter's take is, oh, the chemistry is just great, and they're just terrible.
Speaker AAnd it kind of fizzled after that, apparently.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABecause by the time they get to the end of the day, Frank is down for another day.
Speaker AOh, he wants another date.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd Susanna's like.
Speaker BWell, she.
Speaker BWhen she said he.
Speaker BWhen he asked her, she goes.
Speaker BShe goes, I'm not gonna tell you if I'm gonna go on a second date with you.
Speaker BLike, she almost seemed offended, which is.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo that.
Speaker AThat's one of my main frustrations with Suzanne.
Speaker AThis whole thing about, oh, I'm not going to tell you if I want to go out with you.
Speaker AAnd the Danny folks called her on that, I think, in episode two.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAbout how you want to maintain this, like, mysterious nature.
Speaker AAnd O, I'm not going to tell you if I like you.
Speaker AShe's like, that's.
Speaker AThat's 40 years ago.
Speaker BBut also, like, at her age, she's playing out hard to get.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BOoh.
Speaker BLike, I don't know.
Speaker BLike, bitch.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BAre we doing this at this age?
Speaker BAre we playing hard to get at this age?
Speaker AThat's kind of what the dating coach was saying.
Speaker BLike, that was, you know, and I'm glad.
Speaker BLike, that kind of made me kind of look at the dating coach.
Speaker BLike, okay, she.
Speaker BShe might be here for a reason.
Speaker BLike, she might have a reason to be here kind of thing.
Speaker BBecause the dating coach was even like, you know, what is this?
Speaker BPlaying coin?
Speaker BYou know, like, ooh, I don't know.
Speaker BOr ooh, you know, playing hard to get.
Speaker BLike, she was like, we don't need to be doing that.
Speaker AYeah, she wants to be mysterious.
Speaker AThat's what I wrote.
Speaker APlaying hard to get.
Speaker AThat, I guess used to be a thing.
Speaker AI never subscribed to that.
Speaker AAre you serious?
Speaker AI wonder what Time is Thinking says, nobody said no.
Speaker BWhatever.
Speaker BNo, I don't think I ever played, like, hard to get.
Speaker BI think I just.
Speaker BI never subscribed to that.
Speaker BI just always felt like, you know, like, you need to let me know if you like me or not.
Speaker AI remember hearing about, like, the three day rule, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIf you go out, you call me right away.
Speaker AYeah, I always thought that.
Speaker BI always thought that was dumb.
Speaker BI was like, why?
Speaker BLike, that's so silly.
Speaker BI think I just subscribed to if you like me.
Speaker BLike, let me know, because I'm not gonna know unless you let me know.
Speaker AI was never mysterious.
Speaker BYeah, there's nothing mysterious about you.
Speaker AThere's not.
Speaker AI don't think so.
Speaker AThere's so much mystery here.
Speaker BOh, okay.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AI'm just one big question mark.
Speaker AOh, wow.
Speaker ASomeday you figure that out.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BMaybe next 12 years.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AThe next job here is going to be really interesting.
Speaker BI have that to look forward to.
Speaker AThat whole idea of don't call for three days.
Speaker AOr as one of our other favorite shows would suggest, you know, as a younger man, me, if I call this woman, there's a possibility of sexual, which makes the whole proposition of calling her way more interesting.
Speaker BOh, okay.
Speaker AWhich is.
Speaker BWhat is this point?
Speaker AThe point is that it's about being mysterious or not.
Speaker BOh, mysterious.
Speaker AAnd so Sam Stan from Atypical took that mindset, so.
Speaker ANo, I think that was.
Speaker AI mean, I think that's an honest version of how a lot of young dudes think.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, why am I going to wait?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIf I respond to her sooner, maybe something good.
Speaker ALaughing yeah, well, that should be the thing, right?
Speaker BMight snooze, you lose.
Speaker AIf I like her, why not tell her?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BDating coach.
Speaker BI think she even said, like, why are we playing games here?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BI felt bad for him at the end of the date because he really seemed like he was into her.
Speaker AHe did seem like he was interned.
Speaker BHe was.
Speaker AShe seemed to have a different take.
Speaker BAnd then before we move on to the next person, did you remember, like, she even, like, messengered her on Facebook.
Speaker AMessenger.
Speaker BHe tracked her down and so the daughter was like, oh, my God, look how cute he messages.
Speaker BShe's like, ooh, how gross.
Speaker BLike, she was almost, like, offended that he, like, reached out to her.
Speaker BAnd I thought, wow, good for him for, like, making it known what he wants.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut she was almost, like, offended by it.
Speaker BLike, how dare he reach out to me on messenger.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou know, like.
Speaker BAnyway, I don't know.
Speaker BI don't know what her thinking is again.
Speaker BIt might be old school thinking on her part.
Speaker AYeah, no, I thought that was kind of the best redirection we had from Logan, the dating coach, which was.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhy are you going to do that?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIf you like me, tell me you like me.
Speaker BOtherwise I'm not going to.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou want to go on a second date with me, you got to tell me.
Speaker BI don't know that unless you tell me.
Speaker ASo reflect to our first date, that Sunday night.
Speaker ADate 12, 16, 12.
Speaker AIn terms of.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI mean, I think by the end of that night, I think we had at least communicated.
Speaker AI would like to see you again.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd I think we both agree that was the best date ever.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ACheers to that.
Speaker BCheers to that.
Speaker BBest date ever.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI don't think either of us were trying to be mysterious or.
Speaker AI mean, I think I had made it pretty clear that I thought you were very attractive.
Speaker BWell, I mean, I think after that date, I think it was pretty obvious we were going to see each other again.
Speaker BAt some point, we let each other know that this was the best day.
Speaker AThis is going well.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt wasn't like we're trying to, like, guess or play cool.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo I think we.
Speaker BWhat was so cool and.
Speaker BAnd really amazing is that after that date, I think things just flowed pretty easily and naturally.
Speaker BIt wasn't like, okay, well, can I see you again?
Speaker BLike, you know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, we're just kind of like, okay, what are you doing tomorrow?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYou want to come over?
Speaker BI want to.
Speaker BLike, it was almost kind of like we had already weaved each other in our lives at that point, because it was funny because I think we had even shared a few days later that before then we both been talking or dating another person.
Speaker BNot necessarily that it was something serious, but we had gone on dates with these people and had seen them more than once.
Speaker BAnd, you know, we were occasionally kicking with them.
Speaker BAnd I think you had even said, like, you had opened up to me and said that you had been doing it, and you were like.
