1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,080 Welcome to podcast answers, the show where we help you start and grow your podcast answering 2 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:19,760 any podcasting questions along the way. 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,760 That's right. 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,920 We are here today to help you start, grow your podcast and understand just a little bit 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,800 more about why your episode is not showing up once you publish it. 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:38,320 So you get your episode going, it's all polished up and you're ready to publish. 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,240 You do publish, you go back and check your favorite app and it's not there. 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,660 I've heard many people ask the question, "Help me, my episode is not getting published 9 00:00:48,660 --> 00:00:50,560 to a specific directory. 10 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Why didn't it get uploaded to a specific directory like Apple Podcast or Spotify or 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:03,000 etc. How long does it take to publish episodes to other programs, other platforms? So I want 12 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:09,320 to cover just a little bit of the basics today on how podcasting works. You may not know how it 13 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:16,600 works, but essentially once you publish your episode and upload it to your media host, 14 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:25,000 they create a file. It's called an RSS feed. And what it is, is it's basically a listing 15 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,400 a text listing of what your podcast is. 16 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,600 So the information like for this show, it's the title podcast answers 17 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,680 the description of what the podcast is. 18 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,000 And then it has all of the episodes. 19 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,440 So it lists one episode. 20 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,560 It may say, you know, this is the episode and it has the title of it. 21 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,840 It has the information for the description and it has the link for your media file, 22 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,480 etc., etc., etc. 23 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,440 You take that file, you take that RSS feed and you send a link to it. 24 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,520 So when you when you first start your show, 25 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,880 you log into podcasts, connect for Apple and you say, I'm submitting this new show. 26 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,400 Here's the RSS feed, etc, etc. 27 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,080 And you do that with all of the different directories and a lot of the podcasting 28 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,880 apps pull off of the Apple podcast app, Apple podcast directory or the podcast 29 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Index, Index Directory. 30 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,760 But podcasting is a pull technology, not a pull push technology. 31 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:33,840 So when you publish your episode, it doesn't say, Hey, Apple podcast, 32 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,240 here's, here's the new episode. 33 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,120 It also doesn't say, you know, it doesn't upload the file to Apple podcast. 34 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,640 Apple podcast actually just links to your episode. 35 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,880 So it doesn't get uploaded to Apple podcasts. 36 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,840 just it's just a link. 37 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,220 So sometimes because it is a pull technology, it takes time for your 38 00:02:57,220 --> 00:03:01,100 episodes to go out into your once you're in the episodes in the RSS feed. 39 00:03:01,100 --> 00:03:04,180 It may take a time for your directories to pull the latest episode. 40 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:08,700 The directories have a time that they go back and check. 41 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:11,800 So they check, let's say Apple podcast, we're just going to use Apple podcast 42 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,340 here, Apple podcast may check every hour for a new episode. 43 00:03:16,340 --> 00:03:21,380 So the Apple Podcasts directory is going to come out to your website, to your media 44 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:25,220 host and say, Hey, is there a new episode for podcast answers? 45 00:03:25,220 --> 00:03:26,060 Yes. 46 00:03:26,060 --> 00:03:26,820 No. 47 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:27,500 Okay. 48 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:29,540 It's going to come back an hour later. 49 00:03:29,540 --> 00:03:34,460 Or the time is, is not necessarily an hour, but in this example. 50 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:38,780 So in an hour later, it's going to come back and say, Hey, is there a new episode? 51 00:03:38,780 --> 00:03:41,580 You may have published that new episode, but you may have also published that 52 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:43,780 episode right after they just check. 53 00:03:44,460 --> 00:03:53,160 And so it's going to take Apple podcasts an hour to know that your podcast is having a new episode. 54 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:59,860 So because it is a pull technology, it takes time for them to come out and pull the new episode. 55 00:03:59,860 --> 00:04:05,060 Now, some podcasts apps, so if you're using other podcast apps, they may not get the 56 00:04:05,060 --> 00:04:08,260 listing off the directory, they may check directly on your RSS feed. 57 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:13,360 And so again, then in that case, the person can just go out and refresh the feed, you 58 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,160 over refresh their app and see because the app will go out and check. 59 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,200 So what can you do? 60 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Are there things that you can do to make this go a little bit faster? 