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When we started LCC Connect in 2022, our aim was to create a podcast network that connects our college with the community and our community with the college. Since then, we've expanded to offer more than 30 podcasts, all of which are hosted by members of Lansing Community College or community activists. This is Dedalien, General manager for LCC Connect, and on this episode of behind the Connection, we feature a chat with the host of a new podcast called Ripper. The host of the program is Terri Denise. She's currently a Lansing Community College student and one of the winners of our annual contest called the podcast Power Up. Her podcast premieres on LCC Connect Tuesday, September 30th. It'll be available for listening@lccconnect.com or on your favorite podcast streaming service. Now let's get behind the scenes and find out what's happening behind the Connection with Terry, Denise and Ripper. You were one of our podcast Power up winners, and it's awesome to have you be a part of what we're doing.

Well, thank you.

One of the questions that we have on our form that the podcast Power up contestants fill out, tell us a fun fact about yourself. Yours was an interesting answer, and I kept meaning to ask you about it. Do you even remember what you answered?

Actually, please tell me I danced the

biggest soul train line in the world. Was your answer to fun fact. Is this true?

This is very true.

I want to know the backstory. How'd this happen?

So I can't remember exactly what year it was. It was somewhere around 20, maybe 11. I was in Chicago. I had a relationship with somebody that was in Chicago who was a transplant, actually, from the Tri county area of Washington. And we were downtown hanging out, and we did not know what was going on. We just saw and heard a lot of music happening, and it was very loud. And I was actually taking a couple photographs of him so he could use for some online thing, I think. And then I had him posing in front of some. Some fence or something. I was like, what is going on right now? And I finally looked and I was like, I'm pretty sure that's Don Cornelius on that big old stage in the middle of Chicago right now. What is happening? So it was Don Cornelius. It was a Soul TR event. It was like an anniversary event.

Okay.

And literally just nothing but funk, soul, R and B. Everybody having a great time in the middle of Chicago area. I don't know. It might have been in Millennium Park. It was definitely in one of the huger parks in the area. And it was just. People just drown about.

So was that their goal was to build the longest soul train?

I don't know. But they did do it. There were thousands of people in this line. It was just a mass amount of people that just joined in a soul train line. And no matter where you were now,

were they doing it like, you know, like the locomotion? Were they doing it like, just kind of just doing their own dance? What was happening there?

Well, you know, there were a lot of. Well, you know, there's a lot of strutting going on because once you hit a certain age and your back is not doing the same thing that once you can go down into the splits and then come back up while skating like they used to be able to do on the dance floor.

I'm somebody that could tell you a little bit about that. Go on.

Yes, there was definitely a lot of, like, peacock strutting going on, but a lot of just. Yeah, a lot of hustle moves. We'll just say so.

Would you consider yourself a dancer?

Yes.

All right.

All right.

I mean, music seems to be a big part of your life, really. You volunteer your time at festivals. On your first episode, you talk a little bit about singing in a doom metal band.

Yeah, actually.

Is that legit? And is that still happening?

Okay, so. Yes, it is legit. I'm actually in the encyclopedia of metal that you can find online under the name Terry Brown. There's tons of bands that you can look up if you're ever wanting to see what bands from Lansing ever existed that were in the metal scene or how many bands are connected to this and this person from that and everything like that. But the band name that I named the band, Cruhu C R U T H U, which is a Gaelic word for basically mother or earth mother.

Okay.

As I was taking it, I was the lead singer of this band for a little bit around, like, 2014. Then one day the guys in the band showed up at my front door with my amp and said, we're going in a new direction, and then replace me with a male singer. So I am not in the band anymore. But they kept the name of the band, which is funny. I was searching for a name that had something to do with Earth, something had to do with Mother. And then I just was like, what's the thing that can connect us all in this band? And I just did my DNA genetic 23andMe thing, and I found out that I was Brits Isle Celtics Gaelic. I was like. And then one of the band members Always, like, talked about how he was Irish or he loved, like, Phil Lynott and everything. Like the.

Yeah, the Thin Lizzy.

Thin Lizzy. So that was, like, a huge influence as well on everybody. So I was, like, trying to, like. I'm like, okay, all right, cool. Irish, Gaelic, Scottish thing going on here. Brick, Celt isle, whatever. And I was like. Was really looking into different kinds of languages at the time. So Gaelic was one of those dictionaries that I picked up at one of the local libraries. And I was like, I just found that word. And apparently there is another band named Kruhu.

Oh, really?

Yes, but they're more of a, like, folk band, but they're actually Irish. So technically, as a former member of the American Kuruhu. And then there's the Irish.

So did they spell it the same?

Yes.

Oh, okay. Because you know that's the story behind Megadeth, right? No, that's why it's spelled with a D, E, T, H, because there was already a Megadeth out there. So, yeah. Interesting. So that had to be a little disappointing to kind of get booted out of the band. Did you find yourself a new place to go then?