Speaker BAnd I just told her that, like, I didn't want to see her anymore because I, you know, actually, like, interested in somebody else.
Speaker BAnd you were like.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker BLike, you were like, in case you were wondering.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo then I shared with you that I had done the same thing, that it was somebody that I was just kind of, like, kicking away.
Speaker BI would see every now and then and basically told him, like, yep, I found somebody.
Speaker BAnd I think I really want to pursue that.
Speaker BLike, I think that's going to go somewhere.
Speaker BSo I thought it was interesting that.
Speaker BThat that part of our lives had happened at the same time.
Speaker BLike, we were both kind of like, okay, just let you know.
Speaker BOkay, just let you know.
Speaker BAnd it was like, okay, yeah.
Speaker AWell, yeah.
Speaker AAnd I think at that point now, we didn't know exactly what we had, but I think we recognized very quickly.
Speaker AThis is different.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThis is something I don't remember seeing anytime recently.
Speaker BYeah, I think it definitely.
Speaker BI think we both realized early on that this was a different connection than we've ever had with anybody ever.
Speaker BI think you were pretty upfront with me, which made me feel a little bit, like, less guarded and beautiful, you know, forthcoming with you.
Speaker BSo I.
Speaker BI think I really like that in that we didn't leave each other guessing how we felt, even to the point where, you know, after we've kind of been dating for a little while, like, you wrote me a text message one day, and you were like, okay.
Speaker BYou were like.
Speaker BYou're like, you gonna think this is silly, but I can really focus on what you're saying now.
Speaker BLike, you.
Speaker AYou were.
Speaker BYou were like.
Speaker BBefore.
Speaker BYou see, you really, like, you're.
Speaker BI was so distracted by how pretty you are.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker BAnd I think you even put in something like, I really hope you never asked me anything.
Speaker BLike, it's really important that, like, I need to respond with, like, a smart answer.
Speaker BYou're like, because I didn't hear fuck thing you said, like, the first, like, whatever months of us dating.
Speaker BLike, and I thought that was so.
Speaker BIt was funny, but it was so sweet because I had never, like, had anybody, like, say that before.
Speaker BAnd you were like, yeah, I hope you didn't ask me anything important, like, in those months, because you were like.
Speaker BBecause I heard nothing you say.
Speaker ANo, That's.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat's 100% true.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker ANo, I mean, I just like, me even Looking at you now, like, you're just so pretty, and it's like, it's so distracting.
Speaker AIt's like a work of art.
Speaker BIt's so sweet.
Speaker ANo, and then.
Speaker AAnd so this is the space I live in.
Speaker AImagine how hard this is.
Speaker ASo you have to.
Speaker AYou have to balance the whole thing of, like, oh, wow, look at.
Speaker AShe's so.
Speaker BAnd then listen to what I'm saying.
Speaker AAnd that's like.
Speaker AShe actually asked me to do something.
Speaker AShe asked me to do something that I would like to keep looking at this space.
Speaker ASo I need to try to remember what that thing was.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ANo, it was entirely true.
Speaker AAnd I wasn't trying to be endearing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ASo, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker BI just thought that was so cute.
Speaker BI was like, oh, my God, that's so cute.
Speaker AYeah, no, it's.
Speaker ACome on, fellas.
Speaker AAny.
Speaker AAny y'all with your beautiful wives.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd then it's.
Speaker AIt's a blessing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI've never had anybody say that to me.
Speaker BBut again, going back to honesty, right?
Speaker BNot trying to have your partner, like, guess and be all mysterious and, like, ooh, I can't let them know I'm into them.
Speaker BLike, I'm glad that neither one of us had ever really subscribed to that.
Speaker BSuzanne seems to live in that space, but her coach is kind of trying.
Speaker ATo break her out.
Speaker BTrying to break her out of it, which is good.
Speaker AWell, and I kind of felt bad for Frank.
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BI felt really bad for Frank.
Speaker AAnd also, blanket statement.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ASo it's one thing for these folks who are going to be on the show to have the guts to be on the show, of course.
Speaker ABut you got dudes just popping in for.
Speaker AYou gonna have a blind date on tv.
Speaker AOn tv.
Speaker AThat's ballsy.
Speaker BThat's very ballsy.
Speaker AOr stupid or bally combination.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo no, again, props to Frank.
Speaker AI thought Frank was cool.
Speaker BI think Frank will end up meeting somebody.
Speaker BLike, he just really seemed like he was a nice dude, and he seemed like.
Speaker BWhat was interesting is all of Suzanne's, like, quirkiness and craziness didn't seem to faze him.
Speaker BJust seem to faze him one bit.
Speaker BAnd he was, like, fine with it.
Speaker BLike, you never, ever had a reaction from him like, oh, my God, what?
Speaker ALike, he was just.
Speaker BEverything she said was either funny or he was like, oh, my God, that's so interesting.
Speaker BI want to hear more.
Speaker BLike, you know what the thing about Frank is that he was into her.
Speaker BLike, she would actually.
Speaker BI Think she would have a good life with Frank if she would just kind of let go of some of these crazy things in her head because he all about her.
Speaker AHe seemed low drama.
Speaker BYeah, he really did.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd he seems like he's such a calm person.
Speaker BThat's the type of person Suzanne needs.
Speaker BOh, yeah, She's a lot.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BAnd I'm not as speaking for the president of the allot committee.
Speaker BYou need somebody that's gonna like the.
Speaker ACalmer version, who appreciates your version of a lot.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASo you say you're a lot.
Speaker AI don't feel like you're a lot.
Speaker AShe's a lot.
Speaker BYeah, Suzanne's a lot.
Speaker BAnyway, Frank, I hope you find something.
Speaker ASo then we have another date.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd I think the next date we saw was Anise and George, which was.
Speaker AWe got certainly so far my favorite date.
Speaker AThat's the favorite.
Speaker BOh, of course, of course.
Speaker ABecause why?
Speaker BBecause George was.
Speaker AHe was a fool.
Speaker BHe was.
Speaker BHe was a funnel.
Speaker BGeorge was a straight up fool.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker BSo first of all, let me paint the picture of the date for you.
Speaker BAnise, my girl.
Speaker BOh, baby, she pulled out all the stop.
Speaker BShe had the little black dress on with the V cut, with the boobies out and the booty out.
Speaker BAnd it was a miniskirt.
Speaker BOh, baby, she came.
Speaker BShe didn't come to play.
Speaker BShe showed all her assets.
