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Janice Porter: Trish, Hello
everyone, and welcome to this

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week's episode of relationships
rule. I'm very excited to have

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this my guest today all the way
from Australia. Her name is

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Trish, Springsteen, and first of
all, welcome to the show. Trish,

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Trish Springsteen: thank you.
Janice, delighted to be here.

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Well, it's

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Janice Porter: my pleasure, and
we've had a couple of false

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starts on this before we finally
actually made it to to record

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today. So I'm thrilled to have
you here. Trish is a

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professional speaker and author
of many articles and books on

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the importance of effective
communication for business, and

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is a recognized expert in the
field of speaking and

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communication training. I know
from just reading all about her

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that she she is an expert in
mentoring introverts, which I

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find interesting, and she is an
international best selling

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author. We have shared
authorship in a compilation book

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of 262 amazing women, and we're
both in it, so I that's how we

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met, which is really cool and
helps empower others to have the

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confidence and self belief to
make speaking easy. She says,

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Get known, be seen. And she is
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specialist, and she has this
wonderful purple hair, and

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purple is her favorite color.
And I think it's because she is

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sending this message that she
wants you to be the unicorn in

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your business, as she seems to
as she is in hers. So talk to me

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about that first Trish, how did
that come about? The purple

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hair, the unicorn? I love it.

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Trish Springsteen: Oh, we got 40
years or more. I'll consolidate

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it. Well, I've always liked
purple.

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Janice Porter: You're my
granddaughter. You'd be best of

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friends. Yeah,

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Trish Springsteen: it's just I
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somewhere, and I'll reach out,
and the first thing I pick up is

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something purple, okay? And I've
always loved it. However, when I

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first left high school, which I
say way back in the Jurassic

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period, yes, which is a long
time ago, people, I was very shy

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and an introvert, but very shy.
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really would have been no not
for me. I only had a small group

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of friends, and they were,
they've been lifelong friends.

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I've known them since I left
high school, since primary

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school, actually, which

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Janice Porter: is special.
That's really special five of

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Trish Springsteen: us who
support each other, and we've

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just been there. So I did okay
in business. I did different

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businesses, but mostly from
behind the scenes. They're very

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good, good businesses. But I
never believed in myself, never

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thought I had a message, never
thought I'd be speaking, never

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thought I'd be doing what I'm
doing with you now. And why my

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love of purple was there. It was
my private you know, I'd wear

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purple. I didn't have purple
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when I came to a point where I
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believed in who I was. I knew I
had a message. I felt really

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comfortable in being who I
wanted to be. Now, along with my

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love of purple, is my collection
of unicorns. Ah, people say to

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me, why do I collect unicorns?
Why do I love unicorns? I mean,

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I love all fantasy creatures,
dragons, fairies, but unicorns

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have a special place for me.
Why? Because they are unique.

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They stand out. They're special,
they're magical. You don't see

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them around very often, unless
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of your eye, you might catch a
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unique. And when I was starting
my business, and I got my

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business going, and I started to
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is why I say completely and
honestly, I know how empowering

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it is when you believe in
yourself, because it gives you a

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rock solid foundation. So about
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that I thought, You know what,
I've always wanted to have my

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hair purple. I always did. I
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with myself now. So all those
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can I tell you? I thought I
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thought, oh, no, you can't do
that. Right? What would people

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say, yeah? What would people
say, Yeah, you can't do that.

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And I thought, when I believed
myself, I came to that

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conclusion that if I wanted to
do my hair purple, that was

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absolutely up to me. And I was
very comfortable with it didn't

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worry me. I thought, This is me.
If people don't like it, if

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people can't handle it, that's
their issue. It's not my issue.

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So I went purple, and I have
been for a while now. Along with

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that, there's a side benefit of
having purple hair. Janice, yes.

