Better small talk. Talk to anyone, avoid awkwardness,
Speaker:generate deep conversations, and make real
Speaker:friends. Written by Patrick King. Narrated by Russell Newton.
Speaker:Most people don’t barrel into conversation headfirst.
Speaker:Rather, they gently dip a toe in and test the waters.
Speaker:If you’ve never met someone before, you naturally feel like you should first
Speaker:remain reserved so you can calibrate your interactions, read your new acquaintance,
Speaker:and determine how familiar or relaxed you can be.
Speaker:For instance, remember when you were in elementary school and you found out
Speaker:you would have a substitute teacher the next day?
Speaker:It was a scary moment for most, unless you hated your normal teacher.
Speaker:It was scary because you never knew how strict or vicious the substitute would be,
Speaker:and you would have to be on your best behavior for a few days until you figured them out.
Speaker:Who knew if this substitute was the type to whip out a ruler and smack you across your knuckles,
Speaker:or ferociously dress you down for daring to step out of line?
Speaker:The next morning, suppose the substitute teacher walks in with impeccable posture
Speaker:and addresses everyone as “mister” and “miss” even though you are eight years old.
Speaker:That’s the tone they chose to set, which is obviously not ideal for you.
Speaker:But what if the substitute teacher were to walk in with an untucked shirt
Speaker:and sandals and immediately address the class as “buddies” and “dudes”?
Speaker:I’m not saying one is superior to the other,
Speaker:but a tone is intentionally being set by each of these teachers.
Speaker:It shows you how they prefer to interact with the students, and how they want to be treated.
Speaker:In conversation and especially when small talk commences,
Speaker:we are sending the same signals, but we probably don’t realize it.
Speaker:We are all sizing others up in a similar way, and people are doing the same to you.
Speaker:They look at how you carry yourself,
Speaker:which lets them know what kind of interaction you might prefer.
Speaker:So what kind of substitute teacher do you appear to be to strangers,
Speaker:acquaintances, and even friends?
Speaker:Knowing you are making an impression on everyone
Speaker:you meet, you should be cognizant of setting the right tone with others.
Speaker:What kind of signals are you sending?
Speaker:For our purposes, we ideally want to send a signal of comfort and familiarity.
Speaker:It’s understandable that you may not feel comfortable being the first to reach out,
Speaker:but it’s too often that this causes a game of chicken where there is no movement at all.
Speaker:We keep ourselves from small talk success by talking like strangers,
Speaker:sending signals of discomfort and distance, and simply acting as if we aren’t yet friends.
Speaker:When you treat people like strangers, strangers they will remain.
Speaker:Setting the tone means making the mental leap to “we’re friends now” and treating them as such.
Speaker:Set the Tone.
Speaker:At the risk of sounding redundant, at the most basic level, this means to speak like friends
Speaker:and stop conversing with everyone like you’ve just met them at a professional networking event.
Speaker:How do friends speak, exactly?
Speaker:I’ve got a useful personal anecdote to share on how friends,
Speaker:familiar acquaintances, and those who quickly make friends speak.
Speaker:It was a couple of years ago, and you’ll never guess who the other party was.
Speaker:We had a short back and forth exchanging the normal pleasantries and how-do-you-dos,
Speaker:and then we got right to business.
Speaker:It wasn’t particularly what my conversation partner said to me; it was the approach she had.
Speaker:My conversation partner essentially had no filter, and whatever came to her mind, she asked.
Speaker:This was refreshing, as most day-to-day banter can be uniform and vanilla,
Speaker:without a clear path to something more substantive or interesting.
Speaker:Some people like to shallowly jump from topic to topic and not truly engage,
Speaker:and this was the opposite experience.
Speaker:The lack of a filter means the conversation will go places that are interesting,
Speaker:emotion-driven, and somewhat inappropriate.
Speaker:(Of course, the best topics are always somewhat inappropriate.
Speaker:Very few topics are truly inappropriate—you just have
Speaker:to speak about those topics in an appropriate manner.).
Speaker:Speaking to someone who wasn’t beating around the bush for the
Speaker:sake of remaining appropriate was refreshing.
Speaker:She wasn’t afraid of asking the deep and tough questions,
Speaker:no matter how often she had to ask, “But why?” to understand something.
Speaker:Often, our conversation went down a hole that others would have avoided.
Speaker:She had to ask a few times before I realized myself what I was saying.