Speaker BOkay, she wants in.
Speaker B60 plus represents 60 plus.
Speaker BHey.
Speaker BHello.
Speaker BAnd she looked good too.
Speaker BGeorge sitting.
Speaker AI will second that emotion now.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BGeorge was a nice looking black man.
Speaker AHe was a nice looking man.
Speaker BOh, I'm sorry.
Speaker BI'm just.
Speaker BI want to let everybody know he was black.
Speaker BEvery time I say somebody nice looking black man, he's like.
Speaker BOkay, I'm sorry.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BI'm not sure.
Speaker ASo you trying to say he's good looking for a black man?
Speaker BNo, I'm just saying.
Speaker AGod, you're so racist.
Speaker BOh my God.
Speaker BI just let people know he was black, but he was a nice looking man.
Speaker AA nice looking man.
Speaker AAlso, comma black man.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BOkay, so.
Speaker BAnd she even said in her confessional when she first saw him, she was like, he is a nice looking man.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ALike he had the salt and pepper hair.
Speaker AYep, yep.
Speaker BBlack, no crack.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BSo she walks in and clearly he was.
Speaker AI'm sorry, he was a few years younger.
Speaker BJust a few years.
Speaker A59.
Speaker A60.
Speaker AI think he was 60.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BThey're.
Speaker BThey're pretty close in age, but she's a little bit older.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd she walks in and clearly he's like, oh, my God.
Speaker BLike, right by the knock on his face, which is amazing.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWe love that.
Speaker AShe looked great.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo she sits down, and then here's where everything just.
Speaker BWell, and it goes off the rails pretty quick.
Speaker AEverything was cool until he started talking.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe literally starts it off by, I guess she mentions that she's older than him.
Speaker BAnd then he goes, how old are you?
Speaker BAnd I think even you and I looked at each other, like, okay, we're a little abrasive.
Speaker BBut again, we're talking about older people, so we're thinking, okay, maybe in their mind, like, this is just normal.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd on the other hand, like, when you and I met on the dating app, I knew how old you are.
Speaker AAt least how old you represent.
Speaker AOf course.
Speaker ADating app.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker ASo I didn't have to ask because I knew we were about to send it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut for him, obviously, they don't have.
Speaker BWell, he.
Speaker BShe says her age, and then he goes, oh, wow, he beautiful.
Speaker BAnd then he goes, black.
Speaker BDon't cry.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BYeah, Right.
Speaker ALike, I get.
Speaker AAnd that's fine.
Speaker BAnd that's fine.
Speaker BThat's fine.
Speaker BThat's fine.
Speaker AAnd true.
Speaker BThat's fine.
Speaker BAsk me that.
Speaker BI think he asked her, like, how many she.
Speaker BShe proceeds to say, like, how many kids she has.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd she says, how many kids she has.
Speaker BAnd he said, well, he says, how many kids he has?
Speaker BAnd she says, how many kids she has.
Speaker AAnd he even says, one that I.
Speaker BKnow of that he says.
Speaker BHe says, I only have one that I know of, which is.
Speaker AWhich is a little out there when you really don't know somebody.
Speaker BBut I took that as a little cheeky.
Speaker ACheeky, of course.
Speaker BLike, I didn't think, like, I.
Speaker BI honestly wouldn't have been.
Speaker BI wouldn't have been bothered.
Speaker BThat's why he.
Speaker BCheeky.
Speaker ABut it's a little cheeky shirt.
Speaker BAnd then she says, like, she has three.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd then he says.
Speaker BHe says, they all have the same daddy.
Speaker BAnd literally, Rob and I were so shocked by that, we paused it and then we went, what did he say?
Speaker BWe turned to each other and we both said.
Speaker BWhen he goes, I'm going to back that up.
Speaker BSo we back it up again because we're like, no, he didn't say that.
Speaker AHe didn't really say that.
Speaker BNo, he did.
Speaker BNo, he did.
Speaker BWe got that wrong.
Speaker BSo he literally.
Speaker BAll by saying that.
Speaker BAnd clearly, you can see on her face, like, he didn't just ask me that, did he?
Speaker BOkay, so that's.
Speaker BThat's a little concerning.
Speaker AAnd so then she says something about taking offense to that question.
Speaker ALike, really, you ask people that and then he comes back, well, you know, that's some people.
Speaker AAnd you know, some people got three baby.
Speaker AThree kids by three different daddies.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AOh, but they got a good excuse.
Speaker BYep, yep.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AShe says, excuse her.
Speaker AOr explanation.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AOr.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd so that's.
Speaker AThat's out there.
Speaker BThat's out there.
Speaker ABecause of course, you know, you get to know somebody, it sounds so judgmental.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHello.
Speaker AAnd again, you know, people circumstances are people's circumstances.
Speaker AAnd, you know, it's 2024.
Speaker BWe listen and we don't judge all the freaking time.
Speaker AWe love it.
Speaker BWe listen every day and we go.
Speaker ATo sleep and we wake up and we judge some more.
Speaker BOkay, so then what was another thing that George said that was, like, controversial?
Speaker AWell, so the one my favorite, George, when he tells.
Speaker ASo this woman who, again, she is very proud that she has her associates, her bachelor's, her Master's, and her Ph.D.
Speaker Aactually, as she would say, actually got my doctor.
Speaker AYep, that's right.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd so God bless.
Speaker AAnd that is awesome.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd we agreed on that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe proceeds to tell this woman who is super proud of how educated and how.
Speaker AI think.
Speaker AAnd I think I'm.
Speaker AI think this is fair how far she has come up, because it doesn't sound like she started there.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AShe has.
Speaker AShe has ascended.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ATo this position, this status, this doctor ism.
Speaker AHe tells her, I like my women with a little ghetto in them.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd then he proceeds to tell her how she is.
Speaker AGhetto.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker AYou need ghetto inside.
Speaker AHe tells her, yep.
Speaker BYou just need a blonde wig to like, bring that ghetto all fully out of you.
Speaker BMichael's like, am I actually hearing this?
Speaker AIt's like, read the room, George.
Speaker BYou just need a blonde wig.
Speaker AThis room doesn't want a blonde wig or to be called ghetto.
Speaker BSo one of my all time favorites, georgism.
Speaker BGeorgism, we haven't touched on yet.
Speaker AI know what you're gonna say, but go for it.
Speaker BShe asked him about him dating, right?
Speaker BYou know, he says, I fuck around in Atlanta.
Speaker BHe said, I mean, I date in Atlanta.
