Welcome to Close it now, the podcast that's revolutionizing the H Vac and home improvement trades industries.
Speaker AGet ready to dive deep into the world of heating, ventilation and air conditioning.
Speaker AWe're turning up the heat on industry standards and cooling down misconceptions.
Speaker AAnd we're not just talking about fixing vents and adjusting thermostats.
Speaker AIt's about the transformative movement that's reshaping the very foundation of H Vac and home improvement.
Speaker AWe're the driving force, inspiring top performers who crave excellence not only in their professional endeavors, but also in fitness, nutrition, relationships and personal growth, proving that we can indeed have it all.
Speaker AThis is Close it now, where excellence meets excitement.
Speaker ALet's get to work now.
Speaker AYour host, Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here.
Speaker BClose It Now.
Speaker BSuper excited to get back into this recording.
Speaker BThis is 2026, January 2026.
Speaker BWelcome back.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BIf you've been following along, this is year seven of the podcast we started in 2019.
Speaker BThis is 2026, so seven years running.
Speaker BThis has been such a fun journey and I love that every single one of you are here for your drive time University.
Speaker BSo this is the wrap up episode for the sales 101 series.
Speaker BIf you've been following this series in order, there's usually a little bit of relief that starts to show up right about here.
Speaker BMost new salespeople worry about this part of the appointment more than anything else.
Speaker BHow do I talk about price without sounding salesy?
Speaker BHow do I present options without pressure?
Speaker BHow do I not mess this part up?
Speaker BHere's the truth.
Speaker BAnd not just beginners, every level, even expert level, I've seen anxiety creep in at this part of the process, this part of the appointment.
Speaker BSo here's the truth.
Speaker BPressure doesn't usually come from presenting solutions.
Speaker BPressure comes from uncertainty, especially once price enters the conversation.
Speaker BAnd when the first three steps are done well, uncertainty starts to drop really fast.
Speaker BSo this episode is about how to recommend solutions calmly, clearly and without pressure.
Speaker BAnd how to guide homeowners through the moment where emotions naturally will start to spike.
Speaker BSo that is what we are doing today day.
Speaker BBut first, before we get into that, I've got a couple of announcements, we've got a review that I want to highlight and yeah, just some, some cool stuff going on.
Speaker BIf you can see the whiteboard behind me, I just erased it.
Speaker BI'm actually really excited about 2026.
Speaker BThere's two projects I'm working on right now.
Speaker BOne is this series itself.
Speaker BThe cells 101 is going to turn into its own Course, I'm going to expand every single one of these sections and really spend a lot of time going through them so you can be able to get this for your beginners and it's great for anyone to revisit, but for your beginners to be able to go from zero to hero in a real short amount of time to get them off the ground and actually making sales, becoming an income producer quicker than anyone would ever think possible.
Speaker BSo that's this.
Speaker BThe series is going to become a course in 2026.
Speaker BAlso, I just got off of a coaching call with one of my one on one coaching clients.
Speaker BHim and I are to, we're to the place in every now and then you have those coaching clients come around that just absolutely pull the best out of you.
Speaker BIf you, if you've ever taught anybody, if you've ever been a trainer, you understand what I'm talking about.
Speaker BBut for all of you out there, the people that are the most hungry, when you're super insanely coachable, you immediately implement and you ask really great, thoughtful questions.
Speaker BIt pulls the best out of people.
Speaker BSo because that is what's happening with this particular coaching client, shout out to Ryan, you know who you are, brother.
Speaker BWhat has happened?
Speaker BAs we've gone through the coaching process and we've gotten to the handling objections and the closing trail sequence of the appointment, what I've started doing is codifying every single one of the objections and creating an actual legitimate Close it now closing trail.
Speaker BThat's going to be a roadmap for you to be able to follow.
Speaker BSo that is also what's going to be coming out in 2026.
Speaker BI don't have a solid name for it yet.
Speaker BRight now I'm just calling it the Objection Guide or the Objection Handling Guide, the Closing Guide, Closing Trail.
Speaker BEither way, we're going to figure it out.
Speaker BI'm sure an inspired name will happen along the way.
Speaker BSo those two things are coming out this year.
