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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Hi and welcome to the U World order showcase. Podcast we have back with us today Michael O'connor, who is a humanistic astrologer, and he offers life coaching. Michael helps people become more clearly and consciously aware of their true nature, authentic destiny and timing, and he's back to talk about observing the context of the larger planetary cycles in astrology

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: hurts, too, because

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: we just had to cut off in the middle of a great conversation, had last time so welcome back Michael.

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Michael OConnor: Thank you, Jill. Thank you. Lovely to be here.

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Michael OConnor: yes, the where we left off there was on the

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Michael OConnor: in astrology, as mentioned, the age of Aquarius, based on

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Michael OConnor: it being a 2,160 year period, which is large already, which is 1 12th of the what that's called a great month, an age, or a great month.

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Michael OConnor: and then there's what's called a great year, which is 12 times that about just shy of 26,000 is the whole idea. And so this is a very large cycle, obviously, and the age of Aquarius itself.

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Michael OConnor: We I've

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Michael OConnor: based on some quite serious studies, and really solid evidence in terms of historical synchronicities.

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Michael OConnor: strongly believe that we have yet to arrive at

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Michael OConnor: the dawning.

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Michael OConnor: No, the actual sunrise. So so when we talk about, John. We are talking pre sunrise.

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Michael OConnor: It's that lovely light, and we've been in it since about 1920, so approximately a hundred years already.

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Michael OConnor: So. And that makes sense in light of the 2,106 year period. So that's the 1st context.

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Michael OConnor: And and you don't need to go larger. And there it is.

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Michael OConnor: Now, what's so interesting about that is that there's some very wonderful cycles that will culminate right at that time

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Michael OConnor: most specifically. And it's not the largest of the cycles, but it's a important one. It's called a Jupiter

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Michael OConnor: Saturn cycle.

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Michael OConnor: So the Jupiter and Saturn in astrology are the social planets

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Michael OConnor: on no less than winter solstice 2020,

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Michael OConnor: 2020, and winter solstice in Western astrology is like

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Michael OConnor: the grandmother, if you like. It's the real

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Michael OConnor: olds. That's the

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Michael OConnor: it's really the event of winter solstice is synchronistic with the new moon, and that if you get into the esoterics of that kind of whole principle you realize. Wow! It's a

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Michael OConnor: such a powerful event, isn't it? And the answer is, Oh, yes, it's it's more than it seems.

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Michael OConnor: When you kind of get closer to it. So it's it's the official natural New year.

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Michael OConnor: Okay? Now. So in for a major event of

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Michael OConnor: Jupiter and Saturn which have these 20 year cycles to have their conjunction right on winter solstice was

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Michael OConnor: at no less than exactly 0 degrees of Aquarius.

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Michael OConnor: So these this was big, and I did a couple of videos

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Michael OConnor: which, you know, people watching this, if you're interested, go to my website, Sunstar astrology.com into the library at and

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Michael OConnor: or into what sorry, what's called learn. It's actually on the

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Michael OConnor: bar to learn. Then go to the bottom. You see the library and you'll see there's a whole bunch of videos and articles that have been talking about this for some time. So anybody who's diligent and interested enough they'll be white caught up to speed. Now, what what's really exciting? And there's 2 in particular that are point right to that event in context, to the age of Aquarius.

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Michael OConnor: Now there was more to say, and some of that more has to do with the fact that when 2 planets conjunct like Jupiter and Saturn, and they do so every 20 years.

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Michael OConnor: There's a very rhythmic cycle for one that I elaborate upon in the article. So I'm not in the video. I'm not going to do that right now.

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Michael OConnor: But

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Michael OConnor: they, any 2 planets that form a new cycle enter into a process of

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Michael OConnor: of an interrelated dynamic over the

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Michael OConnor: time period of the cycle.

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Michael OConnor: So so the the and the main points are what's called the 90 degree or square points, and the 180 degree or opposition points. The squares are like the half moon waxing, and then the opposition points like the full moon, and the the other square is the half moon waning. So if they're symbolically associated, similar to winter solstice being new moon, spring equinox being

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Michael OConnor: both 6 A. M. And

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Michael OConnor: the square.

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Michael OConnor: full moon being summer solstice, and the opposition.

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Michael OConnor: That would be 12 noon. And then

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Michael OConnor: there's 6 PM.

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Michael OConnor: And the waning square. So you kind of get this 6 Pm. Winter solstice and aspect correlation. I just kind of mentioned that because kind of interesting. And it helps understand? Okay, that's what an aspect is got it.

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Michael OConnor: It's not about

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Michael OConnor: the fractal feature of nature.

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Michael OConnor: So the the squares and oppositions are when the dynamic event occurs, because because or the conjunction opposite squares and oppositions, because they're symbolic of, like the new season.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, the quarter of the day, the new season. And so when there's a when we come to a square, it gets edgy, and it gets dynamic, both leading up to it and following it.

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Michael OConnor: Now it just so happens right up the full moon in Aquarius.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I'm just gonna interrupt you for just a second, because I've noticed that as you shift into different seasons, you can see it in the weather. The weather has

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: impacts like it's really windy in the spring and the fall.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I mean, exceptionally wet, windy.

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Michael OConnor: Those are good examples. Yes, there's there's definitely

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Michael OConnor: parallels and correspondences and

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Michael OConnor: fractal. When one understands holism and fractal principles, you will, you will see. And this is where we get into the language of synchronicity.

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Michael OConnor: So it's not

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Michael OConnor: notions of random and arbitrary are kind of almost ridiculous, you know, really, and even notions of the arrow of time. It's like, no, everything in the universe is cycling. So how can you say, Arrow? It doesn't make any sense, but they do that a bit in science, and I don't know why, exactly. But I suppose they're trying to see further and further back. In a linear sense. It's kind of a projection of a linear model of thinking, but everything's cyclic. And so, for all intents and purposes, so

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Michael OConnor: even won't go into that. But the main thing is here. Is that just right at in, exactly on the very day of the full moon in Aquarius, which was the 19th of August.

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Michael OConnor: Jupiter and Saturn form their 1st of 3 squares. Why, we say 3 is because they too, invariably, often, not always. They didn't at the conjunction, but they do. Sometimes they, one or the other, will retrograde

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Michael OConnor: sometimes both. And that retrograde dynamic causes the planet to appear to go backwards. So it's even though it's apparent and not real. It's our perceptual experience. And that's how astrology works. It's very mystical and interesting. How it does that. But the thing is that right? On that day it was the 1st of 3, and they the second, occurs in early January, and the 3rd in the

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Michael OConnor: So 1, 2, 3. The last one is very dynamic, because the while the first, st the conjunction was in fixed signs, and this

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Michael OConnor: square is in mutable signs, and the next square will be in mutable signs. The 3, rd one of the square dynamic is in cardinal signs when it's cardinal. Cardinals are very dynamic, very active. So all of what this means is

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Michael OConnor: it's pointing especially because the the new moon no sorry the conjunction occurred on winter solstice. So it kind of has this now

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Michael OConnor: larger, collective thing.

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Michael OConnor: It's it's much more powerful than it would be otherwise.

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Michael OConnor: And and in Aquarius no less. I mean.

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Michael OConnor: my wife was saying, are we? Sh! Can we fully trust that this is actually happening? Or did they kind of make it this way? Because it's just too damn convenient.

