1 00:00:00,410 --> 00:00:04,222 And hello and welcome to 2 00:00:04,276 --> 00:00:08,126 another episode of Career Conversations with Janice myself, 3 00:00:08,228 --> 00:00:11,902 obviously. And we have a guest today. Her name is Patricia Q. 4 00:00:11,956 --> 00:00:14,510 Jenkins. Welcome, Patricia. 5 00:00:15,170 --> 00:00:18,334 Hi. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Oh, 6 00:00:18,372 --> 00:00:21,866 man. Podcast voice. Everyone I interview has a podcast voice. 7 00:00:21,898 --> 00:00:25,234 I feel like I need to create a podcast voice. 8 00:00:25,402 --> 00:00:26,280 All right. 9 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:31,526 I don't have one. I just blab. But everyone comes on and they're like, 10 00:00:31,628 --> 00:00:34,920 hi, I'm chardet on the mic today. 11 00:00:36,250 --> 00:00:39,114 So welcome. 12 00:00:39,312 --> 00:00:43,862 And the first question I ask everybody is, what does introversion 13 00:00:43,926 --> 00:00:45,180 mean to you? 14 00:00:47,870 --> 00:00:51,920 That's cool. What does it mean to me? It means 15 00:00:54,930 --> 00:00:59,214 focused energy and 16 00:00:59,252 --> 00:01:04,402 not in a snobby way, but I 17 00:01:04,456 --> 00:01:08,082 like to give my full attention to people 18 00:01:08,216 --> 00:01:11,170 or what I am engaged in. 19 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:14,254 If I'm being pulled in too many directions, 20 00:01:14,382 --> 00:01:17,686 I can be overwhelmed and a 21 00:01:17,708 --> 00:01:22,200 bit scattered. So introversion to me means 22 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:26,360 focused attention on what's in front of me and 23 00:01:27,130 --> 00:01:31,082 what's important. So if I'm having 24 00:01:31,136 --> 00:01:34,442 a conversation like we are now, you are my main focus, 25 00:01:34,576 --> 00:01:37,658 which is why big groups of people and all of 26 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:40,782 that dynamic energy just wears me out 27 00:01:40,836 --> 00:01:43,550 because I feel like I'm spreading myself too thin. 28 00:01:44,610 --> 00:01:48,078 Wow. Okay. I'm going 29 00:01:48,084 --> 00:01:51,150 to add that to my little idea of introversion. That's great. 30 00:01:51,220 --> 00:01:55,102 Thank you so very much. And so because this is Career 31 00:01:55,166 --> 00:01:59,634 Conversations, I have to ask you a, 32 00:01:59,752 --> 00:02:02,914 what would you consider your title to be now? And B, 33 00:02:03,032 --> 00:02:06,854 what was the first job you had? Okay, first job is 34 00:02:06,892 --> 00:02:10,466 easier. The first unofficial 35 00:02:10,498 --> 00:02:14,530 one, I had a paper round. First official 36 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:18,214 one was I was sort of like a 37 00:02:18,252 --> 00:02:21,782 junior administrator on a project. 38 00:02:21,916 --> 00:02:26,206 Good God. This takes me back on a project in Lasotu 39 00:02:26,258 --> 00:02:29,818 where they were resettling people because they were going to build a 40 00:02:29,824 --> 00:02:31,760 dam on that land. 41 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:37,006 Okay, I'm fascinated, but I 42 00:02:37,028 --> 00:02:40,862 will carry on with out of the jobs you've had because 43 00:02:40,916 --> 00:02:43,438 we're going to skip the what you call yourself now part. Out of the jobs 44 00:02:43,454 --> 00:02:45,700 you've had. Which has been your favorite and why? 45 00:02:48,230 --> 00:02:53,810 Favorite I'm. 46 00:02:56,230 --> 00:03:00,214 Or worst, actually. Oh, no, that's that's a long list. We don't have that 47 00:03:00,252 --> 00:03:03,446 time. My favorite one was it was 48 00:03:03,468 --> 00:03:07,886 probably being self employed running podcast, 49 00:03:07,938 --> 00:03:13,706 maven. Because it 50 00:03:13,728 --> 00:03:16,794 can be over. No, not overwhelming. It can be difficult sometimes 51 00:03:16,912 --> 00:03:19,754 to keep all the balls in the air, 52 00:03:19,952 --> 00:03:23,310 but those successes and when things build 53 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:27,070 on things and people get to know who you are 54 00:03:27,220 --> 00:03:31,146 and you've actually done the work to career a niche 55 00:03:31,178 --> 00:03:35,042 for yourself, and you get that recognition for you and your work 56 00:03:35,176 --> 00:03:38,770 and it's nobody else, that's an absolutely 57 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,450 amazing feeling. 