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I'd benefit an especially the
secret for introverts, and I'm

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telling you, don't have to go
and get your hair colored

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purple, people, but this is a
side benefit of finding your

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uniqueness, being the unicorn
and standing out. I just came

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back from a recent trip, and I
can guarantee you, everywhere I

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went, people would look at me
and they'd smile and they say,

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Gee, I love your hair. Oh, I
love the coordination. You're

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awesome. Do you know what that
is? For an introvert, that's a

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great opening for conversation,
because I don't have to start

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the conversation smile. I can
say thank you, and if I wanted

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the conversation can continue.
Or if they're just passing in

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the street, which I can
guarantee I can go out and at

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least three people will say
something to me and smile and

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I'm smart. They say, smiling. So
I'm giving joy to the world. I'm

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giving gratitude. I am getting
known and being seen in my own

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subtle, perceptive way. People
say, Wow, you do like purple. I

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say, how perceptive of you about
it breaks the conversation and

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body laughs. So that's sort of
how I got to that. And about,

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oh, 12 months ago, I was, you
know, I've been business since

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2006 My business is more from a
business partner where we did a

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lot of corporate work morphed
into mentoring and morphed into,

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you know, amicable parting and
where I am now. And I launched,

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I was doing a business plan
course to get brushing up my

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skills and writing a business
plan and that. And when part of

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that was pitching to a group of
people, and I thought, here's an

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opportunity. I've got a group of
organizations, companies,

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different sorts of companies,
but corporate type. Let me see I

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can run my unicorn idea by them
and see, because I've been told

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along the way speaking bureaus
that I was in, oh, we can't get

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speaking jobs for you because
you're too colorful. Your hair

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is purple. You don't wear skirts
and dresses when you speak, you

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don't wear high heels when you
speak, so no one's going to book

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you, and noone wants to book
you. And I said, Well, those

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companies, if they if they're
not booking me because of that

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reason, then they're the ones I
really need to speak to, because

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they're not looking outside the
square. And I was told to change

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and I said, Excuse me. I talk
about authenticity. I talk about

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being genuine, about owning your
uniqueness, and you want me to

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change who I am. I said goodbye
to those companies. So I along

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that line, thought, Okay, I'm
going to pitch this to some

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companies, just to see if I'm
really way out and not

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connecting with anybody. So I
launched my purple unicorn

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Academy, purple unicorn
Marketing Academy, um, taking

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the marketing out, so I could be
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but purple unicorn Academy, and
I pitched it to them in a two

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minute pitch, about like you
would to a business and that.

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And I loved it. And I said to
them at the end, I said, Well,

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how did the purple unicorn go?
And they said, We love it

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because it's unique. And I you
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companies would like that? Yeah,
companies that are looking to be

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able to be seen, to be able to
stand out from other people,

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whether it's a small business, a
one person business, or a large

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organization, they're looking
for something really unique.

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They're looking for people who
will encourage people to stand

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out and to be unique, but still
talk about the company. So

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that's where I was. So there are
so many things in there that I

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can unpack for your your people
who are listening to your

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podcast, and that because it's
owning who you are, it's having

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that courage to stand up. It's
being unique and owning

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uniqueness and being the
unicorn. Because, let's face it,

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there's so many speaker coaches
out there, which is what I

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predominantly started with.
There's so many coaches and

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mentors and life coaches and
accountants and lawyers, and you

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name it. There's everybody
trying to find their little

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page, yeah. And unless you have
that courage to say, Here I am,

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you're only going to get a small
piece of that pie. Well, and

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Janice Porter: it speaks to, you
know, people saying you're

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supposed to, well, there's
different schools of thought,

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but some saying you that you
know what came to me when you

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were talking there was a couple
of things. One was there's

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enough out there for all of us.
And the second is that if you

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are true to who you are and know
who you want to serve, they will

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come in the sense that, you
know, when you're very clear on

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on, you know, being who you are,
being true to who you are, and

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being that unicorn, and the
people that that will come to

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you are the right people,

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Trish Springsteen: absolutely,
yeah, I

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Janice Porter: think I love
that. I'm I think that. Now do

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you I have to ask you, though, I
have to go back to the story

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from the beginning, where I want
to know, was there one specific

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aha moment or something that
triggered you to say, Hey, I

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like who I am. I am going to,
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and be who I want to be. Was
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or,

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Trish Springsteen: um, I would
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two, because there's a there's a
pivotal moment my life, which

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changed a lot of my thinking.
And then a few years after that,

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there was another pivotal
moment, which I guess cemented

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my journey up to that point. Now
the pivotal moment, and this is

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a trigger warning for people who
are listening watching. In 2007

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we lost our son, Craig, to
suicide. Now that's that's a

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big, big life, big life changing
moment, absolutely, and it could