Speaker:There was no judgment, and it was apparent that
Speaker:her questions were motivated by sheer, genuine curiosity.
Speaker:It made me feel comfortable being vulnerable and sharing my more private thoughts.
Speaker:In essence, we had skipped past most phases of small talk and sniffing each other out, and dove
Speaker:right into the deep end and spoke like people who had known each other for a long, long time.
Speaker:Surely this is the type of interaction correlated with general well-being and
Speaker:happiness that was discussed at the opening of this book.
Speaker:You got me—the conversation partner was
Speaker:an eight-year-old I met at an acquaintance’s barbecue.
Speaker:For most of us, we have trouble with conversation when we think about it too much.
Speaker:We analyze in our heads, attempt to plan, and unnecessarily filter what we have to say.
Speaker:What comes out may be overly formal or stilted through overthinking.
Speaker:No matter how exciting or emotionally engaging the thoughts swimming around
Speaker:our noodles may be, what makes it out of our mouths can be downright dull.
Speaker:We stick to the tried and proven safe topics.
Speaker:We filter out the excitement and intrigue because we don’t want
Speaker:to rile any feathers or because we are self-conscious ourselves.
Speaker:Children do not have this problem, and that’s the tone they set.
Speaker:As a result, we all act a certain way toward inquisitive and social children, don’t we?
Speaker:We follow their lead.
Speaker:This is always the choice you have as well.
Speaker:Just to be clear, the point is certainly not to act like a child, nor even childlike necessarily.
Speaker:It’s just to understand that we all send certain signals when we interact with others, and children
Speaker:send very unique ones that typically open us up and make interactions fun and entertaining.
Speaker:Remember not to be so literal and serious;
Speaker:a playful, relaxed attitude like the one you already have with your friends is just right.
Speaker:Be less predictable and give unexpected, unconventional answers.
Speaker:If someone asks how you the traffic was, don’t offer a merely descriptive, accurate answer.
Speaker:Make something up, or say the opposite of what you mean (sarcasm in a nutshell).
Speaker:Play with language and use colorful phrases and expressions.
Speaker:Your car is your chariot, the sun is as bright as Elton John’s sunglasses,
Speaker:and the orange is as sweet as a truck full of synthetic sugar.
Speaker:You can bring in some lightheartedness simply by exaggerating a little,
Speaker:being absurd or going over the top in a way that makes people sit up and take notice.
Speaker:At a stressful doctor’s appointment, a father may lighten the mood by looking
Speaker:at his pouting toddler with a deadpan expression and saying, “Doctor, is it too late for adoption?”
Speaker:You may find it effective to deliberately misinterpret a
Speaker:situation in a completely absurd way.
Speaker:If someone says that they love little kids, well, you can fill in the blank there.
Speaker:Pose hypothetical questions to gently break people out of the
Speaker:regular humdrum of life, or do a silly role play.
Speaker:You’re at the library and someone’s pencil rolls off the desk and toward you.
Speaker:You catch it and pretend to scold the pencil but then look sadly at the other person.
Speaker:“I’m really sorry, but I don’t think your pencil likes you anymore…”
Speaker:Sarcasm is another tool.
Speaker:An acquaintance asks you how your day at the DMV was and you smile broadly and exclaim, “Fantastic!
Speaker:Have you been?
Speaker:It’s just gorgeous this time of year stuck inside that luxury hotel.”
Speaker:Sometimes, deliberately drawing attention to the
Speaker:situation you’re both in can also create a feeling of camaraderie.
Speaker:When you “break the fourth wall” you talk about exactly what’s going on,
Speaker:perhaps having a conversation about the conversation you’re having.
Speaker:Many difficult exchanges have actually been
Speaker:revived by someone having the courage to say, “Wow.
Speaker:So this is a little awkward, huh?".
Speaker:If you for some unforeseeable reason happen to spend twenty minutes discussing the merits
Speaker:of chest hair, this would be fair game to point out as a self-referential dig.
Speaker:How do you act like friends otherwise?
Speaker:There is no pretense, there is assumed familiarity, you say what’s on your mind,
Speaker:you show your emotions, and you ask deeper questions borne out of curiosity.
Speaker:The next time you spend time with a group of friends,
Speaker:try to sit back and analyze the interaction in front of you.
Speaker:How are people relating to each other, what kind of questions is everyone asking,
Speaker:and what are the signs that you are all comfortable and familiar with each other?
