1 00:00:24,345 --> 00:00:26,705 - Hello, welcome to today's episode 2 00:00:26,705 --> 00:00:28,625 of the Wedding Lounge podcast. 3 00:00:28,625 --> 00:00:31,665 Last week, we spoke in detail about church 4 00:00:31,665 --> 00:00:34,065 of England wedding ceremonies. 5 00:00:34,065 --> 00:00:36,625 And although there are lots of other religious 6 00:00:36,625 --> 00:00:38,265 types of ceremonies out there, 7 00:00:38,265 --> 00:00:41,505 we are gonna go into those in more details 8 00:00:41,505 --> 00:00:43,065 in future episodes. 9 00:00:43,065 --> 00:00:47,145 We wanted to touch on the legal side 10 00:00:47,145 --> 00:00:51,025 and the other options for those who are not religious. 11 00:00:51,025 --> 00:00:53,945 So the type of ceremony way you can get married 12 00:00:53,945 --> 00:00:57,225 and the different options you have available to you. 13 00:00:57,225 --> 00:00:58,705 - To legally get married, 14 00:00:58,705 --> 00:01:01,625 you have a registrar for shape ceremony. 15 00:01:01,625 --> 00:01:04,145 - This can be done in your local registry office. 16 00:01:04,145 --> 00:01:07,505 - They range in style from sort of historic looking buildings 17 00:01:07,505 --> 00:01:08,865 to more-- - Very pretty. 18 00:01:08,865 --> 00:01:09,825 - Yeah, very pretty. 19 00:01:09,825 --> 00:01:11,745 - No, not pretty, too. 20 00:01:11,745 --> 00:01:13,705 - Very chemical, maybe. 21 00:01:13,705 --> 00:01:15,385 - Sort of more see-looking buildings. 22 00:01:15,385 --> 00:01:17,385 - So it all depends on where you are in the country 23 00:01:17,385 --> 00:01:19,705 and what your local registry office is like. 24 00:01:19,705 --> 00:01:23,425 You can also legally get married by a registrar at a venue. 25 00:01:23,425 --> 00:01:26,385 So venues will have applied for licenses 26 00:01:26,385 --> 00:01:28,465 so that couples can host their ceremony 27 00:01:28,465 --> 00:01:31,105 and legally get married at the reception venue. 28 00:01:31,105 --> 00:01:32,505 - I've had a couple of couples. 29 00:01:32,505 --> 00:01:36,385 This year more so than in previous years 30 00:01:36,385 --> 00:01:37,865 who want to get married at home, 31 00:01:37,865 --> 00:01:39,865 but they've wanted to license their home 32 00:01:39,865 --> 00:01:41,985 so that they can do it really at home. 33 00:01:41,985 --> 00:01:42,825 - Yeah. 34 00:01:42,825 --> 00:01:45,665 - And it's something that I have been asked about more and more, 35 00:01:45,665 --> 00:01:48,425 which the minute isn't something you can, 36 00:01:48,425 --> 00:01:50,145 well, you can't really do it 37 00:01:50,145 --> 00:01:52,185 because if you turn around and try and license your home, 38 00:01:52,185 --> 00:01:54,025 and you'll say, well, you're not using it as a wedding venue. 39 00:01:54,025 --> 00:01:54,865 - Yeah. 40 00:01:54,865 --> 00:01:56,225 - No, it's not going to happen. 41 00:01:56,225 --> 00:01:59,585 But it's just, it's something that's definitely come up more. 42 00:01:59,585 --> 00:02:01,225 - Yeah, it's interesting. 43 00:02:01,225 --> 00:02:02,145 - Watch this space. 44 00:02:02,145 --> 00:02:05,225 We will keep you updated as things unfold. 45 00:02:05,225 --> 00:02:07,265 - So if you are not getting married at home 46 00:02:07,265 --> 00:02:09,065 and you're getting married at a venue, 47 00:02:09,065 --> 00:02:11,785 then you can legally get married there 48 00:02:11,785 --> 00:02:13,065 and then have your reception there. 49 00:02:13,065 --> 00:02:14,825 It used to be before COVID 50 00:02:14,825 --> 00:02:18,625 that you had to have your ceremony under a structure. 51 00:02:18,625 --> 00:02:22,465 So either inside or outside under a pergoda, 52 00:02:22,465 --> 00:02:24,505 which just had to be some sort of structure, 53 00:02:24,505 --> 00:02:25,545 but a permanent structure. 54 00:02:25,545 --> 00:02:27,985 - Yes, you had to get married under a permanent structure. 