Hello, everyone. I go by the name of Adrian
Speaker:Daniels. You're now tuned to the Sound of Accra
Speaker:and this is a show where we chat with colorful creatives and
Speaker:entrepreneurs with a Ghanaian background or a special
Speaker:interest to this city, bringing you one step
Speaker:closer to Accra. Now, before I
Speaker:introduce the guests I have on today, I'd just like to remind you
Speaker:that you can get the show notes for today's episode
Speaker:by visiting the mini site, the
Speaker:soundofaqua.com. that's the
Speaker:soundofaqua.com I won't be
Speaker:introducing myself in this episode. You can listen to the previous
Speaker:episode where you hear a little bit more about myself.
Speaker:On this note, I would like to introduce
Speaker:Lucy, who is the founder of YGP
Speaker:UK and that stands for Young Ghanaian Professionals uk.
Speaker:And we also have one of the elders from YGP too,
Speaker:who goes by the name of Isaac. What up, Isaac?
Speaker:And he just says hi. He's not shy, but he just says hi, that's all.
Speaker:So YGP Young Ghanaian Professionals is a meetup
Speaker:aimed at Ghanaians in their 20s and 30s
Speaker:who tend to be professionals in the community.
Speaker:But I'm not going to get too much into that as Lucy and Isaac will
Speaker:dive into that deeper. So. Yep. So
Speaker:Lucy is the founder of ygp. I hear she's a bit of a global
Speaker:matchmaker too. African. Loves
Speaker:your African weddings. Is that true? I'm trying.
Speaker:We're working on the first YGP marriage, aren't we?
Speaker:We've got people covering women areas. Right. Photographers,
Speaker:you've got the whole package. I can't
Speaker:believe that one. Stop. Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm. I think we're going to
Speaker:get to all of that stuff. I mean, this is like, I think we're starting
Speaker:to peak. I think in terms of what young Ghanaian professions from where it came
Speaker:from, it's starting to peak. But you know what they say, before you can learn
Speaker:the future, you need to know the past. So, Lucy, how about you share
Speaker:with the. The listeners. How did it all
Speaker:start? I mean, was it like two more than it's been more than two years
Speaker:ago? Yeah, so. Well, we're in our second year this year
Speaker:and it started off
Speaker:just meeting people like myself and I thought, what would
Speaker:Lucy like to do if she was to
Speaker:gather some friends around? What would that look like? So,
Speaker:yeah, just in the simplest of terms, it was just
Speaker:finding people who share the same interest
Speaker:in the culture and also in like working
Speaker:profession settings, and am I saying that correctly,
Speaker:but working professionalism. Yeah. Within
Speaker:London, it was Just to be like not to be but it was to just
Speaker:have a chit chat conversation just to see people's perspective
Speaker:on the Ghanaian culture, to share experiences, have a laugh, feel free.
Speaker:Like after your work is done, you just come and just chill and it was
Speaker:nothing serious. It wasn't your. Your typical. In my head it wasn't a typical
Speaker:networking like really kind of trying to get the cards
Speaker:and you're trying to. No, it's just really just like
Speaker:you're here to just meet people that feel like brothers and sisters and that was
Speaker:the feel of trying to just disseminate, disseminate and
Speaker:kind of just that ripple in the water where it's just a really
Speaker:freeing environment. Kind of like back home like after work
Speaker:and you go to like the Chop Bar and you're just chilling that kind of
Speaker:vibe. So yeah, that was it really. Just trying to just
Speaker:create that kind of vibe. And then what else? And then from there it's
Speaker:just. I initially always wanted 10 people.
Speaker:I heard you just wanted to make friends, keep life moving. And now
Speaker:you have more than 10 friends. Way more than 10 friends. I have friends.
Speaker:You have 10 times. 10 times 10. Yeah. And
Speaker:it's just, it's. It's. I think it's by the grace
Speaker:of God. I have to say that because attracting people that
Speaker:was like myself and, and there's so much talent.
Speaker:So much talent. Absolutely. So absolutely, you know,
Speaker:for that. So that's the basic of history really, you know.
Speaker:Absolutely. A lot of talent. You got Isaac here and co and so many
Speaker:talented people that I believe that you've met and I've met
Speaker:as well being part of your, your group along the way. And
Speaker:that first meetup, I'm sure you remember, I. I think that kind
Speaker:of showed it kind of indicated significance that was to
Speaker:come because that first meetup that I was there up in the. I think it
Speaker:was in pic. Was it Picadilly Circus? Yeah, the very first one. Who in particular
Speaker:came that shocked you? Someone came like you just didn't expect.
Speaker:Charlotte. Charlotte came and she was the one that said because I
Speaker:had put an eventbrite to just reach out
Speaker:to others not just on meetup.com but like another
Speaker:platform. And like I said, obviously on eventbrite
Speaker:there were people. All those people didn't come
Speaker:through apart from Charlotte. And I was like, oh my goodness. And then
Speaker:not just that, but Charlotte asked me 101 questions about this one
Speaker:meetup. I was like, oh my gosh, do I carry on? So Charlotte was my
Speaker:surprise in terms of her coming. And then I would say
Speaker:Alex as well. Alex A. Because we
Speaker:have quite a few Alexes in our group. Yeah, that's the original. Yeah.
Speaker:Alex A. And then there's like Alex I. And then there's another Alex A.
Speaker:There's quite a few Alexes that I can think of. So, yeah, Alex I.