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Michael OConnor: you know, and I know a good point, but that's not one I can answer, but from astrological practice we would say no. It proves itself in practice that no, it is accurate.

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Michael OConnor: There is a

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Michael OConnor: a genuineness about where the planets are.

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Michael OConnor: and so we can go with that

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Michael OConnor: admittedly Western astrology uses the tropical zodiac, which is the one based on the the cycle of the sun.

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Michael OConnor: where other systems use other things, but that one's very much

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Michael OConnor: the more grounded one connected to the Earth cycle

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Michael OConnor: because of the light. So anyway, the point is that this triple this process, you know Jupiter and Saturn 20 year cycle. So the fact that the 1st square has a triple like 3 squares over the course of approximately

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Michael OConnor: 10 months.

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Michael OConnor: too hard to understand.

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Michael OConnor: but they are best understood as a dynamic. Together they work. It's all part of a process. So everything's process based.

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Michael OConnor: Well, that's not entirely true synchronicity. It does imply various kinds of events.

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Michael OConnor: Now, the main point I'm trying to make is that the Jupiter Saturn conjunction is all about the economy.

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Michael OConnor: and when they happened in Aquarius, in light of the context of the age of Aquarius. You go! What does that mean?

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Michael OConnor: And that it sort of in probable terms points to the likelihood, the inevitability of a centralized government. Global economy.

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Michael OConnor: which

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Michael OConnor: stands to be good.

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Michael OConnor: The trouble, at worst is that any such revolutionary process

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Michael OConnor: implies other things like, for example, that a global economy and a central bank would not be, strictly speaking.

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Michael OConnor: This is where the re, like social, economic, political realities of the United States, comes to the fore because it has the strongest dollar.

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Michael OConnor: you know, this whole notion of that. So whatever it is specifically the main point to know is that the Jupiter Saturn conjunction is linked to the economy, and it happened at 0. Aquaros Aquarius is a sign of revolution, and, generally speaking, you could say, Aquarius is the sign of the collective of humanity.

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Michael OConnor: It it's like the 11th sign. It's the master number sign habit, Levin, and

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Michael OConnor: Okay, so it's very mystical that way, the subconscious to somebody. So. But Aquarius is like the elder.

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Michael OConnor: the, you know. So it all culminates there. And again, in numerology, 11 is a master number, and it gets into all this numerology, astrology kind of synchronicity, archetypal psychology stuff. But the thing is, what we're talking about is that that

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Michael OConnor: And the the opposition point, which is symbolic of the full moon or summer solstice 12 noon

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Michael OConnor: Well, wouldn't you know it? There'll be another triple square process right in 2,029

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Michael OConnor: Just so happens according to my very detailed, calculated studies. That's when the age of aquariums will have its sunrise moment.

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Michael OConnor: And it also is true, and it's not what those findings are was not influenced by, and ha is kind of independent of agenda 2030.

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Michael OConnor: historically, going way back. That show. I mean, we're talking centuries ago, very right in the year when it would have major events have occurred, so that the timeline proves itself going backwards. Very, very well, remarkably well, okay to to the year, some not. I didn't go as far as to try and get it to the month and all that, just as long as it was in the year. That was enough.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah, oh, yeah, they do. And it does generally suggest that it's interesting, because

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Michael OConnor: I'd read a book when I was literally 40 years ago that talked all about it, and I I kind of put a seat in my head, and I was very curious, and I thought about it for many years, and I finally sat down and looked at the history. And it's not a small task I was like. Well, there you go and and again, I won't try and elaborate on it. There's a lot of details. But

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: You can look at the evolution of of banking as it's gone on. I I can remember when you couldn't. You could have a bank. I I had like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: interstate 1st Interstate Bank, I think, was the bank I had

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: maybe 40 years ago, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I had. They had branches in different States, and I'd moved from California to Washington, and I couldn't deposit my paycheck

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: in the bank in Washington. I had to deposit it in the bank in California.

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Michael OConnor: For example, like they're showing in China, it's high level surveillance. And my general thought is, that's very likely to be true early on like, so it will itself have to evolve. And as you astutely mentioned that we'll have to get past

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Michael OConnor: Who aren't so kind of interested in our kind of hippie dreams of a global economy. But on the very high side, it very much aligns with the aquarian principle.

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Michael OConnor: Exactly. It's between now and.

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Michael OConnor: There's a rhyme and reason, time in season, 2 at all. There is a grand plan.

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Michael OConnor: and that grand plan is kind of subject to the fact that we don't just have consciousness. But we live in consciousness.

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Michael OConnor: principle of the ages, the perennial philosophy. But okay, so, but this ground back to Earth, and you know reality. And just the fact of our mortality. We have to get through all this right that the economy will undergo some very

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Michael OConnor: Okay. So we've been in a kind of more of a yes, you know, Yin Yang conversations there. But in this context that will be the most yang moment.

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Michael OConnor: not that I am not attached and not have, I don't have a

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Michael OConnor: and and they can't quite understand. It's like, My God, you know, like what about good old America, you know, and mom and apple pie. Let's get back to being us.

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Michael OConnor: No, exactly. It gets bit philosophical, but not everybody thinks that way. Of course. Now here's where it comes down to, even closer to ground 0

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Michael OConnor: So not everybody does that as much. I think they just kind of okay. It's gonna be kind of shitty, march, and here you go, you know, or or October, and good luck, you know. But this is the you know. Good astrology can say it's gonna be last.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah, it'll last this long. It'll affect these areas of your life. And oh, my God.

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Michael OConnor: you know! Fasten your seat, belt, or you know this is what you can do. That would be helpful. Okay. But but to see that in a larger context to me is helpful, even though it's a bit more effort for the person to have to. Okay. Okay, I see the bigger picture.

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Michael OConnor: The thing is in the United States now.

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Michael OConnor: like these are not small things for, and even that that well, as a matter of fact, that even itself is semi the short list, but it goes like this

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Michael OConnor: now. It is true that one of the ones I mentioned last time was the 1st of them was a Saturn return cycle. So every 29 and a half years Saturn comes back, and it establishes a certain kind of dynamic. When it happened last time in the United States was way back in 2,011. Okay? But what's okay. That's a long time, all 13 years right. But it hasn't reached its midpoint. Yet

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Michael OConnor: I I haven't. I closely analyzed, but it's approximately about 16 months from now.

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Michael OConnor: okay, you know what? I'm not. It's too much geeky calculating. I'm not gonna do it on the computer. So I don't wanna

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Michael OConnor: you know, waste our time. But yeah, it's very close. And and even though.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And at like maybe December of 2025.

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Michael OConnor: The end of 2025 approximately. Yes, that's exactly right. And 2025 is going to be pretty epic already. Now, what's really significant about that chart what we? When I look at the Saturn return chart

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Michael OConnor: or the United States, I was like holy smokes. There was

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Michael OConnor: like like, oh, no, I can't you. You have the. You have the the call.

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Michael OConnor: there's a 4 planet stellium in Aries, Aries in Israel. Whenever you see Aries is the the sign of new beginnings. So remember.

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Michael OConnor: hang on! I must.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Share this, share your screen, and then.

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Michael OConnor: Oh, I can. Okay, okay, yes. Okay. I'm not used to the when. Okay.

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Michael OConnor: Having a little trouble bringing it up.

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Michael OConnor: Now. Okay, there it is. Can you see that? Okay.

