Janice Porter: Trish, Hello everyone, and welcome to this
week's episode of relationships rule. I'm very excited to have
this my guest today all the way from Australia. Her name is
Trish, Springsteen, and first of all, welcome to the show. Trish,
Trish Springsteen: thank you. Janice, delighted to be here.
Well, it's
Janice Porter: my pleasure, and we've had a couple of false
starts on this before we finally actually made it to to record
today. So I'm thrilled to have you here. Trish is a
professional speaker and author of many articles and books on
the importance of effective communication for business, and
is a recognized expert in the field of speaking and
communication training. I know from just reading all about her
that she she is an expert in mentoring introverts, which I
find interesting, and she is an international best selling
author. We have shared authorship in a compilation book
of 262 amazing women, and we're both in it, so I that's how we
met, which is really cool and helps empower others to have the
confidence and self belief to make speaking easy. She says,
Get known, be seen. And she is the get known, be seen
specialist, and she has this wonderful purple hair, and
purple is her favorite color. And I think it's because she is
sending this message that she wants you to be the unicorn in
your business, as she seems to as she is in hers. So talk to me
about that first Trish, how did that come about? The purple
hair, the unicorn? I love it.
Trish Springsteen: Oh, we got 40 years or more. I'll consolidate
it. Well, I've always liked purple.
Janice Porter: You're my granddaughter. You'd be best of
friends. Yeah,
Trish Springsteen: it's just I can go into a shop or go
somewhere, and I'll reach out, and the first thing I pick up is
something purple, okay? And I've always loved it. However, when I
first left high school, which I say way back in the Jurassic
period, yes, which is a long time ago, people, I was very shy
and an introvert, but very shy. So the concept of standing out
really would have been no not for me. I only had a small group
of friends, and they were, they've been lifelong friends.
I've known them since I left high school, since primary
school, actually, which
Janice Porter: is special. That's really special five of
Trish Springsteen: us who support each other, and we've
just been there. So I did okay in business. I did different
businesses, but mostly from behind the scenes. They're very
good, good businesses. But I never believed in myself, never
thought I had a message, never thought I'd be speaking, never
thought I'd be doing what I'm doing with you now. And why my
love of purple was there. It was my private you know, I'd wear
purple. I didn't have purple hair, okay, the aha moment was
when I came to a point where I started to believe in myself. I
believed in who I was. I knew I had a message. I felt really
comfortable in being who I wanted to be. Now, along with my
love of purple, is my collection of unicorns. Ah, people say to
me, why do I collect unicorns? Why do I love unicorns? I mean,
I love all fantasy creatures, dragons, fairies, but unicorns
have a special place for me. Why? Because they are unique.
They stand out. They're special, they're magical. You don't see
them around very often, unless you really look out the corner
of your eye, you might catch a glimpse of one. So they're very
unique. And when I was starting my business, and I got my
business going, and I started to be a lot more comfortable, this
is why I say completely and honestly, I know how empowering
it is when you believe in yourself, because it gives you a
rock solid foundation. So about that time, I felt so comfortable
that I thought, You know what, I've always wanted to have my
hair purple. I always did. I love purple. I'm comfortable
with myself now. So all those people who have sort of said,
can I tell you? I thought I might like to do it. And I
thought, oh, no, you can't do that. Right? What would people
say, yeah? What would people say, Yeah, you can't do that.
And I thought, when I believed myself, I came to that
conclusion that if I wanted to do my hair purple, that was
absolutely up to me. And I was very comfortable with it didn't
worry me. I thought, This is me. If people don't like it, if
people can't handle it, that's their issue. It's not my issue.
So I went purple, and I have been for a while now. Along with
that, there's a side benefit of having purple hair. Janice, yes.