Speaker:Have we first reunited on
Speaker:meetup as well. Beautiful, Beautiful. And that's after. Because I met him
Speaker:10 years ago and then it was like YGP was. I
Speaker:was. Oh, you're going, you want to come along? Let's talk about what, like, what
Speaker:we've missed that, that 10 years gap. So, yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker:just shocking in terms of like the people. I, I wasn't expecting
Speaker:for them to come. They came so brilliant. I remember there
Speaker:was an even. There was even non Ghanaians that turned up that first meeting.
Speaker:Park was. He was Chai. Was it Chinese?
Speaker:Japanese? I don't know. That shocked me. He had a few. Yeah, he
Speaker:contacted me. He was like, I want to just attend because he wanted to do
Speaker:work in government in Ghana. So, yeah, so he,
Speaker:he came. Park was Korean with Japanese
Speaker:Chinese heritage. He
Speaker:couldn't really speak English strong enough, but he was, yeah, he
Speaker:tried his best and he tried to mingle and I remember it was so
Speaker:loud and everybody was trying to just scream on top of their voices. It was
Speaker:such a noisy place and I was like, never again will I ever host a
Speaker:meetup on a Friday in so much noise.
Speaker:So, yeah, that was, he was, he was amazing. So was you, though,
Speaker:Adrian. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I remember he was really. You came.
Speaker:I remember he was just like, just super friendly,
Speaker:wanting to meet everyone and just being just. Yeah,
Speaker:just like a friend, you know. So I thought that was
Speaker:really nice and everybody would just. Everyone gelled quite well. It didn't feel like brothers
Speaker:and sisters had met or long or long lost friends even.
Speaker:Nobody wanted to leave, you know, me and my time. I was like, I. I
Speaker:need to catch my train to Kent. Guys will be just. I actually left them
Speaker:there, if you remember. I left you. Yeah. And you, you went back to Kent.
Speaker:And you know, now I understand why. Because we
Speaker:are, we. Because we have, we are recording this somewhere
Speaker:so far. Somewhere in Kent. Yeah. Okay. And then I believe,
Speaker:I know later on down the line, you know, I think this is the beauty
Speaker:of your, your, your networking event, your
Speaker:meetup story. Because you, what you have done is you've.
Speaker:Then you've given privileges to other people
Speaker:who have been in the meetup for a while. To then bring in other
Speaker:Ghanaians or maybe non guardians who have a special interest in Accra
Speaker:or Ghana, to be part of the meetup likes of Isaac.
Speaker:So, Isaac, I believe I met you in what you call, I think it was
Speaker:TLA Africa a couple years ago maybe. Yeah, yeah. Cecil was
Speaker:there. Yeah, yeah. And remember, added you to the group and now
Speaker:you guys have. I didn't expect this, but you guys are now, you know, fundamental
Speaker:part of YGP, which is great. JD's been real and I think it's
Speaker:beautiful. I love what you've done, Lucy, with the whole young Ghanaian
Speaker:professionals movement. You've given other people the authority to
Speaker:then bring in other people. And by that, by doing that, we scale faster
Speaker:and we can, you know, develop Ghana Accra, develop the. The UK
Speaker:Ghanaian community and beyond. Yeah. Because let's face it, it's not just
Speaker:Ghanaians that come. Yeah. We have different groups coming
Speaker:in. Yeah. Okay. Like what? Jamaicans,
Speaker:Caribbeans. So we have a few Nigerians. So. So
Speaker:YGP is predominantly. I did my calculation it was
Speaker:97.5 and a 0.5 because we have
Speaker:mixes where we have. I was gonna say apprentices.
Speaker:Sorry. We have, we have
Speaker:members who are like half Ghanaian, half
Speaker:Jamaican, half Ghanaian, half Nigerian
Speaker:and we have like those hyper mixes and perhaps even. I think
Speaker:there's one that is like half Ghanaian and. And the half is
Speaker:from European. We have some that are
Speaker:half Ghanaian and half from the nether. From the
Speaker:Netherlands as well. So those are my like
Speaker:0.5s in that sense. So it's a mix of
Speaker:that. Is that the result? I remember you sent out a survey to the YGP
Speaker:community and you, I think. Did you kind. Did you ask
Speaker:where the person, where the person was from? Well, not, I don't. I think.
Speaker:Because it sounds like survey stats to me. Yeah, no, I. I think I have.
Speaker:Yeah. In the past, at the beginning of the development,
Speaker:I had asked for like nationality and not just that also, I think
Speaker:during meetups they both also told me and someone just
Speaker:basically volunteer that information. So I. So with that I've put all
Speaker:the stats together and I'm thinking, oh, okay, so this is what this, these are
Speaker:the people and members I'm working with and hence why there are some videos
Speaker:that I have to try and translate it or ask people
Speaker:to bring in an English version. And now people are aware that it's
Speaker:not everyone that speaks tree. People also can't hear tree, but can hear
Speaker:ga. Some people hear fantic clearer than
Speaker:they can tree as well. Yeah. The different dialects. So, yeah,
Speaker:that's been interesting. Okay. And these non
Speaker:Ghanaians that do come to your meetup, do they necessarily have an interest
Speaker:in Ghana or Accra to an extent, or they just purely want to network?
Speaker:No. An interest. I don't know anyone that's in the group that hasn't got an
Speaker:interest in Ghana. Everyone that comes in to this
Speaker:networking community has an interest
Speaker:of either giving back to Ghana or
Speaker:wanting to network with someone that can connect them to Ghana. So
Speaker:it's always that that relationship
Speaker:is happening. Beautiful, beautiful. And that's. That's one
Speaker:great thing about your meetup. I think it's been a vehicle or a
Speaker:bridge between the UK and Africa. I mean, Ghana's business in particular, which
Speaker:is great. Okay. And you started, I think, more than two years
Speaker:ago with maybe like 10 members. 10, 15 members, maybe you started off. I remember
Speaker:using my first ones. Adrian. Yeah,
Speaker:yeah. Came to
Speaker:words. Who actually registered interest to join. So. And
Speaker:how many do we have now today, in 20th, January 2020,
Speaker:how many do you have? The Isaac Gina on top of your head?