Speaker:Also pay close attention to the topics being thrown around.
Speaker:You will notice very quickly that they adhere to the small talk stages from the previous chapter.
Speaker:Some facts will be shared, such as stories from people’s lives or funny events.
Speaker:Then people will engage in opinion sharing and exchange,
Speaker:and delve even more deeply into how those opinions impact emotions.
Speaker:Sometimes it is better to play it safe and be cautious with how we present ourselves.
Speaker:However, those instances do not comprise the majority of our lives.
Speaker:The biggest lesson from this section should be that we are indeed capable of setting the tone,
Speaker:and most of us do it in a way that is self-defeating—but we
Speaker:are capable of changing that if we put in a little effort.
Speaker:Make the First Move.
Speaker:We’re ready to start chatting.
Speaker:Of course, I’m talking about breaking the ice.
Speaker:For most of us, this is what we imagine when we are trying to create an initial impression.
Speaker:To be frank, it’s not that we don’t know what to say—just like with when
Speaker:we forget someone’s name, we know the most direct path to getting what we want.
Speaker:We should just ask.
Speaker:And so the easiest and most direct way of breaking the
Speaker:ice is to just say hello and introduce your name.
Speaker:But this isn’t helpful for most of us because we typically feel too uncomfortable to be so direct.
Speaker:Thus arises the need for sly tactics to accomplish what we want through indirect means.
Speaker:Our discomfort happens for a multitude of reasons,
Speaker:summed up by the feeling that we are interrupting people or otherwise inconveniencing them.
Speaker:We have trouble breaking the ice with strangers, even though it’s such a simple thing,
Speaker:because we create a “they’ll think” or “what if” feedback loop in our brains.
Speaker:What can I say to avoid being awkward?
Speaker:What if I’m interrupting them?
Speaker:Will they think I’m stupid?
Speaker:What if they are busy?
Speaker:What should I say?
Speaker:What can I say?
Speaker:For instance, if we chat up a stranger or barge
Speaker:into two people already having a conversation, we are afraid -
Speaker:•They’ll think I’m a weirdo.
Speaker:•They’ll think I’m a creep.
Speaker:•They’ll think I’m rude.
Speaker:•They’ll be annoyed.
Speaker:•What if they want to speak in private?
Speaker:•What if they hate my face already?
Speaker:It doesn’t matter that these aren’t true—we think they are true,
Speaker:so they block us from easy solutions to the problem of breaking the ice.
Speaker:In the matter of making introductions, we need to
Speaker:find tactics to undercut the judgments and assumptions we make of ourselves.
Speaker:So how can you feel okay about breaking the ice?
Speaker:By doing it indirectly.
Speaker:In other words, having some sort of excuse or justification to speak to someone—when we
Speaker:have come up with a reason, suddenly it’s easy to interrupt people or walk up to a stranger.
Speaker:For instance, suppose that you are intensely shy and nervous.
Speaker:You eschew most forms of social interaction.
Speaker:But if you were utterly lost and on the verge of exhaustion,
Speaker:would you have a problem walking up to someone and asking for directions?
Speaker:Doubtful, and not just because of necessity.
Speaker:You’d feel that you have a compelling reason to speak,
Speaker:and that would override your fear of judgment.
Speaker:That’s the meaning of indirect in this context - you have an actual reason to approach someone,
Speaker:and when we can create one for ourselves, we can convince ourselves to take action more easily.
Speaker:In other instances, you might refer to this as the
Speaker:feeling of plausible deniability—where you have a plausible reason to walk up
Speaker:and start a conversation in a way that no one can think you’re rude or weird.
Speaker:Actually, if they think you’re rude or weird, they’re the rude or weird ones.
Speaker:Therefore, I want to present three indirect methods of breaking the ice
Speaker:that help you feel safe because you aren’t necessarily walking up
Speaker:to someone just for the sake of starting a conversation.
Speaker:The biggest part of the battle is making breaking the ice feel acceptable—it’s an
Speaker:“I don’t feel confident or comfortable” issue more than an “I don’t know what to say” issue.
Speaker:Recall that asking for directions on the verge of exhaustion makes all of those worries secondary.
Speaker:The first, indirect method of breaking the
Speaker:ice is to ask people for objective information or a subjective opinion.
Speaker:These can be very legitimate and important questions that
Speaker:would necessitate speaking to a stranger.