Speaker BSo be on the lookout.
Speaker BNo idea of expectation of timeline or dates yet, but you will hear about it a lot as it starts to develop and gets close to time to release.
Speaker BThe next thing is we are actively now booking for Door to Door Institute.
Speaker BIf your organization could use 80, 100, 120 appointments on your calendar, no matter what time of year it is.
Speaker BIf it's shoulder season, if it's winter, if it's summer, it doesn't matter.
Speaker BIf you can use an extra 100 appointments on your calendar, let's have a conversation.
Speaker BBecause this and not only that, there's there's a couple caveats here.
Speaker BOne is these are actual appointments, not just leads.
Speaker BLike you're buying leads online and you don't know what you get.
Speaker BThese are actual appointments from the, the specific neighborhood that you want to be in because we get to pick the neighborhood.
Speaker BSo those, that's where we hang out and where we set your appointments.
Speaker BAnd the other thing is when you do this type of a process, it's the lowest cost appointment that you could ever get.
Speaker BIt's right now we're floating about somewhere between a third and 30% to 50% of what an actual appointment costs.
Speaker BIf you buy it online from Google or from PPC or from anywhere.
Speaker BYou're getting your leads right now.
Speaker BThis is coming in at about half that price or less.
Speaker BSo reach out to me, Sam Closeitnow.net and we can have a conversation about getting appointments on the calendar for you, especially if you're in San Antonio because that's where some of that's San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, Houston, in the Texas triangle because I'm here.
Speaker BSo proximity is huge.
Speaker BBut anywhere in the country, anywhere in the United States, we can come to your location and put appointments on your calendar.
Speaker BSo, Sam closeitnow.net reach out and then the last two things I want to make you know that they're make sure you know they're available one on one coaching is about to disappear.
Speaker BThere's only like two slots left that are available for 20, 26 calendar for one on one coaching with me.
Speaker BSo reach out again samoseitnow.net or you can fill out the form on the website@closeitnow.net or you can go on to the Facebook group and you can send me a message there.
Speaker BFind me on Facebook and we can talk about if coaching is right for you.
Speaker BAnd the other thing is we're booking now for coming to your location for on site trainings.
Speaker BEvery single time I step foot on site, your team culture shifts.
Speaker BThe numbers explode.
Speaker BIt all happens because we bring some serious value.
Speaker BAnd it's not just training.
Speaker BWe do ride alongs.
Speaker BWe're out in the field showing your people how it's done.
Speaker BNow if you've talked around the industry, there are other trainers that do this, that try to do the ride alongs.
Speaker BOne I've heard that they go to, you know, go back to the hotel at 4 o'.
Speaker BClock.
Speaker BThis is not me, it's not my team.
Speaker BWe work until we're done.
Speaker BSo if you have appointments late, we run those late appointments.
Speaker BThe second is, and this Is the most crucial part is homeowners are glad that we're there.
Speaker BWe don't get cancels.
Speaker BWe have a really high close rate when we work together with your team in the field.
Speaker BSo we're not showing up and closing at 18% like I've heard some of the people do.
Speaker BDoes it happen in markets?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BUsually that's because there's other major problems with the company itself, but we can talk about that.
Speaker BBut more importantly, you know, your culture shifts.
Speaker BWe have insane numbers.
Speaker BYou know, you got everything from, you know, a company that I was working with in New York did 330k in two days while I was there on site with 10 people.
Speaker BI mean, just all over the map.
Speaker BSo one guy in North Carolina went from average ticket of $8,900 to 16,000 and has stayed there for a couple of years after that.
Speaker BAnother guy in Kansas City went from a 40% close rate to a 60% close rate and stayed there for six months.
Speaker BA gu in Michigan went from a 33% close rate to a 60% Close Rate.
Speaker BAnd this is not discounting to do it.
Speaker BSo the numbers continue to happen.
Speaker BThere's a plumber in Baltimore area.
Speaker BHis biggest month before we started working together was 45,000.
Speaker BAfter we started working together, of course we're still working together, it's 145,000.
Speaker BAnd he went from a solo.
Speaker BI do business coaching as well.