Speaker:From. From my last count, I think we're looking at around
Speaker:128, 127. Is that the WhatsApp group? That's just.
Speaker:WhatsApp group. That's purely basic. That's the
Speaker:WhatsApp group. The meetup group itself. I think the meetup is even
Speaker:more. More. Is it more? It's definitely more. I think we're looking at.
Speaker:If you look at the numbers. Do you got the numbers? So. So
Speaker:as of today, the one just joined just the second from
Speaker:Ghana. So. 149. Yeah. 159. Meetup.
Speaker:149. Oh, in the WhatsApp group. Yeah. Okay. And
Speaker:the meetup group, I think we're on 200 and something. Wow.
Speaker:250 from when I last checked. Huge. So it averages,
Speaker:I mean, 100 a year on average, isn't it? So that's impressive.
Speaker:It's. Yeah, I. I think. But for me, I think. Oh, I see other meetups
Speaker:and I think they're huge. They're bigger. These guys like to Talk.
Speaker:Actually, there's 149 participants who actively
Speaker:will go onto this WhatsApp group and want to actually
Speaker:either talk or just read.
Speaker:Yeah. So they're really active on this one. So that's
Speaker:shocking. Yeah, I'm aware. You set up. You
Speaker:had to start doing sub WhatsApp groups. Yeah. And you
Speaker:start. Had to. I mean, he got to. I mean, this is just shows how
Speaker:big your group, your meetup, your Movement club, whatever you want to call it, has
Speaker:grown. You had to establish subgroups and you then had to delegate
Speaker:some power to different team members. Talk us through
Speaker:some of the, the delegates. I mean, we have, we have some interesting
Speaker:managers. Isaac. Isaac. Seems
Speaker:like Isaac's been handed over the mic. I think he's going to help out in
Speaker:this situation. Yeah. I mean, even like.
Speaker:So I, I wasn't there from the beginning, the very, very beginning. I kind of
Speaker:joined maybe. I don't know if it was less than a year in or so
Speaker:I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:So I, I joined fairly early. Early ish. And in
Speaker:the space of time that I've been there, the growth, the growth I've witnessed
Speaker:personally has been insane. Like,
Speaker:and yeah, like with, with the amount of people that
Speaker:have joined and the amount and discussion we have
Speaker:in our WhatsApp groups, the kind of opportunities and
Speaker:services and things that we can do. Yeah. And offer
Speaker:to our members have just grown. Like, there's the demand for all sorts. Like for
Speaker:example, we had a SUU club, if you remember.
Speaker:And yeah, you know, we had, we had to set up a separate group for
Speaker:that. And we, we went through the, we did it. How long was it? A
Speaker:year. We stuck here. We stuck in for one year. So one
Speaker:year we had about 10, 10 core members who were
Speaker:less than a year in YGP. So they all kind of knew
Speaker:each other. Yeah. And it was just a,
Speaker:just like a trial to see just how we can support each other. It was
Speaker:a small amount of money, very small seed of money, but we wanted to just
Speaker:kind of just bring that culture of like, okay, this month
Speaker:you will, like, you will get £100. Yeah. To use to wherever you
Speaker:want and then you put in for somebody. And I must say, our group was
Speaker:really good. Like, we was very consistent. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't,
Speaker:I don't recall there being any issue with people paying when they needed to pay
Speaker:or anything like that. And just little
Speaker:kind of initiatives like that are just,
Speaker:you know, testament to the growth and the
Speaker:responsibility because like, if we want to, we can really
Speaker:push that concept and push that idea. And there's been
Speaker:discussions about maybe creating an app and
Speaker:digitalizing it, making everything a bit more automated so there's less manual
Speaker:input and like chasing people to, to make payment
Speaker:and like having something like a. You know, we've got loads of these fintech apps
Speaker:nowadays, so I'm sure there's a way in which we could, you know,
Speaker:you know, digitalize it and make it make it work. Yeah,
Speaker:so, yeah, so that I'm sure that that's going to be a project that somebody
Speaker:will have to kind of pick up and run with because Lucy's just got so
Speaker:much on her plate. Yeah, yeah, no, she's got huge,
Speaker:huge amounts of responsibility. Yeah. So we've got that, we,
Speaker:we had the SU initiative and also we've also got
Speaker:the, the YGP podcast, which is something that I'm, I'm quite
Speaker:quite closely linked with or some. It's a responsibility
Speaker:that's been delegated to me, should I say. So I, I,
Speaker:I feel like, you know, we have a lot of conversation and a lot of
Speaker:debate and what have you on WhatsApp.
Speaker:And you know, we, we need to have, I feel
Speaker:it'll be good to have a platform where we can sit down,
Speaker:have a round table discussion. You know, Fireside, I think they call it
Speaker:Fireside chats or whatever now. Yeah. Where you just kind of chew the
Speaker:fat and, and talk about some of the things that people are
Speaker:discussing on, on the YGP WhatsApp group.