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Michael OConnor: there's a little debate in in the United States. Between what time? Exactly the on July 4, th 1,776, did the United States begin? And we're not going to get lost in that. Saturn is a very, very small, slow, moving planet. Some believe it was like 2 Am. In the morning.

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Michael OConnor: others think it was about 5 in the afternoon. I'm 1 of those who goes with the 5 in the afternoon. Most

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Michael OConnor: a rosier picture of the United States. I must admit the one the other one so. And I don't wanna

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Michael OConnor: argue, I can't be sure, sure. But what's most important is, Saturn didn't move a a pinch in that day because it's 2 soul planet. So what we're looking at is what's called the Saturn return chart of the Us. Sibley chart. Okay, that's what people who might have any sense. They can look it up.

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Michael OConnor: It's got a very, very interesting chart for a variety of reasons.

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Michael OConnor: 1st and foremost, there's 4 planets in Aries, and no less than what's called a Uranus sun conjunction.

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Michael OConnor: Well, he was in 2,008, right? And then he had a second round in 2,012, so that he was right in the context of it. There was that

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Michael OConnor: She says she's Indian, you know. I don't know. By the way, I don't want to get into that. But like, you know, black American, African, American, Indian, American, you know.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, if I okay, okay? Cause there's 1 that said, Are you Indian? She said. She said, yes, oh, okay. I don't really know but what we're talking about is that if 1 0 sees the bigger picture, they say.

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Michael OConnor: And and you can go on and on to analyze what the meaning of this chart is and implications. We can talk for hours, but that one's the 1st major one. The fact that the North nodes in Sagittarius conjunct the Galactic Center is something some will notice which is very significant, which is kind of like saying

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Michael OConnor: Okay, so that's really. And then Neptune, because it's at 29 degrees. That's called a critical tweak, because it's only 30 degrees in a sign. So all of this shows oh, and also Pluto Pluto at the 4th house, cusp. Whenever, if Pluto is in your 4th house.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: That's the frame.

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Michael OConnor: The whole thing but the frame and the cement, and the foundation, and even that could undergo so so in a symbolic sense, you go holy smokes. What are we talking about here is? And it's like, it's yeah, it's. And look what's happening. Right? So we're talking about synchronicity. Again.

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Michael OConnor: there's a vertical horizontal consciousness is dominoes. Linear logic. This happens happens. The other thing happens. But vertical logic is no, it's not that simple. There's a synchronicity at play, and it's a leap of awareness and consciousness to appreciate that. There you go.

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Michael OConnor: Moon. Scorpio is one of the most difficult places for the moon to be. It talks about emotional, like they call. I refer to it as the emotional roller coaster.

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Michael OConnor: and it's it's now on the high side. Fortunately, the moon is in harmonious aspect to Mars. That doesn't hurt, thank goodness, quite frankly, thank goodness, that that's a bit of a saving grace, and the 29 degree. Neptune. Venus. Conjunction is also quite

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Michael OConnor: No, okay, that's very significant, because the North knows like a magnet pole. So the United States, basically speaking.

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Michael OConnor: I I say this, that with great confidence, and it's fairly obvious that oh, yeah, of course, by 2,040. But

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Michael OConnor: No, no, it's going to be reinvented.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, this is more than it seems. There's no ifs buts maybes, there's nobody who's gonna do something to make it turn back.

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Michael OConnor: And, interestingly enough, it occurred at a time when, from the standpoint of the United States.

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Michael OConnor: and for good reason, all kinds of good reasons, and it's not a judgment on any person or any State or anything, not the United States. Nothing. This is not like, although this is the chart of the United States. Astrology is not biased to that. It's just. It is what it is.

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Michael OConnor: The day that the United States was brought into

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Michael OConnor: founding fathers. As the story goes, right on July 4, th you know, we? We declare that we, the people, I'm afraid, thing right, declare that we will create a nation. Well, on that moment, that on on the base of exactly that day.

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Michael OConnor: This chart is based. So you cannot. It's not like fudging or nothing. Games, no parlor tricks, nothing. Okay. So

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Michael OConnor: is basically the simplest, best word, and again, the sun Uranus conjunction. See, in astrology the planets are the real thing, and

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Michael OConnor: But when a planet is conjunct, another planet, and especially one like Uranus. It's like Whoa, it's it's like what you could call uranus conjunct. The sun is

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Michael OConnor: not simply like a lot of Tnt. Metaphorically speaking, now, metaphorically speaking, it's nuclear

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Michael OConnor: nuclear like this is. Now, I'm not. Please. Nobody think that. I just said it's mean nuclear war. There's me nuclear bomb, not saying that I'm saying metaphorically, it is so

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Michael OConnor: And that's all I'm going to say. For now. Okay.

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Michael OConnor: it's going to be a different country in a manner of speaking, and I by no means wish anybody harm, or you know nothing like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: The way nations go. If you look back.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Yeah, 100 years, this country was totally different than it is now, and if you look back 200 years

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it was totally different than it was a hundred years later. Things happen along the line, and and not all of the things that happen, our public knowledge or train. Our children are trained to understand what's going on, because we perceive

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: to be a way that they are

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: because of the information we've been given or we've gathered, and not all of the information that you get

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: But.

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Michael OConnor: Industry.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Things that really are accurate or true do determine what's going to come later

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: in the process.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: So no matter what you're saying, this is just like this isn't. Say you're not forecasting gloom and doom for the United States. It's just that this is a picture of what

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: could possibly come up, come about, and these are a few of the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: could dictate certain patterns of action, and we're not even saying that any of this

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Michael OConnor: Well, actually, everything you said is very accurate, Joe. Like, change happens

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Michael OConnor: All the way through there's been very significant turning points, and one could go back and study the Saturn return charts over the many century. You know that since it was since its inception, it's true, and if they did, they and there were historians, they would see

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Michael OConnor: so what it is. It's not kind. There's no maybes here.

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Michael OConnor: Though the I will offer that. But yes, it's well taken that

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Michael OConnor: Life is always full of change. That's the law, and it's hardly what it was in, you know, even in the sixties and even in later than that, right? So the interesting thing is approximately about 1982 was the one before that about 1953 was the one before that. So you can go on like that 1920.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Those make such total sense to me because I was around during those periods. And I can see major shifts

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: from 1982 to today

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: life is totally different.

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Michael OConnor: Exactly. It goes like that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Totally.

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Michael OConnor: There's a technological. There's the global thing. There's this and that all going. But now the thing is that this chart I haven't looked at the others. And I I could. And I, you know, maybe perhaps we'll do a video on it. But more specifically, this one is like.

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Michael OConnor: it's it's just I. The metaphor of the house, stripped down to its foundation and its bones and rebuilt, is a good way to describe it.

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Michael OConnor: Now the thing is that this is the tricky part

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Michael OConnor: Okay, so now. And it it does. It's like, so so it just simply seems like the United States by its destiny. And it was all just very, you know, in the natural organic flow of the signatures, and I'm sure they weren't thinking this way then. Right? They weren't planning ahead. They didn't even know about Uranus and Neptune and Pluto way back. Then they wouldn't have known.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, that Uranus would have been jumped. The sun and Pluto would have been at the 4th house cusp, which is that

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Michael OConnor: powerful indication of nothing, you know, just stripping.

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Michael OConnor: And then Neptune at the highest degree, no less. Wow. So you know. So but maybe on the very positive sense. It's like looking at a beautiful old house. But it's you know the wood is eaten away. It's it's kind of no longer holds its integrity. But we're going to use the land. We're going to use the the ground. We're gonna create something new and beautiful.