People found me a lot.

So you're still out there singing?

Yeah, actually.

Why do metal?

I love doom metal. I'm a big. I love metal as a.

And everybody's definition of music genres varies. So you defined based on bands that people would know. What would you define as doom metal?

So I'd say the great, great influencer on heavy metal would be Jimi Hendrix. And the way that he took his inspiration and his experience of being not only in doo wop or old soul bands, jazz bands and everything like that, but what he took and electrified it and then psychedelicity it. That's not a word.

But it's okay to make up words. Making up words is fun, but the

fact that he himself was already in soul bands and everything like that, and then took it to a completely different way that nobody heard. Nobody heard what he was doing with music ever. And he was his own enterprise. Had to go over to Europe to actually get popular. Which seems to be a similar thread going on with a lot of brown Americans throughout the many years. But not only that, that influenced a lot of people over there to start their own bands. And they were like, I love the Beatles, but I also love whatever this guy is doing. So let me mix it all together. So his style of playing influenced other bands to also start going. Hitting the fuzz pedals, really.

So you are calling Hendrix your original Doomer.

He is your original. Well, if we're going to my original metal influence, like the very first thing that I heard the album that got put in front of my face when I was a 65 year old little first grader at kindergarten, that would have been Striper To Hell with the devil that my mom brought into that.

See, that would be one. I, as a metal guy, I would not describe that as doom metal in one any way, shape or form.

Are you kidding me? The title, I mean, I guess the actual album is called To Hell with the Devil.

And for anybody not familiar with the band Striper, they are Christian rock band from the 80s.

They're definitely metal.

And I would call hair metal more than anything.

They were definitely glam metal.

Glam, Yes.

I would stare at the album covers all of the time. Just like, why is everybody so amazing looking? One of the guitarists, I think it was Mad Fox or something, he had like a little controller on his suit and outfit that looks like kind of Darth Vader's little control box on his costume. And I was just. They were like doing space agey metal weirdness, but also Christian. It's just. It's all the way around. Very, very, like heart driven. This is in your face, in your ear of that kind. But it's not.

I guess I'm glad I asked you the question because I would not have thought of Stryper being in your lineup of influences, so.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, you know, but at the age of five, six, I mean, it had to be a completely new thing. So it kind of like blew your mind to hear this music?

It blew my mind. It also terrified me, but it blew my mind. If you actually get a chance to look at the COVID of To Hell with the Devil, you can see why, like, it's definitely doom. It just might not be in the kind of way and perspective that everybody thinks of kind of doom metal. But they are talking about literally the rapture and the end of the world.

See, I'm going to call Hieronymus Bosch the original doom guy than doom metal guy. Because I always. Anytime you see the Garden of Earthly Delights, anytime I've ever looked at that, I've been like, man, this is some tortured stuff going on.

There's some hilarious stuff in there too.

There is.

There is, yeah.

Lots of little gremlins running around like spanking people.

Right, right.

So you actually are here to talk with me a little bit about Ripper, your podcast coming up September 30th. It's going to premiere on LCC Connect. You are one of our podcast Power up folks. And for people that aren't familiar with that, we do a little contest every year, reaching out to the students, inviting them to be a part of our LCC Connect Network. And you were one of our winners. So tell me a little bit about the experience. What's it been like going from start to finish? Well. Or should we say start to continuation?

Continuation, yes. Actually, I was inspired by a posting. One of the electronic boards throughout the school flashed a posting about a contest, and I was like, I really need something to do. Also, I was originally going to try to get involved with WL and Z years ago.

As LCC Radio. Yeah.

Yeah, as LCC Radio. I was interested in trying to get on air somehow and making my own show. And I wanted to play like a lot of local music and some bands and some bands that I was in and some bands of friends of mine and everything like that. And then it just never happened. So I saw the posting and I was like, maybe I should just put. I'll just randomly put in this thing and see if it works out.

Did I brush you off or did I tell you to come back?

You told me to come back. And I still have a card of yours, I believe.

Okay, good.

Well, it's good to know I was at least friendly, which is usually my MO anyway. I'm usually like that. But I'm always trying to give people an idea of what we're doing here at LCC Connect. So can you kind of help people understand how we've been supporting you in the process?

