Hey, I'm Paige Killian, founder and CEO of everything

with style. I've built a business helping busy moms of

littles get organized in three simple steps. Like many of my

clients, I love being a mom and I also desire more. If you've

ever felt that stirring in your heart, that whisper or really

loud voice that keeps you up at night, then you are in the right

place. Because this is not a solo mission. Whether you're a

little curious or totally ready to be a mom, boss and use your

God given gifts to serve others step into your calling, turn

your passions into purpose, and still make it to the carpool

line on time, then girlfriend, it's time to pivot. I've got you

now let's get started.

We Hey, welcome back to another episode of the time to pivot

podcast. I have been so fired up for this upcoming episode for so

long. Now, if you have listened to any of the moms organization

motivation podcast episodes, previously, then you may know

one half of my next guest, Jenna Lee, rude and she is here today

with her husband, Jake. I absolutely adore these two

people, we're going to be talking about parenting

entrepreneurship ways that they have pivoted in their lives.

Both of those things included, and I am so excited to welcome

him to the show. First of all, Hello, my friends.

It's we're so happy to be here.

I'm so thrilled I'm so thrilled. I've been counting down the days

until we got to record this. And it's so funny because yesterday,

we're actually recording this quite in advance for when it's

going to air but yesterday was Mother's Day for us. And we were

both laughing about how there are so many opportunities for

people to be so kind and celebrate us with like, over the

top things for Mother's Day. And sometimes at the end of the day,

we just want to be in our sweats hanging out with our kids and

chilling out. And so that's what I love so much about the two of

you is that you can dress it to the nines and you can look

fabulous, and you can attend big important events, which we'll be

talking about a little bit. But we also really likes to keep it

super real, super casual. So I'm so thrilled that we're gonna get

the best of both worlds, I think when we talk today, so thank you

again so much for being here. Let me read a bio. That is what

some of the things that you guys have done together. Let's get

started that way. Is that okay? Perfect. Okay, amazing. So Jake

and Jenna rude our successful virtual business owners who work

from home with their two little girls in Charlotte, North

Carolina. And they're the founders of raised on plants the

app and community within. They met the first week of freshman

year at UCLA, and were married at 24 years old while working in

LA as professional performers. Soon after, they leveled up

their passion for health to their dream career by achieving

the elite position of National Marketing Director with a

multibillion dollar global health food company. In addition

to their raised on plants brand. They continue today via their

families health made simple platform, leading a global team

over 2000 influencers and teaching them to build and scale

successful virtual businesses rooted in their passions like

they have. With Jake's extensive knowledge in the tech world.

They support entrepreneurs and small businesses with technology

and marketing consulting, website and app design and more.

They have truly created a global movement surrounding the power

of plant and virtual recurring income with impact. You

absolutely have made impact you've impacted my life

personally, my family's lives as we actually take part in a lot

of that helped made simple and raised on plant stuff. And also,

I just want to do a quick shout out and say, Jenna, thank you

again, so much for writing the foreword to my book. I've got

you girlfriend.

Oh my gosh. Oh, gorgeous. That was those are my favorite

projects. Sure.

Yes. Oh, and it's flown by so fast. It's so crazy. And I love

the story that you tell of how Jake actually, like stuffed you

into a cloth if you had to go to the bathroom so bad, but you

knew you had this limited time to record it while the girls

were quiet in the other room that Jake was you know,

parenting over here. That's like, that's our lives, isn't

it?

Oh, yeah. This is an upgrade saving. We're having a date

basically right now. You know, our kids are ones that preschool

and one's downstairs with my mom's

air conditioning. block here and with blankets and pillows in a

closet very good soundproofing but not very comfortable.

Yeah, absolutely. Well listen, I won't keep you too. You long

because if this is the day day, you guys gotta get out and do

your thing. We know how important that is. We know. Yes,

we do. So obviously, I just read that big long spiel about all of

these incredible things that you guys have done. And I would love

to take it back to the beginning if we can, because that's one

thing, Jenna, I don't think that you and I ever really got to

talk about with the, the other podcasts that you were on the

mom pod, I feel like we should start from the very beginning,

when you guys met, because Jenna, I know you have always

been raised on plants, so to speak, has always been you know,

health, that has always been such an important part of your

life, starting with your parents very young age. Tell us a little

bit about meeting and how different you were and how you

came together and how that has changed over the years?

Of course, well, yes, I was predominantly plant based

growing up, my mom is very passionate about wellness and

education surrounding the power of whole food, nutrition,

really, and all aspects of of that. And so, you know, I went

off to college and I think like any, you know, any mom, you hope

that your that your children remember any, you know, anything

that you've taught them over over the course of their

childhood when they leave home. And I remember having this this

very clear moment where I was like, wow, my mom was right

about everything. Nutrition is and just looking around and

really seem like how few people had the resources and the

knowledge and the tools that they needed to have energy and

feel well and just be healthy enough to be a student or to be

an athlete or to be mom like whatever they were doing. And so

part of that was actually meeting this kid right here when

we were 18. And how many corndogs Did you see a

very, very healthy young boy with 15 corndogs a week in high

school. Do McDonald's. We didn't have Chick fil A out there. But

you know, it's all the good solid food groups,

protect his mom, she fed him great food. He just got he when

he drove he started to kind of rebel, I

could eat whatever I wanted. I played water polo. I was fit.