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Michael OConnor: right? So that's the hope and promise of of progress and positivity.

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Michael OConnor: It's not just hopium, but it's

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Michael OConnor: you know, just the natural inclination of people to want to rebuild, if something, you know, etc. Okay, so there's that. So the Saturn return chart within is the 1st very significant contextual perspective for the United States that I'm looking at that's started further back than the others.

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Michael OConnor: Now, the

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Michael OConnor: what's called a Pluto return.

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Michael OConnor: Okay? Can you see this different chart?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Yeah.

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Michael OConnor: So if you go up to the left corner here, you're going to say, Pluto returned us simply. Chart July 11, th 2,022.

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Michael OConnor: Okay? And it's done for Washington, etc. It could have done Philadelphia. It doesn't really matter, but makes sense. Washington, DC, right?

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Michael OConnor: That's what we call. Where do we locate it? We go? Well, where's the government, you know, kind of thing.

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Michael OConnor: And in the Federal sense. Now, this chart, it tells something else. But what you're mostly interested with this chart is just simply that

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Michael OConnor: Pluto has a 246 year cycle. So it's been ever since the like, the birth of United States. And this is the 1st Pluto return, and it just happened in 2022, in context, to the Saturn return cycle which is so dynamic with the Aries and the Pluto energy. Okay, the renovation principle. So we look at this and we will go on and on about this, but, interestingly enough.

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Michael OConnor: it it very beautifully has Uranus conjunct the north node in Taurus, so what that means is that it will rebuild itself.

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Michael OConnor: But now the the the Pluto return itself had a triple return. So the way I work with it, you have to take that 240 year period and divided by 3, which is approx, almost exactly 80 years.

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Michael OConnor: So so it's it's a big story here that it will take

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Michael OConnor: 80 years like within the context. Not entirely. But it will take

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Michael OConnor: within the context of 80 years

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Michael OConnor: Okay? So we're not talking some overnight, or even though the Jupiter Saturn one is very current

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Michael OConnor: and and big, and but it's more generic. So it's not like it's about United States specifically, but it will. It's as I said, the United States has the strongest dollar. But it's in light of this global economic

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Michael OConnor: notion in light of the age of Aquarius. It might be in the way of that.

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Michael OConnor: That's okay. That's the whole supposition.

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Michael OConnor: So it's again, nothing against good old neighbor, Cousin America for me right at all, in fact. But

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Michael OConnor: so. But we, this kind of thinking, the beauty of it is, it makes you

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Michael OConnor: free it. I think it can help person get out of instinctual survival, reaction, fear into intuitive embrace the flow, except there's a larger rhyme and reason, time and season destiny to it all. And then, just in, you know, love, life, embrace life.

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Michael OConnor: you know. Maybe.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Comment, live in the.

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Michael OConnor: Remember, to.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Worry about

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: things generally don't happen super fast.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And even if something does happen super fast.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it's like throwing a rock in the ocean. Yeah, there's going to be some big waves really fast. Yeah. But then it's gonna calm down and it's gonna ripple out. And then it's just gonna blend in, and then it's a new normal. The water is just a little higher.

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Michael OConnor: Sure. There you go! There you go. There's a good metaphors exactly, but it can also maybe perhaps, help something. There's a lot of wide eyed. Run for the hills going on out there. And you know, yeah, you know, fill up the basement with food which I don't think is the wrong thing to do. But then the guns, and then the Vigilantes, and then the you know the survivalists. And it's like, maybe.

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Michael OConnor: And it's this is not for everybody. This kind of thinking I appreciate, and I don't expect every and you know people to

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Michael OConnor: think this way strictly, but it could be helpful to get them into a kind of a, a.

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Michael OConnor: an acceptance, a surrender, a a gratitude, you know. Just be here, make me, you know, rather than going to survival. How about, you know? Turn your attention to what might constitute meaningful contributions.

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Michael OConnor: which, by the way, is what authenticity is truly about. If you get into like when I do. Astrology, like you said is true. I'm really interested in helping people identify and align align with consciously, with their choices, with their authentic destiny in a more conscious way. Many people do it, but not consciously so. So. All I do is help them be conscious of what they're already doing. So that's but some people aren't, you know, they're off track.

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Michael OConnor: So so, but with one does it authentically, invariably, almost invariably authentic in its most pure sense, implies meaningful contribution.

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Michael OConnor: You're you're you're somehow going. Okay. How can I help? Right? And that's cause.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Into.

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Michael OConnor: So I know it's true.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Has to be with

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: physical things. You can learn skills,

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and be able to share them with others. For genies, for example, or some old.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: some old crafts like how to make soap, how to make cheese, how to milk animals, how to garden

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: gardening is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: just throw some seeds out there, and they'll just like sprout up.

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Michael OConnor: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, no. It goes on and on what you can do. And it's true. When you look at people's personal astrology charts, you realize.

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Michael OConnor: you know it's it's very wide spectrum. The notion of conformity, or the notion of kind of this is the way it's like, no, no, has nothing to do with authenticity at all. That's why Communism couldn't work. You can't just tell people they'd rather die, they will die. You will kill them, you you. If you make them be what they're not, they will die. So a free.

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Michael OConnor: a free world, a free society within various degrees of, you know.

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Michael OConnor: like even a healthy measure of Socialism doesn't mean you're not allowed to do things. You still have a lot of freedom, right? And so on and so forth. But but if if it comes to a point where you know people being controlled well, you might as well have a death camp because it will kill them.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: If you have Socialism in in the way where people are contributing because they want to contribute rather than Socialism, where you're assigned

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: jobs and you're you have to do that. You have to contribute in a certain way. That's that's where people just by virtue of fact that they're human beings, start to bristle.

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Michael OConnor: Oh, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: When you can offer your services to the next person

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: in exchange for their gifts.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and how they can contribute it makes for a more meaningful relationship

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: among individuals, but also among a community.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Honestly, that's the world I envision is.

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Michael OConnor: Well, there you go!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: All valued for our individual contributions. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and you just contribute, because that's who you are.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: You're allowed to just be who you are.

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Michael OConnor: And to contribute exactly, and to contribute, therefore, by that very statement, your way. All exactly right. So when we say social, anybody listening, just be clear.

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Michael OConnor: If you understand anything well, with social like political science, you understand, everything's got a spectrum. So if you have a modicum of Socialism, then you could have, like free medical like, you know, tax paid medical, and, for example, education even. But it doesn't mean that you're being dictated to or endlessly told what to do, because that will never work.

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Michael OConnor: and that will just be. It will never work. It just cannot work. So don't be afraid that that's ever going to happen. If it did happen. It won't last.

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Michael OConnor: It just cannot. It's that is where the tide it just

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Michael OConnor: everybody will turn. It just won't work it. Just trust that, just like in the United States.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Even without a government you can have subsidized care for certain things. People can be subsidized in a way that helps them to prosper, and everybody prospers together.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and it.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: It elevates.

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Michael OConnor: Really.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Whole society.

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Michael OConnor: You know, it's really beautiful about that statement is that there's reason to believe that the United States this chart here the Pluto return chart is not a common one for astrologers to look at, so we're in a sort of a but

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Michael OConnor: like new territory. Because how many? How often do you study a Pluto return? It's kind of very, very rare. Only a country could have that.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, only a country. So I have to be in what's called mundane astrology, which I touch on which we're doing right now. The astrology of nations.