55 00:02:27,985 --> 00:02:29,425 - And most of the news, 56 00:02:29,425 --> 00:02:32,865 unless they've sort of been established post-COVID 57 00:02:32,865 --> 00:02:34,185 or have opened up a new area, 58 00:02:34,185 --> 00:02:35,665 they will have some sort of structure. 59 00:02:35,665 --> 00:02:37,025 That is their license area. 60 00:02:37,025 --> 00:02:38,465 - Exactly, exactly. 61 00:02:38,465 --> 00:02:40,465 Or obviously you can get married inside. 62 00:02:40,465 --> 00:02:42,465 But since COVID, there's more flexibility. 63 00:02:42,465 --> 00:02:44,465 So they have licensed areas 64 00:02:44,465 --> 00:02:46,305 where there aren't necessarily structures, 65 00:02:46,305 --> 00:02:47,825 which means you have a bit more freedom 66 00:02:47,825 --> 00:02:49,025 than the few more options. 67 00:02:49,025 --> 00:02:50,185 - Like nice woodland fits. 68 00:02:50,185 --> 00:02:51,025 - Yes. 69 00:02:51,025 --> 00:02:53,585 - And the only one that you can get married at. 70 00:02:53,585 --> 00:02:54,985 - Definitely. 71 00:02:54,985 --> 00:02:58,025 The benefit of getting married at a licensed venue 72 00:02:58,025 --> 00:03:00,265 is obviously that you have everything in one venue. 73 00:03:00,265 --> 00:03:01,905 You don't have to go and get legally married 74 00:03:01,905 --> 00:03:04,225 on another day. 75 00:03:04,225 --> 00:03:05,745 You invite your guests there. 76 00:03:05,745 --> 00:03:07,025 You have the ceremony. 77 00:03:07,025 --> 00:03:08,865 And you just go straight into the party. 78 00:03:08,865 --> 00:03:10,705 - Yay, Liz, yeah. 79 00:03:10,705 --> 00:03:12,865 - Turn the aisle and have a drink there 80 00:03:12,865 --> 00:03:14,305 and you haven't got to move again. 81 00:03:14,305 --> 00:03:16,025 - Exactly, exactly. 82 00:03:16,025 --> 00:03:19,225 - With the registrar wedding, obviously, 83 00:03:19,225 --> 00:03:22,825 you don't tend to meet the registrar in advance. 84 00:03:22,825 --> 00:03:25,625 You book through your local registrar's apartment. 85 00:03:25,625 --> 00:03:27,545 And you don't know who's gonna turn up on the day. 86 00:03:27,545 --> 00:03:31,625 You meet with them sort of 10, 15 minutes separately. 87 00:03:31,625 --> 00:03:34,545 So partner, one partner will meet with them first 88 00:03:34,545 --> 00:03:36,425 and then the other partner will meet with them afterwards. 89 00:03:36,425 --> 00:03:37,985 And you just have a short interview 90 00:03:37,985 --> 00:03:40,105 before you go ahead of the ceremony. 91 00:03:40,105 --> 00:03:42,345 - Just to make sure you're who you say you are. 92 00:03:42,345 --> 00:03:45,745 And that obviously your intentions are free to marry. 93 00:03:45,745 --> 00:03:47,985 - Yes, free to marry, yes, exactly. 94 00:03:47,985 --> 00:03:51,865 - You normally meet the registrar in a separate room. 95 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:53,905 I would just say from experience, 96 00:03:53,905 --> 00:03:56,625 sometimes the registrar can be quite particular 97 00:03:56,625 --> 00:04:00,705 about the room in which you are having the interview. 98 00:04:00,705 --> 00:04:03,705 Quite often they won't want there to be 99 00:04:03,705 --> 00:04:05,025 any alcohol in the room. 100 00:04:05,025 --> 00:04:07,505 Sometimes they don't even like coming to where you've got 101 00:04:07,505 --> 00:04:09,985 ready because there might be makeup around 102 00:04:09,985 --> 00:04:12,625 or old undergarments that you've taken off 103 00:04:12,625 --> 00:04:14,625 to get into your wedding dress. 104 00:04:14,625 --> 00:04:18,025 - It'd be a bit particularly about guest drinks before as well. 105 00:04:18,025 --> 00:04:19,585 - Yes, illegal service. 106 00:04:19,585 --> 00:04:22,105 So if you're planning on having a pre-wedding drink, 107 00:04:22,105 --> 00:04:24,785 - Yeah, I think you need to just be careful 108 00:04:24,785 --> 00:04:27,425 about the amount that is served. 