58 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:46,854 Not managing it well can lead to burnout, but I still feel 59 00:03:46,892 --> 00:03:50,694 like that's one of the best things I've done because I 60 00:03:50,732 --> 00:03:54,662 built it from scratch on my own without really having the 61 00:03:54,716 --> 00:03:58,834 techie background. So you mentioned burnout 62 00:03:58,882 --> 00:04:03,260 there. It's a favorite topic of mine. And as 63 00:04:04,750 --> 00:04:08,102 someone who had a business, ran their own business as an introvert 64 00:04:08,166 --> 00:04:12,618 and you mentioned juggling all the balls can lead to burnout. 65 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:14,240 If you don't mind, 66 00:04:15,730 --> 00:04:19,354 what advice would you give to an introvert 67 00:04:19,402 --> 00:04:21,680 entrepreneur to avoid some of that? 68 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:28,082 Plan in the breaks. It doesn't matter 69 00:04:28,216 --> 00:04:32,110 if your schedule doesn't look like whatever you see on Instagram 70 00:04:32,190 --> 00:04:35,926 and you're not busy, busy, busy, busy bouncing around. Plan in 71 00:04:35,948 --> 00:04:39,222 the breaks. That can mean on busy days, 72 00:04:39,356 --> 00:04:43,078 making sure that if you need at least ten minutes before 73 00:04:43,164 --> 00:04:47,654 phone calls, make sure you've put in 15 if 74 00:04:47,692 --> 00:04:51,690 you need public holidays are something 75 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,826 as well. Where I used to think, okay, now I can really push through and 76 00:04:54,848 --> 00:04:58,390 get everything done. No plan in the holiday. 77 00:04:58,550 --> 00:05:03,014 Take the break. Have even 78 00:05:03,072 --> 00:05:06,702 just one person that you can discuss your business with 79 00:05:06,756 --> 00:05:10,186 from sun up to sundown, who knows what you're trying to achieve, 80 00:05:10,298 --> 00:05:14,034 who's possibly trying to do it for themselves or is a little bit ahead of 81 00:05:14,072 --> 00:05:17,742 you because it's important to have somebody to bounce 82 00:05:17,806 --> 00:05:21,042 ideas off when you 83 00:05:21,096 --> 00:05:24,610 take a break. Take one completely. So if you go on holiday, 84 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:29,106 okay, you're going to take your laptop, but for goodness sake, don't use your holidays 85 00:05:29,138 --> 00:05:32,694 to catch up on work. Feel I'm going away from the question more. 86 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:35,720 No, keep going, keep going. That was great. I'm like, 87 00:05:36,250 --> 00:05:39,340 she's calling me out. I feel called out on this. 88 00:05:44,990 --> 00:05:48,218 I know it's an overused phrase, but self care. 89 00:05:48,384 --> 00:05:52,110 Find something that you really love and indulge in it. 90 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:56,382 Indulge in it. You don't have to be working 18 hours 91 00:05:56,436 --> 00:06:00,074 a day. Find something that is totally 92 00:06:00,122 --> 00:06:04,420 unrelated to what you do and make the time for it. 93 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:08,146 If you are coupled or in a partnership or 94 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:11,954 whatever it is and you are running 95 00:06:11,992 --> 00:06:15,010 your own business. Mine was small and I was working from home, 96 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,294 so I found that we needed to have 97 00:06:18,332 --> 00:06:21,622 a conversation about kind of division of labor in the home. 98 00:06:21,676 --> 00:06:25,720 Just because I am working at home, it doesn't mean that 99 00:06:26,890 --> 00:06:30,314 my job is entirely looking after the whole house 100 00:06:30,352 --> 00:06:34,058 and doing my little project. It's like, no, I'm trying to do something 101 00:06:34,144 --> 00:06:38,060 here and positive things. 102 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,666 It's hard to promote yourself as an introvert. I think for me 103 00:06:42,768 --> 00:06:46,366 it was really difficult. I felt like I 104 00:06:46,388 --> 00:06:49,374 didn't want to tell people what I did off the bat because I wasn't sure 105 00:06:49,412 --> 00:06:53,454 how to balance it. But don't be afraid to go 106 00:06:53,492 --> 00:06:56,642 to meetups and business meetings and all of those things. 