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have been an ending of my
marriage, and coming up in

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November, or at the moment, my
husband, I've been married for

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47 years. So we looked at each
other after that, at that

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moment, the next day, and we
basically said to each other,

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this could break or it could
cement. And we agreed that we

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didn't want to break it was, you
know, we were breaking enough in

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a whole lot of other areas. We
wanted each other, so we agreed

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that we would, we would talk
about, we would communicate. But

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we also agreed that we would
live each day, when I say each

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day for my son, not so much his
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the world. And I wake up each
day saying, how awesome is this

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day? Because I know from
personal experience, you can

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wake up in the morning like we
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we went to bed that night, our
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ripple effect was enormous.
Changed, and I can't undo that

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moment, but I can remember him,
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fullest. And he was one of the
pivotal people who introduced me

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to my hairdresser who I still
have my hair purple, because he

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was one of the people who said,
Mom, if you want to go do your

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hair purple, go see this guy
that I go to, and he'll do it

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for you. He's really good. So
that was a pivotal part where I

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thought, you know, I know that
time is flitting, so why am I

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hiding what I want to do? Why am
I letting being afraid of other

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people's words stop me from
being what I want, because I

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know time is fleeting. Now I
know that it can change just

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like that. We fast forward to
about five years ago, six, six

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years ago, and I was nominated
for a Business Award, and the

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nomination was for inspirational
Women's Award, and I looked at

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the nomination, and my very
first thought was, I'm not

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inspirational. What is she
thinking about? This person who

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nominated? What are they
thinking about? I'm not

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inspirational. For me,
inspirational was people had

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gone through domestic violence,
gone through tragedy, climbed

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mountains, lost their money, got
it all back again, all of these

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for people that were
inspirational, all from my

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perspective, was I help people
and mentor people to be able to

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have the confidence to speak, to
stand up, to write their books.

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That's what I do. That's not
inspirational. So I marked that

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nomination and I wasn't going to
go any further with it until,

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oh, and people, this is not what
you do. It was about two hours

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before the deadline, and I'm
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nomination. I thought to myself,
I had this aha moment. I went

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bang across the face of my hand.
I thought, You know what Trish,

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you teach people, you mentor
people, you help people to stand

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up and be themselves. You tell
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opportunities. What the blazes
are you doing? Girl, you're

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sitting here negating someone's
thoughts. And I thought, How

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dare I have the temerity to
negate someone who took that

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opportunity and obviously
thought that I was worthy of

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that nomination. How dare I
ignore what Yes, absolutely. So

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two hours to go, I put my
nomination in. Please, people,

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if you go for an award, do not
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not want to do that, and it's
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I do, but do what I say. Do it a
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and then I just ignored it all
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acknowledged, yeah, what that
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thought that was important,
because I was being extremely

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arrogant to ignore that, so I
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that, I learnt to accept of
gratitude, to understand that

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what I see is not always what
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even going to go to the awards.
Now, I thought I'd done it

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inspirational, even though I had
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yeah, and then I had some
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I would. Long story short, I
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woman's award, and my friend
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complete and utter shock. I
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inspirational. I did not think
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what that taught me, which
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myself and the power that what
everything I've been doing, the

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testimonials that I've received,
the credibility from another

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award, which was about I'd won
an award for mentor, a worldwide

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award for mentor of the year.
All of those came to my aha

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moment in that you do not see
others. You know we do not see

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ourselves as others. See us
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say, Thank you, if people say,
Wow, you changed my life, if

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people say, you inspired me, or
something that you said has

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helped me to stand up and share
what I believe in, the automatic

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reaction that we as women have
where we say, Oh, that was

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nothing. Well, it is where I
stop now and I say, Thank you. A

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simple thank you. I have learned
to accept gratitude and

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understand that the impact I
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Janice Porter: You know, that's
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my mother, God, rest her soul.
She was always if somebody, she

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was always sending thank you
notes or doing little good

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things for lots of people. But
if somebody gave her something,

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whether it was a thank you note
or took her out or did whatever

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she she would always have to,
like, do the thank you back like

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she didn't know how to say thank
you. Just say thank you and

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accept it. She had to do it for
them as well. And and I remember

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later in her life saying my
sister and I, you know, saying