I'd benefit an especially the secret for introverts, and I'm
telling you, don't have to go and get your hair colored
purple, people, but this is a side benefit of finding your
uniqueness, being the unicorn and standing out. I just came
back from a recent trip, and I can guarantee you, everywhere I
went, people would look at me and they'd smile and they say,
Gee, I love your hair. Oh, I love the coordination. You're
awesome. Do you know what that is? For an introvert, that's a
great opening for conversation, because I don't have to start
the conversation smile. I can say thank you, and if I wanted
the conversation can continue. Or if they're just passing in
the street, which I can guarantee I can go out and at
least three people will say something to me and smile and
I'm smart. They say, smiling. So I'm giving joy to the world. I'm
giving gratitude. I am getting known and being seen in my own
subtle, perceptive way. People say, Wow, you do like purple. I
say, how perceptive of you about it breaks the conversation and
body laughs. So that's sort of how I got to that. And about,
oh, 12 months ago, I was, you know, I've been business since
2006 My business is more from a business partner where we did a
lot of corporate work morphed into mentoring and morphed into,
you know, amicable parting and where I am now. And I launched,
I was doing a business plan course to get brushing up my
skills and writing a business plan and that. And when part of
that was pitching to a group of people, and I thought, here's an
opportunity. I've got a group of organizations, companies,
different sorts of companies, but corporate type. Let me see I
can run my unicorn idea by them and see, because I've been told
along the way speaking bureaus that I was in, oh, we can't get
speaking jobs for you because you're too colorful. Your hair
is purple. You don't wear skirts and dresses when you speak, you
don't wear high heels when you speak, so no one's going to book
you, and noone wants to book you. And I said, Well, those
companies, if they if they're not booking me because of that
reason, then they're the ones I really need to speak to, because
they're not looking outside the square. And I was told to change
and I said, Excuse me. I talk about authenticity. I talk about
being genuine, about owning your uniqueness, and you want me to
change who I am. I said goodbye to those companies. So I along
that line, thought, Okay, I'm going to pitch this to some
companies, just to see if I'm really way out and not
connecting with anybody. So I launched my purple unicorn
Academy, purple unicorn Marketing Academy, um, taking
the marketing out, so I could be a little bit more general now,
but purple unicorn Academy, and I pitched it to them in a two
minute pitch, about like you would to a business and that.
And I loved it. And I said to them at the end, I said, Well,
how did the purple unicorn go? And they said, We love it
because it's unique. And I you know, I said, Do you think other
companies would like that? Yeah, companies that are looking to be
able to be seen, to be able to stand out from other people,
whether it's a small business, a one person business, or a large
organization, they're looking for something really unique.
They're looking for people who will encourage people to stand
out and to be unique, but still talk about the company. So
that's where I was. So there are so many things in there that I
can unpack for your your people who are listening to your
podcast, and that because it's owning who you are, it's having
that courage to stand up. It's being unique and owning
uniqueness and being the unicorn. Because, let's face it,
there's so many speaker coaches out there, which is what I
predominantly started with. There's so many coaches and
mentors and life coaches and accountants and lawyers, and you
name it. There's everybody trying to find their little
page, yeah. And unless you have that courage to say, Here I am,
you're only going to get a small piece of that pie. Well, and
Janice Porter: it speaks to, you know, people saying you're
supposed to, well, there's different schools of thought,
but some saying you that you know what came to me when you
were talking there was a couple of things. One was there's
enough out there for all of us. And the second is that if you
are true to who you are and know who you want to serve, they will
come in the sense that, you know, when you're very clear on
on, you know, being who you are, being true to who you are, and
being that unicorn, and the people that that will come to
you are the right people,
Trish Springsteen: absolutely, yeah, I
Janice Porter: think I love that. I'm I think that. Now do
you I have to ask you, though, I have to go back to the story
from the beginning, where I want to know, was there one specific
aha moment or something that triggered you to say, Hey, I
like who I am. I am going to, you know, do what I want to do
and be who I want to be. Was there one particular experience
or,
Trish Springsteen: um, I would share with probably share of you
two, because there's a there's a pivotal moment my life, which
changed a lot of my thinking. And then a few years after that,
there was another pivotal moment, which I guess cemented
