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You've got to start from the beginning. You've got to learn the Amazon platform before

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you can then take your service to market. You've sold some product

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on Amazon and it's not really working out for you. What are

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the other ways to make money is to become the Amazon agent. One of

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the questions to consider if you're thinking about becoming an Amazon agent

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is Most people who go through this Amazon journey,

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there's a lot of failure rate. And the reason why is because I'm

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Matthew Fraser and this is Amazon Ecom

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Secrets. I'll be sharing with you the secrets that helped me go from

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millions in debt to an eight-figure entrepreneur. If

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you're ready to escape the nine-to-five and live life on your terms,

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let me show you the way. Hey, welcome to Amazon Ecom Secrets.

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My name is Matthew Fraser. And in today's episode, I'm

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going to talk to you about some of the different ways where you can make money using

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Amazon. Specifically, I want to hone in on one which is very,

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very rarely spoken about, which is becoming an Amazon agent.

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Now, what is an Amazon agent? How much money do they make? And is

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this a possibility for you? This question sort

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of always comes up when I'm doing coaching calls with people is, what

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are other ways to make money on Amazon? Most people think the

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only way is to either come up with your own product or license

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another product and sell it on Amazon. But what if

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I was to tell you there's a way where you don't even have to

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own the product, you don't have to invent the product, you could

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simply become an Amazon agent, which means you're

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simply acting on behalf of another person to sell their product.

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You're managing their Amazon seller

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account. Now, sounds really simple, right? But of course,

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there's a few things that you're going to have to know before you step into

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that type of position. The first thing would be actually

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how does the Amazon ecosystem even work? How does a

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seller central account even work? And

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so that's why my clients that I see, I

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say, look, let's go through the very, very basics. Let's get

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an Amazon account open. Let's get a product, a test

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product into the system so you can learn the ecosystem, how

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to ship something in from China, how to make

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sales, how to optimize the listing, how to

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look after customers, how does the money system

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work within Amazon, you know, do you have to put money in, when do they pay you?

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Knowing all those intricacies is going to help you to

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become a better Amazon seller. And most

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people who go through this Amazon journey, look, there's no

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doubt about it, there's a lot of failure rate. There's a lot of

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failure rate. And the reason why is because In

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my opinion, they don't have a mentor or a coach because that

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is going to help you fast track your way to success within

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the Amazon space. But let's say you've gone through all that,

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you've sold some products on Amazon and it's

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not really working out for you. What are the other ways

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to make money is to become the Amazon agent. So what you

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would do is you would have to speak to other Amazon brand

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owners or just brand owners in general and put

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forward your service to them to say that you would like to manage their

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account. Most times you're going to have to get into some sort of a community

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to network and understand who are the different players, who

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could use your service. It could also mean you go knocking

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on doors and speak to existing brands,

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perhaps they're already on Amazon, you approach them, or maybe you advertise

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your service on something like Fiverr or

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Upwork so that other brands can find you as the

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Amazon agent. And the next question that always

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comes up is how do I monetize that?

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What is the system? Do I charge an hourly rate? Do

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I charge a monthly fee? Do I take a percentage of

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profits? And there's a whole heap of ways which

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you can negotiate with the brand owner

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in order to manage their account. The

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easiest way would be to do a monthly rate. And I think in

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today's economy, it's probably going to be somewhere around $1,000 to

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$2,000 a month, depending on what sort of workload is

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involved with a particular brand. If it's a huge brand, it's

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going to require a lot of work. Maybe you might want a

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bit more. But if it's a very, very small brand,

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not much work, maybe $500 even a month. Now imagine,

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let's just use the average of, say, $1,000 a month. You would

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only have to get, let's say, five brands to

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manage. And then you've got a passive income. Well, I say passive. You've

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got an income coming in that you didn't have to really do much for

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as far as stock inventory, look after all

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the expenses of operating their business. And you're just managing the brand's

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account You could make like $5,000 on the side. You could literally do