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Mom, just say thank you. Just
say thank you. It's okay, you

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know, you just let it sink in.
You don't have to do, you know,

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and, and it comes from,
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from, you know, not in her case,
you know, getting getting

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married at 19, and never
finishing school, and all of

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that stuff where she was, you
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talking in the head. But anyway,
it's just really interesting. So

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you talk about, I know one of
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mastering the art of
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me, because, again, from your
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because with the work that I do,
and the work I'm referring to is

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the work I do on teaching people
how to leverage LinkedIn to

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generate leads and to grow their
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able to do that, you have to be
able to have a conversation with

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people. And I'm often really
taken aback by how many people

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when I'm teaching this kind of
method that I do around it,

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they'll go, Well, what should I
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they have no idea. And to me,
that's just comes naturally

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because I'm curious and because
I I'm maybe because I'm

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outgoing, I don't know, but
what's your take on that? And

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what do you advise people to to
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Trish Springsteen: as an
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step to have a conversation is a
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Janice Porter: mentioned that.
So yes, I hear that. Yes, it is

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Trish Springsteen: very hard.
It's an introvert can be I mean,

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they're labels, and I really
don't like labels, but we deal

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with what we have to do. An
introvert doesn't isn't always

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shy, right? Introvert means shy.
They're two different things. I

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was a shy introvert. I'm not so
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introvert, and an introvert,
from my perspective, is just on

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an energy basis, right? We
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energy, large crowds, large lots
of people. Having to step

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outside of our little shell is
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it works. I don't want to get
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comfortable staying where they
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if you've got a business, if
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want to get along in life, and
basically any of those. So I'm

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sorry you're introverts. You
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got to get that courage up to
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can step outside my comfort

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zone, I can start a
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meeting, but if I get
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back and take some minutes
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continue, which is why I talk
about being an introvert

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speaker, and how I've got to
where I am now and why I can do

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these things. Yes, people, I do
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conversation even now, and I'm
talking, you know, 14 years, 15

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years, after a lot of things
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outside a new I had to go to a
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ago. Never, didn't know person
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someone I spoke to online. And I
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minutes thinking, I think I feel
well, I could go home. I could

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think of all the excuses on the
world not to walk through that

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door, except for one, and that
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that I talk about giving your
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so easy to stand behind your
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the website, all of that, and
it's you that people want to

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know. So I took a deep breath
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conversations. Well, my purple
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and I'm not telling you to go
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what I'm saying is that
questions are great. I use

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questions. I start with a
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is, oh, what do you do? I mean
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a lot of people don't know how
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the conversation down because
three words and you've got no

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idea where to go with that then
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with that question and thought,
freaking Hell, where am I going

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now? Because I didn't actually
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probably introverts who didn't
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it's being like, let me just go
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conversation on LinkedIn. One of
the things I sort of say is, how

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can I assist you? Thank you for
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connecting. How can I assist you
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Janice Porter: So let's stop
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whether so for me, if I'm
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that conversation on LinkedIn, I
think that's easier than

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starting the conversation in
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where you don't know anybody
because you've got all of their

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stuff in front of you. Yeah,
right. So if you do your

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homework and you look for a
point of commonality, whether

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it's the weather, where they
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went to, it doesn't matter. It's
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the rapport building. To me,
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probably, when you're an
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anxiety things that come into
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it's not so easy, I suppose.
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anxiety, that's the confidence
level confidence is which kicks

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off the anxiety to for certain
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comfortable where they are, so
getting the confidence to step

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outside of where they are is
what the next step is, and

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that's about Understanding that
you have to stand up in your

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business. If you're on LinkedIn,
we'll deal with LinkedIn. If

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you're on LinkedIn, you're there
because it's business to

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business. Yep, you're there
because you've got a business,

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you've got a book, you've got a
message, you've got something

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that you want to connect with
people, right? Otherwise, why

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are you there? You

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Janice Porter: want business.
That's, yeah, you want business.

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That's really the bottom line,
right? But you don't always know

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how to go about it the right
way. That's all

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Trish Springsteen: and and I can
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had to teach myself. I thought,
you know, just put everything up

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so it'll come to me.