my journey up to that point. Now the pivotal moment, and this is
a trigger warning for people who are listening watching. In 2007
we lost our son, Craig, to suicide. Now that's that's a
big, big life, big life changing moment, absolutely, and it could
have been an ending of my marriage, and coming up in
November, or at the moment, my husband, I've been married for
47 years. So we looked at each other after that, at that
moment, the next day, and we basically said to each other,
this could break or it could cement. And we agreed that we
didn't want to break it was, you know, we were breaking enough in
a whole lot of other areas. We wanted each other, so we agreed
that we would, we would talk about, we would communicate. But
we also agreed that we would live each day, when I say each
day for my son, not so much his life, but each day to celebrate
the world. And I wake up each day saying, how awesome is this
day? Because I know from personal experience, you can
wake up in the morning like we did on that day, and by the time
we went to bed that night, our whole family, our friends, the
ripple effect was enormous. Changed, and I can't undo that
moment, but I can remember him, and I can live my life to the
fullest. And he was one of the pivotal people who introduced me
to my hairdresser who I still have my hair purple, because he
was one of the people who said, Mom, if you want to go do your
hair purple, go see this guy that I go to, and he'll do it
for you. He's really good. So that was a pivotal part where I
thought, you know, I know that time is flitting, so why am I
hiding what I want to do? Why am I letting being afraid of other
people's words stop me from being what I want, because I
know time is fleeting. Now I know that it can change just
like that. We fast forward to about five years ago, six, six
years ago, and I was nominated for a Business Award, and the
nomination was for inspirational Women's Award, and I looked at
the nomination, and my very first thought was, I'm not
inspirational. What is she thinking about? This person who
nominated? What are they thinking about? I'm not
inspirational. For me, inspirational was people had
gone through domestic violence, gone through tragedy, climbed
mountains, lost their money, got it all back again, all of these
for people that were inspirational, all from my
perspective, was I help people and mentor people to be able to
have the confidence to speak, to stand up, to write their books.
That's what I do. That's not inspirational. So I marked that
nomination and I wasn't going to go any further with it until,
oh, and people, this is not what you do. It was about two hours
before the deadline, and I'm sitting there looking at this
nomination. I thought to myself, I had this aha moment. I went
bang across the face of my hand. I thought, You know what Trish,
you teach people, you mentor people, you help people to stand
up and be themselves. You tell them to reach out for
opportunities. What the blazes are you doing? Girl, you're
sitting here negating someone's thoughts. And I thought, How
dare I have the temerity to negate someone who took that
opportunity and obviously thought that I was worthy of
that nomination. How dare I ignore what Yes, absolutely. So
two hours to go, I put my nomination in. Please, people,
if you go for an award, do not leave it to two hours. You do
not want to do that, and it's not where I tell you to do what
I do, but do what I say. Do it a long time before then. So I did,
and then I just ignored it all because I thought I have
acknowledged, yeah, what that person has done for me. And I
thought that was important, because I was being extremely
arrogant to ignore that, so I acknowledge that and and out of
that, I learnt to accept of gratitude, to understand that
what I see is not always what other people see. So I wasn't
even going to go to the awards. Now, I thought I'd done it
because honest to people, I did not believe that I was
inspirational, even though I had put the nomination Interesting,
yeah, and then I had some friends who dragged me along.
You gotta go. You gotta go get a dress. Come along. So I thought
I would. Long story short, I won. I won that inspirational
woman's award, and my friend said the look on my face was
complete and utter shock. I honestly did not think I was
inspirational. I did not think that I would be getting it. So
what that taught me, which cemented that believing in
myself and the power that what everything I've been doing, the
testimonials that I've received, the credibility from another
award, which was about I'd won an award for mentor, a worldwide
award for mentor of the year. All of those came to my aha
moment in that you do not see others. You know we do not see
ourselves as others. See us absolutely yeah. And if people
say, Thank you, if people say, Wow, you changed my life, if
people say, you inspired me, or something that you said has
helped me to stand up and share what I believe in, the automatic
reaction that we as women have where we say, Oh, that was
nothing. Well, it is where I stop now and I say, Thank you. A
simple thank you. I have learned to accept gratitude and
understand that the impact I have I don't always see.