So definitely I am able to. As long as there's studio time, I can book. And that actually just helps at all. Just having a place to come to, to be in a very professional setting. New knowing that I can show up and things are set up, there's a mic that's ready for me to go beyond the recording. There's just knowing that there's editing going on in a particular way and everything like that, and that I don't have to necessarily tear my hair out about every single little bit of everything. I can just come in and get started and practice and form my way of approaching how I still want to formulate the topics that I want to talk about or even just whatever randomness I want to have in any particular time. Knowing that I have the ability to do that and that I have the freedom to do that is great. That's a huge support. Knowing that being able to actually be comfortable enough to ask questions without feeling like I'm out of my element or anything like that. So I don't feel like I'm ever being talked down to, like, oh, you don't know what this is? Or anything like that. No, it's absolutely not that it's a very. Seeing as how we're in an educational surrounding at all, I think that helps as well, because there's just a base of being able to come in and figure things out as you go along and learn the process and learn if there's more areas that you're interested in. And you've been very supportive. I know there's a lot going on with remaking and rebuilding a lot of different things around the area, but you are cool as a cucumber about everything, which also helps stave off any kind of like, well, what am I going to talk about today? And everything like that. And I come in and it's just like, chill.

I appreciate the kudos. That's not what that question was about, of course, but it is very good to hear that you're having a positive experience. Experience. And it is helpful in me kind of helping explain to others exactly what we're trying to do here. Because this is not necessarily a place for somebody who has that background in broadcasting, although you do have a little background in communications to a degree. It's not necessarily for that. It's for people to not only, I'd say, jump out of their comfort zone a little bit and then at the same time, learn in the process. So everybody that I'm working with, they aren't pros. So it's great to see you're finding it a positive experience and you're learning from it. Let's talk about the name Ripper.

Okay.

That's a really broad term. And really, we got to try to figure out what exactly does this title mean to you? What are you trying to say with Ripper?

All right, so I did. Yes. There's an acronym associated with Ripper that I put together. I will tell you straight up. It's. This is gonna go right back to the music and metal. I'm a big Judas Priest fan, and I was listening to one of the albums, and there's a song called the Ripper on it, which is, of course, about Jack the Ripper, but there's a song called Ripper on it, and I was like, ooh, I like. That really speaks to me. I really like, you know, the fall and Halloween and everything like that. And it kind of came together in my brain about, like, how I can rip off The. I'm sorry, I started that completely incorrectly. What I meant was to rip things off of like a seal. So like opening a seal and me being the kind of maniac I can be sometimes, it's kind of like just tearing things apart in certain ways that I might say things.

I like that you refer to yourself as a maniac. So did you establish what the acronym stands for?

I did. I actually.

You still don't know, do you?

No. Well, I wrote it down. I have my. I have my folder here. So it's. It was so our was randomness. So that would be me coming in with, just talking about whatever was off the top of my head that day. If, like, I ran into some weird traffic, I'd be like, you know what we need, yada, yada, yada, this thing and that thing. And then just being like silly about it and then going into the fact that, like, I'm related to the actual traffic stop maker.

Okay, okay.

It's like my grandfather's cousin or something. Anyway, and then just going from that point on into if I'm going to have an interview that day, have an interview segment. So that'd be the I. The first P then would be. I believe I saw that was going to be talking about. Actually, I don't have it in front of me. There's two P's obviously in there. But one was going to. I'm just going to be. I'm going to straight shot to E. E was going to be about entertainment and then R was going to be about revising or revisiting other things. Do you have the.

I don't have it handy. I don't.

I have my notes. I really do. I know I went over it in one of the sessions, so.

Well, by September 30th, we'll have that thought organized and we will have it ready to go and people will know what ripper stands for.

I'm in the weird lull right now where today it was like, oh, I saw a butterfly. And that's literally what's on my brain.

You saw a butterfly?

Very Homer Simpson esque.

It's not at all. I think that's a beautiful thing. Well, you said interviews, so what type of folks are you hoping to have on the show? Because you haven't had too many yet. A lot of what you've done is solo, which I think has been great. But what are you looking to as far as an interview goes?

So I did have an interview with a friend that I had from many years ago, from our elementary days. She's local again and she was doing some somatic yoga. I had a dance class and she's doing other things, but she's also a dj and since I love music and I just wanted to explore many other different types of ways of perspectives of looking at things. So her name is DJ Bigim or Emily Wolinsky, and she's from East Lansing as well.

Okay.

And she also was talking about, like, connecting astrological cosmic events with the somatic dancing that she was doing events for. The events are still going on the last I knew, but I wanted to get her back in to get a better interview going and have a refresher and seeing where she's at with that now. Cause she was just starting out with everything, and I did not want to premiere just in case that she, much like myself, was gonna be, like, kind of changing a little bit what I was doing.

And she did actually, by the time. And it might be one of those ones that we never get to use, which does happen in the world of what we do.

True. So with that, that's like the kind of.

But you're planning on having her back?

Oh, yeah, definitely. So beyond that, there are other local persons and personalities that I would love to bring in and have them talk about the different events that they are going to be putting on or already working on right now. Just a lot of people that I know, I'm kind of one of those weird, extrovert, introverted people where, like, it's

not as weird as you think. Trust me.

Yeah. Okay. So, like, when I get out there, I can really talk to anybody.