Speaker:So yeah, so we, you know, we're in the process of like putting together some
Speaker:episodes that we'll be releasing sometime in the future. We're not sure yet,
Speaker:but yeah, that's coming out, you know, even on, from a
Speaker:WhatsApp perspective. So we've got quite a few WhatsApp channels. So specifically
Speaker:we have our WhatsApp social. Yeah. So that's just like
Speaker:a group for everybody to just discuss anything like,
Speaker:relevant for that time. Yeah. And then we have another chat,
Speaker:another group chat called the WhatsApp Promotional Promotions and
Speaker:Advertising. Yeah, group. I mean, yeah,
Speaker:yeah, so, so yeah, so that's Alex. Shout out
Speaker:to Alex, AKA
Speaker:yeah, Head of Events. So, so he's so
Speaker:ATO is one of, yeah, one of the, one of
Speaker:the, one of the kind of more vocal members and he's really,
Speaker:he's really active in the Ghanaian community. Like he, he knows of lots of
Speaker:events and yeah, a lot of the, a lot of the activities
Speaker:and stuff that are taking place he's aware of and he posts
Speaker:so people are kept up to speed with what's going on. Like your social,
Speaker:your social calendar will definitely be kept stocked, well
Speaker:stocked when, when ATO is around. So
Speaker:yeah, we've got, you know, the promotions and advertising group,
Speaker:Group chat, where also people can, if you, if you work in a particular field
Speaker:or if you've got like a side hustle or something that you do in a,
Speaker:in, in the background, it's an opportunity for you to showcase it,
Speaker:share it with, with people. And also like, if
Speaker:you, if you have a need for a particular service, it's great that you can
Speaker:reach out and say, look guys, I'm looking for xyz.
Speaker:Can you, can you, can you put me in touch with somebody? Is there someone
Speaker:you could recommend? And you know, there's bound, like just looking at some of the
Speaker:recent posts like you, you, you name it, somebody knows
Speaker:someone that can help you. So you, you, you definitely can
Speaker:benefit from the fact that we have such a kind of a wide stretch,
Speaker:far reaching network. So yeah, so it's growing,
Speaker:it's huge. And I'm excited because I feel like this is just the
Speaker:beginning and we're scratching the surface. It is the beginning. I mean, now I'm hearing
Speaker:talks about potential events in Accra, possibly
Speaker:just to reach out to maybe the diasporas out
Speaker:there or even the local nationals and try and do something
Speaker:that's bigger than ygp, isn't it? Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. And okay, now we're going
Speaker:to kind of make maybe more segue more into the, the actual
Speaker:meetup networking business side of things.
Speaker:Why did you focus on professionals? So young Ghanaian
Speaker:professionals. Why did you focus on the professionals? Because, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker:meetups. You just meet up, you chat your chat, but you chat and
Speaker:chat about certain things, but your focus was
Speaker:professionals. Yeah, I know there are
Speaker:probably a few meetups out there. They just maybe gone. Even
Speaker:Ghanaian ones. I think they more tend to just be having fun. Let's go and
Speaker:party, let's go and do this. Is that why maybe perhaps you focus more on
Speaker:the professionals or is that just something that just came to mind? Maybe you want
Speaker:to answer this, does that make
Speaker:sense? Yeah. And I get it. So the reason why the emphasis was on professionals,
Speaker:just like a young, like young Ghanaians meet up
Speaker:professionals, because I thought it'll bring a level of maturity, a
Speaker:level of intellect. Okay. I read a lot and I feel
Speaker:like for me, you see, when I was doing this, it was for me I
Speaker:was being quite selfish with this. I get really easy, I get
Speaker:bored when someone isn't kind of speaking in a way
Speaker:that I'm learning as well. Like there's only so much we can
Speaker:talk about with pop culture. I wanted to actually
Speaker:open my mind up to hear other, other
Speaker:viewpoints of a subject. So it was more on the
Speaker:intellectual side of the conversation. I thought it would be good to hear
Speaker:other intellectual conversations being had. Okay.
Speaker:Makes a lot more sense. Yeah. Because I've Been to quite a few meet ups
Speaker:and I'm like, I, the conversation is quite like, okay, I do
Speaker:this and then it just, it doesn't really. There
Speaker:is the discussion points isn't taking me to where I want to
Speaker:be. Not much substance in the conversation. Yeah, it's just quite, it's just like
Speaker:I've met a friend but what am I doing, my friend,
Speaker:you know. So I wanted, I, I wanted people that would bring value
Speaker:to my, to my life and to, well, to my life
Speaker:and if they can do that for me and they can do that for anyone
Speaker:else coming into this. So yeah, yeah, that was. And like, for
Speaker:me, like as a member that joined
Speaker:later on, I think, you know, as you mentioned there are like
Speaker:101 other meetup groups where it's kind of
Speaker:more of a social gathering and party.
Speaker:You know, you're by the bar, you're getting drinks, you're just talking about whatever.
Speaker:Yeah. And what appealed to me about YGP was the
Speaker:fact that it was focused at professionals. So, you know, you know, when you're
Speaker:coming to this, this meetup, it's going to be
Speaker:constructive. It's going to be, you're going to be around people who
Speaker:are. I'm a professional so I work, you know, professionally. So I
Speaker:was, I hoped that I'd come and be around like minded people, people who have
Speaker:careers, people who are educated, who have, you
Speaker:know, informed opinions about things, especially when it
Speaker:comes to Ghana. And that was the main appeal for me. And when I
Speaker:came I was happy to find that my expectations
Speaker:were if not exceeded. So, you know, I met a lot of people
Speaker:working on interesting projects and you know,
Speaker:you can go to networking events or you can go to professional
Speaker:meetups and what have you. But what was unique about this is, you
Speaker:know, I'm of Ghanaian heritage and now I'm meeting people who
Speaker:are experts in their various fields and they're, you know,
Speaker:doing great things and they have one thing in common, they're all
Speaker:Ghanaian and have a love for Ghana. Yeah. And to meet up with people
Speaker:like that for me was, was like icing on the cake. So.