Speaker:It doesn’t necessarily matter that the person you are asking knows the answer;
Speaker:it’s just a way to begin a dialogue.
Speaker:For that matter, it doesn’t even matter that you don’t know the answer.
Speaker:•Excuse me, do you know what time the speeches begin?
Speaker:•Do you know where the closest Starbucks is?
Speaker:•What did you think of the Chief Executive Officer’s speech?
Speaker:•Do you like the food here?
Speaker:The first two examples are inquiring about objective information, while the
Speaker:latter two are asking for a subjective opinion.
Speaker:The second, indirect method of breaking the ice is to comment
Speaker:on something in the environment, context, or specific situation.
Speaker:It can be as simple as an observation.
Speaker:Imagine you are thinking out loud and prompting people to answer.
Speaker:•Did you see that piece of art on the wall?
Speaker:What a crazy concept.
Speaker:•The lighting in here is beautiful.
Speaker:I think it’s worth more than my house.
Speaker:•This is an amazing DJ. All the rock ballads of the ’80s.
Speaker:Notice how these are all statements and not direct questions.
Speaker:You are inviting someone to comment on your statement instead of asking them to engage.
Speaker:If they don’t choose to engage, no harm no foul.
Speaker:You are not putting any pressure on them to respond,
Speaker:and you don’t necessarily need to expect an answer.
Speaker:The third and final indirect method of breaking
Speaker:the ice is to comment on a commonality you both share.
Speaker:For instance, why are you both at your friend Jack’s apartment?
Speaker:What business brings you both to this networking conference in Tallahassee?
Speaker:What stroke of misfortune brought you to the DMV this morning?
Speaker:•So who do you know here?
Speaker:•So how do you know Jack?
Speaker:•Has Jack told you about the time he went skiing with his dog?
Speaker:The idea with these commonalities is that they are instant topics of
Speaker:conversation because there will be a clear answer behind them.
Speaker:These indirect icebreakers aren’t rocket science, but their main value is to make
Speaker:you feel okay with engaging someone in conversation, which is the real problem.
Speaker:Eventually you may get to the point where you feel comfortable just walking up to
Speaker:someone and shaking their hand, but in the meantime, you can get started here.
Speaker:Find Similarity.
Speaker:Think back to the last time you met someone new at a networking event or party.
Speaker:What was the first topic out of your mouth?
Speaker:It was probably one of the following -
Speaker:•Where are you from?
Speaker:•Who do you know here?
Speaker:•How was your weekend?
Speaker:•Where did you go to school?
Speaker:•What do you do?
Speaker:•Do you live far from here?
Speaker:While these are normal small-talk questions,
Speaker:we ask them instinctively not because they are great at breaking the ice.
Speaker:In fact, as you well know, they are usually terrible for breaking the
Speaker:ice and can make people feel immediately bored.
Speaker:You may have had a negative physical reaction at reading those prompts.
Speaker:We actually ask these questions instinctively because we are searching for commonalities.
Speaker:We are searching for the “me too!” moment that can spark a deeper discussion,
Speaker:and thus improve the first impression.
Speaker:For instance, if we ask the question “Where did you go to school?” we are hoping they
Speaker:attended the same university as us or a university where we have mutual friends.
Speaker:The next natural question is a variation of “Oh wow!
Speaker:What a small world.
Speaker:Do you know James Taylor?
Speaker:He also went there around your time.”
Speaker:While you may not realize it, you are always hunting for similarities,
Speaker:and similarities are another way of setting a tone of friendship, familiarity, comfort, and openness.
Speaker:It’s the type of feeling you share with your friends,
Speaker:and the same feeling that can instantly skyrocket your rapport.
Speaker:As much as we would like to think that we are open-minded and can
Speaker:get along with people from every background and origin,
Speaker:the reality is that we usually get along best with people who we think are like us.
Speaker:In fact, we seek them out.
Speaker:This trait is why places like Little Italy, Chinatown, and Koreatown exist.
Speaker:But I’m not just talking about race, skin color, religion, or sexual orientation.
Speaker:I’m talking about people who share our values,
Speaker:look at the world the same way we do, and have the same take on things as we do.
Speaker:As the saying goes, birds of a feather flock together.
Speaker:This is a common human tendency that is rooted in how our species developed.