Speaker BSo if you want to talk about that as an owner or leader, you know, he went from himself and a helper to now he has three trucks on the road in a six month time period.
Speaker BAnd so, and then we've laid the foundation to explode into 2026 from there.
Speaker BSo if you want to know about any of that, about training your people one on one coaching, door to door institute to get appointments on your calendar, reach out to me.
Speaker BSamoseitnow.net let's read this review and then we'll get into the content for today.
Speaker BSee, this One comes from Mr. Nate Gross.
Speaker BGood to see you my friend.
Speaker BThis is five stars it says is the least I can do.
Speaker BSam is the man.
Speaker BI've been a listener of the podcast since 2022 and have been waiting to post these five stars until I had something magical to say.
Speaker BHere it is.
Speaker BWhen you're ready to be someone worth buying from, listen to Sam.
Speaker BI am.
Speaker BThank you sir.
Speaker BI appreciate that very much.
Speaker BYou are crushing it up in the north where you are and if you hear this, hear me, read your review.
Speaker BMy friend.
Speaker BYou just earned yourself a one hour coaching call.
Speaker BAnd that goes for everyone.
Speaker BIf you leave me a five star review on Google or on Apple podcasts and I read your review on an episode and you hear it and you message me, then you will get a one hour coaching session, but only if those criteria are met.
Speaker BSo I'm going to keep doing these as long as I possibly can and so we'll see how far this goes.
Speaker BBut Mr. Nate Gross, you have earned yourself a one hour coaching session with yours truly.
Speaker BSo reach out to me.
Speaker BWe'll get that going.
Speaker BAlright, so let's get into some content.
Speaker BLet's zoom out for a second.
Speaker BEpisode one was about starting with clarity and with a shared plan.
Speaker BEpisode two was about curiosity before conclusions.
Speaker BEpisode three was about showing the homeowner you truly understand.
Speaker BSo if those steps are in place, this part shouldn't feel heavy.
Speaker BWhen people feel clearer, heard and understood, they're not waiting to be sold.
Speaker BThey're waiting for guidance.
Speaker BAnd so that is your role at this step of the appointment.
Speaker BSo you're not convincing anyone.
Speaker BOne of the biggest mindset shifts for beginners is this.
Speaker BYour job is not to convince someone to buy.
Speaker BYour job is to guide them toward the decision that makes the most sense.
Speaker BConvincing creates resistance.
Speaker BGuidance creates clarity.
Speaker BI'm going to say that again.
Speaker BConvincing creates resistance.
Speaker BGuidance creates clarity.
Speaker BYour job is not to convince someone to buy.
Speaker BSo if you've ever feel like you're selling hard at the end of an appointment, that's usually a sign.
Speaker BIf it feels like a fist fight, you get throwing the gloves and you got a boxing match going on.
Speaker BThat's a sign that something earlier in your process is missing.
Speaker BNot that you need better closing lines, but you got to fix the process.
Speaker BAnd so when the foundation is solid, the recommendation starts to feel natural.
Speaker BSo what I want to talk about one of the first things that happens when we get to this phase is if you're unless you're expert level over explaining.
Speaker BSo many people over explain when pressure shows up.
Speaker BWhen we start to over explain, beginners tend to talk too much.
Speaker BExplain every detail, try to justify price.
Speaker BAnd this is almost the most important.
Speaker BFill the silence because it feels uncomfortable.
Speaker BHere's what's happening underneath that though.
Speaker BInformation overload creates uncertainty.
Speaker BUncertainty will slow decisions and that slowdown feels like rejection.
Speaker BConfidence doesn't sound like more words.
Speaker BConfidence sounds like calm.
Speaker BThe calmer you are, the calmer the homeowner becomes.
Speaker BSo here is how to set up your recommendations.
Speaker BSo I'm a massive fan of the option close and I'll talk About that in a second.
Speaker BAnd then we'll get back into this.
Speaker BSo quick, pop out on this training.
Speaker BThere's a lot of people that recommend.
Speaker BHere's the one.
Speaker BThey'll go through your discovery process and then get to the end.
Speaker BAnd here, based on everything we talked about, here's what I recommend for you today.
Speaker BAnd they make one recommendation.