Speaker:Brilliant. Yeah, that's, that's, that's what I felt was
Speaker:the kind of unique selling point about ygp. That's absolutely amazing.
Speaker:And what was I going to say?
Speaker:I just went blank there. It's true. Would you. Okay. Were you going
Speaker:to say something? No, I was going to just say no. Yeah, it's, you basically
Speaker:go into the networking events and you just don't know what
Speaker:you expect will it be what they say on the, on the, on the,
Speaker:on the advertisement. You just don't know who you're going to meet. So.
Speaker:Yeah, it's brilliant. Yeah, you just need to
Speaker:meet that expectation as well. So. Yeah. And
Speaker:what have you learned over the past two years of doing running
Speaker:meetups and stuff? Because, I mean, I did Diaspora
Speaker:Connect, my event in Ghana. Diaspora Connect. I would, I won't lie to you, I
Speaker:think you inspired me to start that and I felt like when I do that
Speaker:event, I always feel like it's an extension of ygp because I, I
Speaker:refer people to YGP anyway. But
Speaker:I've learned the more I do events, the better I get at it. You know,
Speaker:just in terms of attendance, people not coming, or people say they'll be
Speaker:there and not turn up. And maybe if it's paid events.
Speaker:I know you think you got your first paid event coming up, which is great.
Speaker:You know what, let me just interject there. I didn't want to
Speaker:do any paid events. I was told to charge. I think you
Speaker:should. Why not? People told me and I last meet up that.
Speaker:Charge us. Yeah, charge us. I was like, yeah,
Speaker:you've given us enough value for the past two years or so. It's time to.
Speaker:It's time to. It's time for payday. And that's. That's how it, that's how it
Speaker:should be, Lucy. Okay. That's how it should be. I think you deserve it.
Speaker:Well, thank you, guys. Yeah, you deserve it. You deserve. You put this hard work
Speaker:into it. Why not get paid for it? You know, it may not be much,
Speaker:but it's. You know, he's just gonna get you home. Right? But get me back
Speaker:to Kent.
Speaker:Go back to Old Kent Road. Hold tight. Monopoly.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. But also, but honestly, how do you, I mean, do you.
Speaker:How do you manage the highs and the lows of people turning up or not
Speaker:turning up and, and managing the meetups and stuff? Because
Speaker:I've kind of experienced that when I've planned the events in Accra.
Speaker:People management, I mean, I,
Speaker:I always think even if there's three of us, I will definitely
Speaker:have a good time. Like, you know, I. With numbers, you
Speaker:tend to have to just get it out of your head because otherwise it will
Speaker:drive you crazy. And when you expect numbers to come, they don't come. You're like,
Speaker:okay, but for me, because I'm naturally like, quite. I'm
Speaker:quite happy. And for everything I do, I also pray about it as well. So
Speaker:that's one thing that calms Me down. I think without praise, I think I would
Speaker:have been very stressed out. But, you know,
Speaker:I don't. If I, if, if I do meet up and let's say
Speaker:20 people say they're coming and I get three people that turn
Speaker:up. Yeah. Believe you me, us three are gonna, we're gonna have such a
Speaker:good time. I remember we actually, there was one, There was one meal
Speaker:for Bournemouth and it was like, X amount of people said they're coming. So many
Speaker:people are coming. Even I dropped out on that one. It was less because. And
Speaker:this was time where I think football was playing and other activities was happening in
Speaker:that time period. So. But it was the most. It was. I think it was
Speaker:like five, five of us in the end that went to Bournemouth and it was
Speaker:so fun. We used to go, oh, my goodness. Just.
Speaker:These are four. Well, these girls. Four girls that didn't know each other.
Speaker:And it was just really fun. Like, I absolutely was like, actually, this is actually
Speaker:better with this amount of people. I can relate to you. When I
Speaker:did Diaspora Connect in January 2020,
Speaker:Isaac, you were there, right? Yeah. I had over 100
Speaker:people for the event and signed up overall, but only
Speaker:25 turned up. So that's like a 25 conversion rate. But
Speaker:I was still happy in the numbers because we were still having. Was still able
Speaker:to have some kind of round table, kind of nice discussion.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean, from my perspective, I, I see things as.
Speaker:When it comes to, like, looking, you know, when you're
Speaker:arranging meetups and stuff like this, it's more of a
Speaker:quality over quantity. So you could have a whole bunch of people
Speaker:turn up and there's not really good conversations taking
Speaker:place. There's not an exchange of ideas. There's not. It's.
Speaker:Is not benefiting anybody. You've got the numbers, but there's not much
Speaker:happening, like, in terms of helping each other. But then you
Speaker:can have something more intimate where it's maybe five to 10 people or what have
Speaker:you, but the quality of conversation and,
Speaker:and what people are getting out of it and how people leave,
Speaker:how people feel when they leave that, that, that, that's. That that event
Speaker:is far higher or far more positive than if it was like
Speaker:hundreds of people. So, yeah, I see it
Speaker:as like, I can understand why Lucy doesn't really get phased by the numbers and
Speaker:what have you, because the quality over the quantity is the main thing. And when
Speaker:you have that mindset, you'll always be content. No matter how many people turn
Speaker:up each week or each meet up. I guess it does take two to
Speaker:tango. And I just want to go back to when you guys were talking about,
Speaker:you know, in terms of the future of YGP or what's happening right now in
Speaker:terms of maybe building apps, websites, directories,
Speaker:you know, just maybe a hub for Ghanaians or YGP
Speaker:where they can get services or products, etc. It really
Speaker:does take a village, you know, it really does to
Speaker:put things like this together. And the community at
Speaker:ygp, as an attendant myself, from that
Speaker:perspective is it's always welcoming, which I do love. And
Speaker:I have to thank you for always being good in terms of
Speaker:organizing, making happen. Okay, so just a couple more questions.