109 00:04:27,425 --> 00:04:28,265 - Definitely. 110 00:04:28,265 --> 00:04:30,105 And we touched upon that in our food and drink episode. 111 00:04:30,105 --> 00:04:33,425 But it's just definitely need to reiterate exactly. 112 00:04:33,425 --> 00:04:35,625 So you'll have your short interview before the ceremony 113 00:04:35,625 --> 00:04:37,065 and then they will conduct the ceremony 114 00:04:37,065 --> 00:04:39,625 which usually lasts about half an hour. 115 00:04:39,625 --> 00:04:42,145 You won't be allowed any religious elements 116 00:04:42,145 --> 00:04:44,585 in your registrar ceremony at all. 117 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:47,225 So no hymns, no religious readings 118 00:04:47,225 --> 00:04:48,785 and no religious rituals. 119 00:04:48,785 --> 00:04:52,185 With a registrar ceremony, you don't have to have singing. 120 00:04:52,185 --> 00:04:53,985 You will need to have witnesses. 121 00:04:53,985 --> 00:04:56,745 You will need two witnesses to sign, 122 00:04:56,745 --> 00:04:58,945 or witness you signing, sorry, register. 123 00:04:58,945 --> 00:05:01,385 And you will often have a musical interlude at that point 124 00:05:01,385 --> 00:05:03,105 for your guests, whether that's live music, 125 00:05:03,105 --> 00:05:04,585 but you don't always have to have, 126 00:05:04,585 --> 00:05:06,305 you wouldn't obviously have hymns, 127 00:05:06,305 --> 00:05:08,025 but you don't have to have singing or readings 128 00:05:08,025 --> 00:05:10,065 if you don't want it, can be quite short and sweet. 129 00:05:10,065 --> 00:05:11,265 - Yeah, it's quite a nice way 130 00:05:11,265 --> 00:05:13,345 if you're one of those people that just want to thank you, 131 00:05:13,345 --> 00:05:16,425 and I want to get on with the party 132 00:05:16,425 --> 00:05:20,105 when it's quite a good way to kind of get it done. 133 00:05:20,105 --> 00:05:22,225 I mean, much like with the Church of Illinois 134 00:05:22,225 --> 00:05:25,665 saying, giving notice, you still have to give notice 135 00:05:25,665 --> 00:05:27,465 which you do through the website. 136 00:05:27,465 --> 00:05:29,905 - Yes, I believe it's at least 31 days. 137 00:05:29,905 --> 00:05:32,905 - Before hand, you have to give notice. 138 00:05:32,905 --> 00:05:33,825 - But do check that out 139 00:05:33,825 --> 00:05:35,945 because as we pointed out last episode, 140 00:05:35,945 --> 00:05:37,545 as a wedding planners, we don't get involved 141 00:05:37,545 --> 00:05:38,545 in the legal side. 142 00:05:38,545 --> 00:05:40,105 We are not here. 143 00:05:40,105 --> 00:05:42,105 You know, it's not our responsibility 144 00:05:42,105 --> 00:05:43,825 to tell you what's legally right and wrong 145 00:05:43,825 --> 00:05:45,425 because things change constantly. 146 00:05:45,425 --> 00:05:47,985 It's your responsibility as the couple getting married 147 00:05:47,985 --> 00:05:51,425 to make sure all the legal with the church related 148 00:05:51,425 --> 00:05:54,545 or registrar related, all the legal stuff is in place 149 00:05:54,545 --> 00:05:55,945 so that you can legally be married. 150 00:05:55,945 --> 00:05:56,785 - Yes. 151 00:05:56,785 --> 00:05:57,705 - We're not gonna be checking you out 152 00:05:57,705 --> 00:05:59,345 to see whether you are free to be married. 153 00:05:59,345 --> 00:06:01,065 That's your responsibility. 154 00:06:01,065 --> 00:06:04,825 - So another brilliant option to have a really personal ceremony 155 00:06:04,825 --> 00:06:07,425 is to have a celebrant ceremony. 156 00:06:07,425 --> 00:06:12,385 Now, celebrant ceremony is not currently legal in England 157 00:06:12,385 --> 00:06:15,505 as we're recording this in March 2025. 158 00:06:15,505 --> 00:06:18,065 - It is something that has been on the cards. 