Speaker AHe lives in Chattanooga, so.
Speaker BHe lives in Chattanooga.
Speaker BSo he said.
Speaker BHe says, when she says, do you date very often?
Speaker BHe says, I fuck around in Atlanta.
Speaker BAnd then he.
Speaker BAnd it wasn't quick.
Speaker BHe was like, I date around in Atlanta.
Speaker AWhich was not an actual correction.
Speaker AIt was a joke.
Speaker AYeah, Right.
Speaker BBut for him to say that, like, to even Say, like, I fuck around in Atlanta.
Speaker ASo I looked it up, y'all.
Speaker AChattanooga is two hours from Atlanta.
Speaker AI had no conception of that geography.
Speaker ABut, yeah.
Speaker ASo he lives two hours away.
Speaker ASo he comes into Atlanta just to.
Speaker AJust to mess around.
Speaker BI'm just like.
Speaker BSo he.
Speaker BSo he goes into Atlanta to have.
Speaker BTo basically have sex.
Speaker AHe asked her, oh, yeah, have you had any work done?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo I think that was after she revealed that she was older than him.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd then he goes, oh, well, you look great.
Speaker AAnd he's black.
Speaker BDon't crack.
Speaker BAnd then there was a little pause, and then he says, you had any work done?
Speaker BAnd again, we paused it, and we were like, did he just ask her if she had any work done?
Speaker AI think y'all would actually enjoy watching these shows with us because we have a hell of a time.
Speaker AWe really do.
Speaker AReally.
Speaker BActually, you know what George seems like?
Speaker BHe seems like that old, like, uncle, or that you.
Speaker BThat everybody used to have that if he started drinking, like, he just say anything, like, just like.
Speaker BDidn't everybody have, like, some kind of uncle that was like that.
Speaker BThat was just like, mine was Bubba.
Speaker AUncle Bubba?
Speaker BUncle Bubba was like.
Speaker BHe literally was George, like, drunk.
Speaker BAnd he would just tell you everything, whatever.
Speaker BAnd you know what?
Speaker BI digress.
Speaker BBut you know what I found out?
Speaker BMy great grandmother was Uncle Bubba.
Speaker BWas her dude.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BThey kicked it.
Speaker AOh.
Speaker AHe was always around, but he wasn't really an uncle.
Speaker BOh, but he was.
Speaker BBut he was always around, and we never knew.
Speaker BWe never knew.
Speaker BLike, we were just, you know.
Speaker BBut now it makes sense.
Speaker BAnyway, I'm sorry, I have to get off of that.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BYeah, but literally, that's George.
Speaker BHe's my Uncle Bubba.
Speaker AHuh.
Speaker BJust say anything.
Speaker BOh, girl.
Speaker AAnd I'm familiar with that concept.
Speaker AI don't think I had anybody in my life.
Speaker BYou didn't have Uncle Bubba.
Speaker BAw.
Speaker ABut also, I think it's because you missed that, because I think my parents were similar to us in this, in a sense.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWe don't really fuck with a lot of people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWe keep ourselves.
Speaker BThat's true.
Speaker AAnd my mom, which was hard for my.
Speaker AMy mom had, you know, 13 brothers and sisters.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ABut even so, I think I only really knew two of those siblings.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThey kept their circle small.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo, yeah, I don't like uncle buggers.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut I'm familiar with the concept.
Speaker AThat's a phrase we hear a lot, you know, so and so.
Speaker AWell, he just speaks his mind.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHe says his piece now we Seem to be electing those folks to office.
Speaker AThat's a different story for Japan.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnyway.
Speaker BOkay, we're moving on.
Speaker BYes, Anise.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BWait, so we just talked about her and George.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BDid we miss any George Lisms that we need to like?
Speaker AYou know, the only other one I wrote down was the waiter was like, y'all want some rolls?
Speaker AAnd George is like, no.
Speaker AOh, gosh, yes.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BTotally forget about this.
Speaker BAnd so she looks at him like.
Speaker BLike, she says, look on her face like, maybe rose would be good.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd he goes, no, he goes, I'm looking out for you.
Speaker ALooking out for you.
Speaker BLooking out for you.
Speaker BBasically, like saying, like, don't eat them.
Speaker BYou're gonna get fat.
Speaker AThat's how I took it.
Speaker BLike, literally.
Speaker BI'm just like, oh, my God, I could not believe he said that.
Speaker BOh, my God, I can't believe I forgot that.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AWhich is so.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe's like, y'all want some honey buttered Rose?
Speaker BAnd he goes, no.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd he said because she looked like, oh.
Speaker BAnd he's like, no.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ANo, I definitely took it, like, was that show.
Speaker AIt was Identity Thief, right?
Speaker AWhere they're like, you can't eat, so we only have so much money.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd so.
Speaker AAnd Melissa McCarthy is, like, ordering the ribs.
Speaker ALike, no, I told you, no ribs, you less food.
Speaker AAnd yeah, that's the same vibes I got.
Speaker BSeriously.
Speaker AOh, my God, that's so funny.
Speaker AReally open to the idea.
Speaker BHe said rolls, and he was like, no.
Speaker ASo our next date is Nate and Latricia.
Speaker BNate and Latricia.
Speaker BDescribe to our audience Latricia Latricia is a nice looking black woman.
Speaker BNice looking woman.
Speaker BShe's tall.
Speaker BShe has a very nice body.
Speaker BShe's very slim.
Speaker BI would say Latricia isn't going to turn heads with how she looks, but she's okay looking.
Speaker AThis is how I, in my mind.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARape people.
Speaker BOh, okay.
Speaker BOh, do too.
Speaker AOkay, so when it.
Speaker AWhen it all boils down, it's this.
Speaker AIt's either cute, thumb to the side.
Speaker ANo, no, no.
Speaker AThere's no side.
Speaker AYou got to pick.
Speaker AYou got to pick a up or down.
Speaker BOh, there's either up or down.
Speaker BThere's no side.
Speaker ANope.
Speaker ANo, because a lot of people would be side.
Speaker AYou got to pick up or down.
Speaker AThose are your only two options.
Speaker ALight switch on.
Speaker ALight switch off.
Speaker AAs we say in retrovolution.
Speaker BShe's not.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AThat's what I'm saying.
Speaker AThat's where I'm going.
Speaker AShe is.
Speaker AShe's the thumbs up.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABecause she is, again, not my type either, but attractive enough.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AAnd if you have to pick one or the other, she's thumbs up.
Speaker BSo here's the interesting thing.