You're talking to a cat that has no problem getting up on a stage and announcing. But you put me in a party environment with a bunch of people, and I have a terrible time reaching out and just saying, hi, I'm new, blah, blah, blah.

It's like, I'm gonna stand over by the wall. Cool.

Anyway, not nearly as weird as you think you are.

Excellent. So, yeah, there's. So I end up meeting a lot of people. And especially with volunteering, you meet a

lot of different people.

You start to learn, like, how there's different people in different circuits. There's the MICA events that happen and whatnot. With the Blues Fest and Jazz Fest and everything like that. People will come back and do those things as volunteers. And also the folk festivals and everything like that. You start to learn real quickly that there's a different kind of way to connect to people, and it's not based on your personal relationship with those people. Is based on how are we going to help today, where are we at? How are we going to put this show on, where can I be at to help and everything like that. Instead of thinking about how much are we going to make today and what are our expenses and all that kind of stuff, it's kind of like you don't have to really concentrate on that too much. You're just there to help energize and keep things running and functioning and then also have a smile on your face and enjoy, be entirely inviting and welcoming.

So you think a lot of the folks you'll have are kind of personal connections?

Definitely. And then there's some kind of way to connect them to my life. And for me, personally, I love when people get to explain what their life is all about. I love listening to other people tell their stories, and I love being able to have a way for people to have their platform on my platform.

Right, on your platform.

Right.

This is the A platform.

So, yeah, I'm kind of always been that way, even when I go to a show or something like that, and just always like the random screaming cheerleader in the crowd. And like, yes, I know you made that mistake, but keep going. I mean, I don't say that out loud, but.

Right.

It's just like, just. Yes. Everything you're doing.

I mean, speaking of which, okay, so you kind of went through this process, and I would love for you to explain to other students who want to find their voice, whether through podcasting, music or another outlet, whatever it is, what advice would you give them?

First of all, be honest with yourself when you are trying to approach this idea of podcasting towards other people. I would say do not base it on what you've seen on, like, other kind of streaming platforms or listening platforms or anything like that. Do not try to base your kind of way of producing and your productions on anybody else's kind of production. Be honest with whom you are and what you personally have an interest in. Is it somebody else's interest that you're trying to talk about here, or is it, like, the fact that you're interested about. About somebody else's interests?

Gotcha.

And then I'd say probably a little bit of the public speaking thing would be a good thing to hone in on and trying to find your voice, your personal voice. Try not to go all super. I want to say rock jock, because you're. I mean, screaming into the microphone is a thing, but it's not. You're not Sam Kinison.

I mean, you are absolutely talking to somebody who. Who loves to talk like a rock job.

But I mean, like, I love doing it. Yeah. But I mean, in the extreme way, like, very gonzo, adventure kind of way. If you want to find your personal way to connect with other people, the way that you're going to genuinely do that is to be a genuine person and be sincere to who you are.

Distilling that all down. I'd say be authentic is your biggest takeaway from that.

Yeah, definitely come with your authentic voice. And everybody has a unique perspective. Even if things seem so similar to other people. That is actually kind of a unique thing in and of itself. It's like, there's not a lot of people that you might actually find that you have more in common with certain particulars about other people. But the way that you project and say particular things is your own way of being able to be unique about it. So you might say that you like an orange slice, and I might say I like taking the rind off of an orange in a particular way and gutting it with little spices and everything like that.

I actually eat the orange rind. I love it.

I love it.

Yeah, I love rind. I just. I don't know why, but I've always done that.

Yeah, you are. That is, like, weird.

I know.

Actually. No, you like, actually, ta. See, that's.

I love the ride.

It's weird.

I'm striked. I'm sorry. My brain, it took a note there, and I was, like, really trying to assess this. And then I thought about it. I'm like, that is. That is. You've got a stomach of some.

Not like I used to.

No, I love that because. Well, to me, the first thing I thought about was, like, when. If you're hunting and, like, taking the whole animal, using the entire animal and, you know, being thankful that that entire animal had life and everything, like, as adverse to, like, just chopping it up and life sustenance, throwing all the bits away. I just. That was the vision that I had in my brain about you. Wow. You really, actually, really appreciate every bit of everything.

I just think it tastes good.

I.

Well, you know, I've done it ever since I was a kid.

That's interesting.

Yeah, it is.

It's good for spices, too. Taking the rind and putting in, like, your mulling and everything like that. Man, you're a very interesting person all the time.

Terry. Denise, so great having you in today. Ripper is the name of the podcast. It premieres on LCC Connect. Coming up on the 30th of September. It'll also show up on WLNZ 89.7. Thanks so much for coming in and talk to me.

Thank you.

Very last question of the day. I can't tell you what this question is because it's the rando question of the day. Here we go. If you had a reality show, which one would it be and why?