159 00:06:18,065 --> 00:06:20,505 I know for quite a long time. 160 00:06:20,505 --> 00:06:22,265 So you need to watch that space 161 00:06:22,265 --> 00:06:23,425 'cause that might change 162 00:06:23,425 --> 00:06:26,705 and they might decide to license people 163 00:06:26,705 --> 00:06:30,705 of venues which will, I think it'd be an amazing game change. 164 00:06:30,705 --> 00:06:31,865 - It'll just open up the door 165 00:06:31,865 --> 00:06:33,705 as you say to get married anywhere 166 00:06:33,705 --> 00:06:35,425 but you want to get married at home legally. 167 00:06:35,425 --> 00:06:36,265 - Yeah. 168 00:06:36,265 --> 00:06:37,105 - They can do that. 169 00:06:37,105 --> 00:06:38,585 I do believe in Scotland 170 00:06:38,585 --> 00:06:40,225 but is currently the case. 171 00:06:40,225 --> 00:06:42,785 It is not the same across England, Northern Ireland, 172 00:06:42,785 --> 00:06:44,585 Wales and Scotland at the moment. 173 00:06:44,585 --> 00:06:47,065 In some of the parts of the UK, 174 00:06:47,065 --> 00:06:49,785 it is legal to have a celebrant led wedding 175 00:06:49,785 --> 00:06:51,745 but it's definitely not in England right now 176 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:53,065 and as we're sat in Kent. 177 00:06:53,065 --> 00:06:56,465 - I'm being afraid you can't pass out there. 178 00:06:56,465 --> 00:07:00,145 - But I do believe that it is legal in Scotland. 179 00:07:00,145 --> 00:07:01,465 As you said, watch this space 180 00:07:01,465 --> 00:07:03,985 because celebrants all over the UK 181 00:07:03,985 --> 00:07:06,505 are lobbying Parliament to get that changed 182 00:07:06,505 --> 00:07:08,665 just to give couples the freedom 183 00:07:08,665 --> 00:07:11,345 to get married how and where they want. 184 00:07:11,345 --> 00:07:15,545 - The nice thing is you can include all sorts of aspects. 185 00:07:15,545 --> 00:07:18,825 So if there's just one specific part of a religion 186 00:07:18,825 --> 00:07:20,705 that means something to you personally 187 00:07:20,705 --> 00:07:23,185 that you would like involved in your ceremony, 188 00:07:23,185 --> 00:07:24,545 you can do this. 189 00:07:24,545 --> 00:07:26,985 So I've got clients this year 190 00:07:26,985 --> 00:07:28,865 that they really want to have their ceremony at home 191 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:30,345 but they're both Catholic. 192 00:07:30,345 --> 00:07:31,825 So what they would really like to do 193 00:07:31,825 --> 00:07:33,985 is bringing Catholic elements 194 00:07:33,985 --> 00:07:36,465 to their at-home ceremony. 195 00:07:36,465 --> 00:07:38,865 So it got beautifully customized ceremony 196 00:07:38,865 --> 00:07:41,305 but with Catholic elements to it 197 00:07:41,305 --> 00:07:43,505 to bring out that religious aspect 198 00:07:43,505 --> 00:07:47,465 which is just so lovely that you can have that mix 199 00:07:47,465 --> 00:07:48,985 that you can't have with a registrar 200 00:07:48,985 --> 00:07:51,145 or how you've got to be somewhere around. 201 00:07:51,145 --> 00:07:53,225 - Yes, and I think that's the key thing 202 00:07:53,225 --> 00:07:54,385 with the celebrant led wedding 203 00:07:54,385 --> 00:07:57,185 is just how much personalisation there is involved. 204 00:07:57,185 --> 00:07:59,265 We haven't actually said what a celebrant is really. 205 00:07:59,265 --> 00:08:01,345 - That would be helpful, we do. 206 00:08:01,345 --> 00:08:03,705 - We keep talking about celebrant led weddings 207 00:08:03,705 --> 00:08:05,265 but we haven't really outlined 208 00:08:05,265 --> 00:08:06,945 what a celebrant actually is. 209 00:08:06,945 --> 00:08:08,305 - It is a celebrant, yeah. 210 00:08:08,305 --> 00:08:10,985 - So a celebrant is a person who is conducting 211 00:08:10,985 --> 00:08:12,305 a non-religious ceremony. 212 00:08:12,305 --> 00:08:13,465 Well, it's basically it, isn't it? 213 00:08:13,465 --> 00:08:15,505 - Well, it's really good. 214 00:08:15,505 --> 00:08:17,265 - I'd be doing on a human. 