61 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Yes, there are. 62 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,160 There are things that help out with this. 63 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,160 So the main thing is be consistent. 64 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Publish your episode on a specific day and a specific time and do it the same time every 65 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,760 week. 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:44,380 So for this podcast, I release on Thursdays. 67 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:48,300 And so Apple podcasts know that I release these on Thursdays and usually it's sometime 68 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:51,060 in the afternoon. 69 00:04:51,060 --> 00:04:58,460 For my other podcast, every time I record it, I, in a new episode, I release it on Tuesdays, 70 00:04:58,460 --> 00:05:03,140 on every other Tuesday, and I release it at 1am every time. 71 00:05:03,140 --> 00:05:08,720 I can schedule that because I record ahead of time and then I just wait until in my podcast 72 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:15,000 media host, I sell them Tuesday, 1am, put the new episode out. 73 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,320 And so Apple podcasts and the other directories start to learn your publishing habits. 74 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,560 So they're going to know every other Tuesday, Andy's going to publish an episode of the 75 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Dudes and Dads podcast, and it's going to be at 1am. 76 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Go check it. 77 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:36,280 So that's one way that you can make your episodes show up faster in the directories. 78 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:42,100 If you're consistent with that and you do the same thing every week. 79 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:47,180 So some of the other things that you can do is use something called WebSub. 80 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:55,660 And essentially that's a way for you as you publish, so podcast apps and directories can 81 00:05:55,660 --> 00:05:59,600 subscribe to a WebSub. 82 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,940 They can say, "Let me know every time this podcast updates." 83 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:10,220 your podcast media host may or may not support this. 84 00:06:10,220 --> 00:06:16,460 And there are some problems with this because the apps have to go back and resubscribe every 85 00:06:16,460 --> 00:06:17,460 so often. 86 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:22,340 They can't just say indefinitely, show me when this podcast updates. 87 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:28,860 It has to resubscribe and say, "Hey, I know it's a week later, but resubscribe me." 88 00:06:28,860 --> 00:06:32,380 And so that takes a lot of time to do and a lot of bandwidth. 89 00:06:32,380 --> 00:06:37,380 And so not a lot of things to support because it is problematic and it doesn't scale very 90 00:06:37,380 --> 00:06:38,500 well. 91 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:43,800 If you're a directory and you have a million and a half feeds to go back and try to subscribe 92 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:50,920 to those million and a half feeds to check to get notified of a web sub is a pain. 93 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,140 And so there's something kind of new. 94 00:06:53,140 --> 00:06:57,920 It's been new within the last couple of years and it's called pod ping. 95 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:04,160 And the cool thing about podping is it's based on Bitcoin, not Bitcoin, but it's based on 96 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,880 blockchain just like Bitcoin is. 97 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,500 So essentially it's a blockchain and anyone can publish to the actual chain. 98 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:17,000 So what some really smart people at podcasting index have done, podcast index have done, 99 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,320 is they've created this thing called podping. 100 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,880 And a lot of new, a lot of companies are starting to support this. 101 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:30,200 And essentially what it is is when you publish, you use it with their tool, it'll send what 102 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,880 it's called a ping, a pod ping. 103 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,720 And what's cool about it is it, unlike a web sub, it doesn't require the listener to 104 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,000 resubscribe. 105 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,600 All they have to do is watch the blockchain for this specific kind of ping. 106 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 And then they'll know when an episode is published. 107 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,920 There's no resubscribing. 108 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,080 It scales really well. 109 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,760 the cool thing about it is as a directory, they can even use that as an ingest point. 110 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:04,600 So they can say, "Hey, I see this podcast being published as Ping with PodPing, and I 111 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,920 don't have this podcast in my directory." 112 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,200 And then it can go out and get the RSS feed and add it into the directory. 113 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:16,280 So it's really cool, a cool way for people who are building directories to not have to 114 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:23,640 check as often because if you have to go out and use your servers to check a million feeds, 115 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,280 two million feeds every hour, that's a lot of web traffic. 116 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Even if nothing has changed, they have to go out and say, as a regular poll to say, 117 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,480 "Hey, is this updated? 118 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Is there anything new in this episode?" 119 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:44,000 That wastes a whole lot of data, internet traffic, having to do that, computer cycles 120 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 having to do that. 121 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,000 So with this pod ping, it's really cool because they don't have to go out and check. 