Janice Porter: You know, that's huge, because I always remember
my mother, God, rest her soul. She was always if somebody, she
was always sending thank you notes or doing little good
things for lots of people. But if somebody gave her something,
whether it was a thank you note or took her out or did whatever
she she would always have to, like, do the thank you back like
she didn't know how to say thank you. Just say thank you and
accept it. She had to do it for them as well. And and I remember
later in her life saying my sister and I, you know, saying
Mom, just say thank you. Just say thank you. It's okay, you
know, you just let it sink in. You don't have to do, you know,
and, and it comes from, probably, upbringing. It comes
from, you know, not in her case, you know, getting getting
married at 19, and never finishing school, and all of
that stuff where she was, you know, in that, yeah, and then
talking in the head. But anyway, it's just really interesting. So
you talk about, I know one of the things you talk about is
mastering the art of conversation, and that interests
me, because, again, from your interest, introvert perspective,
because with the work that I do, and the work I'm referring to is
the work I do on teaching people how to leverage LinkedIn to
generate leads and to grow their businesses. Well, in order to be
able to do that, you have to be able to have a conversation with
people. And I'm often really taken aback by how many people
when I'm teaching this kind of method that I do around it,
they'll go, Well, what should I say in the message, like, like,
they have no idea. And to me, that's just comes naturally
because I'm curious and because I I'm maybe because I'm
outgoing, I don't know, but what's your take on that? And
what do you advise people to to master that art of conversation
Trish Springsteen: as an introvert, making that first
step to have a conversation is a very hard thing for many of us
Janice Porter: mentioned that. So yes, I hear that. Yes, it is
Trish Springsteen: very hard. It's an introvert can be I mean,
they're labels, and I really don't like labels, but we deal
with what we have to do. An introvert doesn't isn't always
shy, right? Introvert means shy. They're two different things. I
was a shy introvert. I'm not so much shy now, but I'm still an
introvert, and an introvert, from my perspective, is just on
an energy basis, right? We prefer to be by ourselves to get
energy, large crowds, large lots of people. Having to step
outside of our little shell is takes a lot of energy. Yeah, and
it works. I don't want to get that energy so they're quite
comfortable staying where they are, which is fine. Uh, except
if you've got a business, if you've got a message, if you
want to get along in life, and basically any of those. So I'm
sorry you're introverts. You really can't stay there. You've
got to get that courage up to step outside that comfort zone.
And it just means knowing that I can step outside my comfort
zone, I can start a conversation, I can go to a
meeting, but if I get overwhelmed, I can easily step
back and take some minutes outside, get my energy back and
continue, which is why I talk about being an introvert
speaker, and how I've got to where I am now and why I can do
these things. Yes, people, I do have problems starting a
conversation even now, and I'm talking, you know, 14 years, 15
years, after a lot of things that I've done, I can sit
outside a new I had to go to a new network meeting not too long
ago. Never, didn't know person there, really, other than
someone I spoke to online. And I sat in the car for about five
minutes thinking, I think I feel well, I could go home. I could
think of all the excuses on the world not to walk through that
door, except for one, and that one is important, because I know
that I talk about giving your brand a voice. I know that it's
so easy to stand behind your labels, your in your logos, your
the website, all of that, and it's you that people want to
know. So I took a deep breath and I walked in now,
conversations. Well, my purple hair helps me a lot with that,
and I'm not telling you to go and get your hair purple, but
what I'm saying is that questions are great. I use
questions. I start with a question, and the easiest one
is, oh, what do you do? I mean that that's an easy one, except
a lot of people don't know how to answer that, and it can close
the conversation down because three words and you've got no
idea where to go with that then I know. I mean, I've started
with that question and thought, freaking Hell, where am I going
now? Because I didn't actually tell me anything, and there were
probably introverts who didn't know how to answer. So it's,
it's being like, let me just go back to LinkedIn, starting a
conversation on LinkedIn. One of the things I sort of say is, how
can I assist you? Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for
connecting. How can I assist you up to a conversation?
