Marvin: Hey folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly,

Marvin: and we're back with another Central PA Fishing Report with George Kost of TCO

Marvin: Fly Shop and State College. George, how are you?

George: I'm amazing as always, Marvin. How are you?

Marvin: I'm just trying to stay out of trouble, and you know, it looks like we're firmly

Marvin: getting into the almost fall fishing groove, right?

George: Yes, we are. We've got some excellent weather as far as temperatures go this week.

George: everything's in really nice shape the stream levels are all good

George: everything's a little above seasonal pens is

George: still a little on the high side for this time of year but it's definitely back

George: down into fishable shape temperatures have been

George: amazing we have not had really hot weather the nights have

George: been down in the 40s for the past few days and looks like it's going to continue

George: to do that so fall is here don't

George: know if we're going to get any hotter weather in the next couple of weeks but right now

George: temps are great levels are great watercolors great

George: um and we've had some really good fishing marvin we've had

George: um some isos are starting to pop here and there in

George: some of the streams olives have been good there's been some caddis tan caddis

George: around um heard tale of maybe a couple of octobers starting to show up here

George: and there for uh the caddis um the terrestrial game has been uh really good

George: with the greenie weenies and beetles hoppers on um the more meadow we stretches

George: Some of our local creeks are working well.

George: So we've had excellent fishing the past week. And barring a little bit of rain

George: maybe coming in tomorrow, I don't expect it to be too much. Some isolated showers.

George: Looks like the next week is shaping up really nice.

Marvin: Yeah, and I would imagine, right, the terrestrials will work well until you

Marvin: get a good hard freeze, right?

George: Yeah, yeah. We should have them through October for sure. I mean,

George: crickets, ants, beetles, those things working really well right now.

Marvin: Gotcha. And so with the little, uh, little nip in the air, you like drinking

Marvin: pumpkin spice lattes now on the way to work?

George: That's all I drink anymore is pumpkin spice lattes. I just put a splash of that

George: on top of a glass of whiskey and I'm in good shape.

Marvin: Yeah. You kick the, uh, the mocha frappuccino to the curb?

George: Um, no, sometimes I treat my dog. don't.

Marvin: There you go. Well, we got a question for you. Uh, and, uh, it's interesting too.

Marvin: It's, uh, got, uh, Brenner reached out and he wanted to get your thoughts on,

Marvin: you know, when should you fish an indicator and, you know, when should you fish

Marvin: a dry dropper rig and do you have a preferred setup?

George: Um that's a good question i um i do both um

George: i like an indicator or suspension and thing if i'm

George: fishing some slower water with deeper pools and heavier

George: fly um so heavier flies that i got to get down deep i'm definitely going to

George: use some sort of suspending indicator um an airlock or something like that um

George: because they just have more buoyancy than a dry dropper setup would um dry dropper

George: i absolutely love this time of year though when the water is slowly clear and

George: you can fish you know know,

George: a chubby or a hopper with a smaller, lighter nymph off the back, um,

George: or even an unweighted nymph, like a little sunken ant or something like that

George: in some skinny water. That is a super effective technique.

George: So I really just kind of look at water conditions and water depth to decide which one I want to do.

George: Um, deeper pools, heavier flies. I'm going to use an indicator,

George: shallow, more riffles where the fly doesn't need to get as deep or if the fish

George: are holding a little higher in the water column, I'm going to go with that dry dropper.

Marvin: Got it. And so, you know, when we fish an indicator, kind of the orthodoxy is,

Marvin: you know, you don't want any drag, right?

Marvin: But, you know, if you fish a dry dropper, you've inherently got drag on the

Marvin: nymph. So, do you generally try to fish that when the fish are more active?

George: For the most part, I really try to eliminate drag in all shapes or forms.

George: The dry dropper, I really consider, like, my dry and the dry dropper rig to

George: just be the indicator a lot of times.

George: I mean, you'll have fish come up and eat it for sure, but I treat that the same

George: way I would treat an indicator and just try to mend enough to eliminate as much

George: drag as possible in any one of those setups.

Marvin: Got it. And, you know, as we're on the other side of Labor Day,

Marvin: we're not quite to like Black Friday sales stuff, but I know that,

Marvin: you know, fall and fly shops usually means summer sales and classes, right?

George: Oh, yeah, you got it. We got a lot of great sales going on in the shop right

George: now. Now, we've got sim stuff on sale, Patagonia stuff on sale.

George: We've got some lamps and reels on sale. Everything is listed on our website, pcoflyfishing.com.

George: And we've got a ton of classes lined up for this fall here in State College

George: and all our other locations.

George: So check out the website. Look under the Education tab. We've got nymphing classes,

George: streamer classes. We've got a bunch of tying classes coming up.

George: So if you're here in the State College area and want to fine-tune some skills,

George: take a look at those classes. They might be a good fit for you.

Marvin: Yeah, there you go. And I know we already talked about your private nunchuck classes, right?

George: Who told you to tell people about that? That's on my Kung Fu Daily podcast that I do.

Marvin: Fair enough. And do you have some bug and brews on the calendar too?

George: We do. We've got one. I think we're looking at Thursday, October 3rd.

George: We're doing the Steelhead Brewing Bugs over at Axman Brewing.

George: And that'll be up running and live probably in the next week or so on the website as well.

Marvin: Well, there you go. Well, listen, I don't want to steal your thunder.

Marvin: or you want to let folks know where you are, shop hours, and all that kind of good stuff?

George: Absolutely. We're here at 2030 East College Avenue in State College, PA.

George: Shop here is open Monday through Saturday, 9 to 3 on Sundays.

George: All our other shops are open similar hours, so check us out online or stop in

George: the shop next time you're in town.

Marvin: There you go. And folks, as I always say, you owe it to yourself to get out

Marvin: there and catch a few. Tight lines, everybody. Tight lines, George.

George: Take it easy, Mark.