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Michael OConnor: Now the thing to understand is that

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Michael OConnor: the the way the to interpret the return chart is just like interpreting a Natal chart like there's different strategies to, it is true, and you want to go on and on with different techniques. But basically it's the basic rule of thumb. You just look at the return chart like a Natal chart. And what does it say? And what it said, what! It will go on and on about this chart, neither, because again, you can talk for hours and hours on about any chart. But it's this is this Uranus Taurus conjunction, which is rebuilding.

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Michael OConnor: But also it's interesting that the Sun Mercury

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Michael OConnor: conjunction. They're a bit wide, but they're together in the sign of cancer, which is the sign of the the sun in the United States chart, like Canada, July first, st United States, July 4.th We both have sunshine, cancer, home family roots, all that mom and apple pie pan principle now. So but it doesn't. It wouldn't. It wasn't necessarily that the sun would be in cancer, but happened to be that the Pluto return happened in July.

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Michael OConnor: one week after July 4.th So the sun was still in the sign of cancer in Western astrology. So now it's interesting. It's all about like in the. It's in the house of relationships. What's also interesting on the house cusp of cancer. So it's, this is a sign of cancer on the house cusp cancer, which is right down here. The 4th house cusp.

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Michael OConnor: It's Aries

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Michael OConnor: again.

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Michael OConnor: new. New. Okay, Brad, like it's pine Aries is the sign of new beginnings. It's the baby of the zodiac. Pioneering initiatives, bold new. Enter the unknown. All the thing. Right? Okay, Pine. Okay? And interestingly, also.

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Michael OConnor: Jupiter and Chiron are fairly close, especially Chiron.

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Michael OConnor: Chiron. Here is very significant, and it's in square to the sun. What that means, is

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Michael OConnor: it? It's kind of like it's gonna have to almost like reinvent itself. Once again that term I use. It's going to be like.

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Michael OConnor: who are we now, and what do we do now but what it looks like positively will occur.

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Michael OConnor: But this is the positive.

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Michael OConnor: People will be

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Michael OConnor: so. So. What what's indirectly emerging here is that

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Michael OConnor: the levels of prosperity that exist may not be

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Michael OConnor: like it was.

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Michael OConnor: as we already see, that right, and there may be more. This is being shown by the the moon in Sagittarius, with the Sagittarius rising sign.

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Michael OConnor: There's a lot to say about this once again, but at in the most basic positive sense, it's going to invite. I've got to check something here one moment.

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Michael OConnor: Just gonna check. Okay,

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Michael OConnor: one second, I'm just gonna check what it's saying. Okay.

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Michael OConnor: yeah, it could be, you know, the a tad like tumultuous like, meaning like in the rebirthing and the regrowing and the re

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Michael OConnor: it could create

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Michael OConnor: factions.

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Michael OConnor: Factions.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, so that's that's kind of the scary part of this.

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Michael OConnor: But people like will maybe pushed

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Michael OConnor: To offset this faction. Kind of thing.

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Michael OConnor: So that's I'm just saying that as I see it now, okay, and not sure sure exactly what to say about that. But I do see this, basically.

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Michael OConnor: And there is one last thing I'll mention. And again, we we can go on and on, and perhaps we could another time. But it's just, you know. Most people aren't sure what they're even looking at, what you're looking at, of course, planets on an astrology chart. So I'm going to get out of here in a second. But what I did notice in particular is Ju Mars and Jupiter in this chart are technically what we call unasspected planets. What that means is they're wild card planets.

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Michael OConnor: That that basically it shows

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Michael OConnor: it's gonna be like a a rebirthing on many levels.

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Michael OConnor: And yes, people will have to work together, but it will create kind of like the foundations of a new spirituality like a new ethic. So so

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Michael OConnor: positively it'll kind of serve to dismantle segregations.

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Michael OConnor: Like, you know, it could have a you know people will always believe what they believe right, but maybe with less

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Michael OConnor: any given religion won't dominate

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Michael OConnor: it. It'll be more wide open, more liberal, more, you know. Live and let live and stop

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Michael OConnor: trying to

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Michael OConnor: convince everybody of what you believe.

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Michael OConnor: Kind of thinking, and that okay, so then that kind of thing. I'm gonna leave this.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: This happening.

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Michael OConnor: Oh, yeah, okay, you would, you would. I'm not surprised you. You're out there. You're you've got your finger on the pulse, I'm sure, quite well, clearly by what you're commenting. It's there. Yeah. So okay, so

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Michael OConnor: Saturn, Jupiter, Saturn. Conjunction

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Michael OConnor: in the age of Aquarius. New global economy thing.

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Michael OConnor: United States kind of on its not not

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Michael OConnor: consequentially sync it itself above and beyond what's going on like. Okay, it's a bit confusing this, the Aquarius age, the Saturn Jupiter conjunction. That's generic for the planet. But even if you took those things away

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Michael OConnor: okay, the United States is going through these changes anyway.

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Michael OConnor: But the the age of Aquarius and the whole other Saturn. Jupiter aquarian economy theme is

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Michael OConnor: involved in in a kind of a

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Michael OConnor: just like that word says context way. So it's like, you know, from the standpoint of the United States. Being a nation in the world.

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Michael OConnor: it it's under, because the age of Aquarius and the Jupiter, Saturn, conjunction, etc, are global perspectives. So this is a national one. But this would be happening anyway.

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Michael OConnor: When we have wildcard planets, planets unasspected, it means.

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Michael OConnor: Well, I I'm going to go with what I said, but it it could well produce kind of various forms of

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Michael OConnor: people.

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Michael OConnor: old factions, disintegrating and new ones being born

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Michael OConnor: like new alliances. New. Okay? So it's quite significant. I won't try and paint it too much, and you know, so forth.

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Michael OConnor: The other couple of charts I'm going to mention more briefly. Okay, but they are significant still, because we I know we're getting on here. We don't want to go too much longer here, but it the one in particular that I wanted to mention

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Michael OConnor: beyond the Pluto.

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Michael OConnor: is mostly

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Michael OConnor: I was doing a few of these.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah, there's a Jupiter. Okay, no, not that one.

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Michael OConnor: It's

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Michael OConnor: yeah, yeah, there is Jupiter. Jupiter returns every 12 years. There's an so it just so happens. And you know, in July 2025. So right after that Jupiter Saturn Square. There.

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Michael OConnor: there's going to be a Jupiter conjunction. Sorry return and be positively

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Michael OConnor: It

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Michael OConnor: speaks of like a new confidence.

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Michael OConnor: but

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Michael OConnor: stop

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Michael OConnor: tumultuous. Still, there's a there's a it's like the like. There's no going back.

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Michael OConnor: There's no returning to the good old days. There's no going back to various, this is, and that's and it's nice to be nost out. You can think we could if we would, and we we would, if we could. Right to. You know some people say, Oh, God, I mean even the nineties back, please. You know some of the younger people wouldn't know what that means, but those of us who are a little older. No, it was not that perfect, but it was kind of a not so in crazy, right? So now there's a what this.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: That we just weren't aware of it

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: as much as we're aware of stuff that.

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Michael OConnor: That's true, that's true, but it's even so. I think there's more revving up going on now, and especially in the Us. Chair. So so yes, the Jupiter return chart does start next year, and it's a 12 year cycle. It's really important to understand that phrase that this chart will hold

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Michael OConnor: for 12 years. Okay, like, it plays a background role, it's true. But you know, you kind of what does it say? It's very creative at best.