Janice Porter: So let's stop there for a second. Because
whether so for me, if I'm teaching someone how to start
that conversation on LinkedIn, I think that's easier than
starting the conversation in person at the networking event
where you don't know anybody because you've got all of their
stuff in front of you. Yeah, right. So if you do your
homework and you look for a point of commonality, whether
it's the weather, where they live, whether it's a school they
went to, it doesn't matter. It's just something that can start
the rapport building. To me, that seems logical, but
probably, when you're an introvert, there's so many
anxiety things that come into play that you might not make
it's not so easy, I suppose. Well, part
Trish Springsteen: of the introvert, it's not so much the
anxiety, that's the confidence level confidence is which kicks
off the anxiety to for certain extent, an introvert is quite
comfortable where they are, so getting the confidence to step
outside of where they are is what the next step is, and
that's about Understanding that you have to stand up in your
business. If you're on LinkedIn, we'll deal with LinkedIn. If
you're on LinkedIn, you're there because it's business to
business. Yep, you're there because you've got a business,
you've got a book, you've got a message, you've got something
that you want to connect with people, right? Otherwise, why
are you there? You
Janice Porter: want business. That's, yeah, you want business.
That's really the bottom line, right? But you don't always know
how to go about it the right way. That's all
Trish Springsteen: and and I can relate with them. I know that I
had to teach myself. I thought, you know, just put everything up
so it'll come to me.
Janice Porter: Yeah, no. So going into that face to face
networking event, let's just talk about that again in the
sense that, okay, you don't know what you're going to say to
people and and if you have to start the conversation, and I
love that you said that you think of a question. But the
question that I like to ask, if that's what I'm going to start
with, if I'm going to start the conversation, there is, you
know, what brought you here? You know, because then that's a
little less challenging for them. And did you know anybody
here? You know, like I came, I don't know anybody, but I'm so
glad to meet you. But you know, so on, and then ease into you
know, so you know, what do you do when you're not. Kind of
thing. But I always find it really interesting though, that
the the nervous people are the people that don't stop talking
when you answer the when you ask them the question, right?
Because really, that's not the place for the whole nine yards.
It's only for the, you know, the little bit. So it's
Trish Springsteen: so relieved that someone asks them something
that they'll just dump your whole their whole life story.
And I love that. I just think that's great because, actually,
they're extroverts, because extroverts will share
everything. They're extroverts who are very nervous extroverts,
because just because you're an extrovert doesn't mean to say
you're full of confidence. No, that's true. You're an introvert
doesn't mean to say you don't have any competence, right? No,
for sure, it's just your preference as to where you want
to be and how you want to act.
Janice Porter: It's your energy, what? Right? Okay, it's just
your energy. And
Trish Springsteen: when you an introvert, your energy comes
from not being around people. You comes from being quiet and
silent and doing all the things that you like to do so you work
on on, knowing that you know where your levels are, and you
know that if you do start to get overwhelmed, you can just step
back a bit, right, and just take that deep breath. Um, extroverts
just overwhelm people because they're so excited to be where
they are, and their energy comes from all the people around them
that they can be so overwhelming that their problem is they don't
listen, they don't actually make a connection, because they're so
busy giving everybody. Let's
Janice Porter: not generalize. Let's not generalize.
Trish Springsteen: I'm not saying what you're saying. Yes,
that's that's a trap that a lot of extroverts end up in because
they need to harness that and focus and learn to listen to
people as well. It's a two way. Conversation is a two way,
Janice Porter: exactly. So you talk about being a mentor and
being a coach as well as being a speaker and an author. Okay, you
do all of these things, amazing. Um, do you is the mentoring like
a labor of love, or is or like, how do you see that in terms of
coaching versus mentoring, versus, say, training? Because
people use them in different ways, and I know how I think of
it.
Trish Springsteen: So it's a conversation that you can sit
and talk with someone for hours about what the definition of a
coach is, what the definition of a mentor is, what the definition
of a trainer is, and really it's none of this. You've got those
dictionary definitions which really don't apply, because
we're all individuals. We're all unique, and we bring our own
different life experiences to each of those little segments.