Speaker:Walking out on the tundra or in a forest, you would be conditioned to avoid that which
Speaker:is unfamiliar or foreign because there is a high likelihood it would be interested in killing you.
Speaker:Similarities make us relate better to other
Speaker:people because we think they’ll understand us on a deeper level.
Speaker:If we share at least one significant similarity, then all sorts of positive traits follow,
Speaker:because we see them as our contemporary, essentially an extension of ourselves.
Speaker:When you think someone is on your level,
Speaker:you want to connect with them because they will probably understand you better than most.
Speaker:Suppose you were born in a small village in South Africa.
Speaker:The population of the village ranges from 900 to 1000 people.
Speaker:You now live in London and you are attending a party at a friend’s home.
Speaker:You meet someone that also happens to be from that small village in South Africa,
Speaker:just eight years older so you never encountered each other.
Speaker:What warm feelings will you immediately have toward this other person,
Speaker:and what assumptions will you make about them?
Speaker:How interested will you be in connecting with them and spending more time together in the future?
Speaker:What inside jokes or specialized points of reference can you discuss
Speaker:that you haven’t been able to with anyone else, ever?
Speaker:Hopefully that illustration drives home
Speaker:the value of similarity and how it drives conversational connection.
Speaker:So as mentioned, we typically use small-talk questions to find similarity,
Speaker:but there are better, more effective ways to discover commonalities with people.
Speaker:For instance, we should always be searching for similarities or creating opportunities for them.
Speaker:They both take effort and initiative.
Speaker:Let’s talk about searching for similarities first.
Speaker:We can search for similarities by asking probing questions of people
Speaker:and using their answers as the basis to show connections, no matter how small.
Speaker:Ask questions to figure out what people are about, what they like, and how they think.
Speaker:Then dig deep into yourself to find small commonalities at first,
Speaker:such as favorite baseball teams or alcoholic drinks.
Speaker:Through those smaller commonalities, you’ll be able to figure out what
Speaker:makes them tick and find deeper similarities to instantly bond over.
Speaker:Just as you’d be thrilled to meet someone from that small South African town,
Speaker:you’d be ecstatic to meet someone who shared a love of the same obscure hobby as you.
Speaker:It doesn’t take months or years, and it doesn’t
Speaker:take a special circumstance like going through military boot camp together.
Speaker:It just requires you to look outside of yourself and realize that people share
Speaker:common attitudes, experiences, and emotions—you just have to find them.
Speaker:Get comfortable asking questions and digging deeper than you naturally would.
Speaker:(Is it odd for you to ask five questions in a row?
Speaker:It shouldn’t be.).
Speaker:It might even feel a little invasive at first.
Speaker:Find the shared experiences and use them.
Speaker:For each topic, you can find some part to relate to and connect on,
Speaker:instead of digging around a variety of shallow topics like a job interview.
Speaker:Don’t stop at the initial topic—if someone says they love baseball, for instance,
Speaker:you could try to understand why that is and what makes them such a fanatic
Speaker:for a game involving hitting a ball with an oversized stick.
Speaker:Suppose their love for baseball came from their father, to whom they are particularly close—well,
Speaker:you have (or had) a father at some point, also with a relationship (hopefully good).
Speaker:That’s quite a powerful similarity.
Speaker:Searching for similarities will come more easily in most cases.
Speaker:In addition to searching out what is already there,
Speaker:we can create opportunities for similarities in a few ways—first physically by mimicking
Speaker:people’s body language, voice tonality, rate of speech, and overall manner of appearance.
Speaker:This is known as mirroring, and it has also been shown to
Speaker:produce feelings of positivity when tested (Anderson, 1998).
Speaker:All you have to do is arrange yourself to resemble others in order to benefit
Speaker:from feelings of similarity, from how they are posed to how they gesture.
Speaker:You can mirror their words, their tone of voice, and their mannerisms.
Speaker:Keep in mind that mirroring is not just about reflecting the person on a wholesale basis.
Speaker:Instead, it is all about communicating to them
Speaker:that you share similar values and have the potential to connect intimately.
Speaker:You can mirror physical signals, gestures, tics, and mannerisms.
Speaker:For example, if you notice that someone uses a lot of gestures when talking, you should do the same.
Speaker:Similarly, if you notice that someone’s body language involves a lot of leaning
Speaker:and crossing of arms, you should follow their lead.