Speaker:So what do you think? So just on the. While we're
Speaker:talking about just networking and meetups as a. In general, what would
Speaker:you guys say in terms of networking? What are your
Speaker:tips in terms of just, just going to network an event and just
Speaker:maybe making the most of it. From what you, Lucy and Isaac, you
Speaker:yourself, perhaps you've learned so far, what would you think has been,
Speaker:you know, usual keys for you to have a good time
Speaker:networking or get to know people? What have you kind of picked up?
Speaker:What works for you? Or you just go in and you just,
Speaker:you just go with the flow? You just go the flow.
Speaker:Do you tend to go in with a plan or you just go with the
Speaker:flow? I have a structure
Speaker:in place. Everyone can see that on meetup. Go
Speaker:in and I just follow that structure. And
Speaker:if anything, I try and
Speaker:let people relax. Yeah, I think I want to bring
Speaker:that, like relax. I try. I even try and
Speaker:speak tree in between. I try and put like
Speaker:things that are familiar to when you are at home with
Speaker:family members. And I literally try and just say, right,
Speaker:we'll take off the tie and the suit. Let's just chill. So I
Speaker:come in with a structure and I come with a chill approach because it's not
Speaker:that deep. After five or after six, we finish work. Yeah. And
Speaker:I don't, I don't, I don't think I've seen, I don't think I've seen anybody
Speaker:say, actively hand out cards. No, no,
Speaker:not really. Not really. Not really. Yeah,
Speaker:Details and whatnot. But it's not like, you know, these power. Yeah,
Speaker:it's like hard speed dating, like, you know, corporate
Speaker:speed dating where everyone's like, has to speak to everybody and, you know,
Speaker:you know, pitch their idea. It's not really a kind of salesy
Speaker:network. I think that's what draws people to it. It's not really that kind
Speaker:of networking environment. It's more kind of relaxed, which is what you said before. What
Speaker:kind of professions would you say typically is one that people would find at
Speaker:ygp? What's like the most typical profession? Because Bry's like
Speaker:we have, we have people in every field you can think
Speaker:of. Like we've got scientists, we've got
Speaker:accountants, lawyers, bankers.
Speaker:This guy who does aero
Speaker:aeronautics. Wow. The other thing even I think it's something to do with
Speaker:planes I guess. Okay. Or space.
Speaker:It could be. So this is why when I see these professions come,
Speaker:I'm like, have you ever. Yeah, you're right. Scientists, doctors. We have doctors in, in
Speaker:the building now. Not one, not two, but I think you have three or four.
Speaker:And these are actually within medical field and also in
Speaker:fields of I think law as well. But we have well
Speaker:seasoned from all industry, even going into
Speaker:agriculture as well. We have architects in the building. We
Speaker:have yeah. Bankers. But the most popular ones is
Speaker:finance and tech. Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker:I fall into that one of those categories. So yeah, I'm
Speaker:testament to that being. And like we also have like
Speaker:a student community that we've got a couple of people doing their PhDs. So
Speaker:like we've got people, we have some intel. Yeah.
Speaker:We've got news. We've got really intelligent people doing like
Speaker:huge, huge things in their fields. It's. It's
Speaker:inspiring. You like you come to a meetup and you speak to some of these
Speaker:people and you hear what they're doing. You're like, oh man, I need to up
Speaker:my game. Like these guys are doing big things. Yeah. And I think that's what
Speaker:you hit the net. That's what you did really well Lucy with
Speaker:giving it the younger name professionals meetup name. What
Speaker:you've actually done without realizing is you probably filtered out all the people that
Speaker:just want to have fun and party and just do the usual stuff.
Speaker:Yeah. So you've just brought, you've just attracted just serious people with. I do
Speaker:screen people. Believe it or not guys, I am actually the massive
Speaker:gatekeeper when it comes to things like this. You guys don't see behind the work.
Speaker:I don't sleep, I don't sleep on meet up. Meet up. I get so
Speaker:many requests and I look at people's profiles like what are similar
Speaker:interests and yeah, I am a gatekeeper. I will remove you.
Speaker:Wow. Like does that happen? Yeah, actually I've removed
Speaker:and I've also banned people from meetup group as well. Is that
Speaker:they don't turn up or what's the criteria? It's Just it's, it's,
Speaker:it's, I guess is maybe the youngness,
Speaker:the professionalism. Yeah. And the Garnier. So
Speaker:if, if you, if you come up and you're just here
Speaker:to just say you're just networking. The thing is I don't want
Speaker:any, I don't want anyone to confuse or to
Speaker:disturb the order that's happening. So I do, I
Speaker:do do filters behind the scenes. I do have people that will ask me,
Speaker:Lucy, is it okay if I do this? Because you can see there's a calmness
Speaker:in the group. Yeah. I don't want anyone to feel out of place.
Speaker:I'm quick to interject if I feel someone's being bullied or the
Speaker:conversation is going left, I'll quickly be like, no. So I do a lot of
Speaker:screening and just. Yeah. Making sure that the order of
Speaker:conversation is pg.