But I was dying on the inside health wise. I had a bunch of

health issues. I was on a bunch of meds. And I met her she said

if you're gonna date me, you're gonna change your diet. I mean,

eventually it got to that. It was not, it was you know, there

was a time when she said, Okay, there's a potential for future

offspring here. Say that, I read through the lines. A lot, like,

oh my gosh, the next generation, you're like, hold on, Jake, I

really like you, I see potential in you. I want to make sure

you're gonna be around for our future. That's

around. And the thing is, like, most people don't understand how

much food matters. And they don't they don't make that

connection to you.

I didn't know I didn't I remember my dog, I used to have

really, like cystic acne was so bad. And my doctor said, Well,

if you eat, you know, some chocolate bars, if you know what

you eat, and I just I was like, No way, man, this is just

hormones. And that I was dealt and I had no idea just how

critical that was, to my overall well being because they're all

like your skin, your hair, your nails, everything, it's a window

into your health. And that was the way that my body was showing

that there was an emergency and I just wasn't listening to it.

And

so you know, basically just shared the power of plants with

him and what I had been doing, which is a bunch of things, you

know, eating more plant based, and we teach that still to this

day, with Healthmate symbol and our new raised on plants app.

And also using other tools like dehydrated plant powders,

through the juice plus company through smoothies and gardening,

like all kinds of stuff we just kind of had his eyes are open to

this whole new world of, of a healthy lifestyle. And so that

was really my first experience of realizing the power of

sharing something that you're passionate about, and that

you're living out in your own life. And just putting yourself

out there to help another person and the impact that can make the

ripple that that can make and I know lots of you listening

probably, I don't know might be in a position where you do have

things that you love and that you're passionate about. And you

might have lost a little bit of that. Becoming a mom I know.

It's hard when there's so much going on. There's so much that

you can lose yourself in just the day to day busy and hustle

of mom or parent life. And and so, you know I always knew I was

passionate about that for my childhood and I just started to

share it first with Jake and then he started to share it with

his family and I helped a lot of my friends while we were in

school. And we did work as professional performers right

out of college at Purdue actual dancer and choreographer acting

and we were pursuing that. But at the same time, there was

this, this underlying foundation that we were living this

lifestyle, we knew we wanted to help more people do that. And we

were just exploring ways to kind of make that a part of our

career for the long term.

And to be able to work virtually was a big part of, of our main

goal, because we saw that if we can be in control of our time,

and choose when and where we want to work, we can have more

choices for the family in the future. That was really like the

long term overarching goal.

So sure, I mean, I had my you guys, I had my first job

straight out of college. And, you know, we were at UCLA, and

everyone was getting an incredible jobs out of college.

My I thought I had arrived, I was at the Soho House in LA

bougie marketing department. Um, as most of you probably have

realized, when you're an employee, it's not as shiny as

it looks sometimes from the outside. And once you're in it,

you know, it's hard and they were there. I didn't, I wasn't

doing the work that I thought I'd be doing. And I was

answering to a boss every day, and I was wearing really

annoying clothes that were uncomfortable and shoes that

hurt my feet. She looks

so good. Very attractive.

This is why you can't do No, I love it. I love when Jeff I love

when Jake jumps in because I feel like he still is the other

side.

The dark side.

We have like the angel and the devil on the shoulder like the

Jenna and Jake. On your shoulder. Oh my gosh, so good.

No, I do I do like that, Jake. Because again, that's very much

like on the outside of your leg. Hey, this girl is smokin hot,

which she still is, by the way, I feel like she's only gotten

hotter as being mom, I think he would probably agree, Jake,

you've seen her in every situation possible. And I think

she is probably just like, even more attracted to you made me

attracted to you. I meant to say attractive to you.

I will tell become when you become parents. I mean, I know

we're jumping all over the place here. Okay, when you become

parents, I mean, you see a lot together, you go through a lot

together. You know, no matter how long you've been together, I

think just that act of becoming a mom and the dad. And that. And

that really was a big pivot point for us from talking about

our, you know, our pivoting kind of moment. You know, of course,

when I was in that world where I was working in LA and finding my

way, you know, I realized the things Jake just said, I want

time freedom, I want to be able to make an impact with the work

I'm doing and feel like I'm contributing to the greater good

of the world and of the people that I love and felt like I

wasn't doing any of that I wasn't I didn't have any of that

in my life when I was first starting in the workforce. And

so knowing that I wanted to be a mom one day, knowing that I

wanted to still have a career, I'm still so grateful. And I

still truly believe that God put this on my heart, you know, very

young because of the grand plan that I just truly believe in.