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Janice Porter: Yeah, no. So
going into that face to face

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networking event, let's just
talk about that again in the

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sense that, okay, you don't know
what you're going to say to

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people and and if you have to
start the conversation, and I

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love that you said that you
think of a question. But the

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question that I like to ask, if
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with, if I'm going to start the
conversation, there is, you

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know, what brought you here? You
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little less challenging for
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here? You know, like I came, I
don't know anybody, but I'm so

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glad to meet you. But you know,
so on, and then ease into you

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know, so you know, what do you
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thing. But I always find it
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the the nervous people are the
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when you answer the when you ask
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Because really, that's not the
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It's only for the, you know, the
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Trish Springsteen: so relieved
that someone asks them something

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that they'll just dump your
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they're extroverts, because
extroverts will share

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everything. They're extroverts
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because just because you're an
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you're full of confidence. No,
that's true. You're an introvert

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doesn't mean to say you don't
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for sure, it's just your
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Janice Porter: It's your energy,
what? Right? Okay, it's just

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your energy. And

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Trish Springsteen: when you an
introvert, your energy comes

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from not being around people.
You comes from being quiet and

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silent and doing all the things
that you like to do so you work

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on on, knowing that you know
where your levels are, and you

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know that if you do start to get
overwhelmed, you can just step

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back a bit, right, and just take
that deep breath. Um, extroverts

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just overwhelm people because
they're so excited to be where

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they are, and their energy comes
from all the people around them

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that they can be so overwhelming
that their problem is they don't

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listen, they don't actually make
a connection, because they're so

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busy giving everybody. Let's

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Janice Porter: not generalize.
Let's not generalize.

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Trish Springsteen: I'm not
saying what you're saying. Yes,

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that's that's a trap that a lot
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they need to harness that and
focus and learn to listen to

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people as well. It's a two way.
Conversation is a two way,

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Janice Porter: exactly. So you
talk about being a mentor and

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being a coach as well as being a
speaker and an author. Okay, you

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do all of these things, amazing.
Um, do you is the mentoring like

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a labor of love, or is or like,
how do you see that in terms of

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coaching versus mentoring,
versus, say, training? Because

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people use them in different
ways, and I know how I think of

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Trish Springsteen: So it's a
conversation that you can sit

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and talk with someone for hours
about what the definition of a

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coach is, what the definition of
a mentor is, what the definition

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of a trainer is, and really it's
none of this. You've got those

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dictionary definitions which
really don't apply, because

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we're all individuals. We're all
unique, and we bring our own

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different life experiences to
each of those little segments.

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So while there's an overall
concept that a coach is about

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teaching people and and giving
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to change, and a mentor is about
supporting and helping them to

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take that and include it and go
on, which is sort of my sort of

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definition. And a trainer is
someone who sits there and wants

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to change palm Hall's attitude,
but in a workshop, more

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environment, which is Okay,
interesting. My my sort of

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definitions, I always, from my
perspective, think I'm a blend

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of a mentor and a coach, okay,
because I might start coaching

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someone my public speaking
skills, yeah, just giving them

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change, giving them information,
giving them techniques and

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strategies to be able to and
then what often more does is

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that more into mentoring. And
mentoring is my passion. It's,

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it's, I guess you could say it's
my love, because, from my

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perspective, a mentor, a mentor
pushes you outside your comfort

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zone. A mentor challenges you,
asks the difficult questions,

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holds a mirror up for you to see
yourself, and then is there to

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catch you if you fall, and
provide a support to say that's

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okay, try something different
and push you up to fly again.

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That's my personal concept of a
mentor. So when I'm coaching,

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I'm giving strategies, I'm
giving techniques on a

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particular skill way. And then
when I'm mentoring, I'm looking

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at the whole person and how
their business goes, how they

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react, their mindset, their
thoughts, their their courage,

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their belief in themselves, how
they see whether they're unique,

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and I'm providing that support.
I don't always give answers when

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I'm mentoring, right? I ask
questions. Okay? I push the

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questions for them to look deep
to find where they're going, and

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I listen when I'm training in a
workshop, I'm in front of people

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online or offline. And I'm again
giving skills training, but I've

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only got a short time with them,
so I'm training to change their

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something, from their what
they're doing now, to there, and

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making sure that within that
short time I have they've got

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something that's changed their
thought processes or change

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their skills. It's a short time.
And I guess, from my

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perspective, that's my precious
definitions of coach, mentor and

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training. Okay,

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Janice Porter: okay, that's
awesome. So what are you working

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on right now? I think you've got
a program coming up that sounds

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interesting. You told me a
little bit before we went on

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air.