215 00:08:17,265 --> 00:08:19,305 - Yeah, could you remind me of a dog? 216 00:08:19,305 --> 00:08:20,145 - Why not, isn't it? 217 00:08:20,145 --> 00:08:22,465 'Cause it's not legal, there's no rules around it. 218 00:08:22,465 --> 00:08:23,825 I've been to weddings as a guest 219 00:08:23,825 --> 00:08:27,505 where a host friend of the couple has taken the ceremony 220 00:08:27,505 --> 00:08:30,345 but you do have celebrants who this is their business 221 00:08:30,345 --> 00:08:33,065 and their job and as much as it would be lovely 222 00:08:33,065 --> 00:08:35,025 having a friend take the ceremony, 223 00:08:35,025 --> 00:08:38,505 if you do want it to be slightly resembling a ceremony, 224 00:08:38,505 --> 00:08:41,905 it would be a really good idea to hire in a professional 225 00:08:41,905 --> 00:08:44,105 but the benefit of hiring in a celebrant is 226 00:08:44,105 --> 00:08:46,985 that celebrant gets to know you for months 227 00:08:46,985 --> 00:08:47,985 before you're wedding day. 228 00:08:47,985 --> 00:08:50,145 - Yeah, absolute storytellers. 229 00:08:50,145 --> 00:08:53,865 I was selling the led weddings that I have planned for. 230 00:08:53,865 --> 00:08:58,105 They are the ceremonies that have brought me to tears. 231 00:08:58,105 --> 00:09:01,745 They are just so beautiful and personal 232 00:09:01,745 --> 00:09:03,265 and around the couple. 233 00:09:03,265 --> 00:09:06,985 I love a church being in a wedding and they do a sermon 234 00:09:06,985 --> 00:09:08,545 which sometimes is based around the couple, 235 00:09:08,545 --> 00:09:10,145 sometimes it's based around God. 236 00:09:10,145 --> 00:09:11,905 You never quite know what we're gonna get 237 00:09:11,905 --> 00:09:15,465 depends on the vicar was with a celebrant led service. 238 00:09:15,465 --> 00:09:18,345 It's literally, it's you, your story, 239 00:09:18,345 --> 00:09:21,385 it's your love letter to each other. 240 00:09:21,385 --> 00:09:23,785 - Yeah, and you get to meet that person before. 241 00:09:23,785 --> 00:09:27,105 So that person really feels a part of the occasion. 242 00:09:27,105 --> 00:09:29,705 Like it's not just like a registrar who you've never met 243 00:09:29,705 --> 00:09:31,305 and you don't know who it is conducting 244 00:09:31,305 --> 00:09:33,345 like the most important ceremony. 245 00:09:33,345 --> 00:09:36,145 And there's such a wide range of celebrants out there 246 00:09:36,145 --> 00:09:41,145 from the Jiggen's to quite quirky to... 247 00:09:41,145 --> 00:09:43,785 - Totally, there's a unique story. 248 00:09:43,785 --> 00:09:45,505 - Yes, unique people. 249 00:09:45,505 --> 00:09:48,665 Finding the right celebrant for you is important. 250 00:09:48,665 --> 00:09:49,825 - It's a person, yeah. 251 00:09:49,825 --> 00:09:51,665 - But there are so many out there 252 00:09:51,665 --> 00:09:53,265 and there's so many different options 253 00:09:53,265 --> 00:09:57,665 that can suit you and your style like hand-casting. 254 00:09:57,665 --> 00:09:59,985 - I had someone told me once about a couple 255 00:09:59,985 --> 00:10:03,625 who I think is Alex Hilda, the local celebrant. 256 00:10:03,625 --> 00:10:05,305 She told me about a couple who loved, 257 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:07,705 or they vowed to always like on a Friday night 258 00:10:07,705 --> 00:10:10,305 or something, have wine and chocolate at the end of the week 259 00:10:10,305 --> 00:10:11,145 to de-stress. 260 00:10:11,145 --> 00:10:13,785 So they like exchanged chocolate and wine in the ceremony 261 00:10:13,785 --> 00:10:16,625 'cause you can just do what you like. 262 00:10:16,625 --> 00:10:19,305 But yeah, or things like hand-fasting, where ribbons, 263 00:10:19,305 --> 00:10:21,145 and you can get friends to come and tie ribbons 264 00:10:21,145 --> 00:10:22,785 around your hands. 