Speaker BI'm here to tell you to.
Speaker BI'm advising against that.
Speaker BAnd the reason is psychologically, people need something to say no to the entire reason.
Speaker BI've said this for years, even before.
Speaker BNever split the difference came out.
Speaker BNever split the difference comes out.
Speaker BAnd Chris Voss clearly outlines the reason why people have to have something to say no to.
Speaker BThat was not an original idea of his.
Speaker BIt's been going on for forever.
Speaker BI've heard Zig Ziglar say it years ago, but he defined it the best.
Speaker BPeople need something to say no to.
Speaker BSo he, you know, talks a lot about the no questions.
Speaker BQuestions that generate a no response versus a yes response.
Speaker BIt's very important.
Speaker BSo when we start talking about an option close is.
Speaker BHere's a good example.
Speaker BSo we've got Tuesday or Thursday open.
Speaker BWhich one works best for you?
Speaker BYou're giving them an option to choose.
Speaker BIt's moving forward, but which one works best?
Speaker BThat's an example of an option close.
Speaker BIt's very different than I've got Tomorrow available for install.
Speaker BDoes that work?
Speaker BThen the only possibilities are yes or no.
Speaker BSo when you're presenting solutions, you don't want to have one thing because then what happens is the only thing they can decide is a yes or no.
Speaker BWhen you have multiple options.
Speaker BIf one doesn't work.
Speaker BSo think about your company and you're like the restaurant, right?
Speaker BSomebody comes into the restaurant that's deciding on you as the company and you're the waiter at the table or the server.
Speaker BWaiter or waitress, you're the server at the table.
Speaker BAnd off of the menu they're choosing.
Speaker BIf they don't like the steak, that's fine.
Speaker BWe've got chicken, you don't like the chicken, that's fine.
Speaker BPick the fish, you don't like the fish, that's fine.
Speaker BWe've got tofu.
Speaker BWe have an option that will work for wherever your palate lies in.
Speaker BIn a restaurant context, it's the same thing with our why I like to present with options.
Speaker BIf we only present one thing, the only thing they can say is yes or no.
Speaker BWhen we present multiple options.
Speaker BNow they have something they can say no to.
Speaker BAnd I'm not going to get into the weeds on how many options are the best number.
Speaker B3, 4, 6.
Speaker BAll of that I'm here to tell you the answer depends.
Speaker BThere's never a this is the perfect number.
Speaker BThis is the only way it works in sales.
Speaker BFor most of sales, the answer is usually it depends.
Speaker BSo but getting past that, however many options that you have and make them legitimate options, don't fabricate things just to come up with say six options because that's a ridiculous way to do business.
Speaker BHave the number of options that make sense for who you are talking to.
Speaker BSo before you ever show, so getting back into this content here, now that we've covered the option close and why it's important, before you ever show numbers, you've got to set the container for how decisions will be made.
Speaker BSo this is first of all how to set up the recommendation.
Speaker BAnd so this is where co creation in this project really starts to matter.
Speaker BSo here's the framing language that's going to keep pressure low and leadership's high.
Speaker BSo as you get into it, you know, start with okay, so I'll walk you through the options that are available and based on everything we've talked about today, I'll point you in the direction of what I think is the best fit for you and your family.
Speaker BThen we can talk through it together.
Speaker BNow there's what's being said and there's also what's not being said, which is underlying in that, in that couple sentences there.
Speaker BThis does a few important things at once.
Speaker BIt removes the yes, no trap, it establishes you as the guide, it keeps the homeowner involved and it signals that this is a shared decision, not a sales pitch.
Speaker BSo you're not handing them a menu, you're orienting them.
Speaker BIf you've ever been to a really high end restaurant that has a big menu, but you don't feel like you get into decision overload because those servers are so well trained, they guide you through a handful of questions, they guide you exactly where they want you to land in your decision for what you're ordering.
Speaker BAnd if you've had that experience, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker BIykyk.
Speaker BIf you know, you know.
Speaker BOkay, so presenting the options.
Speaker BSo here's the this is sales 101 simplicity.
Speaker BWe're keeping it simple for, for the sake of this series.