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Trish Springsteen: Yes, what I'm
working on now, because my two

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favor my favorite sayings. I'll
just share those, because it

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came out of this. It's my
favorite sayings. I believe in

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you until you believe in
yourself. Because I think people

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and that comes, I guess, from
mentoring and that they need

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someone there to believe in them
until they can take that belief

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and have it internal. I also
believe my other saying is, get

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known, be seen, which comes with
being the unicorn in your

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business. You you. It's no good
having your book. It's no good

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having a service, a message, a
business that's the best damn

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thing, or a product. If people
can't find you, right? If people

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don't know that's who you are.
So I'm help people to get known

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and be seen. And along with
that, is repurpose and leverage,

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and my 60 seconds of insane
courage, all of those together,

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is about getting outside
yourself and being known and

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being seen. Now when I talk
about getting and be seen, it

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could be writing a book. It
could be writing a chapter in a

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book. It could be blogging. It
could be doing videos. There's a

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whole range of things that you
can do to be an RBC, but from my

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perspective and my journey, I
believe wholeheartedly that

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underpinning every one of those
things are good speaking and

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communication skills, if you can
speak, and if you can do

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communication and communicate
well, you've got a solid

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foundation to build all the rest
on. And speaking is one

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absolutely fantastic way of
being known being seen, because

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it's one that you should be
addressing and enhancing your

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skills in from the time that you
decide that you want to Well, my

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view is, from the time that you
leave high school, even before

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high school, before that in
school, you should be learning

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speaking skills. Because no
matter what you do, whether you

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go to a business, whether you
are going to work in an

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organization, you need to be
spoke, be able to speak, to

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share who you are, to sell
yourself, interview. That's what

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you're doing. Right in a
business, you need to showcase

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so part of that in a business is
what we call putting together a

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keynote speech. Now it's
probably a word that's got

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00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,560
different meanings different
people. If you're going to be

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speaking in a big conference, a
keynote is usually the one that

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00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,320
opens or closes, right? I think
it's a big motivational type

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00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,160
speech in in the perspective of
your business. My sort of thing

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saying a keynote is your your
fallback speech that you can

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pull out and say, This is what I
do, or this is how I inspire

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00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,260
people, or sharing something
that is about you and about your

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00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:24,680
business that you can pull out
and share whether you're going

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to be speaking anywhere. You can
say, that's my, well, I guess my

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keynote, that's my, my my
showcase speech, that's that's

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what I fall back on if I need to
do anything. So what I wanted to

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do was to bring all of those
together. So I've got a I

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launched a speaker package this
year. It's called a speaker

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package, and what it does I
spend three sessions with you

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00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:53,080
online, helping you to craft
that signature speech, that

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00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,260
keynote speech, your signature
speech, helping you to craft

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00:33:56,260 --> 00:33:59,980
that then what part of the
package is that, then we turn

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00:33:59,980 --> 00:34:04,380
that signature speech into a
chapter into my next volume of

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00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:07,920
get none be seen compilation.
Nice. So now you've hit two

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parts. You've now got a
signature speech that you can

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00:34:10,740 --> 00:34:13,680
comfortably get up and share
whatever time you want. You can

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00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:17,340
expand or contract that, right?
You now become an author, which

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means you're now being seen in a
different medium. Yeah, I also

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then offer you a interview in my
magazine. See now you're being

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00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,580
seen again in a different
medium, and an interview on my

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00:34:28,580 --> 00:34:32,060
get none be seen web TV. You've
now got about four different

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ways of being known, being seen.
Then that's that basic package.