But just we had the wherewithal as 22 year olds, 22 year olds,

to start building a foundation in virtual recurring income that

we could build while we were doing other things while we were

pursuing our dreams, while we were learning that employee life

wasn't as glamorous, as at what, as you as may not be. And just

kind of finding our way all that time we were building that

foundation. And now fast forward, we we have multiple

streams of income from all kinds of different virtual business

models. And maybe we can talk a little bit about that in a

second. But I'd love to Yes, at first, you know, it was truly

the opportunity through the juice plus Company, which was

our first kind of experience into entrepreneurship, we

actually were able to buy a virtual franchise a partnership

with the company. And because it was virtual, it was only $52 a

year. So it was a huge thing. And we didn't we couldn't have

done it if it was a huge investment upfront. We were

fresh out of college, you know, kids and and so we were able to

start sharing the incredible products that they have and the

education and the lifestyle that we were able to, you know, to

share it with people. And that became such a huge part of our

realization that wow, like we want to have something like this

just scaled way bigger as we continue to go through our life

so that when we become parents one day, we have more freedom to

do what we want to live where we want to live to be with our kids

when we want to be with them and to have those opportunities to

say yes to more things. Because I think that's what everyone

wants right to be able to say yes to more contribution and say

yes to more fun vacations and kids activities and just time

like you cannot get time back. So having the wherewithal to

know that we wanted to go there, but then figuring out the

vehicle along the way, I think has been our greatest adventure,

other than becoming parents.

Absolutely don't put that in there, of course, and just

learning learning all

of this as we go.

And the nine to five job can be a vehicle to get you from point

A to point B. But we always encourage people when you're not

doing that, and when the kids are down, try to put some energy

into something that can maybe get you out of that nine to five

job, maybe create some sort of extra source of income virtually

money while you're sleeping, that can a Plan B that can

possibly become a Plan A into the future, you never know what

the future will bring. And so we always like to diversify, and

just put extra hours in after the kids are down. I mean,

that's what we do now. But we started this before when we

didn't have the kids and we were able to just pour a bunch of

time into it. But I always like to encourage people that you

know, everyone has has a lizard, they'll have things that they

need to do and things they need to handle. But to really maybe

change what you do in the off hours. You know, maybe don't

watch one of those Netflix series and try to try to grow

something, try to pursue something that might creates

more income for you in the future.

Absolutely starting. So young you guys, I love that you're

using that as saying that that was like the vehicle to get to

where you wanted to go, because you did have that end vision for

what you wanted parenting to look like. And you had the gift

of meeting each other so young and talking about that. And I

know I met you guys before you had kids when you were still in

LA. And it made so much sense to me as well. And I was a working

mom. So if if you are a working mom, and you're listening to

this episode, and you're thinking, Well, I didn't meet

someone a long time ago, and we didn't know about that type of

an opportunity, whether it's because you are now thinking you

want to make this pivot out of corporate into the

entrepreneurial world or you want to scale something that you

already have. Or you feel like you've identified some of these

gifts that you do have that God's given you, and you're

trying to figure out how they fit in your life. Now, what was

so appealing to me when I met you guys at that point in my

life was that it was so simple. And I mean, even this morning,

as the kids and I are getting ready to go to school, nobody

forgets to take their supplements in the morning. Like

we definitely have our dehydrated fruits and

vegetables. And now it's so funny because my kids are both

old enough to be able to swallow the capsules. So we're finishing

off what's left of those little gummies. With that, the great

opportunity that you guys have with the what is it called the

something steady? Healthy starts perfect. Yes, yes, yes. So we

did that. And we got all those gummies for free. And that just

became simply became part of our lives. And it was the jumping

off point and point where we talk to the kids about having

healthier lifestyles and doing these little simple things along

the way. And I will tell you, my son is a corn dog lover. And so

last night dinner looks like a corndog, which we don't do all

the time, but we do the corndog sometimes, and then you a whole

other entire plate of fruits and veggies. And for me, it just

needed to be that simplicity, to bring more health into our

family just on a daily basis. Very easy to do. And I love that

that became a business for you guys, because it was something

that was important to you. It's clearly important to us as well.

It needs to fit in the way that it can fit in to our family and

this lifestyle. And that's the same in business as well. So

what would you say to the mom or even the dad or even a young

person who might be listening today? If they feel like right

now they've got something going on in their lives? They might be

okay with it, but they also might be desiring more. What do

you feel like with something easy? Because we want to keep it

simple. What do you feel like it's something easy to move the

ball forward? I really like what you're talking about of opting

out of maybe one Netflix series where you can easily go down

that rabbit hole. Listen, I was watching something last night.

It was fabulous. I stayed up too late. Okay, so you can do that.

But I was doing some of my work. And I was getting stuff prepped

for an episode that was going out today as well. So I'm like

on my computer multitasking. What do you feel like is an easy

thing that somebody could do if they say you know what I am

right now in a place in my life. Where I feel like it's okay, but

I want it to be better. Do you guys have a suggestion for just

like how do you mentally prepare yourself to start something new

that could lead to something better in the future?

Yeah. What do you think like you do anything, I mean, baby steps,

you know. And on our razor implants app, we, the whole app

is set up in baby step courses. So it's like little bytes of

information. Because I think if you're at a point in your life,

you know, that you're describing, I think you're

already pretty overwhelmed for the most part, but there's part

of you that still knows there's more that you can you can do

that you can provide or contribute or be a part of, but

that feels really scary to say yes to more things, because

everyone's busy, everyone has a lot going on. But you have to

listen to that inner voice. And I think, you know, I would make

a list. I'm a list girl.