265 00:10:22,785 --> 00:10:25,065 So you're literally physically tied together. 266 00:10:25,065 --> 00:10:25,905 - Yeah, and that's really nice 267 00:10:25,905 --> 00:10:26,905 to you got children's work. 268 00:10:26,905 --> 00:10:28,105 So you can get the children involved 269 00:10:28,105 --> 00:10:29,945 and you can all tie the knots together. 270 00:10:29,945 --> 00:10:32,865 - Yeah, I mean, we could literally tie the knots together. 271 00:10:32,865 --> 00:10:34,985 Did we, you know, celebrant-led weddings 272 00:10:34,985 --> 00:10:38,425 be anything you wanted to be my first client? 273 00:10:38,425 --> 00:10:39,265 - So many. 274 00:10:39,265 --> 00:10:41,105 - Oh, yes, sound ceremony. 275 00:10:41,105 --> 00:10:43,505 - When you mix the fans, so you become one. 276 00:10:43,505 --> 00:10:44,345 - Yeah. 277 00:10:44,345 --> 00:10:47,465 - My first client was called Plan for Pepper Army, 278 00:10:47,465 --> 00:10:49,305 I think I've touched upon this before. 279 00:10:49,305 --> 00:10:50,905 It was he our exercise for them, 280 00:10:50,905 --> 00:10:52,705 but they had a celebrant-led wedding. 281 00:10:52,705 --> 00:10:54,385 Feeling because we found the couple so last minute, 282 00:10:54,385 --> 00:10:55,905 we didn't actually have time to give notice 283 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:57,185 to make it a legal one. 284 00:10:57,185 --> 00:10:59,425 So they had to go into the legal bit of the day. 285 00:10:59,425 --> 00:11:01,385 But we had celebrant-led wedding. 286 00:11:01,385 --> 00:11:03,745 They had a friend officiate the ceremony. 287 00:11:03,745 --> 00:11:05,905 And it was just totally unique to them. 288 00:11:05,905 --> 00:11:06,825 It was totally off the wall. 289 00:11:06,825 --> 00:11:10,185 We obviously had people robbing him of the hoover to him. 290 00:11:10,185 --> 00:11:12,025 - So dressed in a pack of army costume. 291 00:11:12,025 --> 00:11:14,385 - Someone was dressed as a pepper army costume. 292 00:11:14,385 --> 00:11:16,745 And, you know, when they said sort of does anyone, 293 00:11:16,745 --> 00:11:18,865 you know, they kind of made the point 294 00:11:18,865 --> 00:11:21,345 to making a joke about does anyone here know a reason why, 295 00:11:21,345 --> 00:11:22,945 and you know, the pepper army came in, 296 00:11:22,945 --> 00:11:24,585 whereas obviously in a legal ceremony, 297 00:11:24,585 --> 00:11:26,225 that is just not funny. 298 00:11:26,225 --> 00:11:27,345 That is not funny. 299 00:11:27,345 --> 00:11:29,345 And that they will actually just stop the service 300 00:11:29,345 --> 00:11:30,585 and not carry on with the wedding. 301 00:11:30,585 --> 00:11:31,425 - Yeah. 302 00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:33,465 - So, you know, a celebrant-led ceremony, 303 00:11:33,465 --> 00:11:35,385 you can have a bit more fun with things. 304 00:11:35,385 --> 00:11:36,745 You can involve people. 305 00:11:36,745 --> 00:11:38,505 You can, you can sing him. 306 00:11:38,505 --> 00:11:39,345 - You can drink him. 307 00:11:39,345 --> 00:11:41,505 - You can drink that short. 308 00:11:41,505 --> 00:11:42,505 - I'm talking about singing. 309 00:11:42,505 --> 00:11:43,785 You'll never just, you know, 310 00:11:43,785 --> 00:11:45,465 so it revolves around before. 311 00:11:45,465 --> 00:11:47,025 - Yeah, you could give everyone a shot 312 00:11:47,025 --> 00:11:49,625 to that, as you say, exchange the ring. 313 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:50,705 So you go. 314 00:11:50,705 --> 00:11:51,545 - Yeah. 315 00:11:51,545 --> 00:11:53,545 - But you can also write your own files 316 00:11:53,545 --> 00:11:55,785 and make it totally personal. 317 00:11:55,785 --> 00:11:56,625 - Yeah. 318 00:11:56,625 --> 00:11:58,185 - You know, much like exchanging chocolate 319 00:11:58,185 --> 00:11:59,305 and red wine. 320 00:11:59,305 --> 00:12:02,305 - Red wine, I can say all the things that you want. 321 00:12:02,305 --> 00:12:05,065 Like, it can be your real love letter to your partner. 