Speaker BLatricia, when she and Nate first kind of met or whatever, and he.
Speaker BHe gave her.
Speaker BBrought her flowers, and the first thing that happened was after, like, they're, like, making small talk, but when the food came out, he wanted to bless the food.
Speaker BAnd she thought she was so, like, you could tell, like, she was like, oh, my God, I can't believe I got somebody that, like, actual bless the food with me.
Speaker BBecause she was like, oh, check, check, check the box.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BCheck, check, check the box kind of thing.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd so.
Speaker BWhich is great because a lot of times people don't align on that.
Speaker BSo to get somebody who does align with you on that, I.
Speaker BI can.
Speaker BI can imagine that.
Speaker ABe comforting wherever you are on that spectrum.
Speaker ARight, right.
Speaker BAnd I felt like what was interesting with their day is they seem to have a lot in common.
Speaker BA lot.
Speaker AMilitary.
Speaker BThey're both military.
Speaker BJust.
Speaker BThey just seem to, like, click on.
Speaker AA lot of different levels.
Speaker BBecause the whole date, she's pretty much like, oh, my God, I can't believe.
Speaker BHe would ask her something.
Speaker BShe'd be like, oh, check that box.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BKind of jokingly or whatever, but.
Speaker BAnd he seemed like he was into it, but afterwards, he was like he wasn't into it.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AAnd the weirdest part, as we were talking about, too, when we were watching it, is that in the middle of.
Speaker BOr.
Speaker AI don't know, in the middle.
Speaker AOf course, we don't know from editing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AProbably towards the end.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHe's like, hey, a weird question to ask you.
Speaker ADo you mind if we get a selfie?
Speaker AAnd she's like, huh.
Speaker AWell, that's unusual, but okay.
Speaker AAnd she.
Speaker AAnd he was saying.
Speaker ASo we can always remember when we first met.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhich sounds like.
Speaker AIt sounds like something that.
Speaker AIf I had been smart enough and.
Speaker BSappy enough, that would have been amazing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI would love to have this posted up.
Speaker AWe would have that frame Grinnell, but so, yeah, he seemed to almost be like.
Speaker ALike, yeah, this is going great.
Speaker AYeah, I'm going to take this picture.
Speaker BBut even after he took the picture, if you notice, he even says, we're going to exchange numbers and we'll have each other's phone.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABecause she said.
Speaker AShe said, send that to me as well.
Speaker AThen.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHe says, my number.
Speaker BLike, it was just like, as if, like, basically kind of perpetrating, like, oh, like we going out again?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut then, like, the minute they left.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd he's like.
Speaker BThey're feeling him getting in his car, and he's just, like, basically weighing on out of there.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThat was like.
Speaker BIt was just like a totally different person.
Speaker BAnd I was just like, oh, my God.
Speaker BAll my dates before, you make so much sense now.
Speaker BBut they're so, like.
Speaker BAll of you guys are like that.
Speaker BLike, why?
Speaker BLike, we think we're on the best day ever, and then all of a sudden, we don't hear from you again.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWhy is that?
Speaker AI want to apologize on behalf of men for being assholes because we were just hoping to get laid that night, and when it didn't happen.
Speaker BIt was fine.
Speaker AIt was fine.
Speaker ANo, really, it was fine.
Speaker ABut also, I'm going to pursue other pastors.
Speaker BThat whole scene make me really.
Speaker BI really had to check myself because I.
Speaker BGoing back to old time, I was like, this is what I'm dealing with.
Speaker BThis is men.
Speaker BThey were on the same page and everything they were clicking on.
Speaker BWhen the producers away from her were asking him, he's like, oh, she seems like she too Christian, too, you know, too into God stuff.
Speaker BI'm not really.
Speaker BHe was like, I'm a cne.
Speaker BCNE Christian.
Speaker AHe was like, Christmas, New Year, Christmas.
Speaker BNew Year's, and Easter, like, that's when I go to church, you know, kind of thing.
Speaker BAnd he was like.
Speaker BAnd sing like, she goes church all the time, and I'm not like that.
Speaker AWhich was weird because he's the one who prayed over the food.
Speaker BHe's the one who offered to pray up the food, which is so crazy.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo anyway, I didn't like that part about him.
Speaker BI'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker BLike, he lost points with me with that.
Speaker AThat whole praying thing was odd.
Speaker AIt's very initiated.
Speaker ABut then he, like.
Speaker BBut then he's like, Lindy's, like, penalizing her.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AFor real.
Speaker AAnyway, so no, we're on the.
Speaker BSuzanne and her second date, Avery and I wrote down that he was.
Speaker BHe's 59.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ASo still a couple of years younger than her.
Speaker BShe didn't like that he didn't bring her roses.
Speaker AYeah, I wrote that down, too.
Speaker AThat the quote.
Speaker AThe quote of where are my roses?
Speaker BWhere are my roses?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BShe was like.
Speaker BShe was like, he didn't bring me roses.
Speaker BI don't like that.
Speaker BLike, she was just, like, in her confessional, she was like, I don't like that.
Speaker BShe was really big on that.
Speaker BBut she liked doing the Whole hard to get thing with him.
Speaker BLike, she was still kind of in that toll.
Speaker BLike, I don't know.
Speaker BWhoa.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AKeep him guessing.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BShe's big on that.
Speaker BAnd I don't know if she feels like that's like, flirty or.
Speaker AAnd again.
Speaker ASo Suzanne, she's single because her husband died.
Speaker APart of me thinks that she doesn't really want to date.
Speaker BYeah, she did seem to like him a little bit.
Speaker BAvery.
Speaker BA little bit.
Speaker AShe definitely did.
Speaker BThan Frank.
Speaker ABut I think.
Speaker AAnd understandably, I think she's still probably twisted over her ex or her.
Speaker AHer husband.
Speaker APass.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd maybe there's guilt, maybe whatever.
Speaker ADiscomfort.
Speaker ABut I almost feel like she's throwing up impediments to make it impossible to actually achieve happiness through.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AIt's like, you know, if I.
Speaker AWell, he's not this or he's not that.
Speaker ABasically what he's not is your ex, your deceased husband.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd so part of me thinks that she really is artificial bearings.
Speaker BAnd maybe we'll get to that with her talking to the dating coach, Logan later.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut I agree with you.
Speaker BLike, that makes.
Speaker BSo I hadn't thought about it like that before, but that makes so much sense.
Speaker BLike, I feel like she's.
Speaker BIt's almost kind of like she's wanting all these boxes checked off that she did with her ex with the husband that died.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd she's like, oh, they're not this.