Speaker:Light hearted. Yeah. And no bullying at all. It's
Speaker:not nice. That's important. Surely we haven't. Surely
Speaker:that's important. We're lucky in the sense that most of the people that are in
Speaker:the group chat, everyone's people have
Speaker:their different opinions and believe you me, we have heated debates like
Speaker:you bring things like religion, politics, you name it. It can get
Speaker:like. People can really get passionate about their,
Speaker:their points of view, which is fine. Like we, we, we're different
Speaker:people. Everyone's going to have a different idea and perspective of things. So
Speaker:we, we welcome that. But yeah, from what
Speaker:I've seen and from, from, from what I know, everyone remains respectful
Speaker:and that's the, your, your difference of opinion.
Speaker:But so long as you respect one another then you know you're welcome to have
Speaker:those debates and differences of opinion. Brilliant.
Speaker:Imagine pulling all of these professionals, doctors,
Speaker:aeronautics, we've got bankers, finance,
Speaker:fintech people. Education's here please. Business people,
Speaker:education, education professionals. Shout out to Lucy.
Speaker:Imagine putting all these people and putting them on the plane. A BA one way,
Speaker:a 2000 pound BA flight to Accra and
Speaker:making a change. What do you think we could do with all of that? We
Speaker:could do a whole lot. Right. That's correct. Amazing. And
Speaker:finally, what do you think has been the success to the growth of
Speaker:YGP both? You could answer that. One of you could answer
Speaker:that. I'm happy. So I
Speaker:see it from a different perspective from Lucy because she started
Speaker:it but as like a member or. No. Yeah. Or one of the.
Speaker:Not found him but one of the veterans. Should I say you're a veteran now,
Speaker:Isaac? Yeah, I mean for me,
Speaker:for me it's, I think one of the successes is just
Speaker:that the genuineness of the group. Like it's, it's not here.
Speaker:We're not, we've not, it's not been started or. We're
Speaker:not here to make money from people. We're not trying to, you
Speaker:know, take advantage of people or jump on a bandwagon or
Speaker:you know, there's a craze. Oh yeah, let's. People are getting interested in Ghana. How
Speaker:can we capitalize on it? Yeah, that's not the intention of ygp.
Speaker:Yeah, we just want to connect people who are of like
Speaker:mind who have number one, a love for Ghana, an
Speaker:interest in Ghana, you know, who want to help
Speaker:uplift the continent and bring their
Speaker:skills and what they have, what they can contribute and, and,
Speaker:and, and find, you know, a network of people that they can reach out
Speaker:to when they need things like, you know, if you need
Speaker:different services. We want to be able to have a community where we can invest
Speaker:in our own so the money can remain within like you look at
Speaker:some of the communities like the Jewish communities, Asian communities, like
Speaker:the money circulates within those communities several times before it
Speaker:leaves. Yeah, we want to be able to replicate that within, you know,
Speaker:ygp, you know, within Ghana. Like we want that kind of culture of
Speaker:we buy from ourselves, we support one another, we uplift one another. When
Speaker:people have their business ventures, we support, we promote, we
Speaker:invest. You know, we just want to be able to enable people
Speaker:to, you know, achieve their goals and their ambitions
Speaker:and have them do the same for us. So I think that's one of the
Speaker:key, the key achievements
Speaker:of ygp from my perspective, pretty powerful. Yeah. I
Speaker:think and I would only say these things we do, we do do
Speaker:it. Absolutely. In December, Christmas we had, we went
Speaker:to a YGP's members restaurant
Speaker:and there was a high turnout. There's like over 20 plus
Speaker:members and I would say the majority, like 90
Speaker:was YGP members wanting to support this girl's
Speaker:restaurant. Yeah. And we traveled to
Speaker:where was, when was it held again? I think. Is it Wolfenstein,
Speaker:Stephanie's restaurant? Yeah. So from Kent to Wolvenstone,
Speaker:guys. Oh Kent. Okay. From
Speaker:Kent to Wolvenstone, that was a journey. But I do this and
Speaker:I wanted to be part of this, this meetup because
Speaker:we are supporting our own. So now we have a place to go and eat
Speaker:now you see and I think that's amazing. And then now there
Speaker:are other things coming that we want to support. We are
Speaker:putting together a wedding now I hear a one stop
Speaker:wedding. I hear looking for the bride and groom now,
Speaker:everything else but the groom. We have everything you would
Speaker:need within the group to get ready for your wedding. It's a little bubble,
Speaker:isn't it? Yeah, it's like. And it's amazing because before, I don't
Speaker:think our parents could have, like,
Speaker:have a network maybe in Seven sisters,
Speaker:loads of Ghanaians. Yeah. But Edmonton as well, you see,
Speaker:but in literally in communities, in, on
Speaker:a platform, usually it's not that idea, like what
Speaker:might be saying, circulating these talents and just
Speaker:investing whilst getting married. I hope I'm able to invest in all of
Speaker:these, all these talents and all of these
Speaker:outlets as well. Yeah. But it's just reassuring that we have this.
Speaker:If I go to NHS right now, I have a doctor there that's,
Speaker:That's Ghanaian and she's on this network, you
Speaker:know. And if I was to go to a university, there's students there
Speaker:that are not just doing their masters, but they're doing
Speaker:their doctorate, they're doing their PhD. So, yeah, no matter
Speaker:where I am going, I feel like, well,
Speaker:there is somebody. There's a YGP member either
Speaker:there or will be there now. That's powerful and
Speaker:that just shows where we're going with this. Exactly. I think you've just
Speaker:answered that one, which I have no problem.
Speaker:That'd be so cool. But, yeah, yeah. See what the future has. Lucy,
Speaker:what does Accra. When someone says accra to you, what. What comes to
Speaker:mind? Oh, wow. I just see colors. I see
Speaker:colors, I see brightness. I see. I see food
Speaker:that I, I want to eat.