Speaker BWhen you present options, remember, more option.
Speaker BMore options don't create freedom.
Speaker BIt just does not create freedom.
Speaker BIt creates confusion.
Speaker BYour role is not to show everything.
Speaker BYour role is to show what's relevant.
Speaker BSo this Goes back to show what makes the most sense for them.
Speaker BWalk them through the options that make sense.
Speaker BThen you point calmly.
Speaker BOne, don't use your finger to point.
Speaker BUse a pen or something to point calmly and confidently toward the direction you believe is the best fit based on what they told you mattered.
Speaker BYou're not asking, which one do you want?
Speaker BYou're saying, here's how I see this based on our conversation.
Speaker BThen you pause.
Speaker BNow, there is a power to the pause.
Speaker BThis is where many people will undo the good work they've done up until this point.
Speaker BBecause the pause after presenting options, and especially after price, is not awkward.
Speaker BIt's respectful that silence gives the homeowner space to process.
Speaker BTalking through the pause is how pressure starts to sneak in.
Speaker BSo let it land, Let them think, let them respond.
Speaker BSilence is part of a confident communication.
Speaker BSo remember that you have to get comfortable in silence.
Speaker BSo the moment after price.
Speaker BSo this is the piece that most people miss.
Speaker BI'm sure you've hopefully, if you've ever heard other sales trainings, they'll say, present the price and then shut up and don't say anything else.
Speaker BAnd the person who talks next loses.
Speaker BI disagree with that.
Speaker BNow that, yes, that's a negotiation principle.
Speaker BWe'll do a whole other series on how to negotiate effectively.
Speaker BThat is not what's happening here.
Speaker BYou're just presenting.
Speaker BThis is first look.
Speaker BSo you give them time to let it land, let them think, and let them respond.
Speaker BSilence is confident communication.
Speaker BBut the moment after the price, this is the part most sales training skips.
Speaker BThe moment you present price, the homeowner's nervous system starts to react.
Speaker BEven if they trust you, even if they agree with the solution, even if they think the price is fair, their brain still says, this just became real.
Speaker BThis became a very real moment for us.
Speaker BRight now.
Speaker BIt's no longer just, hey, here's a presentation.
Speaker BI'm staring down a price, and this became real.
Speaker BSo this is the ledge moment.
Speaker BYour job here is not to push them forward off the ledge.
Speaker BYour job is not to rescue the moment with more talking.
Speaker BYour job is to steady the moment.
Speaker BBecause they came up to the ledge at the precipice, looking over this cliff.
Speaker BAnd now if you've ever walked up to the edge of a cliff, all of a sudden it feels like you're unstable.
Speaker BAnd you take two steps back and you can stand still, but you get up to the edge and all of a sudden your body starts shaking.
Speaker BThat's what's happening in your homeowner's brain.
Speaker BAnd you can literally see it sometimes in their physiology.
Speaker BThey get unsteady.
Speaker BSo it's your job to steady this moment.
Speaker BMost pressure gets created right here because the salesperson, the rep, starts to panic and then starts what, explaining more.
Speaker BThey start to try to.
Speaker BYou start to try to justify the price.
Speaker BYou start to defend the recommendation.
Speaker BWhat that's doing is actually pushing people closer to the edge of that ledge, closer to the edge of the cliff.
Speaker BWhat helps is regrounding them in meaning.
Speaker BSo what I mean by that is what we're going to do is we're going to gently bring them back to why this matters to them, what problem they said they wanted to solve, and how this direction fits their situation.
Speaker BSo you're not pushing, you're guiding them off the ledge and back onto solid ground.
Speaker BI hope this is making sense.
Speaker BIf this is making sense for you, raise your hand.
Speaker BSo how the guide shows up.
Speaker BSo let's talk about this for a sec.
Speaker BThis is where your identity truly starts to matter.
Speaker BThat's why we say you have to become someone worth buying from.
Speaker BBecause what a guide does not do is chase.
Speaker BYou don't argue, you don't try to persuade.
Speaker BThat is not the time and place for this.
Speaker BWhat a guide does is hold the space, you keep things grounded and you maintain clarity when emotions spike.