Speaker:You can mirror their verbal expressions and expressiveness—tone of voice, inflection,
Speaker:word choice, slang and vocabulary, emotional intonation, and excitement and energy.
Speaker:This has the overall effect of making people feel more heard, feel more subconsciously comfortable
Speaker:and familiar with you, and fostering feelings of closeness relatively quickly.
Speaker:The second way to create opportunities for similarities is to ensure that you share a
Speaker:healthy amount of personal information and divulge details—probably more than what you are used to.
Speaker:What did you do last month?
Speaker:Statement one - You went skiing last month.
Speaker:Statement two - You went skiing last month with your two brothers and you almost broke your foot.
Speaker:Thank goodness you have a background in dance so you
Speaker:were able to keep yourself from serious injury.
Speaker:Which of those stories is easier to relate to and find a similarity with?
Speaker:Obviously, the second version since there is literally four times as much information.
Speaker:If you are having trouble connecting with others,
Speaker:it’s likely you are expecting to find a similarity without sharing anything yourself.
Speaker:Let’s do another one.
Speaker:How does your week look?
Speaker:Statement one - This week seems pretty busy.
Speaker:Statement two - Pretty busy, my mother-in-law is coming into town so that should be “fun.".
Speaker:I think I also need to find a cobbler and an ice-cream cake for a party I’m going to.
Speaker:If sharing even this amount of detail feels uncomfortable and unnatural for you,
Speaker:it’s a sign you probably don’t give your conversation partners much to work with,
Speaker:and you are essentially dropping the conversational ball when it is hit back to you.
Speaker:You may be the cause of awkward silence more often than not, because others will expect a
Speaker:back and forth flow, but they end up doing all the work while you wonder what’s wrong.
Speaker:In other words, get used to this feeling of discomfort
Speaker:because it’s something you need to improve upon.
Speaker:Aside from searching for similarities and creating opportunities for them,
Speaker:consider that mutual dislike is a useful bonding agent.
Speaker:Have you noticed that it is sometimes impossible for the conversation to remain positive,
Speaker:and the conversation will veer into a set of complaints about something you both dislike?
Speaker:Simply put, mutual dislike creates a sense
Speaker:of excitement that can often be more powerful than mutual like.
Speaker:For instance, discovering that you both went to the same restaurant,
Speaker:were served by the same waiter, and both hated him.
Speaker:It’s easy to discount these interactions
Speaker:because people think talking about negativity is a negative thing.
Speaker:However, it’s not negative to talk about negativity because it’s an emotion like
Speaker:any other, and the more emotion you can generate in your interaction,
Speaker:the greater an impression you will make.
Speaker:What’s ultimately important is seeing eye-to-eye in some fashion,
Speaker:preferably one that is about your opinions, views, emotions, or choices/decisions.
Speaker:They can be positive or negative—the goal is just to converge on something.
Speaker:Manufacture Connection.
Speaker:Sometimes, despite all the groundwork you’ve put into setting a friendly tone, making the first
Speaker:move, and even digging out some underrated similarities, people won’t engage too much.
Speaker:Some people just aren’t very forthcoming.
Speaker:Conversing with them can be like talking to walls for no apparent reason.
Speaker:You can ask them something seemingly innocent,
Speaker:and they just dodge, demur, or give you a one-word answer.
Speaker:Whatever the case, conversation has now come to a full stop.
Speaker:Unfortunately, they have set the tone to treat you as a stranger and hold you
Speaker:at arm’s length, which is something we are making sure we don’t do ourselves.
Speaker:The reasons for this can vary, but most of them are not related to you.
Speaker:Moreover, often we cannot control this.
Speaker:But that’s okay, there are ways to move past this type of engagement (if you are
Speaker:certain that they are actually interested in engaging with you,
Speaker:versus stonewalling you in the hopes that you leave them alone).
Speaker:In a sense, this is you manufacturing a connection out of nothing at all—at least,
Speaker:whatever your conversation/small talk partner is giving you.
Speaker:This is where the practice of elicitation comes in.
Speaker:It is a type of questioning that uses a specific
Speaker:conversational style to encourage people to share and speak more.
Speaker:It was originally developed by the Federal Bureau
Speaker:of Investigation (FBI) for use during interrogations,
Speaker:but was quickly adopted by corporate spies to obtain confidential information from competitors.
Speaker:Its origins will probably give you pause,
Speaker:but all of these techniques can be used for both good and evil.