322 00:12:05,065 --> 00:12:05,905 - Yeah. 323 00:12:05,905 --> 00:12:08,585 - And just be that wholesome moment. 324 00:12:08,585 --> 00:12:10,785 - I think it's really hard for us to actually tell you 325 00:12:10,785 --> 00:12:12,105 what a celebrant-led wedding is 326 00:12:12,105 --> 00:12:13,905 because opportunities are endless. 327 00:12:13,905 --> 00:12:15,665 Like, you literally could find a celebrant 328 00:12:15,665 --> 00:12:18,105 who was happy to do whatever you want 329 00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:19,545 and do it however you want. 330 00:12:19,545 --> 00:12:20,985 Whether that would change slightly 331 00:12:20,985 --> 00:12:22,865 if it does become legal, I don't know. 332 00:12:22,865 --> 00:12:23,705 - Yeah. 333 00:12:23,705 --> 00:12:26,385 - I don't know whether there would be some restrictions 334 00:12:26,385 --> 00:12:27,225 on it. 335 00:12:27,225 --> 00:12:28,985 Or we just don't know how that will look 336 00:12:28,985 --> 00:12:31,385 when, you know, when or if it comes into play. 337 00:12:31,385 --> 00:12:32,665 But you could honestly have anything. 338 00:12:32,665 --> 00:12:34,545 So, you know, they're really for the couple 339 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:37,625 who want something unique, aren't religious. 340 00:12:37,625 --> 00:12:40,065 They don't want to just get married in a registrar's office. 341 00:12:40,065 --> 00:12:42,545 You do obviously need to have the legal ceremony as well. 342 00:12:42,545 --> 00:12:44,385 - Yeah, otherwise you are not legally married. 343 00:12:44,385 --> 00:12:45,225 - No. 344 00:12:45,225 --> 00:12:48,145 So you could do that rarely happens the morning of. 345 00:12:48,145 --> 00:12:50,305 I think most people go a couple of days before 346 00:12:50,305 --> 00:12:51,465 or the day before. 347 00:12:51,465 --> 00:12:54,065 So it's a chance to either have different group of people 348 00:12:54,065 --> 00:12:56,745 or a smaller group of people at the legal ceremony. 349 00:12:56,745 --> 00:12:58,785 Well, for a nice dinner afterwards. 350 00:12:58,785 --> 00:13:02,105 Have one party and then have the actual ceremony. 351 00:13:02,105 --> 00:13:02,945 - Yeah. 352 00:13:02,945 --> 00:13:03,865 We make an occasion now. 353 00:13:03,865 --> 00:13:04,705 - Yeah. 354 00:13:04,705 --> 00:13:06,345 - I mean, dare I say it a bit like 355 00:13:06,345 --> 00:13:08,185 very American rehearsal dinner. 356 00:13:08,185 --> 00:13:09,025 - Yes. 357 00:13:09,025 --> 00:13:11,225 - But it's a very popular tradition over there 358 00:13:11,225 --> 00:13:12,945 to go and everyone has a rehearsal dinner 359 00:13:12,945 --> 00:13:15,145 the night before you can use that opportunity. 360 00:13:15,145 --> 00:13:17,505 You would legal ceremony followed by a nice meal. 361 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:18,345 - Yeah. 362 00:13:18,345 --> 00:13:20,585 - Just celebrate with your bridal parties 363 00:13:20,585 --> 00:13:22,065 in your immediate family. 364 00:13:22,065 --> 00:13:22,905 - Immediate family. 365 00:13:22,905 --> 00:13:25,225 Yeah, just a smaller group. 366 00:13:25,225 --> 00:13:26,065 - Yeah. 367 00:13:26,065 --> 00:13:29,305 - You want a different day that means something to you. 368 00:13:29,305 --> 00:13:30,145 - Exactly. 369 00:13:30,145 --> 00:13:31,985 So you must get legally married 370 00:13:31,985 --> 00:13:33,905 when you're having a celebrant led wedding as well. 371 00:13:33,905 --> 00:13:36,345 It's not legal at the moment in England. 372 00:13:36,345 --> 00:13:40,185 Natasha, what would be your tip 373 00:13:40,185 --> 00:13:44,025 for couples who are possibly looking 374 00:13:44,025 --> 00:13:46,865 to bring together few different cultures? 