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Michael OConnor: But there is a sense of

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Michael OConnor: re

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Michael OConnor: discovering that ourselves, like like, who are we now? And I know, you know, it's a sense of needing to go forward. But like

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Michael OConnor: a sense of

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Michael OConnor: well.

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Michael OConnor: basically, speaking

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Michael OConnor: it's not as easy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Interesting that it's gonna

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: go through its cycle, and it'll cycle one more time just before the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Jupiter. Is it Jupiter Uranus?

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Michael OConnor: Right after the Jupiter, Saturn Square.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Yeah.

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Michael OConnor: On its heels, is what you're saying there.

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Michael OConnor: I believe. And yes.

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Michael OConnor: They announced.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: So close to the donning.

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Michael OConnor: Oh!

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Michael OConnor: Yeah. Well, yes. As a matter of fact, yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Aquarius.

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Michael OConnor: No.

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Michael OConnor: yeah. I understand. Okay, yes, right? That 2029. It will overlap in that. Yeah, I I think I think that it won't be like as he.

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Michael OConnor: just as we're seeing now in a global level, there's a recession, right?

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Michael OConnor: And I think I'm like, I'm a little bit concerned at worst, that it's gonna be big in the States, and perhaps it already is. So it's kind of

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Michael OConnor: delicate conversation there, and and I don't pretend to know all the details, but it could be

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Michael OConnor: harder to earn a dollar and and all of that, and but positively that people will learn that we got to work together more than we used to. So the kind of

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Michael OConnor: scale of individuality, you know, like, you know, everybody being sort of isolated, or whatever you want to call it. I know that's not uncommon all over the world.

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Michael OConnor: but the United States looks like will be pushed a bit more to new alliances. New.

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Michael OConnor: Those factions could be the good, bad, and the ugly, too, you know. You can understand what I'm indirectly hinting at. If things get tougher, you know. It brings out the instinct driven gnarly rationalized action. That is so, I'm you know. So it's kind of oh, it's pretty serious that way.

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Michael OConnor: now, this is the one more I'll look at what's called the Uranus return. The reason I'm looking at it because it's an 84 year cycle. And it happens in 2027.

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Michael OConnor: So you see, that's a lot of major planetary return activity. Here. Right? Let me just check one more thing very briefly. One second, I just want to go back

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Michael OConnor: and remind myself of one more thing. Okay, yeah, no. The Neptune return won't happen for a long time. So it it was like something like 80 or something years. So so we won't even worry about all we're talking about all the far planets

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Michael OConnor: so the fact that Uranus is the one will kind of end on here. As a return, even though it's in 2027. It's very close in context. July 26.th So a few years from now and it's similarly.

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Michael OConnor: is showing

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Michael OConnor: a very

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Michael OConnor: It's kind of

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Michael OConnor: is what comes to mind as one of the words

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Michael OConnor: you know.

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Michael OConnor: if purely by the destiny of the United States, it's not about them, or they or who done it or anything. It's exceedingly everything we're looking at is based on that some

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Michael OConnor: revolutionary people.

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Michael OConnor: based on, of course, a larger dynamic of history

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Michael OConnor: got together and decided we're going to become a nation, and they signed that Declaration of Independence on a certain day. And all this is based on that. So you can't go into them. And they. And we're victimized. No, it's not like that. If you understand the themes of destiny.

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Michael OConnor: It's not for everybody to fully understand or even believe what the astrology is saying, but I'm gonna

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Michael OConnor: with confidence say

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Michael OConnor: that

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Michael OConnor: under is already, and will continue to undergo

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Michael OConnor: such a significant change. You see.

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Michael OConnor: I must admit when you say that it's changed, you know, over the years it has right.

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Michael OConnor: but it's going to go to

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Michael OConnor: another level

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Michael OConnor: like, and I don't think that will just be, you know, negative. I think it will be very positive.

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Michael OConnor: but I suppose one could look at

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Michael OConnor: the whole country and say

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Michael OConnor: what needs to happen.

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Michael OConnor: And it's like a like a some. I've heard it before, like what's called the rebirthing of America.

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Michael OConnor: Okay? And and some people will say, we need this.

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Michael OConnor: Okay? And maybe not. Everybody does not. Everybody's interested, not everybody thinks that way. But

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Michael OConnor: but it's it's what's going to happen, and maybe in the grand scheme of things

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Michael OConnor: it makes me wonder.

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Michael OConnor: and I generally suspect

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Michael OConnor: it will won't be.

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Michael OConnor: Some people won't like this, but I, I don't. I. I question whether it will be a superpower

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Michael OConnor: like it. Because

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Michael OConnor: no country, if the globalization of high technology and the revolutions evolution on the global scale are to occur. It kind of can't be that way. So the because it's.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Necessarily a bad thing.

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Michael OConnor: No.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: So the reason we're a superpower is because we kill a lot of people.

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Michael OConnor: That's the point exactly, because

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Michael OConnor: because.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Nation, of.

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Michael OConnor: Big player on the game board.

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Michael OConnor: because it's like the it's like the warrior on the field that nobody wants to tackle, because it's and you know most American people I've met are nice people. They're kind, they're friendly. They're good hearted, you know. So it's.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: But as a country it's the bully on the block.

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Michael OConnor: It happens to be. And then the most many Americans don't want that. They they're like so. But you know, unfortunately, a lot of the money probably is generated from the and this is, you know, that

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Michael OConnor: military engagement, I suppose? Right? I don't really know. I don't. I'm not an economist. I don't really pretend to understand

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Michael OConnor: how all that money is generated. Right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Stolen off the backs of the American people.

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Michael OConnor: Sure there's good old fashioned hard work, and there's good old fashioned consumerism. Of course.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: They're they're

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: taxed.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: It's.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: yeah, we're taxed in inflation, which is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: created because these big conglomerates are sucking so much money out of our economies in the form of the government, and the Government redistributes it to. We have.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: We have corporate Socialism in this country

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: more than, and that has to go.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I'm sorry, but it it just can't continue on, because there aren't enough people to continue to support these socialistic empires that are out there. The medical Empire, the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: the military, industrial, complex. These complexes are all supported by government

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: money, and the government gets it through taxation, but they also get it through borrowing, and the borrowing is what's really crushing the people.

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Michael OConnor: Gotcha. Yes, so

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Michael OConnor: thank you for that. That was a wonderful, simple, some very erudite way of saying it. Yes, the according to the astrology

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Michael OConnor: the United States is now already fully on track

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Michael OConnor: to undergoing

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Michael OConnor: a rebirth, a reinvention, a rebuilding. But it's not a quick process. We're talking about.

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Michael OConnor: Well, probably at least in the arena of a rental process. Okay, of

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Michael OConnor: at least 50 years and more to the tune, probably of 80.

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Michael OConnor: But 50 is a kind of somewhat conservative perspective. But remember, in order like, if that process includes first, st

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Michael OConnor: I think

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Michael OConnor: it has to 1st go through. It's if you do a rental. You 1st have to strip it down.

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Michael OConnor: So that's where things get kind of uncomfortable. And it it begs the question. But the stripping down right now.

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Michael OConnor: Like. And remember, there's the

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Michael OConnor: horizontal linear logic. This happens that happens. They're doing this, and that's not untrue.