Speaker BAnd they are.
Speaker ARight, right.
Speaker BLike, it was like, there's no excuse.
Speaker BThey're out.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BAnd I feel like she is kind of living in that world.
Speaker BAnd maybe.
Speaker BAnd you know what?
Speaker BAnd honestly, maybe Suzanne will land to where, like, she's just like, I just like dating people and that's okay, too.
Speaker AWell, she can have a date for the dogs game, so she can have a date for dinner.
Speaker BYou know, maybe like.
Speaker BAnd who says, like, in this era of her life, she can't just, like, date and have fun?
Speaker BLike, you know, nobody's saying you gotta, like, be unless that's what you want.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BTo have a partner full time.
Speaker BBut maybe Suzanne's journey is just a date around.
Speaker BAnd maybe that's what she'll feel.
Speaker BRealize that's what she enjoys the most.
Speaker BAnd ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker AAnd there's enough white guys in Atlanta who I'm sure would like to date Suzanne.
Speaker BWhy'd you say it like that?
Speaker ABecause I think her being with a black guy is very unlike.
Speaker BOkay, moving on.
Speaker AI'm not saying she's racist.
Speaker BNo, you're right.
Speaker BI'm just saying that's probably not.
Speaker AThat would be.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker AThat'd be a trip.
Speaker BYeah, that would be a trip.
Speaker ALike, Suzanne, meet Nate.
Speaker AOh, my God, I found my person.
Speaker BI would like to watch that show.
Speaker BYeah, that's not.
Speaker BThat's not a thing.
Speaker ASo the next date that came up was actually two of the people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnise and Nate.
Speaker BAnd Nate.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo two of the people that are on the show.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo they went on a date.
Speaker BWhat was your impression of that date?
Speaker BI'm turning back on you.
Speaker BWhere's your friend?
Speaker AI'm the interviewer.
Speaker AThey.
Speaker AI mean, they don't.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI'm trying to think if they seem compatible individuals.
Speaker BThey don't seem compatible to me, and.
Speaker AI'm not sure why, but I agree.
Speaker BThey don't seem compatible.
Speaker BWhat.
Speaker BYou know what I did like about their date is, like, at the beginning of the date, when she starts talking about her education and stuff.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd that's normally, like, she said, for other.
Speaker BFor guys, it's kind of like, ooh, you know, they back off or don't know what to say.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BHe had the perfect response.
Speaker BHe was like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
Speaker BHigh five on that.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BWhich I thought was really good.
Speaker AIt was great, though, actually, the funny part about that exchange to me was she goes, I normally hold this back.
Speaker BI knew you were going to say that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd again, we have a talk about.
Speaker BThis, and we turn to each other, we're like, what?
Speaker AIt's like Kanye saying, I don't normally talk about how.
Speaker AWhat a genius I am.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker ABut again, we're getting a very slice of life.
Speaker AWho now, of course, for the show.
Speaker BOf course.
Speaker AMaybe in real life, she really doesn't.
Speaker AAs far as we've seen, it comes up about every 10 minutes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut no, he had the perfect response, which was basically celebrating that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd because she wants to be appreciated, she wants to be acknowledged.
Speaker AAnd again, PhD is a huge accomplishment.
Speaker AWho wouldn't have celebrate?
Speaker BAnother thing is he told her that he was a homebody, and she's like, oh, I'd like to go out.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd he turned it around by basically saying, well, if I was dating you, I would totally take you out.
Speaker BLike, I wouldn't have any problems going out, showing you off kind of thing.
Speaker BSo he turned it around, which I like that.
Speaker BBut even with all of that said, you could tell.
Speaker BLike, I just don't.
Speaker BSomething like, it wasn't clicking.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSomething with them wasn't clicking.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo, you know, and one thing we didn't actually visit on from the first episode was that the dating coach had told Nate to be vulnerable, to say something vulnerable on his first date.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd what he turned that into because, like, when I think of like somebody you were to tell me say something vulnerable, I'm not even sure what that is.
Speaker BOh, yeah, because you were even asking me, you were like, what would you have said?
Speaker BAnd I responded with, I think that would mean, like, I would say something like, you know what, I was so nervous for this date.
Speaker BLike, I must have changed alphas like five times.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BTo me, that's vulnerable.
Speaker BBut also like not giving away too much.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause that's the thing.
Speaker AYou don't want to be like something that's unflattering.
Speaker AWell, I used to beat my first wife.
Speaker AI mean, you don't want to be that vulnerable to be that honest.
Speaker BSo what he said, it was him like not being able to continue being in the army.
Speaker BWhen he jumped out of.
Speaker BWell, he hurt himself, he injured himself.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo no, I mean, you can see they show him kind of walking around.
Speaker AHe is borderline quote unquote disabled.
Speaker AYou know, he doesn't get around great.
Speaker ANow he's a very fit dude.
Speaker BHe works out, of course, but he's like the stuff he used to like to do, you know, like he was used to doing like, you know, jogging or hiking and all that stuff.
Speaker BHe was like, I'm not able to do that.
Speaker ARunning is out for him.
Speaker AHe hobbles around.
Speaker BTo me, that was, that was a good time for him to.
Speaker BA good way for him to be vulnerable.
Speaker ATrue.
Speaker ABut I wonder if for Anise, she never said this, but I wanted him kind of hobbling the way he does.
Speaker AAnd she's an outgoing.
Speaker AYeah, he's a good looking dude.
Speaker ALike, we agree.
Speaker ANate's a good looking dude.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut is this like, is she viewing him with kind of side eyed, like he can't really keep up.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AEven though he's six years younger than her.
Speaker BSo she's gonna view him like.
Speaker BSo before, like right before, this was after, like an awful, super awful relationship that was like super, super awful.
Speaker AI would wait like two hours to.
Speaker BTalk to me about it.
Speaker AAnd let's just suffice to say he ended up in jail.
Speaker BAnd he ended up in jail.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo, yeah, this was awful.
Speaker BSo after that relationship, I was really hard on myself because I had always prided myself in knowing people and having a Vibe from people.
Speaker BI would always know if somebody was, like, a bad person or a good person.
Speaker BLike, I just, like.
Speaker BJust something about, like, my instincts, I would always know.
Speaker BSo it messed with me after having this awful relationship, you know, that ended very badly.
Speaker BAnd so after that, I was like, I date somebody that's totally different.
Speaker BTotally.
Speaker BLike, not even, like, what I would normally date.