Which one would. I mean, just follow me around with a camera and I guess, I don't know, would that be multicam, single cam?

You know, it's up to you. It's your reality show.

I guess it would be just like the story or the view of my life. And to Walking in My Shoes. How about that? Seeing things from Depeche Mode.

Yes.

Dry Walking in My Shoes. That's one of my favorite songs from those guys.

I love it.

Okay, so one of the P's is definitely a preview.

She figured it out. Hey, at least you remembered.

Hey, you know, I'd just like to say, like Gandalf says, a wizard's time is their own time or something like that. I'm paraphrasing something like that. I'm truly a wizard. I'm saying I'm on my own time and my brain is on its own time as well.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Stars on Sports. I'm joined today by our assistant Athletic director Steven Cutter, our producer Journey Robinson. Again, confused there. The dallian sat in this here for a little bit. But anyway gentlemen, for those out there listening live, we're going to do a poll on what we're going to talk about today. Just kidding. Today gentlemen, we're going to be talking about Ero. That comes up a lot in our podcast. And opening up my email this morning I get a daily email from Brian Kite who has emailed Daily Discipline. So I'll give him a nice plug there because I get two good ones every day. That one Daily Discipline and another one on just motivation. Kevin Deshazo or something. I'll have to look that up. We'll talk about him in the future. But anyway, Brian Kite and every Daily Discipline email with Ero. And I'm pretty sure Ero has come up on almost 90% of our podcast here. It is a big part of life and it's a big Part of our lives and a big part of our team and a big part of our programs. And, you know, other topics I thought about talking about was communication or core values. I'm in a leadership class right now that, you know, kind of working me through core values. And I know your program has core values, but we'll touch on those another day. But ERO is a part of that. I mean, we are, you know, emphasizing that with our coaching staff, with our student athletes, our program. So today, though, in his email, when we talk about ero, in the past, it's been about the response. You can't control the event. You can control the response, and that will lead to the outcome. And we all want a positive outcome, even if it's the best event or the worst event, it's how you respond to it. Well, today's email took it a step further and because when you talk about how to respond, we kind of just hit on. Respond positively. You'll make sure you have a good response. Well, today's was more have an intentional response, have a response that creates an outcome that you want even better. And it almost like takes it up another level because, yeah, responding well is good, that will lead to a better outcome. But if you're able to respond with purpose or intent or create an outcome that can lead to an even a better ending, you're going to be in a better place. And it goes back to. Guys, we're going to be name dropping here, I guess today, who knows where this podcast ever goes, direction. But Brian Cain, who's a big. One of our, one of your mentors, one of my favorite people to listen to thanks to you and one of the most profound things he said that I still think of and I think of a batter every time when I think of this is what did you want when something happened to you? What did you want to have happen? What happened and what the best next decision to make, what you want to have happen? I only think of a batter with a called strike or whatever, you know, what would your. And so anyway, both of those premises, though, is what can we do right now to do put us in the best situation moving forward. And you know, you and I, we talked about 10 minutes before this podcast even started about how important that is with our teams. And even sometimes, you know, like, even in communication, we talk about communication, everyone's ready to just respond right away. And you know, I remember one president would always like take two or three seconds whenever he was asked a question before he responded. And people gave him credit because he was, like, thinking more instead of just jumping in to respond. So, anyway, I just gave a long monologue, and I didn't get a chance to get initial feedback because you guys helped me direct where this podcast will be going. So I know you're big on ero, so what do you think of that, That R in there?

Quite a bit of perspective. And I can date back to, like, this morning. Our baseball team was in the weight room this morning, and I went in there to get a few videos and, you know, check on them, see how they're doing, and talk to our strength and conditioning coach and things like that. And I, As I was walking around, I started talking to one of our players, and he started telling me about how great he felt today. And, you know, I asked, you know, what, What. What's the difference? And he says, you know, I finally got some great sleep last night. And he goes, yesterday I really struggled. I didn't have enough sleep. And it really put me in a bad mood all day. And that's kind of where the E plus R equals O. That's where I wedged right back in and said, those are your feelings. And the event that happened was your lack of sleep. And you chose to respond with a negative attitude because you got the. The lack of sleep, which then ultimately affects your outcomes with people or what you're trying to do. So it is one of those things where it's easy to say e plus R equals O. It's much harder to practice it because it will come up in almost every minute, every hour of your life. And it really comes down to how much are you willing to accept the reality of the event and respond in a way that's going to serve you. So it's a very challenging thing, and it's something that not only people like Brian Kane or Brian Kite or, you know, people have been talking about this for a long time, and I think they. They're still constantly talking about it because it comes up in everyday life. And we get to choose if that car cuts us off on the on ramp or on the highway, or we get to choose right at that moment how we're going to respond. And they don't get to choose how we're going to respond. We get to choose how we're going to respond.