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Michael OConnor: Then there's the vertical, which is what we're looking at the synchronistic.

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Michael OConnor: So that see, when you get into the synchronistic perspective, you realize that

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Michael OConnor: the everything happening in the horizontal perspective, linear logic push, pull. Physics

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Michael OConnor: is connected to what would be, in the broader sense of the term called on one level the laws of nature.

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Michael OConnor: and on the other

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Michael OConnor: the plan.

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Michael OConnor: Okay? Like, it's that when you study astrology well, you understand that the archetypal principles

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Michael OConnor: it's kind of in historical, you know Greece. And so Rome. The gods, the gods! Aren't these arbitrary players there?

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Michael OConnor: Archetypal principles

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Michael OConnor: associated with very large evolutionary cycles

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Michael OConnor: that

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Michael OConnor: you know it's kind of like saying nothing personal, just like, for example, it's in a ironic, you know statement

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Michael OConnor: quite frankly, to make right now.

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Michael OConnor: Like like to Ukraine. I'm like, look you, lovely Ukrainian people. It's not really about you. But you. It just so happens. That's what.

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Michael OConnor: And people will say, well, that's happening because of this. And that's happening by that. Now go. Okay, yeah, okay, I understand. But but if we were to study that country we see their astrology. But the vertical thing is that it kind of arrived at this juncture. The same could be true, of course.

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Michael OConnor: Palestine.

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Michael OConnor: And and so so you see, in other words, what I mean is, it's not biased.

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Michael OConnor: and it's just a question of when not if that it's, you know the next place, the next place and next place is gonna undergo its

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Michael OConnor: processes of rising and falling, and you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: It's the same with human beings. We we all have a destiny in our lives, and we're going to go through the process. And if if you're

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: older, when you look at your chart like I was.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: you can realize you could recognize. Oh, I remember when I went through that period, and what was happening there and this period. And if you get a birth chart when you're younger, you can

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: I? You can look at it and say, oh, okay, so these kinds of things are gonna appear

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: during my lifetime, and I can take advantage of the good things, and I can

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: shore up my resources for the things that aren't going to be so pleasant that I will go through. And it's not. It's not like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: it's not to put people in fear of what's coming. It's to help you prepare mentally.

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Michael OConnor: Opposite. Exactly. It's the.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And and to embrace it, because change always comes with the yang and the yang of it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: There's going to be things that you're going to be like, Oh, this is so amazing! And there's going to be things like, Oh, God, I just I just don't want to deal with this anymore. And and the things that you don't want to deal with anymore.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: they're not forever.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: When I was when I was truck driving.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: when I 1st got into truck driving. I was

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: definitely afraid of going through winters as a truck driver, because I never drove in snow before.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: and and what I learned is that it only snows for a little while.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Yeah, if you're gonna travel through it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: or

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: or you're going to stop, and it's going to pass over you. It's not a forever thing. It doesn't snow for 3 months straight.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Okay, it just doesn't.

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Michael OConnor: For example. Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: And he can.

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Michael OConnor: Exactly. It's

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Michael OConnor: there's you know. It kind of gets comes full circle to timeless wisdom like.

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Michael OConnor: be grateful.

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Michael OConnor: Try and be authentic. Make meaningful contributions.

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Michael OConnor: Live, you know, like, be here now.

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Michael OConnor: right help your neighbor. All the good classical ethical principles of humanism, etc, has always been true it's remain ever, you know, but the revolutions of evolution will happen, whether we like it, believe it or not, and getting into blame, and so forth, or or even

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Michael OConnor: hyper reaction is kind of what will occur.

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Michael OConnor: But you know so it was on the highest side, I guess, with all of this insight here shared.

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Michael OConnor: You know. Yeah, those kinds of messages, of course, just to lend one final statement. That's what my work is about is helping people navigate whether whatever is happening.

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Michael OConnor: and I can see their destiny

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Michael OConnor: plan

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Michael OConnor: in, you know, and therefore help them understand

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Michael OConnor: the cycles of destiny. It all together comes back to the

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Michael OConnor: the whole paradigm of astrology is

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Michael OConnor: that we

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Michael OConnor: life is not merely purely circumstantial, it's synchronistic and destined.

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Michael OConnor: There's a rhyme and reason, time and season to our lives and to life in general, and we could call it historically, spiritually, religiously, the plan

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Michael OConnor: which is very relevant to say, and all notions that it's not there is. You're not low. You're not

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Michael OConnor: aware that, you know. If you've lost touch, you think is all just random, random, and arbitrary and chaotic, and

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Michael OConnor: no, but it can seem like that.

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Michael OConnor: but it's not anyway. So there you go! That's some insights, and you know

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Michael OConnor: pretty good.

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Michael OConnor: quick in light of how much we encompassed admittedly, even though, you know we've been here for an hour and a half

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Michael OConnor: but still it's

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Michael OConnor: not a quick conversation, after all, to talk about these things. But yeah.

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Michael OConnor: there's you know I was. You know there was one more thing, and I don't mean to belabor this, but I just was kind of curious about the the birthday chart of the United States this year.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah, you know, like, well, okay, this is all big and coming. And okay, well, what's what's going on this year, you know, kind of thing. And the end. This is what's called the solar return chart for the United States this year.

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Michael OConnor: I must admit it's a similar

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Michael OConnor: theme

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Michael OConnor: like to what we've been talking about. It's a

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Michael OConnor: a major

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Michael OConnor: The economy already, probably like people are having to work harder. Go harder, be more strategic at best.

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Michael OConnor: But it's also that some people are probably realizing. You know, I just can't win that game.

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Michael OConnor: And so the sun and moon

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Michael OConnor: are in the transformational house of Scorpio.

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Michael OConnor: And and so when you look at this chart, you you know, I ask myself, okay, well, what's this mean?

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Michael OConnor: It means that

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Michael OConnor: there will be some degree of rebuilding already. It's almost as though it's probably best to understand that. Like, if you're renovating a house, probably a better metaphor. Now that I'm looking at this, I moved to say this.

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Michael OConnor: it's that

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Michael OConnor: we're not okay, we're gonna strip it. We're gonna go the whole thing. But we're gonna do it in sections.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, we're gonna start here and strip it down and rebuild this, and it's gonna go. By the time we're done we will. We'll do go A to Z,

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Michael OConnor: even on the outside, inside and out.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, but we'll do it in sections. So I was conveying that it looked at 1st that oh, my gosh! You're gonna strip down.

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Michael OConnor: But as I look at this it seems to tell me

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Michael OConnor: something slightly different, and the rebuilding will already be there.

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Michael OConnor: So that's that's a nice way of looking. I'm glad I looked at this for that reason.

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Michael OConnor: but it is asking that people realize that

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Michael OConnor: don't blame and don't react and don't project. And just what's called displace displace means we're gonna hurt the others because this is happening to me. Right? People do that displacing.

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Michael OConnor: But it's kind of saying.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, we're gonna have to

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Michael OConnor: really work with this process more

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Michael OConnor: deliberately.

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Michael OConnor: It still kind of does beg the question, what that exactly means. But wow! That waning moon. So

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Michael OConnor: it's especially with the election coming in the United States. You know. What is that?

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Michael OConnor: What does this chart suggest about that all? And on so forth.