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this around a day job. Some

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of the Other ways to monetize that

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would be through not just taking a fee

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per month, but think about a percentage of

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profits. So it would be up to you to make

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great sales, and that might be through helping them optimize the

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listing, through doing PPC, which is

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pay-per-click. Perhaps you become the person who is so

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good at doing advertising within Amazon that you

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can really crank up the dial and get the advertising really

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working to increase the sales. So let's just say you can

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get a brand up to doing $100,000 a month and you

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say, look, I'm just going to take 10% of gross sales. 10% of $100,000 is $10,000. Now

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that would be, you would forfeit the upfront, let's

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say the $1,000 a month and just say, look, I'm so confident in

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what I can do for you and your brand through my agency

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that I'm going to just simply charge percentage of gross sales. So

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$10,000 would be amazing. Imagine if you could get a company and you get

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them to $250,000 a month, you're talking $25,000 to you. every

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single month. And just let me remind you, you didn't have to

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come up with the brand, you didn't have to do a trademark, you didn't have to do

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a patent, you didn't have to invest all the

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money into inventory, you didn't have to pay for

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the PPC, right? All that is still being covered by

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the brand owner. But what you're doing is you're managing the

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whole account. Now, why would a company do that?

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It's a great question. And the reason why a company would

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do that is because they're time poor. If you've got a company, let's

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say they're doing $100,000 a month on Amazon USA, but

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generally they're probably not just on Amazon USA. They've probably got a UK account.

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They've got an Australian account. They're selling through potentially their

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own Shopify store right across the world. Maybe they're

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even in bricks and mortar stores. And

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this one little piece of the puzzle of selling on Amazon is

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just something that is just taking up a lot of time for

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them or something they don't even want to do. And if you come in

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a knight in shining armor and say, I'll take that all the way

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for you, I will handle the whole account process for you and

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I'm only going to charge a percentage of sales, that could be

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a winning formula for you and

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also the brand owner. So let's talk about what

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are the negatives to being an agent

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for an Amazon account. And the negatives are really a few

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things. One is that it's not your brand. So

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you're putting in a lot of time and effort to help build this brand

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on the Amazon platform and there's no reward

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for you down the track, which means that if it was your

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brand, you could be, you're putting in a lot of time and effort into it and

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day in and day out and the brand's building, the sales are

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building and then let's say three years down

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the track, you decide to sell that brand for $5 million. That

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now is not your money, because you are just an agent. So

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here's something that I think you could possibly do. And

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I've done this in the past with one of my products.

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Now, although I wasn't an agent, I realized at some point

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that the manufacturer or the brand owner could

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sell his business. So what did I do? I put

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a clause in the contract. This is the exclusive distribution contract. I

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put a clause in there to say that if he was to sell his

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company to somebody else, and I

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was possibly removed out of the equation as the exclusive distributor

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for his product on many platforms across the world, I would

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either get one or two things. My last year's sales,

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sorry, my last year's profit as a lump sum,

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or 10% of the gross sale price,

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whichever was the greatest. Did you hear that again? My

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last year's sales profit, or 10% of

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the gross sale price of his company, whichever

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was the greatest amount. Now, we're talking this

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company has the potential to sell for anywhere from

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$50 million plus. This is a global company that I have exclusive

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distribution on. And if he was to sell for $50 million,

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what's 10% of that? That's $5 million. So

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that would be a win for me. And that was something I put in the contract to make

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sure that I wasn't left in the lurch if he was to go off and sell his business.

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So back to the agency model. Thinking

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about that, that could potentially be something you put in. However,

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If I was the brand owner and you came to me and said, I want to

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be an agent, it's probably not something I would put in there. There'd have to

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be a really, really big upside for me as the brand owner to put something in

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there like that. But what you may want to have in there is something

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to give you, let's say, the first right of refusal when

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doing an agency model for other territories. So let's

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think about this. Let's say that you are the agent for

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this particular brand in Amazon USA. You've now

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proven yourself. The sales are going so great. The brand owner

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is thrilled with you. But somebody else comes up and says they

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now want to sell that same product in the UK. Now,

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under your agreement, because you had the first right of refusal, the

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brand owner would have to offer you that territory first and

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that way you could secure that territory and then essentially another

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agency income for that whole new territory. A good question

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that comes up all the time is, should I start out as an agent?