Speaker BIf you are the most calm, level person in the room, you will win the conversation.
Speaker BSo energetically, what you're saying to them is, we're okay, we're not rushing.
Speaker BLet's stay oriented on the real goal.
Speaker BThe real goal is not the price.
Speaker BIf you let it get stuck and hung up on price, that's why people trip out right there and they have to think about it and email us and we'll get back to you.
Speaker BIf you stay oriented and focus towards the problem and solution.
Speaker BAnd the price is just the bridge to get there.
Speaker BThat's what allows decisions to be made from clarity instead of fear.
Speaker BNow, do not be one of those companies that's using terminology like, oh, we've hit fourth stage four with your system, treating it like cancer.
Speaker BThat's scare tactics.
Speaker BThat's fear mongering.
Speaker BDon't do that crap.
Speaker BI know there's a big PE group that's training that it's wrong.
Speaker BIt's fear mongering.
Speaker BDon't do it.
Speaker BIt's literally called dark psychology.
Speaker BIf you try to sell on fear, that's gross.
Speaker BSo stop it.
Speaker BThat's what's wrong with our industry right now.
Speaker BSo beginning back to this, having energetically as we Say we're okay, we're not rushing, let's stay oriented.
Speaker BThat's what allows decisions to be made from clarity instead of fear.
Speaker BSo when you hear, let me think about it, this phrase is really rarely, rarely, rarely an actual objection.
Speaker BIt's not, there's no meat in it most of the time it means something feels unclear, something feels misaligned, or emotions are still high.
Speaker BSo before pushing, you have to check alignment.
Speaker BNot by defending your price, not by trying to sell harder, not by over explaining more, but by making sure the direction you pointed them still connects to what matters to them.
Speaker BWhen alignment is there, this moment becomes clarification, not confrontation.
Speaker BSo you have to bring it back to identity.
Speaker BThis is where everything comes together.
Speaker BRemember the mantra, my job is to understand the human first, the problem second, and the solution last.
Speaker BWhen you honor that order, presenting doesn't feel like selling, it feels like guidance.
Speaker BYou're not guessing, you're not pushing, you're helping someone make a clear decision.
Speaker BSo you don't need to say everything, you don't need to justify yourself, you don't need to pressure anyone.
Speaker BThe right options presented calmly for the right problem to the right person don't need pressure.
Speaker BAnd sometimes the most confident thing you can do is help someone step back from the ledge and breathe.
Speaker BSo that is the, that's the wrap.
Speaker BSo give them space, let them take a beat, let them breathe, needing to think about it.
Speaker BSo one quick pop out on when someone says I need to think about it.
Speaker BFor whatever reason, we have this so many times, we're pre programmed with this idea that I need to think about it is a set amount of time and for most people, they think that's overnight or days.
Speaker BI'm here to tell you that's wrong.
Speaker BIt's completely, it's a story you're telling yourself I need to think about it could literally be as short as seconds if you give them enough time and space.
Speaker BSo eliminate the idea that I need to think about it is a set amount of time.
Speaker BYou just have to remain calm, breathe through it, show no outward signs of your inward panic.
Speaker BBecause if you're new, this is an anxiety moment and it doesn't have to be.
Speaker BSo stay calm, guide them to the destination, let it breathe, and have a calm conversation at this point.
Speaker BAnd that is how you close deals with confidence without feeling pushy.
Speaker BSo this completes the Sales 101 foundation, everything else, pricing, strategy, objections, scripts, it all builds on this.
Speaker BSo if you can master these four steps, you're already ahead of most of the people in this industry and more importantly, you're working towards becoming someone worth buying from.
Speaker BSo until next time, folks, you go be that person.
Speaker BConstantly work on yourself.
Speaker BWhat are you doing in 2026 to improve yourself and in what area or areas to be better this year than you were last year?
Speaker BHow are you?
Speaker BWhat are you doing to become someone worth buying from in 2026?
Speaker AYou've been listening to the Close it now podcast.
Speaker AOur passion is to dive headfirst into the transformative mind movement that's reshaping the very foundation of H Vac and home improvement and at the same time covering fitness, nutrition, relationships and personal growth, proving that we can indeed have it all.
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