Well, you again, now we're going down a whole different pathway. But. And I've. And we've talked about this before on a podcast, too, even like, lack of sleep or you're sick or, you know, you failed your exam or you're having the difficulties at home or in a relationship can make it difficult to focus on your response. And again, it does impact everyday life and everyday decisions. Not just sport decisions, as we'd like to talk about on here, but every day when we leave this podcast, how do we respond to what's next in our thing? But do you teach your kids? Do you bring up ero or. I always tell my kids, even when you're not feeling your best, give your best. And it might not be the same as the day before. Like, to your kid, if he still gave his best yesterday, that's all he can do at 80% compared to now. He's 100% today. And, you know, the whole nother level. But the key is still, you know, that response of giving your best, because I'm not going to name drop anymore. But Greg Harden, who was the mental coach at the University of Michigan, talk about 100%, 100% of the time. And you know, that is that realistic.

So there's. There's a lot of questions.

Good. Because I don't have any more answers.

So, yeah, I definitely feel like that when you're trying to teach this, one of the easier ways to go about it is not always be talking about E plus R equals O, but to start talking about feelings and that voice inside of your head. And everybody has that voice inside their head. That voice at times will be telling them that they're tired. That voice will be telling them that they can't do something, that they're not enough, that they're in a great spot. The voice will be all over the place. And so we really try to teach like, that voice does not determine what you do. You determine what you do, not that voice. And so if you're not feeling like you're enough, that doesn't mean that you're not enough. You're feeling like you're tired. That doesn't mean that you can't still put in great effort. So we teach not to listen to your feelings. Feelings are just what they are, and to speak into existence what you want, and the more that you can talk to yourself versus listen to yourself, the more. You know, plenty of studies have shown that the more success you're gonna have just with getting out of bed, you know, not hitting the snooze, you know, just the more things that are gonna fall in line for you.

Yeah.

All right. So I wanted to. I'm kind of like. Because you guys like the professionals, and I want to speak for them, I'm

gonna have to Edit that later.

Nope, it's gonna stay in there because it's me giving roses and I love giving roses. So from speaking on the outside, like my. This is my first time hearing that. So for the general public who may not know what that is, what is ero?

It's. It's an equation. And there's a book out there, one of my favorite books, actually Urban Meyer wrote it, but I actually think Brian Kite might have been. There was an author with it and it was. It's called above the line behavior. It's called above the line, but it talked about behavior that are above the line and below the line. If you want to be successful, you need to be above the line. And the best way to be above the line is the equation ero. I mean, I'm paraphrasing generally summarizing the book, but everything starts with an event. Everything that's an event happen to you and then how you respond will determine the outcome. The event doesn't determine the outcome. We all want to blame these.

Then it's the same as the internal voice. The internal voice doesn't determine if you show up or not. If you're not feeling your best today that you didn't get enough sleep, you determine that, not your internal voice. And so that event does not determine your response. And so you can kind of flip it a little bit and you get to determine with that event. And that's what comes out of your. With your outcome.

And too much focus is on the event in our life, like being sick or not getting enough sleep. And this is trying to take that and say, no, we can't control that. But what we can control is how we respond to it. And today's email is even more specific on respond, purposely respond with intention instead of. Because we've always talked about don't respond negatively, respond positively. But that's a great way to make the event better. But you can take it to another level by being more purposeful. And back to the point though is we seem to focus on the event and blame the event for everything that happens. When this equation says these responses, what important how you respond will determine your outcome. Both event response determine your outcome. You can't control the event. You can control the response. Controlling response will give you a better outcome.

Yeah, I literally. So we name dropping. So I literally just watched a video from a speaker called Myron golden and he was speaking about how to brainwash himself to not procrastinate. And what he was talking about was the main thing was as natural human beings, we only do what we want to do. So how do you trick yourself to want to do things instead of trying to force yourself to do something, how do you trick your mind to want to do it? So he said, you naturally going to. He said belief is not just faith. He said belief is two things. Either it's doubt or you believe it's going to happen. So it's like the negative positive that you all was talking about. So that's like the response. Either you're going to respond in a positive way or a negative way, and that response is going to go to your heart, which is going to generate an outcome, which is either I'm doing something or I'm not doing something.