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Yeah, particularly amongst some of my coaching clients because

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they're thinking that's the easier way to market. I don't have to

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have my own brand or my own product. And the

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answer is, it is an easier way because

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you don't have to have all those things. However, you still have to

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know the Amazon platform. There's no way that

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a brand owner is going to hand you the keys to their Amazon business if

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you don't have any experience whatsoever. So that's why I

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always say to my clients, you've got to start from the beginning. You've

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got to learn the Amazon platform. The ins and outs, I

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suggest they get a product to market so they understand the

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full process from finding something in China, shipping it all the way through to

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the USA for example, selling it, learning PPC, etc. So

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that is definitely something you need to do. You fundamentally need

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to build your knowledge, get your experience before

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you can then take your service to market. That could

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be considered another con in thinking about whether or not you

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want to be an agent for another Amazon brand. So I've just spoken about

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being an agent for a brand on Amazon. But what

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are some of the other ways you could become a seller for somebody

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else's brand, but perhaps without being an agent

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specifically? And that would be tying up someone

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else's product under an exclusive distribution agreement. And

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how does that now look as far as money? There are a

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few ways you could tie this up. One would be you

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buy the products from the brand owner for a particular cost

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and sell them on Amazon. The other way would be The

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Amazon brand owner could provide you the

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inventory, the stock, the product, for absolutely no

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money down. And that would be considered consignment sales.

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So once the product sells, you now have to pay the brand

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owner back. The other way would be, let's say,

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a consignment steal, but a profit split. So

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that would mean the product cost might be $50. You're

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going to sell the product for $100, and you've already predetermined with

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the brand owner that you're going to share the remaining $50. So you

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get $25, and the brand owner gets $25. So

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there are many different ways to split this up in

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different percentages so that it's a win for you and also a win

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for the brand owner. Now, while we're on the topic of agents and

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dealing with brand owners, I had a conversation with a friend of

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mine the other day. And he said, and he's in the Amazon space and

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he's been in the Amazon space for years and years, but he just hasn't

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made it yet. He's, he's one of these guys who he goes to a

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lot of conferences. He gets a lot of coaching from different people, but

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he just hasn't taken the steps required. And

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there's something internally, I think that that's holding him back. And

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I was talking to him about, obviously, what I do. I have an exclusive

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distribution on a health care product that I sell globally. I

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didn't invent it, OK? And I said, why

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don't you either do that, or why don't you

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become an agent? Because you understand how the Amazon system

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works. You know a lot of people. His network is vast. And

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I said, you could simply get out of your day job, which he kind of doesn't really

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want to do. Get out of your day job, and you could potentially $5,000, $10,000 a

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month simply being an agent for somebody else's brand. And

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he sort of looked down and he looked up at me and he said, Matt, I

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wouldn't want to do something like that. I said, well, why not? He said,

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well, I've just got this thing. I just feel like I

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need to own the brand. I need to become the brand owner.

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And I said, you've basically trying that, it's not even working.

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So why don't you get out of your day job by taking on agency roles

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and at least you're going to gain more experience working in the Amazon space,

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continue building up your network and then by doing the sales, you

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might also come across other products that you yourself might want to

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become the brand owner for. And I said, thinking

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about that. What about the gentleman called

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Simon Baird? One of the greatest entrepreneurial stories in

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Australian history right now. And he was the creator

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with his wife of Culture Kings. Now, as

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the owner of Culture Kings, he wasn't even selling

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his own brand. He had a store that was selling other

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people's brands. So do you think that he walks down the street

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now and is holding his head in shame because he's made all of