122 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:56,100 They can just listen to the stream of pings and know if something is published and then go out and check. 123 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:59,100 So it actually saves a lot and it's actually immediate. 124 00:08:59,100 --> 00:08:59,900 It's really quick. 125 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:04,940 I can publish an episode of this podcast and within seconds of it being published, 126 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:07,400 it's out in the podcast index. 127 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,800 It's out in a lot of new podcasting apps because they're using pod ping 128 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,740 because they're listening to pod ping to know when to update. 129 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,320 So sometimes it's not just a matter of waiting though. 130 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:22,960 Sometimes there are technical issues that can happen with your feed that can cause your 131 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,160 cause your episode not to show up in the directories. 132 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Did it actually publish to your feed is the main important thing. 133 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,000 You may have created this awesome episode edited it and it sounds great. 134 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,280 You uploaded it to your media host, but you didn't hit publish. 135 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,920 It didn't actually show up in your feed. 136 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,560 And so your RSS feed. 137 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:46,320 So the best thing to do is you can open your browser, type in your feed address, and physically 138 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,900 see in there what episodes are in there. 139 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:50,900 You can see. 140 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:57,080 So for me, if I'd open it up and go to feeds.podcastmirror.com/podcastindex, you'd see all of the list of episodes 141 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,160 that we have in our feed. 142 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,200 If my latest episode is not in there, then you are not actually going to get published. 143 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Your episode is not actually going to show up to have people listen to your show. 144 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,440 The other thing is your feed may be too large. 145 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:18,160 So several megabytes is too large because it does take a while because if people are 146 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,680 ingesting this, it is too big. 147 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,880 There's a technical limitation. 148 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,400 It is just a text file, but if you have thousands and thousands of episodes in there, that can 149 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:33,320 get really large and that can cause the directories not to show your latest episode. 150 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,720 So what can you do about that? 151 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,560 You can write less show notes. 152 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:41,360 I mean, you still want to be detailed, but you don't need to make a book out of it. 153 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:49,400 You don't have to put in your whole transcript into the show notes. 154 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,560 That's going to blow out your feed. 155 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:56,000 You can also check to see if your host allows you to publish only the last number of episodes 156 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 in your feed. 157 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,920 So, let's say you do have a thousand, two thousand episodes. 158 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Your host probably is going to allow you to say only show the last 300 episodes in the 159 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,480 feed. 160 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:14,360 And this will help because that will keep the feed size down because that will, yeah, 161 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,240 it'll just keep the feed size down and not be so large because you're only showing the 162 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,400 last two episodes or last 10 episodes or whatever. 163 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:29,120 And the last thing that can happen is you forgot to put a title on your episode. 164 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,860 Most hosts aren't going to allow you to save your episode without a title and publish, 165 00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:33,860 but some do. 166 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:37,460 And if there's not a title, it's not going to show up in the directories because they 167 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:39,140 have no way to know it's not a title. 168 00:11:39,140 --> 00:11:40,140 There's not titled. 169 00:11:40,140 --> 00:11:49,260 And so you need to make sure that your episode is actually titled and there is a title to 170 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:50,260 it. 171 00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:54,420 So guys, if that's something that you're dealing with, I would love to help you out. 172 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:57,340 I'd love to help you create your show. 173 00:11:57,340 --> 00:12:04,780 You can contact me several different ways, but the most easiest way is just to go to 174 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:11,460 podcastindex, podcastindexpodcastanswers.com/contact and get a hold of me there. 175 00:12:11,460 --> 00:12:16,020 The other way to do the thing you can do is we have a Discord channel and I would love 176 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:17,020 to have you there. 177 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:23,940 It's just podcastanswers.com/discord that you can there go and see and talk to me about 178 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:25,420 all sorts of different issues. 179 00:12:25,420 --> 00:12:26,940 Guys, with that, thanks. 180 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:42,300 and have a good week. 181 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:52,300 [BLANK_AUDIO]