And that's a whole nother podcast. And you started to hit on it and we could talk about the brain and belief. And I think again, that's what you were getting to with how you teach ERO is getting them to use their brain or work with their mind. Because we all know, I mean, again, one of my favorite things that we've learned is your mind. When you think you are spent, your mind is only really at 40% capacity. You've got 60% to go. And training your mind, as he talked about talking to yourself instead of listening to yourself are some of those ways to get that belief system to get to your heart to do that. So that all does lend to your response. And again, that's more back to the how do you work on the R in that equation? And those are the ways. And again, what name drop. Ted Lasso. You know, we got a belief sign up in our office finally, you know, and how important that is, though, in even believing that you can do it or not do it in all different circumstances. And everything's easy when it's rosy, not everything. And we've talked about, well, what happens when you get hit in the mouth and that belief system, it's that heart. And you've done podcasts on resiliency and determination, and those are trained, those are taught. I mean, but the brain and the mind are huge in this, and it's important. And being smart, too. I mean, I wanted to hit on a little bit we were talking about before this podcast is sometimes the response can be delayed, sometimes the response can, you know, we talk about delayed gratification and that. And then one of my mentors always taught me, you know, sometimes people rush to you with problems and sometimes take a step back and let them try and solve it for themselves because they'll grow and learn better if they do that instead of you solving all their problems for you. So yeah, the response isn't just a quick hitter or I got to respond right away. We all want instant response. But I also think it can lend to a more intentional and creative response if we do step back, because we're not. I mean, you try and prepare for everything. Preparation is another huge thing in trying to work on a response.

Procrastination is one of those things that's viewed as a pretty negative word for the most part. You know, you think about procrastination and you know, people say I procrastinate too much and it's just pretty negative. But that being said, you talked about responding. There's so many events that happen in your life every single day. It doesn't matter what your profession is, what you do. There's thousands of events every day. And having procrastination for some of those events, which means just basically you're going to delay a response, is one of those things that I think at one point was probably pretty challenging. I believe today it's 10 times as challenging because we have our phones and you don't have to respond to every email, every message. It means that you take, it's going to take away from what you're trying to do. You can respond when the time is right. And so that's where procrastination comes in. There are certain things that you don't need to do. There are going to be certain events that come up that just as you mentioned, Greg, that it's fine not to respond. Let somebody else try to work through it and, and figure it out. Don't just pave the road for them, let them help you pave the road. You know, and so sometimes with procrastination or sometimes not responding, you know, as I said earlier, it's when you're a coach, that's one of the things that you're trying to learn and try to figure out in the journey is what do I respond to and what do I not respond to.

I think that is huge. That's why I just wrote down the, the word no. And you know, Warren Buffet was a train drive, big believer in one of the leadership things. The best word in leadership is no. And I struggle with the word no and even delayed responses because I want to get it done and check it off and move it on. But back to core values, as I said, we'll talk about or priorities or preparation is sometimes no response is the best response. Sometimes prioritizing response is like, well, this is More important than this one. And again, another future podcast we talk about is choosing your battles, knowing what battles to fight for, which battles to pick head on, which ones to delegate, which ones to prioritize. So yeah, the response is many facets and in our society today. And that's what the other part of his email was. We live in a reactionary society. And that's, that's part of the problem, that we're so reactionary that we're not looking at being intentional or purposeful, creating because we're reacting. And so many things happen in our life and a lot of it is social media that we're responding to so many things that, yeah, it's a positive or good response, but is it the best response? And again, the intent today was just take it to another level. Don't just respond well to take it to a, to another level. So. And what, you know, accepting it or denying it. You hit on a little earlier that I wanted to talk about too. Or maybe it was you, one of you talked about the event. You know, being realistic about the event or being self aware about the, if you, if you lie to yourself about what the event is or something, then that will hurt your response too. So being real or being actual and evaluating the event can help with the R. So the event is still pretty important. Again, it's just the one thing we don't have control over. When we can control the event, that's much better. But it's really the response that helps controlling that outcome.

E R equals O is not ignoring your circumstances. It's really taking ownership over your responses and your circumstances. A lot of times are going to be really challenging, really tough, not fun. You know, all these things that make it hard. But you have the ability to take ownership over your responses. It's no different than if we walk outside leaving the WL&Z studios and we're complaining about it being windy. There's really not much we can do except get behind a building, another building, or get inside. There's just not much we can do. It's, it's, it's a waste of time because we can't shut off the wind. So that's the event.

Yeah.

And it's. So just you're not ignoring it. You're just saying, okay, I'm going to control the response of that. Yeah, so that's what it looks like.

Ignore is not a bad thing. I'm learning this as a father. So my son, there's times where I tell him to do something and he get real Mad. And I used to just respond, hey, you need to. But I learned to just, you know what? I'm gonna let him be in his feelings that he'll come to me. I'm sorry, Dad, I didn't say anything to him. And I think that's really choosing your battle. Yeah. And what you were saying about worrying, like, I heard a funny saying, he's like someone who's 5 foot 5. If he worries about being tall, it's not gonna make him taller. It literally gets nothing done.