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his money off other people's brands? that

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he sold in his store? Absolutely not. He

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doesn't give a shit about that. He created a brand of the store,

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yeah, which is essentially he was the agent for other people's

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brands but he did it in such an incredible way that he was able to

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leverage his store power and himself to

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take his sales to the next level and ultimately do something in

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the hundreds of millions of dollars as an exit and it's now kick

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an ass on the Gold Coast, driving Lambos and stuff. So

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I said to my friend, wouldn't you rather do that than

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sit in your crappy job right now and doing absolutely nothing

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and wishing that you could be in his position? One of the questions

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to consider when if you're thinking about becoming an Amazon agent

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is, should I sign a contract to be the exclusive seller of

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a particular brand? Is that brand now trying to lock me out of

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potentially taking on extra work? And my answer to you is

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that it's really something that needs to be considered on a case-by-case basis.

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Let's say the brand that's coming to you is, let's think of a

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really, really good brand like Nike. Let's

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say Nike is coming to you and they want you to be the exclusive

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seller. You're not allowed to sell for anybody else on Amazon. What

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are you going to say? Are you going to say no? No, I don't want

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to sign that contract. You're going to say absolutely fucking yes, I'm going to

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take that deal with both hands and run with it, right? But

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if it's some obscure brand that you've never heard of that

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maybe, I don't know, is in the kitchenware niche or something and

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they're trying to tie you up, but the sales probably aren't going to be as

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big as something like a Nike or anywhere close to it, then I would,

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if it was my first deal, I may consider it because I want to get a run on the board. Because

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what I would do, though, is I would make sure that I was only going to be secured

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against, let's say, if they were in the kitchenware niche, you would say,

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look, I promise I won't sell any other kitchenware, which

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means you're open to selling other things like homewares, t-shirts,

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shoes, mechanical things, automotive, skincare

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ranges. So there's still a lot left on the table for you to go

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and secure from other brands. If you're thinking about becoming

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an Amazon brand agent, one thing

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that might come up, which comes up with some of my clients, is imposter syndrome.

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Am I good enough to be an Amazon agent?

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And what are these brands even going to say to me? How do I approach these

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brands? I don't have many runs on the board, so am

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I good enough to do it? These are all natural fears

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that a lot of people face, not just in this industry, but most

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industries. But you've got to push through those fears, and I can tell you,

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The one way to get good and break

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down those fears is to build experience

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and build knowledge. And the only way you can do that is

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by taking action. So go get an Amazon training course.

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Go meet up with a mentor like myself. Go onto YouTube

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and just do your own research and get the ball rolling because

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knowledge equals power, which equals experience, and

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you take things to the next level. So we've highlighted one

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particular method in detail about becoming an Amazon agent.

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But there are so many other ways to sell on Amazon, and

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I've covered a lot of them myself. I haven't personally done the

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agency model, but I want to tell you a story about that

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and why I wish I hadn't become the agent. And

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I was at a conference one day looking for products. And

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there was a particular brand there called Dynamic Tape. And

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this is a tape, it was like a sports tape. And the brand owner, actually the

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inventor of this Dynamic Tape was at

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the conference showcasing his products. And

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I was on the hunt for products to take to market on Amazon USA.

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And so I stumbled across this product and I thought, wow, what a fantastic product.

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It was unique. The design was unique. The

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inventor was right there. I could speak directly to him. And

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I quickly checked Amazon and realized it was a huge market. I literally

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just pulled out my phone and just started checking the details of

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what was in the US to get some sort of understanding of what the Amazon

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sports tape niche was like before I started a conversation with

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him. And it was massive, right? As you can appreciate, a huge,

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huge industry of sports tape in Amazon USA.

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So I thought, wow, this could be an incredible opportunity

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for me. And this is the thing though, as

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I looked on Amazon USA, I realized, because

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what I'm trying to find is a product that's not on Amazon USA.