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Michael OConnor: It means that

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Michael OConnor: whoever wins

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Michael OConnor: will invariably find themselves having to

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Michael OConnor: very significantly, very quickly

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Michael OConnor: orient

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Michael OConnor: their energy and decision making process to

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Michael OConnor: what would be called

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Michael OConnor: the death of the old

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Michael OConnor: and the commitment to the new

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Michael OConnor: in okay, in a very strong sense.

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Michael OConnor: and

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Michael OConnor: it's kind of says.

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Michael OConnor: don't expect it to just get all sudden, abundant and

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Michael OConnor: prosperous, you know, like, it's

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Michael OConnor: practically saying, there's an expansive quality. It's just really saying to people, look, people get creative.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, it's saying, get creative

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Michael OConnor: and

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Michael OConnor: be patient and work

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Michael OConnor: at

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Michael OConnor: maintaining your emotional center.

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Michael OConnor: because if you don't.

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Michael OConnor: you could be the casualty of becoming unraveled. So, in other words.

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Michael OConnor: I will venture that there could be a fairly high level of unraveling occurring.

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Michael OConnor: You know, you said. And we're not really going to go into this too much. But

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Michael OConnor: with the big division in the United States between Democrats and Republicans. You know that unraveling could be

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Michael OConnor: whoever wins right? It's unfortunately it's loaded.

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Michael OConnor: So it's gonna like it's gonna be

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Michael OConnor: somebody. Whoever wins gonna kind of have to take some

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Michael OConnor: barely

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Michael OConnor: revolutionary

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Michael OConnor: posture.

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Michael OConnor: And and by the time.

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Michael OConnor: not even long by the time the summer comes

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Michael OConnor: there will be some

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Michael OConnor: major

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Michael OConnor: The people as who will do well, of course, are those who adapt and reimagine

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Michael OConnor: and not react and try and

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Michael OConnor: lock in polarized views.

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Michael OConnor: and or think and hope and believe that it will be as stable as it was.

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Michael OConnor: It's it's kind of almost the dice are pretty loaded right

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Michael OConnor: that even whoever wins in that election it's gonna

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Michael OConnor: probably have a destabilizing. I hate to even say that I'd rather I you know I'd like to be wrong.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Reality. It's the the.

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Michael OConnor: Hey today.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Set up for it. It doesn't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: It's nothing personal against the people that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: live in this country or citizens of this country. We are being set up

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: undergo a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: a once in a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: century.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: maybe 2 centuries

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: event

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: that we don't have any. We don't have a lot of control over.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah.

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Michael OConnor: it's

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Michael OConnor: The one final word I'll leave here is this.

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Michael OConnor: yes, it's gonna get edge. What? No, a few words gonna get edgy, and you're gonna have to reel. Everybody.

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Michael OConnor: get creative.

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Michael OConnor: Don't start spending all your money foolishly. Be wiser with your investments.

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Michael OConnor: And.

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Michael OConnor: positively speaking.

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Michael OConnor: it's going to pull people together.

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Michael OConnor: It's like, you know, in crisis, people come together. That will be its highest attribute of the year.

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Michael OConnor: And and hopefully, whoever wins is really gonna

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Michael OConnor: very quickly step forward and say, Look, people

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Michael OConnor: look! I know we're polarized, but we gotta come together now.

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Michael OConnor: and we've got to get past this.

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Michael OConnor: you know polarized perspective. And I think that's going to be a little easier said than done

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Michael OConnor: like it's not going to just be obvious, perhaps, but it does show

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Michael OConnor: a part of the.

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Michael OConnor: It's as though the one room that they're renovating is kind of like what you could call first.st

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Michael OConnor: It's almost like

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Michael OConnor: a meeting room of some sort like like it's gonna ask, like, we're gonna okay, we're gonna 1st do the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Living room.

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Michael OConnor: Nervous

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Michael OConnor: living room. Yes, it's it's a very

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Michael OConnor: goodness, said it better and more obvious. Yes, like the living room, you know, where the living happens, and the people kind of tend to meet each other there. Yes, exactly correct.

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Michael OConnor: You got it. And so

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Michael OConnor: so yeah, so anybody listening to this don't kind of run for the hills, just, you know. But be aware, it's not just gonna as would be the case.

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Michael OConnor: be business as usual.

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Michael OConnor: See. Oh, the reason I partially say all this is because the moon is waning

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Michael OConnor: to the sun, and it's no less than at the 29th critical degree.

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Michael OConnor: Okay, whenever applies to the critical degree.

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Michael OConnor: it's it's it's and it's squaring Neptune.

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Michael OConnor: all of which in English means

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Michael OConnor: over imagination. People having meltdowns because their perceptions of reality is that it's the end of the world

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Michael OConnor: that you know that it's just like whoever you know, like the if the If Kamala Harris wins, and all the trumpers will just oh, my God, we've, you know, like or vice versa, right? So I'm a little frustrated. Well, you know it is what it is, but it's kind of like, oh, my God! This is loaded

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Michael OConnor: and so, but and some people will just, you know.

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Michael OConnor: not everybody

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Michael OConnor: will be able to handle as well as other everybody else.

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Michael OConnor: So yeah, it's gonna be really

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Michael OConnor: time to

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Michael OConnor: hold each other's hand.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Deep breath, be kind to one another, kindness.

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Michael OConnor: Breath.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Most

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: value.

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Michael OConnor: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Attribute that you can have as a human being. Just be.

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Michael OConnor: You don't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: People.

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Michael OConnor: Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Yeah, it's it's like that. It's like.

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Michael OConnor: it's gonna be like.

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Michael OConnor: have to admit.

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Michael OConnor: Probably kind of scary.

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Michael OConnor: You know. Scary kind of maybe isn't the right word even. It's gonna be. It's gonna they're gonna have to face fears

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Michael OConnor: and get creative is the word that keeps coming to mind. So adapt be creative. Keep your feet on the ground, work together, cooperate

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Michael OConnor: you know. Invest your money wisely. Don't be frivolous and throw it around silly. Forget that cruise, and you know, or or unnecessary trip.

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Michael OConnor: you know.

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Michael OConnor: or anything that represents, you know. Spin! What do you call that

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Michael OConnor: spending money on wisely and crazily, I would encourage. Most people don't do that because this and but to, you know, we all have to keep paying the bills. So you need to generate the creative keep staying creative means, you know.

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Michael OConnor: finding maybe new ways of generating income or

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Michael OConnor: spending less money where it doesn't need to be spent.

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Michael OConnor: and I can help people. I'll throw that out there if I can help you be creative. That's a big thing. It's not just. I don't myself. As a astrologer. That's why I'm a life coach astrologer. I don't merely make predictions. I I work with people creatively. The life coach approach, you know.

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Michael OConnor: and roll up my sleeves and give people tools and guide them. And you know, and it can. Yeah. So I invite them to check me out there and sunstar astrology.com, and

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Michael OConnor: I'll help you out.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Thanks, Michael. I really appreciate you coming back on and and sharing all this information with us.

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Michael OConnor: Thank you, Jill, for having me. Yeah, I really appreciate it, because, you know, it's a message that kind of why I'm happy myself to share, and I'm trusting that it will land where it needs to, and you know.

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Michael OConnor: hopefully, others will share it a bit a bit long, but it's a worthwhile. Listen, I'd like to think just to help people get that much more prepared. So thank you again, Jill, all the best, and maybe we'll do something another day

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Michael OConnor: and another focus. But, boy, this is a big one.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist & Host of the You World Order Showcase Podcast: Worse, thanks! Bye.