107 00:06:56,696 --> 00:07:00,478 Just Google it, go to the local ones and if there's 108 00:07:00,494 --> 00:07:04,946 a lot of people there, just I used to make myself I 109 00:07:04,968 --> 00:07:07,974 made a promise to myself that I would meet three people, 110 00:07:08,092 --> 00:07:11,654 have three really great conversations, and then I was allowed to leave. 111 00:07:11,772 --> 00:07:15,960 But I couldn't leave unless I'd met two or three people and 112 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:20,058 I know what they do, and even if it wasn't related to what 113 00:07:20,064 --> 00:07:22,490 I do, you're just making those connections. 114 00:07:22,830 --> 00:07:26,250 Yeah, okay, I've run out of steam. 115 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:31,326 That's perfectly fine. What I loved in there was when you said 116 00:07:31,428 --> 00:07:34,862 indulge in something you love. I feel 117 00:07:34,916 --> 00:07:38,494 like as humans, never mind as introverts, it's very 118 00:07:38,532 --> 00:07:42,122 hard for us to make carve out, find insert 119 00:07:42,186 --> 00:07:45,230 word. Here the time to indulge, 120 00:07:45,310 --> 00:07:49,582 because indulgence is extravagant. It brings to mind extravagance, 121 00:07:49,646 --> 00:07:53,138 and there might be guilt around that or 122 00:07:53,224 --> 00:07:56,790 other things pulling you in different directions, but the idea 123 00:07:56,860 --> 00:08:01,000 of indulging is so luxurious and so 124 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:09,122 upfilling. I guess I like that phrase, 125 00:08:09,186 --> 00:08:13,414 indulge in something you love. And it brings to mind a conversation 126 00:08:13,462 --> 00:08:16,698 I was having yesterday about what are your vices? I'm like, I don't really know, 127 00:08:16,784 --> 00:08:20,610 maybe chocolate. I'm not really sure what my vices are, but a vice 128 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:23,440 might be indulging in something that you love. 129 00:08:25,250 --> 00:08:28,746 You mentioned about going out there and meeting connections. 130 00:08:28,858 --> 00:08:32,814 So how have you made a connection that 131 00:08:32,852 --> 00:08:36,026 changed the course of your life? It doesn't have to be a big course change. 132 00:08:36,068 --> 00:08:39,506 I'm not saying you pivoted and got married or whatever it 133 00:08:39,528 --> 00:08:42,306 might be, but is there a connection that you have made that has changed your 134 00:08:42,328 --> 00:08:43,540 life in some way? 135 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:49,846 I was thinking on this one, and I 136 00:08:49,868 --> 00:08:53,080 guess meeting my partner was life changing because 137 00:08:53,690 --> 00:08:57,522 I became an expat and I became the traveling spouse and 138 00:08:57,676 --> 00:09:00,780 I built my podcasting business. 139 00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:05,898 So that was a connection that changed the way 140 00:09:05,984 --> 00:09:10,098 that the plan that I had for my life, because I very much didn't 141 00:09:10,134 --> 00:09:12,350 think that I wanted to get married. 142 00:09:13,650 --> 00:09:18,126 I am happily married and it works. But there was that another 143 00:09:18,228 --> 00:09:21,598 connection. Let me see. 144 00:09:21,764 --> 00:09:25,666 I think it's hard for me to come up with one because for 145 00:09:25,688 --> 00:09:29,682 the past, let's say two and a half, three years, it has 146 00:09:29,816 --> 00:09:32,974 kind of been pretty isolating, 147 00:09:33,102 --> 00:09:36,630 what with COVID and lockdown and moving countries. 148 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:42,440 But I did meet a lady when I was in the US. 149 00:09:43,370 --> 00:09:46,742 And she's a really great friend. We talk 150 00:09:46,796 --> 00:09:50,502 sporadically, which is nice. That's our communication 151 00:09:50,566 --> 00:09:53,942 style. It doesn't have to be every day, we just talk sporadically. 