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But when I looked on the app, wow, this

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product was already selling in Amazon USA. So

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how did I engage this guy? You know what I did? I approached

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him, and his name's Ryan. And, hi,

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my name's Matthew. I'm an Amazon e-com seller. I look to

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take products global. And, Ryan, you've got an

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amazing product here, I said. But I'm looking at, you've got this listed in

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Amazon USA. And you know what? It looks shit. I

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said to him, I said, it looks so bad. I said,

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what have you done? Who's controlling this? I said, you've got

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horrible pictures. And I'm not joking, they had the worst pictures you

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could possibly think of, just like done with an iPhone, right? Nothing, just

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so horrible, horrible key, no keywords, no

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title, no SEO. I think it was like one picture.

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And it really was a really bad listing. And so

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I've just told him straight out to his face, I said, man, your listing is shit. I said, these

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guys, whoever is selling your product in Amazon USA, they're

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ruining your brand. And that hit him, right?

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This is the inventor. Imagine he's put his life

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into inventing this particular sports tape. His

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face is behind it, right? If you went onto YouTube, you

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could see him everywhere. Dynamic Tape, Ryan, you'll find him. He's

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a great guy, but what had happened was, and I see this with

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a lot of inventors, is he invented the product, but

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then kind of just let it go, just sort of gave it to whoever wanted to sell it.

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And the problem with that was he just lost sight

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of the, I guess, the landscape and the possibilities of

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what Amazon provides. So some random person

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has simply picked up his product, threw it up on Amazon, and

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did a horrible, horrible job. But did you know Amazon

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is one of, if not one of, if not the largest

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search engines for products in the

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world? So when people are going to Amazon, they're typing in

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dynamic tape and boom, up comes his listing and it looks

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like crap. So what do you think that says about the

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brand? So as I'm telling this to Ryan at

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this conference or the trade show, I'm saying, look, what

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we could do is I could actually take over, we'll get rid of all

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these sellers, I'll take over the brand and we

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can start making sales together and we'll take things to a whole new level. We'll

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do better pitches, better SEO, we'll do proper PPC. And

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what ultimately ended up happening with that was I

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did a deal where we put the products into USA, no

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money down. I didn't take a single cent out of my pocket to

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put into inventory. And the deal was, it

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was on consignment. So when the product sold, I

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would then split the profit. And it was actually a 50-50 profit

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split. And he was happy with this. He was thrilled that

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I had approached him to do this deal. So

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one lesson there is don't be afraid of approaching people, especially when you see something

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like this where the listing is bad. In fact, now that I think of

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it, that could be something for you to check out. You can actually go into Amazon

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right now and just start scouring the shelves, so to

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speak, and find really, really bad

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listings. As I said before, what does a bad listing look like? It's

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got one crappy picture, it's got hardly anything in the title, it

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might just have a brand name and no other keywords, it might have no

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bullet points, it's going to have No

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SEO whatsoever. So even finding the product might even be difficult. So

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that could be something that you could do right now. Go to Amazon, find a crappy product, and

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then reach out to that brand owner and say, I've

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found your brand on Amazon. It looks, maybe, I don't

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know how you want to nuance those words. I could say to it because I was face

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to face. and say, look, I think your product

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could be better on Amazon. And look, see where it

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goes. You never know. You could end up becoming the person that

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does a deal very, very similar to this. Now, what I want to get to is how I structured

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the deal. Like I said before, consignment and a 50-50 profit

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split. So what would happen is Ryan would send, or I would

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organize with Ryan to send products into Amazon FBA in

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the US. And then after It was

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about three months. I would give him a report sort of every, I

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think it was every month, I would report to him the sales. There was

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a lot of trust here, by the way, a lot of trust. But the good thing that the brand owner should

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know, if you're watching this, is that everything in Amazon is

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documented, right? You can't really fudge the figures. You can send through reports, but

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you don't really type them up yourself, right? So there's a lot of transparency there

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for both parties. So about every three

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months I would send through the report and then we would reconcile the