Speaker:The methods themselves are neutral and are a result of taking a look into the human psyche.
Speaker:To use elicitation, you make a statement that
Speaker:plays on the other person’s desire to respond for a variety of reasons.
Speaker:The other person will feel driven to respond, even if they had no prior interest in engaging.
Speaker:They will almost feel like they have no choice.
Speaker:A direct question will not always get an answer; thus,
Speaker:it becomes important to ask indirect questions to encourage opening up and creating engagement.
Speaker:Here is an example of how elicitation works.
Speaker:You are trying to plan a surprise party for someone, so you need to know his schedule,
Speaker:his friends’ contact information, and his food and drink preferences.
Speaker:Of course, you can’t ask him for this information directly.
Speaker:So how might you indirectly obtain this information from him?
Speaker:Ellen Naylor, in her 2016 book Win/Loss Analysis,
Speaker:wrote about a few elicitation techniques to get people talking.
Speaker:Recognition.
Speaker:People thrive when you recognize something good about them.
Speaker:Mention “I love your sweater” and you will get a story about how the wearer obtained the sweater.
Speaker:Mention “You are very thorough” and you will get a story about how the
Speaker:person went to military school and learned to be thorough at all times.
Speaker:They may have been tight-lipped before, but any chance to enhance praise is welcome.
Speaker:People have a natural desire to feel recognized and appreciated,
Speaker:so give them an opening to show off a little.
Speaker:You can also show appreciation to someone and compliment them.
Speaker:This is similar to recognition;
Speaker:people rarely turn down an opportunity to explain their accomplishments.
Speaker:Complaining.
Speaker:We’ve covered this a bit in talking about how people love mutual dislike.
Speaker:People also love to complain,
Speaker:so it is easy to get someone to open up by giving them something to commiserate with.
Speaker:You complain first, and they will jump at the opportunity.
Speaker:If they don’t join in, they might open up the other way
Speaker:by feeling compelled to defend what you are complaining about.
Speaker:Either way, you’ve opened them up.
Speaker:You might tell someone at work, “I hate these long hours without overtime pay,”
Speaker:and he will agree and go into more detail about how he needs money from not being paid enough.
Speaker:This may lead him to disclose more about his home life and
Speaker:how many kids he has and marital issues he has related to finances.
Speaker:It may also lead him to defend the long hours.
Speaker:Either way, you have more information now.
Speaker:Key to this technique is creating a safe environment for people to brag,
Speaker:complain, or show other raw emotion.
Speaker:If you complain first, you establish a judgment-free zone.
Speaker:They don’t feel like they will get in trouble with you.
Speaker:You don’t have to complain to kickstart this;
Speaker:just express your own negative emotions, vulnerabilities, or disappointments.
Speaker:Correction.
Speaker:People love to be right.
Speaker:This is truly the backbone of any Internet argument.
Speaker:So if you say something wrong, they will gladly jump at the chance to correct you.
Speaker:If you give people an opportunity to flex their ego, most will seize it happily.
Speaker:An easy way to do this is to state something you know to
Speaker:be obviously incorrect to see if they will step in and break their silence.
Speaker:See if they can resist this primal urge.
Speaker:Naïveté.
Speaker:To be clear, this does not mean to act stupid;
Speaker:it means to act like you’re on the cusp of understanding.
Speaker:Acting naïve makes people feel compelled to teach, instruct, and show off their knowledge.
Speaker:People just can’t resist enlightening you, especially if you’re 95 percent of
Speaker:the way there and all people have to do is figuratively finish your sentence.
Speaker:“I understand most of this theory, but there’s just this one thing I’m unclear on.
Speaker:It could mean so many things…” People won’t be able to stop themselves from jumping in.
Speaker:In the spirit of elicitation, here are a few indirect methods that
Speaker:I’ve discovered work quite well for me personally.
Speaker:When you ask a question you think may not be answered,
Speaker:act as if they answered it and react to that hypothetical answer.
Speaker:You - So I hear that project didn’t go so well at work?
Speaker:Bob - Yeah.
Speaker:Not great.
Speaker:You - Yeah, I heard things were going excellent minus that little snafu at the end of the quarter.
Speaker:But that’s no one’s fault.
Speaker:That part of the project is super complex.
Speaker:It’s crazy.
Speaker:I can’t believe it even got the green light.