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If you want to pay an upgrade, a
little bit extra in the end of

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00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,200
this year for those who are in
around my area, or for because

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it's global, it's online or
offline, there's two options for

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those online, who are watching,
who'd like to join. I will hold

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a summit at the end of the year
where you get to present your

534
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,140
signature keynote speech. It
will be video. It. You now

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00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:04,020
presenting it, and we'll put it
out there to you know, you can

536
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:06,900
invite the people along to that
summit. You've got other people

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00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,380
who on that summit. You've now
got another way that you've been

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00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:14,400
seen. And the video of that
speech, you get to use whatever

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00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:18,420
for those who are local, we are
holding it in on in a room, on

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00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,380
stage, and I've got a
videographer doing that. So

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that's my speaker package, which
I put together because it, I

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00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,420
guess, brings together my all my
favorite 60 seconds of insane

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courage to step outside what
you're doing. I'm believing in

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you so that you can do it and
get no BC, so that you get out

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there and repurposing and
leveraging, showing you how you

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00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:44,560
can repurpose and leverage one
piece of thing into another,

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00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,160
your signature speech into a
chapter in a book, and you're

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now getting out there being
seen.

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Janice Porter: Love it. And I
can tell you love what you do,

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so I'm sure that it will get
filled and be a big success. So

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I love it. That's great. Okay,
before we wrap up, I want to ask

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you one last question that I
like to sometimes ask my guests,

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and this is about my favorite
word, curiosity. So I would like

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to know your thoughts on whether
you think curiosity is innate or

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learned, and what you are most
curious about these days. Love

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that

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Trish Springsteen: you can take
it both ways. I'm I'm one of

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those Devil's advocates, but I
think for most people, Curiosity

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00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:45,280
is innate, okay, however, I also
think it's learned, because you

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00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,420
may have that impulse to be
curious about something, but

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unless you have the courage the
self belief, it may not go

562
00:36:55,240 --> 00:37:00,220
anywhere. So I think while we
have the seeds of curiosity

563
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inside us. Sometimes we have to
have the external influence to

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help us learn. It's okay to be
curious. It's okay to take step

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00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,280
outside and take that curiosity
and find out where it will take

566
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you. And unfortunately, from my
perspective, too many people let

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00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,580
that curiosity see die inside
them, because they haven't got

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00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:28,940
that courage to go and see okay,
I'd like to know more about

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that. Let's go and find out. So
I think it's a combination of

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both, Okay,

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Janice Porter: fair enough. And
what are you most curious about

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these days?

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Trish Springsteen: What am I
most curious about I'm I'm

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00:37:45,459 --> 00:37:51,519
curious about living. I'm
curious about the opportunities

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00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:59,379
that come that I can reach out
and be be more part of life. I'm

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00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:01,859
curious to see whether I can
actually finish this book I've

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00:38:01,859 --> 00:38:06,059
been writing for the last four
years. Okay, and I've managed to

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00:38:06,059 --> 00:38:10,019
go over roadblock of that. I'm
curious about the people that

579
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I'm going to meet, and where
will that take me. I'm curious

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00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:21,199
about, Shall I book this trip to
China next year or not? Who have

581
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:25,279
my bucket list on that Eclipse,
the Terracotta Warriors and the

582
00:38:25,279 --> 00:38:29,479
Great Portland casting,
fantastic. So I'm just curious

583
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to see where my life will take
me. I have so much more living

584
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to do.

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It's,

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it's just curiosity about what's
what's out there, what's the

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00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:41,799
world love? What's

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Janice Porter: next for you?
Well, that's great. Thank you.

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Thank you so much for that. And
one last, one last little thing,

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your favorite or best piece of
advice for my audience,

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00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Trish Springsteen: I guess my
best piece of advice is my 60

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seconds of insane coverage. It's
20 seconds to acknowledge that

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,980
there's a negative voice saying,
I can't do this. Don't be

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00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:16,920
curious. I can't step up 20
seconds to say, Stop. I can do

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00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,460
this. Bring the positives back
in. I can be curious, and I can

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00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:27,260
accept and I can explore. I can
speak, I can go out, and then 20

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00:39:27,260 --> 00:39:33,680
seconds to smile and just smile
and say yes to any opportunity

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that comes, and live your life
to the fullest. Fantastic.

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Janice Porter: I love it. And of
course, it made me smile. I love

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that. Thank you. Thank you for
that and for for your wisdom. I

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will put in the show notes how
people can get hold of you. I'm

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00:39:50,140 --> 00:39:55,660
assuming it's your website. Yes.
Trish springsteen.com, yep.

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Okay, and anything else you
might want me to put on there

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and to my. Audience, as usual,
thank you for being here. I

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00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,160
appreciate you, and remember to
stay connected and be

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remembered. Bye, bye.