So while there's an overall concept that a coach is about
teaching people and and giving them all the things to be able
to change, and a mentor is about supporting and helping them to
take that and include it and go on, which is sort of my sort of
definition. And a trainer is someone who sits there and wants
to change palm Hall's attitude, but in a workshop, more
environment, which is Okay, interesting. My my sort of
definitions, I always, from my perspective, think I'm a blend
of a mentor and a coach, okay, because I might start coaching
someone my public speaking skills, yeah, just giving them
change, giving them information, giving them techniques and
strategies to be able to and then what often more does is
that more into mentoring. And mentoring is my passion. It's,
it's, I guess you could say it's my love, because, from my
perspective, a mentor, a mentor pushes you outside your comfort
zone. A mentor challenges you, asks the difficult questions,
holds a mirror up for you to see yourself, and then is there to
catch you if you fall, and provide a support to say that's
okay, try something different and push you up to fly again.
That's my personal concept of a mentor. So when I'm coaching,
I'm giving strategies, I'm giving techniques on a
particular skill way. And then when I'm mentoring, I'm looking
at the whole person and how their business goes, how they
react, their mindset, their thoughts, their their courage,
their belief in themselves, how they see whether they're unique,
and I'm providing that support. I don't always give answers when
I'm mentoring, right? I ask questions. Okay? I push the
questions for them to look deep to find where they're going, and
I listen when I'm training in a workshop, I'm in front of people
online or offline. And I'm again giving skills training, but I've
only got a short time with them, so I'm training to change their
something, from their what they're doing now, to there, and
making sure that within that short time I have they've got
something that's changed their thought processes or change
their skills. It's a short time. And I guess, from my
perspective, that's my precious definitions of coach, mentor and
training. Okay,
Janice Porter: okay, that's awesome. So what are you working
on right now? I think you've got a program coming up that sounds
interesting. You told me a little bit before we went on
air.
Trish Springsteen: Yes, what I'm working on now, because my two
favor my favorite sayings. I'll just share those, because it
came out of this. It's my favorite sayings. I believe in
you until you believe in yourself. Because I think people
and that comes, I guess, from mentoring and that they need
someone there to believe in them until they can take that belief
and have it internal. I also believe my other saying is, get
known, be seen, which comes with being the unicorn in your
business. You you. It's no good having your book. It's no good
having a service, a message, a business that's the best damn
thing, or a product. If people can't find you, right? If people
don't know that's who you are. So I'm help people to get known
and be seen. And along with that, is repurpose and leverage,
and my 60 seconds of insane courage, all of those together,
is about getting outside yourself and being known and
being seen. Now when I talk about getting and be seen, it
could be writing a book. It could be writing a chapter in a
book. It could be blogging. It could be doing videos. There's a
whole range of things that you can do to be an RBC, but from my
perspective and my journey, I believe wholeheartedly that
underpinning every one of those things are good speaking and
communication skills, if you can speak, and if you can do
communication and communicate well, you've got a solid
foundation to build all the rest on. And speaking is one
absolutely fantastic way of being known being seen, because
it's one that you should be addressing and enhancing your
skills in from the time that you decide that you want to Well, my
view is, from the time that you leave high school, even before
high school, before that in school, you should be learning
speaking skills. Because no matter what you do, whether you
go to a business, whether you are going to work in an
organization, you need to be spoke, be able to speak, to
share who you are, to sell yourself, interview. That's what
you're doing. Right in a business, you need to showcase
so part of that in a business is what we call putting together a
keynote speech. Now it's probably a word that's got
different meanings different people. If you're going to be
speaking in a big conference, a keynote is usually the one that
opens or closes, right? I think it's a big motivational type
speech in in the perspective of your business. My sort of thing
saying a keynote is your your fallback speech that you can
pull out and say, This is what I do, or this is how I inspire
people, or sharing something that is about you and about your
business that you can pull out and share whether you're going
to be speaking anywhere. You can say, that's my, well, I guess my
keynote, that's my, my my showcase speech, that's that's
what I fall back on if I need to do anything. So what I wanted to
do was to bring all of those together. So I've got a I
launched a speaker package this year. It's called a speaker
package, and what it does I spend three sessions with you
online, helping you to craft that signature speech, that
keynote speech, your signature speech, helping you to craft
that then what part of the package is that, then we turn
that signature speech into a chapter into my next volume of
get none be seen compilation. Nice. So now you've hit two
parts. You've now got a signature speech that you can
comfortably get up and share whatever time you want. You can
expand or contract that, right? You now become an author, which
means you're now being seen in a different medium. Yeah, I also
then offer you a interview in my magazine. See now you're being
seen again in a different medium, and an interview on my
get none be seen web TV. You've now got about four different
ways of being known, being seen. Then that's that basic package.