Speaker ANon threatening.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BSo I, you know, date this older guy.
Speaker BAnd I'd never date anybody, first of all, I never dated anybody my age or I'd never dated anybody older than me.
Speaker BThis guy was older than me, Right.
Speaker BSo it was like.
Speaker BIt was a thing with him.
Speaker BLike, it was just like, he just.
Speaker BTo me, he acted old.
Speaker BLike, he was just like, we get out of the car, we go somewhere, get out of the car.
Speaker BWe're taking forever to get out of the car, y'all.
Speaker BI would literally go inside the restaurant, get the table, sit down, and then he would eventually come, like, because I was just so tired of waiting on him.
Speaker BAnd my daughter, she's 26 now.
Speaker BMy daughter at the time was a lot younger.
Speaker BYeah, maybe.
Speaker BYeah, I guess 12, 13 or whatever.
Speaker BAnd so I'm telling her this.
Speaker BThat, like, this is what I would do with this guy.
Speaker BAnd she's like, oh, mama, so mean.
Speaker BStop it.
Speaker BDon't be so mean, mama.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd so I'm like, you.
Speaker BYou don't understand.
Speaker BSo she and I both go out to dinner with him, and I do it, and I'm like, come on.
Speaker BI was like, you're gonna be forever.
Speaker AWhatever.
Speaker BShe was, oh, my God.
Speaker BShe said, oh, my God.
Speaker BAre we really going to the restaurant without him?
Speaker BI was like, yeah, we're going.
Speaker BSo we go to the restaurant, we sit, we, y'all, when I tell y'all, we go in, ask for the table, sit down with the menus and stuff.
Speaker BAnd then he come in.
Speaker BI'm not lying.
Speaker BAnd so literally, I think my daughter thought I was exaggerating.
Speaker AYeah, we're halfway through your appetite.
Speaker BWe're literally at the table.
Speaker BAnd my daughter goes, oh, my God.
Speaker BYou really weren't lying.
Speaker BHe's not in here yet.
Speaker BAnd I said, I told you.
Speaker BThat's why I'm like, wait on him.
Speaker BNo more.
Speaker BLike, literally, he would act so old getting out of the car.
Speaker BSo that was, like, one of the things for me that.
Speaker BWhere I was like, yeah, this ain't never going nowhere.
Speaker AI'm glad my getting the car skills are acceptable for you.
Speaker ASo Anise and Nate, they did not seem to click.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker BBut it wasn't like a real obvious reason why.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYeah, not to me either.
Speaker BLike, it was just kind of like I felt like they were both being pleasant with each other.
Speaker AThey were.
Speaker ABut not you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou remember the real world.
Speaker ALike this is what happens when people stop being polite to each other and start being real.
Speaker AWelcome to the real world.
Speaker AReal world Seattle.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker ANo, it was very surface.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut you could tell there wasn't a connection.
Speaker AThere wasn't.
Speaker AAnd now she's an attractive woman.
Speaker AHe's a good looking dude.
Speaker AHe seemed attracted to her.
Speaker AAnd of course.
Speaker AAnd she's the type of woman when she says, oh, I'm 62, I mean it's very similar to you now.
Speaker AYou're much more beautiful than her.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut it's the same reaction.
Speaker AIt's not a polite.
Speaker AShe looks much younger.
Speaker AYeah, certainly can be.
Speaker AI mean, I would pin her, pinpoint her maybe for 50.
Speaker AFor sure, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd she's a good looking 50.
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker ABut it's not.
Speaker AAnd this is what I tried to tell Tanya for years.
Speaker ASo we started dating.
Speaker AWe were 44.
Speaker AI made the joke pretty quickly.
Speaker AI can't wait for you to be 50 because I can't wait to tell people you're 50.
Speaker AYou totally.
Speaker ABecause I knew we all understand those reactions when somebody says, you know, I'm 50, and they're like, oh, well, now you look great.
Speaker AYeah, you look great.
Speaker AAnd sometimes that is, you look great for 50.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ABut when Tanya, I envisioned, which I was right, 100% freaking right.
Speaker AThat when, when, at 50, when she would tell people I'm 50, it wasn't like, oh my goodness, well, look, you look great for 50.
Speaker AIt's more like, well, I'm 50 or now I'm 56.
Speaker AIt's not a normal, like, well, good for you.
Speaker AIt's like, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker AIt's like bullshit 50.
Speaker AWhat it is a violent pushback usually is.
Speaker AIt really is.
Speaker AAnd you finally actually kind of get it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd so I know you're not going to be the one to sit here like, yeah, I look great.
Speaker ASo I will echo that all day and all night.
Speaker ABecause yeah.
Speaker AWhen and if you're not familiar, look at her TikTok.
Speaker ALook at her stuff.
Speaker ANo, she looks amazing.
Speaker AAnd she doesn't look amazing for 56.
Speaker AYeah, she looks amazing.
Speaker AAnd when she says 56, you're like, fuck you.
Speaker BNo, you.
Speaker ANo, that's just an untruth.
Speaker AAnd I will not be reduced to accepting that as truth.
Speaker BAccepting that as truth.
Speaker AYeah, no, it is.
Speaker AAnd so I think the fact that niece is 62, she definitely doesn't look it.
Speaker ABut Nate also, so.
Speaker AI mean, Nate's a good looking dude.
Speaker AHe is not probably hurting for meeting attractive women.
Speaker BNo, he's not.
Speaker AI'm gonna speak as a straight man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAssessing his negatives.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AThe OCD could be an issue for some folks, but probably not.
Speaker AIt's probably not a huge deal.
Speaker ABut we don't know how deep that was.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut he definitely.
Speaker AEverything has a spot and everything is meticulous.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker ASome people will dig it.
Speaker ASome people will.
Speaker BJack is going to be issued.
Speaker AJackie's going to be issue.
Speaker AAnd I think his.
Speaker BIf you don't know Jackie is his.
Speaker BHe and Jackie have a kid together from a one night stand kind of hookup.
Speaker BBut now Jackie is like one of his closest friends.
Speaker AHe says his best friend.
Speaker BJackie's his best friend.
Speaker AYeah, she.
Speaker BI don't know how that's not gonna be a problem.
Speaker AYeah, no, for sure.
Speaker AAnd I was gonna say for some people, and I think this was an issue for Anise, even though she didn't say it.
Speaker AI'll call it his disability.
Speaker AHe does not get around.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AWe saw him walking up the stairs and he was laboring.