I love a list. I do love a list,

I would say. And I would make a list of all of the things that

make you so happy, that make you just get really excited, you

know, and it might be going on a fun Italian dinner date with

your husband. So one of my favorite things might be, you

know, traveling might be more specific, like, I feel amazing

when I'm able to help out a friend or I absolutely love

volunteering in my child's preschool because it just lifts

me up and I meet new mom friends. So just like brainstorm

as many things as you can think about. And if there's not a

clear direction yet, that's okay. But I think you'll start

to see some parallels like, Oh Allah, I really love when I'm

around a lot of people and I'm making a difference like even

that general can get you started down the path of, okay, I want

to pursue something that's going to make me feel like this or

that I'm, you know, working with a lot of people Jake does really

well, not working with a lot of people. He loves his computer

and he loves like doing all the techie stuff and he

likes to shove me into the corner of the house in the dark,

just go work in the

I love to you're done Jean go off. Let me pillow you into a

closet J help people from there.

I would personally crumble if I was stuck in the dark behind a

computer. So I know that about myself and know that I have to

be out and about and interacting and connecting and events and

just talking to other women. You know about all of this, all the

things we've been sharing. So that

was one of China's biggest strengths, too is her being able

to pinpoint and help other people realize what makes them

happy. I see her do it every day, she'll just be talking with

people. And people just pour out for this girl for some reason I

don't understand. I mean, some people will be like, I haven't

even told my parents this or my husband, but I'm pregnant. Okay.

Like so many times, I've heard her tell situations that you

know that they've only been confidentially telling her

things. And she can just give good advice. I

don't know how. But I think it's because I asked the right

questions. And just listen, I think you can do that for

yourself. I mean, you can sit there and ask yourself, what do

I want the next year to look like what I want the next five

years to look like, and start to figure out the path. I mean, I

think some of you, for me, you know, our example, like, I knew

that whatever we were going to do, it was going to make a

difference. And it was going to keep us with our family as much

as possible. And those are core values to us. I mean, family

time, our faith contribution, just doing things that matter

that have a bigger impact. That's a huge driving point for

everything that we do. And so it wasn't hard when we kind of

looked at like, what is it going to take to get us to this point,

it wasn't hard to say, Oh, well, we can't watch as much TV or

we're going to, you know, not travel as much for this next

year. Because we're in we're in scaling mode, we're in building

mode, we're gonna build this and get it to a point where it does

give us more time and more things that we can say yes to.

So if you're in that position, there's tons of different ways

to make money now. But it has to be something that matters to

you. Because no matter what, no matter what it is, when or what

incredible opportunity is being presented to you, if you don't

care about it, it doesn't make a difference, you're not going to

be successful with it. And and so that is the first thing is to

get really clear on what you want to do, why it matters to

you? What's the impact that you want to make? And then start to

figure out how can I monetize this, but do it in a way that

feels really good and feels authentic to me, and who I am as

a person who we are as a family, who we want to impact to in our

lives, like who I want to work with and talk to. And we asked

ourselves all of those questions. And that's actually

how we created the app that we have now and the community

within it is we knew we wanted to serve mothers families. We

love the dads to that jump in on things but yeah, absolutely. We

know that we know that moms drive a lot of the household

just decision gins and the things that happen. And

thankfully, dads like this kid right here are so much more

involved now than they ever had been our generation is

overflowing with super dads that are so involved in the cooking

and the cleaning, supporting the kids and everything. So

because we have the accessibility of the internet

we're born into, this is the best time to be alive we can do

with it, we have instant answers to any question in the palm of

our hand. And we can create scalable systems that work for

us. I call my call the computer, my little monkey that just does

my random tasks when I needed to do it, literally, yes, being

able to have that little that little helper that does them in

the moment, the monotonous tasks during the sleep that make us

money that allow us to do all the things that we do.

Yeah, I love that my mom used to actually say you don't have to

know everything, you just have to know where to find it or who

to ask, you know, back in the day, there might be something

that you didn't know, and you would need to look it up in the

old Encyclopedia Britannica. And I love that you're saying that

low monkey of the computer is helping you do some of those

things that now are so quick, you can get those answers

quickly. And so if there is someone who's listening to this,

and thinking like I do want more, I do want to do something

else. And I love that you said make the list and then find the

parallels, because you don't have to have it all figured out

at once. If you've made the list and you're like, wow, kind of

all over the place, you might start to see those parallels.

You know, I think back on my, you know, being a theater major

days. And now I think the fact that I had all of that

background in speaking and communicating from stage, not

even necessarily having I mean, we love Jake, you're gonna note

we love that feedback from the audience, obviously, when you're

up there, but you may not always get it. So even when I couldn't

figure out what to do at first with my business when we went

into lockdown, because I couldn't physically go into

these people's homes to organize. And I decided to pivot

and start the podcast, all those theater days of even when I was

an elementary school teacher that's like being on stage.