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profit. Meaning that I was receiving all the money. That's

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something else to note too. I wasn't taking over his

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listing on Amazon. It was my own listing in

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my own Amazon account. And all the money was coming

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to me. So as you can imagine there, a lot of trust, right? So all

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the money's coming into my account, and then every three months we would reconcile. I

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would give him the sales report, tell him what the profit was,

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because I was also taking out of that PPC. So it was a net,

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okay, net of the cost of the goods and after Amazon fees and

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PPC. And then he would then just simply invoice me for

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whatever the split was. Now,

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ultimately, over time, I think if I looked at that compared

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to some other models, then

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you only really know in hindsight, though, to be honest. But I

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would have been better off if I charged Ryan an agency

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fee. This is where I'm getting to. I would have

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been better off if I charged Ryan an agency fee of anywhere

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from $1,000 to $2,000 a month, because that ultimately would have

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guaranteed my income. rather than

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having to work out the profit, because if I spend a lot of

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money in PPC, there could potentially be no profit, and

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then I'd be left with nothing. So he

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would then take on all the risk, I would simply manage his account, and

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then ultimately I would have ended up with a guaranteed salary,

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really, for doing all the work for his particular brand. And

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you're probably thinking, well Matt, what ultimately ended up happening with that product? Well,

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my other product, my other healthcare product became so

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big and this was the one that ultimately has done now over $40 million

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in sales. But it was kind of new around that time when I

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took on Dynamic Tape. My healthcare product got so massive that

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I really kind of just lost interest and it was just

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taking up time that was unnecessary considering how

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great my other sales were. I was kind of

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winding it down, but then what happened just when I was about to

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sort of let it go and hand the product back to the brand

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owner, the brand owner actually ended up selling his business

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to a whole new entity anyway. Now, the sales weren't

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huge, so I just said, yeah, absolutely, no problem. There

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is another lesson in this story too, because when I wound everything up,

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I was absolutely transparent and honest with him,

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because integrity in this business, particularly for me, is key.

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So I gave back all of the outstanding stock,

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we reconciled all the numbers, we got all the money, and I always

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pay things quick. I never leave people waiting. So they send the

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invoice, they get paid. Now, he then sold

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that business to another entity who took on all the sales then.

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So I was happy to kind of let it go anyway because I wasn't making

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a lot of money out of it because my other healthcare product had taken off

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by that stage. Now, integrity, as I said, integrity is key. And

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Ryan ended up contacting me, coincidentally only two weeks ago,

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and asked if I was willing to take the product back on because

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he'd done another deal with the existing company and he's taking the product back

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into his own possession. And I said, look

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Ryan, I'm really sorry but I'm actually moved on

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from doing those types of deals now. I don't do any agency or consignment

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splits really anymore. I'm open to it. If you want to contact me, I'm

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open to it, but I don't do so much of it anymore. And so

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therefore, I gave him some contacts of some other people who I know in

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the industry who could help him out anyway. So it was good though that

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he'd come back to me because I showed a lot of integrity and honesty through the whole years

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of working with him. So when thinking about the story with Ryan and

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Dynamic Tape, there's a couple of takeaways I want you to think about. One is take

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action. There was a time where I was going from trade show

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to trade show just talking to people, talking to brand owners,

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talking to the inventors, and just getting conversations going.

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I would speak to lots of people at these trade shows. And

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sometimes I'd get three leads out of it, but ultimately maybe one

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actually came through where like in Ryan's case where I actually end up

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selling his product. But if you don't go to these trade shows and

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you don't talk to people, ultimately nothing will happen. So

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that's the first takeaway. And the second takeaway is when

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you're dealing with anybody, now it doesn't matter whether it's business or

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whether it's Amazon selling, when you're dealing with people you've always

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got to come in to those relationships with honesty

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and integrity because like what's happened in my case, you

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never know what could happen in the future, and those opportunities could

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come back to you down the road. All right, thanks, guys. I really

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