Speaker BI think for Anise, that comes across as old.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike in her.
Speaker BI think in her mind because she just.
Speaker BBecause she still looks great and she's still very active.
Speaker BLike I think in her mind it's going to like be an old thing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd she's not ready for that.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AAnd again, he's fit, but he definitely.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AWhen we saw him walking up the stairs, it was.
Speaker AIt was a.
Speaker AIt was a labor.
Speaker AThey just did not seem fit.
Speaker BNo, they did not.
Speaker BAnd that was clear early on.
Speaker ASo then we finally get to Pam, who is the fourth person we have met and the four of four that we have met.
Speaker BVery centrifuge.
Speaker ATell me what can we revive on Pan.
Speaker BPam's.
Speaker BPam's out there.
Speaker APam's a lot.
Speaker BShe is.
Speaker BPam is 70.
Speaker BShe's been married twice.
Speaker BBoth of her husbands died.
Speaker BShe's been single for years.
Speaker AWe have no reason to think she killed him.
Speaker BShe did not kill him.
Speaker ADid she kill him?
Speaker AShe didn't kill him.
Speaker AThey just died.
Speaker BBoth her parents, both of her exes just happened to die.
Speaker BShe didn't kill him.
Speaker BShe's been single for 15 years.
Speaker BAnd as the.
Speaker BThe dating coach said, she's living in a shrine.
Speaker AShe is.
Speaker BShe used to be married to a famous rock Star Steve Marriott from Humpty.
Speaker BAnd they're in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Speaker BSo that was a big deal.
Speaker BPam's out there.
Speaker BShe's out there now.
Speaker BHer first date was with Robert.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker BHe's 65 and he's divorced twice.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe was very excited to meet her.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker BHe was excited to meet her.
Speaker BBut if you remember, he seemed like he had been waiting on her a while.
Speaker BLike, she was really late.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike.
Speaker BAnd he was just like, now, remember, I've been here a while.
Speaker ALike, he's just like, she lived an hour outside of it.
Speaker AHe's been in the country.
Speaker ALike, country.
Speaker BI'm just saying.
Speaker BBut they had a certain time.
Speaker BThere was me.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd he.
Speaker BYou got the impression that he'd been there, he'd been waiting for a minute.
Speaker AA bit frustrated, but at the same.
Speaker BTime, he was open to like, okay, come on in.
Speaker BLike, let's get a drink.
Speaker BAnd she looked like she started with a tequila shot.
Speaker AI'm sorry.
Speaker BShe had lime.
Speaker BThere was salt on the rim and a little bit of liquor, and it looked like she had tequila.
Speaker BShe started with a tequila shot.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BSo I was like, oh, Pam.
Speaker BTrying to get this started.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd she just seemed like she came in hard, and bless his heart, Robert, he kept asking her questions about her, and then she just kept going on off the rails.
Speaker BAnd then at one point, they had been there a minute, and you.
Speaker BRobert even said to the confessional camera, like, she didn't ask me one damn thing by myself.
Speaker BLike, I've been asking her all kinds of questions.
Speaker BHe was like, she ain't asked me nothing.
Speaker AAnd he even had to go so far as to say, you don't know anything about me.
Speaker BBecause you haven't asked me anything.
Speaker BYou don't know anything about me.
Speaker BHe's just like.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BSo he was upfront about that.
Speaker AAnd then she's like, huh?
Speaker BShe's like, huh, really?
Speaker BAnd I don't think she went to talking about herself.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, I think so.
Speaker AAnd again, ended it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI wrote down in quotes, you know nothing about me.
Speaker BThe other thing about Pam is that she presented herself as being very negative.
Speaker BSo she was like, I'm pissed off at the world.
Speaker BI hate everybody, every motherfucking body.
Speaker BLike, she just, like.
Speaker BShe was almost.
Speaker BShe came in that was blazing.
Speaker AAll of the people we met.
Speaker AThat is the biggest deal breaker for me.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BComing in, like, being negative, and it get me down.
Speaker AAnd look, life is complicated.
Speaker AI don't expect somebody to be like, Let me tell you the 10 best things about my day.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThat's not real life.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker AAnd again, editing.
Speaker AWho knows?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ABut from what we saw, she was like, well, this sucks, and that sucks, and I don't like that.
Speaker AThis really bothers me.
Speaker BWell, I wrote down.
Speaker BShe told him that she's pissed off at the world.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker AAnd I don't care who you are or whether you're.
Speaker AWhether you're in this because you want to get laid when you're in this because you want to find a soulmate, that is not a great springboard to anything good.
Speaker BSo I thought for myself, like, listening to that and looking at that, I was like, as I've gotten older, I literally want to be around negativity less.
Speaker BMan.
Speaker BShe came in hot negative, and I'm just like, oh, my God.
Speaker BLike, this is a bit much.
Speaker BSo I don't.
Speaker BI don't see them being together.
Speaker BWe don't know what happens, but I don't see.
Speaker AHe was so frustrated with her by the end of that day.
Speaker AYou have to wonder if Robert was questioning what kind of show he was on, because I'm sure he didn't go through the same vetting process that the participants did.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd he had to be like, wait, this is a.
Speaker AWhat dating show?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou know, are these people all defective?
Speaker BSo I can't wait for episode three.
Speaker AYeah, no, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat was the end of episode two.
Speaker BBut you know what, though?
Speaker BI feel like Pam is gonna make good tv.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AYou know, actually, I think.
Speaker AI think Pam.
Speaker AThis is post episode two.
Speaker APam could benefit the most from Logan's dating tooth.
Speaker BOh, the dating coach.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANo, I think if he can.
Speaker AIf.
Speaker AIf they can meet somewhere, she actually could change her perspective.
Speaker AShe needs to change her perspective.
Speaker BOh, she needs to.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABecause there's no way that the Persona she came in with to have that one date.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat ain't working.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd so if she's open and Logan can connect with her, the other three folks we've met so far are not so damaged that I can't see it working.
Speaker BOh, for sure.
Speaker APam.
Speaker AIn this headspace and this.
Speaker BNo, this is going to be a challenge for Logan.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ABecause whatever Pam now isn't working.
Speaker BWait, wait.
Speaker BAnd we still have two people to meet.
Speaker AWe do.
Speaker ASo we'll see.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BYeah, we'll see.
Speaker AThank you for joining us.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ACheers.
Speaker BCheers.
Speaker ATake a sip.
Speaker ATake a sip, indeed.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AAnd we'll see you next time.