They're the hardest audience ever. The you know, that kind of

stuff ends up coming back. So you start to see these parallels

about how could I use this actually, when I am thinking

about doing something else. And also, I love how you're talking

about service is such a huge part of that where you, you do

want to serve that community. And I think Jenna, you're so

great about receiving people's information, because you really

do hold space for people and you understand how to meet them

wherever they're at. So whether it's a young couple that's just

getting started. And they want to have some sort of piece of

this virtual business that they could go into, and they get to

start small, or maybe somebody who's already more well

established, and they're ready to hit the ground running and go

straight to the top. What do you feel like is some great advice

if maybe the partner isn't as supportive, or they don't see

their vision? Because you guys have been blessed with both

really being such team players. And I do love that you brought

the virtual piece into that as well, Jake, because there are

some things that can be quickly handled, and those resources are

a lot more available. But like, what happens if you have this

desire, and you want to do something, and you don't have a

supportive partner. And that doesn't necessarily have to be

somebody that you're married to? It could be like a parent, or it

could be like a roommate or, you know something? What do you say

to that? I mean, who wants to take that? When I know it's? I

get asked that a lot. So I thought I would ask you as well.

I mean, we see this a lot with how we support people on

changing their lifestyle and their the way they cook and the

kitchen and the way they feed their family. Because there's

always someone who is so not on board at first, and it takes

education and baby steps and a lot of grace to really

empathy for sure. have empathy for that other person. Sure.

And like validate their feelings too, because maybe they have

some hang up that you're not thinking about but just

validating where they're coming from. I love that empathy

component. That's great, Jay. A quick reminder, you can now get

my book in four different ways. Head over to Amazon and search

up I've got you girlfriend. The subtitle is why getting

organized and living this mom life is not a solo mission. You

can find it there on ereader. That's through the Kindle app,

paperback hardcover, and the audiobook. So if you're enjoying

this podcast, I have a feeling you may love the audio book.

Again. It's called I've got you girlfriend. Why getting

organized and living this mom life is not a solo mission.

Thanks so much for making it a best seller. And back to the

show.

That's huge. And I want to empower you and encourage you

that if you are in that position, you are doing this for

a reason. Like there's a reason that you're brave enough,

passionate enough to even bring it up to someone in your life

who you probably knew before they even weren't a big fan of

what you're doing that they probably weren't going to give

you a hard time. So good job for even getting to that point. And

now it's your time to, to stick with it. And you know, it was

our consistency, and our perseverance and our steadfast

obsession, sure, where we were going, like, not just a month

from now, like our 12345 year 10 year plan like, that is what got

us to the point where we could then scale even bigger. And so

looking back, you know, there were so many times that we could

have just quit because it was hard. I mean, our friends, like

still, to this day we get some of our friends from college will

be like, you know, are you guys still doing all of that? And

we're like, yeah, it's like, what did you expect? You thought

we weren't serious, you know, people, people were waiting for

us to just not do it anymore and quit or give up on our dreams or

not, you know, just go the normal route and just get a real

job, quote, unquote, they would say, and it's so funny to me

now, because so many people who have that mindset are now

pivoting. And they're the ones coming to us going, can you

please help us do what you guys are doing, because we want to

spend more time with our family, we want to be healthier, we want

to have a healthier lifestyle, mentally, physically,

spiritually, emotionally, like we want to have it all. And we

know we know, because we've seen it and we're living it that you

can't you can't have it all. If you have the perseverance, the

consistency, and then the vehicle, the vehicles, plurals

to get you there. And so whether it's a virtual franchise, like

we started out with, or affiliate income, which is a

place that we work in a lot right now, or you have a service

that you provide, and you're trying to scale that with, you

know, courses through an app like we have done as well, or

other things. And there's so many ways now that the world is

at our fingertips to be able to, to monetize your passion. And

truly make it income with impact so that everything feels aligned

with your values and with your purpose and with your future and

where you want to go. But you have to be the one to say yes,

and to hold strong when the people come into your life and

doubt and doubt you and a lot of the times I'm sad to say this,

but it's a reflection of how they feel about themselves. And

they will try to bring you down, they're going to try to bring

you down because they are so scared of saying yes to their

own dreams and following the path that you just started that

they will do everything they can to bring you down. It's like

that story. One of my good friends Lauren slick myself, or

Lauren Lahab. She always says that there's like lobsters. I

think it's hard, right? You want to you want to Yeah,

yeah, they have, you can put one last year in a bucket, and it

will have the opportunity to escape. But if you put two into

the bucket, you don't have to keep an eye on it. Because one

will keep the other one inside because they'll keep clawing at

each other trade. One wants to get out before the other so you

never have to worry that they hold each other down. So being

able to understand that have the empathy to realize, okay, you're

holding me back right now, I understand you just haven't come

to the same mindset that I am right here. I'm gonna I'm gonna

lead the way here. And, and a lot of the times it is the women

leading the way. And then once once you know that first

paycheck of like $1,000, or whatever they're doing reaches

some sort of like, you know, noticeable noticeable income

that makes the other person kind of take pause and go, whoa. And

then their business becomes our business. You know, yeah, oh,

maybe there's something to this, Aaron,

when they realize like, wow, like, this is something I could

see us doing together, or I'm at least at the very least going to

support you and cheer you on. Or you might have people that never

do that. And that's okay, too. You know, you just keep doing

you and keep following your dreams and baby steps will get

you there.