152 00:09:54,006 --> 00:09:58,598 But we had similar backgrounds 153 00:09:58,774 --> 00:10:03,040 and when I was new in the US. It was just 154 00:10:03,730 --> 00:10:07,242 really beautiful that somebody held 155 00:10:07,306 --> 00:10:10,574 out the hand of friendship because they had 156 00:10:10,612 --> 00:10:14,462 been in that position before and they knew that it could be just scary, 157 00:10:14,526 --> 00:10:17,998 overwhelming not to know how to interact 158 00:10:18,094 --> 00:10:23,250 in a certain environment or country. So that 159 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,222 was amazing. I was touched and was still good friends. But I 160 00:10:27,276 --> 00:10:31,266 also tried to do that myself by creating 161 00:10:31,378 --> 00:10:34,706 expat meetups and joining 162 00:10:34,738 --> 00:10:38,266 that expat organization where you can meet up every month for lunch and 163 00:10:38,288 --> 00:10:42,470 stuff like that, just so that people wouldn't feel weird 164 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:45,900 or lonely or isolated in a new city. 165 00:10:46,510 --> 00:10:47,420 So yeah. 166 00:10:51,330 --> 00:10:55,294 Wow, okay. And so you 167 00:10:55,332 --> 00:10:59,018 talked about time and overwhelm 168 00:10:59,114 --> 00:11:02,914 and doing all the things. What is 169 00:11:02,952 --> 00:11:04,580 something that you say no to? 170 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:16,410 I say no to a lot of social activities. 171 00:11:17,890 --> 00:11:21,502 I live in a very small place. There's only one or two things 172 00:11:21,556 --> 00:11:25,486 to do, and a lot of the time I say no 173 00:11:25,588 --> 00:11:27,600 to going to the pub. 174 00:11:29,810 --> 00:11:32,386 I say no to going to the pub when it's going to be full of 175 00:11:32,408 --> 00:11:35,634 people. Now, do I want to meet people and make friends? 176 00:11:35,752 --> 00:11:39,726 Yes, I do. Do I want to go introduce 177 00:11:39,758 --> 00:11:43,106 myself to a big group of people that have known each 178 00:11:43,128 --> 00:11:46,566 other for years and years and years? No, I don't. So it's going to be 179 00:11:46,588 --> 00:11:49,766 a slow burn. What else do 180 00:11:49,788 --> 00:11:53,554 I say no to? I say no to my husband 181 00:11:53,602 --> 00:11:56,938 making that noise in the passage while I'm recording this. 182 00:11:57,104 --> 00:11:58,730 But that's an aside. 183 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:05,610 I say no to a lot of social invitations. 184 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:11,118 It's nothing personal. It's really weird. I want to be invited, but then 185 00:12:11,204 --> 00:12:15,262 on the day, I might not want to go. It depends on what 186 00:12:15,316 --> 00:12:18,446 my energy is on the day. It sounds really childish unless you 187 00:12:18,468 --> 00:12:21,860 have the time to explain it. And I don't at the moment. 188 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:27,726 But overwhelming, heaving social situations 189 00:12:27,838 --> 00:12:31,620 is the thing that I say no to the most. 190 00:12:33,290 --> 00:12:37,560 And how does saying no improve your life? 191 00:12:38,010 --> 00:12:41,590 Oh, God. The relaxation. God, 192 00:12:41,660 --> 00:12:42,790 the relaxation. 193 00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:50,074 I like to meet new people. I love it. I love 194 00:12:50,112 --> 00:12:53,530 to form connections. I want to hear about people and their lives. 195 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:57,146 I just find it fascinating. You could 196 00:12:57,168 --> 00:13:00,350 have lived in the same place all of your life and I think your story 197 00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:01,680 will still be amazing. 198 00:13:03,970 --> 00:13:07,694 But I would prefer that that was always sort 199 00:13:07,732 --> 00:13:11,874 of a one on one or at the most a one to two 200 00:13:12,072 --> 00:13:15,954 kind of conversation, because then 201 00:13:15,992 --> 00:13:20,158 I can give it the energy, the time, the listening, 202 00:13:20,334 --> 00:13:25,154 the thought that it deserves. So I 203 00:13:25,192 --> 00:13:29,110 find that it's improved if I'm not thrown into situations where 204 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:32,710 I'm trying to remember a whole lot of things about a whole bunch of people 205 00:13:32,780 --> 00:13:35,482 because my memory is crap. Yeah. 206 00:13:35,536 --> 00:13:38,874 So I find them more restful. Okay. 207 00:13:38,992 --> 00:13:42,700 And so that kind of leads me to 208 00:13:44,350 --> 00:13:48,602 what is the scariest and or most uncomfortable 209 00:13:48,666 --> 00:13:51,966 thing that you've ever had to do for maybe a job or for your 210 00:13:51,988 --> 00:13:55,326 business? Certainly for my business. 