Yeah. And you can't control, you know, you're five foot five. How do you make the best of it? But back to your point, either back about believing or. And you even started to hit on it, is stacking those wins, which is another thing we've talked about, and rewarding your positive responses to the little things. So that when you are in difficult situations, you're either able to handle it better or prepared to handle it better. Because those are the ones where the erosion really separates itself are the difficult ones. But learning to build on the. On the easier one, because it is daily, it is not even daily. It's every minute you know, we're responding to something and just, you know, working on doing it intentionally and purposefully and not just positively, which is what we've kind of focused on. Or what I focused on is just be positive. You know, take the high road, be professional when you respond, and that will

go a long way.

But again, another level of intent and purpose.

What do you feel about. Because I know certain eros you're going to be really good at. Like you, you got good practice in that. But for the ones that you don't have to practice in and you have to get better at, how do you encourage people to say, you know, it's going to get better the more you.

You work at that experience helps with

that doing it every day. Because the events really start when you wake up in the morning. So it's just starting to be intentional with, okay, how am I going to respond to this alarm clock? How am I going to respond to this mess, this message, this traffic, this car that's not working, all these things. So you get so much practice. But if we're not intentional with our thoughts, we don't even realize that we have all these things that we can practice on. So we're really fortunate in a lot of ways because we have these events that we can practice. Just start practicing, just start stacking bricks and it's going to get better.

And we talk about this a lot in our office, it's about those end of game situations where, you know, getting, being there, you know, helps. You know, we've seen teams that consistently choke at the end of games or struggle down, you know, turn the ball over or such. And we talk about it regularly in our office of how you get better at. And it is back to you can't prepare for everything, but you keep preparing that. It builds bricks that you, you get better at those things. And it, and it lessens the thing that you haven't prepared for that you can either manage or again, even though you, I know you're a big NBA fan of how many teams have had to make the NBA Finals before they won the NBA Finals. And those teams that go and win it once are the ones that usually aren't there consistently, but the ones that are there consistently usually take some. But it's experience. It's doing those things every day and getting better at all the little things, all the fundamentals. As we talk about that, again, it lessens those things you're not prepared for.

Most importantly, I think it's take advantage of your experiences. That that's how you gain experience. Take advantage of. Because they're there, you just take advantage of them.

Learning. I mean, that, that was another part of this is learn, I mean, make those responses. Learning experiences. So yeah, instead of not just again, being reactionary, reflect, build, learn from those. And that, that takes time too. So we could talk all day about that. This was exciting. And maybe we'll hit, we'll keep diving in. We can do two, three part series on this podcast. Go vote in the poll. Just kidding. So let's end with our question. Question, gentlemen, I've been coming up with a lot of food ones lately. Like anytime I eat a food, I think, hey, how can I ask this question on our podcast? And we talked a little bit about this before, but. And if it's not one, we'll go on to another one. But do we all. Do you guys like Doritos? Do you like Doritos or potato chips? With the first question, I feel terrible answering. Why? Because it's not healthy.

Yeah, I feel guilty when I get them, but I, I love the nacho cheese Doritos.

Okay.

I would try to, you know, hey, make sure my wife keeps them out of the house because otherwise they'll end up in my lunch. And you know, I, I love them.

They're.

They're incredible.

They're addicting. Yeah, I've learned. Okay, I'll talk about that in a second. What about you chips or Doritos.

So making me choose is not fair.

I hear you.

Growing up in Detroit, better made was everybody Everything. But my wife makes this nachos with the sweet chili Doritos. And those are so good.

Well, that's the thing. Doritos have come out with so many flavors now. And I think my kids like the sweet chili. And the reason I bring it up, it's funny. I help my daughter with lunch in the morning, and we got these wavy potato chips, which I like, and we have Doritos. And I kind of like make her pick which one she likes today. And she'd been on a Doritos craze. And I prefer the nacho cheese myself. They're the best. The other kinds are okay, and there's like four or five flavors out there. But even for nachos, you know, my wife made me nachos with Doritos the other night. It's hard to beat a good Dorito and then coach. I think it's okay in moderation, you know, I mean, you can't eat the whole bag in one setting, which I believe Doritos are addicting just because you like something.

I think that sometimes that's a bad response.

Months, really? Yeah, man. I want to live life and have fun. But you're right. I get that. Yeah, you're true. I guess there are things out there so sweet. And chili Doritos. Better made potato chips.

Yeah. Barbecue. Better made.

Now, see, we'll tell. That's a whole nother conversation because I like barbecue. Talk about potato chips and then not. Yeah. Nacho teas is simple for you, too.

Yeah.

All right. Well, let's keep it short because we went along on the other stuff, so. Good stuff as always. Gentlemen, until next time, Go Stars. Stars on Sports is recorded live at the WLNZ studios. Engineering and production assistants are provided by Dadalion Lowry and Journey Robinson. You can listen to the episode and other episodes of Stars on Sports on demand@lccconnect.org to find more information about our athletic program, visit lccstars.com thanks for listening. Be sure to join us next time for more Stars on Sports.

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