I love that I have some of the best advice by the way that is a

great visual, because sometimes it is actually better to be

brave and be bold and go it alone. And then people start to

see Wow, her passion or his passion is really driving them

and they're making things happen and maybe I didn't get it at

first. But it's so good to see that that's such an incredible

example of visually seeing how somebody could bring you down

even if that's not their intention. Sometimes you can

find yourself dimming your light because you don't want to step

on some Someone else's toes. Or maybe you're a big dreamer. And

they are so based in reality that they just could never

understand that. I really feel like I'm such a 5050 split, I

always say of a big dreamer, and then a total realist, I have to

merge those worlds. But I got some great advice from Jessica

Killingly, when I was writing my book so many years ago, because

when I talked to her, I was saying, you know, I feel like I

need to just be I need to, I need to have Jake pillow me into

a closet for two months, and just focus and like, crank out

this book. And she said, Paige, you are a parent, we both know,

that's never gonna happen. You can't go off to a hotel, or you

can't go Do you know, the Hemingway version where you're

like, in a cabin somewhere and you like write incredible works.

No, you're a parent, you need to be living this life. She said,

Go live your life, your book will be better for it. So I like

that idea. I've used that over the years, I pull from that. And

I think, go live my life. And you will find outside

inspiration. So maybe if that person that you're living in the

same house with maybe even sharing the same bed with, if

they're not on board, go out and live your life starting to

pursue these passions that you have, which can ultimately

become your purpose. And you, you really start to realize

there's more outside of what's right next to you that could

potentially be holding you about. And there's something

that happens, it catches fire, just like you were talking about

with your friends that saw it for all those years and thought,

okay, when are you gonna get a real job? And then suddenly,

they're like, actually, can you teach us your ways. So I really

love that idea. And I would love to just hit on what it's like. I

mean, entrepreneurship is hard if you can have a partner in it,

even if it's not the person you're married to, if you can

have that encouragement, that's what I love about what you guys

have done with raised on plant and the health made simple group

is that it is community, it's so important, because we're all

gonna be different steps, we're all going to be at different

levels. Not everyone is going to be up on stage with their Kino

talking about how this thing that they chose to do has

completely changed their lives. Some people are just on the

homefront, and they want a simplified recipe to get some

vegetables into their littles. So both of you, I would love to

hear what you guys think, is the way that you can take those big

important things that you're wanting to do. And still have

the parenting part. Have the kids be a part of all of that?

What would you say? What is it been like to bring your kid they

are so at the forefront of your business? I don't think your

business would be half as successful if you guys were not

making it a complete family affair with these cute little

girls, tell us what it's like to be an entrepreneur and parent

simultaneously.

Whoo, man.

It's a lot. Yeah,

it's a lot because we have to remember you we did this in our

20s Like when we got to sit at a little la coffee shops actually

read before to Pages book and you'll hear my story about that.

But

that was that was so fantastic. That word is so good. It paints

such a clear picture about what entrepreneur life is like before

and then after with littles. Yeah, so yeah, tell us about it.

And it does hit

you like a brick wall. I mean, when you become when you become

parents, and you, you know, all of a sudden, you truly have to

pivot every aspect of your life, you know, things have to change.

And you have to realize like, oh, well, I am, I have to

sacrifice a lot of the things that I used to just do, like

showering. You know, that sleeping, of course was one of

them. But it's almost this balance, we talked about a lot

like something has to go. So what is that thing, but it can't

be something that takes you down physically or mentally because

you have to be there for your family, you have to be there

with your health, with your mental health, you are the

leader of your family, you have to be there together in your

marriage and be a team. And so it's like, what are what's that

balance? And I don't I don't know, what would you say was

like the first thing that we had to kind of learn?

Well, just functioning with a few or less hours of sleep is

that was the largest thing that really, at first started to get

us to the point where we needed to be because, you know you're

exhausted your body needs sleep. But we also needed to do things

and we, the kids, they take priority and all things because

they can't survive without us right now. They need us to cook

the food for them. They need us to house that they need us so

that takes the priority and being able to schedule and plan

ahead, like we joke about Okay, so we need to If in or tomorrow

morning, we have this event. So let's start packing now. Start

getting ready now I'll just go to bed and my clothes. No, we

don't do that. But like you say,

that's a great I do that when we have to get on a plane with the

kids. I'm like, Who's sleeping in your outfit that you're going

to be wearing on the plane ride tomorrow? Yeah. But where you

can?

Yes, yes, planning ahead to the best of your abilities. Learning

to feed our family learning to feed our family shopping in

bulk, we always plan out what meals we're going to eat for the

week. Yeah. And then I went to Trader Joe's just before we came

to this podcast, and I have three or four meals already

ready to go that I know I'll be making X amount of time. And

then once the kids are down, use that opportunity to get all the

things done that you know you can't do when they're awake. So

just kind of scheduling the different items that you know

can get done during the kid time. And then the summer can

only get done afterwards.