211 00:13:55,428 --> 00:13:58,942 I went to, oh, what is it? 212 00:13:58,996 --> 00:14:04,018 Podcast Movement. I went to Podcast Movement and 213 00:14:04,104 --> 00:14:07,220 there were so many people there, and I just think, 214 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:11,602 yeah, nobody knew anybody. Like, it was, I think, one of the first 215 00:14:11,656 --> 00:14:15,222 ones. It was really amazing and I met some people there, 216 00:14:15,276 --> 00:14:18,790 but it was just like there was no 217 00:14:18,860 --> 00:14:22,200 place just to collect yourself. 218 00:14:23,610 --> 00:14:26,822 So I keep using this 219 00:14:26,876 --> 00:14:27,480 word. 220 00:14:31,450 --> 00:14:35,126 What I did was I just needed a quiet five minutes from 221 00:14:35,148 --> 00:14:38,266 all the hustle and bustle, from all of the stalls, from all of the noise, 222 00:14:38,298 --> 00:14:41,726 from all of the promoting, from all of the business cards. So I went 223 00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:44,800 to go hide in the lady's bathroom. Yeah. 224 00:14:47,010 --> 00:14:50,398 And I really wish ladies bathrooms were like, they were like back in 225 00:14:50,404 --> 00:14:53,838 the day in the something where there was a toilet bit and then there 226 00:14:53,844 --> 00:14:57,006 was a place where you could just sit down. The used to have sofas in 227 00:14:57,028 --> 00:15:00,954 there and stuff like that. I'm just like I just need two minutes to collect 228 00:15:01,002 --> 00:15:04,802 myself from all of the noise is yeah, sorry, went on a tangent. 229 00:15:04,866 --> 00:15:06,600 What was the question? No, 230 00:15:08,330 --> 00:15:11,590 we're talking about something that was scary or uncomfortable to do because 231 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:14,838 of your profession or whatever it might be. 232 00:15:15,004 --> 00:15:19,090 And conference creators 233 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:23,238 and event creators 99.9% 234 00:15:23,324 --> 00:15:27,146 of the time. Never think about entry 235 00:15:27,218 --> 00:15:31,166 fence or anyone who's neurodivergent, to be fair in any 236 00:15:31,188 --> 00:15:35,150 way, shape or form or other. People just think that everyone 237 00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:38,938 wants all the things I think they do. But it's 238 00:15:38,954 --> 00:15:42,226 like kind of that's the VIP treatment, because then you get to go 239 00:15:42,248 --> 00:15:45,954 sit in the VIP lounge when it all gets a bit too much for you. 240 00:15:46,072 --> 00:15:49,634 But if there was maybe just some 241 00:15:49,672 --> 00:15:52,562 sort of quieter space that was, I don't know, 242 00:15:52,616 --> 00:15:56,550 sponsored by somebody just where you could gather yourself. 243 00:15:56,700 --> 00:16:00,038 And these are the seats where you can gather yourself, 244 00:16:00,124 --> 00:16:03,846 look at your phone, make your notes or just be for 245 00:16:03,868 --> 00:16:07,338 five minutes. That's the thing. Yeah. 246 00:16:07,424 --> 00:16:10,858 Putting that out there so that maybe somebody can run with that. 247 00:16:10,944 --> 00:16:12,700 Please use that idea. 248 00:16:16,830 --> 00:16:20,602 Conferences. But you're right about the VIP thing, especially at conferences 249 00:16:20,666 --> 00:16:25,600 like podcast movement, they did have a VIP section because 250 00:16:26,130 --> 00:16:29,278 I went to a podcast movement event and one of the 251 00:16:29,284 --> 00:16:32,750 people that I sort of went with was in the VIP 252 00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:37,886 section, and it's normally those with enough money, so it's gatekeeped 253 00:16:37,918 --> 00:16:41,874 in a really weird way. And for Schmoozing, it was very 254 00:16:41,912 --> 00:16:45,266 much people in there dressed a certain way 255 00:16:45,368 --> 00:16:48,946 