Speaker:I see happiness, I see joy. I see. I'm, I'm
Speaker:back home. I lived in Ghana for five years, guys, when I was younger, so
Speaker:the smell, obviously, as a young kid, memories will
Speaker:fade at times, but what doesn't fade is feelings
Speaker:and smell of food. You know, you always remember that.
Speaker:So for me, I was a massive foodie when I was in Ghana, still am
Speaker:now, and, and Accra is
Speaker:Touchdown. Actually cried when I went back to Ghana for the,
Speaker:for the first time after leaving there, I
Speaker:cried. I was like, I felt,
Speaker:wow, this is what home feels like. I felt
Speaker:like I'm home. People here, we all look the
Speaker:same. No one even cares, to be honest. But it's
Speaker:just your home. You're free. People wearing slippers,
Speaker:like tops, you know, everyone's just smiling. It's busy,
Speaker:is, ah, it's home. I heard even one person
Speaker:that came to Ghana since I think maybe 15
Speaker:years or something said that. Yeah, she doesn't remember seeing this many black
Speaker:People. Which is. Which is remarkable.
Speaker:That just shows how long you haven't been to an African country. And
Speaker:Isaac, what about you? What is. When someone says accra, what does it mean to
Speaker:you? What comes to mind but this
Speaker:vibrancy, life energy. I just like
Speaker:people. I see people busy hustling, you know, moving,
Speaker:doing things. And traffic.
Speaker:Traffic, that's a big one. I cry. That's a big one. You can't miss that
Speaker:one. Yeah, yeah, I see. I see.
Speaker:Whenever, you know, whenever you touch down and then you just get off the plane
Speaker:and you get that heat that hits you. Yeah, it's just,
Speaker:wow, I'm back. You know, I'm back and I just. Just say,
Speaker:yeah. As Lucy said, it feels like home. It feels. Yeah. Feels natural.
Speaker:You feel like a. Just a person, not a black
Speaker:person. Yeah, exactly. You do feel safe, you know, you feel like you just
Speaker:a person. You're not a black person. You're not, you know,
Speaker:a minority. You're just one of. Of many other
Speaker:beautiful black men, women and children, you
Speaker:know, roaming on the continent. That's it. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay. I do agree with you. The safe. The safe thing.
Speaker:I do feel that a lot of people say that it's quite uncommon.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay. I'd like to thank
Speaker:YGP Lucy founder
Speaker:Isaac Elder for coming on the show. For coming
Speaker:the show. I really appreciate your time. Time now just to wrap
Speaker:up the show. Where can people find out
Speaker:more about ygp? How can they get in touch? You knew this was coming.
Speaker:What's the best way? What's the best way? Oh, you have to give them all
Speaker:the ways. I would say I'll put in the show notes anyway.
Speaker:All the ways they can hunt you down. I would say the quickest
Speaker:way is Google and just type in young Ghanaian professionals on.
Speaker:Just on Google. We would be the first Meetup link
Speaker:there and then just join from there. You can join our
Speaker:WhatsApp link there. And I am working on
Speaker:the website. I promise
Speaker:you, 2020. I wasn't expecting this much growth in a short
Speaker:space of time. Even though you guys like, it's two years, Lucy, come on. Website
Speaker:lose usually in the first month or so. But I was just chilling. I
Speaker:was like, oh, it's only. Oh, it's only 10 of us here.
Speaker:Here's our numbers. We don't need no website for this.
Speaker:Everyone's like, where's the website, Lucy? I'm like,
Speaker:so, yeah, I think just Google young Ghanaian professionals and you'll see on
Speaker:Meetup link, you, you know, it's us because you, you
Speaker:know, it's us. There's a picture,
Speaker:there's a picture there. So, you know, it's us. But yeah, start from there and
Speaker:then join the, on, on the discussion board, there
Speaker:is a YGP link and then, yeah, come on,
Speaker:come over and join the discussion. Awesome. Amazing.
Speaker:And before I let this show end, is there anything,
Speaker:any announcements, any messages you wanted to put out there to the,
Speaker:to t he community out there, the listeners?
Speaker:Let's support Ghana and Africa.
Speaker:Yeah, we have a lot of skill sets between us
Speaker:and we start this by having discussions. I make notes, we all
Speaker:make notes actually. Unless I think let's unite,
Speaker:we can do it as a group, not as individuals.
Speaker:Yeah, that's a big point to echo that, I think.
Speaker:Yeah, you know, there's Africa and Ghana
Speaker:has a lot to offer us, so let's not. I think we should,
Speaker:we should understand the value and the gift. I think for
Speaker:me personally, it's a privilege to be a Ghanaian. You know, it's like
Speaker:I find, I find being a Ghanaian one of the greatest
Speaker:gifts because the country is so beautiful,
Speaker:our people are so peaceful, so beautiful.
Speaker:I feel like, yeah, if we, if we, you know, here in the
Speaker:diaspora can combine and bring together our
Speaker:skills, the things that we can, we can bring of value that
Speaker:can help progress the country, progress the continent,
Speaker:then, yeah, we should do so. So, yeah, just
Speaker:understand everybody has a part to play and
Speaker:be committed. Excellent.
Speaker:Well, there you have it. Thank you, Lucy Natic, once again, Young Ghanaian
Speaker:Professionals UK 2020 for doing this. Once
Speaker:again. Guys, you can get all the show notes by going onto
Speaker:the website, the sound of accra.com I
Speaker:go by the name Adrian Daniels and I'll speak to you in the
Speaker:next one. Bye
Speaker:bye,
Speaker:Sam.