I'm a huge fan of the morning routine. If you're at a point

right now, where you have at least you know the kids sleeping

somewhat consistently. I mean, do not put this on yourself. If

you're still in like postpartum sleep deprived craziness, you

just have to give yourself grace, you're in a special

season of life.

I knew you were gonna say grace, I was like, Yeah, yourself,

Grace, don't put pressure that is a whole other time of your

life.

Yes. And I and I struggled with that, because I was like,

Alright, let's go Let's kill him right back into it. But but now

you know what, once they're at a point where there's, there's

some some consistency in the sleep, finding an hour in the

morning before your kids wake up, and using that time to get

some things done, that you truly cannot do once they're awake.

And if you're an entrepreneur, that's going to be your power

hour, that's when you're, you know, doing the hard things like

calling the people that you're nervous to call or connecting

with the people are content creation, that actually requires

creative creativity and, and fresh brain right to actually

create what you need to make to get you through your next day of

of work. And then the other things can be in stolen moments.

And that's the beauty of what we do. If you're creating a

lifestyle for yourself, or you're working from home with

your family, you still have to find time to work. And that can

be when they're asleep nap times, you know, scheduling, you

know, we have a great gym that has an amazing kids program. So

we'll have like an hour we can take them, they can take a class

and we'll work and work out to like find that balance. But all

the other stuff can be kind of just as you do life. And it

should be and if you found something that you're truly

passionate about, it will feel like that, you know, I know I

can do every single aspect of our business for the most part.

While I do live while I do mom life, and it's meeting new moms

and connecting and cooking for my family. And that's the

content that we're sharing and, and answering questions. You

know, I'm doing that like, of course, while I'm like helping

with dinner, like rolling laundry, you know, we're

multitaskers. So there's moments to where you can do that. And

then the last thing I'll say is just letting yourself be present

when there's an opportunity to play with your kids, or instead

sit with them and talk to them about their day. And it's so

easy as a as a mompreneur to get lost in like, Okay, I'm doing

the bare minimum to like keep the house running, and doing you

know, my business. But then where's that special time? You

know, you can lose that so easily for yourself too, for

self care as well. So can you schedule those moments? Can you

look at the calendar and say, you know, going out with my

girls on this night for girls night on booking a special date

with my oldest, you know, on this day so we can have quality

time or someone said to me the other day like I just wish I had

I had said yes to my daughter when she asked me if I would

color with her more. And it just like I'm like, you know

emotionally I'm just talking about it. But it's like your

throat oh my gosh, total suckers. Total suckers.

But I do she cleans a lot. Like she said, I just was always so

obsessed with like, vacuuming and keeping the house clean. And

like, sometimes I would say, you know, Mommy's got to clean you

know, I'm busy. And she's like, I wish I would have just said

yes more and that just was like a huge, you know, moment for me

just being like, yeah, this this is fleeting. And right now it's

zero through flashbacks. And if you have older kids out there,

they're obviously new adventures to do with your young ones. But

that's a very unique times here provide because they need you so

much. You are the reason why they live that you feed that

they can't go and feed themselves. And and so Jenna

also mentioned one thing, we can continue the she said in the

mornings shall set up some shall do those calls in the morning.

So sometimes you can't do the call at five in the morning. But

that's when you need to use. Use the automation use the

technology there's wonderful time when you can wait cup five

in the morning and schedule some text messages to go out at noon,

When normal people are working, or like looking at their phones

and that morning.

That's, that's great advice. Yeah, that's really great advice

too, because even for me, I can say I am so not a morning

person. And what I have learned in my business is that instead

of having that morning Power Hour, I would love to have

sometimes that power hour between 10 and 11pm. And then I

will get that extra much needed sleep in the morning. And that

my my, there's something that happens when my house goes quiet

at night. And I put on the old, you know, noise cancelling

headphones, and sometimes the TV might be on in the background.

And then I find myself pausing it, and I keep the headphones on

and the quiet, all of a sudden, my brain just starts firing. So

you do whatever works best for you, my brain comes alive, I

wrote half maybe three fourths of my book between one and 4am.

Because I couldn't shut my brain off, it would just blow. And it

was because I lived my life during the day I was with my

family at the time that I was writing. And I was actually

teaching as well. And so I was getting so much inspiration from

being present in my life and not feeling like I need to get home

because I need to write this amount of words at this time, or

you know, it's whatever, even if you're not writing book, but

like you said, anything that you're wanting to put time and

effort and energy into find when that makes the most sense for

you based on your style. And when things start to flow for

you. And I really love the idea that you said about stolen

moments here and there. Because you can get really inspired by

your kids working with your kids, something can come up.

It's almost like seeing life through kids eyes, especially if

they're experiencing something new. If you're an entrepreneur,

and you happen to see your kids or other people's kids children

experiencing something new. I think that that ignites

something in you as an entrepreneur because you're

like, I live for those moments of the new creation. Do you do

you feel like that? Like you? You're like, whoa, yes, that's

so much fun. You want to like bottle, that sense of newness

and lightbulb moment newness? And you want to put that into

your business? At least I feel like that. Do you guys feel like

that?