and were like names of humans. They weren't the speakers 256 00:16:48,978 --> 00:16:52,006 lounge, it was the speakers. So you got to go and try not to be 257 00:16:52,028 --> 00:16:55,874 fangirl over the speakers. But also yeah, you write the VIP section, 258 00:16:55,922 --> 00:16:59,546 especially in that particular conference was the peace and 259 00:16:59,568 --> 00:17:02,746 quiet section. Yeah, and it was the big names. And I get it. I mean, 260 00:17:02,768 --> 00:17:08,026 that's what you're going to do to attract those big names to your 261 00:17:08,048 --> 00:17:11,614 conference. I mean, it's got to be done, but I'm just saying maybe there's a 262 00:17:11,652 --> 00:17:14,814 way to shape it a little bit and have 263 00:17:14,852 --> 00:17:18,510 just another quiet corner. I'd be prepared to pay, 264 00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:22,106 like, I don't know, some stipend to get in there and 265 00:17:22,148 --> 00:17:25,842 just have quiet and I can bring my own headphones and then just listen 266 00:17:25,896 --> 00:17:29,314 to something. Yeah, putting it 267 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:32,786 out there to all of these what do you call these things? 268 00:17:32,968 --> 00:17:36,118 Oh, God. The meditation app. People like 269 00:17:36,204 --> 00:17:39,590 calm. Yeah, well, 270 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:43,362 calm on this side, but I also know there's the UK one headspace. 271 00:17:43,506 --> 00:17:46,470 Yes. And Balance. I'm a fan of balance. 272 00:17:47,390 --> 00:17:50,406 Like five minutes to calm breathing exercises. 273 00:17:50,518 --> 00:17:53,850 Beautiful. We need more of that at conferences. 274 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:58,380 Yeah, I'm going to start tagging these people. 275 00:17:59,330 --> 00:18:03,342 We really would like this. This would be so 276 00:18:03,396 --> 00:18:07,086 good. I wish I could insert this 277 00:18:07,108 --> 00:18:10,478 into an event that I am currently planning, but I don't think we have 278 00:18:10,564 --> 00:18:14,210 time. I've never seen the venue space before. So I've been told that 279 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,002 everything bounces everywhere, so I don't think I can have a but next time. 280 00:18:18,056 --> 00:18:21,442 Next time, Gadget. Next time. All right, so speaking of 281 00:18:21,496 --> 00:18:24,934 podcasting, haha. Let's get a bit meta here. What is a 282 00:18:24,972 --> 00:18:30,694 misconception about your job and or industry with 283 00:18:30,732 --> 00:18:34,002 podcasting? That I am in a great big studio, 284 00:18:34,066 --> 00:18:35,830 perhaps not so much anymore, 285 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:41,850 and I've got all of the bells and whistles in front of me. I don't 286 00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:45,654 before we turned on this video, I'm going to be honest, like, I'm sitting 287 00:18:45,702 --> 00:18:49,166 in my makeshift study in my messy home 288 00:18:49,348 --> 00:18:52,894 with a blanket over my head, hoping that this audio turns out well 289 00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:55,440 because I haven't dusted off my mic in a while. 290 00:18:58,130 --> 00:19:00,030 What else? Misconceptions? 291 00:19:01,670 --> 00:19:03,940 I think sometimes the money. 292 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:09,906 There's a whole spectrum when it comes to 293 00:19:09,928 --> 00:19:10,610 earning. 294 00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:16,982 I'm going to say there's friendly competition. So, yeah, it's not 295 00:19:17,036 --> 00:19:20,530 all jawing and fighting for clients 296 00:19:20,610 --> 00:19:24,262 that much, but I'm just going to say what people 297 00:19:24,316 --> 00:19:27,850 think you need to get started. The barriers to entries, 298 00:19:28,510 --> 00:19:32,058 they've changed so much in the past 18 months that 299 00:19:32,144 --> 00:19:35,414 you truly, truly, truly, truly just need a laptop 300 00:19:35,462 --> 00:19:38,942 and a microphone to get started now because they've done 301 00:19:38,996 --> 00:19:42,414 some amazing things with the software, where a lot of 302 00:19:42,452 --> 00:19:46,430 all the dithering about with it is going to be done for you. 303 00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:49,594 So, yeah, I love it. Like, 304 00:19:49,652 --> 00:19:55,380 everybody's innovating now and the competition between the 305 00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:59,902 Door programs and where you can record interviews, 306 00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:03,782 they're all just trying to be better. So it's amazing 307 00:20:03,916 --> 00:20:07,320 for the users. All right. 