If you want to pay an upgrade, a little bit extra in the end of
this year for those who are in around my area, or for because
it's global, it's online or offline, there's two options for
those online, who are watching, who'd like to join. I will hold
a summit at the end of the year where you get to present your
signature keynote speech. It will be video. It. You now
presenting it, and we'll put it out there to you know, you can
invite the people along to that summit. You've got other people
who on that summit. You've now got another way that you've been
seen. And the video of that speech, you get to use whatever
for those who are local, we are holding it in on in a room, on
stage, and I've got a videographer doing that. So
that's my speaker package, which I put together because it, I
guess, brings together my all my favorite 60 seconds of insane
courage to step outside what you're doing. I'm believing in
you so that you can do it and get no BC, so that you get out
there and repurposing and leveraging, showing you how you
can repurpose and leverage one piece of thing into another,
your signature speech into a chapter in a book, and you're
now getting out there being seen.
Janice Porter: Love it. And I can tell you love what you do,
so I'm sure that it will get filled and be a big success. So
I love it. That's great. Okay, before we wrap up, I want to ask
you one last question that I like to sometimes ask my guests,
and this is about my favorite word, curiosity. So I would like
to know your thoughts on whether you think curiosity is innate or
learned, and what you are most curious about these days. Love
that
Trish Springsteen: you can take it both ways. I'm I'm one of
those Devil's advocates, but I think for most people, Curiosity
is innate, okay, however, I also think it's learned, because you
may have that impulse to be curious about something, but
unless you have the courage the self belief, it may not go
anywhere. So I think while we have the seeds of curiosity
inside us. Sometimes we have to have the external influence to
help us learn. It's okay to be curious. It's okay to take step
outside and take that curiosity and find out where it will take
you. And unfortunately, from my perspective, too many people let
that curiosity see die inside them, because they haven't got
that courage to go and see okay, I'd like to know more about
that. Let's go and find out. So I think it's a combination of
both, Okay,
Janice Porter: fair enough. And what are you most curious about
these days?
Trish Springsteen: What am I most curious about I'm I'm
curious about living. I'm curious about the opportunities
that come that I can reach out and be be more part of life. I'm
curious to see whether I can actually finish this book I've
been writing for the last four years. Okay, and I've managed to
go over roadblock of that. I'm curious about the people that
I'm going to meet, and where will that take me. I'm curious
about, Shall I book this trip to China next year or not? Who have
my bucket list on that Eclipse, the Terracotta Warriors and the
Great Portland casting, fantastic. So I'm just curious
to see where my life will take me. I have so much more living
to do.
It's,
it's just curiosity about what's what's out there, what's the
world love? What's
Janice Porter: next for you? Well, that's great. Thank you.
Thank you so much for that. And one last, one last little thing,
your favorite or best piece of advice for my audience,
Trish Springsteen: I guess my best piece of advice is my 60
seconds of insane coverage. It's 20 seconds to acknowledge that
there's a negative voice saying, I can't do this. Don't be
curious. I can't step up 20 seconds to say, Stop. I can do
this. Bring the positives back in. I can be curious, and I can
accept and I can explore. I can speak, I can go out, and then 20
seconds to smile and just smile and say yes to any opportunity
that comes, and live your life to the fullest. Fantastic.
Janice Porter: I love it. And of course, it made me smile. I love
that. Thank you. Thank you for that and for for your wisdom. I
will put in the show notes how people can get hold of you. I'm
assuming it's your website. Yes. Trish springsteen.com, yep.
Okay, and anything else you might want me to put on there
and to my. Audience, as usual, thank you for being here. I
appreciate you, and remember to stay connected and be
remembered. Bye, bye.