Absolutely. Absolutely. It's that passion? It's the

inspiration? It's, it's your answer, if you're not even sure

what direction to go with your business, or where to even

start? And that's your answer. And I think, you know, Jake was

right on with what he was saying before. Once you have that, that

passion and that direction, and you have the inspiration in your

day to day, then it's a matter of implementation, like how do

we do this? Like how do we make this happen. And so you know,

using the technology using the systems, but also understanding

that you have lots of different vehicles to use, like we've

already mentioned in today's episode, to help you scale and

to take you know, whether it's a service or a product or an

experience that you're offering people to actually round it out

and make it all three things. And then to create a machine

that actually helps you to reach more people to service the

people that you are servicing. And then create that consistency

into it. So that's literally what we do now is we just help

people do that and so many different ways and figure it out

for their own unique circumstance or or passion

project or whatever they're trying to do small business

entrepreneur life and and then bringing it all together with

that impact of you know, what is the bigger picture look like?

How can we reach more people with with our message and with

helping others live a healthy lifestyle, you know, make money

that matters for their family, and then be able to say yes to

whatever they want to in life.

I love that. Thank you so much. I want the resources that you

guys have to be to have a moment here. You guys, I work with

Jenna and Jay in multiple ways. I love being one of those 2000

influencers. I absolutely love being a part of the raised on

plants community, the app is outstanding of so many different

ways to be able to work with them to get healthier, to

inspire your family and also to be a part of the business side

of it and bring in some extra income because I know that that

can be needed and very important. So if you want to

work with them, guys, tell us how we can find you all the

different avenues and I will absolutely put all of those in

shownotes so that everybody can check out your work. Thank you.

Thank you so much page. Well, we actually set up a little stuff

Stem through our, our text business number. So you can text

the word pivot p i vot. Oh, I love it to our number

704-579-6429

Say it one more time,

say it one more time. 704-579-6429. And that's me,

it's actually me not robot.

It really is, I can attest to that, because she pops up in my

text messages. And I'm like, it's like, I can literally go

back and forth with you. And I love the things that come to my

inbox. They are so inspirational. Anthracnose them

Bull. I love this simplicity. So okay, so we'll touch the word

pivot to you, and what will happen,

so text that to us, and then we'll really just start a

conversation and see what you need, what you want to talk more

about, or what you need help with. Of course, if you're

interested in our app, you can just download it from the App

Store raised on plants, download it, you can visit our website

raised on plants.com. And connect with us that way. For

any of the entrepreneurship or business tech consulting that

that Jake primarily does, and we kind of do it together behind

the scenes, you can reach reach out to us through that same

number. So we'll be able to direct you once you send us a

message and just help you get plugged in. Or just honestly be

new friends. And just let us be there to cheer you on. I'm also

on Instagram at generally rude or at RISD on plants as well, if

you'd like to connect with us on social media.

Thank you, you are the absolute best. Thank you guys so much for

sharing your wisdom and your love for a healthier lifestyle

and ways that we can really truly implement some of these

things that you've talked about to have that entrepreneur life

or that even if you're still in corporate or even if you are

just on the homefront, and you are creating impact and raising

incredible kids, that is a massively huge job. Thank you so

much for helping us feel like wherever we are, you're there to

support us. I love being a part of your community. I'm so so

grateful that God put you in my life so long ago, and we've been

able to grow together. And I feel like we've grown up

together,

truly, truly have grown up together. We've all we've all

been through all these different stages and seasons. And I'm just

so honored to be on here to energy because to just we have

seen you just thrive in this space. And I could not be more

excited that this podcast is here and happening and just

inspiring so many people, myself included. So thank you so much,

Paige for having us.

Thank you, you know what I received that I appreciate that

a lot because it is a commitment. And I feel like with

the support of you guys and awesome friends and family. It

has just made this such a joy to pursue, sometimes hard, but it's

totally worth it because it's really exciting and it makes you

feel like you are creating that impact and you are making a

difference and serving others and I know that is at the

forefront for you guys. Okay, please go enjoy what's left of

your final moments while mom is watching the little. And you

guys just have the best day. Thank you all so much for

listening. And I will talk to you next week for some more ways

we can pivot. We can support each other, we can serve each

other and follow our passions. And thank you again so much,

Jake and Jenna for being here to share yours. Thank You page.

Bye, you guys. Thanks for listening to another episode of

the time to pivot podcast. If it was helpful for you. I'd love

for you to head over to Apple podcast. Hit that fifth star and

write a review. One with me to speak at your next event or work

with me one on one to get clarity around your gifts, how

to serve others and go from stuck and stressed to focused

and fulfilled. Reach out on the contact page at everything with

style.com and connect with me on social at everything with style

mom. Thanks again for listening and sharing the podcast and mom

boss remember this. Your gifts are meant to be shared. Don't

keep them to yourself and stay in your comfort zone. This is