308 00:20:08,890 --> 00:20:12,630 It's all about the consumers. All right, so thank you so very 309 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:16,170 much. I have one final question 310 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,874 for you. And the question is, 311 00:20:19,072 --> 00:20:22,042 is a hot dog a sandwich? Oh, 312 00:20:22,096 --> 00:20:22,700 God. 313 00:20:26,190 --> 00:20:26,940 Right? 314 00:20:30,110 --> 00:20:33,146 Yes. All right. 315 00:20:33,328 --> 00:20:36,378 Yeah. This is a hill I'm prepared 316 00:20:36,394 --> 00:20:39,694 to die on, almost. What was the thought 317 00:20:39,732 --> 00:20:43,006 process? Because you stopped and you're like, tick, tick, 318 00:20:43,038 --> 00:20:46,546 tick were okay. What was the process that 319 00:20:46,568 --> 00:20:50,434 happened then? Well, I'm thinking about well, maybe it was just 320 00:20:50,472 --> 00:20:53,966 what I was used to growing up and what I call a sandwich. 321 00:20:53,998 --> 00:20:57,430 But I think that the story I heard was 322 00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:00,946 it came about because there was some sort of or don't 323 00:21:00,978 --> 00:21:04,614 quote me on this, there was some guy a couple of 324 00:21:04,652 --> 00:21:08,438 hundred years ago and he was a gambler 325 00:21:08,534 --> 00:21:11,834 and he didn't want to stop his game so that he could 326 00:21:11,872 --> 00:21:15,482 go eat. So what they did was bring 327 00:21:15,536 --> 00:21:19,186 him some slices of roast beetle, something between two slices 328 00:21:19,238 --> 00:21:22,606 of bread, hence the sandwich. And that 329 00:21:22,628 --> 00:21:26,494 might just be all cobblers, but I think it's a super story. So if 330 00:21:26,532 --> 00:21:30,046 it is something in between a slice of bread or 331 00:21:30,068 --> 00:21:32,110 sliced bread, it's a sandwich. 332 00:21:33,010 --> 00:21:36,820 All right, thank you very much for walking us through that. It has been 333 00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:40,866 a pleasure talking to you. I have learned so much and got some 334 00:21:40,888 --> 00:21:44,082 really good quotes. Everyone indulge in something you 335 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,982 love. That's the one I'm taking away. I don't know what it's going to be. 336 00:21:47,036 --> 00:21:49,926 I think overindulging in chocolate might be bad for me, but, hey, 337 00:21:50,028 --> 00:21:53,846 Patricia said I should do it. So indulge in something you love. 338 00:21:53,948 --> 00:21:57,226 Any final words you have for our audience before I let you go back 339 00:21:57,248 --> 00:21:58,460 to this beautiful day. 340 00:22:00,670 --> 00:22:03,050 Wow. So no pressure. 341 00:22:05,790 --> 00:22:10,894 I'm going to say that what I learned through being 342 00:22:10,932 --> 00:22:14,446 kind to myself and learning to rest more and 343 00:22:14,548 --> 00:22:18,000 following joy and dreams is 344 00:22:19,570 --> 00:22:23,422 don't be afraid to go after what you really want. 345 00:22:23,556 --> 00:22:26,782 Don't let things stand in your way. And if people are 346 00:22:26,836 --> 00:22:29,614 negative the whole time to your idea, 347 00:22:29,812 --> 00:22:33,874 you're talking to the wrong person. Find a new crowd. 348 00:22:34,002 --> 00:22:36,760 It will happen. It happens slowly, but yeah, 349 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:40,760 just try it out. Just jump. See what happens. 350 00:22:41,290 --> 00:22:44,850 Just jump. That's my life advice. Just jump. Just jump. 351 00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:49,574 All right. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. This is Janice@thecareintra.com 352 00:22:49,612 --> 00:22:52,660 helping you build your brand and get hired. Have a great rest of your week.