Speaker:When you put all of this on the table, it’s going to be nearly irresistible
Speaker:for them to step in and answer, reply, correct, confirm, or deny.
Speaker:That’s the important part—you are (1) asking a question, (2) acting as if they answered
Speaker:the question, and (3) then seeing how they react to your assumption of their answer.
Speaker:Don’t wait for them to react to your question;
Speaker:just give them the opportunity to react to your subsequent answer.
Speaker:The premise here is that even if they don’t want to talk to you,
Speaker:they’ll be forced to engage and step in to intervene in some way.
Speaker:You may not get the merriest of answers, but the important thing is that you’ve gotten them
Speaker:to open their traps in the first place, and that can be the hardest part of all.
Speaker:There’s another variation on this method of getting people to engage or otherwise speak up.
Speaker:When you ask someone a question,
Speaker:assume they are going to answer a certain way and keep elaborating on that sentiment.
Speaker:Again, if you’re lucky, people will feel compelled
Speaker:to correct you and clarify what their actual answer to the question is.
Speaker:You - So how was the vacation?
Speaker:I bet it was terrible with all of those worms and alligators.
Speaker:I hate the water and humidity so much.
Speaker:Bobby - Well, actually….
Speaker:Gotcha!
Speaker:In the same vein, you can elicit people to speak and open up more by talking
Speaker:about something you know is obviously wrong and waiting for them to jump in.
Speaker:You - That relationship seemed so good because he has a nice car, right?
Speaker:That’s all you need.
Speaker:I guess when it’s a Corvette it’s enough.
Speaker:Money is life.
Speaker:Bobby - Well, actually….
Speaker:These methods capitalize on people’s instinct to set the record straight.
Speaker:Even if they don’t want to talk about something,
Speaker:they don’t want the incorrect or negative perception floating around about them.
Speaker:If you were only getting one word out of them, and you are able to eke two
Speaker:sentences out of them by using this tactic, consider it a win to keep building on.
Speaker:Remember that the tone of an exchange is something you have 100 percent ability to set.
Speaker:Many of us feel that conversations are a matter of luck—you strike it lucky by finding a mutual
Speaker:topic of interest or similarity, and those instances are necessary to create rapport.
Speaker:Of course, if you believe this to be the case, it will be the case for you.
Speaker:Takeaways -
Speaker:•What determines whether you hit it off with someone?
Speaker:It’s not circumstantial; rather,
Speaker:it’s a matter of you taking charge and setting the tone to be friendly and open.
Speaker:Most people treat others like strangers and thus won’t become friends.
Speaker:So change that script from the very beginning,
Speaker:put people at ease and let them be comfortable around you.
Speaker:•The first way to set the tone is to speak like friends - topic-wise,
Speaker:tone-wise, and even privacy-wise.
Speaker:People will go along with the tone you set as long as you aren’t outright offensive.
Speaker:A powerful aspect of this is showing emotion as friends do, instead of filtering yourself
Speaker:and putting up a wall for the literal purpose of keeping people insulated at a distance.
Speaker:And stop being so darned literal and serious.
Speaker:A conversation does not have to be about sharing facts, and some
Speaker:comments can be used solely for the purpose of seeing how the other person will react.
Speaker:•Another aspect of setting the right tone is to search
Speaker:for similarities and also allow the opportunity to create them.
Speaker:When people observe similarity,
Speaker:they instantly open up and embrace it because it is a reflection of themselves.
Speaker:There are only good assumptions and connotations, so we should actively seek them out.
Speaker:You can do this by digging more deeply into people’s
Speaker:lives and asking questions to find seemingly unrelated similarities,
Speaker:divulging more information yourself, and also mirroring them physically.
Speaker:Also, don’t discount the value of mutual dislike—it’s not
Speaker:negative to talk about negative things, per se.
Speaker:•Finally, even if you follow these steps,
Speaker:sometimes people either aren’t willing to engage or not good at opening up themselves.
Speaker:You can blast past this by using forms of elicitation, in which you put forth
Speaker:a topic or question in a way that a person will feel compelled to engage or elaborate.
Speaker:These take the form of prompting the person to reply to your recognition,
Speaker:encouraging mutual complaining,
Speaker:assisting your naiveté, and correcting your incorrect assumption or information.
Speaker:This has been Better Small Talk. Talk to anyone, avoid awkwardness, generate deep conversations,
Speaker:and make real friends.