375 00:13:46,865 --> 00:13:49,065 If maybe they're thinking celebrant led ceremony 376 00:13:49,065 --> 00:13:50,465 isn't what they want. 377 00:13:50,465 --> 00:13:52,985 They want something maybe a bit more 378 00:13:52,985 --> 00:13:54,865 or they don't want to do the legal separately. 379 00:13:54,865 --> 00:13:58,185 They want they want a bit more of a legal. 380 00:13:58,185 --> 00:13:59,025 - Yeah. 381 00:13:59,025 --> 00:13:59,865 - Yeah. 382 00:13:59,865 --> 00:14:01,905 I mean, you could have multiple ceremonies. 383 00:14:01,905 --> 00:14:02,745 - Yeah. 384 00:14:02,745 --> 00:14:05,745 - You can have multiple ceremonies over multiple days 385 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:06,665 all in one go. 386 00:14:06,665 --> 00:14:08,665 Like you could do. 387 00:14:08,665 --> 00:14:13,345 So one couple had a churchmate and bride 388 00:14:13,345 --> 00:14:15,785 and a Jewish groom. 389 00:14:15,785 --> 00:14:17,985 Not that he was particularly Jewish, 390 00:14:17,985 --> 00:14:20,025 but his family was family religious. 391 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:22,905 So they did an legal registry office service 392 00:14:22,905 --> 00:14:26,505 and then the bride side and obviously the groom went 393 00:14:26,505 --> 00:14:28,945 and had a blessing in a church. 394 00:14:28,945 --> 00:14:32,185 So not the legal service which was there for her 395 00:14:32,185 --> 00:14:33,745 and then they had the reception afterwards. 396 00:14:33,745 --> 00:14:36,545 So you could choose to do that in any which way. 397 00:14:36,545 --> 00:14:40,465 You could also, it's not necessarily legal, 398 00:14:40,465 --> 00:14:43,825 you could get an efficient from each religion 399 00:14:43,825 --> 00:14:46,065 to come along to perform your ceremony together 400 00:14:46,065 --> 00:14:47,945 and to blend the cultures. 401 00:14:47,945 --> 00:14:51,225 Multi-Sermonage, you definitely have to have one. 402 00:14:51,225 --> 00:14:53,705 To have one that's legal and the other one obviously can't, 403 00:14:53,705 --> 00:14:57,345 but most, if it's religion and blending religions 404 00:14:57,345 --> 00:15:00,585 and appeasing both families, 405 00:15:00,585 --> 00:15:03,625 then having ceremonies both sides, 406 00:15:03,625 --> 00:15:06,265 one of the blessings is definitely the way that I would go. 407 00:15:06,265 --> 00:15:08,025 - Definitely and I think you touched on something 408 00:15:08,025 --> 00:15:10,145 really key there about families 409 00:15:10,145 --> 00:15:12,465 because we would always advocate for the couple. 410 00:15:12,465 --> 00:15:14,465 It's their day, it's their marriage. 411 00:15:14,465 --> 00:15:15,625 It should be about them. 412 00:15:15,625 --> 00:15:17,265 When it comes to the ceremony 413 00:15:17,265 --> 00:15:20,865 and especially the religion is involved or culture, 414 00:15:20,865 --> 00:15:22,665 there are certain things that you sort of feel 415 00:15:22,665 --> 00:15:24,185 like you have to do for your families. 416 00:15:24,185 --> 00:15:27,745 And I think having numerous celebrations and blessings 417 00:15:27,745 --> 00:15:29,305 is a good way to incorporate that 418 00:15:29,305 --> 00:15:32,105 and to still hopefully get what you guys want as a couple. 419 00:15:32,105 --> 00:15:32,945 - Exactly. 420 00:15:32,945 --> 00:15:33,785 - Brilliant. 421 00:15:33,785 --> 00:15:35,585 So more family politics next week. 422 00:15:35,585 --> 00:15:38,025 - You can be delving to a seating plow. 423 00:15:38,025 --> 00:15:41,065 - Oh, so the make or break of every couple. 424 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:42,745 - Yeah, exactly, exactly. 425 00:15:42,745 --> 00:15:47,745 So enjoy your week off from us and much more supply 426 00:15:47,745 --> 00:15:50,025 ready for next Tuesday, yeah. 427 00:15:50,025 --> 00:15:51,825 See you then. 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